Orange discontinued their most METAL amp.......until now
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Sending back an amp after capturing its tones is like returning a textbook after you scanned all the pages 😎
I knew a guy who rented VHS tapes from Blockbuster and copied them.
Borrowing CDs from the library and ripping them. My dad pulled off the crime of the century with that shit.
Don't forget the "making a CZcams video with said amp". On one hand, places like GC should revise their return policy, something like, "if you use it in a professional setting to make money, it's yours and all parts & service warranties, are voided etc" and on the other hand, as soon as he returned this, one of the viewers, probably went and snagged it up before it got relisted on the website/put on the sales floor. I can't hate the hustle, you've got to pay for all this gear, somehow, and power chords in E standard, can only take you so far.
Hire Xbox games from the store and save them straight to your modded Xbox then return the game because it didn’t work for something else and repeat. 😂
@@troyfrinkVHS, a simpler time, great horror section
Dude, a couple months ago I saw one of these for sale or trade on craigslist in LA. I asked the guy what he was looking for in trade and he said mostly pedals. Good thing I happened
to have a ton of pedals I didn’t need. I traded him some strymon and chase bliss stuff and came home with the cleanest DD100 you ever saw. The tag was still on it. SCORED. I’m stoked on it
Whoa nice trade bro!
10/10 hell yes
I had the Dual Dark 50 that I actually won from Orange during their Christmas give away back in 2019
Actually, Ade Emsley of Orange amps said that the Dual Dark is actually comprised of a Dark Terror with a 100 Watt power section containing an expanded EQ section for Channel A & a slightly more gained out Channel B, which has the same functionality (3 knobs) of a Dark Terror.
I think the dark terror was loosely based on the rockerverb /thunderverb
@@theallmightyham
Sheeeeeeiiiit, maybe amp building is like Taco Bell:
Use the same basic 6 ingredients to make 30-40 menu items that sorta kinda taste the same!
@@goodgriefitssimon damn, this is good🌮
@@goodgriefitssimon yes it is! The gain structure of the Rockerverb, Dual Dark, Dark Terror and TH30 are similar. EQ sections are slightly different and power amps too...
The price might be a little off, but for someone who cant afford anything these days, living vicariously through gear demos id say it sounds as great as ever.
Bro, before you return the amp, crank the volume on the B channel almost to the max and use the attenuator as your volume control. This way you can get by with far less gain but sound much more aggressive. I've had my Dual Dark for about 6 years and I'm still in love with it today. There is no better amp for me and my music (death and grind).
Got any clips of this I could hear, sir?
@@ogunhe i've uploaded a Video on my channel with the Name: "Dual Dark 50 Orange with KMA Wurm2". In the first half you can hear the channel B as I discribed in my comment. The video was made with my Google Pixel 8pro but I think you get the idea of what I mean with cranked volume und less gain. I hope this helps.
Bands like Slipknot & Killswitch Engage are the new dad rock. If you're old enough to have been around during their rise, you're old enough to be a dad.
ACDC is grandpa rock or even great grandpa at this point.
fact check true. 44 yr old with 19 yr old son .
It sounds slightly heavier and crispier than your other high end hi gain amps.
Kyle, I would sell almost 2/3 of all of your amps and keep the Orange Dual Dark! Also, you better start playing in C standard that’s why Orange amplifiers are good for low tunings. Your E tuning is so basic, your basic Kyle I’m sorry. 🤣🤣🤣 DOOM STONER SLUDGE! Love the channel bro!
C standard is just like e standard to me when I mostly play in drop F to drop D1 😂 Drop A is actually my favorite tuning tho. I hate playing in standard tunings but do have a guitar in E standard for old punk rock and Tool riffs in drop D
@@MetalheadOv666 I would like to try F standard on a 25.25” scale guitar. I had a Les Paul set up for A standard but I was not happy with the tone I think the scale was too short. Idk 🤷♀️
I play drop G with my DD 50 and the amp growls like the Devil. The speakers move so much air that you feel your bones shake.
