How Palworld Humiliated An Entire Industry
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- Palworld broke multiple players records with Steam sales and top concurrent players count at more than 2 million. How did PocketPair make such an indie game like Palworld rise so fast and defeat the whole AAA game industry? Is Palworld truly a clone of Pokemon?
Palworld
Pokemon with guns
Palworld video essay
Pokemon
Pals
Palworld history
Palworld evolution
Palworld update
PocketPair
Nitendo
Video essay
00:00 - Intro
01:47 - The Rise of a Prodigy
05:42 - A Shake-Up in the Industry
12:58 - The Short-Sighted Hypocrisy
18:29 - A Whole Rotten Industry
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Is Palworld really a rip-off from Pokemon or did they change enough to create a whole new thing?
I just want triangle foundations so I can make round bases and a minimap.
created a new thing, then deliberately made it more simillar to make it a parody
New thing with a middle finger aesthetic.
Did they rip off existing ideas? Yes. Did they change them enough to make them different? Oh most definitely not lmao. It's like they tried to steal the entirety of breath of the wild and added pokemon to it as an afterthought just as a massive f you to Nintendo. Deserved tho, I've literally pirated every Nntendo game I've ever played for the last ten years.
New thing, and i am sick and tire of "nintendo apologist cult"
my favorite was the CEO statment of "I dont want to make something completly new. I want to make something fun that people will play"
This is the mindset of an absoulute B A S E D developer.
It’s a mindset i spent literal decades opposing, saying it was killing creativity and variety in gaming, but the state of games and developers in the last decade was SO AWFUL that logic became a revolutionary force.
Maybe the drunkards are the smart ones…
@@InternetHydra they said they didn't want to make something new but they did. Palworld has a lot of key features that many games don't so that is technically new. There comes a point where you can't just make something new so you have to yoink and twist the existing ideas to make us feel like they're new ideas. This is what palworld has done best imo
The last time I spent dozens of hours and destroyed my sleep cycle on a game I was 18 playing mass effect 2. I am now 29 and man is it awesome to know that I can feel this kind of joy gaming. I am also filled with immense disdain for every crappy triple a preorder that flopped. I got pokemon sword and beat it in 2 weeks, filled the pokedex and everything, then dropped the game entirely. I have played palworld almost every day since launch and have no intention to stop anytime soon, even after beating the current final boss.
@@SleekHerooThey didn't make anything new... What they did was take ideas from multiple genres and combine them into one fun game...
Look, inside me are two wolves. One wants to hug the cute fluffy creature i see, and the other wants me to bearhug it to death. Palworld allows me to do both, so both wolves are happy. Its that simple.
real
Same but I have a third wolf that want to fuck the cute fluffy creature. A weird wolf. Very horny wolf
Yeah…
You must feed the right wolf.... some lamball
fluffy? the polygons look sharp to me. maybe they should have spent less time catering to psychopathic kids like you and worked on the graphics more.
its not 1990.... actually games were already better looking than this in 1990...
its not 1980
Considering Palworld shaking up the industry, I would argue that it isn't alone in doing so. With the success of Baldur's Gate 3 and Lethal Company, in addition to Palworld, the illusion painted by the AAA video game industry is being shattered, steadily breaking the consumers out of their malaise of complacency and reminding them of what video games could be, with each doing it in such drastically different ways.
Meanwhile Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot tried to justify Skull and Bone's $70 USD, by calling it a "AAAA game". 🤦♂
Eh, lethal company is great fun and hilarious with friends but was just a flash in thebpan on the grand scale
How many "This is NOT the new standard" moments can we have in 12 months?
@@czarkusa2018
Let's find out
Don't forget Battlebit Remastered. People are tired of the money sucking "AAA" industry, they just want a good game for a good price.
Main draw for me was the reasonable price, if it was priced 60+ I would never have given it a chance. Devs should learn from this.
Absolutely. Asking nearly 80 dollars for normal editions is out of this world. The only exception I would ever make is GTA 6 and even then I would wait for the early reviews
only reason I tried it was because it was in GamePass. I've since given them the $30 bucks since I've gotten over 150 hours of pure enjoyment and entertainment out of this game.
Not for me, my time is more important than money (within reason). After trying it for a few hours on PC GamePass I was like, "yep I am buying this bitch on Steam", and then its like "oh that's cheap".
To be honest when I saw some streamers that I watch play it, I was just hyped of finally turning my dinos into slaves and work the base for me (yes I play a lot of ARK) but then I feared at what price point would this seemingly unbelievable game that someone actually made properly would be at. I saw the price on release, I bought it on release and haven't looked back ever since. A game of this magnitude that checks the box for most players disappointed about Ark Survival Ascended at that price is just a steal and you would be pretty stupid not to buy it immediately at that price if you were a fan of survival games and had enough spare cash to do so. It's just a good mesh of everything that has worked for previous games while trying to limit some of the bad aspects of those games.
Pretty sure this is the actual main reason it has sold so many copies. Conveniently also something almost every single palworld video forgets or refuses to mention.
Nintendo vs the company they told you not to worry about.
Crushing records
"Are you the best monster-collecting game because you're Pokemon? Or are you Pokemon because you're the best monster-collecting game?"
Nintendo do not actually have much to do with the Pokémon games. If the company which spent an entire year on QA for totk made Pokémon it would not release in such a state.
@@CrocojamesGamefreak is the company that’s responsible for Pokemon
@@Irken_Invader_Zim and the Pokémon company.
Palworld is the pokemon mmo that people have been begging for for YEARS.
This is what happens when a game doesn’t listen to their community for years. Someone else does it.
Came here to say this.
Pokemon is a shitty IP ran by idiots who have ignored the user base for decades. Their games are rushed, buggy, and they never do anything the users have been asking for like fix graphics lag or add playability features. The community has been asking for an MMO basically since the everquest era.
Palworld isn’t an MMO.
