Thank you Matt. A little off topic but a great shot at 5:08 of how a wing tip beach will cause cavitation to flow down the wing and stall the wing. Appreciate all you do for wind sports.
Hey Matt, great review, but I would find it very interesting if you did a review using the foil drive to get up on the foil in those exact light wind conditions. Myself and a buddy have been playing around with the foil drive on Lake James, a mountain lake East of Asheville in extremely light wind conditions with great results. Cheers!
Hey Matt. What would be your top end wind speed for winging the APF1350 ? If you thought the wind might pickup during your session might you choose the HA1080 instead? I don’t have Real Watersports for a garage so I need to choose my quiver carefully!
Ha ha! Yes we are ver fortunate to have all of the options. I think that the 1350 would top out for me at like 15-17. It would depend on if there is any swell or I would be in flat water. The 1080 will get going well in the light stuff and be way faster and more playful, but it doesn't have the low end. 1350 for me is my jonesing bottom of the barrel session. Then I will go to the 1080 once it is 10-15 mph with the DW board.
HI Matt, many thanks for the video! You really share the quintessential feeling of winging in light air. I can can get foiling in 5-6 knots (6-7 mph) wind, which are what we often get in the swiss lakes, with my 7'6" DW board, 155cm 2000 sq.cm foil (an overkill for my 65kg) and 6 mq 2021 wing. Fully agree that manouvers like jibes are a struggle in light air but I hope I can get better with practice! I am very interested in your opinion of the light air wings that have come out this year: the XPS Lightwind, the Loft Pro, the CWC and the Ventis (non Alula for like for like budget comparison). Where do you think they are they similar and where are they different ?
Cool. Glad you are getting out there. In my opinion, the cwc and XPS of similar size are the best for performance. They feel really light in hand and don’t feel like the massive wings that they are. All have good low end but different techniques. We teach on the loft a lot and have good success with lessons. The xps probably has the best low end get up and go and it does have the most compact wing tip that won’t catch in the water
Matt great video would you recommend the APF 1350 for a progressing intermediate as a daily driver - gusty inland lakes in Michigan. Or is it really just for the sub 15 knot days and more advanced riders.
Good question. At 220 lbs, I would go APF 1675 and Glide 220 tail. Won't be as quick as the 1350 but you will get on foil in the lightest air possible.
Thinking of buying the same Armstrong gear. What downwind board size and foil size do you recommend for 195lbs? I live in light wind area with 6.0 wing.
Sweet. Depends a bit on your skill level, but I would go for the 128L new Armstrong DW board. The extra length and volume will make it plenty stable and will allow you the forward speed you want. The 116L might be an option if you wanted it better turning and were riding a smaller wing board. Since you are chasing the low bound of the wind, then I would size that board up to get the stability and speed. Also get yourself a good 8m wing. 6m with DW board will be great and I would get the DW board over the 8m. That being said at your size to push the low low bound of the wind range you will need DW and 8m
In this light of air, power assist doesn’t really work that well and is pretty technical. This rigging is the best that I have found for light air winging.
What gear are you riding to optimize for light air winging?
Thank you Matt. A little off topic but a great shot at 5:08 of how a wing tip beach will cause cavitation to flow down the wing and stall the wing. Appreciate all you do for wind sports.
Great review, there are a lot of us that live in light wind conditions like this, the setup looks awesome
Hey Matt, great review, but I would find it very interesting if you did a review using the foil drive to get up on the foil in those exact light wind conditions. Myself and a buddy have been playing around with the foil drive on Lake James, a mountain lake East of Asheville in extremely light wind conditions with great results. Cheers!
Yep, I'll have one thanks 😁
Deal! We'll keep one with your name on it
Hey Matt. What would be your top end wind speed for winging the APF1350 ? If you thought the wind might pickup during your session might you choose the HA1080 instead? I don’t have Real Watersports for a garage so I need to choose my quiver carefully!
Ha ha! Yes we are ver fortunate to have all of the options. I think that the 1350 would top out for me at like 15-17. It would depend on if there is any swell or I would be in flat water. The 1080 will get going well in the light stuff and be way faster and more playful, but it doesn't have the low end. 1350 for me is my jonesing bottom of the barrel session. Then I will go to the 1080 once it is 10-15 mph with the DW board.
HI Matt, many thanks for the video! You really share the quintessential feeling of winging in light air. I can can get foiling in 5-6 knots (6-7 mph) wind, which are what we often get in the swiss lakes, with my 7'6" DW board, 155cm 2000 sq.cm foil (an overkill for my 65kg) and 6 mq 2021 wing. Fully agree that manouvers like jibes are a struggle in light air but I hope I can get better with practice! I am very interested in your opinion of the light air wings that have come out this year: the XPS Lightwind, the Loft Pro, the CWC and the Ventis (non Alula for like for like budget comparison). Where do you think they are they similar and where are they different ?
Cool. Glad you are getting out there. In my opinion, the cwc and XPS of similar size are the best for performance. They feel really light in hand and don’t feel like the massive wings that they are. All have good low end but different techniques. We teach on the loft a lot and have good success with lessons. The xps probably has the best low end get up and go and it does have the most compact wing tip that won’t catch in the water
Matt great video would you recommend the APF 1350 for a progressing intermediate as a daily driver - gusty inland lakes in Michigan. Or is it really just for the sub 15 knot days and more advanced riders.
Awesome. Looked like no wind at all. 220 lbs. I have the 1180 and 140l dw board. 1350 or go with the one of the bigger apf?
Good question. At 220 lbs, I would go APF 1675 and Glide 220 tail. Won't be as quick as the 1350 but you will get on foil in the lightest air possible.
Thinking of buying the same Armstrong gear. What downwind board size and foil size do you recommend for 195lbs? I live in light wind area with 6.0 wing.
Sweet. Depends a bit on your skill level, but I would go for the 128L new Armstrong DW board. The extra length and volume will make it plenty stable and will allow you the forward speed you want. The 116L might be an option if you wanted it better turning and were riding a smaller wing board. Since you are chasing the low bound of the wind, then I would size that board up to get the stability and speed. Also get yourself a good 8m wing. 6m with DW board will be great and I would get the DW board over the 8m. That being said at your size to push the low low bound of the wind range you will need DW and 8m
Where your foil boost ?
In this light of air, power assist doesn’t really work that well and is pretty technical. This rigging is the best that I have found for light air winging.
really worth the hassle?...... does not look like really. in this wind conditions: jogging or some beers.
Yeah good point. Lot of work for a little reward, but I would take some glides on foil and a paddle home over running any day of the week.
If you can’t get up with that setup…