"Union Busting" - Battle of Blair Mountain - US History - Part 1 - Extra History

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    Matewan, West Virginia. May 19, 1920. Police Chief Sid Hatfield sits in the town square. He's declined bribes and payoffs to help protect the coal miners of Matewan but the Baldwin Felts detective agency has its own plans. Backed by the coal industry and commercial railroad they've fabricated a deadly standoff, in the largest American uprising since the civil war.
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Komentáře • 991

  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  Před rokem +252

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    • @krieger8825
      @krieger8825 Před rokem +1

      Rice with ketchup

    • @TheHistoryBuff313
      @TheHistoryBuff313 Před rokem +10

      @@krieger8825 as an Asian if you say that in public I reckon it won't end well

    • @factsmachine9905
      @factsmachine9905 Před rokem

      Which side are you on?

    • @Crossark1
      @Crossark1 Před rokem +13

      Bold decision to sponsor this very pro-union episode with a company that has a recent track record of Union-busting.

    • @themanwhospeaks8010
      @themanwhospeaks8010 Před rokem

      @@Crossark1 Dam, HelloFresh has unions?

  • @TheSpaceCommunist
    @TheSpaceCommunist Před rokem +2930

    Fun Fact: During the battle, anti-union forces used commercial planes to drop bombs - both explosives and chemical weapons - on the miners. None of the anti-union forces went to jail.

    • @kazmark_gl8652
      @kazmark_gl8652 Před rokem

      every single aircraft bombing that has taken place on American soil was perpetrated against either minorities or workers.

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 Před rokem +342

      They did something similar in the Tulsa Massacre. Bro these American skirmishes be wilding bro lol

    • @lionorfieldgules3740
      @lionorfieldgules3740 Před rokem +49

      How is this fun?

    • @Papadragon18
      @Papadragon18 Před rokem +222

      @@lionorfieldgules3740 In the very morbid sense, where your only options are to laugh or cry.

    • @Tjthemedic
      @Tjthemedic Před rokem +193

      @@malachiphoniex8501 The bombing by the US police during the Tulsa race massacre was actually the first aerial bombing on US soil, and that at Blair Mountain the second.

  • @gphjr1444
    @gphjr1444 Před rokem +810

    Wasn’t till I worked at Walmart I realized how scared large corporations are scared of united workers. During orientation watched a 30 minute video on the company and store policy. Next was a 90 damn minute video on the “dangers” of unions. They really wanted to drive home how much they hated unions.

    • @PoggoMcDawggo
      @PoggoMcDawggo Před rokem +156

      They know workers are a force to be reckoned with when standing united. So they do everything to divide and conquer.

    • @JohnnyLodge2
      @JohnnyLodge2 Před rokem +57

      Unfortunately national unions now are more worried about keeping workers inline with HR policies than improving worker conditions and keeping more of the value of their labor

    • @carloshenriquezimmer7543
      @carloshenriquezimmer7543 Před rokem +29

      @@JohnnyLodge2 The same here in Brazil, were the unions are more interested in supporting the "Workers Party" (PT, the one involved in LITERALLY ALL the corruption schemes we know of), instead of trying to improve workers lives.
      Just because the unions' bosses (not workers' leaders, more like mob bosses, for real) never gained so much money than during PT's government. Not money for the unions' fundings, money for bosses' pockets directly.

    • @JohnnyLodge2
      @JohnnyLodge2 Před rokem +18

      @@carloshenriquezimmer7543 in america I think we arent so corrupt, yet. But nobody keeps workers in line like union leaders these days. We have ever decreasing union membership and the new ones that pop up like alphabet union would rather ensure that the boss be able to fire you for saying bad words than advance workers rights

    • @darter9000
      @darter9000 Před rokem +1

      @@JohnnyLodge2 Fake unions are everywhere now-friend of mine works at a telecom and the union there has been created by management so that they can prevent an actual union from organizing.

