The Rosetta Stone - A Race to Ancient Secrets - World History - Extra History

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    French Savant Pierre-François Bouchard finding the Rosetta Stone is just the beginning of unlocking the secret language of ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphics. Along with the efforts of Thomas Young, a polymath, Jean-François Champollion a talented linguist, and the discovery of the Philae Obelisk, the code was finally broken!
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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  Před rokem +110

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    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před rokem +3

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    • @Texanprime
      @Texanprime Před rokem

      Please do Texas revolution please extra history please

    • @Cedar_Wolf
      @Cedar_Wolf Před rokem

      Yay! We got a Zoey cameo! She's a good kitty.

    • @triassiam9031
      @triassiam9031 Před rokem

      How about getting more into the Greek revolution of 1821 against the ottoman empire

    • @gyllenspetzfamily7993
      @gyllenspetzfamily7993 Před rokem

      Subtle dig at the stupid TV show that lied about Cleopatra. Smooth!

  • @DragoniteSpam
    @DragoniteSpam Před rokem +1805

    The same Thomas Young who did the double slit experiment? Whoever called him "the last man who knew everything" wasn't messing around.

    • @krupam0
      @krupam0 Před rokem +273

      Also the same Young after whom Young's modulus was named, apparently.

    • @DragoniteSpam
      @DragoniteSpam Před rokem +174

      @@krupam0 And here I thought I knew all the overachievers when I was in high school.

    • @KeithBoehler
      @KeithBoehler Před rokem +26

      If true i was wondering why the name and time period felt familiar.

    • @robert-janthuis9927
      @robert-janthuis9927 Před rokem +109

      @@DragoniteSpam I'd suggest looking into Euler and Gauss. Basically, if there is some concept in math which got discovered between like 1800 and 2000, there is like a 50/50 chance that either one of those already discovered that same thing a few hundred years prior.

    • @DragoniteSpam
      @DragoniteSpam Před rokem +83

      @@robert-janthuis9927 You expect Euler and Gauss to show up all over the place in math (and Newton in physics, and Turing and Shannon in computing...), the remarkable thing about people like Young are how many different domains they did important work in over a single lifetime.

  • @thepbg8453
    @thepbg8453 Před rokem +1556

    As a individual who has worked the galleries of the British Museum, no item is more requested or sought after than the Rosetta Stone: or the most missed. People will ask where it is even while standing right next to it, and it is on everyone’s bucket tour. The biggest irony as to why people struggle to find it is the sea of people who envelop it’s case just to get a look: accidentally blocks it from view.
    In short its one of the few times you will see people excited to see a Tax Document

    • @cebonvieuxjack
      @cebonvieuxjack Před rokem +156

      That's cause its exposition is not ideal, it's a relatively small stone place at size height in the middle of a hallway between the Egyptian and Assyrian corridors, a place which is bound to be crowded. It sould be place at the end of the Egyptian Corridor, head-high up on a wall, facing down the alley filled with statues and sarcophagus. With the explanations and information placed next to it, on both sides...
      Ugh, Britons... NO SENSE OF PRESENTATION ! If we had brought it to the Louvre this would have NEVER happened!!! 🙄😤😤

    • @thepbg8453
      @thepbg8453 Před rokem +90

      I would graciously like to mock the Louvre in turn and undermine its layout… however I have never been so I will instead aggressively drink tea at you.
      *SIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPP!*
      *This is a joke :P*

    • @cebonvieuxjack
      @cebonvieuxjack Před rokem +59

      @@thepbg8453 I would have liked to answer by smoking loudly but I don't know how to phonetically put that into letters. I am shattered, and defeated.

    • @SirV3nt
      @SirV3nt Před rokem +70

      ​@cebonvieuxjack as an American, I would like to look down on both of you from some misguided sense of superiority, then proceed to throw the vast majority of my money into the defense budget.
      I chose to make the sound of an F-22 Raptor fly by, costing the taxpayer millions of dollars.
      *WOOOOOOOOOSH*

    • @bobsickle2336
      @bobsickle2336 Před rokem +5

      ​@@cebonvieuxjack Probably would have been stolen like the Mona Lisa.

  • @DavidJamesHenry
    @DavidJamesHenry Před rokem +544

    This is way better of a story than I was led to believe as a child who was told "it's just unimportant tax information"

    • @Jimera0
      @Jimera0 Před rokem +33

      They're not wrong, but it's the story around it and what they could do with it that made it a great story... if they left all that out, no wonder it was dull lol. It is rather amusing though that one of the most notable archaeological finds in human history is unimportant, dry tax law though.

    • @DavidJamesHenry
      @DavidJamesHenry Před rokem +23

      @@Jimera0 i think the story of Ptolemy V's power struggle is just as interesting, and provides important context. This stone was carved during the Punic Wars while Hannibal was invading Italy. That's a lot of historical juice that I was never told!

