TSM ImperialHal speaks out on what WENT WRONG with TSM & REJECT winning the ALGS..
Vložit
- čas přidán 6. 05. 2024
- TSM ImperialHal speaks out on what went WRONG with TSM & REJECT winning the ALGS..
Welcome back to another Apex Legends - Funny Moments & Best Highlights video. This series contains the best funny, fail, epic Apex Legends moments and top Apex Legends plays all submitted by the community.
justapexthings provides you with the Best Daily Apex Legends Highlights, Montages, Funny Moments, Meme-compiled clips from the community on the daily basis, we specifically pick the Best clips so that you would only get the highest quality highlights from the Apex Legends community!
If you liked this video, give us a thumbs up and let us know in the comments!
Enjoy!
If you would like your clips & video taken down, please send an email to: justapexthingsbz@gmail.com
#apexlegends #apex #apexclips
All Credits Really Goes To The Owner And Creator Of These Clips & Funny Moments!
Apex Legends (ALGS): / playapex
ImperialHal: / tsm_imperialhal
Sweet: / sweetdreams
Reps: / tsm_reps
iitztimmy: / iitztimmy
Hiswattson: / hiswattson
Stormen: / stormen
Verhulst: / verhulst
NICKMERCS: / nickmercs
Faide: / faide
Extesyy: / extesyy
Acie: / acie
Verhulst: / verhulst
Albralelie: / albralelie
Mande: / mande
Genburten: / genburten
Rogue - / rogue
Taxi2g - / taxi2g
Apryze - / apryze
Nokokopuffs - / nokokopuffs
Euriece - / euriece
Lululuvely - / lululuvely
Zachmazer - / zachmazer
Daltoosh - / daltoosh
NiceWigg - / nicewigg
Special Mentions:
@joebradyphoto (ALGS Thumbnails)
algs.smugmug.com - Hry
I agree Hal carries a lot of fights but his mental is so bad and he brings his teams down you could tell Evans confidence is shot and that’s mad considering how good he is.
He doesn’t lmao. He’s usually the first one down. Evan is the best player on that team. Hal is the IGL. They need to play their roles. Hal knows Evan is better too. He has to. Evan should definitely take bloodhound, especially as a controller player (speed boost legends enhance rotational AA)
@@henry3397 if you watched scrims prior to finals Hal was on another level he was getting an opening knock loads and getting 2 kills in a lot of 3v3s
@@IanJamesGscrims mean nothing, teams play completely differently
@@IanJamesG Bloodhound was SO OP last season though with his ult though - he is literally the only one that can see in a fight. Most instances you had Evan shooting through smoke, can't play consistently blind like that.
@@henry3397speed boost legends definitely don’t, slower movement overall is better for aim assist but bad against movement players
Watching Lan it just seemed Red Rams totally destroyed the boys confidence, they just got worse after those initial losses to them.
Even before red rams, They are not the same. They just can't win 3 v 3. I think this new season is not on their side. It didn't matched their play style.
I agree, I think their confidence was out the window, especially Hal. He's saying his teammates kind of let him down (in his roundabout way) here but I saw a lot of his POVs and it just didn't look like the same, aggressive, super accurate Hal
They haven’t been great since the meta change. Hal isn’t the same off Horizon and Verhulst can only play Blood or Valk. This is facts. Other teams got better and they regressed.
Noticed that as well his shots were super off in a lot of the games. Bro is usually beaming
@@buddhastl7120 Agreed!
This meta is all about man fighting, no horizon Qs, no seer and cat definitely changed the game.
Also I may be wrong this is only from my own perspective, They haven't adjusted well on their rotate. More often they fight with blue armors or if they have a great armor, they'll be on a pinch because of a bad rotate from collecting those evo harvester.
I mean, everyone has a good and bad year. This ain't over they'll surely pick it up.
With Nerfs to smgs, and No digi, Roller teams got rocked by mnk teams from distance.
DZ is still performing like a beast since their first LAN win and they have 2 rollers.
Smokes and digis are obsolete in the long distance anyway and it’s not like they've nerfed the AA.
