How to Record Heavy Guitar | SpectreSoundStudios TUTORIAL
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By request: A step by step tutorial on how to record heavy metal guitar. Everything you need to know from equipment, to mic placement, to evaluating each speaker on a 4X12. If you want to mic up a real amp, start here!
Not all bass players are stupid. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to take care of this guy in the mirror who won't stop staring at me.
Now I don't understand.``???
Jajajaja
roast yourself challenge
@@astrog7361 thats called a suicide
SaintSentry
FUCK HIM UP BRO!
That laser pointer joke is probably the best music joke I have ever heard.
I don't get it. Explain plsss
+RanDieBam You play bass, don't you?
+Dan Petrea Yeah, I do. But my main instrument is still the guitar. So what's the point of the joke?
+Dan Petrea holy fuck, that's funny
+RanDieBam Point of the joke is that the bassplayer is dense enough to be entertained by a laser dot sufficiently to not disrupt your attempt to record the guitars. Also the bassplayer is dense enough to need an explanation to this joke. Did you know you can play on the other 5 strings of your guitar as well?
wow it blew my mind how different the speakers on the 4x12 sound
+HECKproductions yeah fuck...i always assumed they sounded the same!
I was like "Dafuq does a laser have to do with recording guitar?!" Good one!
Ah seems we found the bassist
Seems a bassist stole his girlfriend many years ago! 🤣
I paused after Glen told me what I'd need, and I had everything except the duct tape for the laser pointer. I went to the shop - they were closed for renovation. I really needed to get that guitar recorded today, so begrudgingly I drove to the next DIY shop I could think of, and bought a roll there. Car broke down on the way back, so had to wait 45 minutes for the mechanic to show up. He spilled his beer on me, too. Finally though, I got home, unpaused the video - and was just recording my own guitar, without a bassist. Thanks a bunch Fricker.
playingforbritain "Fuck you Glen"
playingforbritain always finish reading or watch the tutorial before starting haha.
the guitarist has become the bassist he once found to be a fool... now yuo see...
I am bassist and I am offended by your WAIT A LASER ? BRB I NEED TO CATCH IT
I just can't help myself it's so beautiful... Wait what is this in my hands... It's like a bass but what are these two extra strings for? I dunno man suddenly, some of the magic from that little red gleam has died
Omg muse!!!
I'm a bassist and I resemble that comment !
Autism is strong with this one a shity bassist you shall become
I fucking lost it at the laser pointer joke
That joke was really bassist.
Devon Angell Ha!
Ha!
lol
Nice name Bro, sounds familiar
I'm not a metal guy, but these tips are amazingly helpful. I love how articulate he is and how he gets right to the point and just demonstrates everything without the video dragging on for 14 minutes.
Hey man, just discovering your vids. Subscribed!
As a bass player though, I really think laser pointers that flash different patterns are the coolest👍
Same tho
Dude. You remind me of my head banger friends who everybody thought they would go nowhere. Now, you guys are the keepers of heavy metal music, and everything that is great, unique, and authentic about it. Really man, keep it up. You are the breath of nostalgic air that every musician/producer needs to breathe at least from time to time.
Rewatching old videos to get tips I missed the first time around. It's great to see how much the channel has evolved over the years. The bass player joke were always total gold though.
2020, several years after this video and when amp sims have come even further, I still prefer the sound of a real amp being recorded.
The tone, feel, and nuances of an amp just can’t be replicated. And perhaps it shouldn’t be replicated.
There is indeed an art to this, and as mentioned, this is how we create our own unique sound....because here we are in 2020 and bands are sounded even more the same.
Yeah, I have an amp sim and it's not as responsive as my real amp.
I'm a bassist and i find your jokes hilarious! I want that Rule #2 shirt!
ben fleming Finally someone with humor... everyone so butthurt when "they are being targeted".
Totally true. I'm SHIT.
But at least I learn my parts.