@@ljb5163 Gamefreak does listen to their customers though. When you buy their slop, you tell them that you want more slop so they are going to keep making slop. Everyone who bought Sword and Shield are to blame for Scarlet and Violet.
Except it's not an mmo
It's a survival game more similar to Ark
One of the things I think is hilarious about Palworld is that, in a significant sense, despite the guns and whatnot, the core gameplay is *significantly* less "exploitative" of your Pals compared to your Pokemon n a Pokemon game. Like, the vast majority of the utility a Pokemon has in a Pokemon game is tied to how well it can fight other Pokemon, whereas Pals just have so many beneficial non-combat uses that I, at least, feel significantly more emotionally attached to most of the Pals I catch and put to work than all but a handful of Pokemon I've trained, ever.
Pokemon says in its marketing some form of "you and your Pokemon are a team," but Palworld shows what happens when you make a game where that ACTUALLY is true, where you and your Pals really are a team...you make all of the money.
In addition, the meme of turning your base into a sweatshop for pals works for maybe 15 minutes. Being kind to them, letting them have breaks and good food and all that kinda stuff, benefits you more. They don't suffer from injury or illness if you give them fair conditions, and work longer even when you're away from your base exploring. They are happy, and they will happily work for you.
You are as strong as your team, and if your team is strong, you become nigh unstoppable, yourself.
Thats what i found so funny when all the pokemon fanboys started about slavery, like how is pokemon not slavery and gladiatorial combat
@@Alakablambecause Nintendo had to soften it by saying pokemkn get jealous of captured Pokemon because it means a chance to evolve and be stronger.....because the trainer takes their pokemon and fights other pokemon.
Ya know something pokemon can already do by just challenging trainees on their own.
@@AlakablamBecause it is actually fantasy cock fighting, without one or more participants dying at the end. Usually.
This is definitely demonstrated best by how even the weak pals having a use, either at the base or as support in a party, whereas in Pokemon the creature's utility is 99% in its capacity to battle.
Palworld's stat spreads and passives also mean you can breed the weakest pals to be hilariously strong, and the strongest to be some of the best workers. EVERY pal has some utility and that utility is also flexible.
"Can you at least try?" - All of us, asking Pokemon.
Like Muta said, they’ve had two years to take Pocket Pair to court and they haven’t done it. However, somebody makes a Pokemon mod for it and Nintendo has it taken down in less than a couple days.
Pokémon stans thinking they can outlawyer Nintendo lawyers. 🤦♂
The real problem is that they were CHARGING MONEY for that mod.
@czarkusa2018 point still stands.
Less than 24 hours for a mod, while the game has been known to the public since 2021.
But yeah, that modder wasnt smart locking the mod behind a paywall
@@czarkusa2018 seen nintendo take down mods that were free simply for using the IP
Only because they monetized the mod.
It's funny how Nintendo engineered the precedent that might cause them to lose if they sue in court with that whole King Kong vs Donkey Kong thing.
palworld had trailers since 2021, up until now Nintendo/Gamefreak/TPC themselves haven't seen a reason to sue Palworld.
They did take down a mod that uses actual Pokemon, as if the line they draw isn't quite obvious enough.
there's an extremely interesting analysis I once watched that explained that the very reason for Nintendo's draconic approach on copyright is them winning the King Kong v Donkey Kong trial
They saw that a gigantic media corp can lose a rather clear case and they feared since then that they will one day be on the other side
The issue is I don’t think they can sue. What’s nintendos argument “your cat monster looks like a cat as does mine”
@@carterpitbull7366 there are models that look at at least somewhat ripped off from pokemon models. There's some pal who's hair is identical to that of primarina, good reason to sue
Palworld to Nintendo:
*"Are you the best monster-collecting game because you're Pokemon? Or are you Pokemon because you're the best monster-collecting game?"*
If Pokémon had a hold on the monster catching industry it might cause me some trouble.
But would you lose?
Nah I'd cook
Nintendo to Palworld:
But can you market your pals without being accused of promoting gun violence?
@@skybattler2624
Yes.
There plenty more violence to be had in the game.
Fox flamethrower anyone?
Suguru Geto ? 😂
@@skybattler2624 Wrong question: are you also apealing to adults with an adult game
Shin Megami Tensei being the first creature collector goes even deeper. Before SMT in 1992, there was Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei in 1987, an NES game that was an adaptation of the Digital Devil Story manga. It was the first Creature Collector RPG ever created, and the similarities between Pokemon and MT/SMT are way more plentiful than the similarities between Palworld and Pokemon. SMT was released in 1992 as a successor series by the same developers in an attempt to distance the series from the manga adaptation it started as.
Also, fun fact, the narrative for decades has been that Digimon is a knockoff of Pokemon, but in actuality, Pokemon and Digimon took from SMT at the same time completely separately from each other, but Pokemon got more popular and its insane cult-like fans started claiming Digimon was a knockoff just to protect their precious IP.
Steight up lies
You can't even spell straight, no one cares about your opinions@@alexlehrersh9951
@@alexlehrersh9951you're entitled to your opinion once you learn to spell "straight"
Thank u for spreading awareness to the genre and its Founder to.
If you dig a little deeper you'll find out about Cosmic Soldier from 1985, which is not only older than the Megami Tensei series it already allowed you to recruit monsters in the form of aliens. Maybe there are titles even older than this one.
Pokémon's creator directly mentioned that the monster catching aspect was inspired by an Ultraman season that had the same concept. A lot of gen 1 Designs are also references to their Kaiju and Dragon Quest's monsters. In terms of gameplay, I think Pokémon took more from Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.
I don't think Digimon is directly inspired by Megami Tensei either, since it was pretty much created to be a boys' counterpart to the Tamagotchi. In fact, the original concept for Digimon was based on elemental creatures and it got scrapped because during development they became aware of Pokémon, which was increasing in popularity at the time, and found it to be too similar, then came up with the digital theming. After that they went out of their way to avoid having designs too similar or that directly reference other japanese franchises, at least in the first few years. It also took some time until they had a proper turn based-rpg.