Well if they got rocked by MnK, I guess you guys could stop crying about aim assist now right? 😂
@@apexcrypto01 The easy breakdown of why MnK hate on AA, is all these examplse of supergliding, tap strafing or hitting insane aim with MnK, PK shots, sprays etc. are VERY hard to learn and take a lot of time and effort to learn. - Aimassist is no effort, it's build in. - Yes there is still lots of stuff to learn on controller, but it's the same stuff MnK gotta learn aswell. - And btw, as Hal said, bang smokes and caustic gas meta = No AA in those.. so yeah there's also that coincidence.
@@user-xd6pe1rl1w There are aim assist in Caustic gas. I can't see the guy in the gas, and I still beam the guy 100+ with a Havoc. It's all aim assist.
A triple mnk team won the algs..time to stop crying about aim assist..it's obvious the people that keep complaining have a skill issue
They just played like shit. Red rams did damage
Meanwhile they got destroyed by ssg and most other teams when they tried rotating out. Tsm really lost to a team that specializes in contests.
somethin is definitely happening lmao
true
it happened already. raven left.
having 2 controller players and still losing 3v3 is unbelievable.
@@sameer8996 most of the fights were 2v3 since reps can only shoot from mid / far range
@@Massakakanacke Ravens contract was up, he woulda left regardless of outcome.
I never saw TSM practicing on TDMs and 3v3ing other teams, look at DZ and Fanatic for example... they always 3v3 and practice and they are the 2 best teams when it comes to fighting alone
agree dz will just roll you in a 3v3 no matter who you are, but there is still a chance to beat them if you third party them xd
@@sicarius1583 u can beat anyteam when u 3rd party sherlock lmao
Yup it shows
Change the title to Hal yapping
I definitely agree on the reasoning. They couldnt win fights, that much is obvious. A team's ceiling is hard capped if you're incapable of winning 3v3s.
The best example of that over the weekend was probably Complexity...consistently found themselves in good spots but it didnt even matter because they kept getting rolled in fights.
No sure why monsoon was so stubborn with their meta
Kimchi needs to go anytime I see them play he’s dead
Dude until Hal said this today if you mentioned TSM couldn’t win a 3v3 you’d get ratio’d by simpleton fanboys in the replies.
@@ivanmartinez632bro, kimchi probably had 2-3 kills the entire tourney
Rampart is so ass why they keep playing that character idek. They would probably win more matches if they didn’t use rampart. Literally useless. Not a single moment where her ULT was useful to COL. Her tactical was even worse than caustic/catalyst/gibby/newcastle
don’t think evan is comfortable on caustic he even said he won’t take a 1v1 cause the big hit box even tho caustic has fortified, it seems he often plays slow in fights waiting at cheeky angles which is fine but their has to be more aggression, and reps is a support player so idk
Yea. Evan on Caustic as a legend choice just doesn't fit him and TSM in general from the past two years of ALGS. They've always been more movement tech'ish. Horizon, Valk, etc. Caustic is so static....it doesn't fit what they've spent years doing regardless of Hal stating that "Others" made it work. Well you aren't "Others" play as yourselves not slaves to the "Meta"
It almost felt like Raven and Hal got so locked into Caustic/Bang/Blood as a meta that they couldn't even conceive of anything else.
EXACTLY!! Everyone knows Jordan began his career with Watson, and then Gibby, support and defensive legends. Why in the world is Evan, a pure fragger, on a legend that is meant for locking down buildings and taking space? That’s not his role.
I mean look at their rivals, DZ. Gen is on bang. Evan should be bang, Hal horizon/blood and Jordan on Caustic/Conduit.
But after today, I think they’ll be going back to Catalyst, and Evan on catalyst was also good. Just needed to work on the timing of his ult.
Yeah Caustic isn’t a character for Evans play style and switching legends amongst themselves in the middle of the tourney wasn’t helping I think Reps gotta go
@@highrofellos6721 bro evan became one of the best cats in the game. cat is very similar to caustic. they didnt have time to stick with something and train they keep switching it up and also having evan play caustic then playing horizon then bloodhound. all of those characters have different flows and if your not used to playing some its going to interfere with how you play.
Nah Evan playing horizon was a troll when Hal is the best horizon in the game, let’s all be real.
I didn't understand this either, they literally won last time Hal was playing Horizon.
Its because someone has to play bang blood comps or just swp the conduit due to contesting poi
Hal best horizon? Lmao cap
@@ilodabomb do you even know what your talking about? Or are you just bored and sputtering brain dead stuff.