+puttie30 Yeah but this guy does nothing but trash musicians on his channel. It's kind of hard to laugh, when it feels like it's personal.
Take a fucking joke.
The Bass player distraction method works! Thank you man!
I'm a bassist. And the laser pointer joke had me doubled over! Good tips as always though.
Oh... you're supposed to feed the bass player too? No wonder he hasn't moved in over a week... thought the stench was just due to his lack of showering.
Probably a little bit of both.
Wow! i didn't know each speaker actually sounded different! Thanks for that
I thought you were going to use the laser pointer for accurate sound shaping. I am surprised and laughing, good on you sir.
:)
holy hell that bass bashing joke had me rolling.
Great video! Would love to see more videos along this line with some thoughts on recording techniques
Wow, this is such a great video. I don't play nor record really heavy stuff, but the approach to miking and finding the right sound is transferable across all music that can ever be recorded. Thanks for this, man!
Thank you man. I might be late, but our society grants immortality via the internet and countless ways to record ourselves these days. This is a gift that will give to many generations to come.
It's crazy how much he hams up the character in more recent videos. He just speaks like a normal guy here.
Screaming works. Look at how popular Alex Jones is lol its just a character for views
I was expecting quite excited to see how to use the duct tape and the laser pointer to see how to implement those during the recording, and must say, the actual application of those two MADE MY DAY! Hahaha seriously, I'm a bass player and I laugh my ass off after every single bash on every single video! (just for that sir, you deserve my immediate hit on the "subscribe" button). And to all those haters, dudes, seriously, take a look around, have you see how many kids are picking up a bass nowadays just to be in a band? they don't give a damn about the REAL craft and who's the most pissed off in the business due to this? PRODUCERS! They get to deal with bunch of kids who can't play a single creative bass line without fucking it up in a few takes (I've dealt with some, BELIEVE ME!). And can't say I'm never making fun of drummers whenever I can, so I guess it comes with the profession!
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SpectreSoundStudios
I seriously thought you'd use the laser to find the center of the speaker cone if your room or the stage is poorly lit.
I burst out laughing when i saw your application
I really appreciate you taking the time to make these tutorials on how to record heavy guitar. It's really helped me a lot in my own pre-production at my apartment. Keep up the good work with the videos!
The laser pointer tip alone qualifies this as the best tutorial of any kind ever made, as well as reason enough to subscribe to this channel.
The riff for this demo was tight. I would love to see a once a week or month metal "how to not suck like a bassist" video series. Truly unreal explanation on recording that I am sure everyone dug.
Do you have a video on Compressing Heavy Guitars?? I have an understanding on eq-ing guitars (nothing amazing) but would like a decent understanding on compressing not only rhythm guitars but leads as well
Hey Guitarist6494, love your video man :) !
"In this age of soundalikes, it's great to be unique"
says Glenn as he plugs a (most-likely) EMG-loaded guitar into a Peavey 5150, running THAT into a Mesa V30 cabinet and micing it with an SM57.
I'm just yanking your chain, I undersand that you're the sound engineer and you know what you're talking about. I'm not a huge fan of the modern production style you do, but that's your thing, you do it very well and I highly respect your opinions. I still watch every single video of yours because they provide fantastic insight into everything to do with recording
I think a lot of the ideas in this video are directed for beginners so it's better to give a combination that almost always will sound good that they can grow from
Justin V Allange yea it’s a very good starting point. After you have the fundamentals down you can then experiment
Finding this channel on You-Tube has helped get a better understanding on recording metal music. I have to say, I really enjoy all of your videos on here. This information is golden! I have slowly inched into recording my own guitar parts as I have a lot of riffs and ideas I have developed since I started playing guitar. Although recording my ideas makes it easier for me to remind myself of what I have come up with, I'd like them to sound great and full. I starting using this method to better learn my equipment, but I found myself still not getting that full sound like here. It sounds distant and thin. My signal chain is an ESP EX-401FM (EMG 81/60) or Schecter Hellraiser (EMG 81/89) - Mesa Boogie Mark 5 head - Mesa 4X12 with V30s - SM-57 - Presonus Audiobox USB interface - and Studio One 2 audio software. My theory is my software and interface may be sub-par for what I actually need to get that sound, but I am not sure. You being an experienced metal producer, I'd like to know what your thoughts on this are.