One thing I gotta say is that the bows actually make sense. Random, I know, but it always bugs me when games over-design them.
The fact the bow actually needs full draw time for maximum damage makes it a surprisingly good weapon to fine-tune damage as well. Sure the crossbow is faster and stronger, but it has more risk of overdoing damage since it has only two settings, normal and crit like all other weapons.
@@katier9725When you're trying to catch 10x low level pals for a crumb of XP and using a crossbow, there are only 2 modes: kill and overkill
People: "PALWORLD IS JUST POKEMON!"
Ark players: 😶 "yea sure"
I used to play Ark. was about to get back into it but then they pulled stupid.
@manoftruth0935 yea im sad they tempted us with all that cool new stuff then nothing came of it
its more ark then it is pokemon, and the pokemon side of the game feels more like it was just tossed in to cash in on the state of the pokemon "fandom"
@@manoftruth0935i also used to like ark, but they just overhype things and never pay attention to their fans, and those dinos they teased i doubt they'll ever release.
Honestly, it makes me realize how much better Ark could be if the Dinos could work on their own.
more inovation in palworld than pokemon in over 10 years
more like 20 lol
It's the first game they made, so how could there be any innovation?
I was telly my wife today how lazy Pokemon has gotten that a motorcycle, lamp, gears, and ice cream are pokemon.
@@lordgrub12345 They've innovated off the monster tamer genre by adding base building too it and they've innovated off the base building genre by adding monster taming to it.
@@gratedradish6699 Ark did it first, though, so they're not really innovating off any of the genres
Craftopia is still in active development, the focus has switched to a more adventure builder style with the Seamless update. The last update was literally 5 days ago (Feb 5th). They launched a whole new test build for players to test and give feedback. The staff on Craftopia is the same staff it has always been, Palworld has its own dedicated team. Craftopia is not abandoned. It's built in Unity not unreal so all members of Pocketpair proficient in Unity are on the project. All new hires are experienced in Unreal as Palworld has become a huge focus for the company. Craftopia will still get regular updates from its original team. All this information is what I have found on their Discord.
Edit: I should note, this could all change in the future. As far as I am aware Craftopia only has 2 more biomes, maybe 2 more tech levels and polish / translation, then it is basically complete. So the team might just rush through it and move over to Palworld.
Good, if I was running the company I would definitely funnel a bit of my new millions into patching and plugging content holes in that at least for PR reasons. They don’t have to update it forever, just give it’s customers something they don’t feel embarrassed or angry about spending money on.
12:24 the fact that you can do bad yet you choose not, gives meaning to when you do good, for it is a conscious decision.
Pocket Pair built this game in a cave... with a bucket of USB sticks.
And a budget of 10k.
Don't forget about the bunch of newbies who don't even know how to code.
@@zacksilverstone7642and they made janitors with no experience developers.
Toiler paper orientation has a wiki page because is no fucking joke. The struggle is real.
Yep. like the picture on the wiki page for normal use. Or, if you have an a-hole cat, reverse it and hope they get bored before they figure out to pull it from the back. Unless you're a roommate, and just put the roll on the counter like a heathen.
All people need to do is look up the toilet paper patent (No. 459,516 , Sept 15 1891) to understand that overhand is PROVABLY the correct orientation.
I cant believe I'm looking it up now
@@pyromancer3d *option to butcher roommate intensifies*
Jesus Christ... I cant believe i got to look it up now.
Well, game devs said that Baldur's gate III was a once event, that was lightning in the bottle.
A game made over a span of what? just checked 6 year, with 400 people working, using early access to improve it, with heart soul and dedication.
That could be repeat once every year or once every two years, that was once in a decade game, that was not possible for the over 5 different studio with over 400 people to get such a win with more frequency.
Then Palworld shows up, said "hold me sake, gonna get the gun", and actually does a catches a "lightning in a bottle" how? do not ask, it was a combination of skill and dumb luck one can only find similar in Jack Chan movies.
They even dropped the game engine they had experience with for another one mid development because they got a golden opportunity hire (that knew nothing about unity, but was a expert in unreal 4) in a crazy belt it all move.
Even more crazy, the game was finished as soon they ran out of money, and nobody was actually keeping the budget in check.
No to mention that they had to rig and animated 100 monsters, when they did not know what heck a animation rig is not long before hiring a experienced animator.
In short
If Laurian is the Captain Pickard of the gaming world.
Pocket Pair is Captain Jack Sparrow.
That ending statement....
I'm stealing that.
Larian, Picard.
At this point ... anything that AAA devs cry about why their game was not that good etc etc .... ppl can easy just tell them to go stick their excuses where sun dont shine :D
After BG3 "Drama" and palworld only thing i hear from big company's are just pathetic excuses
Something important to mention about "Gotta catch em all" is that Pokemon abandoned the catch phrase in the early 2000s around the release of gen 3.
This fact will often be brought up by Dex Cut defenders, when people used to say "Pokemon is about catching them all, the dex cut goes against the vision of pokemon" they would reply "Erm Ackshually Pokemon abandoned that catch phrase ages ago".
I'm sure the Gamefreak/Pokemon bootlickers would try and attack Pocket Pair for using it, but to do so would be hypocritical.
I agree, and even with the dex they give you half of the guys require you to trade or some other bs
@@user-nq7ql5wl4l yeah even as a kid I always hated trade evos, but I will admit it did promote pokemon as a social experience trading with my friends in the school playground.
It was a thing of it's time, and pokemon should have changed evolution methods by now but for whatever reason they refuse to.
My main criticism wasn't about that though, it was about how pokemon lost it's original vision of being a monster collector JRPG, whereas it seems Palworld is ready to fill the void that Pokemon left behind rather than just copying pokemon.
