Nocturnal speaks out on XSET leaving Apex Legends & his plans on RETIRING from ALGS..

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  • Nocturnal speaks out on XSET planning to leave Apex & his plans on RETIRING from ALGS..
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  • @kingoffongpei
    @kingoffongpei Před 15 dny +193

    For those who don't want to listen through 17 minutes:
    XSET dropped the team and Noc, Fun, and Hodsic planned to look for new orgs while appearing to still be signed by XSET. They were not going to include Koy and they even asked him to keep silent on the matter, presumably so they don't look orgless and desperate.
    Koy waits about a month, but then tweets this update so he can find a new spot. This negatively affects the leverage of the other group because now everyone knows that they aren't currently stable, causing them to negotiate from lower ground. However, by remaining silent, Koy potentially misses out on opportunities. What if another free agent takes a spot that Koy could have gotten?
    I'm shocked that Noc would even ask him to do this but I'm not shocked at all that Noc feels like he's being unfairly treated here. He inexplicably views this tweet as Koy trying to make himself look better than everyone else, which makes no sense. At best, Koy could have just said he was LFO and left out the rest of XSET getting dropped. But as it turns out, a terminated employee doesn't owe you his silence.
    And, by the way, Noc spills the beans on XSET leaving esports entirely. So now Noc screwed over all the other teams signed to XSET but I guess it's only bad when Koy does it.

    • @Burt0505.
      @Burt0505. Před 15 dny +28

      I completely agree lol, he’s being fucked over by keeping quiet about their negotiations that he’s not even involved in, makes no sense. I would have tweeted this earlier.

    • @MiguelJackson22
      @MiguelJackson22 Před 15 dny +5

      Nailed it.

    • @kingoffongpei
      @kingoffongpei Před 15 dny +5

      I should add that while Koy could have also looked for teams in a more discreet manner, it might not have mattered. I don't work in esports but it's not uncommon for a secret on the magnitude of xset pulling out of all esports to leak. People LOVE spilling juicy gossip. Many of the orgs they planned to talk to may have already known xset was pulling out or at least heard it was imminent.

    • @ItsClutchLmao
      @ItsClutchLmao Před 15 dny

      amazing explanation

    • @zCaay
      @zCaay Před 15 dny

      Couldn’t have said it any better, feel for Koy, he doesn’t deserve that!

  • @raekeemfairley5344
    @raekeemfairley5344 Před 15 dny +110

    Why tf does he keep saying Koy fucked up all of his/XSETs plans when Koy is not apart of those “plans” at all….? Why would Koy wait around for XSETs plans????????

  • @JDvb23
    @JDvb23 Před 15 dny +26

    No NDA, koy was able to and should’ve made the announcement weeks ago. Ridiculous how they somehow think koy is the selfish one but don’t see how selfish it is to stifle his opportunities.

  • @TheYYellowmamba
    @TheYYellowmamba Před 15 dny +47

    Why the fuck does Koy need anyone's permission to do anything, he's no longer under contract.

  • @cbreezee8594
    @cbreezee8594 Před 15 dny +129

    lol the plan was to cut Koy off the team and screw him over so he did it first and Noc is salty. Got it.

    • @DarkM00n575
      @DarkM00n575 Před 15 dny +12

      he didn't want to play with them anymore, why would they include him in the deal?

    • @voidtankage4289
      @voidtankage4289 Před 15 dny +17

      Koy wanted to leave the team not Koy getting cut off

    • @djbr12
      @djbr12 Před 15 dny

      @@DarkM00n575ok but why is nocturnal crying like a baby about his tweet then? He’s clearly upset, koyful is way to good to be playing with these clowns 🤡

    • @jhmxk
      @jhmxk Před 15 dny +3

      Based off what noc said they team made a plan to announce everyone once the org made their announcement. Koy going rouge and making his announcement early fucked everyone else over.

    • @TrxMitch
      @TrxMitch Před 15 dny

      he said it was him fun and hod i dont see how this effects anything

  • @BadJokesBrian
    @BadJokesBrian Před 15 dny +92

    Realistically at least he’s being realistic, honestly realistically

    • @bwalsh1105
      @bwalsh1105 Před 15 dny +4

      And transparent

    • @realghostofdreams
      @realghostofdreams Před 15 dny +2

      sort of explains why he believes his own bs

    • @BruceWayne-wh4of
      @BruceWayne-wh4of Před 15 dny +1

      Realistic take honestly

    • @agitated_johnson
      @agitated_johnson Před 15 dny

      lol funny but i also get it, not having your thoughts together and trying to be professional for an audience, even though he was annoyed

  • @Nathan123..
    @Nathan123.. Před 15 dny +10

    Y’all got fired!!!! Why is Koy the only one looking for a job?!

  • @danielkunkler7293
    @danielkunkler7293 Před 15 dny +15

    Why do these pros act like they’re doing people a favor by playing? You’re getting paid a salary to play a video game instead of good knows what else…

  • @restlessjames1847
    @restlessjames1847 Před 16 dny +195

    I don’t blame koy, he’s locked on apex. He shouldn’t have to wait around for these guys to play the game.