    • @2MeterLP
      @2MeterLP Před rokem +14

      Its not even unimportant tax information! A sudden tax exemption for all priest say a great many things about the periods political climate!

    • @DavidJamesHenry
      @DavidJamesHenry Před rokem +10

      @@2MeterLP we are STILL talking about tax exemptions for religious institutions to this day!

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@DavidJamesHenry iirc there was a massive popular revolt against the Greeks (and their corrupt local priests) under Ptolemy IV, which actually reinstalled pharaohs in upper Egypt, southern Nile.
      But they lost.

  • @Nyst2
    @Nyst2 Před rokem +516

    Imagine taking the actual Rosetta Stone from the French and still getting beaten by them at translating it.

    • @v_cpt-phasma_v689
      @v_cpt-phasma_v689 Před rokem +11

      after the English started it, champ couldnt have done it without young.

    • @wikirexmax
      @wikirexmax Před rokem +39

      ​@@v_cpt-phasma_v689 The English didn't started it, they almost tried from day one. Champolion's interest into coptic was also a core element for being able to decipher and speak the language.

    • @cpj93070
      @cpj93070 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@wikirexmax You French are still not getting it, it's staying in England end off. 😜

    • @RazorsharpLT
      @RazorsharpLT Před 10 měsíci

      @@cpj93070 If it wasn't for the French you wouldn't even HAVE the Rosetta stone. The only thing you're good at is stealing.
      coming from a Lithuanian... man, i wish Napoleon would have won.

    • @jordaneggerman4734
      @jordaneggerman4734 Před 7 měsíci +6

      ​@@cpj93070 ...in the words of a true lover of history.... _"It belongs in a _*_museum!"_*
      ...Just...the one in Cairo, not the one in London...

  • @grant.5345
    @grant.5345 Před rokem +532

    Imagine travelling across the world to somewhere you have never been before, and be surrounded by the ancient monuments of the past carved in a language only you know.

    • @midshipman8654
      @midshipman8654 Před 9 měsíci +30

      Thats a striking image to think about. Something few people will ever experience.

    • @arc-sd8sk
      @arc-sd8sk Před 7 měsíci +4

      damn

    • @BassOutcast
      @BassOutcast Před měsícem +2

      Basically Robin from One Piece

    • @scareantics
      @scareantics Před měsícem

      that is what this “history” lesson/video was: only imagination. It never happened, none ever learned to read hieroglyphs….

    • @zzzzzzzz6845
      @zzzzzzzz6845 Před měsícem +4

      @@scareanticsbro what are you on about

  • @albevanhanoy
    @albevanhanoy Před rokem +640

    You should have mentioned that Egypt acknowledged Champollion's work and gifted an obelisk to France to thank them for deciphering hieroglyphs. I don't think there is a clearer way to say that he won and Young lost :P .

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 Před rokem +69

      They also gifted Britain Cleopatra's Needle at the same time as thanks for kicking the French out of Egypt. It was presented in 1819 but remained in Egypt until 1877 due to transport costs, only being finally moved when the Egyptians proposed demolishing it to make way for land development.

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 Před rokem +39

      Egypt gave two obelisks to France. But the first one was so tedious to transport, we left the second one in Egypt and a century and a half later a french president officially renounced to the gift XD

    • @albevanhanoy
      @albevanhanoy Před rokem +4

      @Krankar Volund Oh yeah I remember that story! Turns out, moving kilotons of stone across an ocean isn't that easy x)

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 Před rokem +4

      @@albevanhanoy That's why I prefer when people give me their gift at my home :p

    • @22espec
      @22espec Před rokem +2

      Although I would like to know what they think of Champollion statue in the College of France. Do they really have to put his foot over a Pharao's head?

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz Před rokem +111

    6:58 Belzoni was not just a circus strongman, but was also one of the most influential people involved n beginning the science of Egyptology

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory Před rokem +4

      No italians can’t be important h that doesn’t fit Germano-centric narrative

    • @Kaiyanwang82
      @Kaiyanwang82 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@Boretheory meanwhilem in the Belzoni english wikipedia: 1 portrait by the british, 1 by a dutchman, 1 medal depicting him in the british museum.

  • @sErgEantaEgis12
    @sErgEantaEgis12 Před rokem +105

    8:45 "He uncovered kings who's names had not been spoken for millennia" I'm very embarrassed that I never really thought about this but it makes so much sense and it's so mind-blowing.

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 Před rokem +365

    Thomas Young and Jean-François Champollion arguing who deciphered Egyptian Language, and I'm here wanting to hug both, just to say: "You both did a great job, and we are grateful for it".

    • @ndemers
      @ndemers Před rokem +27

      "I just want both teams to have a great time"

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 Před rokem +4

      At the same time though, as an American, I really just want to watch them both duke it out while I enjoy my popcorn and fondly remember how we owned them during the Suez Crisis. Good times.

    • @tygrenvoltaris4782
      @tygrenvoltaris4782 Před rokem +4

      English and frenchie rivalry never ends..