It goes to show you. Companies rather charge 100 people 69.99 then 1 million at 49.99
u mean 69.99 then at 29.99?
@phantomhearts5577 I'm talking about AAA games duh. Palworld is not AAA
Correction, 100 people at 69.99 then 110 people at 49.99
That is what is really happening, they are gaining more total then they lose.
I'm sorry to be That Girl, but you're meaning to use "than", not "then" for this.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 Not really, how about 50 at $69.99 than 110 at $49.99.
Maybe more of a 'realistic' gap due to price.
The original trailers had Palworld running in Unity and did use store bought assets, but PP switched to Unreal Engine (literally just bc they hired a vet UE dev who had no unity exp), then had to make their own assets. A better long term effect. Though I do hope we get earlier features and art style from said earlier trailers as it was even more insane.
After Unity's bs, switching to UE is a really good thing.
@@propheinx2250Out of the fire and into the frying pan is indeed technically a better path... Ideally a return to coding original engines designed around the game/genre would be better for the industry.
@@InternetHydra One does not simply create a game engine. That's like rocket science mane.
After learning about the development of Palworld and everything surrounding it… It’s more than inspirational it’s almost as if this game was *destined* to even exist
Enshrouded is another good example of a relatively small developer to create a great survival/sandbox experience.
There's a lot of little gameplay tuning in Palworld I really like, particularly around inventory/materials management. Burden limits are forgiving and you can carry a totally useful amount of stuff, if you're in your base you can use use a material at a work station without having to tediously go through chests, once you unlock the feedbag you don't have to manually eat, simple quality of life things. I always got the impression that some games were actively trying to waste my time dealing with un-fun micromanagement of supplies to push up /played time numbers, or were just going for a like-real-life level of tedium, rather than because they were fun game mechanics.
It's not a perfect game, the combat is pretty vanilla and boss fights aren't nearly as complex/challenging/rewarding as something like DS3 or Elden Ring, but as far as the overall approach they have to making games I really like it, and it punches way above its weight being a $30 early access game.
Yup, they've really stripped all the time-wasting out the game, you never feel like you're at your job.
You can also have furnaces and campfires near the pal box at a resource base so you can start a bunch of ingots, fried eggs, hot milk then cancel production to have it pull the crafting ingredients from base chests but then it goes back to your inventory so you can collect everything and bring it back to the main base for actually processing it.
@@jamesdesormeaux1074what a great tip!
If Nintendo though they had a case they'd have taken this to court already
easily best take i've seen so far
Reminder that Robotrek's lead dev from Red Entertainment was kidnapped by Nintendo ninjas when he was developing Robopon 2, also other members of the same team got arrested for alleged involvement in gang violence.
Digimon was “Pokémon with guns” before it was cool.
Agreed- terriermon getting giant guns out of nowhere is peak
Bandai Namco must be kicking themselves. They really dropped the ball.
Ye digimon was bomb af when I was like 8
I still love digimon tho.
Bro I been literally thinking how well digimon could play in this game
Going back to your point about the CZcams thumbnails. I wouldn’t have clicked this video without the Zoe artwork on it. Well played
you know what game palworld reminds me of and that no one talks about? Spectrobes. Especially the wii version. Honestly I ADORED being able to fight in real time with my character ALONGSIDE my monster and wondered, even back then, when nintendo would allow pokemons to fight in real time, either controlled by the player or having the player fighting alongside the pokemon. And here I have it. And boy did I crave that. Now I would genuinely enjoy a remake of the spectrobe games on pc not gonna lie but hey palworld is already scratching a pretty big itch.
Disney would be dumb to skipp out on this chance, especially if done well.
...unfortunately I do believe Disney is that dumb and would like to be proven wrong.
True. And the spectrobes had so much personality in their design, really complex but you'd look at them and go wow.@@JDReC100
Duuuuuuude, that an 'Spectrobes 2 Beyond the Portals'
Can't deny there were a lot of ideas copied.
But players like those ideas and so money was spent.
It never ceases to amaze me how video game companies never stop to ask "What product do people want to buy?".
It's also important to remember that ideas are not copyrightable. Gameplay is not copyrightable. You can't claim ownership over an idea. Only the expression of that idea.
Because really, the hard work is taking the idea to some finished form. Having an idea for a story is much easier than *actually* writing the novel.
And the fact that Nintendo has doesn't anything really new with their "idea" in over a decade is good enough evidence for *why* ideas don't have copyright protection: it's to encourage exactly this kind of change.
@@Xeno426
Well, that, and then everything would already be copyrighted. No one would be allowed to make ANYTHING.
Blizzard copies ideas all time. Wc was done before - rts was not a new invention of blizz. Sc is just Wc with other assets and story. Hearthstone, overwatch, what was the name of the dota clone?? - its all a copy of another, mostly non successful, game.
Even diablo is not complete original.
Every game developer got inspiration from other games or books or even music.
western devs care more about making woke and gay games. at least no sane dev will want to ever copy abby from tlou2. they can keep that
@@Hadeto_AngelRust
Larian is a western dev and they made a game that is inclusive without being woke (characters have customization options typically associated with wokeness, but the game is not pushing an agenda, instead focusing on creating a good, highly interactive story, thus missing the defining attribute of wokeness).
A lot of other indie devs also make games with no significant agenda-pushing. Dunno about triple-A studios because I'm so uninterested in their trash microtransaction-laden cash grabs that I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.
Just because Naughty Dog is infested with toxic wokeness doesn't mean all western devs are, especially the ones that care at all about making good games. (Can't disagree on Abby, though. That character is a disgusting monster, and should have been treated as the villain she is. TLOU2 in general is just... gross.)
Wait a fuacking second, those guys did overdungeon? Its a really cool game!
I see what you did there. Yes.