I owned one and still regret selling it. It was the first tube amp to get that chug of death sound without a pedal in front, and I never did use one. It’s amazing to scoop the mids and get an even more powerful roar. A rarity in most tube amps, and I’ve owned Dual Recs, Marshall Kerry Kings, VHT Pitbull Ultra Leads and 6505+ amps. And the bottom end? I never had an issue, but I also used a Marshall 1960 cab. It does have a certain sound that might not match your needs, especially if you love the 6505+ or VH140C, which I own the Ampeg. But it does brutality in a different but good way, and everyone should experience it at least once.
is the VH140c worth 2 grand? i’m fiending for one but they’ve gotten stupidly expensive, yet i’m not sure if there’s anything quite like it. also hear the power amps fail often and are basically irreparable agree that, which makes it even less logical to blow 2 racks
@@no.mids.brando6458 I found one for $1200, and it’s worth a chance on a good one, but only if you can risk it if you have disposable income. If you really want that ultimate death chug, look for a VH150 for well under a grand. They’re extremely rare, but a lot cheaper. I can’t say to the power amp failures, but mine is still brutally loud and happy to be so. I can say that it’s truly a one of a kind amp that is perfect for getting the ultimate metal sound without any extra pedals, especially when scooping the mids.
I was able to snag one of the Dual Dark White before they sold out!
I sold my Dual Dark 50 back in 2019 to get a Rockerverb. It's an amp that kind of fills a niche that doesn't really exist, imo. Like, there are better amps in that price range that can do metal better than the Dual Dark can, and the lack of useable clean tones make it kind of useless for a versatile modern rock amp like the Rockerverb. It's a great amp but there's just too many trade offs in either direction for me to justify owning one.
That sounds gnarly... 3000 USED is egregious but brand new that seems like a fair price
Why was I just watching your OR30 video and was like, huh when is Kyle gonna check out the dual dark? 😂
It has that 5150 thing in the first sound example that I really love.
One of the best dad rock tones you've produced
Dual Dark. MIND. BLOWN.
This is the LAST Orange amp I have bought and will ever buy.
Dual Dark is as good as it gets & it’s only downhill from here.
Hey Kyle, it’s great to hear you use the amps ability to adjust with just the guitar volume.
To me, that’s the definition of a great amp.
Dude, what?? Its on my bucketlist and its kinda hard to come by for a fair price... Are they re-releasing? Stoked for whatever this is, KB... (Edit: they need to re-release it so its a fair price again. Still glad you got to make a vid on it for the library)
I’m pretty sure that they are reissuing of the white Tolex version. Not sure on pricing though.
Yea they are re releasing it. In white and also black
They released 60 in USA last week they went fast at $1999.00 , cheers Baritone Cult
@@YourCaliBos $2k is not a bad price tbh, i saw used ones recently for closer to $3k
It has that "Need to Be EQd tone" but serviceable
I knew I should not have watched this as I already had GAS before
Dual Dark or 20 speakers ⚖
Ever since I saw footage of the MC5 I wanted a big old Orange amp.
I have this exact amp. Boosted with a Rat style pedal(or just a Rat) on channel A, it is so good. Channel B is too bassy with a Rat style pedal. But with a normal boost cutting the low end, it is also really great and does it's own thing.
I also have a Rockerverb 50 MKII with KT88's, really amazing amp. It seems to do almost everything very well. It was fine with EL34s though, I was just curious.
And I have a have a Thunderverb 50 with the normal EL34's. It is really great for leads. Especially the reverb. The Rockerverb reverb is just quite odd honestly. But the Thunderverb reverb circuit seems completely different.
Have you ever played the Rivera Tre? Mick Thompson from Slipnot played one of those on a rig rundown a few years ago.
God that amp sounds mean...
Definitely ready for this, but also Astro 20... pleeease?
Hardwood floors and canines, amirite?
Thanks. I love your channel and appreciate your input. Personally, I'm looking at getting a Synergy SYN-1 after September ends (Halestorm and P!nk concerts to worry about before then) and want honest amp opinions for potential power amp use later on when I can stop using the Joyo Jackman II for my Synergy power amp section. May not be ideal, but it's what I can work with.