    • @ryanlara4228
      @ryanlara4228 Před 15 dny +39

      Why is the youngest player one of the only ones who knows how a job works. If you’re fired you look for a new job, I don’t get noc here

    • @bryanalessandro16
      @bryanalessandro16 Před 15 dny +6

      he didn't have to tweet it though. He was going to play at LAN with ex-blackhand either way. Could've waited until after LAN.

    • @reeddean87
      @reeddean87 Před 15 dny +3

      @@bryanalessandro16 brother its simple. xset coudlndnt do it and he's too good for not good

    • @jhmxk
      @jhmxk Před 15 dny +4

      ​@@reeddean87it about being a good a person and considerate. Koy was going to look for a team regardless. Him announcing early fucks everyone else

    • @bryanalessandro16
      @bryanalessandro16 Před 15 dny +6

      @@reeddean87 koy was part of the reason why xset sucked. He kept counter calling and dying first. He's a good player but has a lot to learn still. There's more to ALGS than shooting your gun.

  • @rahuldevalla4176
    @rahuldevalla4176 Před 15 dny +15

    They excluded Koy from their plan to find a new organization, informed him about it, and asked him not to announce it until after they all find a new organization or team, leaving him behind as a free agent. YEAH RIGHT lol.
    Koy did what's good for him.

  • @CoderII
    @CoderII Před 15 dny +9

    Koy is also going to LAN lol

  • @aidanh3444
    @aidanh3444 Před 15 dny +7

    This entire rant by Noc about Koyful messing up their plans is incoherent nonsense. There was no NDA, Koy was no longer on a roster, no longer receiving a paycheck...... no longer under any obligation to play pretend for XSET. Why should he not start looking for his next opportunity to continue competing? This all comes across as some gross levels of entitlement.

  • @kodasuniverse9605
    @kodasuniverse9605 Před 15 dny +8

    It makes him look bad and salty when it’s 17 minutes. Should’ve just said how he felt and left it. Not talking about all the setbacks and what not. Just say your piece. Talking about retiring 10 min in. This should’ve been a quick 5 min video. Same with Wattson. My boi was talkin in circles for 20 min

    • @Pikkoroo
      @Pikkoroo Před 15 dny +3

      Literally, how are you gonna bash koy about this when you are gonna retire regardless having no passion anymore

  • @schribez6656
    @schribez6656 Před 15 dny +49

    So they were dropping Koy and expect him to stfu until AFTER lan why not let orgs scout his performance during the event and approach him there? None of this makes sense.

    • @jhmxk
      @jhmxk Před 15 dny +4

      Koy wanted to leave. He was going to lan regardless to get scouted of whether he made the announcement or not.

    • @rahuldevalla4176
      @rahuldevalla4176 Před 15 dny +3

      @@jhmxk Wouldn't everyone think that he's just subbing in for EzFlash for the playoffs and then would return back to XSET after if he didn't announce it?

    • @jhmxk
      @jhmxk Před 15 dny

      @rahuldevalla4176 the plan was to wait after lan for everyone to make their announcements. Everyone would have known he is not going back

    • @rahuldevalla4176
      @rahuldevalla4176 Před 15 dny +1

      @@jhmxk How would anyone know that XSET is no longer in Apex and that Koy is a FA if he didn't announce it? Rest of them were looking for an org as a trio leaving him behind. Koy did what's best for him

    • @jhmxk
      @jhmxk Před 13 dny

      @@rahuldevalla4176 My brother in christ NOC said this in the video. Noc said koy came to him and said he wanted to see his options which essentially means he is gone. Koy's situation doesnt change whether he waits or not. Koy following the plan would have been courtesy to his former team and he would've been LFT either way

  • @yashawal
    @yashawal Před 15 dny +5

    I miss the peak XSET era. The most funny squad to watch.

  • @OhJustCommenting
    @OhJustCommenting Před 15 dny +5

    koy should have definitely talked to the boys before tweeting that out if he knew they had plans. imo he should be announcing his free agency asap since he's good talent and it's not that realistic to keep koy away from offers - but he should have let them know behind the scenes first.

  • @highrofellos6721
    @highrofellos6721 Před 15 dny +4

    Ok so let me see if I get the tl;dr here.
    XSET cuts their roster.
    Noc and crew MINUS Koy want to seek a new org without announcing they've been dropped and ask Koy to also stay quiet.
    Koy knows he is LFT and is going to sub at LAN.
    Koy waits until JUST before the LAN starts to finally announce he is LFT.
    Noc claims KOY was being selfish?
    Sorry Noc....but you are WAY in the wrong on this one for asking Koy to stay quiet until AFTER the LAN just so you can try to get yourselves jobs while making him wait when he could be trialing/getting picked up himself.

  • @McVilla1N
    @McVilla1N Před 16 dny +14

    I Did not even hear about this....... Do what? Can't say I didn't see it coming though. And I honestly knew something was up all this time. Especially when sikez left because the same thing happened with gild and team liquid. This breaks my heart to hear but I understand completely. Game just isn't the same. It's clearly headed in a different direction and I'm watching a lot of people leave. Or come back just to leave again. Fun and Noc nothing but good memories watching you two battle through org changes and thirds. My dudes.