I approve
Becoming knows as the "pokemon with guns game" was a genius marketing strategy, especially when looking at the gameplay.
You get all the benefits of competing with pokemon without actually competing with the behemoth. They get all this attention for free, but when you look inside, they're not actually trying to rip off pomemon. They just want the player to have fun.
If pokemon started releasing the best games ever, it wouldnt really have much of a negative impact on palworld. The playerbase already knows that the game plays completely differently from any pokemon game.
I would agree with you if everywhere I went that spoke about Palworld there weren't a bunch whining about how Pokemon is bad despite being in an entire separate genre of game
Best Take of a CZcamsr on Palworld I have heard to date. None of the drama, not giving platform to the mental garbage that the twitter warriors barf into the internet, just a good, objective take. THANK YOU!
This is quite a good analysis. But you have forgotten one game series: DRAGON QUEST.
The first game done most of what SMT and that robot game did back in the 80's.
And even came out with a new game. I need to play Dark Prince more but Moonstone Island has stolen my attention. And unlike Pokemon DQM TDP has actual voice acting. There’s zero excuse for their laziness and complacency.
Omg hi!! I subbed to you so long ago and CZcams Never suggested your videos or notified me til now 😢. Im glad to see your channel again
Never expected to see you floating around in the wild. Love your content
It is quite sad that this game is this big... not because of the game (It has its issues but I am happy it is as big as it is) itself but because many people do not have any idea about indie games or AA games in general. There are a ton of hidden gems that are not hard to find.
A lot of these videos praising Palworld seem to just confirm one thing, people need to try indie games more. I do not care if it is Palworld, or Hades, or Vampire Survivors... try to look a bit further and you will find games that cose less than 10 dollars, and are higher quality than anything the AAA industry has put out recently.
Great vid!
This is a very valid comment, I've been playing indie games apart from RDR2 the last few years and have been treated to a lot of very good games. Plus no online services, micro transactions etc.
While true. Most people are still snakebit from the 2010-2020 run of "early access" games inundating the market to see "omg NEXT BIG GAME" hype that were then abandoned within months or even weeks.
Thing is most indie games I see are just platforming side scrollers. No thanks.
@kingdinamo2076 raft, the forest, hades, dredge, dave the diver, even palworld. No side scroll games there. If you really want to look at alternatives there's options.
@@kingdinamo2076 not most, but many are abandomware cashgrabs
Well said... It not a clone when it has its own thing going.
Im really interested in Palworld since Pokemon has failed to make me want a main series game in generations.. but man all of those menus and mechanics look really rough to learn for my small brain lol.
I suggest if you have a friend play it with them maybe, it was my first real survival game, I played minecraft before but not much else. Playing it with friends helped me get into it, but now am running solo. I so far am having a bunch of fun, I also enjoy even if you play singleplayer you have your pals to keep you company.
it's really pretty noob friendly, just actually follow their tutorial they put in the top right corner and you'll be up and running in no time.
I dont even play survival game but its very good at slowly introducing its mechanics to you. The only thing my gripe is once you get 3rd base its kinda hectic to manage all of them specially swapping and managing 20 pals each base.
it's easy to learn if you try other survival craft games are harder than that
That's why instead of folly populating 3 bases I just make one primary base and my other 2 will be mining bases or a specific task base and I always cap those at 10 pals at most. I agree though it's a lot of micromanagementif you make three full fledged bases solo..@@Lucivius27
very great take and i love how u put everything together, earned sub
Preach!, you won my sub with that video, now I go back to Palworld to catch more Pals ;)
6:00 it makes complete sense to dev games based off the same systems! Once you release the first game you can tweek thing and take criticism so the next iteration is even better. And you don’t have to make everything from scratch again or if you do you will already know how to do it. They had to switch from unity to unreal so they did have to remake a lot of stuff
This is literally how games in the ps2 era had such quick turnaround. There was one year or less between the first four ratchet and clank games, all built on the same foundation.
As long as they are willing to support the modding community, Palworld is going to be able to live for a long time.
excellent video, well thought out and communicated. Really enjoyed watching and totally agree- this game is a breath of fresh air. Like your style, subbed
How do you not have more subscribers? You have such quality content and amazing journalism skills - it’s wild to me! Thank you for this great video filled with a plethora of information wrapped up into a nicely timed video!
Thank you!
1:42 If you think that Fox looks like a Vulpix you are blind as a bat.
Foxparks is just the Firefox browser logo but as a pokemon-style monster.
It's honestly nuts how people see, like in this case, Foxparks and think Vulpix. They're both foxes that breathe fire, and that's it. The designs are so obviously different - most clearly how Vulpix has several curled tails because it's a kitsune while Foxparks has 1 thicc tail that's also *on fire* - that it's just laughable and rediculous to even think they're identical.
Me when pokemon sues me because they own the right to foxes
Bats aren't actually blind. Chairs are though. Blind as a chair makes a lot more sense.
That's what I was thinking. If you're trying to make monster designs and you look to real world animals for inspiration and then look at a red fox. What other conclusion could you come to other than fire fox?
I´m gonna buy Palworld tomorrow and I can say, I´ve waited until big youtubers put out gameplay videos to be sure Nintendo isn´t taking this game down asap and first gameplay I watched was actually a almost 2hrs video by Asmongold. You don´t know what it means me watching a gamplay video which is more than 30 minutes, that never happend before. But when I was watching Asmon getting into the game: my mouth started to open and my eyes wident until they lit up and I was sitting there looking at my screen "this game is real and I can buy it?" feeling almost the same excitment to buy and play a game as when Red and Blue came out. I´m mindblown a game in 2024 is actually able to bring back that childish excitment to this 36years old guy, thought that was gone forever.
I waited till last friday too. It was meant to be the second game I play for maybe an hour or two a day when I get bored of the main game I play.
