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Step back in time to the ancient city of Alexandria and Meet Hypatia, a brilliant mathematician, astronomer, teacher, and philosopher, revered across the Mediterranean for her intellect and eloquence. However, tragic events unfold when Hypatia finds herself at the mercy of a mob of monks loyal to Bishop Cyril, a political rival of the city's governor in this shocking murder that catapulted Hypatia into immortality, becoming a symbol of science, feminism, and philosophy throughout history.
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"They will kill her and make her immortal"
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Tbf, not many knew about her afterward.
This could be the start of a wild kung-fu vampire vengeance movie.
@@AliThaDude tbf, there wasn't mass communication like there is today, but even so she was Definitely known afterwards. Source: This CZcams video 💁🫵🤡
"What stars were visible during her time"
Blows my mind each time I re-realize the night sky would look different in earlier millenia
The only real historical inaccuracy in one of my fave books ( the song of Achilles) is how one of the characters mentions looking at the night sky and seeing a certain star, but that star wouldn’t appear in the until centuries later 😂
For me, what‘s even more crazy is the fact that we can recreate the night sky from past eras.
I've never lived in an area where I can see a night sky visual enough for it to seem realistic that people care about stars. I believe it, but it seems weird
@@draconariousthegamer1444Light pollution is a bitch.
stars, like birds, are a deep state psyop
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The way that Hypatia shut down that "student" that was "crushing" on her was a stroke of brilliance. 😂
Gotta try that sometime
Even made it into Hollywood.
@@garcalej Wait! You serious?
@@pokeplayerHQ Yeah. Watch the movie Agora. Based on her life.
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In case anyone is wondering bishop Cyril is the same bishop Cyril from the early christian schisms series. He is the one that goes after Nestorius.
Thanks imma watch that next
Some said that Hypatia was murdered because she was Nestorian
@@estebanmondragon6726Hypatia wasn't a Christian though.
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I wonder if Cyril in Archer being a loser as he is is a reference to that Cyril.
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Its rainy where I am too
Same 😂
I wish it rained where I live
I wished I had rain
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"In minutes, they will kill her, and make her immortal"
Daaaaamn this line gave me shivers
Bru I just saw a short about her and was about to look her up right when you posted this. Talk about perfect timing.
Yes!
The miracle of algorithms.
I read more about her due to doing some research for my art class, she’s in Raphael’s painting “School of Athens” and is the only women in that painting. I feel really sorry for her, she was intelligent and didn’t disrespect anyone’s religion, merely had different beliefs than some. I myself believe in God but I admire her, doing what she did especially during a time where educated women and any beliefs that didn’t follow Christianity were frowned upon she made a name for herself and stood her ground. She’s a great role model honestly
Thanks, I had no idea she was in there.
In Greco-Roman world, women were frowned upon IN GENERAL, like it's an Athenian thing damage from which lasts to this day, like it was that culture, which brought misogyny to Christianity, not vice versa. Case in point: there are female priests in Bible, and women were major sponsors of early Christian church... none of that survived culture clash with Hellenistic ideas of woman's place.
It’d be really interesting to see something about how Neoplatonism affected the origins of Christianity
The argument is that Neoplatonism affected not the origins, but the later development of Christianity (theological terminology was borrowed by Christian Church Fathers from pagan Neoplatonists, as most scholars say).
"Neoplatonism and Christianity" in Wikipedia-pretty good
Let's Talk Religion has a series about it, which is wonderful.
@@finrodfelagund8668 The Gospel of John opens with " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
Anyone well versed at the time in Platonism would have immediately recognized this statement as Platonic in origin. So I think "origin" is not out of the question when one whole gospel is filled with nods to Platonism, lmao
@@justinbell7309 We're talking about Neoplatonism, which started some 200 years after the Gospels were written.
I've always wondered about Hypatia for a while! I'm so excited for this series, but mainly for Nick's art.