  • @sirrliv
    @sirrliv Před rokem +1835

    One should remember that the Battle of Blair Mountain was only one of several armed conflicts to break out around this time in the American coal mining industry. Less than a decade earlier, the very similar Ludlow Coal War had been fought in Colorado, ending in the Ludlow Massacre in which private detectives tore through the miner's camps, setting tents on fire and machine gunning fleeing miners and their families, ending in some 200 casualties.

    • @LeafseasonMagbag
      @LeafseasonMagbag Před rokem +100

      This period is called the Coal Wars for a reason.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Před rokem +57

      And this is the economy you people do your best to preserve?

    • @LeafseasonMagbag
      @LeafseasonMagbag Před rokem +128

      @@SantomPh the people with the power do their best to preserve it, while trying to convince everyone that it's in all their best interest that a few exploit the many to get "bribe everyone from the sheriff to the governor"-levels of wealthy. The people at the bottom are too busy working just to be alive. The workers can be very aware that they are being exploited, but this system perpetuates because it's very very good at disempowering it's underclass.

    • @Nikko1Brown
      @Nikko1Brown Před rokem +28

      @@SantomPh as an American I hate it

    • @ReySchultz121
      @ReySchultz121 Před rokem +1

      @@SantomPh Pretty sure men in high places no longer bribe local officers to commit massacres.

  • @ambertaylor7640
    @ambertaylor7640 Před rokem +757

    I live about an hour from Blair Mountain and this is something I never see talked about enough, but outside of unions and anarchist circles it never gets brought up because it shows Americas apathy for it’s citizenry.

    • @schemaricvg4221
      @schemaricvg4221 Před rokem +18

      It shows quite the opposite. Despite following the tail end of the Gilded Age, local officials tried their best to protect local workers as a bastion against corporate greed.

    • @Bidmartinlo
      @Bidmartinlo Před rokem

      I'm not American, but knowing Americans can't even go to the hospital without going bankrupt hurts me. It really shouldn't be like this when social democracies or basic human decency clearly works. What does Scandinavia or Germany have that the US doesn't? US citizens would want for nothing under a social democracy. The only ones who would complain would be the richest of the rich (as their companies would have to raise the minimum wage), whose opinion on government and humanity doesn't align with anyone's interests anyways.
      How extreme is it to ask for the possibility to go to the hospital or raise the minimum wage? As a Norwegian, it seems completely insane to me to not have a livable wage or be able to visit the hospital if hurt. It doesn't even mean you'll have to pay more taxes (although you will if you get richer) or give away your rights of gun ownership. What it means is that the government and companies give what they OWE to their citizens and workers. If they can afford leisure trips to space then they can easily afford to give back to Americans.

    • @LillyP-xs5qe
      @LillyP-xs5qe Před rokem +1

      If only it spread to all the USA you could had a revolution and overthrow the capitalist system and formed a better world

    • @knightlypoleaxe2501
      @knightlypoleaxe2501 Před rokem +81

      @@schemaricvg4221 Yeah... no.

    • @coolguyjki
      @coolguyjki Před rokem

      @@schemaricvg4221 At most a handful of local officials out of hundreds, if not thousands, of government officials at the local, state, and federal level who'd willingly taken blood money to look the other way. That's not the government stepping in, that's the *community* stepping in to protect itself from the machinations of Capitalism.

  • @Welshman2008
    @Welshman2008 Před rokem +320

    A Miner stood at the golden gate,
    His head was bent and low.
    He meekly asked the man of fate,
    The way that he should go.
    'What have you done' St. Peter said
    'To gain admission here?'
    'I merely mined for coal' he said,
    'for many and many a year.'
    St. Peter opened up the gate,
    And softly tolled the bell.
    'Come and choose your harp' he said
    'You've had your share of hell.'
    Rhys Prince.

    • @XwX1001
      @XwX1001 Před rokem +29

      Okay, I know this isn't what I'm SUPPOSED to hear, but I read that to the tune of "Which Side Are You On" and it fit surprisingly well.