@@ilodabombIt’s known and understood he’s the best horizon in the game.
There were definitely a lot of fights you would normally smash. Evan and Reps were wiffing a lot of close up shots.
Just a bad day at the office. To win ALGS all three of you have to be top of your game.
Jus super nice to see someone else win LAN tbh
There were practically no North zones on Storm Point, Evan kept dying early in every fight, they kept switching legends, and Hal made some bad rotation calls
I also think their rotation was bad. Dz knew how to rotate well into final zone
Who knew that a team from Challenger's Circuit, qualified through Preseason Qualifiers, played in their first LAN, Red Rams will destroy all hopes and confidence of TSM winning LAN 😂
Goes to show a lot of these new players are so much better than a lot of these “pros”
Look at Zach, he was getting SH*T on by o7
He was absolutely pathetic
O7 are not new players brother 💀 they've all been in PL since 2022 at least.
The moment e8 won the contest they won a match. You cant say they are a bad team 💀
@@thedogefox8939 how many times did they win the contest?
Evan can’t be an anchor. That’s the main issue! He needs to be up there with Hal playing a go getter player.
100% agree
he was playing cat last algs and was rolling everyone , he is experienced as an anchor player and was successful previously at it , him playing blood or an aggressive champ wont necessarily make them better , but he can for sure learn to play every champ at a top 3 player level
Deflecting on your teammates def means something is up
he said he did bad too.
lol he didn’t watch it I assume
@@hunterdavidson2502in a 4 minute long rant he said 1 time he made a bad call sometimes and blamed his team for 3v3s the rest of the rant
@Okdude445 did you watch LAN?
If you did I'm suprised you think Hal is lying.
@@Okdude445 bro did you watch the tournament?
If Hal is putting down a lot of damage first then dying and Reps/Evan can’t clean it up try the opposite. Let Reps and Evan push first to put damage and Hal can clean it up? If your main fragger is getting knocked first every time in 3v3 that’s an issue. They should also contest more. I’d even say go as far as flex dropping on anyone. Ggs
one bad lan. it happens. they should really stick it out.
Hal totally leaving out the part of him constantly going down first and over extending when he didn’t need to but yeah…
Been looking for this
Horizon one trick. Should have disregarded Raven and played Wraith like Dezign did for his playstyle of often overextending. Can’t do it on Bloodhound.
But almost everytime he got down, he had knocked someone else and did so much damage. If you actually seen the tournament you would not be writing that stupid shit. Damn you TSM haters are so cringe 😂😂😂
@@Kenla8989 Bro I watched the whole thing Saturday and Sunday and wanted TSM to win. They didn’t do well overall but Hal acting like he did everything is just arrogant. You’re on dick for what
Welcome to entry fragging. It's in the job description
Their rotates were horrible, hal multiple times took 2+ minutes to decide on r2-r3. Granted they never got zone. I just saw so much more hesitation this lan vs others.
They need a new approach to take fights. Evan is still one of the best aimer in NA but they cant find the right team comp to utilize teamfights
just sounds like he’s blaming his teammates for not being able to win a fight
never seen this dude take accountability ever
Everyone deflects to a point he just makes ut gery vocal@@joemama9479
Did you see them fighting? Hes right, reps is completelly useless in fights
But he was right. If you actually seen the tournament you would agree with it, he almost in every fight they got into made so much damage and and got knocks and they still lost 3v3s...
it's hard expecting someone to score that you never pass the rock to
Evan was always getting knocked first and they need a new poi on storm point, something in the south because zones are always there. TSM didn’t get one zone I don’t think
TSM’s coach had them all on characters that don’t fit their playstyle and at POIs that zones rarely pull towards. Hal overextends and must play Wraith or Horizon type characters. Verhulst must play Bloodhound or Valk. Other coaches knew that Lightning Rod never had zones pull its way. I can see why they’re not renewing their coach’s contract. I wouldn’t bash on the guy but he’s so cocky he deserves criticism.
Well said overall. Evan should be their main slayer, he’s more talented than Hal. Can he really not step out from under his shadow just because Hal is more alpha than him?