    • @SpMile
      @SpMile Před rokem +5

      Also mention that working together would have been better

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel Před 4 měsíci +1

      kind of like Alice Kober / Michael Ventris. Both died young.
      Alternate universe, they met, married, and had sex like rabbits

  • @bud9133
    @bud9133 Před rokem +352

    I'm so embarrassed my British ancestors wrote on the side of an important artefact what basically says "Brits Roolz, Frenchies Droolz!"

    • @khosrowanushirwan7591
      @khosrowanushirwan7591 Před rokem +44

      Lol, no need to feel embarrassed those were the exploits of your ancestors not yours.

    • @Tyork42
      @Tyork42 Před rokem +24

      @@khosrowanushirwan7591there are plenty of brits whod do that now😂

    • @irenedeneb6188
      @irenedeneb6188 Před rokem +48

      In all fairness, the Ptolemies themselves often did the same thing. The British were adding their own history to an ancient object, as has been done by conquerors since time immemorial.

    • @watchm4ker
      @watchm4ker Před rokem +29

      ​@@irenedeneb6188Not just the Ptolemies. One of the big hurdles of studying ancient Egyptian history is that over thousands of years, multiple Kingdoms and even more Dynasties, there was a LOT of historical revision to better fit the then-current rulers. Scratching out and re-carving names, claiming achievements that were proven older than the claimant's family, switching around gods as parts of the religion fell in and out of favour... It all builds up over the Millenia, until the Romans took over and ended much of the priesthood, consigning Hieroglyphics to the past.

    • @RaffieFaffie
      @RaffieFaffie Před rokem +5

      I'm humoured by it, I wouldn't do it if I found an ancient artifact though.

  • @leonhardeuler7647
    @leonhardeuler7647 Před rokem +102

    For those of you interested in learning more I suggest checking of Native Lang's video on how Egyptian was deciphered.

  • @BlackLabelExpat
    @BlackLabelExpat Před rokem +53

    I can see it now. Solider:"The new bulding scrap for the fortresses just arrived." Commander: "Whoa wait wait wait. This one looks different."

    • @bernardoheusi6146
      @bernardoheusi6146 Před rokem

      I can't. That sounds stupid.

    • @andyjay729
      @andyjay729 Před rokem +3

      Good thing they noticed it, regardless of what their exact words were upon discovery. As was pointed out in the "Napoleon in Egypt" series, ancient steles were often repurposed as building blocks.

  • @birdofclay9581
    @birdofclay9581 Před rokem +32

    Even though I always had an interest in ancient history, for the longest time I thought that the Rosetta stone was much ... smaller. Like, the size of a sheet of paper. It was only a couple years ago, when I saw an image of it with a person standing next to it and realized: "Wait, that thing is massive!"

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 Před rokem +11

    Rosetta Stone would be like in 2000 years from now and somebody finds an intact Alibaba instruction manual. It's written in 3 languages English/Chinese/Spanish. They already understand Chinese because this knowledge somehow survived 2000 years into the future but Spanish and English were lost to time along with all Romance languages. Using this Alibaba instruction manual they are able to also tap into some Greek and Latin because of the nature of Romance Languages. The Rosetta Stone itself is deciphered once again and read after studying the great Alibaba manual. The people of the future wonder who was this great Alibaba and why was he so important to have to have his important message read by so many different types of people?

  • @carlosalbertofernandezvele7574

    Just think that Champollion, without the knowledge and resources of today's media did a better research on Ancient Egypt than 3 so-called Egyptologist for a certain network.

    • @Ami-jc2oo
      @Ami-jc2oo Před rokem +8

      He even read the name of said 'documentary'

    • @buwitre1
      @buwitre1 Před 11 měsíci +14

      Who needs Champollion or the Rosetta Stone for that matter, when a grandmother knows everything about Egypt.

  • @tecpaocelotl
    @tecpaocelotl Před rokem +47

    The next one should be about deciphering the Mayan writing.

  • @WaterShowsProd
    @WaterShowsProd Před rokem +24

    Similarly ancient Khmer was decyphered when Etienne Aymonier discovered a stele at a small temple in present-day Sakaew, Thailand. The stone was inscribed in both Sanskrit and Khmer and told the story of the founding of the kingdom and a list of monarchs, unlocking two centuries of lost history. When France drew up borders for their new colony, the temple ended up on the Siamese side, so Aymonier attempted to steal the stele by hauling it with an elephant. He failed-it's not known for certain it was him, but he was annoyed that such an important find was on the "wrong" side of the arbitrary border France drew through Siamese controlled territory, and locals witnessed a European attempt to take the stone. The Siamese then fetched the stone and took it to Bangkok where it sat in The National Museum before being destroyed by a fire. The temple has been reconstructed and I've performed there twice, in shows telling the history of the temple, the discovery it provided, and the history of The Khmer Kingdom.

