How to Make Your Car QUIET & Comfortable - Toyota Crown Wagon Assembly
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- čas přidán 5. 05. 2022
- Today on The Skid Factory Woody & Al Hook In to get the 1987 Crown Wagon Sound Proofed and Re-Assembled in preparation for a trip up to the shed where we can rip into the engine bay and give the wagon some more horsepower!
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How good would it be if a local craft brewery got on board with a colab to do a Skid Factory “Lemon Squash” IPA or a Sour Mash. Those lemon Squash shirts look cool.
Call us! 😂😂👌🏻
shame there’s a shortage of craft breweries round here
Surely the eumundi brewery could get onboard
No thats shit drink
Eumundi already did a Lemon Squash beer.
Putting a Barra in would lose it “smicko” status. Turbocharging the 1g would elevate its “smicko” status to a whole new level. Would love to see a 1G-GTE build.
Full old-school MCM vibes when woody pulled onto the driveway (and wearing the MCM top to boot!).
Just needed him to say "first step, jack up your car".
Love it!
First step, stock the fridge with Lemomsquash!
Hi Woody, Al, been watching since the launch of your channel. Loving it, thanks guys. Keep it up!
I'm an in-vehicle sound quality enthusiast and would like to offer some commentary
1:51 as you knock on the roof you can hear the panel resonance. the material you used on the rest of the vehicle is critical to apply here!, as it weighs down the sheet metal and prevents panel resonance from happening. the product you used, insul-layer is supposed to go overtop that being a closed cell foam, futher deadening any transferred waves or waves from inside the cabin. closed cell is usually topped with a layer of open cell foam to break and capture the waves from inside the cabin.
Al mentioned as well-- those beams are what they use from factory to essentially section the roof and make the surface of the roof sheet metal smaller, as it ties to the beam there, and thus the possible surface area for resonance to occur is smaller. i would recommend glueing it back to the sheet metal of the roof.
5:20 it's recommended you leave the product in the sun for a while or heat it up with a heat gun so it becomes more malleable and the adhesive binds better to the surface. contrary to some comments, car builders and many other quality brands are not butyl, but a special compound and adhesive. do not use roofing tar or butyl inside a vehicle!
it is also essential to use the roller wherever you can to ensure the adhesive binds to the panel and countours. pushing it down with your hand is not sufficient.
you also need to degrease the surface you apply this product to and ideally have it as smooth as possible.
6:26 if you place the subwoofer in the back or boot it will work much better. you will achieve a lower response and have to push the subwoofer less for the same output, due to cabin gain and corner loading.
the headunit you have purchased does not have TA unfortunately. this is vital to ensure speakers don't cancel each other out causing dips in the frequency response and for any offset listening position, like the driver seat in a vehicle, to ensure that the stereo imaging is correct.
not to knock it but I would recommend swapping it for a unit that does have DSP with TA so you can use only 4 speakers and the subwoofer on RCA, being fully in control of each speaker to TA them. or even better, purchase an amplifier or standalone DSP with individual channel parametric EQ and TA.
the front speakers can be the coaxials you have installed, but i would recommend having the rear doors only play low frequency and then the subwoofer taking over for the lower range. you will be able to achieve a very decent and stereo correct sounding system that way.
Car builders has an amazing CZcams channel, I would highly recommend everyone to check it out if you're interested in improving the cabin NVH and heat insulation.
If anyone is interested in quality stereo installs I would recommend 5 star car stereo, and for more advanced and real SQ, pssound. Amazingly informative channels.
Cheers from the Netherlands
Good intel mate.
Woody, Al, if you get to read this hopefully I put it in a way it might spark your interest more, and maybe others reading it that have a good understanding of electronics. we are using electroacoustic transducers (speakers) to produce a sine wave from 1hz to 20khz in an (for the most part) airtight cabin; the vehicle.
with Time alginment and why it's necessary, what we need to achieve is each transducer playing "in time" or in phase and pressurizing this cabin with sound waves, arriving at the listening position (driver's seat in this case) at the same time for the best stereo recording reproduction. if the transducers do not play in time the produced waves can and will hit each other, cancelling out one another by breaking and bouncing off the waves, causing less output, dips in the frequency response and not pressurizing the cabin. adding more uncontrolled speakers only increases this problem.
we want to be able to control each individual transducer's time of producing the sine wave so they play in phase and there is a summation of all waves combined, which increases output significantly and is the only way to have any stereo 'sound good' in a car.
why we want to Equalize each speaker is being able to control it over the entire frequency range (1hz-20khz) it is going to produce a sine wave. a speaker will rarely play at the same output level over this range by itself, but due inherent problems with the shape, surfaces and size of a vehicle cabin this 'problem' only increases.
we need the speaker to produce the sine wave at an even volume over the entire frequency range in order to playback audio recordings correctly.
a car is an interesting but rather easy environment to play with this. the technology to do all this (DSP and measuring microphone) is affordable nowadays. the simplest of DSP found on many headunits allows you to TA which is required, as well as allow you to equalize the the total output of all speakers.