    • @comettamer
      @comettamer Před 4 měsíci +4

      I'm gonna have to repost this as much as possible

    • @libbylee9722
      @libbylee9722 Před 4 měsíci +5

      That made me tear up

    • @rileylittleraven
      @rileylittleraven Před měsícem

      This is one of the best poems I've read, period. Thank you for posting it - and its writer - here!

  • @PoggoMcDawggo
    @PoggoMcDawggo Před rokem +1374

    Well this hits close to home considering the potential railroad strike going on right now.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  Před rokem +392

    • @crocowithaglocko5876
      @crocowithaglocko5876 Před rokem +86

      If the railroaders go on strike because of working conditions, the supply chain is screwed

    • @Mr.Fridaynight
      @Mr.Fridaynight Před rokem +18

      Yes 👍👍

    • @allohobo
      @allohobo Před rokem +274

      @@crocowithaglocko5876 Well, damn they must be really important, and the rail companies should recognize their value as workers then.

    • @genericuser1454
      @genericuser1454 Před rokem +14

      @@extrahistory It was Walpole!

  • @camelloy
    @camelloy Před rokem +1163

    One of the most important and least talked about parts of modern American history, props for doing this one

    • @scottanos9981
      @scottanos9981 Před rokem +24

      We will see more of it these coming years.

    • @Coldwatercavs01
      @Coldwatercavs01 Před rokem +67

      Sadly, it’s not a coincidence. Quite a few people would rather have knowledge of the US labor movement be largely unknown to the public. Wouldn’t want them to learn unions bled for American rights.

    • @DoggyHateFire
      @DoggyHateFire Před rokem +35

      Yeah, the history of labor in the US is incredibly violent and has had an enormous impact on everyone's life yet it is covered very little. I wonder why 🤔

    • @Fulcata
      @Fulcata Před rokem +6

      And don't ever forget big money liked it better that way

    • @chicagotypewriter2094
      @chicagotypewriter2094 Před rokem

      500th like, I read up on this in India but getting a series on it? Yes Please!

  • @ToxyTheGachaAnimatronic
    @ToxyTheGachaAnimatronic Před rokem +922

    It’s nice to see that other states and people are learning about West Virginia more and more honestly who could have forgotten Blair’s Mountain honestly nothing makes a West Virginian more happy then other people talk about West Virginia

    • @msatropine4596
      @msatropine4596 Před rokem +6

      Growing up in a pa coal town i feel the same way. Do you guys learn about the molly maguires down there? cause i've heard of this before although we didn't cover it in much detail.

    • @gygciutakinggaming-tothene1398
      @gygciutakinggaming-tothene1398 Před rokem +8

      Mountain mamaaaaaa

    • @Trainmanproductions
      @Trainmanproductions Před rokem +2

      I can't agree more I'm glad to see them talking about this historic event and I'm excited to see this how they handle the rest of this series

    • @lukesmith9455
      @lukesmith9455 Před rokem +14

      I'm not from WV, but my family is. One thing that always surprises me is how many people there are anti-union despite their history. It's like they've forgotten their history, which I'm sure is the case for many. Most victories of the labor movement have been suppressed so much that labor day is just a day off for most people and nothing more.

    • @frostedhams
      @frostedhams Před rokem +1

      i bet this guys from Georgia

  • @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts
    @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts Před rokem +203

    I think that, as we see a wave of unionization and strikes slowly but surely grow over the US, this story is extremely important to hear. The momentum is on the side of labor right now, and we need to show the kind of grit and readiness to fight that these brave workers did.

    • @mateocabral1660
      @mateocabral1660 Před rokem +7

      Definitely

    • @thecpmr6276
      @thecpmr6276 Před rokem +4

      Unfortunately, businesses have been outsourcing to places like China and India where unionizing is way harder. Let's band together and boycott non-union supporting business like Amazon!

