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    So you haven't read Bram Stoker's Dracula? The classic tale of one man's travel journal that triumphs over the undead using technology and a little detective work? No? Then pull up a seat and join us for this epistolary tale of spooky vampires and Victorian intrigue!
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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  Před 2 lety +81

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    • @dimitrivavoulis2184
      @dimitrivavoulis2184 Před 2 lety +1

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    • @NarocoSuper
      @NarocoSuper Před 2 lety +1

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    • @9tailedKitsune
      @9tailedKitsune Před 2 lety +3

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    • @dimitrivavoulis2184
      @dimitrivavoulis2184 Před 2 lety +2

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    • @pawerRanjerah
      @pawerRanjerah Před 2 lety

      I like the other narrator.

  • @rolfs2165
    @rolfs2165 Před 2 lety +1170

    One thing these retellings somehow always get wrong: van Helsing doesn't decorate the room with garlic _bulbs_ but garlic _flowers._

    • @Waffletimewarp
      @Waffletimewarp Před 2 lety +205

      Also the exclusion of Quincy Morris. The man who organized every fight in the book, decided that Winchester rifles would be a proper addition to their arsenal, straight up shot Dracula when he was a bat, and was the one who actually staked Dracula in the heart with a BOWIE KNIFE. After finally reading the book, the exclusion of QM in every adaptation is criminal to me.

    • @wajmgirl
      @wajmgirl Před 2 lety +32

      @@Waffletimewarp isn’t he in the film with Gary oldman?

    • @MaaZeus
      @MaaZeus Před 2 lety +17

      @@wajmgirl Yes he is.

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow Před 2 lety +48

      @@Waffletimewarp He was the very model of Texan Gentleman. The master of matters of fighting and agrarian.

    • @badluck5647
      @badluck5647 Před 2 lety +49

      That is probably because film media found garlic bulbs easier to find at the grocery store for props than growing garlic flowers.

  • @DragoniteSpam
    @DragoniteSpam Před 2 lety +927

    "Victory delivered with the help of the train schedules" has got to be the most Victorian sentence I've ever heard.

    • @Xagzan
      @Xagzan Před 2 lety +32

      Ancient vampire magic is no match for good sense and punctiliousness.

    • @davidtownsend6092
      @davidtownsend6092 Před 2 lety +19

      I prefer "one of the french officials escaped the siege of paris with a hot air balloon'

    • @solomonsheridan8272
      @solomonsheridan8272 Před 2 lety +11

      Bismarck would be proud

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin Před 2 lety +1

      Dracula's true nemesis was Bradshaw's Guide

    • @garethfuller2700
      @garethfuller2700 Před 2 lety +4

      I mean, part of why the Prussians were able to put a smack down on the French in the Franco-Prussian war was due to Moltke's ability to mobilize faster, and get his armies where they needed to be. A large part of that was taking advantage of railways, and organizing things so that men and material could get where they needed to be, and *fast*.

  • @Waffletimewarp
    @Waffletimewarp Před 2 lety +280

    “A wolf appears.” Is a pretty weak change from the canon scene where Dracula steals the wolf from the local zoo and straight up THROWS said wolf through the window.

    • @dianagoenaga7263
      @dianagoenaga7263 Před 2 lety +21

      He's so dramatic 😂

    • @phousefilms
      @phousefilms Před 11 měsíci +3

      YEET!

    • @zoroearc2582
      @zoroearc2582 Před 9 měsíci +17

      Yeah, one of my favourite moments in the book is the newspaper report of the very bewildered looking wolf returning to the zoo

  • @alexandreancel6423
    @alexandreancel6423 Před 2 lety +514

    I would add that one of Dracula's most important themes to me is the deep respect, friendship and dedication bounding the heroes together, each of them, including Mina, being ready to sacrifice oneself for the others.

    • @technelligence
      @technelligence Před 2 lety +15

      this, exactly this!

    • @TheDarthbinky
      @TheDarthbinky Před 2 lety +42

      So you're saying it's not about the journey but the friends we made along the way?

    • @alexandreancel6423
      @alexandreancel6423 Před 2 lety +10

      @@TheDarthbinky Exactly ! :)

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision Před 2 lety +5

      That’s really beautiful

    • @nathanielleack4842
      @nathanielleack4842 Před 2 lety +9

      I love that all the men gave their blood to try and save Lucy and never held it against eachother that they all proposed to her going completely against my expectations going in

  • @Ajehy
    @Ajehy Před 2 lety +527

    I’m surprised you view Lucy as “modern” and “tainted”, while Mina is “pure”. Lucy never courts multiple men-she sees Quincy and Seward as friends, not love prospects, and turns them both down before accepting her beloved Arthur’s proposal. There’s no jealousy after that, they really all do remain friends, and the men’s attempt to save her are painted as chivalrous, gallant, and selfless. It’s her purity that makes her Undeath so tragic, as even the sweet and gentle Lucy can be corrupted into a child-eating monster by Dracula.
    Mina, meanwhile, is closer to the “new woman” she is fond of referring to in her diaries. She brings up the possibility of “doing the proposing herself”, is clever and independent, and wields out a rifle in the final battle to brutal effect. In fact, the men imposing Victorian social standards on her, by trying to keep her out of the loop, always ends badly.

    • @emmarichardson965
      @emmarichardson965 Před 2 lety +100

      He also missed that using Mina to track Dracula was actually Mina's idea! As was compiling the diaries, newspapers, and logs.

    • @TheMewtata
      @TheMewtata Před rokem +47

      By modern standards, both are lovely ladies. But it’s worth considering what the original audience might have considered. And by that time period, even being courted by three men might be considered impure? It implies that she encouraged the affections of all three? (Yes I know it’s problematic)
      I like your modern reading though. Is fun!