@@henry3397agree Evan is better than Hal
Wait is raven leaving?
if even is uncomfy on caustic well then he should put more time into bang and reps plays caustic u cant just want to play blood valk and cat only
Also the skill of their lobby is insane, if you cant cleanly/quickly win 3v3 the 3rd party is inbound to wipe you
ive been a tsm fan since the team started up in league but i have always thought tsm's success in apex was always skill *despite* hal's attitude instead of because of it
Way to pass the blame to your teammates. Like a lot of other people I, too, was rooting for you guys but damn man this is cringe. Learn to lose with grace and get over yourself.
Only fucking comment that has made sense here, genburten and zero are the in the same boat humble yourself and get better or be a bitch and blame everyone else for your mistake. Gen got over cocky zero started playing dumb and hal wasn’t listening to his team half the time which is reason evan was dieing trying to follow hals calls
What he said was true tho.
When you are a pro, ignoring these types of problems and not addressing it is an issue. There is little room for error when you play at the highest level of comp. that’s why you will never make it in the big leagues because Hal addressing the issue is “CRINGE” to you.
Soft
@@WhatssupYooHal kept going down first several times which is way outta character for him, but doesn’t wanna mention any of that…
Tbh, they just need to chalk it up and go next. Even if they played well, they weren't gonna win the tourney when they're contested almost every game, and i think the best zone they got all tourney was a staging zone. I also think hal needs some help learning how to not win. Since the skill gap is constantly being reduced, he needs to learn to get used to it.
4:23
How is Caustic gas a MnK meta thing? It doesn't cancel aim assist, and I beam people 100+ who sits in the gas without actually seeing them, with aim assist of course.
He is right. Ive seen hall down a player and do big damage on the other 2 players and still loose. Evan sometimes plays agresive and sometimes he looks like he is lost during the fights.
Seems right to me from the replays
The meta has gone away from the close range SMG a bit. Prowlers fire rate was nerfed(still really good), R9 was nerfed into the ground and CAR got a shadow nerf. Volt is still the only SMG in a really solid state. In the process weakening controller dominance. Maybe Hal might have to swap back to MnK.
Evan needs to be on BH, ESPECIALLY since he’s a controller player. Legends with a speed boost enhance the effect of rotational aim assist when speed boosted.
Imagine calling yourself a leader and then blaming everyone around you for your results.
did you watch the lan? Hal was frying and doing the most damage and getting the most kills every time. Was carrying reps and Verhulst hard.
@@nck_gg cap
@nck_gg ur riding hard on hal bro. Hal kept dying and funny u say that as the battlefy data proves otherwise
@nck_gg He's the leader of the team. With that he has to be willing to accept its success and it's failures.
I’m pretty sure we couldn’t win a 3v3, he also said sometimes he made bad calls.
Blames his team like he was playing well lmao
i think you just dont listen very well and look for a moment to shit on him but thats why you are in the comments and hes being watched
@@estfatul744 I guess I cant point out how he has a big ego and doesnt take responsibility without fanboys crying to me
also tell reps to play more ranked /grind the game more for improving instead ofhiim playing only scrims/comp
Bad days happen, nothing to worry about in my opinion, the greats can't be great all the time
We, our, team, he's not blaming his teammates he's owning his mistakes too. The destroyer incident wasn't too long ago either. Hal and DZ seemed like they were a bit off their game, tsm was just worse off 🤷♀️
This meta hasn’t been good to them and they still try to stick to the old stuff. Nobody on their team knows how to play caustic or Bangalore other than Reps
Instead of nerfing aim assist, they took awake roller advantage items and guns, lets see how they adapt
Evan's decision making is average
Big E not happy, give him Valkyrie and freedom
They need to practice playing 3v3 tdms against other pros, all hal play is ranked and it dosent help because yr just mowing down a shit lobby. All the top fighting teams always practicd tdms together why can't tsm.
Crazy a few days ago I said exactly what Hal is saying that their 3v3s were bad and the TSM horde of fanboys came at me with pitchforks in the replies
Bro when tsm wins he takes the credit and when they underperform he just blames his teammates. Just admit it that you along with your teammates played bad and move on. It’s that simple , You don’t have to throw shade on anybody.
We’re into year 4 of ALGS, the other regions have just innovated more and got better skillwise.
I wouldnt say he's lacking responsibility, he's taking credit for sure. Honestly feel what he said was valid
The new sesson hurt them trying valk in pro league just seemed like they were looking for answers didn't find anything TSM koyful you heard it here first boys!