Any information is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
amp sims are good for catching quick ideas but not for the finished song. There is no amp sim which can give you the last pressure we all love to listen to! great video!
Can you say that again? I was busy with the laser... that thing's wild!
:)
I think that the Bass sound is helping this entire mix a lot, too. How did you record the Bass here? Is there a video on that? Either way, thanks! This is GREAT!
I'll be doing a video on bass as well as more advanced Guitar miking.
Thanks!
I do wish more producers and artists would stray away from samples, sims etc. They're tempting to use because on the surface, they sound awesome. But they do leave your music sounding bland, and it takes the life out of it. I have awful equipment so it's so tempting to "cheat" and take the lazy routes but even with poor equipment, I prefer the resulting sound. I'm playong around with micing the amp and currently tightening up on my song, and slowly going in the right direction with the sound. That's thanks to these videos. I always look for one of these videos for help because I don't have to sit and follow a narcissistic 3 hour intro into a tutorial; it's straight to the point with examples and everything. Great job!
its good to hear you're not shouting when you teach. good stuff!
I broke down laughing at the laserpointing part, that took me off guard! Hillarious!
And great tutorial of course! I will be experimenting with recording some guitars this way soon. I've been used to running and recording the guitar through a interface, but it just lacks the power and crunch of the real deal! Keep the videos coming and keep harassing those bassists! ;)
Sure thing! Thanks for watching!
I thought it was going to have something to do with placement of something or other, in case you would have to move gear around and wanted it back in the same exact location. But I was wrong... DEAD wrong!
:)
Hahahah the laser pointer bit had me in tears.
wow! I don't know if this is common knowledge but I was BLOWN AWAY by the difference between each speaker.
My problem is essentially having no budget and being stuck in an apartment with no studio room. I'm a sound engineer by trade, so I have pretty high expectations for my recordings but I essentially can't mic anything up at home. This is why I keep seeing what emulators are out there and if any have improved. I've had some luck going through cheap analog amp mods like the Joyo American, but for heavy tracks its a really difficult venture. I've liked some sounds from an Ibanez Distortion pedal and the Joyo combo, but haven't tried multi-tracking it yet (this also requires pretty aggressive EQ shaping). Thanks for taking the effort to do this, its the kind of thing I know I need to do but just can't with my space right now. Hearing the different cabs and mics and positions, in real time, was priceless!!!
Dam you're good at what you do mate. Loving this channel.
I'm a bassist and I find the jokes hilarious. Great tutorials!
most bassists with talent get the jokes.
As a quick recording tip:
Put the laser on a rotating fan in a corner so 1) the bass player doesnt interfere with the recording and 2) they can at least be active while chasing the laser
"an awesome sounding guitar cab" still holds true up to this day.
I laughed so hard with the laser thing
Laser battery is dead, what do I do about the bassist now?
take the roll of tape and some bassist treats and tape together an old water bottle with holes in it and tape it to the ceiling. he'll jump around trying to get the treats.
+Teldras Moonsong thank you! He's been "playing" his instrument for hours
+Nathan Lawler bassist treats XD XD LMAO
THE KNIGHTS WHO SAY NI! You kill them
I am chewing on the drywall
Bass player here. Had to actually pause the video at the laser pointer joke, I was laughing so hard. Seriously though, awesome video, love these how-to series, please do keep 'em coming!