    • @richardprice5978
      @richardprice5978 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@thecpmr6276 the USA 🇺🇸 should do better/more with it's sovereignty/boarder's and protect and enforcing and punish/block business that wants the USA 🇺🇸 full backing and full us-market-sales, for USA/local worker's as most or at least my overall experience is noticing that corporation's/1%er's don't play well or on the same pitch and isn't fair for foreign-subitys/non-union to competition directly as it under mind's ( not a tree-hugging but there's a legitimate reason for the clean air&water act's pre-1970~, people were being hospitalised/dead ) EPA/LAW/consumers/working-class and most importantly the federal government power, as economic activity and sustainable-boarder's are needed to have real-power/sovereignty

  • @birdface5145
    @birdface5145 Před 8 měsíci +18

    "Do you have a warrant for these evictions?"
    *My smoothbore flintlock:*

    • @PaulRudd1941
      @PaulRudd1941 Před 12 dny

      Dude, this happened in the 1920's. They had machine guns in this battle. 😂

  • @AtlasNovack
    @AtlasNovack Před rokem +122

    Ready for some based workers rights ✊

  • @Wsnewname
    @Wsnewname Před rokem +284

    Excited for the rest of this series. Labor history is an area that most people don't learn all that much about in this country.

    • @mylesbarrett2031
      @mylesbarrett2031 Před rokem +34

      It's something that isn't taught Intentionally.

    • @craigkdillon
      @craigkdillon Před rokem +25

      Labor history is suppressed.

    • @nordinreecendo512
      @nordinreecendo512 Před rokem +4

      Really? The average Joe isn't taught about how effective it is for him and his fellow laborers to band together to fight power with numbers? Who could have imagined such a scenario?!

    • @richardprice5978
      @richardprice5978 Před 9 měsíci

      @@mylesbarrett2031 thanks to the 6+ ( and more than one employer's 🇺🇸 have tried that one me 😐 😡 ) mouth's-strait of going to work ( 19+yo yes i shamefully payed to go to work at place's i would've volunteered for aka not my hobbies in anyform, besides which i at the time and nowadays can't really afford to do that stuff/stupidly as USA 🇺🇸 and uk 🇬🇧 are capitalism society's ect, in someways it would be nice to live in a startrek-world that i could be my hobbies/orish-self but productive members of commonwealth ) and not getting anything aka pay ( for a larger corporation doing hard labour like line-work/manufacturing/palletising-ect ) and my history teachers/techsbooks ( glossed mostly over it, but some did what to warn us about historical-mistakes and to avoid being forced into the same, but government/more-powerful forced them to mostly glossary over-it ) and former coworkers-simi-union-but-unhappy-with-it and the internet i could see the/into past and to original intentions/goals, helping me change my mind
      one of the boomer's/anti-labour's and former-coworker-simi was corruption and the lack of trust/trying for average payer into the system and taxpayers paying and or not getting the full version/community's-benefit and in some notating-talk's/table's benefitted the union's president and CEO not worker's which isn't how workers reinvestment works correctly aka bad-union+bad corporation/1%er, plus the factory's-management pr.department being hard core anti collective bargaining rights ( in any format so being single and voicing for safety concerns could get you fired or write-up not just classic-picking-union-activity's, but saying anything about that even in a historical event context really fired them up, like the shirtwaist fire 1890~1940~ let alone modern-activity ) and union-steward's, that videos are a self selling experience/point to me that there's something on the other side of the table than self-hate/ voters against their natural interests or better working rights and fair-pay/living-conditions/lifestyle's
      one plant i was in wouldn't be bothered to fix ( tried to hide it from local government officials and osha ect ) a piece of equipment known for smacking/crushing worker's and a clear volition of osha-law's, yes i got hit in my hip's/stummic more than once and i told the superintendent/supervisors/maintenance to please fix it before a baby+mother got hurt on the packing/manufacturing-line and the baby is born with birth-defects/die's-still-born, or does more damage/disable's to me

    • @The_king567
      @The_king567 Před měsícem

      Stop lying

  • @masonstauffer5974
    @masonstauffer5974 Před rokem +15

    "You load 16 tons and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt."

