The Raid on Harper’s Ferry - John Brown - US History - Part 4 - Extra History
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It's time for a revolution. John Brown has used his funding from the Secret Six to collect guns and begin his guerrilla war against slavery. With the help of his sons, Shields Green, Louis Sheridan Leary, John Anthony Copeland JR, Osborne Perry Anderson, Dangerfield Newby & Harriet Tubman, he would seize the Federal Arsenal and hold it. Beginning the fight that is now called Bleeding Kansas.
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Please do Texas revolution please extra history please
lol
Hey extra history when a video ends how come the animation movement is more movable but during the video it's not (just asking)
Is this your second admission to buying Hasan merch
Hey do a civil war one
History teaches an important lesson in revolution:
Any battle plan that includes the phrase "and then the people will rise" is a bad plan. You must assume the forces you have are the forces you have, and any uprising in your favor would be a pleasant surprise. Adjust strategy to account for a mass influx of recruits only after you have those recruits in your training pipeline and not a second before.
Not just revolution "COUGH UKRAINE COUGH"
@@dragonkingofthestars "COUGH AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ COUGH"
@@dragonkingofthestars
Ukraine ain't a revolution,
At best a Government fighting a defensive war after provoking someone, at worst a foreign proxy that was already expecting a attack from the East.
It's entirely feasible he could actually have won over a sizeable number of recruits. The problem with this plan wasn't relying on winning over new recruits for a mass revolt, but waiting in a fixed, easily besiegable location amidst an armed, pro-slavery population. Things might have gone differently had he just carried out his raid, freed Washingtons slaves and carried as much guns and ammunition as they could into the Virginian hinterlands, inspiring insurrection from a more mobile position.
@@bosunbill9059 He's talking about how the Russians expected Ukrainian support for the invasion, not the other way around.
While I will say that so far morally I don't see a problem with Brown's actions, he definitely was not a military man. The "believe that everyone will rise up because of how righteous my cause is" strategy has been tried and tested as a losing plan.
You're not wrong, but it may not have been quite AS tried and tested back then as it is now...
@@aslandus Hannibal himself failed with a similar notion (albeit on a much larger scale)
@@michaelcasey3292 He lost in the end but I don't think it's fair to say the entire notion failed. Some Gauls did rise up and join him.
It doesn't always fail. Not always. It worked in Cuba.
@@matthewsmith9640 Castro's initial attack also failed, just like the Harper's Ferry Raid. Plus, there was groundwork already laid before and after the Revolution.
Shields Green is such a powerful name, and so is Dangerfield Newby.
Dangerfield sound so badass
@@yakirchernin6015 Dangerfield Newby sounds like a nickname earned by constantly fucking up in training and putting everyone at danger
@@yakirchernin6015
Dangerzone LOL
@@hkiller57 "Newby is a wild card. Call on him, only as a last resort."
"This field is too dagerouse, we must call him- we must to call Dangerfield."
(in the imaginery hollywood adapation)
Only 'the expanse' fans get Osborne Perry Anderson (OPA)
"He captured Harper's Ferry with his 19 men so few
and he frightened 'ol Virginny til she trembled through and through
they hung him for a traitor, themselves the traitorous crew
But his soul is marching on" -verse from "John Brown's Body" (song)
History remembers a hero.
Glory, glory Hallelujah!
amen
Glory, Glory, Hallelujah!
When the raider said 80,000 men would avenge his death and give liberty to the slaves it's kinda chilling as it's near the amount of volunteers Lincoln called out for at the outbreak of the Civil War 75,000 volunteers to be exact
He was right it seems. 80,000 did avenge them
This series really makes the whole “the civil war wasn’t about slavery” sound ridiculous
The obligatory STATES RIGHTS TO WHAT moment.
@@KasumiRINA*STATES RIGHTS TO DO WYHHHHAAAATTTTTTTTTT??????*
@@DingusTheArtist Canadian geese 🪿 debunk all Lost Causers and I am not American or into US history. It's just a very clear and simple thing.