  • @bryanalessandro16
    @bryanalessandro16 Před 15 dny +10

    I like nocturnal and I was a fan of xset but he doesn't seem like he is built for this tbh. I think it would be better if he trusted his gut and retire. He should prioratize his mental health. It would suck to lose another top igl and mnk player though.

  • @tpd1399
    @tpd1399 Před 15 dny +9

    Making this kid wait multiple weeks to let it be known he needs a roster so these other two can live a lie and pretend to be on XSET is criminal. And then being mad at him for looking for a team is straight up childish.

  • @saucegotti9416
    @saucegotti9416 Před 15 dny +4

    Basically koy got a free ticket to lan. So he knows once lan is over he will be orgless. So announce to everyone you are looking for a roster spot to fill and hopefully he preforms good and easily gets signed. Other hand old xset missed lan and will not be too high looked after so most likely would play a long while orgless.

  • @jettoofastcw6465
    @jettoofastcw6465 Před 15 dny +11

    Noc wanted Koy to sit there and not be scouted at Lan from teams so that they can hopefully get a new org for Noc and Fun. Cool, good talk Noc. So selfish of Koy

  • @h8ydencha0tic52
    @h8ydencha0tic52 Před 15 dny +16

    Isn't koyful like 16? So it makes sense he would say this after them departing kinda weird but hes gotta do what hes gotta do.

    • @jaredg473
      @jaredg473 Před 15 dny

      17 but that doesnt change much lol

    • @voidtankage4289
      @voidtankage4289 Před 15 dny +3

      He’s still a pro, making excuses for him

    • @Vendredo.
      @Vendredo. Před 15 dny +8

      @@voidtankage4289 koy doesn’t need an excuse. Him looking for a team is perfectly justifiable. He doesn’t owe xset/ the team anything…

  • @Z3ro_two
    @Z3ro_two Před 15 dny +3

    But why would an org sign them if that org could sign a better team(legacy)?

  • @MoldySquidFish
    @MoldySquidFish Před 15 dny +45

    I still dont know how koy announcing this is effecting some sort of org transfer? Is bro yapping? I like noc but this is weird

    • @bigdogbustup9399
      @bigdogbustup9399 Před 15 dny +3

      this wasn’t meant to be public info yet I believe koy would have been simply announcing he is a free agent LFT but as noc said he hasn’t been transparent with the ex Xset lads

    • @adriandahlstedt
      @adriandahlstedt Před 15 dny +6

      Their plan was to lie to every other org and they wanted Koy to help

  • @jiminit1
    @jiminit1 Před 15 dny +5

    I can’t see how this announcement possibly fucks up there plans on either getting a new org or getting a third! In what way could this mess the plans up so much that he’s gna retire over it.

    • @Pikkoroo
      @Pikkoroo Před 15 dny

      Exactly he was gonna retire regardless, he rants about having no passion for the game like okay move on with your life then let koy have the apex spotlight since he actually has passion

  • @reeddean87
    @reeddean87 Před 15 dny +2

    BRO YOU COMICAL. WE WERE HERE AND WE LOVED YOU.

  • @Fzoul6
    @Fzoul6 Před 15 dny +11

    Nocturnal says when these roster changes hit his team that he always comes off as salty. After listening to this video he comes off as salty to me. Wish him the best but tough to listen to this for 17 min

  • @MrHoodieJones
    @MrHoodieJones Před 15 dny +4

    At the end of the day it’s a business. Koy might’ve not taken the best approach, but he’s one of the most coveted roller players out there.
    Also Noc may not have meant it, but it kind of sounds like Noc is salty that they can’t use Koy to get another org interested, just to part ways with him. He probably would’ve been the main reason an org wanted that team. To be honest.

  • @IamJacksColon4
    @IamJacksColon4 Před 14 dny +2

    With the backing that Noc had from several orgs and having the best team mates fun and the top 3 roller in the past 3 years he should have produced better results.

  • @realghostofdreams
    @realghostofdreams Před 15 dny +3

    Nicewigg loves everyone, as we all know, I love you bro, but he loves Nocturnal more and hates Xset more because of it. He said it on his stream

  • @kunalkeerodhur
    @kunalkeerodhur Před 15 dny +4

    Wait...so he isnt bound by contract and doesnt want to play with them...How is he to blame? It has been 2 weeks without org...why just not announcing the end of contract a day after? This is childish...Koyful has a big opportunity going as a sub for LAN...It was the best for him to be LFT..Why is noc mad about that? There were no agreement whatsoever..he even said do what you wanna do lol!!!