(and holy mother of duck that final mix sounded massive)
Best guitar amp recording tutorial I've seen. I've used this method for punk, metal, jazz, and country recording, and aside from slight changes to compression and EQ (which is expected as genres and tastes change), this nails it. Seriously well done, Glen.
Oh, and please never stop bashing musicians. Egos have no place in quality music.
The laser pointer joke about the bassist was fucking funny
Awesome video!! Very well laid out. All very basic and useful information. Totally demystifies this subject for me. Never saw your channel before. I have seen you do the "how not to be a dick band" spots on Noisey I believe. Subbed your channel based on this video.
Noisey? Could you please send me a link?
I gotta say - I love the way your mixes sound, but I think what's really making them awesome isn't the guitar sound. You get an absolutely explosive drum sound. Frankly hearing real drums after every metal record these days is Toontrack shittiness is glorious.
This was so helpful!! I’m not a metal player but a punk player and this helped me so much.
Glad I could help, Tristen!
SpectreSoundStudios I’ve been doing it this way since I tested it, and it works marvelously 🙌🏻
My best friend is a bassist and he said he wants a video of the laser pointer.
How did you use the multipressor to clean up the palm mutes on the final mix? Anyone can answer. Thanks!
+Eric Johnson Yes, I also want to know. C'mon guys, share some info!
I love how you mock bass and drum players... That laser... Genius
Dude. Always had trouble getting a decent Metal recording. Watch a few of your videos and I happened to have the Berhinger 802 4 channel mixer. Hooked it up with a 57 and a stageworks tom mic. Threw it all on a shitty crate half stack and got the best tone I've ever recorded. Thank you!!!
It's such an accurate picture of the amps tone, I can throw and rig in there and get the tone I'm hearing live to tape. Thank you thank you!!! Rock on man!
We require more bass player jokes.
lazer part..... hahahaha!!!!
For Rhythm Guitars : A 57 pointed close at the center of a speaker & then a 2nd one some 10 inches away near the edge of the speaker, off axis at about 45 degrees and about 8+ inches away also yeilds decent results when blended together i.e do it for each take and mix the 2 mic recordings together in the same part of the stereo spectrum ( about 70% close mic to 30% far mic seems to be a good ratio ) 2 overall Guitar tracks panned more or less hard left & right in the end tends to work well too ( sometimes a third track as a `thickner`, panned in the center can work well too in a Chorus to lift that part of the song )
Glenn, I want to thank you for this video. I've been playing guitar since I was 10 and recently, following my divorce, had to lose most of my equipment due to financial issues - I've started rebuilding my "arsenal" so to speak and it's great that someone on CZcams is providing honest, real videos about sound and music. (But not the Sound of Music, thank you). Your recommendation of the Peavey Windsor as a budget-priced tube amp was one of the best I've ever received. Thank you. Next time I'm in Windsor, I'll buy you a drink. Keep it up, man. Cheers.
You look a lot like Gabe Newell...
In the final mix, the guitar sounds stereo. How did you do that?
+El Ahui 2 tracks, 2 takes, panned left and right.
+SpectreSoundStudios cant you just copy the first track you recorded and pan it to the opposite direction?
No, because that would give you a center sound, just with more volume
EDIT: made a typo 1 ms -> 10 ms
You could do this, but you need to offset the second track by 10 or more milliseconds, otherwise you'd just get the same sound but with more volume (and no stereo width). Pay close attention to the phase though!
Personally i prefer the sound of multiple takes, although it requires your guitarist to play very tightly, especially when it comes to metal ;)
Awesome!!
that laser pointer bit was awesome.
Dude, I gotta say, your channel is just terrific. Just the right amount of personal preference and objective commentary. Thanks a lot.
I like speaker 1
been messing with it & have been getting good results
SpectreSoundStudios is it normal that they all sound different, i got an box with 2 speakers and a box with 4, the speakers are all blue bulldogs, but they sound different every single of them
That bass player joke... Offensiveness doesn't get better.
