7x m.2 slots, BUT It DOESN'T have WHAT!!!!??? 😱 | MSI Z790 Godlike Motherboard
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- Checking out a SUPER expensive MSI Z790 Godlike Motherboard - Any good for creators?
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0:00 cheap, CHEAP, CHEAP!
0:35 CCL Sponsorship
0:58 Why not get the RTX 4090 bundle
1:16 What you get with a $1200 Motherboard
3:29 Why the Motherboard is HEAVY!
4:33 The LGA 1700 Socket
4:46 It's an OC motherboard
6:02 Motherboard headers & Pins
8:47 7x m.2 slots
11:26 Power delivery
12:13 IO
13:05 HUGE MISSING FEATURE!
13:52 Lan Ports
14:03 Rest of the IO
14:26 Should creators buy it?
14:55 Why you need an iGPU even with RTX 4090!
15:20 What creators would love?
15:45 Where to get it?
16:02 How to not waste money on PC?!
Excellent info you have given which i never heard from any CZcamsrs. Not a single CZcamsrs said that this motherboard don't have igpu support which is totally worst and like bummer.
What's more "Godlike" is how much detailed and great quality this review is!!! thanks!! subbed!!!
Thanks for the sub!
Is there an equivalent Mb you'd recommend for DCC that supports QuickSync? I use Houdini, Maya, Zbrush, Resolve and much of the Adobe suite.
Very well done, nice review.
What do you recommend for a rendering machine that primarily uses "Adobe Media Encoder" apple M2 max or i9 13900K with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 GPU and 128 GB RAM?
I like the way you went through the motherboard. When it comes to streaming I believe those kinds of people should run two machines at the same for those that are doing LIVE PC gaming content. That way you can have one monitor just for the game and another monitor to read the live chat. If you want better encoding times a workstation cpu with quad to Eight channel memory would serve a person much better.
You can already hook up more then one monitor to a single pc to read live chat I have 3 monitors on my singular system and yes one monitor is used to watch chat and run the stream
I personally planing for years to buy a computer and wanted to buy exactly this motherboard. Now can you tell me, if the ACE version supports Intel Quick Sync? I cannot find anything about this and spent already a lot of money on the power supply (MSI P1300AI) GPU (MSI Spreme Liquid X) CPU (Intel 13900KS) and I wish to have the best board with DDR5 support (bought 6000 Mhz) and Thunderbolt 4. I do prefer with more M.2, like this board had. I just loved the idea of M-Vision and the 105A looks impressive, I been happy with the design, with the MSI brand, with the cool best-of-the-best ideology. Sooo disappointing to don't have Qucik Sync.
You think, should I go with the ProArt? I loved before Asus stuff, but I experienced afterwards driver and other issues over 10 years and I just don't know the quality now.
I like the lord of the rings reference ..."one board to rule them all" written on the packaging ..well I already have it and I don't think I"ll over clock anything .. It's already a power hog and as such is known to run hot ..jazzy two cents already recommends to under power it to get the temps under control...so I just wanted to know if a Noctura Nh-d15 cooler will control the heat or must I go to liquid cooling to keep a lid on this beast?
I was about to sleep when you uploaded that short. Knew that you would post a link to the video (This video). Imagine my suprise when it was set to private!
(Looked at the comments and I hope that the audio issues were resolved)
Have a nice day!
I want to build my new gamer pc, I've already decided that I'm going to use an i7 13700k and a 4070 ti, which motherboard would you use, and which ram memory, brand and models as well as the 4070 ti which model do you advise? hug
i have the MSI Meg ace z790 and i can’t find a video about it, could you do a review on it?
And if the processor has a video core, then how to connect a monitor from this motherboard without a video card?
Bro.. im a big fan your videos really add to foundation in the PC world. What kind of camera do you use for your videos? the quality is always on point!!
Links in the description ;)
With 7x M.2 are they all independant PCI ? If you copy from one on the other can they acheive full +/- 7200 speed?
would someone mind explaining to me what the “quick sync feature” or what it does exactly
another great video. thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
thanks for the review. you didn't get the gen 5 info correct though.