  • @nikithchengappa8405
    @nikithchengappa8405 Před 16 dny +18

    So Nocturnal doesn't even follow Koyful on Twitter? 😂

    • @imsc0pe
      @imsc0pe Před 15 dny

      that's his personal account I believe

    • @ryanlara4228
      @ryanlara4228 Před 15 dny +3

      @@imsc0pestill weird to not follow your TEAMMATE on twitter

    • @huhsaywhat
      @huhsaywhat Před 15 dny +3

      @@ryanlara4228 it’s just a way to isolate content feed. I wouldn’t want my entire feed to be apex gameplay lol

    • @ryanlara4228
      @ryanlara4228 Před 15 dny +1

      @@huhsaywhat fair if you don’t want apex content, twitter algo is weird like that

  • @pilkin5378
    @pilkin5378 Před 15 dny +3

    The comments are wild

  • @dakuuj6526
    @dakuuj6526 Před 15 dny +3

    I mean was their plan to get a new org under the guise that they still had koy? Cause how else does this really screw noc over..

  • @natemoss2026
    @natemoss2026 Před 15 dny +4

    Realistically

  • @jayscott9871
    @jayscott9871 Před 15 dny +2

    Business is hard 😂😂

  • @MADDcartman
    @MADDcartman Před 15 dny +3

    Conversated. Bro you are dangling retirement and being tired of playing. Says “show me the money” and maybe he’ll play? Marketing guru if you ask me.

  • @grahamhill2277
    @grahamhill2277 Před 15 dny +7

    You guys should go watch Nocturnnal's interview from Year 3 split 2 lan. This guy never really wanted to win in the first place 😂. Imagine Hal or Zero saying "I'm ok with getting top 5" Anyways I hope Koy lands on a team. Rough situation for him.

    • @tsuraze9085
      @tsuraze9085 Před 15 dny

      U should watch Koy too, he doesn’t care to win as long he is putting “big number” on kill leaderboard 😂 that fraud doesn’t care about winning

  • @leehalifax
    @leehalifax Před 15 dny +5

    Says he doesnt wanna play anymore but i have a very strong feeling that once he realizes what a REAL job entails im sure hell be begging for some other org to pick him up

  • @AbsoluteAtrocity
    @AbsoluteAtrocity Před 15 dny +1

    If nocturnal doesn't get another org offer he should become a politician because he's really good at saying a whole lot of nothing for 20 minutes while blaming someone else.

  • @Cold84
    @Cold84 Před 15 dny +2

    Tbh I don't understand why Koy would want to leave this team. Essentially, what made xset take this step back to not even making lan is the character and meta changes, the team works so much better in the last meta that they probably would have been a contender to win lan. With the history of success Noc has it would be hard to find another team that has that same pedigree, there is less than a handful of teams that I would put over Noc as an igl.
    I also don't get the Noc hate here, Koy didn't have to say xset was leaving apex lol. I get it from his perspective tho, he is at lan and wants to form connections in person like that, but at least let the team know you're gonna do this first instead of blindside them.

    • @ryanheidt102
      @ryanheidt102 Před 14 dny +1

      Koy most likely felt betrayed, he had offers from a good amount of different orgs, went to X-set and after one split they left and Noc and Fun and their coach didn’t have plans that included Koy, imo Koy probably felt he would do them dirty like he felt he was done

  • @TheGoldenApex
    @TheGoldenApex Před 15 dny +2

    This is so sad😭😭😭 I loved xset and now they don’t even exist anymore😭😭😭 Also this might be an evil though but it makes me feel better that they aren’t just pulling out of apex and that they are pulling out of all esports in general, it makes apex feel less targeted, and if apex doesn’t get xset, no one else does either! Still sad tho😢😢😢

  • @bleyaaa7653
    @bleyaaa7653 Před 15 dny +3

    Koy did the right thing. How can you expect a new hungry player to stay silent when the whole org goes away from Apex, and you are thinking of retiring? Noc has been always thinking about only himself, while Fun just tracks behind, which isnt bad, but when Koy does it, because he has a future here, he is a kid, he is in the wrong? Yes you are right Noc, you are salty jealous and whatever, but the truth would come out, whenever, however.
    Karma Noc, Karma.

  • @MrrrAndersonnn
    @MrrrAndersonnn Před 15 dny +18

    Koy’s post didn’t cause any harm to Fun/Noc/Xset (besides hurt feelings). Man’s upset for no reason

  • @cinnamonboy4266
    @cinnamonboy4266 Před 15 dny +2

    I get both sides tbh at this point i just dont have anything to say it’s just what it is

  • @kazino_v
    @kazino_v Před 15 dny +2

    love how he words it in every way possible other than the fact he wanted to drop koy and lf1 😂💯

  • @Mildsalsa247
    @Mildsalsa247 Před 15 dny +7

    To ppl defending Koy: he could have just said he was LFT without talking about XSET leaving the esport. That detail didn’t help him at all.