16 hours played in last 2 days. ooops
@@maxhax367 Quite addictive game, amirite?
ok, finished the whole video (referencing my previous time-stamped comment). What an excellent breakdown, and thank you for making this!
Couldn't agree more! Great Video!! I'm a gamer who LOVES Pokemon, played it since it's release in the 90s and I also love Ark Survival, but PalWorld..... has me in it's grasp! I have to force myself to play other things. I think about playing the game, things I can do in it and etc. For YEARS, I've been saying Pokemon needs to make an open world MMORPG of it's complete content collection in order to save the brand and bring in real interest... And then Comes PalWorld!!
from thumbnail alone, dragon quest might wanna have a word.
Right, a lot of people are citing SMT, but Dragon Quest 5 is almost certainly the reference the Pokemon team used for monster catching.
can u imagine if palworld have 1000++ different pals type, also gigantic bosses like ark titans, holy shit, i'm gonna blow my mind
Gigantic bosses, eh? Head down north to the bottom of the hill from the spawn point. Yeah, there's a boss version of every pal, especially in dungeons, and then there's the Lucky pals...
@@SupersuMC world boss not some mini boss, gigantic boss with 100 meter height
I wanna ride a sky whale.
I think another lesson to learn from Pokémon is to not drown the fans in too many.
@@InternetHydra Hmm, nope.
have my like bro, you deserve it! :D
nice video
One of the better takes I've seen on the internet tbh.
Palworld is really a great game.
A combination of games and very good executed.
Palworld definitely has its moments where it’s rough around the edges (that’s pretty customary with any game released in Early Access), but the actual gameplay loop is so much fun. I’ve been having a blast exploring the world and discovering new pals, turning my base from a crack shack to an actual, self sustaining base, and learning more technology to become a better pal tamer. Its a game that doesn’t waste your time and gives you a rewarding progression system for exploring, catching pals, and leveling up. It’s been years since a Pokemon-like game has caught my interest and Game Freak’s recent releases have done nothing but make me stay away from it with how buggy and downright repetitive they got. Palworld is a rightful competitor to it, especially with how it runs, the game actually being fun, and the price being lower than AAA and extremely accessible.
Don’t get me wrong, I do think there are some grounds for the whole “stealing ideas” argument, but that’s the only thing I can get behind. To say this is a complete asset flip of AI generated crap is infuriating.
Great Video. Great Opinion. Thanks for making it!
well said... especially those closing statements
Grate video dude
Palworld is a cure to genshin 3 wishes.
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Such a good video. You really outlined the epistemic bubble development, hubris, and intentional mediocrity of so much of the gaming industry there.
This vid got you an instant sub from me sir. Nailed each issue square on the head
Don't forget that without the game engine it would be impossible as well epic store assets store fill with contents. But I get the feeling that team is fill with trust of the people working for pokemon like capture since they enjoy their game and turn into what people wanted. Well there was ark survival game with creatures capture game and base building. It all come down what players wanted creatures with gun just like GTA.
you dont need a game engine to make games bro. you could literally take an empty file and put some python code then boom you have a game
@@dylanbacon554 Well if skills enough but depend on small to large scale will effect the game lag and render. It lot of coding. 2D game are easy but 3D is different level. But it take very long time to develop if you starting from ground but required a lot knowledge. Still required more tech stuff and math and assets management.
@@darknetworldOkay when talking 3D i agree with you. thats definetly a different ball game than 2D, i say as im actively making a 2.5D horror game lol
(sorry for spelling mistakes, im a fast typer on keyboard)
Pokemon just becomes stale because they have nothing to compete against, there is no competition in the market of "monster catching games", they have a complete Monopoly on it. Competition usually lights a fire under someones ass to impliment new things, to try out new stuff. So if Nintendo would try to shut down Palworld, it would just show that they don't want any competition because that would make them have to work harder to still appeal to the masses, which, let's be honest, fades year after year.
Also Nintendo didn't even invented half their Pokemon they have, an Icecream cone, a trash bag with eyes and mouth, a key chain, a chandelier, fridge, microwave or lawnmover... I mean, are you kidding? How uninspired is that? Let someone else atleast have their own spin on monsters that are at least somewhat creative, where you are also able to catch them. What is the problem with that?
I mean... monster tamer games are an entire genre and have been for a long time now. There's always been competition, people just never look past pokemon to discover the rest and the ones that do get light shone on them are often ALSO just called 'lol its just a pokemon ripoff'. Pokemon DOES have a monopoly, but people incorrectly thinking any game where you collect cool/cute monsters and do stuff with them is a pokemon ripoff is also part of that problem. I love Temtem, but that game is way closer to 'pokemon ripoff' than Palworld, and people even say similar things about Digimon... even though Digimon came first.
But yeah, bottom line is that too many people aren't even aware that monster taer games have always been an entire genre and as a result incorrectly assume only Pokemon does it. Cassette Beasts, Monster Sanctuary, Spectrobes, Yokai Watch, Monster Rancher... shits been around, to varying degrees of quality. People just don't look.
Can you make up your mind? Pokemon a clone of other monstercatching mechanics or has it no competition?
A lot of it has to do with it being the only true sandbox we've had in a long time. It has joy and allows you to immerse yourself. Loot boxes, battle passes, and skins all just remind me that I'm poor.
it's not a rip off, it's as much of a Evolution as much as it is a Revolution. Thank you for elaborating on this topic in this video :) i hope tripple A can learn.
underrated channel.
Even tho copy cats and similar made things been around before video games.
you called it Coke and Pepsi,
Or Mcdonald's and Burger King,
Or just the "sandwich" itself.
Copying from each other ain't something new DC and Marvel copy from each other all the time they both have a captain marvel lmao.
@@teamofone1219
Yeah it's like Doom Patrol and X-Men,
Doom Patrol was first... but X-Men did it better or was more interesting and had better concepts.
funny thing is Pokemon literally copied other games aswell
@@dylanbacon554 Yeah "copying" is mostly marketing strategy thing as well,
it who just can do it better and "original" and different.