Glad another team won regardless, 4 years with only 2 teams winning is crazy.
TSM was getting outplayed by others who could utilize legend abilities better. I still believe it's the legend composition not matching their playstyle that costed them this tournament.
One thing I will say is I don't understand why in a meta where bloodhound ult is so strong, why the hell didn't they have their only MNK player on that legend?
Why have a roller player on hound when their aim assist is gonna be disabled coz of all the visual noise?
simple Hal wants more kills and is used to being entry fragger but I thought Evan was a better hound but no way Hal would play Caustic
@@eMikerismHal would play bang sometimes but he was useless. I’d rather have Hal be useless than Evan though. Evan should 1,000% be on BH
3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3 3v3
Also their zone calling was trash in finals and through the playoffs and evan oh horizon thats was trolling hard, they didn't even practiced that and we know that TSM struggles a lot switching comps and characters. They could have use valkyrie only for early rotates + ballons and that would be a comfort pick for evan. I don't think they should change the roster still, they need to work at it and hope for the best on next season.
Like evan isn't a super smart player. The reason he Is considered top 3 itw is cuz of mechanical skill. Keep him on ONE legend. Bloodhound suits him.
@@spurscoys7385 😂😂
@@spurscoys7385 bruh mainly evan and reps played like actual bots def relied on hal for everything
@@Danny-zg5gnEvan played bad but reps did just fine. And Hal threw multiple games in the grand finals
I dont like how hal is basically the only one on his team who can talk about it publicly with no repercussions like im sure reps and evan would have some stuff to say because hals just blaming them without blaming them maybe hes told them straight but his isnt telling us straight
but isn't it kinda true tho, that lately in pro league, if hal is not dealing a ton of dmg/playing crazy, they would usually not do really well.
Any of them can talk, no one said only Hal can
@@Aaronxxi google "disingenuous"
Their 3v3s were bad but the macro was awful.
We get it Hal you can do no wrong EVEN when you were the first to go down and not take someone with you, your team should have 2v3.
100% this
Only calling out his teammates for doing bad. Didn't seem like that during the tournament, all 3 were doing bad.
Raven getting dropped/moving on is huge
Would hate to see the team split up if it were to happen but if it did, I think just off the top of my head I would like to see Skittle and Koyful join Hal.
I'm down for them to pick up Fun
Yeah they’ll probably get rid of Evan, or maybe both Evan and reps will leave, then eventually everyone will see Hal was the problem
Hal's excuse that it was his team mates would make sense if it wasn't him going down 1st every time
Did you watch the tournament the guy would do double his teammates damage in most fights, yes doesn’t help that he can’t stay alive but his teammates gotta do something too
Can’t believe no one else said it lol Hal is constantly the first one down. Throwing with the mozam against GRD was terrible
You clearly don't know how apex works. Hal is Agressive and does massive damage that makes him the Number 1 target in a 3 v 3 If Even and Jordan could get some damage on the enemies Hal wouldn't go down so much. I've literally gone 3 v 1 in ranked while screaming for my team to help. I dropped 2 and need to heal and my teammates are sitting behind cover picking their nose and not Capitalizing on the damage I did. That is exactly what's happening to Hal. He's getting Focused fired on and his teammates just are out of position to really help him
@@henry3397 because he's the entry fragger for the team, you clearly don't know how comp apex works so stop talking about it or get better
Hal bouta bring back snipe. That man can mentally handle hal
Raven had his place but its time for hal to take back over his team rather than listening and coping with what big brain thinks is right all the time. It hasn't done them good since last LAN truthfully, and even then they just played insane 3 games to win, the meta fucks with them everytime because they dont just play what they are good at.
gg reps was nice knowin ya
These comments were not made for us. It was made for the execs at TSM. Hal wants change. Obvious.
According to this videos, Hal just takes no accountability other than his teammates lose 2v2 almost every time?
Is that the actual situation for TSM in LAN or just his perspective?
Didn’t have time to watch the whole LAN myself.
TSM lost all their 3v3, they got rolled everytime.
let's welcome tsm koyful and tsm funfps guys
One of the biggest issues with apex comp is the amount of immature people run through the scene.. Hal blaming his teammate rather than taking the full blame knowing damn well the reason they sucked at lan was because of him and raven. They are one of the worst teams adjusting on the fly and they have no adaptability…
You do remember their last Lan win right?