    • @olivierb9716
      @olivierb9716 Před rokem +1

      kmers civilisation is certainly one of the less know and the more fascinating civilisation.

  • @alfrancisbuada2591
    @alfrancisbuada2591 Před rokem +38

    I can wholeheartedly say. That this artifact has brought more understanding of the Egyptian culture than anywhere else

  • @LawrenceMK2
    @LawrenceMK2 Před rokem +19

    “I also can’t eat the Rosetta Stone” is such a wonderful sentence.

  • @grdja83
    @grdja83 Před rokem +13

    I got terrified for a second you would omit this from the "Napoleon in Egypt" story.

  • @AustrianEmpire415
    @AustrianEmpire415 Před 9 měsíci +6

    I like how there are three distinct animation styles, the one in the main series (examples:napoleon in Egypt, Crimean War, Siege of Vienna, & path to Pearl Harbor), the OG style of this video, Justinian, Bronze Age collapse, & Punic wars, and then the style in extra mythology

  • @kala_asi
    @kala_asi Před rokem +30

    As someone who likes to mess with reconstructions of European languages and later check my guesses, the section at 7:35 spoke to me on a personal level

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před rokem +20

    "William John Banks was touring Egypt when he fell in love with a 22-foot tall, 6-ton obelisk."
    A better love story than Twilight.

  • @thecaelspice
    @thecaelspice Před rokem +7

    "I also Can't eat the Rosetta Stone"
    Well not with That attitude you Can't Matt

  • @markadams7046
    @markadams7046 Před rokem +11

    I'm surprised Rosetta Stone didn't sponsor this episode.

    • @AlbertaGeek
      @AlbertaGeek Před rokem +2

      Talk about a missed opportunity.

  • @aldrinmilespartosa1578
    @aldrinmilespartosa1578 Před rokem +11

    "I can't eat the Rosetta Stone"
    "Skill issue"

  • @jakegarvin7634
    @jakegarvin7634 Před rokem +14

    6:46 - the man was right, it really tied the front yard together

    • @saidtoshimaru1832
      @saidtoshimaru1832 Před rokem +2

      Caligula said the same thing. Now the Obelisc he brought to Rome is in the sentre of Sain Peter's Square.

    • @jakegarvin7634
      @jakegarvin7634 Před rokem +2

      @@saidtoshimaru1832 a pope or two as well. They've been fighting over that thing in particular for 2000 years at least

  • @kloothommel6569
    @kloothommel6569 Před rokem +17

    Pharao's could change the hyrogliphic script based on their own personal preference. This also meant that all important carvings of tale's, laws, religious teksts were changed dozens of times because some random pharao liked certain symbols slightly different better. This also didnt help to translate ancient egyptian later.

  • @TheHorzabora
    @TheHorzabora Před rokem +8

    The full history of the Rosetta Stone is just one of those amazing series of fascinating historical events and coincidences.

  • @sonofrivadin3684
    @sonofrivadin3684 Před rokem +5

    0:18 You hear this Netflix?

  • @Itsgay2read
    @Itsgay2read Před rokem +68

    The only reason I know about the Rosetta Stone is because of Rick Riordans The Kane Chronicles (it's literally the first artifact we see in the trilogy).
    Also, just love how casually they desecrated it along the way before it wound up in a British Museum. Just encapsulating all the worst aspects of archeological history😂

    • @digitalhistory8526
      @digitalhistory8526 Před rokem +2

      We just wanted everyone to know that we beat the French to get it 😂

    • @CollinMcLean
      @CollinMcLean Před rokem +6

      Britain with artifacts invokes the image of the seagulls from Finding Nemo “MINE!”

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 Před rokem +5

      @@CollinMcLean, now I'm imaginging a bunch of seagulls with monocles and top hats throwing down over a rock with some scribblings on it... and it is beautiful.

    • @CollinMcLean
      @CollinMcLean Před rokem +1

      @@occam7382 Someone needs to meme that now... Britain with artifacts and Britain with other countries.

    • @cpj93070
      @cpj93070 Před 11 měsíci

      @@CollinMcLean Cry more, you lost French boy. 😜😜

  • @enxman7697
    @enxman7697 Před rokem +19

    Those stories are amazing! Keep up your wonderful work!

  • @iapetusmccool
    @iapetusmccool Před rokem +6

    I grew up in Dorset. The estate with that obelisk was just outside my home town.

    • @treeaboo
      @treeaboo Před rokem +1

      Kingston Lacy, it has lovely gardens. Got dragged around there a lot as a kid because my parents liked those gardens, I always thought the giant obelisk sitting in the middle of the estate looked cool but I never realised it was so important in deciphering hieroglyphics.

  • @ivanwilliams7413
    @ivanwilliams7413 Před rokem +8

    Wow, I didn't know how much trouble it was to decipher hieroglyphics from the Stone. I thought it was like, "Oh, match the shapes to the other shapes that form words." And now, yeah, that sounds ridiculous considering how complex both civilizations were.