    • @paullopez7370
      @paullopez7370 Před 15 dny +3

      He said they left apex, not the esport noc is the one who leaked that in this video 😂

    • @tsuraze9085
      @tsuraze9085 Před 15 dny

      ⁠@@paullopez7370can you read bro? Koy literally leaked that Xset leaving Apex before Org even announced it

    • @Mildsalsa247
      @Mildsalsa247 Před 15 dny +2

      @@paullopez7370 literally the first sentence of Koy’s tweet: “Following split 1, XSET let us know that they are withdrawing from apex”

    • @ryanheidt102
      @ryanheidt102 Před 14 dny

      @@tsuraze9085crazy you wanna talk about him not being able to read when you couldn’t either 💀

    • @ryanheidt102
      @ryanheidt102 Před 14 dny

      @@Mildsalsa247learn how to read buddy💀

  • @bleach7958
    @bleach7958 Před 15 dny +6

    Im not understanding how Xset transferring only Fun and Noc to another org is a better look than them exterminating the roster in general. We’ve seen it before and from any angle, they left their team due to loss of investment. Sucks that Koy leaked this but I think they took Xset leaving too deeply and seriously. Either way they’re going to be judgement so why not just announce it like every team has

    • @jhmxk
      @jhmxk Před 15 dny

      There plan was to find another 3rd then get transferred

    • @mmhoss
      @mmhoss Před 15 dny +3

      So if XSET is leaving apex, as Koy announced without being allowed, that means that they're leaving anyways and the team will be dropped when contracts expire or earlier. That means that whatever negotiating leverage XSET has with orgs that that want to buy their team out, is gone. Why would the orgs buy out the team from XSET, if they could wait just a little bit to sign the team without paying XSET the buyout fee. Those transfer opportunities are gone, XSET misses out on the buyout fees and also looks bad because the news came out without them having any control over it, and noc/fun/hod are without a salary until they get picked up which seems unlikely to happen unless they get lock in a new third as a free agent team and do well in the next split of pro league.
      Moral of the story is that XSET should've NDA'd their roster so that this wouldn't happen.

  • @imaginativejay5941
    @imaginativejay5941 Před 15 dny +2

    its a dog eat dog world. Koy is smart, idc what anyone says cause at the end of the day, its all business baby, respectfully. 👌

  • @scole1448
    @scole1448 Před 15 dny +4

    Who would want to play with Noc? No matter who they pick up the team will not do well. They could pick up verhulst and Noc would still choke. Koy needs an actual IGL to learn from not some choke artist who can’t make a call to save his life. If DZ doesn’t do well they should drop sikez and pickup Koy. LG could drop slayr and pickup Koy . Can anyone name 1 team that would be better if they picked up Noc I’m genuinely asking????

    • @Pikkoroo
      @Pikkoroo Před 15 dny +1

      Especially when he rants about having no passion and retirement, would make a great teammate fs

  • @freakindarko
    @freakindarko Před 15 dny +6

    Koy is doing what he needs to do to be successful. Noc is just crying about it now that Koy did what he should do. He shouldn't have to wait for Noc and Fun to cook something up when it doesnt even involve him. Noc yapping.
    Also imagine crying about being a pro player. You get paid to play the game full time. Does he not watch literally any sport on planet earth? If you are a pro at anything then you are going to be put under a microscope. The best pros at anything can handle that and thrive in it. If you cant handle that then quit. I have no sympathy for this guy.

  • @glizzy6813
    @glizzy6813 Před 15 dny

    Ain’t no way Koy was staying on that team anymore. I mean anybody could’ve seen that. He was a good bit better than them and he’s locked in. He posted it because he don’t care what they thing obviously, even Hal and them said he was gone lol

  • @RorschDG-2
    @RorschDG-2 Před 15 dny +10

    I used to pray for times like these. I didn't like Noct, while it sucks for the others like Fun and Koy, Noct's downfall is great to see. The way he acts higher than thou, the way he paints himself as the victim even before all this.

  • @fragr33f74
    @fragr33f74 Před 14 dny

    Man, some of these Apex pros are just so pathetic. This guy being a pro and complaining about the scrutiny he gets...

  • @yourfavlifeline
    @yourfavlifeline Před 11 dny

    If the information was so incredibly sensitive that it would “ruin” people’s careers… why wouldn’t you have him sign an NDA. If he isn’t legally required to keep his mouth shut then why would he. If you want players to operate at a certain level of maturity and respect a gentlemen’s agreement, then don’t sign kids to major orgs. I have a hard time not siding with koyful on this simply because he’s still a kid and all the other people in this scenario are adults .

  • @ryanlara4228
    @ryanlara4228 Před 15 dny +8

    Noc needs to get over himself, he was more mad at koy here then he was all season. Koy didn’t do shit to you. If he got fired a month ago and is not being payed he doesn’t owe them anything, why would he not look for a new job??

  • @mikeossedryver8562
    @mikeossedryver8562 Před 15 dny +14

    Boo hoo... his more than allowed to look after him self... so fucking precious

  • @willheath407
    @willheath407 Před 10 dny

    If he’s depressed doing this then get out in the real world and get a job and see how much more depressing things are😂

  • @kennygutierrez8414
    @kennygutierrez8414 Před 15 dny +4

    Lmaoo some of yah are young af mentally n it shows. What Koy did was selfish 100% especially if he had a possible opportunity w/ a Orgs. He’s looking out for himself which we get but it shows his immaturity rn. Reminder even w/o this tweet he coulda spoke to ANY ORG n still leave w/o this tweet. The tweet did nothing but show he looking out for himself lol

  • @Mr_ReyesXD
    @Mr_ReyesXD Před 15 dny +2

    I would want to leave E-sports too if my team sucked for 2 years straight.