M2_4 slot (From CPU)
Supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4
PCI_E2 slot will be unavailable when installing M.2 SSD in the M2_4 slot.
PCI_E1 slot will run at x8 speed with when installing device in the PCI_E2 slot or M2_4 slot.
Also
SATA_5~8 will be unavailable when installing M.2 PCIe SSD in the M2_5 slot.
SATA_7~8 will be unavailable when installing M.2 SATA SSD in the M2_5 slot.
That's....a big problem. Better off with an AM5 X670e Ace ;)
Is there any motherboard that only have 2 dimm slots but can hold 2x64 to make 128gb
4:48 it most definitely is NOT.
An overclocking board is one that has only 2 DIMM dual channel configuration, otherwise you will never get proper ram OC.
hi! thank you ! Is it best to use gen 5 m2 as system disk? or better use gen 4 on this motherboard?
Literally my question
@@MegMasterCR7 sequential bandwidth doesn't matter for typical workloads, it's random iops you wanna watch out for. If you have the money for it, I would suggest Intel Optane drives.
Thank you
Why not get a simple PCIe to M.2 if you don't have enough storage?
Gpu would probably drop to 8x instead of 16x
No IGPU support, at least we have Intel arc A770 High End GPU... Why not we using RTX4090 as Gaming while A770 as Video Editing & Cad Workstation? While Thunderbolt is not possible connected to monitor due to IGPU support, Let's say, it only work for storage drives.
when we have 3 and 4 slot cards as the standard why are there only 2 PCIE slots.
SOUND CARDS.
CAPTURE CARDS.
CAMERA CARDS.
WIFI CARDS.
etc. etc. all need a pcie slot.
Your videos are so good
So is your comment!
finally bought it
When will we see a dual graphic card set up and test ? I've got two GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3050 OC 8G's sitting around. What single graphic card would they be equal to in a dual setup, if you had to guess ?
the RTX 3050 doesn't have SLI support, also the days of SLI is over
am looking forward to get a maximus extreme.. was about to turn to this one.. but the no i-gpu thingy turned me back to maximus
Dont do this mistake, Maximus extreme share Gen5 m.2 lane with your graphic card which is a big issue, they dont offer a free m.2 gen5 lane but steal it from your GPU , so instead of your GPU running on x16 once you plug your Gen5 SSD the GPU will be limited to x8
Godlike is the only mobo available now offering a Gen5 m.2 lane not shared with your GPU.
And read my previous comment, who says i need IGPU in 2023 its like someone stuck in the 90s and just woke up. there is nothing that iGPU can do which GPU doesn't.
Nvidia support H.264/HEVC decoding, and H.264/HEVC encoding which is much better than the intel encoder
@@aber6441 thanks a lot for your insight
I’m glad I got the MSI MEG Z690 Unify for $400 with 5 M.2 slots, and the ability to use the igpu from the CPU 😤
Unify or Carbon? Afaik Z690 Unify has neither internal dispaly output nor power delivery for the igpu
For overclocking though, i would pick the evga classified or dark series anyday. Msi mid tier motherboards are really good though like the mortar and tomahawk series . And as for creators, Asus pro art is unmatched.
I donno man, after experiencing msi after sales service first hand, i will always tell people to never buy msi
@@weeezy3028 agreed man, they dont bother replying to emails
MSI boards have better thunderbolt support. If you want to retain your data and you want proper thunderbolt support the MSI boards are the best at that without building a giant NAS. The advantages of thunderbolt allow you to have speed and external storage.
@@weeezy3028fact fact fact
Why would you include 8 sata cables on a board with 7 m2 slots and 6 sata slots...
5 seconds in and I already have a craving for a cohiba....
I'm rolling my eyes with a no IGPU support. I certainly understand Quick Sync video acceleration but I can't tell you how often it happens where you have a GPU issue and you have no screen without an IGPU or another GPU handy to test. This is a terrible decision by MSI. The one thing that I did like that they did is the m.2 isn't sharing bandwidth with a PCIe 5.0 x16 to the GPU which is exactly what my ASUS Extreme does. I think a better choice would have been for them to share or turn off the SATA ports.