    • @thedemonhater7748
      @thedemonhater7748 Před rokem +14

      I’d say that she does infact view the other two as romantic prospects, but her affection becomes platonic after she chooses her love.

    • @GarkKahn
      @GarkKahn Před 11 měsíci

      It's always interesting to see how much perspectives can change from a time to another, what one thing can be seen as evil can be seen as the opposite or even something ordinary
      Like ancient myths

    • @GarkKahn
      @GarkKahn Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@TheMewtatai've read cases like that and in our modern standard that's just simple victim blaming, that's why we shouldn't judge things by OUR standards, maybe back then it was an act of justice to murder 10000 women and children just because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but it's funny to compare them

  • @jacobklein5543
    @jacobklein5543 Před 2 lety +213

    It's been a few years since I read Dracula so I might be misremembering this, but I really didn't get the impression that Lucy was supposed to be a modern, liberated woman leading along three men at once. In fact, I remember the complete opposite. The impression I got was that Lucy was just so dang sweet and innocent and beautiful and kind that all three of her suitors were just naturally drawn to her. I mean, all three of them proposed to her in the same day and she was so polite and considerate about the whole thing that the two rejected suitors were cool with it and remained good friends with her and her fiancé. If anything, the message of Lucy being turned into a vampire was that Dracula seeks out that which is pure and good and will do anything to corrupt it, to drag innocence down to his level. That's why seeing how brutal vampire Lucy was was so shocking: it was a complete reversal of everything she represented when she was alive.
    Also, I think it's important to mention that, before Lucy's mother was killed, she threw out all of the garlic blossoms (not bulbs) in her room and opened the window because she wasn't let in on the whole plan and thought that the strong smell of garlic would be unhealthy and it would be good to let in some fresh air. Her making that mistake was the thing that doomed Lucy in the end. Given how central the group communicating with each other is to their success later, it really served to show the reader how important it is to make sure everyone is on the same page.

    • @screamingalgae9380
      @screamingalgae9380 Před 6 měsíci +3

      One detail: They didn't tell Lucy's mother what was going on because of her heart condition (she then dies anyway when the wolf gives her a heart attack).

    • @jacobklein5543
      @jacobklein5543 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@screamingalgae9380 Ah yeah, I did forget that part. Still doesn't negate my point though. They could have at least said something like "don't remove the garlic blossoms because the doctor says they purify the air" or whatever would have been the lingo for that at the time.

  • @randalthor741
    @randalthor741 Před 2 lety +224

    Dracula is definitely one of those books that feels so far ahead of its time, both in terms of how it explores some of its themes (although some of the attitudes behind those themes do feel pretty out of date today), and in terms of its structure with the different narrative sources.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 2 lety +11

      Victorian sensibilities are so weird now like in the movie version, Dracula's true love for his mistress looks amazing, and poor Mina marrying the frigid Harker in the end is the rear horror, I rooted for Oldman over Reeves seriously... Literally the Mel Brooks parody roasted Jonathan's character being taught to repress passion (and Keanu's poor acting) badly while making fun of the Bri'ish in the process.

    • @randalthor741
      @randalthor741 Před 2 lety +2

      @@KasumiRINA so true!

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 2 lety +2

      @@randalthor741 Dracula and Addams Family have the best love stories somehow.

  • @dramajoe
    @dramajoe Před 2 lety +103

    There's an excellent board game called Fury of Dracula (look for the third or fourth edition) which surprisingly captures the literary work better than any other adaptation. One player plays Dracula who moves around a map of Europe secretly, leaving behind a trail of vampires and traps, while the other players play Van Hellsing, Mina Harker, John Steward, and Lord Godalming trying to find and slay him. A major part of the game is collecting train tickets and planning routes around Europe.

    • @GarrettPetersen
      @GarrettPetersen Před 2 lety +4

      Yes! I love hidden movement games.

    • @ValerieEnriquez
      @ValerieEnriquez Před 2 lety +5

      One time we made the mistake of sending Mina after Dracula (I think she happened to be the closest to him or we were running out of time or something), but since she was bitten once already... yeah we lost.

    • @phousefilms
      @phousefilms Před 11 měsíci

      Just got that a few weeks ago.

  • @Nightwalker-zk6ce
    @Nightwalker-zk6ce Před 2 lety +145

    I don’t know if I completely agree with the interpretation that Lucy is supposed to represent a modern woman. From what I’ve been able to gather, it wasn’t incredibly unusual for women in the Victorian era to have multiple suitors at once, what’s unusual about Lucy’s situation is that they all proposed to her on the same day. The fact that these three men are so in love with her is also pretty much the only character trait that Lucy has too, it seems like all she ever talks about is getting married and living a typical Victorian life. I’ve read the novel a couple of times and it always sticks out to me how completely focused on traditional Victorian romance Lucy is.
    Mina on the other hand has her own job, travels across Europe on her own to go see Jonathan when he’s sick after escaping the castle, stands up for herself when the other characters say they don’t think it would be right or proper for her as a woman to come hunt down Dracula with them, and possibly the most important thing symbolically, Mina is constantly using technology like typewriters and wax cylinders, which as the video notes were incredibly new at the time.
    Another interesting consideration is the way both women view their fiancés, Lucy never really speaks about loving any of the men that much, and it’s seems to be of secondary importance to her when she’s trying to decide who to marry, all three of the suitors too only seem to want to marry Lucy because she’s beautiful. Mina meanwhile is constantly talking about how much she loves Jonathan, and he’s also always going on about how great she is and how he loves her so much, with neither one overly focused on the appearance of the other.