@@snappyboi4124 doesnt mean much considering all the changes to the game since then
Wasn’t Hal lowest damage, lowest kills? Awkward
@@kuku335 you simply can‘t say a team that did ‚the‘ comeback has no on the fly adaptability.
I wouldn't say they have no adaptability. They just played piss poor for their reputation. This essential for a team: comms, aim, rotation-movement. Its why I can't grind ranked with toxic homies, cuz they have terrible comms, talk crap, and blame everyone else
1. I think it takes way more time to adapt being a edge team on SP from actually playing zone the whole time.
2. Not enough time spent/training spent how to play from Lrod due to multiple contests both in PL and LAN which prevents them to have good timers in edge play
3. Edge brings more 3v3 play than zone, which goes hand in hand of what Im trying to say in 1 and 2.
4. Respawn/EA released a statment already where they told everyone that they'll be using random zone/zone pulls due to it making it harder for teams to predict the zones, specially those who farmed zone data.
5. Obviously the team has been underperforming generally this season, even if they won PL, it wasnt a really well and smooth season. Me who's been personally watching TSM has seen flaws from all three players, but I'd like to say that Evan and Jordan has been underperforming the most suprisingly.
6. Lets forget about everything above and also that zones where not in TSM favour. I would say that every team has also got better to a point where it should be acknowledged.
Havoc is bursted but that charge up time on LAN was a huge difference
Agreed a lot of broken guns and controller players got nerfed with no configurations . Mobility is more important than aiming in this game , no config was a good nerd but ideally better to be mouse and key for now .
@@mr.hindsight3638tf u yapping about? No pro ever used cfg in lan
@@mr.hindsight3638yapping
"There no excuse " start making excuses that his team mates failed him. Why are people supporting someone with this type of mentality
He was carrying in every fight as the igl, no other top team does that. The igl calls and the other 2 go for frags.
You better go watch the vods. Reps and Evan were playing really bad... or should I say worse than Hal.
@@WhatssupYoo so instead of playing differently from his usual aggressive play style, because his team mates were playing different and he "supposedly" noticed his team mate were playing differently than usual. He didn't bother to adjust his style and just blame his team. Yup he is a great leader 👏
@@silverikov7 I like how you try, miserably, to twist things. They were not playing "differently" they were playing bad. Not hitting shots and going down without helping much... as a leader there's nothing you can do. You can't play for the two of them.
Let's use your fantasy argument too.
They played scrims for god knows how long, training rotations and all that then suddenly his teammates, as you said, start playing "differently"... how the fuck would be Hal's fault? But since we know that was not the case...
@@silverikov7 Btw, this is the last message you're getting from me. Now I know you don't watch Apex.
In other words what he’s saying is: my teammates are trash that’s why im leaving & finding a new team!
Huge fan of Hal but this was one of his worst takes. You can still play well and not win or meet their own "standards"
The lack of commitment to a plan/team comp is bad leadership. They can still fully commit to a bad decision and make something of it. But what I saw was hesitant decision making and not enough ego! A lot of that IS on Hal. You can have the games rings working against you all week, know that you likely wont win the game, but still scratch out decent games.
How they made finals is beyond me. This was TSM at their worst and they still made Finals. That says a lot 🤷
So basically Hal just said Jordan and Evan were ass and that he himself only made a few bad calls but was doing his job in fights. I think the meta changes and zone pulls definitely hurt tsm chances a lot. Also they just have had a ton pressure and raven isn’t cooking as hard with the strats.
Hal: blame everyone else, even though I'm the one getting knocked first.
If TSM fans heard this cope and blame shift from any other team or players, they would roast tf out of them. #17th
We'll bounce back boys. We always do
my man just wants to play a buff horizon lmao. he did said he will do anything for a buff
I don’t think the team is changing… I’m guessing they come back way stronger next time around.
No matter what I’m always with TSM
Evan has to be on the bloodhound. Put him on a legend that suits his mechanical skill. Hal needs a legend where the big plays can be made. Like bang or horizon. Reps needs to be on the caustic
Broh didn’t you see how bad he is on bang always get himself trapped in 1v3 and dies very quick
@@simonisdanilo3950 maybe cuz he can't play it yet
@@spurscoys7385 broh bang been in apex for ever there’s no way you can’t play her still
Omfg how can you be this slow. Reps has been playing bang. Hal never plays it.