Agree with the first part, the second part is an impossibility. All z790 boards only have 16 pcie 5 lanes, they are all also taken up by your gpu unless ur sharing them. The manual of the asus extreme(page 13) literally shows the configurations with the gen 5 ssd installed. The first slot goes to 8x, the second slot doesn't work at all and u now have an ssd running gen 5x4. Ur gpu is running at 8x mate...
@@Frozoken .. You read what I said backwards regarding the m.2. I'm crystal clear what happens if you use the 2nd PCIe 5.0 slot x8 / x8, but if you use an M.2 in the M.2 PCIe then the 1st PCIe goes x8 and the 2nd PCIe is disabled (effectively x0).
The dumb part is there's no smart PCIe switching or bandwidth conservation. For example if your GPU is x16 PCIe 4.0 (same as x8 PCIe 5.0) it's all by lanes than conservation of bandwidth and there's no bios override setting to control that feature.
@@Frozoken .. Let me add this. The dumbest thing is having PCIe 5.0 on an m.2 SSD with 4K Random is as slow as it is in comparison to even PCIe 3.0 much less PCIe 4.0 capable m.2s. Having 14 GB/s M.2 as when there's effectively no 4K Random (real world) increases makes no sense. I mean it makes sense from a useless benchmark but that's it.
@@DJaquithFL Mate that's not how it works, your gpu does not support pcie 5 and as such there's no conversion, that's why lane count is always an important factor. For your gpu to even run, your motherboard has to effectively downgrade itself to pcie gen 4. Do you not think if such a thing was possible, it wouldn't already exist. We could literally run 4 2080ti's from a gen 5 x16 slot all at full speed.
@@DJaquithFL Oh yeah and my bad, I did read what u were initially saying wrong I'm a dumbass sorry lol. I've also gotta agree that the gen 5 slot is so useless especially seeing ur only getting one ssd out of it.
Edit nvm, I confused what u said because this board does infact do what I assumed and offers a gen 5 slot which shares bandwith with the gpu.
Hello, hey, but do you think it will be useful for rendering engineering programs, such as Cst Studio, AUTOCAD, and also for games? Or is it important to have the igpu of the processor to perform these tasks?
see my reply on the top
How does it compare to a ROG Z 790 Maximus extreme?
i would also like to know how does extreme compare with proArt
@@PrashantVideography dont go for proart or any motherboard that does not support gen5 m.2, otherwise in few months when gen5 m.2 comes out you cant use it and will be forced to upgrade your mobo, will be waste of money
What is the Best Bang for Buck Motherboard for the i5-13600k ?
Tech Notice when you comparing GPUs for video editing, why you never put export time on test?
I do :) it's done on the export score under Pugetbench for Premiere Pro or 4k/8k score on Pugetbench for Davinci. So you see the export not in minutes but in percentage.
@@theTechNotice oh 🙆🙂
Now I have to rewatch all video again
Still waiting for a dual graphic card set up and benchmarks
But are there enough pcie lanes to manage all those m.2 SSDs?
Nein
Tech Godlike
How do you know if the MB supports iGPU with power? I'm about to make an intel rig and would hate to find out later my iGPU isn't being used or powered.
the Asus version has igpu support, but then they don't put in GPU Pass through! you cannot win! cause i want 10gbe built in with thunderbolt 4, and that is always high end option.
I nearly fell for the Asus ProArt z790 marketing, I came so close to buying one.....and this MB is even worse...The marketing department are really good at making us feel we NEEEEED this....*cough* we don't.
what marketing do you mean for the z790 proart?
@@lence2775 The words 'pro' and 'art' marketing means they can charge a premium. - it does look nice, but, aesthetics don't make a system run faster.
You should consider wearing gloves when handling these shiny PC components. Some parts looked like you ate fries before touching them afterwards.
There's Threads Online Saying If You Have The 13-14900KS You Can Use iGPU W/ This Board... Don't Know How Factual It Is But Its Worth Researching... Amazing Video As Always🔥
How do you tell if the mobo can support igpu or not.