Fast foods, Movie places, or any entertainment products been doing it for years
And the thing is, it have be "Good" or "Better", not getting stale and lazy.
@@bobbynick5358 honestly, never thought of it that way
I've only been playing Indie Games for a decade now. Palworld is just another great nail in the coffin for AAA Games for me. This is the Pokemon experience I wished for my whole childhood.
Pocket Pair shows that you don't need a shit ton of money or people to make an amazing game, you just have to be smart, passionate and know what players want.
great video man big ups from Greece
I tried it, didn't like it, if you do, thats great, enjoy it.
How far did you get?
The only thing that I'm hoping for with palworld is continuing to develop the systems that they implement from other games a little better. I'm definitely not agreeing with all the plagiarism people, and maybe the issue is that I don't like the pokemon games in the first place, but I find that for boss fights, I'd rather just play elden ring. For survival gameplay I'd rather play arc or rust. For exploration I'd rather play tears of the kingdom. Hopefully with their newfound budget they continue working on the systems that they have in place now that the pressure is off instead of feature creep.
Yes I would rather play ark, I love crashing, having to manually manage my inventory and waste hours to make some bullets, i love being overencumbered because I have to bring all the materials in my inventory, I love that when Im overencumbered I can't move at all while palworld already changed that,I love resources and equipment having up to 7 different tipes of heavy material requirements (fkn cryoballs, while palsphere require 3 materials to craft in Palworld at level 1), I love a taming sistem where you have no clue when the shithead is about to fall asleep and you might end up hurting at the last seconds ruining your tame and wasting your time, I love taming taking upwards of 24 real time hours in official servers, I love that I could do that and loose every single fkn thing I own while palworld ensure that your stored and carries pals are safe (unsless changed settings), I love lifeless and buggy dinosaur who don't feel alive and have 3 total animations, I love that my character can only walk run crouch and jump and even if he could dodge the hitboxes are shittier than dark souks 2, I love that you need a paid dlc to have the ability to climb walls, I love that the terrain is a fumbled mess of cliff and extremely packed up small trees that blocks you and make flying mounts a necessity rather than a choice, I love that armor is not balanced at all where you take no damage if you have it but has shit durability, meaning if you don't have luck or a grappling hook you have to wait for whatever to kill you because every hit has a mini knockback effect, there is no skill sistem so they just auto attack endlessly and their ai is just "move as close as you can to target x and autoattack" (even minecraft has fkn skeletons bruh), I love having to dedicate entire play sessions to collecting resources, I love doing so with no fast travel (unless you get to endgame teleporters), I love doing so in the ocean (they took the most boring ass biome of the game and instead of making it fun/interesting they decided to add jellyfishes which just act as flosting mine which when come in contact will permanently stun lock you and your creature until death, you cant attack them melee cause if you try you get instantly stun you and other wild creatures are immune, you get gang raped by every other sealife and you cant do nothing but watch and wait), I also love that at ond point they added electric eels which would do thesame thing WHILE SWIMMING FASTER THAN THE PLAYER!!!!!! It was so unbearably shit that they changed it due to player backlash. i love half ass dlc released while the game was in a dogshit state, I love that after years the server search is still broken as fuck, slow as dogshit and sometimes dosent show you what you search for, I love that the bosses have no iteractable mechanic because their special attacks are undodgeable and it's just a dps battle that to win you have to bring 20 perfect creature and hope to win (creature thay you will lose permanently if they die or the boss timer runs out), I also love that when you don't succeed you lose EVERY ITEM YOU HAD ON (cant recover the deathbag), I also love having to take workshift with friends because if you want to raise a dino with imprinting you have to interact with them every hour for real life days in cases of quetzal and giga
Don't ever ever play Ark when Palworld is an alternative, they are soom gonna add pvp and it will completely destroy and overshadow Ark
@@alessandroconti380 Haha 😅 maybe I'm looking through rose tinted glasses a little bit. I played arc a lot when I was younger. I'm not really bashing on palworld that much, it just might not be my cup of tea.
I probably will come back to palworld at some point but right now it's just not fleshed out enough in it's mechanics to make me interested. My point was rather to say that it's more of a jack of all trades master of none kinda deal. I think this is definitely changeable though. It looks like they have passionate developers and the money to support themselves now, so I have high hopes.
I still have my copy of Robotrek that I played as a kid. The track "Research and Development" is a classic song from my childhood. Loved the shout out for it!
15:23 that is what the problem is with tem tem and other such pokemon-like games.
They just try to do the *exact* same thing as pokemon. Maybe they add a little bit of depth to the battle system, or something like that, but nothing ground breaking.
Where pocketpair saw pokemon legends arceus and was like "Yeah but what if guns?" and of course, a lot more than that.
Palworlds is literally pokémon with guns and im here for it
gamers are simple people
@@Silvartop honestly
@@SugarResultnot really... where is the automation and base-building in that? Way more core mechanics than guns.
Ark with Pokémon is way more accurate... but a ton of people don't know what Ark is, and honestly they are better off that way XD
@@janosbrutyo2835 true tbh
@@janosbrutyo2835 I don't get the Ark hate so many people have. I've logged thousands of hours in that game and always enjoyed myself. I have no love for the developers, as they seem to not care about improving their creation, but the base gameplay that Ark provides, just like Palworld, is incredibly addictive and rewarding.
"Don't ask questions, just buy products, and get excited for new products!"
Very good video essay summarizing the discussions around Palworld and the gaming industry in general. Thank you.
Also, may I ask for the name of the song you use at the outro of the video?
Thank you, again! ^^
would like to know too :)
With a little luck, these "bumps in the road" (as they call it) will become more bumpy and happen more often.
"Pokemon never had to copy from anyone"
*Dragon Quest would like to have a word*
precisely my sentiments too my dude
Megami Tensei as well.