@@KasumiRINA to own farm equipment
@@gamerstheater1187not funny racist
8:26 "80,000 will rise to avenge me!"
He had no idea how wrong he was. The real number would be over 2,000,000.
I had the same thought
The army actually started with a call of 75.000 volunteers so in that sense he was right
@@Belisariuslover not counting men already in state militias
@@brianstabile165 true
Was it a million?
Frederick the Great's sword is the new Walpole, confirmed
No one can replace the great walpole
No one can replace the great Walpole. Yet. Mabye.
How did u write this 22hrs ago when it was uploaded 40 mins ago?
@@ur_local_nintendo_ds Patreon
I wanna know what happened to that sword, it's history, and what Frederick the Great's views were of America prior to his death.
The villainization of this hero is truly a historical travesty
The fact that to this day there are many in the south that call him a terrorist is an even bigger travesty. Slavery as he knew it may have ended, but things were/are far from over.
@@Casperski1312 I mean, he Was a terrorist, it's just that in this case it's justified.
Hero how?
@@biggestboofer is he not a hero? A terrorist, perhaps, would you say?
@@biggestboofer Did you not watch the video series or are you just a racist troll?
I’m surprised how badly this was planned given Brown’s extensive experience. He didn’t even alert Tubman before hand. His entire plan depended on factors beyond his control. He took the arsenal. All he had to do was take the guns and leave, and he had all night t do it.
I have a theory he didn’t actually want it to succeed, or more he didn’t think it would
That he really wanted to be the type of Christian martyr that he so revered.
History is riven with instances of revolutionaries finding their hands forced and everything going to hell in a handbasket as a result. Brown's plan relied upon having a central location for slaves to rally around and to begin their fight from; they had no means of transporting the vast quantities of ammunition and supplies they had in the arsenal.
It's one of those great What Ifs of history, to wonder what might've happened if Tubman had succeeded. It's frankly hard to imagine them having actually succeeded. Haiti's revolution succeeded because of a massive, coordinated, simultaneous series of uprisings and rugged terrain that made crushing the resisting self-emancipators difficult. Brown's idea of a more-or-less spontaneous slave revolt isn't the sort that usually works.
... But, then, maybe there's details we don't know. Maybe we're unaware that there actually was a network of slaves ready to rise up en masse, organized by Tubman. Maybe those people were ready and waiting and never got the signal. Maybe they'd have killed their masters and unified, and been enough to take a nearby fort, acquire cannons, and begin the work of true liberation. Maybe, maybe, maybe.
He didn't have extensive experience with anything at this scale against an actual military force, though. He'd gone up against a few dozen border ruffians led by a former captain before in the Kansas 'wild West', that sort of thing, but he hadn't gone up against an actual official and organised military force until then: at Harper's Ferry he was now up against ~100 Marines and dozens of state militia. Not a hope. But I agree with you - some of his mistakes and assumptions are jaw-dropping.
You're forgetting he was sick, and bankrupt. He could've kept slaying singular slaveowners, but he was running out of time.
@@seanmcloughlin5983 I might agree with that if he was going alone but he was not.
Crazy weird how, Robert e Lee, John wilks booth and stonewall Jackson were all at harpers ferry for John brown's execution
Well Lee was responsible for capturing him, Jackson was likely just there cause he heard about the attempted raid, and Booth because he was an avid supporter of the South, so he was likely getting off on the fact that an abolitionist was getting hung.
spoilers, man
@@androtherion just wait till you here what happens after he dies!!
They hanged him for a traitor, they themselves the traitor crew
Well, Lee was sent to put down Brown's rebellion
John Brown's only failure was that he did not get the slaves to join him in their emancipation. That is no moral failure, but a logistical one.
JB was a man of conviction and paid the ultimate price for it. It is a shame that he is so vilified. He should be one of the most celebrated heroes of the Civil War. His raid basically lit the fuse which ignited the war.