    • @CollinMcLean
      @CollinMcLean Před 11 měsíci

      Add to the fact it's not a perfect one for one because Egyptian writing doesn't have vowels meaning there are literal gaps to fill when translating. I learned to read Younger Futhark for fun and for art and design purposes and that took months. I can only imagine how much of a headache it was to decode Egyptian from essentially scratch.

  • @glitterboy2098
    @glitterboy2098 Před rokem +6

    man, this would have been a perfect video for Rosetta Stone language Learning Software to have sponsored.

  • @thomasrinschler6783
    @thomasrinschler6783 Před rokem +11

    If you want to have some real fun, do a series on Ptolemy V's children and grandchildren, Ptolemy VI through X (although you can throw in the very short reign of Ptolemy XI before he was literally torn apart by an Alexandrian mob only a few days into his reign) and their sisters (some of whom were their wives, although the sisters would also marry into the Seleucids). It's a story of murder, incest, backstabbing, and civil wars in two kingdoms, Ptolemaic and Seleucid, that puts Game of Thrones to shame. The BBC did a series called "The Cleopatras" in the '80s that covers this period in its first few episodes (although they exaggerate quite a bit, and it's... um... *very* '80s in effects and soundtrack). Cleopatra VII, *the* Cleopatra, was actually a pale imitation of some the political maneuvering her ancestors were involved in...
    Heck, Cleopatra Selene I could support a whole series just on her own...

    • @Oxtocoatl13
      @Oxtocoatl13 Před rokem +2

      I think the sole reason why Ptolemaic family intrigue isn't better known is that everyone was called either Ptolemy or Cleopatra, and their family tree is a Christmas wreath that would make the Targaryens puke.

  • @wikiuser92
    @wikiuser92 Před rokem +7

    I read about this story in a history book when I was a kid, and it's always fascinated me. Thanks for providing me with more details.

  • @Pavlos_Charalambous
    @Pavlos_Charalambous Před rokem +71

    Interesting enough the word demotic is still being used as an expression in Greek for common people's dialect
    Yes back in the day languages had the everyday
    And elaborated snobbish versions
    As a matter of fact Greece kept using what they literally called the Katharevousa - the purist until the mid 80s!!!

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 Před rokem +1

      Demotic just means popular, the complete name of the third script on the Rosetta stone is demotic egyptian. It's just that we really study demotic scripts only in egyptology so the egyptian is dropped ^^

    • @Theraot
      @Theraot Před rokem +5

      The ostensibly preposterous proposition that the intricacies of sophisticated language yield an arcane nature to the populace is worthy of contemplation.

    • @Pavlos_Charalambous
      @Pavlos_Charalambous Před rokem +2

      @@krankarvolund7771" demos " the people in ancient Greek
      For example the ancient Athenian parliament was known as " I eklisia tou demou" the gathering of the people 😉
      In Greek there is a entire family of words related to demos
      For example traditional " people's" songs are known as " demotica" popular people " demophilis" etc
      Basically almost everything having to do with popular or people's starts with demo- 😉

    • @Pavlos_Charalambous
      @Pavlos_Charalambous Před rokem

      @@Theraot exatly Dat 🙃😉

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 Před rokem

      @@Pavlos_Charalambous Yes, demos means people. But demotica is not demos, it's demotica, which means "popular". It's the same root with a suffix, just like in english.
      People's song, how could we say that? Oh yeah, popular song :p
      Popular means "from the people" before meaning "famous", you know that right? A popular song now means a famous song, but originally it's a song from the people, we still use it in that sense for the popular class, another word for the working class.
      I don't really understand your answer ^^'

  • @cookiesquirrel772
    @cookiesquirrel772 Před 12 dny

    How unbelievably amazing. Can you just imagine, you personally unlock the secret to a long lost civilization and are the first person since its fall to successfully understand what was left behind? Man was deservingly overwhelmed when he ran to his brrother!

  • @onehitkill5816
    @onehitkill5816 Před rokem +1

    The Rosetta stone along with some other pieces on how to speak egyptian really did unlock our understanding of Egypt and its great past.

  • @davidwilliam9681
    @davidwilliam9681 Před rokem +16

    They thought they'd find powerful lost knowledge, and they only found out about tax law from a defunct regime.

    • @andyjay729
      @andyjay729 Před rokem +4

      Hey, 2000 years from now some future archaeologists will probably decipher the lost English language by reading the Spanish and Hmong translations of the "if you need a translation, please call this number" section of some random healthcare or financial documents.

    • @_wayward_494
      @_wayward_494 Před rokem +1

      Did you watch the video? The powerful lost knowledge of the hieroglyphs was regained thanks to this stone

    • @davidwilliam9681
      @davidwilliam9681 Před rokem

      @_wayward_494 And what good was it? Did it contain the secret to immortality or anti-gravity? No, just taxes. Not even useful because that regime stopped collecting taxes over a thousand years ago. Obsolete information about taxes.

