I finally temporarily parked my 1989 GT Karakorum K2 and got a new to me Devinci Django full suspension. I have never had any suspension so all these videos are very helpful as I have to learn all over again.
My 2020 orbea Occam got a lot of loving over the winter. All new pivot bearings, new pedal bearings, new BB, new headset, full shock and fork service, new shock bushings, derailleur overhaul, new pulley wheels, new chain, brake bleed, new cables. She's ready for another year of getting thrashed.
Great 👍 video Neil , covering all bases ! I think on the coil section for sag measurement of 30% of 210mm is 63mm not 15mm as stated & may confuse some people 🤔 Will definitely save this video for future reference! Cheers 🍻
Use the bottom out bumper on a coil shock, essentially same as using the oring of an air shock Another thing no matter what the "industry" tells you coil suspension was and it's superior still to air
I use lockers quite often to be fair. For example if I go and do asphalt run then I lock out my suspension so that way it is as stiff as possible and the speed doesn't get suck into the softness of the ride
Thanks Neil, loved the vid, and found the footage especially picturesque! Wondering: Do you set forks on a hard tail the same way as the forks on full sus, or do you aim for something a bit different with the sag and rebound? Cheers.
Would there be any bias in terms of sag (front and rear) for a newer rider with less skill, whilst they are slightly over-biked and not yet using it to it's full potential? So would 27% be better than 30% for a newer rider? Or would it the same regardless if newbie or pro?
Hi Stewart! No particularly. Running more sag will make the bike feel slower and more energy sapping. Having the correct amount of sag for your weight is the best policy to make the bike feel more alive. You can always play with compression and rebound afterwards to get the most comfortable setup for you. We hope this helps! 👍
You service you're suspension yearly rather than the hourly recommended intervals??? You are a mountain bike content provider and probably hit the hourly service recommendation 3-4 times per year or more potentially.
Love the bike design czcams.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L and functionality. It is hard to align the front tired to center the disk brakes. The brake wheel touches the stationery side of the brake caliper and pad. I aired the tire up to 40 psi as the markings say 40-60psi. Left the house for a few hours and came back to an exploded innertube.All in all it seems to be a good bike. Have not ridden it yet though so that's the max of my knowledge. Update, put a new innertube made sure the tire was set properly and it did the same thing in under 20 minutes as second pic shows.
Neil I dont think you were very clear when you mentioned service intervals for our suspension. You SHOULD NOT wait a whole year to service your fork lowers and shock's air can. Those should be done every 3-4 months if you ride every weekend or try to anyways. Im sure Neil was talking servicing the damper and replacing seals. Granted if hes talking to a demographic who only rides once a month then they could prob get away with once a year but still that's hard on your components. On another tip; Another way, that DOES NOT involve having to let all the air out of your shock, to check to see if your full squish bike's 12 speed chain is at the right length is to shift to your hardest gear and check to see if your chain runs directly below the derailleurs knuckle/clutch (part which has the pulleys) and not above it or sagging down to far below. It should be right up under it where you can visually see it. Hope that makes sense. Cheers
How often do you tune & adjust your suspension settings? 👇
Hi.Thats funny.More time spending thinking about rear shock and adjusting.
Oui.Wait a minute.
So lucky riding a Hardtail😁😁😁
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@@DerBreacher hi bro😀👍
When I see a YT video reminding me that I need to adjust my sus😅
@@davidgeiger8620 hi
🙏Suspension work is one of the trickiest mechanic areas for me, so I really appreciate this video.
Glad it was helpful! It's crazy how many different things there are to learn about suspension!
Thanks for the wee refresher course in MTB suspension Neil 👍👍
No problem! We're stoked you found this useful! 👍
Neil another Master Class always enjoy your vids Cheers again mate, 🇦🇺
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching! 🤘
I finally temporarily parked my 1989 GT Karakorum K2 and got a new to me Devinci Django full suspension. I have never had any suspension so all these videos are very helpful as I have to learn all over again.
My 2020 orbea Occam got a lot of loving over the winter. All new pivot bearings, new pedal bearings, new BB, new headset, full shock and fork service, new shock bushings, derailleur overhaul, new pulley wheels, new chain, brake bleed, new cables. She's ready for another year of getting thrashed.
been waiting for this video for a long time
Great video 😃 I set it to weight once and that's it 😎 and check from time to time if it is still good .