    • @tristenwilson
      @tristenwilson Před 15 dny

      Noc has had gild, sikez, and now koyful leave his team in the past couple years, he has had some of the best talent apex has ever seen play with him and has still been unable to produce results. Man should have retired years ago, he's terrible lol

  • @reeddean87
    @reeddean87 Před 15 dny +1

    BRO
    YOUD DO The same

  • @Caleb-jb3gv
    @Caleb-jb3gv Před 15 dny +4

    This comment section is the reason Noc anticipated being called a bad guy.

  • @DJKjr2911
    @DJKjr2911 Před 15 dny +1

    Happiness> depression and money.
    If you’re going to do something for the money, can you really complain about how sad it makes you? With someone who’s battled mental illness, I don’t care if you pay me 10 mil, if what I’m doing makes me miserable it’s not worth it. I got Jesus and people I love. Hope noc can make the right choice for himself. 🙏

  • @SeanTheDomesticTerrorist
    @SeanTheDomesticTerrorist Před 15 dny +1

    Theyre making plans without koy & he knows so either way hes out no matter what, theyre more or less just leaving him out anyway. My guess is they were in talks with other orgs(like they said) & then turn & drop koy first thing

  • @iiiuuj
    @iiiuuj Před 15 dny +4

    if you think you are tired from sitting at home working like 4 hours a day is tiring my guy go get a real job go do construction 9 hours a day and talk about tired i manage a entire building and do entire renovations on the side plus take care of my kids with their mom and then i gotta always walk and take care of my dog and the 68 other apartments i look after talk about BEING TIRED LOSER and no i dont work for 25 a hour i work for 8-10000 per unit i renovate plus my other job managing and cleaning the building fixing everything renting apartments doing all the maintenence alone so im making way more then this guy does even if he makes it to lan but hes tired man so tireddddddddddddd such hard work 🤣🤣🤣🤣 4 hour days vs 12 hour days and hes fkin tired

  • @mando.numba5
    @mando.numba5 Před 15 dny +5

    For yall who dont get it learn a bit about business.
    Nocs manager was working on a transfer. The leverage is "Noc is a top player on Xset, yall should buy him out. Have him join your org."
    Now they have no leverage.
    You get it now?
    Xset players get bought out and then xset is like "ooooo no everyone snag our players. I guess we will just leave apex."
    Xset looks chill.
    Now the whole plan is washed.

  • @trapz1937
    @trapz1937 Před 15 dny +2

    I understand where noc is coming from
    Koy couldve have patience, announced he was subbing for legends and then thats it
    He didnt need to make it public about xset dropping their roster and leaving
    Ngl tho they couldve made lan if koy wasnt on the roster

    • @Danny-zg5gn
      @Danny-zg5gn Před 15 dny +2

      Bro koy hard carried xset lmaoo he had twice noc and fun kills

    • @trapz1937
      @trapz1937 Před 15 dny +1

      @@Danny-zg5gn if kills matter then skrt wouldve qual faze wouldve qual

    • @trapz1937
      @trapz1937 Před 15 dny +1

      @@Danny-zg5gn alb hard carried skrt until he got frustrated
      Panderz hard carried faze until he couldn't no more

    • @trapz1937
      @trapz1937 Před 15 dny +1

      @@Danny-zg5gn kills dont matter
      What matters most is communicating wit ur teammates and listening to ur igl

    • @trapz1937
      @trapz1937 Před 15 dny +1

      @@Danny-zg5gn which koy wasnt doing
      If he wasnt countercalling noc, he overheated too much, died off rotations alot and was always the first to get knocked

  • @johnnysilver5866
    @johnnysilver5866 Před 15 dny +4

    Really sad to see how Apex community is degenerative to players health. People on the internet are SO THIRSTY to put other down

  • @glizzy6813
    @glizzy6813 Před 15 dny

    Why the hell does he have to wait for them?! Ain’t no NDA then that kid can do what he wants. Y’all mad because he’s going above and don’t want to be stuck with yall and wait for you?! Get the hell outta here and retire and unplug your pc

  • @tawilliams12
    @tawilliams12 Před 15 dny +7

    For people who don’t understand the business side of esports let me help explain.
    The Xset roster was looking to be transferred over instead of being fully dropped and orgless.
    To save face for Xset, players, and the incoming org (if they found one). These plans were being discussed internally already.
    So instead of these players being “fired” and “rehired” it would just be a transfer.
    Koy speaking out on internal business ruined the entire possibility of a transfer process for the entire roster and forced the hand of Xset to announce the departure of Apex Legends.
    If you look at the Xset social media posts comments and replies it’s all negative. Something they wanted to avoid.
    Koy jumping the gun was 100% unnecessary because he has obviously been working behind the scenes on his own accord to secure more playing time with other rosters.
    Just a bad business move on Koy’s part. That affects the livelihood of 4 other people.