It has a hdmi/display port on the board at the back, also the CPU is dependent of the CPU has onboard graphics then the HDMI/DP port will work. If Ur CPU does not have onboard graphics then the HDMI/DP port won't work
The motherboard will have a HDMI/DP port on the back. But if the CPU DOESN'T have onboard graphics then HDMI/DP on the motherboard wont work.
Cries in mortar 😂
5 ddr slots??
what's the point of buying this z motherboard when there's isnt enough pci chipset lanes in it. one shud go for HEDT set-up
and where would we find new and current HEDT?
@@Lonestar166 i mean if you have the money for godlike z790 ... one shud go for hedt amd threadripper 5995wx .
i have z690 tuf wifi plus which is already over built n plenty for i9 13900k
Have it. Its very powerful. Worse aspect…. Every time you update the bios, you have to reactivate windows
I would like to see a build with this board
Worst motherboard for creators.
Excellent info you have which i never heard from any CZcamsrs. Not a single CZcamsrs said that this motherboard don't have igpu support which is totally worst and like bummer.
kinda.... it's like putting a massive F1 engine on a Smart car, it's un drivable :)
@@theTechNotice
Excellent info you have given which i never heard from any CZcamsrs. Not a single CZcamsrs said that this motherboard don't have igpu support which is totally worst and like bummer.
The new RTX 4090 super duper super duper super duper ultra boost OC 🤣🤣
Honestly a shame they don't have iGPU support...
When I found out EVGAs overclocking board didn't either it was a deal breaker for me.
Instantly returned it. Shame. Thing was killer other than that.
This board is well out of my desirable price budget anyways I suppose
I don't use my iGPU for the encoders/decoders as much as I do for Virtualization of software so I don't have to dual boot Windows + Linux.
It's as much a deal breaker there as unless I want to take a PCIe lane for another GPU and further upgrade my PSU, I can't use my main desktop while using the dGPU for Virtualization
What are you talking about? Both of the EVGA Z790 boards support it. They just don't have HDMI or DP outputs. They use USB-C for that. You might have to buy an adapter for it.
@Alexander Dinebier
z690.
Take a moment and go onto their forums to look at the z690 K|ngp|n e699 kr comments, "How do I enable my iGPU" is asked at least 3 times as of when I had the board, maybe more now
Definitely puts the z790 in a more favorable light if it works on that....
Though I've already went for a different board so off the table for the foreseeable future for me, maybe next time or down the road when they get cheaper.
@@JustifierSorry, i though you were talking about the new boards. Didn't look for Z690. Would be nice to know when EVGA finally starts selling them im europe. That's the reason i can't continue my build atm. That Z790 classified would be perfect for it. So waiting is the only option.
@@AlexanderDinebier
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All good my dude, I've been wrong about hardware before and I will be again in the future. So any critiques if someone thinks I'm wrong are always welcome
In this case though I've had hands on and spent a good 4 hours combing settings and forums and the user manual specifically trying to get that working so I'm fairly confident in that.
Would be very depressed if it turned out to be just disabled software and updated down the road because I did get a *very* good deal on the board, and dang was it ever nice from looks to layout to software 😅 but according to the comments on the forums the iGPU is not even electrically powered so if that's the case, software side fixes are an impossibility
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this is more expensive than my free house under a bridge
Cheap ..?
Only 2 pcie sounds like a missed opportunity. Have 2 u. 2 cards and this won't work. If already it had u. 2 native connections, nope...
Better off with an AM5 MSI X670e Ace ;)
For me as an average Algerian watching a video of unboxing *MEG Z790 GODLIKE and RTX 4090 Supreme X* is like you Americans watching a video of unboxing a supercar 😅.
It horrifies me that you are holding a $1000 motherboard and touching the pins with a pen.
Steve will say it's a affordable Motherboard
Welcome to $1000 club.
Goodness me GODLIKE ma ma gawwwwwd xD 🥴
We need a i9 13900k + 4090 build with this MB 😅😅
Whats it missing?
iGPU output
Z690 Godlike : Psh, Z790 Godlike, 1199 dollar? cheap.