    • @Oxtocoatl13
      @Oxtocoatl13 Před 2 lety +13

      Lucy is always slut-shamed in the adaptations but for me at least it was clear that she is portrayed as an innocent victim to be avenged. She received three proposals but she makes it clear that Holmwood is the one she wants to marry. Mina is indeed much more modern, in fact she is so modern that she has a line where she basically says "Don't worry guys I'm not a feminist and I firmly believe in traditional gender roles" so the victorian readership wouldn't be alarmed by her independence and behavior.

    • @kmaher1424
      @kmaher1424 Před 2 lety +18

      I agree. Lucy is courted by three gentlemen, quite chastely. She picks the most high born, wealthiest candidate.
      Mina is devoted to her fiance / husband but is independent minded and deals with modern technology.

    • @Nightwalker-zk6ce
      @Nightwalker-zk6ce Před 2 lety +14

      @@Oxtocoatl13 I definitely agree that the main purpose of her character is being someone to be avenged, even though I kind of ragged on how one-dimensional she is, she’s shown to be a good and kind person who doesn’t deserve what happens to her. Her fast decline and death also increase the stakes (punk kind of intended) when Mina gets bitten.
      Mina’s more modern personality might not be the only think Stoker tried to sneak past polite Victorian society either. I’ve read interpretations before that every time someone is bitten or blood is exchanged in the novel it’s supposed to be an allegory for sex, which was something you absolutely did not discuss or even really mention in the era. The idea is that Stoker wanted to talk about taboo subjects without ruining his reputation as an author and playwright.

    • @reginaldokeke8354
      @reginaldokeke8354 Před 2 lety +2

      Very brilliant insights, I've read the book too.

    • @mrZanZibar777
      @mrZanZibar777 Před 2 lety +9

      Yeah I definitely did a spit take when this video characterized these characters backwards. Mina is the modern woman, Lucy is the Victorian standard.

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater Před 2 lety +181

    While I haven't actually read Dracula, I HAVE listened to the audiobook read by the late, great Christopher Lee.
    Highly recommended if you can find it.

    • @hrothgargo7615
      @hrothgargo7615 Před 2 lety +19

      Christopher Lee? That Exists? I just finished rereading, but I'd listen the hell out of that!

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 Před 2 lety +10

      I'm not a fan of audiobooks ut Dracula read by Dracula could be cool ^^

    • @cheezemonkeyeater
      @cheezemonkeyeater Před 2 lety +9

      @@hrothgargo7615 Yes, it exists. I've also got his reading of Frankenstein and am trying to get my hands on The Hunchback of Notre Dame, but all the copies of it I've found were absurdly expensive.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin Před 2 lety +3

      @@krankarvolund7771 There's another one, with Tim Curry as Van Helsing

    • @Nightcore-336
      @Nightcore-336 Před 2 lety +1

      The audiobook ver.of Dracula readen by a actor before his pasing played the charter in the movie of the same name in the 50s

  • @shawnheatherly
    @shawnheatherly Před 2 lety +155

    I never knew how the story was told through a series of journals, letters, and newspaper clips. That's really cool.

    • @9tailedKitsune
      @9tailedKitsune Před 2 lety +22

      Yeah. Just like Frankenstein, if you've only seen movies and never read the book, you have never actually experienced the real story.

    • @pauldwalker
      @pauldwalker Před 2 lety +3

      read it. it’s still a “modern” read.

    • @michaelbushee3968
      @michaelbushee3968 Před 2 lety +11

      It's also a surprisingly smooth and easy read, and also legitimately creepy in a way none of its adaptations or imitators manage. Give it a scan sometime.

    • @rashkavar
      @rashkavar Před 2 lety +6

      It's very readable, aside from the incredibly bizarre thing about marriage proposals. Just....don't read the table of contents. Ignore it entirely.

    • @JanTuts
      @JanTuts Před 2 lety +2

      A modern book that does something similar is "World War Z" (_completely_ different and much better than the movie, BTW): it's all framed as a reporter interviewing survivors.

  • @shawnconway6009
    @shawnconway6009 Před 2 lety +136

    This book is basically an at the time catalogue of cool new stuff. Ergo, all the transfusions and hypnosis and stuff.

  • @marcmcdonnell6586
    @marcmcdonnell6586 Před 2 lety +85

    I’ve already scene the summary of Dracula from Overly Sarcastic Productions. From an interesting fact were Stoker never met a Texan in his life.

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz Před 2 lety +5

      Saw that too!

    • @kyleyoung5063
      @kyleyoung5063 Před 2 lety +1

      I wish I never met Texans

    • @e4ehco21
      @e4ehco21 Před 2 lety +1

      Osp literally called quincy proof that Bram stoker had never talked to an American

    • @nightrose1834
      @nightrose1834 Před 2 lety

      That summary of the book is the best I ever seen

    • @Nightcore-336
      @Nightcore-336 Před 2 lety

      Same and Van Hallsing serious face

  • @marshmallow927
    @marshmallow927 Před 2 lety +190

    It's the way Harker wasn't immediately sus when Dracula looked at his blood for me-

  • @YouW00t
    @YouW00t Před 2 lety +90

    Something to point out about the chase after Lucy's death, the crew points out how wonderful is the power of bribery and money as they use their pockets and some booze to get that sweet schedule as fast and orderly as possible.

    • @alucard347
      @alucard347 Před 2 lety +24

      the way they break into Dracula's houses in London is also great.
      they just pretend these are their houses (with the one I always forget his name being of noble birth helping), invide a professional lockpicker, and then enter the house in the middle of the day as if it's their own, so no one will suspect a thing.

    • @toprak3479
      @toprak3479 Před 2 lety +10

      @@alucard347 It's Lord Godalming. And I love that part as well. Power of aristocracy LET'S GOO

    • @alucard347
      @alucard347 Před 2 lety +2

      @@toprak3479 indeed!