    • @The_guy90
      @The_guy90 Před 15 dny +3

      They all got fired. There is no transition. Koy did nothing wrong. He's looking out for himself. Why would he look out for the guys that are about to ditch him on the next org.

    • @tawilliams12
      @tawilliams12 Před 15 dny +1

      @@The_guy90 I guess you have never networked a day in your life eh?

    • @The_guy90
      @The_guy90 Před 15 dny +2

      @@tawilliams12 keep guessing.

    • @Pikkoroo
      @Pikkoroo Před 15 dny

      @@tawilliams12even noc’d himself says esports is a wildcard with these matters

    • @tawilliams12
      @tawilliams12 Před 15 dny +1

      @@Pikkoroo true but that tweet could potentially endhis career

  • @bruceham6856
    @bruceham6856 Před 15 dny +4

    Koy wasnt pro in this situation, XSET take good care of the players , Sikez says that " i got everythnig i wanted" and you hear in Noc voice he have respect for org and dint wanted them to look bad . But Koy fucked all that up .

  • @ja-melinkee3776
    @ja-melinkee3776 Před 15 dny +4

    You’re a pro player in Apex that can’t win say a lot ! So why be a pro player if you’re not winning ? Being a predator player and pro play don’t mean shit ! All those badges all those kills don’t mean shit if you can’t win !!! So yes retire and go to a different game that you will make money in and win . You do it for you only !!! Be happy brah 🤙🏽💯

  • @ItsIceyyy
    @ItsIceyyy Před 15 dny

    TLDR: LAN Choker Noc: "WOMP WOMP WOMP"

  • @tee-boppin_em8147
    @tee-boppin_em8147 Před 15 dny +3

    Koy Does Not Look Bad At All actually you do Noc!! For Talking! Noc being a crybaby wen yall weren't including him in the roster/Big Plan So why would koy stay and keep silent that's how you get nowhere!! He actually did keep silent for a month! Long Enough!!

  • @Klutzy86
    @Klutzy86 Před 16 dny +5

    He acting like Apex is the problem, that is literally being a streamer you have to learn this

    • @Nablkr
      @Nablkr Před 16 dny +13

      Bruh this is what he’s talking about, the apex community is so toxic

    • @restlessjames1847
      @restlessjames1847 Před 16 dny +14

      Nah he just needs to man up, it’s a video game. Every community is toxic, apex isn’t at the top of that list.

    • @bleach7958
      @bleach7958 Před 15 dny +3

      @@restlessjames1847everybody has become sensitive in esports mainly due to the demographic being younger. They think apex is toxic but they never played prime csgo lmao

  • @ChameleonDance
    @ChameleonDance Před 15 dny +1

    Noc should be having this conversation in private, not airing him out on stream. 😅

  • @TM-knight
    @TM-knight Před 15 dny

    Hope he enjoys his retirement

  • @adriandahlstedt
    @adriandahlstedt Před 15 dny +1

    So he is mad at Koy for being an honest person? 😆

  • @Ashes2Ashes817
    @Ashes2Ashes817 Před 15 dny +3

    God my life is so hard I have to play a video game and possibly read hate on the internet!
    What a childish, selfish baby this guy is. Funny how I never had anything bad to say about the guy until he opened his own mouth. 🤡

  • @treejay3
    @treejay3 Před 15 dny +2

    koy is the best player on this team by far and they didnt do anything see ya!

  • @user-vf4oh1pd9t
    @user-vf4oh1pd9t Před 15 dny +9

    Opp pack in the fucking air this gas or what??? guy has tried fucking with peoples livelihoods over out of game stuff so often, I never pray on anyone's downfall except for Nocturnal

  • @efrainvillamizar6091
    @efrainvillamizar6091 Před 15 dny +2

    Koy is a commodity noc isn’t. Simple as that

  • @MuasX
    @MuasX Před 15 dny +3

    Pick up snipe and join faze

    • @TheGoldenApex
      @TheGoldenApex Před 15 dny +1

      Hell yeah!!! Picking up snipe is a free invitation to faze!😂😂😂

    • @killbuzbynow
      @killbuzbynow Před 15 dny

      That team chemistry might actually work

  • @jackeaton4298
    @jackeaton4298 Před 15 dny +1

    I’m sorry for Fun & Noc. Koy is in the wrong for this, I hope we get to see these 2 continue to compete. Would be a tragedy for Noc to retire

  • @edwardarias9575
    @edwardarias9575 Před 16 dny +16

    Personally I feel like koy was one of the main reasons to why xset didn’t go to LAN koy is so overrated imo. Sucks to see Nocturnal be put in this situation.

    • @ItsMadzHD
      @ItsMadzHD Před 15 dny +4

      he was unfortunately.. if you watched their POV, Koy was too aggressive, over-extended and would also counter call Noc. It doesn't help that the only professional experience Koy had prior to XSET was under Rkn, which pretty much was "give all the good attachments to Koy and let him frag out".
      Sikezz is crazy good, but he's not the sole reason XSET was the most consistent team in NA at the time. Koy is literally just a young kid suffering from controller brain and needs someone experienced to sit down and micro his every move.