I will be honest, I mostly know her from Civilization VI where she is one of the best great scientists in the game
And who says you can not learn anything from games ;)
@@Cythil Civ is really great at making people interested in stuff, unfortunately it also spread some myths, for example the stirrup theory about Middle Ages, or having writing and the wheel as very important techs prerequisite for so much stuff when you would see much more complex maths in Mesoamerica which notably didn't have wheeled transport due to nature of their roads. But Civilization made it look like the Mediterranean way of advancement is the only/main one.
I just keep noticing how many misinfo in my head was reinforced by pop culture, not because they were evil but because they either didn't do the research, or the data they used was outdated (i.e. most dinosaurs in games). Total War has really positive impact with how they showed armies, people criticize them for inaccuracy too much. KOEI games too... I'm glad people get interested in stuff due to games or films or TV.
Leading off with “the one thing” that people know her for, then expanding out to an entire series about who and what she was? Good narrative choice, EH.👌🏼👏🏼
poor little Hypatia, I feel sorry for her, and to think that she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I didn't think that the Romans who had no idea about the degradation of the famous Alexandria library
I am so glad that you decided to do an episode on Hypatia of Alexandria. I have heard about her first from the movie “Agora” (2009) which I found out had some major inaccuracies and later from the Good Place (as you mentioned). I’m curious since Hypatia was killed by a religious mob if there is any reliable information on Hypatia’s other philosophical or religious influences besides Neoplatonism?
I appreciate that you're presenting a more nuanced version of her history, instead of merely presenting her as the martyred savant so much of modern discourse about her has.
Though, it is mostly true. She's no less a martyr than any other "saint" Christians like to weep about.
@@MrTaekon Not even remotely.
@@justinbell7309 "not even remotely, because…"?
@@MrTaekon Because Christian martyrs were killed for their religious beliefs.
Hypatia was killed because of who she sided with in a local political squabble.
@@justinbell7309no, she was killed because she was a symbolic threat to Christian hegemony
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I was wondering when you lit would show up to meet Patty.
I love the fact that you address that she was murdered for political reasons rather that being a martyr of the christian fanatism.
I love these narrower series about individual figures. They feel more complete than the ones on whole empires. And Hypatia's an exciting subject. :)
Could you please do Skanderberg one day? Me and my dad are Albanian and we would really appreciate it.
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I think it’s important to remember that histories often reflect just as much about the time they’re written as the period they’re about (and that’s why you need to take anything written by the Victorians with a giant grain of salt!) Hypetia is a great example of how people’s views on late antiquity/the early medieval period is colored by their era’s perceptions of religion, politics, and society.
Okay so this isn’t really about history but it’s something I didn’t get until I saw this video.
In Dishonored 2 one of the major story characters is a woman, a doctor and alchemist by the name of Alexandria Hypatia. This woman also lives in a part of the games world that is very Mediterranean inspired. Now I wonder if the word Adermire, the hospital she serves at in Dishonored, will show up.
Well the truth is that the history of centres of scholarship in Alexandria is much messier than most assume.
The great library of Alexandria was in fact only a part of a building called the museion which is where we get museum from. This library had declined and been damaged by many events over many centuries. Multiple fires, expulsions of academics and sieges until that library at some point no longer existed. No one event destroyed this institution.
By Hypatias time in the 4th century the function of the library was taken over by the serapium. Part pagan temple, part school, part library. This was pretty much destroyed by a mob of Christian zealots.
Yes, it was the Serapaeon that the mob destroyed with the apparent blessing of the emperor Theodosius himself, not the OG Library.
Isn't it most likely that the disappearance of the Library from the historical record (as is owed, we can only speculate, to a deliberate destruction of the structure) was the reconquest by Emperor Aurelian of Egypt in AD 274, his' ordering destroyed that quarter of the city that housed the Library (that is to say, if the structure was still standing at the time)?
The serapium was destroyed because the pagans there were murdering christians. There's no evidence of it being a school or library.
The part of a Christian Mob burning down the library is actually a long-perpetuated myth that doesnt have evidence to back it up. And there are some accounts of that day that have survived to this day and none of them Pagan or Christian that even indicates any large collection of books were destroyed.
One such person being a Pagan by the name Eunapius of Sardis, who was a scholar at the time and was known to have despised Christians, yet he makes no mention of the Christians ever doing then when he surely would have wept and accused them of such a crime.