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan Před 2 lety +3

      @@alucard347 Yep, that was smart. XD I remember enjoying that when I read the book.

    • @anyways4438
      @anyways4438 Před 2 lety +2

      @@toprak3479 also known as "Art"

  • @Oxtocoatl13
    @Oxtocoatl13 Před 2 lety +121

    I slightly disagree with the reading that Lucy's being liberated is framed as a deviation that the story punishes. In the letters it is made clear that the proposal from Holmwood is the only one Lucy wanted, and she expresses deep anxiety and anguish over having to turn down the other men. She isn't so much a player as one of those doe-eyed gals everyone falls for. That being said, as her disease progresses, she becomes more flirtatious (though only towards her fiancee, which remains true after she dies). Stoker repeatedly describes her as "voluptuous", which is framed as a bad and unsettling quality. Still, I think Lucy's reputation for getting slut-shamed has more to do with the various movie adaptations than the text itself, in which Lucy is clearly a victim, whose prolonged suffering is meant to make us anxious and scared when Mina is eventually also bitten.

    • @matthewnewman3724
      @matthewnewman3724 Před 2 lety +11

      Just sounds like good writing put emotional investment into Lucy with her being a character in a dynamic situation . She dies showing stakes of the situation. Mina who had a slower emotional investment is now under the same situation with raised stakes. Then payoff

    • @SteamPoweredGoth
      @SteamPoweredGoth Před 2 lety +23

      I was literally about to slide in here and say this, this video really misses the point of that whole section of the book. Lucy is a sweet innocent bean and her death is a tragedy. That's kind of the point of her.

    • @noxtrin1878
      @noxtrin1878 Před 2 lety +2

      @@matthewnewman3724 haha ”stakes”

    • @matthewnewman3724
      @matthewnewman3724 Před 2 lety +1

      @@noxtrin1878 hahahaha

    • @mrZanZibar777
      @mrZanZibar777 Před 2 lety +2

      I think the adaptations that cast Lucy as the modern "slutty" woman really lack any type of nuance. She was courted by three men, remained chaste, and chose the one with the best situation in a loveless way. She was the model Victorian woman, and Mina was the modern woman, independent and getting married for love not station.

  • @LowSpecGamer
    @LowSpecGamer Před 2 lety +149

    Honestly, I had never heard anything of this book outside of Dracula´s depiction in popular media, and this epistolary approach makes it WAY more interesting than I though. Adding this book to my reading list.
    And thank you for the recommendation of my documentary at the end 😁

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 2 lety +2

      Frankenstein is also epistolary... they just had a thing for that in 19th century horror.

    • @fraelikkriil830
      @fraelikkriil830 Před 2 lety +4

      @@KasumiRINA not in the same way though tbh. Frankenstein doesn’t really do anything interesting with that format besides a complicated Russian nesting doll of perspectives.

    • @kyleyoung5063
      @kyleyoung5063 Před 2 lety +1

      Really? You never heard of this? Odd.

    • @Tortferngatr
      @Tortferngatr Před 2 lety

      I came to watch this after reading the book. The epistolary approach was definitely neat.

  • @Suntensatsu21
    @Suntensatsu21 Před 2 lety +29

    My colleagues and I are breaking down Dracula as part of our master's program. It's nice to see there is still so much interest in this novel. On a side note, I still think it's funny that when we think of van Helsing, we go to the dark haired grizzled man. In the text he is described as clean shaven with a broad chin, having what amounts to shoulder length red hair, blue eyes, a barrel-like chest, and overall manly with a capital M.

  • @Xagzan
    @Xagzan Před 2 lety +62

    Also fun to read are Dracula's predecessors, Carmilla and The Vampyre, both of which are much shorter and so easier to get through quickly. And no less atmospheric.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 2 lety +6

      This, and I wish they do an overview about that competition in Geneva that gave us both vampires AND Frankenstein.
      Imagine, a party at Lord Byron's cottage failing due to bad weather, leading to most famous romantic poets (Percy Shelley got so scared he jumped out of the room) and their gfs Mary and Claire, telling each other scary stories while doctor Polidori remembered enough to write a novel later.
      Literally most important parts of horror pop culture were created due to weather shenanigans making a bunch of bored, creative people try to scare each other. Original vampire stories were picked up by Byron from the Levant, and he kinda hated when they become popular, lol.

    • @Xagzan
      @Xagzan Před 2 lety +2

      @@KasumiRINA Sorry, the Levant? I don't really know that part. All I'm familiar with is how the vampire hysteria of eastern Europe in the 18th century spread over the decades across the continent, gradually influencing artists.

  • @sacramentum1988
    @sacramentum1988 Před rokem +13

    Harker doesn't escape by jumping in the river- that's Coppola's film. Harker, after seeing Dracula scaling the wall, realizes that he could do the same because the walls are so worn that there are essentially footholds. He scales the wall, and hobbles away.
    Also, it's made pretty clear in the book that the reason for giving Lucy all three men's blood is simply a matter of convenience, and practicality (at the time). Van Helsing didn't anticipate the problems that left Lucy unguarded and vulnerable to Dracula, meaning that he had to do three transfusions instead of the one. Each time he had to rely on a different person, in part because the amount of blood needed (As Quincy Morris observes) for one transfusion was so great as to be unsustainable. The transfusions are given in roughly the span of two weeks, and in two weeks no single person could give that much blood. Because the three healthy men are in proximity to Lucy during her struggle, they happily volunteer, even though Van Helsing initially discourages Seward from doing so.
    The use of garlic and the death of Mina's mother was described as if it happened in one night. Lucy's ordeal takes place over a good deal of time (roughly three chapters) and Dracula doesn't appear as a wolf until the event of her memorandum, when he drugs the maids and kills her mother. This sounds more, again, like the condensed version in Coppola's film.
    I question whether the person making this actually read the book- it sounds more like Cliff notes and Coppola to me.