> His raid basically lit the fuse which ignited the war.
I mean, I'd consider the slavers murdering, torturing, and mutilating the abolitionists (as mentioned in this video), along with the caning of Sumner in the fucking capitol to be the inciting incident, but yeah his raid and martyrdom was definitely part of the chain reaction.
6:50 - "Iron spike" - Okay, first i thought this was going to be a ramrod, but wikipedia says that due to an ammo shortage there was a resident firing six inch spikes from a rifle because they fit.
...then the townsfolk spent more then a day defiling his corpse, throwing him to the pigs, and dumped in an unmarked pit.
Such a tragedy. Poor John Harper. As with so many moments in history, a simple misunderstanding sends greatness sideways.
And the vitriol with which the townsfolks rather would burn their own than see salves liberated. Now that is unflinching evil.
Going off the information in this video I highly doubt the townspeople were aware this was an attempted slave revolt.
Reconstruction was too kind
@@DaUziel So you are saying you think Abraham Lincoln was wrong? now that is a ludicrous suggestion.
@@clixbond6105 No, Andrew Johnson was the fuckup, reconstruction under him and others like him set us back 100 fucking years.
@@clixbond6105 exactly this dude has no sense
I was always told that his plan was doomed at the start because there was no one gathering support and troops for them to arm. I had no idea there was supposed to be, that person being H. Tubman of all people, but that they got sick at the worst possible time.
As I said in the first video, I say it again because it isn’t said enough.
🎶He captured Harper’s Ferry with his 19 men so true, he frightened ol’ Virginia till she trembled through and through!
They hanged him for a traitor, they themselves the traitor crew, his soul goes marching on!🎵
Beat me to it so I'll just add.
Glory glory hallelujah
@@1Ring42
Glory Glory hallelujah
@@BillyisAmongUs glory glory hallelujah
His soul goes marching on
Glory Glory Halleluljah
"A noble cause, but a bad plan." - Oversimplified
Killing is noble?
In the name of freedom of bondage of millions of others…yes it is! Do you feel that way about current day military members in war?
@Illumirage If it means freedom for innocents. Yes. Its one of the most noble things one can do.
“80,000 will rise to avenge me”
No kid, a million would…
That never happened
@Illumirage 700,000 Union soldiers not counting the multitudes never drafted or volunteered. More than a million soldiers fought to crush the tyranny of the south.
Poor Dangerfield. History mistreated him and his family
I know. Despite him being a minor character in this story, taken apart from this moment it's just so heartbreaking. He did everything right, only acting out in desperation.
Can we just take a second and acknowledge how badass that name is? His life was a tragedy but damn it’s a good name
The most infuriating part of this story is how cruel the pro-slavery militia is against fellow humans who only wish to free humans. While unpleasant, learning the truths should really be universal, in hopes that no one may rewrite these truths to sanitize history.
The very fury of the slavers is because of the inconvenient, even frightening truths the abolitionists had forced them to confront. Humans will do ANYTHING to erase evidence or accusations of them being fundamentally evil, or anything they perceive as leading to such. We see echoes of that same rage in the urge to suppress this sort of story to this day. Guilt-turning-into-rage is a common and powerful motivator.
To be pro slavery in the first place means that you would have to see some people as superior than others and that you as the superior one have the right to do whatever you please to all that oppose you.
Unfortunately, the truth has already been rewritten and sanitized across most of the US.
Is it surprising though that anyone who supports slavery is a psychopathic ax murderer? To think, to this day they keep gaslighting people about Confederacy...
3:02 For inflation-adjusted context:
Dangerfield Newby saved up an agreed upon 54,368.67 $USD(2023) [1,500 $USD(1859)] to free his family (wife and 7 children), only for the slave owner to ask for more.