@@spurscoys7385 I know but I’ve seen him play bang in scrims he told raven multiple time that he doesn’t like bang so that’s why he can’t play her and he won’t be learning to play her either and I’m not slow by the way just speak on what I know
Bro Just say it’s Evan’s fault don’t need to yap that long
You all did not work as a team like in the past. When I saw tsm winning, they were usually close enough to smell each others funky funk. At this lan, I saw Hal way out of position in relation to his team. Just a few observations here:
-You three seem do not seem to consider that even the bad teams now have the ability to play just as good as you do. You no longer get away with big dick plays, you have to play like normal human beings now.
-There WAY too much toxicity and bitterness in TSM. Hal is the main one but it has gotten to the point where its spread to the other two as well. Every single fight you guys lose, you just get sour and if you can, none of you hesitate to dunk on the others for mistakes. You are all pros and the most accomplished one at that, none of you need to be mommy nancying the others. You are all good in your own right, more than experience and do not need to be told when you make a mistake. You all NEEED to stop lashing out at each other to cope with losing. It helps nothing and makes it worse to the point in this lan where you all just fell apart in a bad way.
-Again, you are not dominant skillwise anymore, nobody is. When you lose to team x y z blah blah blah and think "Were better we should not be losing this fight", you're already fucking up no surrendering your damned egos. You lost, therefore you're not way better. To win, the solution is to make less mistakes and not just assume im TSM therefore i should win.
-You guys need more gameplans. They did not show much of you guys this lan, my guess is because it was toxic AF but it seemed like when your strats/rotations etc were not working, you would not change anything up the next game. You just did the same thing and expected a different result because TSM should be winning so we do what we want. Results suggest otherwise.
-Do you guys ever take breaks? Like idk go on a vacation with the boys are all on your own for a weekend or something. Put the fken social media away and defrag from apex for a little bit. If you're not, i would highly recommend doing so.
That's what ratting and preying on 3rd parties dose to your fight game
He is not wrong. Since the changes, reps, and especially Evan, are not doing enough damage in fights due to the smoke meta. TSM used to win a lot of 2 vs. 3s, not to mention they were a top 3 fighting team, often considered the best. However, with the meta change, Verhulst wasn't able to adapt to Caustic as he did with Catalyst. Reps hesitated about when to use smoke or when/where to swing, unable to play the anchor role he used to. Hal became very frustrated; he sometimes performed well, but his in-game leading became chaotic. We could see he was hesitant about rotations and taking fights, especially in LAN with the constant challenges, unfavorable circles for them, and of course, other teams improving.
But even with this being TSM's worst performance in a LAN, they still made it to the finals. Remember DZ in earlier LANs? The moment they lost their footing, they were eliminated early, but the boys kept pushing, swapping comps, dealing with unfortunate surprises, and a lack of confidence, etc.
I believe the new season will give them enough time and better opportunities to set everything back on the right track. Each of them is a peak player in the Apex pro scene. Mark my words, they will be BACK.
you are smoking rn, reps carried tsm that lan
Hal D rider spotted. Bro was carrieddd
Reps squad wipe 3 last game and them still dying says everything about their shot calling
@@frostxxbitex Everyone of them carried in some games, but all of them were just playing bad. Reps, Hal, and Evan-of course, they got single pops, else they would never reach finals, and that's not the problem here: who did worse than who. The problem is that these three are not popping off together at the same time like they used to. TSM in a pure 3 vs 3 used to be one of the scariest things any team would face. The other point is the rotation. It's true the unlucky circles and the change in pathing did affect their gameplay, but Hal's indecisiveness played a role too, coupled with their positioning in fights, made them easy targets for third parties-that's if they won the 3 vs 3 itself.
Reps carried, yes, there were games, but at the same time, there were games he literally messed them up. The fight in the silos, for example, in the last game-easy kill for the one Evan fought, but Reps missed all shots when he anchored. Same in other games where he got negligible damage output compared to Hal and Evan in some contests, etc. You're the one smoking if you watch some games and believe he did good. Using your logic, in the game when Hal started yelling "HOW HOW," he dealt a lot of damage. It was a sure 3rd party, but they still lost. You can argue they should have held there, but mostly they would get pinched later in that fight. Reps and Hal were lost instead of following him; they just pushed in open and got deleted by other teams and lost a sure 3 points and a better placement. So, who carried who if in every game someone pops off and the others underperform?