  • @oberstul1941
    @oberstul1941 Před 2 lety +50

    Having transfusions from three men was probably done to show how drained of blood Lucy was; nevermind the fact that the blood types weren't discovered yet and most likely not all the donors were Lucy compatible. If the story was true, that ad-hoc blood transfusion might have killed her there and then. You're welcome, Watson! :))
    Cheers!

    • @alexdillahunt6908
      @alexdillahunt6908 Před 2 lety +8

      And the transfusions didn't occur on the same day. She would receive a transfusion, Dracula would drain her that night, van Helsing would call on a new person to give another transfusion, and repeat.

    • @OscarGomez-hg8cb
      @OscarGomez-hg8cb Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@alexdillahunt6908it was also the fancy new medical technique when the book was written, so not only it fit *perfectly* with the vampire theme but it was also a way for Bram Stocker to show off how smart Van Helsing is

  • @brockmckelvey7327
    @brockmckelvey7327 Před 2 lety +144

    My favorite thing about the book Dracula is that the first 4 chapters are a perfect spooky horror story, and the entire rest of the book is an Action Movie

    • @cavc94
      @cavc94 Před 2 lety +24

      I had the same impression until I re-read a couple months ago. But between the terror and the action is something closer to a detective novel. Specially when they are looking for Dracula's sarcophages.

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 Před 9 měsíci +5

      I’ve just finished reading and I can confirm that this book is more Sherlock Holmes than Stephen King.

    • @raptorhacker599
      @raptorhacker599 Před 9 měsíci +3

      ​@@MovieFan1912I think the writer was impressed by Sherlock Holmes.

  • @Rocketboy1313
    @Rocketboy1313 Před 2 lety +57

    Wow, this video takes a wildly different reading of Lucy than is typical.
    Often Lucy is seen as the traditional beauty who is sweet and innocent while Mina is considered modern and capable.
    The idea of the modern world killing off old ideas about women's roles is often read into the text.

    • @ryanmuth8954
      @ryanmuth8954 Před rokem +7

      That's a nice way of saying they completely misunderstood the book. I have absolutely no idea how anyone could read Lucy that way. They're basically attaching the modern horror trope of "if a female character has sex, she dies" to a novel that was written 125 years ago.

    • @StrokedGT
      @StrokedGT Před rokem +3

      He didn't read the book, he just saw the movie

  • @LadySnowfaerie
    @LadySnowfaerie Před 2 lety +23

    Not sure if I missed something, but to me Lucy didn't read as a modern woman dating three men at once. To be fair I'm not 100% sure how courting worked in Victorian England, but what I gathered from my read of the novel was that she was proposed to by three men in one day, but was only ever really interested in one of them and did her best to turn the other two down gently. In Lucy's own words: "Just fancy! Three proposals in one day! Isn't it awful! I feel sorry, really and truly sorry, for two of the poor fellows." (Lucy's letter to Mina on 24th of May, page 48 or thereabouts.)

  • @LoneTiger
    @LoneTiger Před 2 lety +64

    Van Helsing: _"She's almost dead."_
    Harker after being splashed by vampire blood: _"She's dead enough!"_

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 2 lety +11

      Harker, holding back laugh: "SO MUCH BLOOD!"
      Mel Brooks: "SHE JUST ATE!!!" *puts newspapers around*

    • @willhuey4462
      @willhuey4462 Před 2 lety +1

      that movie was hilarious.

  • @jannegrey593
    @jannegrey593 Před 2 lety +46

    I've read it. Surprisingly good book. Though if you know anything about transfusions - well they were damn lucky.

    • @kevinschultz6091
      @kevinschultz6091 Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah, in hearing about that, I was all "OK, WHAT's the stats of survival on that one?" Of course, she could have been a universal recipient (AB+), in which case she'd be fine...in the transfusion part. What's IN the blood, of course, might be a bit of an issue.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin Před 2 lety +4

      To be fair, blood transfusion was a brand new science at the time the book was written and blood typing and rejection weren't known about yet

  • @ivorytorea
    @ivorytorea Před 2 lety +58

    Dr. Seward is probably even to this day...or maybe once again in these days, one of the best portrayals of a psychiatrist/psych ward doctor in media.
    Nowadays they are pictured as everything in every kind of media BUT realistic humans. It´s like the more we understand of the field the more writers are scared to have them be anything less than controversial. Basically there is just three modes for them: They are allowed to be pointless know nothings that are a complete waste of space. Or they are portrayed as deeply entrenched in their own problems and basically do nothing for their patients but reflect problems back to them. Or the two ways to dehumanize them: Idolize them or make them be psychopaths.
    But the favourite passages in Dracula for me are those of when Dr. Seward watches over his patients and reflects not just upon the nature of their behaviour but also his own thought process about them in his diary entries. The fact that it was written over a hundred years ago and that we nowadays know of practices of the 1940s-1960s that speak to how curiously unaware we still were to completely normal human behaviour (even down to simple medical facts that body and mind are able to influence one another) makes it really interesting to pinpoint some of the sympathy he has for the regards of his patients wishes and needs. And the fact that he simply has a desire to do good work as a doctor and see inside his mind through those entries makes him stand out as a character simply trying to do good, for his patients, his friends and his own wellbeing. You know...what a normal sane and sympathic person should be like...

    • @kyleyoung5063
      @kyleyoung5063 Před 2 lety +5

      Sir this is a Wendy's

    • @terradisiena
      @terradisiena Před 2 lety +2

      I never thought of this, what a wonderful perspective. Thank you.

