Best Microphones for Metal Guitar
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Testing out a couple of microphones for recording Metal Guitar.
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Signal chain :
Washburn Solar 16ETC - Randall Satan - HESU 2x12 - Microphone
3:09 sm57
3:33 sm58
3:58 sennheiser e906
4:28 Neumann TLM193
4:58 Ehrlund ehr-e
5:24 TSM MT84
5:47 Beyerdynamic M160
SM58 and M160 sounds best. I am surprised that SM58 did better job than SM57!
Same mic capsule Im sure. One has a ball on top for a windscreen screen and grill so the mic element is further back. Unscrew it and you'll see...
The 57 goes down to 40hz vs. The 58's 50hz. 58 also has mid bump for voice.
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@@KevOppelt yeah , we used to take the screen off the 58 and call it a 57 way back yester year....just goes to show its not always as it seems as they sound alot different even though it is subtle.
I appreciate you including that detail about the Neumann 193 being used to record Chaosphere.
But.. What about all of them at once!? Ultimate metalness....
Could you maka a second part of this video, showing these differences in the mix?
Shure SM58 on guitar cabs sounds amazing! Removing the grill from the mic gives you the chance to place the mic even better facing the cabinet imo. Great test Ola!
IMO the grill is great, this way you'll back up the mic just enough to get rid of proximity effect.
Santo Clemenzi Literally, the only difference between an sm58 and and sm57 is that grill.
Looking at the frequency response I guess they have slightly different character, not so much anyway, I agree with you that they sound quite similar. To me the SM58 sounded better, I always reamp with SM58 and I'm very happy with it. SM57 sounds great too of course!
SM57 sounds better live, more clear
Definitely. That grill is going to effect the sound. Rules of thumb is; always trust your ears.
I'll have to give an sm58 a try. I've always just used 57's.
This Royer knock-off was pretty good. Probably a good idea to blend it with a 57.
I wish you had a 421 in this test as well. Great video!
Thank you alot for taking your time to do a QUALITY review of the most common microphones!
In general I belieave that most people ignore to try record with an SM58 only because of the fact that
"it is a microphone designed for vocalists"
I was actually aware of that the SM58 sounded good on guitars before,
but never really used it. But because of this video I might try it out more
when bands comming to my studio. It really felt like the midrange was much
more present compared to the SM57 ( wich is important if you want a thick sound in the mix ).
Once again, thank you Ola for this video & keep them comming!
// Cheers from Finland
Great video! Speaker shoot out next? V30, G12t-75, Both creambacks and the k-100's! maybe celestion could even send them to ya!
In my opinion a good option is a mix between tge SM57 and TLM. The best of both worlds.
Use both with a stack sounds like a good idea I guess.
glad to find a fellow SM58 fan.i thought I was the only one in the whole wide world using a 58 to record amp's,so happy that u agree that it's great for electric guitars :)
from my own research especially with the shures. the 58 is an old school mic rugged and indestructible. the 57 is similar but more used because of its more clarity. also since micing amps is more so popular at gigs you need a mic thats going to last. Ribbons etc wont last the road. so 57 are so popular. they just work.there is also a seinheisser e-367 something i forgot which really stacks up and has an even clearer tone. but a great view of them all and their dynamics. Im glad our golden ears say similar on these products. interesting.
SM58 (1st) and the M160 (2nd) hands down. I thought the Ehrland caught way too much room. Cool video.
If i can't use post EQ, definitely choose the E906.
Sounds more "ready" than any other.
But the SM57, SM58 and the M160 its very cool too!
8 years later and still my go to for a reminder of mic tones when I'm considering dropping stupid money on mics 🤘
As far as I know, the SM58 has a peak in the 3kHZ area for vocal clarity, that's why you perceive more mids on it, thus, more clarity (compared to SM57).
Cheers.
Everyone knows the best mic/setup for recording guitar is a Fisher Price cassette recorder, placed inside of a trash can, out in the cold, bitter, soul crushing darkness of the Norwegian forests at exactly midnight... in the name of Santa Clause. Come on Ola, get with it man!
I use an SM58 and I'm very happy with the results.
I'll have to agree with you, I was changing strings whilst listening to you, and my head snapped around when you played the beyerdynamic. So unexpected.
Another great video Ola! Interesting to hear the SM57 and SM58 back to back. I've always thought of the SM58 primarily as a vocal mic but goes to show it's extremely versatile...Loving the channel, keep it up.
the beyer m160 and the SM58 sounded the best to me
same here bro!
Same!
wonder what it would sound like with both
For my ears, it sounds like if you were to mix the SM58 and the Ehrlund, you could get a really mean tone that has the cut in a mix you want, but with a good low response that isn't too bassy. Great vid, Ola
I got an m160 a few months backs and love it. I put it about a foot away to let it breathe and let the low end bloom and I blend it with either a 421 or SM7b. I'm playing more open, doom metal though.