I'd suggest to anyone that's interested in car audio and likes listening to music to have a go at this. it will make a world of a difference doing this right.
have fun, cheers
@@hookervomit8376 again, premium intel mate. Also username on point
Heaps of tips here man cheers! As I mentioned I’m not an audio guy but I can appreciate a nice stereo, compared to what it was standard it is A LOT better! The Sub may get moved to the boot but I have plans to mount other suspension related components here 🤔 maybe one day we’ll do an all out stereo install and get someone to help us out who knows what they’re doing!! Car stereo systems seem to have died compared to 10 years ago, people
Used to go spending 10G on an install!
@@theskidfactory No worries, hope it helps.
I'll bet it sounds way better than what used to be! plus the benefit of bluetooth and connecting your phone with carplay or android auto, not getting fined. and shaking your passenger's bottom with the sub 😆
Very nice! I'm curious to see what suspension and further mods you will be doing and posting here.
Car stereo systems as we knew them during sexspec days is pretty dead, for better or worse. Many of them were a hot mess of throwing as much speakers; cone area and wattage to hopefully produce some output. Lots of them looked fantastic though!
Most of what's left from my experience is bassheads with SPL systems, very popular in the US (see exocontralto, jacobviral, steve meade, or wacko 'soundman car audio' on CZcams). some Sound Quality guys like myself and consumers looking to improve ease of use in often older vehicles and hopefully make it sound a bit better over what used to be.
Since the turn of the millenium most car manufacturers' engineers know what type speaker to apply where with the correct thiele smal parameters. Nearly all modern cars but also premium and luxury vehicles from the early 00's onwards usually have a DSP with baked preset(s) or with an all-pass filter from factory, fixing these time issues and an overall EQ to make it sound good.
replacing this with any audio parts without knowledge and tuning capability is guaranteed to sound less good, even if you spend 10G on gear. this discouraged the regular consumer to purchase aftermarket products because they rarely sound better over OEM systems, unless applied, installed and tuned correctly.
"You can see that from orbit Bro" Alan's on fire in this one :D Great episode, the car is coming along great.
As much as I'd probably put a Barra in that car myself, I'm more _intrigued_ by watching you boys build up a 1GGTE because it's a lesser known engine and I'd love to know more about it.
And also about how one should approach building a reliable experience out of such an old design. I bet it would be super interesting :)
Here's a tip for you; Your speakers will work noticeably better if you put sound deadening on the inner door skin too and close in all those holes before you install the door cards. I used acrylic with sound deadening stuck to it and screwed that over all the holes and my speakers work heaps better for it.
With all these crowns you should rename the channel to 'the skid palace'
Definitely need to do a crazy 1GGTE build like 6Boost did back in the day. The engine sounds really good, one of the best i6s imo
Go the mighty 1G-GTE!
I really like this channel. QUEENSLANDER! I live in QLD. It's an amazing part of the world.
Let's see what you can get out of the 1G, I also have a 1G car and I'd love to see what Al could come up with as he doesn't seem to be afraid of unusual platforms. You can run pretty high boost on the stock GZE internals because it's near 8:1 compression, and even the NA non-vvti 1GFE will see 350hp under boost pretty happily. You can also use mostly OEM parts for upgrades, such as 7M-GTE valvesprings and retainers, 1jz injectors, and probably also JZ Crown intercooler.. An IS200 6 speed is also bolt on and happy to about 350hp at the crank!
Your dedication to shmiking really shows, I have no doubt that you shmiked a lot, maybe even more than you've ever shmiked before. The crown is an absolute shmiker.
Woody, you were correct, that sticky rubber stuff is called butyl, it's the same thing used in the sound deadening as well.
Also used as tail light seals and bolt in window seals.
Also called monkey sh*t by your local glass guy
It's just low viscosity pitch/tar by a different name.
@@FilleMang nah, it's lebbo chewing gum
"maybe it was made by Yamaha" Had me crackin up! Great video as always!