  • @undefined40
    @undefined40 Před 2 lety +62

    So that is the origin story for one of the "League of extraordinary Gentlemen" characters. Eager to watch your take on most of the others. :)

    • @sbatou87
      @sbatou87 Před 2 lety +7

      Also the origin of one of the most legendary anime vampires ever.

    • @ambarrose
      @ambarrose Před 2 lety +4

      League is such a great movie too. So underrated.

    • @SidheKnight
      @SidheKnight Před 2 lety +1

      @@ambarrose Agreed.

    • @Tortferngatr
      @Tortferngatr Před 2 lety

      @@sbatou87 Ah, yes, the Crimson Fuckr.

  • @TheKarishi
    @TheKarishi Před 2 lety +27

    For those who do opt to read it:
    It is worth mentioning, so that people are warned ahead of time, that Van Helsing is intentionally written as an incredibly bad writer. You'll have a much better time treating his segments of the book as a mid-novel session of code-cracking, or a kind of translation game.
    Also, "bloofer" is supposed to be lower-class children mispronouncing the word "beautiful."

    • @toprak3479
      @toprak3479 Před 2 lety +13

      Did you mean "Van Helsing is intentionally written as a bad English speaker"? Because there's only about one page worth of entry from van Helsing and that's towards the end of the book.

    • @Tighris
      @Tighris Před rokem +3

      van helsing is dutch in the book so he makes mistakes while speaking english, but I personally never had trouble understanding what he was trying to say. One should`t be discouraged to read the book because they might not understand van helsing.

  • @BlackJack-iu1jm
    @BlackJack-iu1jm Před 2 lety +32

    I’m so excited for this Halloween themed episode! October is the best month ever!!!!

  • @Mistborn_San
    @Mistborn_San Před 2 lety +11

    This is my favorite go to classic for the spooky season, for those who haven't read it I implore you to pick it up yourself, it is an amazing read.

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 Před 2 lety +12

    It really is a tragedy that most people's ideas of Dracula will always come from adaptations, rather than the great original book 😟

  • @benreilly9513
    @benreilly9513 Před 2 lety +10

    So what you're saying is that Bram Stoker's Dracula is a proto-Ghostbusters.

  • @thomascampbell127
    @thomascampbell127 Před 2 lety +7

    I am probably in the minority. I've read Dracula multiple times seen most of the movies many times and have written several fan fictions for school projects. Love IT.

  • @abthedragon4921
    @abthedragon4921 Před 2 lety +5

    That intro's giving me Extra Mythology vibes. And I am here for it!

  • @lycanbroadcastingnetwork
    @lycanbroadcastingnetwork Před 2 lety +6

    This video screams that Extra Credits might not have actually read Dracula

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 Před 2 lety +10

    I wonder how much of the epistolary narrative of Dracula inspired Resident Evil series.
    In all games of the franchise there is a diary or a document explaining Lore, by the eyes of an observer.

  • @marymccann3500
    @marymccann3500 Před 2 lety +1

    Dracula Daily's got me coming back to watch this.

  • @galning2768
    @galning2768 Před 2 lety +2

    This telling is great but osp’s video will always be my favorite.

  • @MTG_Scribe
    @MTG_Scribe Před 2 lety +1

    I'm loving this series so far.

  • @musicloverandclassicalmusi698

    you guys should do one on The Incredible Journey, its a great yet a bit underrated book
    it has a lot of very unique words

  • @Codraroll
    @Codraroll Před 2 lety +3

    For April Fools' Day, I hope you do an episode on The Very Hungry Caterpillar or a similar book.

  • @rlin
    @rlin Před 2 lety +1

    loving this new series! can't wait for more!

  • @hsgregorius
    @hsgregorius Před 2 lety +3

    My favorite parts of the novel is when jonathan starting to realize that he's trapped in the castle and lucy's death and resurrection as vampire. I got chills when i read it 😨

  • @sxeptomaniac
    @sxeptomaniac Před 2 lety +7

    Dracula is really interesting for how modern the format feels. It's only the way Stoker talks about women that really feels dated, IMO. A lot of older novels can be paced very differently than modern ones, but Dracula's pacing doesn't seem to have that problem.

  • @TheNN
    @TheNN Před 2 lety +5

    "I see Van Helsing, you are the kind of man who likes to have the last word. I will not be drawn into such a childish exercise." - Dracula, probably.

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 Před rokem

      FUSHTA!

    • @justasoulsfan9805
      @justasoulsfan9805 Před 8 měsíci

      Quite Ironic, since Dracula in the novel pretty much acts like a brat. Not to mention he's literally described as having a child-like mind by Van Helsing and Mina.

  • @user-qj7qq6lw2n
    @user-qj7qq6lw2n Před 2 lety +1

    This series is one of the best. Love this series much ❤️

  • @ryanclark6402
    @ryanclark6402 Před 2 lety +10

    AAH! No mention of the most interesting character in the book- RENFIELD! Do we just dismiss him as an “insane minion” of a “dark lord,” or can we really examine his theory of finite “life” quanta and the ingestion thereof (fly to spider to sparrow to cat, etc)? It was likely somewhat revolutionary in its day, pertains to the overall scientific bent of the novel (think Darwin, Linnaeus, etc), and nearly perfectly foreshadowed our current discussions of energy consumption from sun to plant to animal and the nature and consequences of modern food production.
    That, and in 8th grade I named my pet mouse Renfield in honor of the character…. :)

    • @Suntensatsu21
      @Suntensatsu21 Před 2 lety +2

      I always feel disappointed that most adaptations leave him out. He's also essential to the plot in that it is because of him that Dracula is able to reach Mina in the first place. That and if played right he could work really well as an unsettling human antagonist.