We also have a historian at the time as well as Ammianus Marcellinus, where he was actually describing the Serapeum sometime before the demolition. During which when he spoke on the libraries, he spoke of them that they were no longer existed.
This myth comes from a man named Edward Gibbon who lived in the 1700s (1737 - 1794) he seems to be the first that began to spread this tale that many have started to believe as fact. This is only found in his book called Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, this is the only point this accusation ever comes up yet to my knowledge has no proof. While for the actual witnesses of the time indicate such an event never happened and that the libraries in the city had already been destroyed and gone before the destruction of the Serapeum.
Source: David Bently Hart and Tim O'Neil (where they provide their sources of those there at the this time and such)
The serapium was destroyed by christian zealots because the pagans there were murdering christians. No historical evidence of it being a school or library either.
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One of my favourite people, from the Ancient world, because that she treated everyone equally no matter their Faith.🤝 Norse/Germanic Pagan here, Peace and Love to all People's of the World, no matter their category.
That's a completely different ethos to actual germanic and norse paganism. You're really Christian with a polytheistic dress.
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There is no one single belief of all Norse or Germanic pagans. Never has been, never will be.
@Elora445 thank you.
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is this a repeat episode?
A movie that I grew up with and actually is about Hypatia is "Ágora" from Alejandro Amenábar. I do think it´s a great movie and the best thing is that it completely revolves around her life.
That movie is trash and misrepresents why she was killed. She died because of mob politics instead of her faith
I was thinking of that movie the whole episode--it even has the sanitary rag bit!
Yeeeeee! I’ve been wanting to see a video about Hypatia for ages! Thank you ❤❤❤
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Her story has become so infamous that legends of a christian martyr that pretty much correspond to Hypatia's story have found their way into the list of saints recognized by the church.
Even her christian contemporaries didn't want her to meet her end.
A reference to the monks was made in the movie "the physician", but since the setting was in the golden age of Baghdad they had the religious fantics be a sect of radical islamists (similar to those who followed after the refocus on "the spritual" led by Al Ghazali). Needless to say, both groups ended the respective golden ages of enlightenment in their respective cities!
I thought the physician was set in Isfahan... but appart from that, I do now see the reference too, thank you
Almost like there is a pattern there with religious fundamentalists.
The Golden Age of Islam ended when Christian Mongols, with their Armenian and Georgian brothers, razed Baghdad and other great towns
@@civilengineer3349 Quibble. The Armenians and Georgians were Christian, the mongols were not. There were Christians among them sure, but there was even more Buddhists, and even Muslims, among their host
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2:25 hi-pay-shuh is the English pronunciation not the Latin one. I think in Latin it would be closer to the Greek hi-puh-tee-uh
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One of my favorite philosophers! Thanks for starting this series!
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So glad she's getting a series. Been a fan of her for awhile
Looking forward to part 2!
I’m glad more of her is known these days, I learned much more about her here than when I first heard of her on carl Sagan’s cosmos. I tried to find out more about her but so little is known, at least that I could find. Ty for making this!
There is nothing better than sitting at my drawing desk with a pad of paper and a pen and listening to some good ol' Extra History! Thank you for making these videos.
It's a shame most modern media never seems interested in focusing on figures like this whenever they delve into historical settings. So a salute to you guys for picking up the slack 😊
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The movie about her is pretty decent. It stars Rachel Weiz
That movie is full of myths, it doesn't represent real history (little history + lots of lies).
@@finrodfelagund8668
But it's a good movie though. Even History Buffs thinks so, and he hates historical inaccuracies in fiction with a fiery passion.
@@finrodfelagund8668 it’s also just a good movie. And what lies are you talking about. These events happened almost 1800 years ago nobody knows exactly what happens
@@MrJimheeren When you represent as history something of which "nobody knows exactly what happens", is lying.
But yes, it was a good movie (unfortunately).
@finrodfelagund8668 What are you talking about. How are they lying if they even say they are not sure of what happened but have theories of what might have happened. That doesn't make them lairs.