Alternatively, another source claims that so far they only made a deal to free his youngest child for 36,245.78 $USD(2023) [1,000 $USD(1859)], for which he had only been able to raise 26,894.37 [742 $USD(1859)] at the time of joining Brown's group.
He was a criminal at first but during the Civil War, he became a martyr. An American Saint of Freedom. Baptized in blood. Honored by a song. Remembered by a free people.
He killed slavers. That's objectively a good deed. Goddamn Fallout gives you karma bonus for that. And even most villains like highway robbers and murderers draw the line on slave trade. It's just something that's too evil to accept.
After seeing this series to completion though he wasn't perfect I now have a new found respect for him and would love to die with the same honor and determination to see a dream to completion. He was the definition of follow your dreams dying for his ideals.
They hung him for a traitor, they themselves the traitor crew…
His soul goes marching on
8:27
If only those men knew, it would be a LOT more than 80 000.
John Brown’s body lays amolderin’ the grave
John Brown’s body lays amolderin’ the grave
John Brown’s body lays amolderin’ the grave
But his soul goes marchin’ on!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His soul goes marchin’ on!
The stars above in heaven are looking kindly down!
The stars above in heaven are looking kindly down!
The stars above in heaven are a lookin kindly down, but his soul goes marching on!
It’s wild how many factors go into a major heist like this, and how a few seemingly minor issues can spiral out of control
I wonder what could have been different if Harriet wasn't sick that weekend.
A noble cause
A bad plan
And terrible execution
I love Oversimplified 😀
Hah, double entendre
i learned of Brown’s Raid but never in such detail. the townsfolk seemed to be itching for blood this entire time
Flippant answer, they were slavers, what did you expect?
Deeper answer, people tend to respond with extreme, sadistic violence when faced with someone or something that forces them to confront something about themselves they know is wrong but are in denial about, as if they hope the violence towards the symbols of their guilt will make the guilt go away.
Holy cow. It goes to show you how brutal people can be.
Not to mention screwy.
It goes to show how people willing to enslave or sinply think others are naturally inferior are willing to kill those they deem inferior, kill those who think those people are equal, and kill those who are willing to act on that equality. The locals gave no quarter because they wanted to eradicate the idea.
Remember that the next time someone tells you people should be inclusive and allow people to hold beliefs that require the repression or outright eradication of minority groups......and those people ARE still out there.
They were slavers, think they had any qualms about shooting people?
All of us can turn to violence if pushed, but it takes a special type of person to enslave people as a normal daily activity.
You mean the other videos didn't show that? Was the whole hacking people to bits wasn't brutal?
Especially when your very existence forces them to consider that their entire lifestyle and worldview is based on a great, irredeemable evil.
There's no level of brutality people won't stoop to in an attempt to avoid that realization, or the violence they'll unleash against symbols of those who confronted them with that fact.
Taking into account the fact that slave-holding society (particularly among non-slaving neighbors) is explicitly based upon the use of violence to maintain economic advantage and perceived honor, and the maintenance of narratives of a threat posed by outsiders to your 'way of life', and the acts get particularly inhuman.
I mean, if you considered slavers and slavery-defenders human to begin with.
All 21 are heroes.
The fact that this story only *barely* gets touched on in some American school districts (and is actively suppressed in many others) is a fucking crime.
A chad of all chads on Extra History
Domestic terrorist rhetoric
"80,000 will rise to avenge me. and give liberty to the slaves"
one hell of a last words.
While not what he meant, a bit more than 80.000 rose
It's sad that slavers were treated with such kid gloves, even when the USA Civil War eventually was 'resolved'.
General Sherman had the right of it
@@MagicScientistno no he most certainly did not. He only worsened relations between north and south.
He was very cruel and that's terrible. But justice was LONG overdue
Residents: Shooting at people in the building.
People in building: Shoot back.
Residents: Shocked Pikachu
John browns body lies mooring in the grave but his soul goes marching on
So the slavers and acted exactly as barbaric as slavers are lampooned in every fiction story; at every opportunity they were given to do so. I grew up hearing about how American slavers weren’t those kinds of characters, and that though monstrous, it was all essentially a political disagreement. Evidently nothing could be further from the truth.