I'm a bass player and I just LOVE the laser joke. You are the best men!
My friend and I just laughed ourselves to tears after the laser/bassist-joke!
This is a great tutorial, thanks alot! Your videos are both entertaining and informative -I'm a fan!
:)
That T Shirt looks like an Attack on Titan shirt.
indeed it is.
SpectreSoundStudios Awesome I subbed because of this video but I'd double sub for the shirt!
Looking for those butthurt bassist in one of his videos that's the only reason why i came here
***** bassist probably wont be able to speak words well enough to understand what he says in the videos. Theyll just nob their heads and keep chasin the laser pointer.
But Lemmy will haunt Glenn for eternity.
That laser pointer joke is probably the funniest in-video bass joke I've ever come across
I have had such a hell of a time with amp sims and IR's the last few months... I am so done... I am so sick of my work flow being hindered by digital shortcuts that do not get the job done. I'm 1000% miking my amp for distorted guitar for the rest of my life. If an amp sim can be used to somehow sweeten the amped sound, then so be it... but as I'm learning my DAW interface, my guitar recordings have sounded like absolute tinny shit no matter what I do using plug ins, and I've been stuck recording the same damn song for 2.5 months... so this video is everything I needed to confirm my divorce from direct inject for anything but acoustic guitar and bass.
Thank you.
Good information, as always, but to be honest I'm getting kinda sick of the bass player bashing. I've been playing bass for over ten years, have spend a lot of time learning about sound engineering, and spent A LOT more time practising my instrument so that I can give the best performance possible. As much as I'm grateful for the information you're giving out, I don't appreciate being basically called a moron every time I watch one of your videos, based on the instrument I play. I think it's really childish.
I'm sure you've had lots of bad experiences with bass players, but if you really hate them so much, simply refuse to record them. Then you'll never have to complain ever again! Otherwise, stop bitching about them because the stereotype wasn't funny 20 years ago, and it's not funny now.
I've had many bad experiences with inept, arrogant guitarists, and even more with drummers, but that's just my bad luck. It doesn't mean they're all stupid. Funnily enough, I've also had issues with smug, condescending sound engineers who think they know everything about music just because they own a bunch of gear. Maybe you don't give a shit about my opinion BECAUSE I'm a bass player, in which case I'm wasting my time, but I think it's time someone said something because it's fucking irritating and uncalled for.
lmfao.
Grow up and ignore it. What do you throw a drowning bass player? his amp.
Don't take it so seriously, Alex, he's just making his presentation a bit more light-hearted to keep it from getting too intense with all the technical info. Gotta throw some jokes in there somehow. One of his things is taking the piss out of bassists. Big deal.
PsyMongazoid 'Jokes' are actually funny. Harping on about how stupid bass players are is neither witty nor clever, it's just mindless, boring bashing. You ought take a leaf out of Ryan Bruce's book and just educate people with trying to be a fucking comedian, because the educational part of this is great.
Sid Vicious I fail to see how any of the things you've mentioned would have anything do with me being a 'good' musician. But I guess you're the ultimate authority on how many strings I'm allowed to have, what kind of pickups I use, and how I play my instrument, right?
This is interesting to watch after the recent discussions of trying equipment other than a vintage 30 or sm57
This is the cleanest, to-the-point video explanation for amp mic setup I have ever seen, thank you!
Thanks again mate, your vids are all super helpful to me as a beginner . Getting an sm57 and looking forward to some fun recording
I just tried this technique out and I'm blown away, thanks Fricker!
This is an incredible video for people who want to learn how to record heavy guitars
Thanks!
I only started watching Glenn about a year ago, so hearing him say, “just make sure it’s loaded with a Celestion V30, there are lots of options out there but you just can’t go wrong with a Vintage 30” I was just waiting for the punchline.