I go with the SM57, because it really captures the sound of the cab in front my face when the speaker is level to my ear. With the a boost around 6Khz-9Khz, it can be easily EQed down to give you more of an honest sound. It wont help if you have bad tones in the room tho. Must have good tone from the source first and let it captures it. My go to position for neutral sound: 4cm away, near cap edge. :)
SM57 for me, the 58 was good also but just a little more flat sounding then the 57, for example to me it sounded like I could hear the pick's articulation when it hits the strings it was more of a pronounced attack, a clearer attack, Precision maybe is the word. they all sounded great though my personal favorite was the SM57. Thanks for another awesome video man! Time to go learn about what this whole reamping thing is all about!
That mic in the video picture. Illuminatiphone. All seeing Mic!
I was actually blown away by how great the Beyer sounded. Unlucky me I live in an apartment so a cab isn't possible for me. -Sadface- I am considering a Torpedo Live however as you recommended in a previous video Ola, och det ska du ha tack för! Keep banging!
SM57 & SM58 were great. The Neumann sounded cool too
m160 the best. But it is so expensive... holy shit
SM58 sounded second best to me
also thought of m160
Definitely the M160. It was similar to the SM57.
The $1300 Royer 121 makes the m160 look like a steal!
Ehrlund microphones are fantastic. Good pick!
I love you Ola. Just that
The 160 is just the best of everything. I just love a ribbon mic the best.
Thanks for the video!! Grabbed a sm58 last week getting ready to use it. This helped me out.
57 & 58 takes the cake for me
I'd like to try mixing the SM57 with the M160, pretty sure that may sound great
Hey a quick tip, try a Sennheiser MD421 15• from the Shure SM57 on axis. ( Position like this |\ )You can record both via Aux Input and then merging into the guitar rec track. Mix it up with the 57 at 0db and the 421 at -4-8db - the 421 is gonna give that chunk that the 57 just doesn’t have. (mind the phase in some cases) It works wonders and it’s a cheap and simple setup.
Great Video! I'm a Shure fan for life!
i would also choose the sm58, sounds really great, it has the high end of the sm57 which is great to cut through the mix but all the other frequencies sound a lot richer than with th sm57
Ola, nice test! For my personal taste, I think that a combination of TSM MT84 and SM57 would be my favorite for metal guitars! I really liked the sound of MT84, what a mic!
Do you know where we can buy the tsm mt82?
ios4ever Dude, I have no ideia! But I think this mic, MT84, is a kind clone of the famous Royer 121, they look very similar as well. The Royer 121 is REALLY expensive, but the people who work with this mic says that they sound like heaven. It's an amazing mic!
It is indeed the clone of the famous r121! Could you please link any info on the TSM? Also, the model is the TSM MT 82 not 84
Any luck tracking down the TSM?
My choice, so far, is I mix a SM57 and an E609. I get the highs and mids where I like them without having to mess with the mix.
how can i get this melody out of my brain now?
Christ, that ehrlund sounds like a jar of angry bees plugged into an HM-2.
Too much high end right ? Goota scoop a lot in 8 - 10 k
Yes,and no body to it,sounds bad.
SM58 wins for me,probably the best would be an SM58 with a good ribbon mic.
start from 8:55 direct compare of the two. So no sm58 doesn't sound good at all.
I think it would work well if it was put more toward the edge of the cone
I'm not worried about mics since I've had an SM58 for awhile, but what I'm really looking for are low to the ground and easily positionable mic stands for when you have a 2x12. Similar to what he might have towards the beginning of the video.
The Electro Voice Raven Blue is also a fantastic mic for guitar amp.
Hi Ola! Between all the microphones you showed I would choose the SM57 and the Neumann; I didn't like so much the Erlund, it sounded to me a bit nasal
I really like SM57. Amazing sound !
EHR-E + SM57
Hi, Ola! I have been really impressed when I heard the sound of your rhythm-guitar track miked with Beyerdynamic M160 - it really sounds well-balanced in terms of frequency distribution and yet crunchy and tight! Beyerdynamic RULES!! Bthw, thanks for your video - it`s really helpful! Waiting to watch another microphone test with other mikes included in that trial!
Great video !! 58 for me as well !! Might be cool to do a video to see what mic pairs work well together !!
A week ago I experimented a little bit with the microphones for a future live show and tried out the sm58 (without a grill). It worked amazing and helped my guitar to find it's place in the mix. Before that I often used a e906, but together with the rest of the band it often was harder to perceive. The great thing about this is that almost every venue we will be playing in the future will probably have this microphone so I don't even have to buy myself one :D
you better be self contained😩 saves the day sometimes. maybe a mic wouldnt be there!
The 57 sounds really great like always.
Excellent comparison!
I really liked the Neumann and the M160. Either of those with the SM58 would sound dope in a mix.
I would have liked to have heard them in a mix as well, personally. It's difficult for me to tell if I'll like the mic tone just by hearing it alone. Just a personal request for next time, Ola!
...this video is gold...
I would go with the shures, and the beyer. Personal favourite is the sm58. :)
Thanks dude, I was just buzzing y-tube for a decent mike for a 7string. I am playing a 7 string with a Helix and a Roland R8 and just want to put a pair of mikes on the stereo outs through a darn good stereo pair of full range 15" PA speaks in a monitor. I was thinking 57s but now I think 58s may be the better choice
I like how after you said the SM58 was the microphone you would recommend, right after on the top right it said "suggested: get SM58 from Amazon."