    • @Bullimicporkupine
      @Bullimicporkupine Před 15 dny

      you know what a kills leaderboard is?

    • @Bullimicporkupine
      @Bullimicporkupine Před 15 dny

      you maybe want to look at player stats first? and then come back to delete the comment.

    • @edwardarias9575
      @edwardarias9575 Před 15 dny

      ⁠@@Bullimicporkupinedo you not know how to read ? Maybe you should learn and then delete your comment.

    • @edwardarias9575
      @edwardarias9575 Před 15 dny +3

      @@BullimicporkupineL

  • @kingkoopa654
    @kingkoopa654 Před 15 dny +4

    I’m hearing A LOT of “woah is me”
    These computer geeks are truly pathetic
    No type of resilience

    • @llwyd564
      @llwyd564 Před 15 dny +4

      lil bro said woah is me. 😅

    • @plorby7680
      @plorby7680 Před 15 dny +1

      You have to be a bot

  • @ThatOneCanadianKidEh
    @ThatOneCanadianKidEh Před 15 dny +1

    this the collapse of apex.

  • @NickMouras
    @NickMouras Před 15 dny +2

    So basically it is not koy's fault and is XSET's. Got it, then why do you blame him for wanting to retire? You say he is a child but you act like one. Maybe it is just me.

  • @funnycat3489
    @funnycat3489 Před 14 dny

    Stop crying Noc

  • @iiiuuj
    @iiiuuj Před 15 dny +4

    go get a job at mcdonalds gotta built that work experiance up ahaha CRAZY & SAD having no skills other then playing video games and streaming for the last 5 years you did the same thing to a new pro this week by calling him useless

  • @ricco_g750
    @ricco_g750 Před 14 dny +1

    womp womp

  • @lukereinbott364
    @lukereinbott364 Před 15 dny

    Koy choosing xset was troll as fuck

  • @vkp2211
    @vkp2211 Před 15 dny +1

    why is it selfish for koy to try and make himself look like a “better prospect” than noc? HE LITERALLY IS A BETTER PROSPECT THAN YOU LMAOOO

  • @mommysmilkers9518
    @mommysmilkers9518 Před 10 dny

    The brain rot in these comments XD

  • @PaoloMix09
    @PaoloMix09 Před 14 dny

    Never was a big fan of Noc and this adds to it. Come on… so Koy has to stay quiet for your own benefit? So the kid can’t do much or seek opportunities because you need to make sure you’re good first? He’s selfish? You’re selfish because you want him to stay quiet while you’re “planning” without him. Wtf lol, or did I understand this wrong. It just made me angrier listening to this more and more.

  • @ImmADeal
    @ImmADeal Před 15 dny +1

    I love Noct. I really do. Buuuuuuuut this sounds selfish on his part AND kind of like fraud lmao. Maybe Koy shouldn't have done this, but at the same time, you already knew you werent going to keep Koy around.

  • @Cpt.Hodges
    @Cpt.Hodges Před 15 dny +4

    bro the comments under this video about Noc, are fucking horrible.
    Koy made a tweet when he was not suppose to, despite making an agreement. Waiting 5 days wouldn't have hurt Koy, he's literally the most wanted player in NA, and he's got another chance to show off at LAN, but making the announcement has ruined noc's plans. Rightfully, Noc is annoyed. However, he understands that Koy is young so he's not mad, just annoyed at it.
    Also in no way was Koy being fucked over at any point, he didn't seem to want to continue with them, if he did he never made it clear, so they stared taking steps.

    • @paullopez7370
      @paullopez7370 Před 15 dny +2

      Definitely not nocs entire tone is jealous and envious he sounds salty that his career is on the decline while koy is a new and young prospect who is promising. They made the situation entirely beneficial to them while possibly hurting koys scouting chances, def think someone he talked to told him fuck that to post it already.

    • @jemail8746
      @jemail8746 Před 15 dny +3

      Dude, the Apex community is the worst. All of them are as toxic as they come. They are just a bunch of kids jumping from one pro player to another shit talking without understanding the game or what it takes to compete at the top. First, it was Mac, then Sweet; now, it is Noc's turn. No respect, for any pro unless it is Zero or Hal. I mean, those two are the goats, but being at the top in any field is a hard thing to do, and kids don't understand it.

    • @thedecoy99
      @thedecoy99 Před 15 dny +1

      @@paullopez7370 this is a brain dead take. Koy didnt have to say anything about xset leaving, he just could have said he was now a free agent. What is so hard to understand for you dumb asses?

  • @delusionalmule8759
    @delusionalmule8759 Před 15 dny +3

    of course the community sucks, most players use cronus zen and have no morals or decency and dont give a fuck about anybody but them selves, the same reason why ALGS sucks

  • @h4ngov3r71
    @h4ngov3r71 Před 15 dny +1

    I like Noc and Fun, I hope they will have still great time in Apex. Fu#k koy, he is just controller player, not important.

    • @djbr12
      @djbr12 Před 15 dny +5

      Ok this is an insane comment 😂 u need to get a grip on reality brother