  • @bartz0rt928
    @bartz0rt928 Před rokem +3

    8:48 pet peeve: "millennia" is plural. The singular form is "millennium". Like the Backstreet Boys album.

  • @MauriceBear
    @MauriceBear Před rokem +3

    I would suggest a proper food plan in place for Extra History, nice to have sponsors like Factor but a food plan would help majorly.
    Also Napoleon himself had a foe waiting for him in the wings: Bnuuies.

  • @drallagon
    @drallagon Před rokem +2

    While linguistics was just barely born as a science at that time, the act of comparing languages described is work of its predecessor: Philology. It wasn't until Saussure in the early 1900's that the linguistics would pick up steam, as far as I remember.

  • @johnnybadboy3475
    @johnnybadboy3475 Před rokem +2

    SO GLAD to see this in my subscription feed!

  • @thibs2837
    @thibs2837 Před rokem +5

    Bravo Champollion !

  • @cultuschoco
    @cultuschoco Před rokem +3

    Omg, literally saw it today and there’s a video now on CZcams, thank you so much Extra Credit!

    • @bobs_toys
      @bobs_toys Před rokem +1

      It feels weird to actually see stuff like this.

  • @ursleiter5611
    @ursleiter5611 Před rokem +3

    Sometimes, a leap in understanding is solely due to blind luck.
    I wonder what else is locked under sand and rocks.

  • @masterfarah4615
    @masterfarah4615 Před rokem +16

    Of course the Rosetta Stone was about taxes

    • @fakjbf3129
      @fakjbf3129 Před rokem +5

      The other possibility was complaining about low quality copper ore.

    • @Paludion
      @Paludion Před rokem +1

      And the Egyptians were obsessed with death. Fitting.

    • @AlRoderick
      @AlRoderick Před rokem +3

      Most writing was about taxes for most of the history of writing.

    • @AlbertaGeek
      @AlbertaGeek Před rokem +2

      @@fakjbf3129 "I understood that reference." - Capt. Steve Rogers, U.S. Army (retd.)

  • @ikeekieeki
    @ikeekieeki Před rokem +1

    what an amazing story, and well-told

  • @theanglo-lithuanian1768

    Fascinating. Great video!

  • @ambroiseperret6460
    @ambroiseperret6460 Před rokem +1

    what a great episode thank you Extra History

  • @Richforce1
    @Richforce1 Před rokem +3

    You'd think people would now start calling it the Rashid Stone.

  • @ASpaceOstrich
    @ASpaceOstrich Před rokem +3

    I *still* hear that heiroglyphics are pictograms and that never made any sense to me, because you can't make a language using only pictures of things. It just doesn't work. You can't draw a picture of so many complex concepts. Glad to know that thats not the case.

  • @dosierchannel6387
    @dosierchannel6387 Před 4 měsíci

    Now that’s the best way to do an ad! Good job! Quick and subtle not an entire five minutes of your video

  • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061

    Kanji is an ideograph like a lot of Sino-Chinese, but kana are syllabary: So represent sound, but 2 sounds at the same time.
    か for example is "hiragana ka"
    火- though is an ideograph for fire, which translates into Korean, Chinese and Japanese. (Korean and Japanese borrow Chinese ideographs, not sounds, but aren't related to Chinese. Like English is a Germanic language, but borrows heavily from Latin)
    Calling Chinese "symbols" is also off, but I suppose there isn't enough time for linguistic talk.
    瀑 (waterfall) for example has the radical water which is taken from the character: 海(sea) such radicals can influence the meaning and the sound of the word. Making 瀑 a compound ideograph. (There's another one that has a dragon, (Eastern) and water in front that also means waterfall) But Chinese is more isolating than English in terms of grammar and more noun-based as well.
    Sorry, my inner linguist feels a bit irked. I get it was a throw away line, but still... I got this huge lecture from one of my professors about it, so I thought I would pass the knowledge down.
    BTW, there's a solid argument that all writing systems are ideographs, but that's way too far into linguistics and off topic of this video. Sorry to interrupt your regular programming.

    • @timothystamm3200
      @timothystamm3200 Před rokem

      What because most alphabets are modified hieroglyphs?

    • @geoffreyherrick298
      @geoffreyherrick298 Před rokem +1

      Seeing how Chinese ideograms evolved from pictographs really helped me to understand what I was reading. What's in a Chinese Character by Tan Huay Peng was my Rosetta Stone!

    • @geoffreyherrick298
      @geoffreyherrick298 Před rokem +1

      There is also the onyomi for Chinese readings and kunyomi for Japanese readings. An example would be Kou for onyomi and Kuchi or Guchi for kunyomi.

    • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
      @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 Před rokem

      @@geoffreyherrick298 You should have recognized that 火 is read か as in the word for Tuesday in Japanese. ;) But the common reading is ひ. But technically my professor said to me that they are compound ideographs, and gave me a huge paper about it. Some of them look literal like "water dragon" or "person sitting" is a woman... but some of the compounds are made up of sound and pictures and various concepts and ideas put together, which can shift meaning from imported language as they interpret the meaning differently.