Thank you, Thank you and Thank you!!! You have changed my life with this tutorial, I now have tone!! What an amazing difference between amp sims and a real amp. The sim had no life no matter what I did, so I had some time to sit and test different mic positions etc with my dual rec and used two different cabs a fender 4x and Orange 2x. Thank you again .
Thanks Glenn. Great video. I'm learning about audio engineering at school and used some of these techniques in my final project and used your video to explain it to the teacher.
Excellent video and your points are well made. The sims are great, especially when volume is a factor but nothing beats a mic a cab and an amp.
Speaking as a bassist, I'm gonna have to weigh in on that laser pointer joke.
When my old band recorded, they had to put the speaker on a fan to keep it moving. When it was pointed at one spot on the wall I fell asleep and my dribble shorted out the mixing desk. HEALTH AND SAFETY.
man, a refreshing video on guitar sound... i know it's a simple concept, but when every video you see on youtube has an Avid Eleven in it, it's nice to hear the power of a good amp/cab combination, and a nicely placed 57 ;-)
good work bud!
Gosh this dude is hilarious I love his sense of humor and his in depth tutorial this guy rocks
Hey Glenn! Thanks so much for the tutorial. I'm 16 and have a Focusrite 8i6. When i recorded using your method, I couldn't believe the sound i got while recording . thanks man,
thanks for the laser pointer tip for the bass player and the feeding him tip. was wondering why he would just sit there and drool the whole time. haha awesome video!!
I know this is an old video, but one tip I think should be added to this is using a flashlight. It's often difficult to see where exactly you're placing the mic in relation to the speaker through the grill cloth. A flashlight comes in hand in this situation. Put the flashlight against the grill cloth and the light will reflect off the speaker cone.
I went on the Wilkinson Audio site and they sell a bracket that turns a regular 57 into a 57 90! works awesome!
Here’s a question somewhat related to this video. What do you think of all the mini/micro guitar amps that are out these days? Do these smaller amps hold up to their larger and higher wattage counterparts? I’m talking about amps like the EVH 5150 15-watt, the Marshall Mini silver Jubilee 20-watt, the Soldano SLO -30… on and on and on… You get the idea.. These mini amps seems to be crazy popular nowadays and every manufacturer now has a smaller and lower wattage version of their most popular amps. How do these things hold up in the studio? I’ve seen a lot of demo videos on these kind of amps and to my ears they sound great. The most common thing I hear about them (and read in the comments) is that some of them lack bass due to the smaller output transformers. Maybe that’s true but does it even matter in a mix? I’ve seen that you often throw a high-pass filter on guitar tracks to get rid of the mud anyways so should we even care about the super low end that the mini amps might lack? I think this topic could also make for a really cool comparison video with the mini amps vs the full size ones. I’d love to hear what you think. Thanks!
If you are in the Northern Hemisphere, you use the the top left speaker, Southern Hemi, you use the bottom right. Its called the chordiolis effect.
Holy crap! You got me at the laser pointer... I ran into it, thinking it was serious. Spat my food on the screen laughing, thanks!
This guy knows his shit.. Best tutorial on youtube by far
You have to sift through the content on this channel, but sometimes you find something useful like this video.
Wow, I've heard engineers say that they prefer certain speakers out of a cabinet, but what you show here is a huge difference. I can't imagine that mic placement was that different from center to make each speaker sound so distinct. Do speakers really differ that much? They must, according to your test. What you said at 2:40 seems to imply that it's a function of having a dynamic mic, but I don't get why that is.
I think I'm falling in love with this channel.
You wouldn't know! That man has been begging for it from the beginning!
This channel is so savage towards bassists
Glenn you're a rad dude.
That laser pointer thing worked like a charm! Thanks, dude!
If you're going to record a stack at high volume, then you want to capture the sound of the room swelling. Have the guitarist play and move around until you hear the sweet spot, then put down your SM57. If you want a "delay" effect, then put another mic on the speaker. There is no "wrong way" to record. It depends on what you're after. It's an art form.