Thanks for watching, Anita! Yeah, you don't need to check suspension pressure too often! 👍
Great video! I'm planning on getting my Mega out this weekend and needed the refresher course. Also, its good to see the Nukeproof out and about!!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Great 👍 video Neil , covering all bases ! I think on the coil section for sag measurement of 30% of 210mm is 63mm not 15mm as stated & may confuse some people 🤔
Will definitely save this video for future reference! Cheers 🍻
Use the bottom out bumper on a coil shock, essentially same as using the oring of an air shock
Another thing no matter what the "industry" tells you coil suspension was and it's superior still to air
I use lockers quite often to be fair. For example if I go and do asphalt run then I lock out my suspension so that way it is as stiff as possible and the speed doesn't get suck into the softness of the ride
So good
I like stuffer suspension
I found I listen too u set sag so use air for sag dial in feeling with damper amazing what a few clicks can do
The part on the forks was forking brilliant 😂
Thanks Neil, loved the vid, and found the footage especially picturesque!
Wondering: Do you set forks on a hard tail the same way as the forks on full sus, or do you aim for something a bit different with the sag and rebound? Cheers.
When setting the sag do I turn the rebound knob to the rabbit or the turtle?
Rabbit and compression on minimum too.
Thanks!
What @krzysiu4003 said!
Would there be any bias in terms of sag (front and rear) for a newer rider with less skill, whilst they are slightly over-biked and not yet using it to it's full potential? So would 27% be better than 30% for a newer rider? Or would it the same regardless if newbie or pro?
Hi Stewart! No particularly. Running more sag will make the bike feel slower and more energy sapping. Having the correct amount of sag for your weight is the best policy to make the bike feel more alive. You can always play with compression and rebound afterwards to get the most comfortable setup for you. We hope this helps! 👍
May I ask what rear mud gaurd do you use? I like the sporty look of it.
Should you completely wind out the compression damping before setting the sag?
Yes compression and rebound should be fully open.
Yeah, everything should be open! 👍
4years now and my bearings are perfect 😅
Hey, I need help i have a son thats 36kg and dont get the right sag is there somthing that can help lower the air presure. Pls someone respond.
In what world would you ever bottom out your shock in the biggest gear… haha usually to be doing that your at the other end of you gear range.
You service you're suspension yearly rather than the hourly recommended intervals??? You are a mountain bike content provider and probably hit the hourly service recommendation 3-4 times per year or more potentially.
well you did say ask questions so can i have a bike ?
Love the bike design czcams.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L and functionality. It is hard to align the front tired to center the disk brakes. The brake wheel touches the stationery side of the brake caliper and pad. I aired the tire up to 40 psi as the markings say 40-60psi. Left the house for a few hours and came back to an exploded innertube.All in all it seems to be a good bike. Have not ridden it yet though so that's the max of my knowledge. Update, put a new innertube made sure the tire was set properly and it did the same thing in under 20 minutes as second pic shows.
Before setting sag, should the dials be set to open or closed or does that matter at all?
It does matter. Keep them open.
Open, it matters, a lot, should have been mentioned !
Yeah, keep your suspension completely open. 👍
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Neil I dont think you were very clear when you mentioned service intervals for our suspension. You SHOULD NOT wait a whole year to service your fork lowers and shock's air can. Those should be done every 3-4 months if you ride every weekend or try to anyways. Im sure Neil was talking servicing the damper and replacing seals. Granted if hes talking to a demographic who only rides once a month then they could prob get away with once a year but still that's hard on your components.
On another tip; Another way, that DOES NOT involve having to let all the air out of your shock, to check to see if your full squish bike's 12 speed chain is at the right length is to shift to your hardest gear and check to see if your chain runs directly below the derailleurs knuckle/clutch (part which has the pulleys) and not above it or sagging down to far below. It should be right up under it where you can visually see it. Hope that makes sense. Cheers
I have no idea what you're talking about. Shock? SAG? Huh??
Or you could just run no suspension…
True! 😂😂
I believe full suspension is crap always rode hardtail. Like if you agree dislike if not.
No