  • @DavidJamesHenry
    @DavidJamesHenry Před rokem +173

    I just hope the last episode of this series ends with a hearty "Solidarity when? Solidarity forever!"

    • @ethanmcfarland8240
      @ethanmcfarland8240 Před rokem +23

      The Union forever. Down with the traitors, up with the stars

    • @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts
      @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts Před rokem

      @@ethanmcfarland8240 BLEED FOR REED!

    • @KravenTheKnight
      @KravenTheKnight Před rokem +12

      Which side are you on, boys? Which side are you on!?

    • @Chriscraft-ug3sz
      @Chriscraft-ug3sz Před rokem +1

      @@ethanmcfarland8240 there’s actually a union song version of that one. It’s called Solidarity Forever

    • @DavidJamesHenry
      @DavidJamesHenry Před rokem +3

      @@Chriscraft-ug3sz different song actually. Ethan is referencing the Battle Cry of Freedom while Solidarity Forever is the labor version of The Battle Hymn of the Republic

  • @ChaosDX1
    @ChaosDX1 Před rokem +151

    This explains a lot of the lore I've seen in Fallout 76, a large chunk of which takes place around Blair Mountain. One song played on the in-game radio in particular comes to mind, Sixteen Tons, which contains the following lyrics:
    You load 16 tons, what do you get?
    Another day older and deeper in debt
    St. Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't go
    I owe my soul to the company store

    • @PoggoMcDawggo
      @PoggoMcDawggo Před rokem +31

      Yea fallout has a lot of anti capitalist messaging. They never shy away from crapping on corporations or tacitly supporting workers rights.

    • @cjschneidt9089
      @cjschneidt9089 Před rokem +14

      16 tons is my favorite coal miner song (and honestly labor song period)

    • @bragslvbm3870
      @bragslvbm3870 Před rokem +12

      Listen to which side are you on if you are looking for another similar song

    • @Xerxes2005
      @Xerxes2005 Před rokem +6

      The great bass singer Tennessee Ernie Ford. I wondered if someone would think about that song.

    • @leakingamps2050
      @leakingamps2050 Před rokem +10

      If you liked that, then you might like Process Man; it's about chemical workers, but much the same.

  • @Shadowreaper5
    @Shadowreaper5 Před rokem +208

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! Thank you for covering company towns! Ever since Hardspace Shipbreaker came out I've wanted extra credits to cover this horrible topic. Growing up in Pennsylvania where the coal mining and steel industry were huge we were taught all about this topic, bur sadly most of the rest of the US, much less the world, know not just the hopelessness of the people, but the horrors and how very very recent this all is.

    • @altejoh
      @altejoh Před rokem +5

      Sounds very similar to the situation in cities like Sudbury, where a lot of northern mining towns were basically in constant debt to the mining companies to supply the cities' wellbeing >.< To the point where city mayors basically had to go beg to the companies for handouts every year because the city itself could not afford to upkeep roads, etc.

    • @alexandergangaware429
      @alexandergangaware429 Před rokem +4

      PA has a great labor element to its history curriculum, at lest back when I was in school. Hell, we learned about the Knights of Labor, even! The Molly Maguires, too, though maybe that's b/c I'm from east PA

    • @Shadowreaper5
      @Shadowreaper5 Před rokem

      @extra-credits if you want to recommend supplementary material on this, October Sky features a coal mining town prominently

    • @sebastiannawara5943
      @sebastiannawara5943 Před rokem +1

      yeah, i think Hardspace: Shipbreaker would make for a great Extra Credits episode.