Lmao they pulled a final fantasy 😂
A/B testing was common with Ocean Liners... as the yt channel Ocean Line Designers could attest... They released two ships, that were meant to form the same route regularly, but one of them had upgrades based on the shortcomings of the other. I'm talking about ships like the Titanic, Olympic, Brittanic and the like. Even tough the ships were the same tonnage, hull and basic design, their furnishings and interior decorations were different.
"Oh, so that's how it works‽ I was letting my food spoil for no reason!" We've all been there. XD
>6.75 million dollar budget
Knew that the "The budget was just 10k usd!" stuff was nonsense
Hardcore Pokime fans: "Palworld is just pokime with guns, a meme games"
Palworld: Use Unreal engine 5, With good graphic and very good optimization , can be played with low specs PC, compared to other UR5 game
Hardcore pokime fans: But.. our game... NVM our game looks lke Worse PS2 games
Low spec Palworld looks better than Pokémon... that's crazy.
Pokemon is far the better game
Lies@@HeilRay
@@alexlehrersh9951you’re coping, it’s okay dude. Pokémon SV is a laggy mess with low poly count, and a render distance shorter than a foggy morning. And it’s still like that after two dlc’s.
It’s good that palworld is better in every way, cuz you can just not buy palworld if you don’t wanna, and if they become competition to Pokémon, then Pokémon will have to make a better game so everyone wins
@@alexlehrersh9951 sure bro... With almost identical gameplay this past 15 year With graphic....
They not even trying to make pokemon game this past 10 year,
Nitendo Have and can Make great game, But they never try to do it to pokemon series, They Have Zelda If they try, they can make pokemon game like palworld from 2017 with the same graphics as Zelda BOTW,, but what they did this past 10 year? Make stupidly Ugly disappointment pokemon game with 60$ price tag
I felt that part about the system humbling you. Didn't know you could run until level 43 or summit. Thought full stick tilt was full throttle.
The best summary of the success story of Palworld on here.
It's funny how people say Pokemon doesn't copy from anyone when they ripped off the concept of Mega evolution from Digimon.
I don't even know if I'd agree it's a copied thing. The only similarity it has is the evolution is temporary and uses the word 'Mega'. But temp, heightened states isn't a Digimon exclusive idea. Mega Evos basically the Super Saiyan state for specific Pokémon.
@@TaskMaster5nah pokemon literally copied mechanics and designs from several games and IPs.
3:25 you just wanted to say JDM, didn't you?
There are big differences in how asian languages look and are written and it doesn't take much of effort to be able to differentiate between them, so to me this just feels lazy/ignorant, even if you said it as a joke.
To fill in on that, these reviews are chinese, not Japanese, which means it's good old classic chinese spam like everything else.
Square and squiggly blocks - chinese
partially squiggly (due to chinese characters used), but with more simple (japanese) characters used inbetween - japanese
lines and circles assembled in squares - korean
letter-y squiggles with a lot of loops and circles - thai
Simple! :)
My apologies, you re right. I should have looked at the characters more closely
great video. watched it while driving my toyola
Well-put!
Your comparison to including real world cars in gta is a pretty bad one. Real cars in a game trying to be realistic are very different to making a fictional world and copying someone elses fictional characters.
On top of that, while auto makers haven't tried to sue rockstar, plenty of weapons manufacturers have tried to sue over games like Call of Duty etc for the detail specific recreations of real world guns.
Now i dont think people should be mad about it, but youve just used a really bad example for your argument here.
Not really. All these concepts are either protected by Trademark, Registered or/and copyrighted. To the eye of the law, any intelectual property being copied is liable to possible lawsuit. Besides Rockstar doesn't make the cars look realistic. They literally based their design in existing designs. They go as far to nearly copy car model names like the Pegassi Itali instead of Ferrari Italia. In fact, GTA is more blatant than Palworld
@@Silvartop there's literally a lawsuit that exists about this and yes, there actually is a difference. Call of duty got sued for using realistic Humvee designs in modern warfare without permission and the court ruled in Activision's favour because the use of realistic car models was an important artistic choice to represent reality in their game. That argument would not apply to palworld. The artistic choice to represent a fantasy world is very different to the choice to represent reality. If you're representing reality you HAVE TO use real world designs. You don't have to blatantly copy fictional copyrighted designs when depicting a fictional world.
@@Silvartop like you used a bad example, that's fine, the rest of your video is great, but this was a bad example for your argument.
Dont border him. He is a Palworld fanboy and a Pokemonhater@@danielarmstrong2144
Wow great video dude!
One thing I have to add, Final Fantasy started in a very similar state as PalWorld, the company Square was in the brink of bankruptcy, their other attempts at games sucked, Dragon Quest was the insanely popular JRPG IP at the time in japan, to the point that the japanese government mandated to have DragonQuest games only released on weekends.
So Square ripped-off all the RPG fantasy stuff and game mechanics they could to make a last ditch effort, and it worked.
History really repeats itself...
the thing is pokemon literally copied dragon quest too lol
Love Palworld, brother kept raving about it so I decided to actually play it and became hooked
Awesome video bro.
18:10 I wouldn't call Palworld "a good Pokemon game" because it's not "a pokemon game" even in terms of similarities, it's actually incredibly different because of all the other elements borrowed from other games. It's almost like calling Digimon World, Digimon World ReDigitize Digimon World Next Order "pokemon games" when they're VPet RPGs, not monster collecting RPGs (even if they were an expansion on Digital Monster Ver S which was basically just a vpet simulator that added legally distinct pokemon gyms owned by a villain organization as boss battles. I am not joking. This was notably absent from the later WonderSwan version).
Does anyone know how to get that image of the Elden Ring character with a gun? 8:06 It gives me happy brain chemical and I wanna know where to find it so I can save it on my computer.
It’s more like ark with Pokémon over Pokémon with guns imo