I am not aware of any instantiation of slavery in all of history as cruel as America's.
@@neillore7332Arab slavers
The Patrons made a good choice, this series is great
They do dang good work with their suggestions and voting!
I will stand by this till the day i die he did nothing wrong
He did something wrong
He lost
*hears gunfire in the middle of the night*
Local residents: You know what? Not my problem
I swear the most American thing in this episode is when the regular train passengers hop off the train with their own guns to start firing at the raiders😂
"so i started blastin" is the first phrase americans are taught lmaoo
@@Quantbitno they aren't
It’s cool how they heard men with rifles yell “freeze” and the first thing they did was run
Remember kids his soul keeps marching on
Please do the Greek revolution of 1821 against the ottoman empire next
I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai
We should talk more about Garibaldi. That man was hardcore balls-to-the-wall awesome.
Gil Lafayette would have 100% joined Brown’s raid had he still been alive.
As a Boy Scout, I've visited Harper's Ferry a number of times. I've been looking forward to this part!
"Dangerfield Newby" - dude's a gamer
Basic lesson in rhetoric vs action: Lots of people will say they’d support something. When rubber meets road, however, history tells us there isn’t much rubber in supply.
Part of me wishes he never left Kansas we could of used him and his Militia here in Kansas when the war fully kicked off.
Same. He was a great leader of men. He could have easily been an officer in the Union Army as well. Obviously this plan wasn’t great though.
I love how almost every character in this series seems so interesting that I want to research them more. It shows both the quality of these videos and how complex and fascinating this time in history was.
Please do a series on Lafayette
The marquis that named his son after Washington?
@@sonofjack6286 I sure hope so. He'd be great.
He was a bloke who got involved in the yank war of independence on behalf of the bourbons and led the pro monarchy conservatives in the revolution
01:33 And to think that at the time Garibaldi hadn’t even fulfilled his masterpiece yet, the expedition of the thousand.🇮🇹⚔️
ironically 80 thousand people did rise to avenge that one raider and the cause he fought for its called the american civil war and the united states colored troops
Thank you for that knowledge! It’s always been my fave patriotic song and I’m so glad to know where it came from! I do think that some versions use “let us LIVE to make men free” in the lyric - which I love.
00:22 Wow, really? Idk how many times I've been to Harper's Ferry, but I also know that I never had any idea that Harriet Tubbman was involved in this raid.
Incredible Narrative about the life and final act of defiance by this remarkable man! Love your videos!
"Dangerfield Newbie"
Best.
Name.
Ever !
Last night I drove to Harper's Ferry and I thought about you
There were signs on the road that warned me of stop signs
The speed limit kept decreasing by ten
As we entered a town about halfway there
It was almost raining at the train station
We put our hoods on our heads at the train station
We threw rocks into the river
The river underneath the train tracks
And when the train came it was so big and powerful
When it came into the little station
I wanted to put my arms around it
But the conductor looked at me funny
So we had to say goodbye and leave
The Monopoly board still in the backseat
Took that nightmare left turn to get out of town
Ran into the decreasing speed limits again
Thank you for this series. I was thinking that a great follow-up would be one on Pierce, Fillmore, and Buchanan, and what they did to push the country toward civil war.
Have I ever said John Brown's my man? Because he is.
So murder is okay when it conforms to your opinions, got it
@@Illumirage Its ok when its in the name of liberation of millions.
@@pokepals2780 no it isn't
@@pokepals2780 you aren't the law
@@Illumiragethe law doesn’t decide what’s good
We need more John Browns in this life, the world would be a much better place
His methods are terrible.
@@chrisblackburne2412 killing slavers? Speak for yourself.