What happened in this LAN was due to a mix of old problems, unlucky circles, and lack of self-confidence from all three, and of course, Hal got higher blame as he is the captain.
@@any_one_else if every one of them carried they wouldnt be in 17th hate to burst your bubble!! 🥴
Best MnK meta because Caustic Gas - Winning team has Watson not Caustic
He never said they win because they had causti gas. Can you listen to listen instead of listening to respond?
Caustic gas and bang smoke make aim assist go away completely it doesn’t matter that they didn’t place caustic but almost every team has a bang and caustic which can make controller players non existent and that didn’t affect the winning team reject because they are triple mnk that’s what he was saying bozo
Best mnk meta if you forget the gibby days completely
@@Max-gc2yz I went to the firing range to test this and it isn’t entirely true. Bang smoke blocks aim assist for a short time depending on range and angle but Caustic gas doesn’t seem to block aim assist at all.
@@InceyWincey ur missing the point u think to one dimensional to ever be good at apex
tldr is they had some bad fights and it ruined their confidence all tournament so what you can’t win everything 😂 people in the comments saying shit about raven or reps being the reason just shut up and wait for things to happen. P.s. if you honestly believe this team will break up or tsm is leaving apex ur smoking rocks just shut up
Hal is just bad moral.
Anyone talking shit to Hal for calling out his dudes in those dog water 33 and 32 kill performances. TSM was trash and it starts with him not going God mode, but they had tons of clean 3v3 fights with no 3rds and his guys just flat out didn't get it done the way we know they can. Weird showing from TSM but grats to RC finally getting another team the crown instead of the same 2 teams. End of the day, can we get rid of Caustic and Watson. What a gross meta 😂. I'm missing the ginby bubbles and dudes flying around in the open field fighting to the death, now we just get smokes and toxic gas and people hiding by their watson gens praying to God the zone slows down... no more people "coming down from the heavens". We need HisWatson to turn back the clock and just run around murdering the whole lobby lol
They also got zero south zones on worlds edge 🤷
No rings pulled their way and the 3v3 was bad I know he doesn’t want to talk about the team and I know he has been there since the beginning but Reps gotta go he is the one who screws up the most
@raven here is the solution. Play Valk(E), Loba(Hal), Wattson/Bang/Hound/LL(Reps). And dont have a POI, just always land hotzone and win the contest. With Valk you can rotate zone and Evan wins all 1vs. With loba you win the contest cus you can find the golden guns for free and you get loot lategame. Jordan can fill the comp depending on what is needed. The boys have enough knowledge of how to rotate from what POI, esp on WE. Ez lan champ W
It's a good thing you are not a coach holy shit lmao
It's alot more strategic than that. You'd turn TSM into NRG really quick with this BS.
I kinda like the idea expect the contest part
With loba you’ll always have a get out free jail card will be great for a player like Hal who takes a lot of risk and Evan on blood could be the perfect fit for him
And Jordan on bang one ☝️ of the best bang in the game
I love it TSM fans letting everyone know how much they know apex 😂
@@a2g793 so what was the point of your comments??
ok but like, reps carried tsm so idk why any blame is getting put on jordan that lan
So, hes blaming Evan and Reps for losing 3v3s??
I mean if you watched neither of them were playing up to their standards.
I mean some fights they literally did 0 dmg and hal would down one and half another.
Reps is the weakest one by far and Evan is not consistent, he either pops off or throws. Don't take me wrong, I would rather watch TSM getting rolled every LAN than replacing Joran or Evan but Hal is right.
Most of the time when we see TSM in action during recent LAN, Evan was already on the ground.. It was painful to watch.
@@tomastylsar8995 Jordon needs to grind either rank or r5 his firepower in close range is terrible. 90% of mnk pro can shit on him 1v1
Tsm look bad
Hals all time great but he doesn’t take enough accountability
its cool hal is a 1 trick pony.. keep him on horizon!!! hes not a blood!!! hes a great horizon..
Swap reps for fun or Koyful and soar high!