    • @barbaros99
      @barbaros99 Před rokem

      It's stuff like this that makes me so glad Koreans decided to make their common written language syllabary instead of ideographic. It made it so much easier to learn (which was the whole point of Hangeul).

  • @EllpaFox47
    @EllpaFox47 Před rokem +4

    “I also can’t eat the Rosetta Stone”
    Well you’re just not trying hard enough Matt!

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430

    Love your videos guys! So imformativr!😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @KhakiLuckyLabbot
    @KhakiLuckyLabbot Před měsícem

    Awesome content.

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro Před 7 měsíci

    what a fascinating tale we do not hear enough about

  • @Nyst2
    @Nyst2 Před rokem +14

    I wonder what the Egyptian reaction to his visit was. There arrived a man from far away who could read a language no-one in your own country, not even your scholars, could read for centuries.
    Could you imagine? If a stranger arrived in your home state, being able to solve an ancient mystery that none of you could?

    • @Darkgun231
      @Darkgun231 Před rokem +5

      Awed but miffed would be my assumption.

    • @joshuanishanthchristian5217
      @joshuanishanthchristian5217 Před rokem +9

      @@Darkgun231 Apparently they gifted him, and France in general, an obelisk

    • @KH-wm5yi
      @KH-wm5yi Před rokem

      this is simply not true. plenty of egyptian priests used to and still speak coptic and he in fact inlisted their help to translate but their story isnt included because it isnt useful to the narrative

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před rokem +5

      ​@@KH-wm5yi Coptic priests still couldn't read hieroglyphics tho.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před rokem +1

      Foreign scholars arriving in Minsk and uncovering the Belarusian language to few surviving locals, 2100, colorized.

  • @GamerFromJump
    @GamerFromJump Před rokem

    Congrats on Episode 150!

  • @kamayomama3980
    @kamayomama3980 Před rokem +1

    Another great video

  • @xboxplayer3788
    @xboxplayer3788 Před rokem +10

    I love the original art style for extra history!

  • @jonmararbiter0721
    @jonmararbiter0721 Před rokem

    Yay I’m glad you post

  • @dawesome_sauce
    @dawesome_sauce Před rokem +2

    "...I also can't *eat* the Rosetta Stone." That's quitter talk right there!

  • @kingmink138
    @kingmink138 Před rokem +1

    10 minutes live and u got 2.4k already. Keep up the good work

  • @hemberger91
    @hemberger91 Před rokem +3

    Can’t eat the Rosetta Stone? Not with that attitude!

  • @dalecooper9942
    @dalecooper9942 Před měsícem

    Thanks for explaining how champollion deciphered the hieroglyphs, Greek, and the demoniac language

  • @alex_zetsu
    @alex_zetsu Před rokem +8

    5:50 Japanese is not entirely logographic like Chinese. Kanji is Logographic, like how our symbols like emojis or the number "3," or most of the Chinese language. But kana, like Hiragana is a syllabary. It's not an alphabet but it is a phonetic script.

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um Před rokem +1

    The term 'Rosetta Stone' is now used to refer to the essential clue to a new field of knowledge.

  • @012689
    @012689 Před rokem +7

    The Rosetta stone was scrap construction material? Makes you think how many historical artifacts have been destroyed in such a manner over the years.

    • @bobs_toys
      @bobs_toys Před rokem +1

      Walk around the forum sometime, and think about where everything went.

    • @greg_mca
      @greg_mca Před rokem

      The reason why ruined castles are so empty and hollow (or gone entirely) is almost always because the cut stone was cheaper to dismantle and build houses with than making materials fresh. The walls of farms used to be battlements but they're much more useful now keeping sheep in than armies out

  • @aldbgbnkladg
    @aldbgbnkladg Před rokem +1

    6:21, I didn't know Egyptians had a hieroglyph for the wifi icon... 🤔😉🤣

  • @Koffee_Kake1941
    @Koffee_Kake1941 Před rokem +9

    9:09 "I also can't eat the Rosetta Stone..."
    Not with that attitude.
    Jokes aside, excellent video. I love your channel's work.

  • @l3ete1geuse
    @l3ete1geuse Před rokem +1

    So much history I wish I had been told about in school.

  • @Galistarwater
    @Galistarwater Před 3 měsíci

    We need at least one episode on the great Giovanni Belzoni and his contribution to early Egyptology.

  • @flammamancer
    @flammamancer Před rokem

    I learn something new in these videos. I always assumed the Rosetta stone was made in the bronze age and not the Ptolemy dynasty.