That amp is a keeper. But let’s all hope for more of the same 5150 or Marshall tones.
Wow. The first .5 second of that tone and I was like holy cow. Sounds badass!
Today I was lucky enough to try the new white 100watt version. Its frightening 😮 It felt smooth, bloomy and dynamic on channel A, and tight, heavy and saggy at the same time on channel B. Amazing amp with the onboard attenuator.
Edit: I used a Maxon od808 overdrive, its amazing with Orange amps
For the price, the Uberschall Ultra is a no brainer over the DD-100. Didn’t hear a single tone this amp can do that the Ultra can’t, plus the Ultra has waaaay more options out of the box, especially for extended range players.
That being said, this amp was near the top of my wish list when it was new on the block.
"Dad rock" tones are a great starting point for throwing distortion pedals in front of the amp on low or medium gain and the output cranked as a boost. This especially works well for really nasty, modern pedals, like TC Fangs/Eyemaster, the stuff from brands like Driftwood, Lichtlaerm, and This Heavy Earth, etc. Throwing a Northern Mauler on low gain, with the output cranked, in front of an amp with that kind of tone, or a Medusa, will change your life. Even something as quaint as a Boss ML-2 can be used that way.
Halfway through I thought this was going to be a negative review of my favorite amp that I’ve ever owned.
Until you went active and then C (I’m both). That’s when what I try to do came out. And you confirmed why I’ve kept the Dual Dark for so long.
Btw my distortion and gain almost entirely comes before the input, from pedals. Attenuator and volume high as heck and then extremely carefully opening the gain between 0 and 1 like I’m doing brain surgery.
that epiphone les paul :O :O :O crazy beautiful guitar !!!
Ultimate dad riffs
The Grzenia Guitars sounded the best and clearest of the bunch even with the low tuning, major chug monsters and look sexy too
I’m curious what the dual dark 100 sounds like with speakers other than v30’s. Great video
I bought an Orange Dual Dark 100 for $2,300 in 2016 (a good price for a high gain amp at that time) and have played it through the Orange PPC 212 cabinet that I bought then, and it sounds great with that cab.
Every time I go to the studio with mine, people comment on how great it sounds. Absolutely my forever amp.
Happy to see they brought back one of their best amps ever.
I owned this amp and sold it. It sounded great and was the heaviest head (weight) I ever owned.
Love the fat, round, bottom-heavy gnarly tones from this amp! I'm not into modern tight tones, so this is the kind of amp for me. Can't afford tho.
Hi Kyle, I've bought your Lichtlaerm Prometheus Quad Cortex Capture Pack on july 6 and I'd like to know what is the next step to get it ? Thank's from France :)
Love how Coheed & Cambria riffs lead your "dad rock" section.
He nailed it, with feeling
This amp is great for super low tunings! Go over to Draven Noire’s youtube channel to listen to his video of it. All his videos are top notch and compares all the amps to his Granophyre. Plays mostly in drop F too
Orange amps are notorious for the fact some of them can get a better clean tone out of their distortion channels than their actual clean channels. I have a friend with a micro dark, and another with a dark terror 15, and I have a Super Crush. I only ever use the clean channel as a pedal platform. The dirt channel on the neck pickup with the volume rolled back a bit sounds so glassy and sparkly and like fucking indie pop or a periphery ballad lmao... and you can get the gain in just the right spot to get that sound, and then have crushing metal distortion by engaging an overdrive with the gain at 9 o'clock or so.
Wish that orange would just make an affordable mid wattage tube combo with 12 inch speakers for the gigging punks that don't want a fender
uhh... Marshall?
@@gooseabuse you might be right
@@rob.carrillo watch Euge Valovirta's video on the Marshall DSL100. The DSL 40cr just a sized down combo with a 12' speaker.
Only a limited run unfortunately...trying my hardest to get that changed 😅
Nice Hellraiser man, that thing would match a Legacy Vl100 Nicely!