Nice to see Al not welding turbo manifolds and wiring complicated ECU stuff. Just normal boring (but necessary) average car guy stuff.😄 For a cruiser wagon, i think the UZE would be the way to go for v8 smoothness.
Well done mate, great to see you guys working on each other’s cars you guys deserve it👍🏼
Love the banter that you two have between you. It really comes across that you are good mates and understand each other.
Woody, nothing wrong with using aluminum duct tape (or “speed tape” as it’s called in aeronautic circles). It’s what’s used to hold lexan RC bodies together after an off. It adds weight but it does work. You could also use JB Weld and some drywall mesh tape on the backside to hold broken interior trim parts together.
Loving the Crown content!
Not trying to be a smart ass AL but that's electrical amalgamation tape or rubber splicing tape, we use it in high voltage underground cable joining. Incredible stuff.... After reading the other comments it seems like it's awesomeness has been discovered by all trades!
That is one hansome Car Woody 👌 I´de put 4 single fully electric Recaro seats in it, they are totally 80´s so your sticking with the theme.
this thing looks unreal top notch job woody
Woody, I love your Car Choices. Bloody Awesome. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Totally support the twin charged idea. That would be awesome. 👍
Great episode guys, good to see you doing something with your own cars.
Top quality work guys.
Banging! Can’t wait to see more!
Legend Boys Looking great!!
That was a nice laid-back vid for this weekend.
You guys are BFFs. (even though Al will never admit it) Love it, Love the video also.
Awesome progress so far 🤙👌
Love the wagon. OM606? Someday you guys will learn to appreciate the instant torque, fuel economy and longevity of properly built and tuned diesels.
Turned out really nice.
It looks so good, I love wagons! I think it would be really cool if you keep the original engine, since it is something new for the channel. Never seen one being built, I'm sure there's video out there, but I'd love to see you guys have a crack at it.
I wish we got some of your goodies over in America. No utes and fewer wagons and diesel 4x4s. Brilliant channel, gents!
The car is a beaut, Woody! My Mom had one of the first Crown Sedans in the states- awesome cars. Alan, the thought about a Lemon Squash IPA- that might even export well!
great video guys car is looking SOOOO sick
Schmicko Woody great bang for buck 😉
Bang For Buck!! I could’ve bought a Ramp Truck with what I’ve spent on it so far! 😂
Such a cool looking wagon!
I love the channel, and have bought heaps of merch. So this is the first time I'd pay you guys out. But seriously if you've got nfi about stereo stuff, get someone who does to do the job. I've been an installer for 25 years and if I was in QLD I would have loved to help out.
Stitt is a champ. Met him years ago in my Sydney Toymods meet up days.
Got heaps of videos of his wagon cruising.
Also, the butyl that holds the moisture barrier on is called Lebanese Chewing Gum.
Love the paint job. That's one sexy wagon!
Love how woody goes searching for that big bro affection, but Al won’t even give him a decent hi-5
That wagon looks slick, mate. Well done, Woody!
Definitely Shmiko boiz, love the channel and keep it up mate cheers 🍺🍺
Nice to see you in your shed Ben. Was like watching an episode of flip my ride mate! 😂
Definitely go the Barra Woody!
Thanks for the laughs!
Really hope you stick with the 1G, got to be one of the smoothest engines Toyota/Yamaha ever made. Not powerhouses, but man they sound good
More Toyota crowns !!! ❤️
awesome update, love the detail going back into this. it really is a small world with JDM (Toyotas especially), I've known Stitty for 20+ years and he has one of the best MS65 wagons you'll ever see.
you guys will have to come do a quick border-jump down to Casino for the Beef Week car show at the end of the month.
MS65, one of the best yes, lowered, colour code the bumpers, they look so good, one of bucket list cars.
It's an MS57.
Many thanks for the awesome videos, always great content chaps. I noticed something with the lighting, that I've seen when I film using the surrounding light source. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you may need to change the frame rate of your cameras to suit the lighting. It looks like a lot of this shoot was done under fluorescent lights, which runs at 50Hz ('Straya mate). If so, you'd need to change the frame rate on your cameras to match that (25/50/100) etc. You won't get the "pulsing" effect (if that's a thing) I see in this vid.
Awesome wagon! 👌
Love the car mate.
My built 1G-GTE is still on offer if you’re interested Woody. Fresh build. 6boost mani and EFR7163. 500+hp all day. If you go down that path and want a good motor without the hassle of finding all the parts, sing out.