  • @jointhearumanati8574
    @jointhearumanati8574 Před 4 měsíci

    You know making the discovery of the century running to your siblings house and fainting is honestly not an overreaction like mood

  • @pdruiz2005
    @pdruiz2005 Před 6 měsíci +1

    At 4:19. Interestingly enough, that was also the problem with ancient Mayan hieroglyphs. Lots of linguists thought this was an ideographic script, and their findings held sway over Maya studies for centuries. But that made the script even more complex and incomprehensible. It was only in the 1970s that archeologists and linguists realized that the script was a mixture of ideograms and phonetic sounds. Adding to the seemingly insurmountable complexity, the Mayans also had the nasty habit of linking one common sound to four or five symbols, similar to the way modern Chinese does. Which just multiplied the ways you could get something wrong. Deciphering of a lot Mayan hieroglyphs continues to this day. But a good 80% to 85% has been deciphered. Yay!!!

  • @YuzuruHakushaku
    @YuzuruHakushaku Před rokem +2

    let me tell you how ancient Persian, Emilite and Babylonian decoded: after Napoleon went back to France and after that called his men in Iran which were there as the first teachers of modern army in Iran, British came and revisited ancient Persian lands. in 1802 Georg Friedrich Grotefend realized there are so many repeated words, he said since these texts are Persian and Persian monarchs in their declarations always say I am king of kings of Iran, I am (a name) son of (a name) with all titles so maybe it is same for ancient times, he also said since by Greeks we know Bistun for example made by Darius the great so the name should be him and we know his father's name and his father's. but Georg did a mistake, he used the Western pronunciations. until Henry Rawlinson came, he wished to see Ancient Persia so listed in British army (in fact east Indian company) and came to India, he fled to Iran and when arrived to Bistun, an inscription about how Darius was victorious vs rebellions... in three languages, Persian, Emilite and Babylonian. so Henry hanged himself from the mountain and wrote all of it in 1835. and he decoded all of those three plus since Assyrian inscriptions have two languages as well (with Babylonian) he decoded that one as well, so all hail to SIR HENRY RAWLINSON 1th.

  • @Nolaris3
    @Nolaris3 Před rokem +4

    6:58 This Italian strongman (a.k.a. The Great Belzoni) probably deserves his own episode

  • @joshuaaddaeandcartoons

    Lesss gooo a new vid

  • @silveryuno
    @silveryuno Před rokem +1

    8:35 What a moment that must have been...

  • @ThePkmage
    @ThePkmage Před rokem +3

    I had the pleasure of seeing this tablet in the British museum. it's bigger than I expected and is incredible

  • @Naiwaqp
    @Naiwaqp Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks!

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you so much for supporting the show!

  • @deniseeulert2503
    @deniseeulert2503 Před rokem +1

    Oh this is a great story.

  • @an0idiot0of0use
    @an0idiot0of0use Před rokem +1

    You can't tell me what to do!
    Can't eat the Rosetta Stone? Pffft! Watch me!

  • @darreljones8645
    @darreljones8645 Před rokem +1

    Always fun to see footage of the real Zoey during the sponsor segment.

  • @idle_weirdo
    @idle_weirdo Před rokem +2

    You can't eat stones 😢. But you can eat mummy's. Any guess how many mummy's these guys ate?

  • @christianbollore7677
    @christianbollore7677 Před rokem +1

    Japanese writing system also usues a mix of ideographic and phonetic, not just ideographic

    • @chris7263
      @chris7263 Před rokem

      Chinese does as well, actually, though the phonetic characters blend in better. And even the ideographic characters often have phonetic elements in them to differentiate from other similar characters…. I wonder if this is true of all ideographic writing systems that have to represent a full language.

  • @_resource-guy1878
    @_resource-guy1878 Před rokem +2

    Can you do a Lawrence of Arabia series, he has a really interesting background with great knowledge and ability

  • @sevenguardians7517
    @sevenguardians7517 Před rokem +1

    I finally started hello fresh and yeah it’s worth it thanks for recommending it to me

  • @carlsagan2607
    @carlsagan2607 Před rokem +2

    In an alternate universe someone just looked at it as something they could break.

  • @chrishamilton7516
    @chrishamilton7516 Před 7 měsíci

    British Write graffiti on priceless ancient artifact.
    Every Historian: BRING ME SOME TEA AND A HARBOR.

  • @mattiemathis9549
    @mattiemathis9549 Před měsícem

    Great video! I’ve heard of the Rosetta Stone but I thought it was something like a “Batman decoder” made out of rocks. I do realize how stupid that sounds now, but that is why content like this is so important. Thanks!

  • @ambroiseperret6460
    @ambroiseperret6460 Před rokem +6

    The lesson of the day :
    -The French found
    -The British keep

  • @peterseeganna8238
    @peterseeganna8238 Před rokem +3

    Is it just me or is the animation in this different?

  • @hallamhal
    @hallamhal Před rokem +1

    If you're covering Egyptology, is a video on The Great Belzoni on the cards?

  • @generalnawaki
    @generalnawaki Před rokem +1

    9:01 And whole chapters of Human history were finally within or grasp.