How To Place An SM57 For METAL TONES, and Why It's So Important!
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Also remember to record each speaker in the cab, they will all sound different, one will sound better than the other 3 .
I’m glad you did the back to back recap at the end, that made the differences a lot easier to hear. Having too much space between examples gives the ears too much time to reset to “normal” so to speak
I am not making a butthole sign...spit my coffee out...lmao! 🤣
Best line ever! Thanks for clarifying, Kyle!😂🤘🏻
I'm always hitting the LIKE button on your videos, cause I know it's gonna be always awesome!
"Oops, I bumped the mic." Bruh, why you keel me.
Great points, bro, and solid examples.
This is incredibly useful. I'm ending up with really bad phasing on my recording and basically ending up like it's comb filtered, EQ looks like a complete mess, but I was going with the advice of angled and off center. I had forgotten about direct and on border of speaker cap.
Thanks for the video
Shame this hasn't gottem more views. This is some high tier shit
For some reason I’m always partial to the off axis on the dust cap around 20 or 30 degrees and I also like the little dashes on the cone. Depending on how bass heavy a cab is I tune that with distance from the speaker. I have a Krank cab that’s hella bass heavy so I pull the mic back about an inch and it cleans the bass up significantly. It’s a great sounding cab in the room.
Great video, Kyle. I've learned that getting most thigs, if not all of them, right at the source will always yield better final results and less fixing in the mix. Thanks for sharing. I'd love to see a video where you dial in some tones for specific genres of metal 😎. Cheers!
I don't know how I missed this video. Great demonstration!
This is the vid I've been wanting for months! Thank you!
EDIT: Oh wow, the comparison on distance is super useful! No other "mic placement" vids out there ever seem to cover that to any real degree of detail beyond "here's right on the grille cloth, here's five feet away", and I'm shocked at how much one inch makes here! A lot of the stuff I've been trying to change by going off-axis could be *much* better changed by just staying on-axis and going about a half-an-inch back from the speaker. Thank you SO MUCH for this vid, this is going to be super-helpful for me!
DOUBLE EDIT: Re: you asking whether more "how to" vids like this would be appreciated, YES! Gear reviews are cool, but things like this are far more useful to someone who generally have stuff that they like and want to get the most out of it.
Off axis on egde of cap/cone seems to work nicely, on axis can get kinda harsh (amp depending ofc).
And great video btw!
I see you're using that Invective again! Not too bad, is it? Great vid. You can get a world of sounds by moving a mic an inch at a time!
should a done a looper pedal. great demo
Very informative but I had to laugh at the "I'm not making a butthole" hahahha. Thanks dude
Great video! How about a video demonstrating how to swap out speakers?
I'm sure I could do something like that!
Very clear examples, thanks!
What about the two upper v30s (cabs in general), no good fom metal tones generally?
Mic pre input level? -6db, -12db?
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Quick summary: Butthole, placement, pull out, movement, coming through, up, side, down, center, proper angle, back up, up close, see what you like best.
Seriously though this is a great vid, simple and concise examples of mic placement.
I prefer to place an SM57 halfway between cap edge and surround. Although a lot of people use the cap edge placement as their go-to, and get great tones, I have never been able to replicate the technique without getting a sharp, fizzy sound as a result. For me, moving the mic away from the cap leads to consistently useable tones. I also think that since the sound of what we hear and like in the room is created by the speaker massaging the guitar signal, it makes more sense to mic the cone, which is responsible for that unique sound we enjoy.
Find that spot, she'll let ya know 🤘
How loud do you get the amp when you record like this? Is the volume house shaking ? Or just loud practicing level? Have some 100w heads and the Volume and Master Volumes are on like 1-2 when I practice. Wondering if I need to go the enclosure route or just give up and go the Two Notes Captor route with IRs.
What mic stand is he using?
Ya know I’ve been following this channel since it was a little baby and I gotta say, I am far from tired of knowing you use an sm57. The consistency is very appropriated. I know what a 57 on a v30 sounds like so every time you showcase something else, I’m getting a very good idea all around how that piece of gear sounds and will react with my gear as I use the same stuff.
Kyle, Not for the channel but for you to check out if you haven’t already. Try the Friedman technique. I purchased the official mic clip, and dude let me tell ya. It sounds MASSIVE and it sits strait in the mix every time! Just a suggestion for you to check out with one of your bands if the opportunity ever arises.
Thanks for the awesome content!
Put your comment in my first viewer's comments video! Thanks man! Also, Yes I have a Fredman clip! I like single sm57 better but the Fredman def has it's place, and you're right, very mix friendly
@@belligerentamateur bro you’re the best! It’s nice to know I watch someone as nerdy as I am about this stuff. I mean, how many other people gonna walk around with the Friedman clip in their back pocket? Lolol not literally of course. Rock on man! Keep the solid content coming!
Be like Mike
Great video, as always! At the end you mention that you always use the bottom right speaker. Is there a specific reason for that? I recently saw a video of Kohle, who explained that he mics the upper speakers of a slanted cab, it had something to do with the waves inside the cabinet. I wonder what is your opinion on that.
Thanks!
You really need to test each speaker in a cab and find which one sounds best. One usually does!
When I try to put the SM57 closer than 5 inches away from the grill, it's too bassy and muffled sounding. My amp is set as this: gain 5, bass 5, middle 6, treble 6. I'm using an MG30gfx. I'm not sure why when everybody else mics like that it's sounds good, but when I do it, it's over-the-top with the low end.
it's something about your setup that is not working properly then. I'm not sure if you have more than one sm57 but trying another one would be a good start, also if your miking a combo then things will be different because the speaker is going to react totally differently then in a sealed back cab
@@belligerentamateur Thanks for the quick reply. I don't have another SM57. But my dad let me borrow his MD46 Sennheiser, and that sounds more like it should sound at about an inch away from the grill. I'm using a U-Phoria UMC202HD, I've also tried a Tascam 1x2hr, and both have the same result. I'm also using Audacity to record. For the mic cable I'm using a monster classic. My guitar is a Dean MLXL equipped with 81/85 EMGs. I've noticed using an overdrive pedal makes the problem worse.
Not if you use ax ex . Lol just kidding I’d never lol
HEy. Monitors. Too close to the wall :)
Considering they have dip switches on the back of them to account for proximity to other objects that were designed for exactly my situation, I'd say they're okay 😎
Well..... guess my ears are totally fucked....
Because I couldn't tell the difference...
I went to band practice today and I guess I'm going to have to start wearing ear plugs...
Im the 69th like on this vid. Nice
Do you go straight into a DAW or there is a preamp?
you need an interface which has built in preamps, but other than that, straight in
@@belligerentamateur I have an m-audio mobile pre would that work?