*Z690 Godlike cost like 2 grand*
Ahhh!!! 😭
For this mobo with all those ssds you’ll need a threadripper cpu to have enough pcie lanes 😂😂
Why do they put so many m.2 slots when the 13th gen only supports 20 pci e lanes. Assuming the person buying this board will have a graphics card as well 🤷🏻♂️
Z790 chipset :)
@@theTechNotice but doesn’t the motherboard can do what the cpu supports? 🤔
It’s not perfect. Some compromises were made and the price is not reasonable. No thank you.
Bro said cheap💀💀💀💀💀
Would this run Roblox?
trust me this will
anyone with a K chip CPU would have a Gpu, anyone who doesnt have GPU with this board would need there head testing lol
not sure if you know how important iGPU support is for video editors :)
This is definitely overkill well for me don't about him though
Oh yeah definitely for me as well!
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So, if you remove shiny (useless) display, usb stick, put regular sata cables, and remove ridiculous metal backplate (in what conditions back of the motherboard require cooling 🤔) you'll get regular 500-600 € worth motherboard. Without iGPU support 😁
bro you uploaded this video a while ago but the moment i clicked it went pvt 🙄
I know, it had some audio issues and had to reupload... 😇😇
@@theTechNotice okay . okay. no issues 🙂
Hey hey hey
hey!
What a waste of money.
At this point you can go for Asus strix z790 or maximus and a 4070ti
14:57 Z790 ACE is better lol
I was soo early to this vedio , it was set to private 😭
sorry bro, had some sound issues and had to reupload :)
same 🙄
@@theTechNotice Ah i see , understandable : ) , Great Work asusual !
To me there seems to be 4x ddr5 slots not 5x. LOL
Is this eatx motherboard
Yep
@@theTechNotice thanks for the reply back
@@theTechNotice I do have a question im using a b660m tomahawk wifi ddr4 how long should hold that for until I get a new cpu most likely 14gen mine is compatability for 13gen also
Ain't No Way This Exists.
yep.... :)
Ok bad thing with igpu
That board don't have 5 ram slot.
He is the worst lol
Motherboard designers are really out of touch with reality. Why do they always stuff so many SATA ports on them? Who still uses SATA, especially someone who would spend $1200 on a motherboard... and who are the idiots who spend so much money, and how can I get in on the scam too?
Nvidia should match if not exceed igpu performance to overcome this issue.
What happens if your PCIE slots aren't working down the road? Happened to me when I one day powered on my system and realising that it wouldn't post, unless I take out all of my PCIE cards out, including the dGPU.
I never thought about that. Interesting. I think failure can happen at random though and it can also happen on the integrated graphics.
people listen to these people who don't know each other at all and talk nonsense there, like in this movie
Why do you talk in dollars? you should be proud to be British. There are loads of US reviewers, if your US audience want to watch your channel im sure they can work out to check their local stores for prices.
Imagine if i bought motherboard 1200 usd because it have 6 m.2 slots 😂😂😂hi evga
800$ cheap?! Yea ok
So expensive MB and I see USB 10Gbps only on the back :D sorry this MB is scam... (is 2023, I am looking for 40Gbps ports) + no iGPU support is scam no.2
Godlike is just nothing but a ridiculously expensive motherboard. Not something anyone should get in the first place. And who need 7 m.2 slot when most of the time we only 1 or 2 and get large capacity hard drive for data saving instead.
As for Quicksync, even if it's available, it's a hassle to open it anyway. I mainly used software rendering for most video stuffs and using GPU for encoding always make the quality dropped, not by much but still.
1:09 13:00 14:55 15:08
Never 😂😂😂😂
Cheap? Wtf are you talking about.
Had to go and get more tissue for the "drool" this has caused! IMO ... Anyone investing in this platform shouldn't care about iGPU support. Why ... when you should be running a top tier pair of 4090's or the like. I want 1 for sure .... just for the "tech of it" all.
I agree. This is one of the most impressive mobo’s out… just some people get caught up in trivial things like igpu.
Wit the 4090 u don’t reall need igpu
As a video editor, yes you do ;)
Dude I’m not watching a 16min video