    • @Zimisce85
      @Zimisce85 Před 2 lety

      Was it Mel Brooks who merged Harker and Reinfield into one character (the minion, spider-eater, former solicitor)? Or he was parodying another adaptation?

    • @williamrosen3179
      @williamrosen3179 Před 2 lety +1

      "Renfeild, you asshole!" -Dracula, as played by Leslie Neilson

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 Před rokem

      @@Zimisce85 Probably parody. A lot of adaptations leave Jonathan out despite the first 5 chapters having some very signature moments.

  • @albertamalachi3560
    @albertamalachi3560 Před 2 lety +2

    _Bloody Tears is heard in the distance._
    "What is a man? A pile of secrets!"

  • @Bethelaine1
    @Bethelaine1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Enter freely and of your own will, the scariest invitation I can imagine.

  • @Murnauk
    @Murnauk Před 2 lety +9

    Uhm…Mina represents the modern women, Lucy is more in line w/ the more antiquated victorian ideal…

    • @billdehappy1
      @billdehappy1 Před 2 lety

      nope

    • @Nightwalker-zk6ce
      @Nightwalker-zk6ce Před 2 lety +10

      That’s the interpretation I’ve always heard too, Mina has her own job and is always using a typewriter, which was a super new invention at the time. Lucy is almost completely focused on getting married to the point it’s about her only character trait, but Mina is much more well-rounded, even standing up for herself when the other characters say they don’t think it’s safe or proper for her to go with them to track down Dracula.

    • @Murnauk
      @Murnauk Před 2 lety +5

      @@Nightwalker-zk6ce Exactly! I can sort of see how from a modern perspective Lucy might look somewhat sexually liberated (they mention her three suitors) but I think it's a very weak interpretation and is kinda ahistorical.

  • @laurencelikestopgun
    @laurencelikestopgun Před 2 lety +1

    I love this series already, keep it up!

  • @trinkab
    @trinkab Před 2 lety +3

    It's always interesting to compare and contrast between extra credit and OSP. Red reads the women completely differently.

  • @hrothgargo7615
    @hrothgargo7615 Před 2 lety +1

    just finished the rereading of this wonderful book and then you drop this.
    I love October!

  • @emilyangelicabridge3509

    Love that you said you would do a video on Dracula the book in the Vlad the Impaler series and then came out with this gorgeous video. Thanks! ☺️

  • @Lampost_Binbag_Official
    @Lampost_Binbag_Official Před 2 lety +4

    DID ZOE PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?!!?

  • @LateSleeper
    @LateSleeper Před 2 lety +5

    "Mina, walk to the door... Mina, you are in the closet. Open the door and come out."

  • @davidcrisp5805
    @davidcrisp5805 Před 2 lety +1

    It ran aground in Whitby, which is 100% a popular holiday destination both then and now.

  • @Seishorou-xevirts
    @Seishorou-xevirts Před 2 lety

    you are back with another banger keep it up! I've been watching this channel for 5 years!

  • @GinKadia
    @GinKadia Před 2 lety +1

    I'm really enjoying these "So you haven't read" videos.

  • @Gamesaucer
    @Gamesaucer Před 2 lety +1

    man, you're really _hammering the point home_ with those puns.

  • @sbatou87
    @sbatou87 Před 2 lety +112

    Ah, yes, Quincey P. Morris, "the walking personification of the state Texas." This is also when we learn the Stoker "has never spoken to an American in his life."
    #OverlySarcasticProductions

    • @violetwitch9948
      @violetwitch9948 Před 2 lety +2

      i think both channel tell this story perfectly

    • @hestiathena4917
      @hestiathena4917 Před 2 lety +2

      @Mark Morris ...Touché. (From a Yank who _tries_ not to be ignorant.)

    • @ValerieEnriquez
      @ValerieEnriquez Před 2 lety +2

      I once read a theory that Quincey was based on Walt Whitman, who Bram Stoker had a major nerd crush on.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin Před 2 lety +5

      I will admit, a major thing the OSP review has over this one, is that "Vampire Hit Squad", doesn't nearly as good as "Lucy's Boyfriend Squad"

    • @moondivine2288
      @moondivine2288 Před 2 lety +1

      @Mark Morris just like English has it’s different dialects so does the US. Not every American sounds like that. Just the Southern ones, mostly Texans. And not every American is ignorant. I’m trying to be well informed about others.
      I don’t sound like that but I’m from California. And thanks to my social anxiety stammering near strangers.

  • @charliefarmer4365
    @charliefarmer4365 Před 2 lety +4

    EC: "A man from from the exotic, far-away land known as Texas!"
    OSP: A walking Personification of the State of Texas which is when we also discover Mr Bram Stoker has never spoken to an American in his life."

  • @doughnuts1434
    @doughnuts1434 Před 2 lety

    Yes finally you have no idea how much I waited for this my favourite series on this channel is extra Sci Fi

  • @Gildedmuse
    @Gildedmuse Před rokem +2

    Dracula is so good, if for no other reason than Mina. Yes, I have her name and so I'm biased, but seriously, the novel is so interesting!
    Even this rereading doesn't give Mina the credit she deserves! Mina might SAY she is traditional, but she is a New Woman. The evidence is all gathered by Mina and even Helsing says he cannot imagine solving the mystery without her! It really does feel like you're not giving Mina the credit she deserves.

  • @mathiash.1379
    @mathiash.1379 Před 2 lety

    Clearly one of my favorite reads

  • @redfishtex738
    @redfishtex738 Před 2 lety +6

    I like the movie. The Texan might have died but his knife sticks in Vlad's heart then Mina uses it to cut his head off. I was 19 and dating this girl when the movie came out. Her family wanted to go see the film so we all went. So we get to the theatre and sit. I have my girlfriend on one side and her mother on the other side. Needless to say the scene with Vlad as a wolfish getting it on in the garden with Lucy came on and I turned and smiled at my GF and then out of the corner of my eye I could feel her mom looking at me. I turned and smiled and her mother smiled back. That wasn't awkward at all. Sheesh 🙄😬 Good times...