Kyle. Didn’t they say the new version has been tweaked to be more modern.? I thought I read that. Thanks
I wish it wasn’t a limited edition, these were killer 😞
bro! channel B! METALL!
Silly question. Is that the typical epiphone poly finish on the Adam Jones guitar?
Sounds killer
Perhaps unsurprisingly, but to me this (without a boost) has the same thing in the low end that kept me away from Rivera, which is the same thing I hate about the signature Pickups of the same dudes from Slipknot. Their tones may work in their studio, but it's not what I want in my home.
With a boost it's a different amp
We might both like Immortal Technique but what about that Penguin's paperback. I don't know. Namastè.
Did you capture some direct profiles? I think its the way to go with the QC
The Leeway riffs always !!!!!!!!
Kyle! Random question. How much would it cost, and how many tubes would it take to retube your entire amp collection?!!
LEADS FOR YOUR METAL BAND
yeah I like it too, but 3k is too much for this amp
i appreciate your content !
Did you notice a fizzyness on top?
“Dad rock tones”
*plays Coheed
Good lord put my old ass in the ground already lol
What did you do at the 1:01 mark? That tone was beast
I didn't know you could buy an amp this pricey at guitar center, and return it for a full refund? shit... i'm about to do that lol.
What do you think about that epiphone silverburst?
Excellent
Sounds dark and evil 👍👍🤘🏻
14:58 = best tone. What amp would you use to get that sound but better?
I am not a huge fan of the orange sound and never have been. That being said it definitely has a place in music. I think this woupd be a great amp for thay stoner doom rock with the super low tuning and a more "fuzzy" distortion
If Orange decides to keep selling the Dual Dark reissues for 2K don't think the used market will be able to get 2.8K - 3K. Matt Pike is a fan of the Dual Dark.
Capturing tones for an amp like the DD100 to play in digital is missing the whole point of the amp.
You are watching this in digital.
Hey Kyle, how did the sale go?
Uh yeah I’m calling about the leads…
Im kind of surprised you can buy an amp, make a bunch of captures to sell, and then return it. 😂
Is it hardwired or something? Seems like a lot for that amp.
Hardwired to SELF DESTRUCT!
Opening riff?
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#EvilAndDarknezJoe
#LeadsFoYoMeddleBaan
Black Metal JOE
There are two bands in my city that use these live and they get lost in the mix like no other. lol both are two guitar bands. In one, the other guitarist uses a Rockerverb and you basically can’t hear the dual dark. In the other band they use a plexi and a dual dark and the dual dark also gets buried.
It seems like a failure of all the guitarists in those bands. They really should forget what their favorite sounds are and need to tailor them so that they're either similar or complement each other (yeah, I know it sounds strange, but you _can_ have two different guitar tones that play well with each other OR you aim at uniform guitar sound from both of them). Playing in a band means adjusting to other musicians. Someone should tell them and I'm sure it's an easy fix for them.
I've a Dual Dark and it benefits alot from a MXR 10 band EQ pedal in the FX Loop to bump up the mids and highs to help it cut through more. An EQ in the loop of any amp with an FX Loop is going to make it alot more versatile tonally anyway.
@@itnefer4787 I really do think it’s just lacking in cutting frequencies. The most egregious example is the band using a Rockerverb mk1 and a dual dark 100 together. They both plug straight in and nothing crazy about the settings…both around noon on everything with some slight tweaks on the mids and highs. But the rockerverb just BURIES the DD and it’s not even funny. Me and my friend were both absolutely baffled. Seen the band many times. They are a sort of doom/heavy metal band.
Dude, I need this box! Is it true bypass? Does it have a sweet spot? Is it transgender friendly? Can it get Eddy's "Smells like teen spirit" tone? Asking for a friend
Computers suck
I thought orange were all digital, cool.
f toight
Shit sounds thin. Maybe you dont know what EQ is?
Maybe you got a bad mic?
That shit dont sound heavy.
Maybe go to Sweetwater and talk to Don Carr.
He doesnt know what heavy is either
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