Silver tape is so good for everything, also iso wipes to clean silicone (isopropyl wipes), get them from any plumbing store.
Looks sick.
Most wholesome content boys.
looking good
When I did my VL Calais I put my headliner in washing machine came up a treat..
FWIW, you don't need to use quite so much of that mass-loaded vinyl. Just enough to stop the resonance. If you have a big panel, you can almost always get away with a patch in the centre about half as big as you might think - it dampens the panel from vibrating, and as a bonus you don't have to add near as much weight. (Think about how you can stop a guitar string from vibrating just by sticking a finger on it, you don't have to lay your arm across the entire string.)
2JZ n/a, running ITB's for the win
sick ride
Woody about to pass driver's seat through door ? Al: "scratch". lol. Thanks for the contents gents. cheers
Wagons looking mint
Fantastic episode lads.
Great looking car woodie. Should be sweet to cruise In.
Butyle Putty is the terminology your after.
What an ace car xx
Love a good wagon gonna get one one of these days haha
Crown factory 👌🏻
id watch the crown factory. deffo worth a shirt!
I'm at this stage of my low class restoration now, this really got me motivated to push on thanks guys. I'm cleaning up an 88 Subaru Sportswagon for short offroad camp trips. Pretty interesting to note that the rear facing seats might have been an option with these wagons too, particularly the raised roof version. Mine has the same foot well in the boot but it has a hinged lid over the whole space, why take up space in the boot for the spare wheel when you can put it in the engine bay?! 🤯 L series baby
Scmicko Woody,nice ride!
Looking schmick Woody!
absolutely loving the long roof content boys nothing like completely stripping a car and forgetting how things go together.
I like the new years intro where the vehicle rpms match the tunes beat
0:26 Pole posting really is taking off. Thanks ICAH.
Full intro
Saw one of these today in the Bunnings car park in Joondalup. 19:07 I see Woody is a consumer of outback pugilist videos!
The Stitt! Haven’t heard that name since OG Toymods days
Parents did 500,000km in a Merc 300TD (with no turbo?) wagon with rear facing seats. With one too many kids for a normal car I was banished to the rear seat with my younger brother. Faking I was going to spew going over the Glasshouse was my only ticket to a front seat.
My parents had a Vanguard wagon in Zimbabwe in the 60s. They used to chuck my brother and I in the back section - we called it the pig pen. Gosh, only 60 years ago.....
havent seen many people play with a 2GR from an Aurion...cheap and plenty of power to get started with, came supercharged on the TRD model, could be a cool build
Great wagon
1ggte sounds good!!
Use WD40 to clean silicone off your hands.
03:19 - "The Ibis" AKA The Bin Chicken ha ha!
It's True, its nickname as the "Bin Chook Wagon"
7:05
Come on now Woody
We all know Alan likes a bit of Rick Astley 🤣😂
Sick
Al's video character is mellowing out a bit nowdays, is he softening up or is he getting old. 🤣
My 171 blew my mind when I got into it. Less road and wind noise then our Tesla 3. I'm a big Audio buff though so still went ham with acoustic deadener and now at 1/4 volume I can't hear the outside world at all
Supercharged 1UZ would be perfect in this car.
Al says: Woody asked me to sniff this rag and the next thing I know is waking up in his shed with a tool in my hand.
"Nobody kills anybody in my place of business except me or Zed"
Fitting to have a MCM shirt when working on your nugget in the driveway
It's starting to cool down here on the Sunshine Coast, (20Deg C) Better bust out the long sleeve
The TAFE I went to up north only used SCA multimeters (the others kept getting pinched), they seem to just be a rebranded uni-t, just half the price.
Not the bin… shop tunes get MCM to record some a burn it and play it
Love the tint look 👀 😎👍
stereo stuff is my jam. i'd have, and have done, just run all new wire for the stereo equipment. if you did it, at least you know it's there, even if something isn't working it's not due to missing or broken 40 year old wires...
would love to see the 1G get built up a bit!
If not - keep it toyota and maybe build up a 3RZ? heaps of big power potential in them.
The car with a b58 and auto from a modern supra , perfect cruiser
oddly satisfying. ;)
Yep, and with Audio, you don't need to 100%cover everything with the sound matting maybe 80% of the large panels make a huge improvement.
Bonkers!
and definitely put a barra in it!
Turboing the 1ggze would be awesome to see as not a lot of poeple know about them and they have decent potential. gze is the best of the 1g series as it has oil squirters factory and it would be mint with a freshen up and some modern tech.