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro Před 2 lety +1

    classics never die they only rise from obscurity to become relevant once again

  • @frozeneevee
    @frozeneevee Před 2 lety +1

    It's honestly really cool how the book is still influencing books, movies, and shows to this day. After watching this I think I might give the book a shot this Halloween!

  • @dannyoh540
    @dannyoh540 Před 2 lety

    Well made and all explained... hilarious stuff!

  • @aymantawfiq7557
    @aymantawfiq7557 Před 2 lety

    Really do love your content and your narration also the background music at the end of the video. Please keep up the good work as this is my favorite youtube channel.

  • @mattresbert
    @mattresbert Před měsícem +1

    I live this this channel, it always reminds me that everything is open to interpretation ❤

  • @tootsierolls3468
    @tootsierolls3468 Před 2 lety

    8:08 Mist-Stake Lol love it

  • @TheDecatonkeil
    @TheDecatonkeil Před 2 lety

    Fantastic video. I'd like to get more videos on literature like this or your sci fi retrospectives from back in the day.

  • @ImperatorPenguin
    @ImperatorPenguin Před 2 lety +1

    Transilvania Peasant: Wait... we gave a crucifix to a cat?

  • @theguardsman1043
    @theguardsman1043 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much- extremely useful as last minute English Revision

  • @VarangianGuard13
    @VarangianGuard13 Před 2 lety +2

    I not only read Dracula when I was in Elementary School, but I acted ( the part of Count Dracula ) in Middle School and High School!
    To this day I read the story every Halloween, and love it like a part of my own life-story Master Bram Stoker should be shown more respect in our modern world!
    On an unrelated note, please keep all caraway seeds, poppy seeds, mirrors, running water and silver religious symbols at least three leagues from my home...
    All garlic, onions and musical instruments should not be allowed near me unless I am entering or leaving a graveyard.. It's an allergy, don't ask..
    🦇

  • @jackahoy7180
    @jackahoy7180 Před 2 lety +1

    At 7:33 was a total missed opportunity for the slogan to be “Eat Flesh”

  • @sadimohammad3842
    @sadimohammad3842 Před 2 lety

    Ah one of my favourite horror book.Its one of the best by the great Bram Stoker.

  • @Technodreamer
    @Technodreamer Před 2 lety +1

    Yessss this book is such a great slow burn!

  • @historyking9984
    @historyking9984 Před 2 lety +2

    This is interesting with the extra history on the real life vlad

  • @DodgeWatt
    @DodgeWatt Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing Retelling of classic literature!

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan Před 2 lety +2

      If you haven't seen Overly Sarcastic Productions retelling of the book, you really should. It's seriously good. XD

  • @AegixDrakan
    @AegixDrakan Před 2 lety +3

    I read it after seeing Overly Sarcastic Productions summary of the book (highly recommended, BTW), and hooo wow, it was a heck of a good book.
    "Yeah, a LOT of this book is about sex, in case you missed the subtext"
    Me, an Asexual: "Oh, so THAT'S what that whooshing sound over my head was!"

  • @Unwelcomedpolitics
    @Unwelcomedpolitics Před rokem

    I read this a while ago and it is honestly 11/10 stars, 100% worth reading.

  • @Elizabeththegreatest
    @Elizabeththegreatest Před 2 lety +1

    Epistolatory novels rock!

  • @Ieditthings244
    @Ieditthings244 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love how everyone’s British, and like European, then over here, there’s just like, Quincy, a cowboy.

  • @kelleysciarrino8024
    @kelleysciarrino8024 Před 2 lety +2

    Is there any chance of a Sleepy Hollow episode for Halloween? Please

  • @davidroddick91
    @davidroddick91 Před 2 lety +1

    I read this before Halloween a couple of years ago. Still haven't chosen my horror reading for this year.

  • @artemyluvsu
    @artemyluvsu Před 2 lety +1

    PLEASE DO ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF SOLITUDE !!!!

  • @jackpsudo2864
    @jackpsudo2864 Před 2 lety

    Crazy, I just finished my first read of this yesterday.

  • @syrenet
    @syrenet Před 2 lety

    First extra video watched in few years, seems we got new narrator.

  • @iainballas
    @iainballas Před 2 lety

    7:15
    That's an adventuring party you're describing.

  • @Comicsluvr
    @Comicsluvr Před 2 lety +7

    Dracula was MUCH better than another classic novel, Frankenstein. THAT book consisted of PAGES of descriptions of walking through the beautiful Alps...and the whole 'I built a monster.'

  • @carissamace
    @carissamace Před 2 lety +3

    I love it when people remember his actual appearance and don’t just go with Bella Lugosi. He looks good but just not like an undead count.

  • @Wintermute01001
    @Wintermute01001 Před rokem +1

    It would've been historically accurate for the Dracula novel to mention Coca Cola, Nintendo, Altoids, AT&T, and A1 steak sauce.

  • @SoutherbBelle
    @SoutherbBelle Před 2 lety +1

    I am listening to Dracula now via Audible. Yes, it is a great read and perfect to read during October and Halloween . 😁🎃

  • @bintimes
    @bintimes Před rokem +1

    My favorite thing about Dracula is it feels like Stoker only knows his english accent so he's just guessing Quincy and Vanhelsing's

  • @nathanielleack4842
    @nathanielleack4842 Před 2 lety

    The story of the ship dracula arrived is easily my favourite chapter. So chilling

  • @chefpyro8586
    @chefpyro8586 Před 2 lety +2

    There should be a extra history on the French revolution