Metal, I like the Englund mic too! I spelled it like that on purpose because you made that mic your own.
Great video, Ola. Question though. When I record I don't use a microphone, I just run straight into my phones jack on my POD Pro... Am I doing this wrong or should I mic my cab to get a better sound?
My 2 cents in this matter why the SM sound different its because of the heavy use, the capsule inside the microphone wears out. As you listen here they sound bad neither of them, but i will choose the his 58 over the 57.
Would have loved to hear an SM7b in there..
Great job Ola! Shared
Btw, happy birth day!
oh and i would also love to see these microphones compared in the full mix
Interesting that you would choose the SM58. I can hear it in this particular instance.
Anyway, thanks for the vid. Great as always!!!!!
Fantastic video Ola! I've been GASing for an Ehrlund ever since I encountered them in Gothenburg a while ago.
That is a great way to remember where you put the mic when you record. Some tape. I might use some if I ever record with a mic.
I really like the TLM193
I think I like the way the 57 sounds, the 58 also sounds good its hard to decide which one is better.
Sennheiser MD421 is also a very good one!
I want to hear the combinations of the dynamic and condensers!
Senheiser e906 my fav
It would be a cool experiment to take these and pan one mic left another mic right and see what combo really compliments each other in a mix
SM58 for me!
So Antelope, Apogee or Universal Audio?
If you could make a video comparing those would be NUTS
I'll always prefer a 57/58/160 mixed with a mic that reinforces the low end like the condensers.
Good vid! But maybe the same again in a mix so the comparison is closer to the end situation?
Isn't it a bit unfair to compare them without repositioning each mike to what suits it's character best? Condenser & Ribbon mikes tend to work much better with some distance, the E90X work better when not exactly in the center...
What i wanna know is OLA, from YOUR perspective which one sounds most accurately like the sound/color of the amp.. This is a good comparison between eachother but no comparison of the accuracy of the microphone which you'd just have to tell us in your opinion which is the most spot on accurate zero'd on mixer cause all we'll ever hear is a recording.
An Heil PR30 would be interesting in comparison to those. Fluff uses it a lot and Glenn Fricker from Spectre also mentioned it.
I agree that if you can only have one, the 58 seems to be the best followed by the 57
I like the E906, sounds like my 609. Think they're basically the same for the most part.
i love to combine my sm 57 off axis with my e609 at the cone....very little fizz, but still punchy and percussive when palm muting
Classical combination, it always works
Actually, the capsule of the sm58 is identical to the sm57. If you unscrew the popfilter, they would sound identical.
I was hopping to see a mix between a condensor and dynamic.
The ones that sound darker would be great if you have brighter basses or Worthing like that. With low basses if you really want to hear them the ones with less bass will sound better... Well to me anyways. With Audio for anyone the most expensive or really expensive equipment will not always give you the best sound to you.
Wow beyer Dynamic M160 sounded great
3:10 3:34 3:58 4:29 4:58 5:24 5:48
sm85 is good sound! olas amp is brutal!
SM58 for me. But, I'd love to hear it mixed with the Nuemann
Hey Ola! Have you tried some of the cheaper mics such as the SE X1? I have used them for tracking guitar (rhythm and lead) and they sound awesome straight away and even better with some EQ and a compressor! Would love to see a video on something like that!
My favorite would be TSM M84 together with the M160. And my very very favorite combi would be the Royer 121 paired with MD421 ;) ..The TSM is not available anymore, right?
SM57 *USA* and m160. M160 to get the tone you've been working so hard to get in the room and the sm57 USA to get what you need for the mix.
The usa version has the top end that's missing from the Mexican version and much less of the harsh spike of the Chinese version.
With that said, if Shure moved manufacturing back to the USA, I can't say they'd sound as good as the old ones. Production methods, materials due to sourcing and environmental regulations, and staff etc shift over time and when you move... And when machines and/or their parts wear out.
I'm essence, it's like any Shure mic made from 1985 onward is like a clone of the original sm57... Which is a clone of like the 545 or whatever.
wow, surprised at that outcome .. a dynamic mic, especially the SM58 that is so commonly used by vocalists \m/
Would've liked to see a hear a few combinations as well.
Gotta get me a M160, great Video Ola!
Ola i have shure sm57 and sennheiser e609 but, the best for me is a combination of sm57 and the Neumann
Thanks for your work!
Great test! Thanks for making these videos :)
I know bass is not your thing but what about micing up a bass sound. Which mic is best for a good overall bass tone?
Just got a sm57 and scarlet 2i2 today.
Thanks man, great stuff. I really liked the beyerdynamic m160, really full sound. I have an sm57, pretty standard I guess. So ya, really interesting. Thanks again.
uh, thats not a regular 58, its a sm 58 Beta, which uses a neodymium magnet and a hypercardioid pattern. in general it sounds more condenserish than a regular 58.