@@chrisblackburne2412 oh yeah we can't use violence againts people who see other human beings as nothing more than property to be used and discarded. To be bred forcefully like cattle yeah we cant use violence againts these people! Whats horrible is how few people now not even in the past would be willing to stand up to demons like slavers.
No it would not because there is no weapon that only kills bad guys.
@@HKtraidon what’s your answer to the paradox of tolerance/intolerance, how would you have a tolerant society deal with the intolerant?
I want to see an alternate history where Tubman wasn’t sick.
A simple man having to take out of touch strong positions because of being in touch with greater causes. So much was thought and could be said
Great Video! Keep up the good work! Every of your videos captivate me.
You gotta be a true American if you can fall back to sleep in the middle of a gunfight.
Their souls go marching on to this day ✊
Thank god for this series, been wanting it for years.
Well, he's gone to be a soldier in the army of the Lord! He's gone to be a soldier in the army of the Lord! He's gone to be a soldier in the army of the Lord! His soul goes marching on!
Glory glory hallelujah! Glory glory hallelujah! Glory glory hallelujah! His soul goes marching on!
It's almost like he got as many sons and daughters so he could have an army of relatives to stamp out slavery.
Is this video legal in Florida?
Why wouldn’t it be?
It’s a reference to Ron DeSantis and the legislature there trying to ban any teachings of American history that paint the country in a negative light.
@@crzylkfx It discusses a bad part of America's history, so governor DerFurhor would demand it be banned.
@@evanulven8249 1, godwins law will get you nowhere
2, that’s not what the law says. That’s what propagandists told you, but they’re lying. You can absolutely talk about the bad parts of US history no problem
@@evanulven8249Except this video can be seen in Florida so none of that is true. Imagine having so much hatred for someone that you resort to making things up about them in order to justify your anger.
Of course they don’t tell us about this goat in school
my favorite series yall have done in awhile great stuff
I don’t think it was an iron spike but most likely a ramrod that was accidentally not drawn back out after ramming the shot.
Your videos are so interesting. I’m glad I was able to see them two minutes later
It may be only me, but I would like to have a Red Dead Redemption style video game of this piece of history....
I wish we learned more about this in our textbooks
I would love to listen to John Brown’s theology.
Nice job well done keep up the good work I loved the video ❤️
This is such a great series! I’ve learned so much on an already well known figure despite having a degree on it
Make a video Series on the Napoleonic Wars please, I really wanna see what creative stuff the Extra History team can come up with to make the Napoleonic Wars as fun as can be.
OMG, this sounds so much like the same plan as the Easter Rising in Dublin in 1916, its scary!
The most perfect imperfect man in US histor
can't wait for the music for this series
sounds amazing
Apropos of nothing but Dangerfield Newby is the coolest name ever
This one is wild. Wow.
Honestly I'd have the luck of being caught in the crossfire like the mayor was.
@@stevencooper4422 ... samei-sies. Respect.
Love the other 3 videos exited to finnish the fourth!!
Frederick's sword is a reincarnated Walpole. I have spoken.
Crazy that this man isn’t a household name
By design
He is.
@@Darkdjinn79 maybe because hes only known in history books and less in pop culture
He is somewhat in Kansas.
He is in Kansas.
i saw 21 and immediately my brain started playing that one part of Marty Robin’s Big Iron (lol)
You should do the Haitian Revolution or Harriet Tubman next
They already did the Haitian Revolution
@@erraticonteuse where ? Link
@@cerromeceo just look it up it’s not that hard
@@Noctem_pasa it's not hard to drop the link. You brought it up
@@cerromeceo CZcams deletes links and also it’s kind of ridiculous to bring up “you should make this” without actually checking to see if they made it first
Good work
The question posed at the start of this series, torrorist or hero, the answers pretty simple, both.
I mean our dreams were crushed with the "wild west didn't actually exist like in the movies."
...
But this episode is straight up a Red Dead mission.
Thanks
This is literally a history crossover episode at this point there are so many celebrity cameos