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Another great video. Love the "The Good Place" shoutout
Hypatia of Alexandria (Hyyyypatia)
Hypa hypa!
Next video idea:
The History of Skanderbeg
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If I recall correctly, the part of Alexandria that burned during Caesar's attack was the port, which burned a storage of books destined to export, but not any of the temples of the Library itself ^^'
I love this show!
Wait... showing evidence of Hypatia's period was enough to turn the admirer off?
You’d be amazed how many men still get grossed out by that
Where was this when I was doing an essay on Hypatia!? This is great!
ANOTHER BANGER🙏🙏🙏
PANR has tuned in.
I first heard of her through Carl Sagan's Cosmos tv series. I was so impressed that my first email address has her name in it. I still use it today.
Hey extra credits i wonder when you are going to do a series on takeda shingen
Great video.
It took me forever to finally realize the opening sound clip was from Actraiser.
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The good place is one of my favorite shows, nice to see the reference here
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4:58 probably the funniest part in the whole thing
I literally was hoping that EC would do an episode of Hypatia ! The TedEd video on her is good too !😂😊
5:05 why would she think that would work? 😅 Serenade an unwanted suitor? Makes me think she actually did have a few paramores that had to be explained as unrequited love lol
The movie Agora covers a fictional account of her life. It is however a fantastic movie.
I need MORE
Please do the Greek war of independence of 1821 against the ottoman empire next
I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai!!
I love this! ... and also a minor gripe. Doubling the cube is (famously, among mathematicians) impossible with a compass and straight-edge. Pandrosion only figured out an approximate solution, and it seems likely that even in her own time it was known that her methods couldn't be proven to be correct on the nose.
I loved the Bill Nye joke!
Back for a another one
Great movie the actress who played in the movie, the Mummy. Played her, had me in tears at the end
The library of Alexandria was already was a shell of its former self. As many of the greatest scholars moved out to other places such as Greece. By the time Caesar burnt a portion of the library, it only held books of knowledge with some of them also leaving with the scholars. The Ptolemys used the library by the late stage as a symbol of prestige. Also thanks about talking about late Roman history. I finally have someone other than Menalus(spelt it wrong) to watch about late Rome.
Fun fact there's a beautiful song by the Greek group Hainides called Alexandrino talking about Hypatia's murder check it out!
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I believe the reference to monks at 0:38 is a confusion of chapters 14 and 15 in Book 7 of the Ecclesiastical History of Socrates of Constantinople. Socrates relates in chapter 14 a violent clash involving around 500 monks from Nitria, but this was a different event than Hypatia's murder in chapter 15. There, Socrates states that the mob consisted of some of city's Christian populace led by a lector named Peter, and a lector would not normally be a monk. Not a big detail, but I noticed it when watching.
Hypatia was awesome; I'm glad to be reading about her, Blessed Be.
4:59 My mental state is the fade in.
Oh shoot! I remember her! I did a book report about her for a math class when I was a freshman in high school. Our teacher wanted us to do a report about historic mathematicians and I stumbled across her by chance. I happened to be the only one who did a report about her.
I sure do hope there's a Papa Emeritus IV cameo somewhere in this series.
Using Carl Sagan as the embodiment of the example teacher *chefs kiss.
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Again a W video
You should make a video about irene of Athens
Nice
You're my favorite teacher
"Latin pronunciation"? More like "English idea of Latin pronunciation".
Very enjoyable episode nonetheless and I don't mind the pronunciation just the misnomer.
New EH video, yippeekayee
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I'm picturing her in the public square getting topics for lecture like a bad improv performance. "OK, I need a subject. I hearrrrrrd 'Comets'? Let's talk comets!"
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Hello to all Extra History community
I learned about his watching the movie Agora. Its sad what happened to her.
Hypatia was an amazing ancient public intellectual, whose murder made her a symbol of strength like Socrates. She was willing to question those who could only blindly believe, that's incredible.
Hey Ted ed made a video about her as well. Extra history have you seen it?
Rest in power Hypathia ✊❤️
Wow, that menstrual pad worked better than mace 😅
I saw that Walpole refernce.