    • @def3ndr887
      @def3ndr887 Před rokem +2

      They say in Harlan county there are no neutrals there, you’d either be a union man or a thug of J.H. Blair

  • @gabe20244
    @gabe20244 Před rokem +59

    I've been waiting for this one. One of the most important events in US history and a strong reminder that working rights were fought at the cost of blood. Continue the fight. Continue the struggle.

  • @josedavidgarcesceballos7
    @josedavidgarcesceballos7 Před rokem +89

    Keep this story alive, please. According to Charles B. Keeney, the battlefields are in risk of dissapearing, due to mining companies, the west virginian and federal politicians. Cheers.

  • @Chris.Cook.
    @Chris.Cook. Před rokem +14

    Southern WV native here. Coming from a family where every single male member of our extended family (myself and my youngest brother excluded) work in or for the mines, I can't state how excited I am to see this story finally start getting some more recognition. Growing up in a coal camp, learning about Blair Mountain and worker's rights started as soon as we could understand. I can still remember being a teensy little tyke at my gramma's for one of our big family Christmases, and my uncle sitting in a rocking chair and tell us youngins' the story.
    Also, while other areas may pronounce it like you did in this episode, most of West Virginia says "Apple-at-cha." An easy way to remember is: If you say "Apple-lay-sha", I'll throw an "apple-at-cha!" 😉

  • @dxdSUPERSTAR
    @dxdSUPERSTAR Před rokem +36

    As a native West Virginian, I am super surprised and happy that you guys are going into this subject. I look forward to the next episode!!

  • @Cheshire1501
    @Cheshire1501 Před rokem +38

    4:13 this also happened in Chile with the saltpeter mines in the late 19 and early 20 centuries. Down right to the mining company owned grocery store. Most infamously, the Chilean army massacred at least 195 people (some accounts put the number at 300, but accuracy is hard to come by due to government cover ups at the time) during protests in 1907

    • @playc.holder6432
      @playc.holder6432 Před rokem +3

      Gruesome; but sadly to say that's just par for the course.

    • @darkhope97
      @darkhope97 Před rokem +4

      Really hope they can some day cover the matanza en la escuela de Santa María
      And yeah the whole episode really reminded me of it even that detail about the workers putting class over ethnicity like when here in chile there were striking miners from peru and bolivia and when the embassadors came and told their country man that the chilean army was going to clear the school with gunpowder the Bolivian and Peruvian miners said (according to various sources) with the chileans we work with the Chileans we stand and with the chilean we'ld die

  • @NothingtoseeHere.Movealong

    While I am elated about the topic, I have to say it's a bit ironic, considering that HelloFresh is facing another court battle about unionization

    • @stevenn1940
      @stevenn1940 Před rokem

      While we're on the subject, starbucks and amazon have been employing the pinkertons (which still fucking exist btw) to try and bust unions

  • @saevusbrutum2796
    @saevusbrutum2796 Před rokem +14

    This just shows how nothing has changed. Hopefully one day we can all come together and fight against these things.

  • @briangarrow448
    @briangarrow448 Před rokem +43

    My parents and grandparents were labor union activists. I spent 40 years working in construction, mining and water treatment as a labor union activist. My daughter graduated from university and is now the elected leader of the largest labor union coalition in Washington state. Advocacy for the poor and working classes runs in my family. I grew up on stories about strikes and the hatred of the wealthy towards workers.
    An injury to one is an injury to all!

  • @TwitchyMovies
    @TwitchyMovies Před rokem +110

    This is eerily well-timed with the impending strike of all the railroads lol Extra Credits more like Extra...PREMONITION!
    ...nailed it

    • @PoggoMcDawggo
      @PoggoMcDawggo Před rokem +17

      Zoe's a psychic I always knew it! No wonder she has level 100 lockpicking!

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  Před rokem +29

      Totally planned.....

    • @Harakatheboye
      @Harakatheboye Před rokem +1

      @@extrahistory most definitely.

  • @felixbabuf5726
    @felixbabuf5726 Před rokem +40

    Hell yeah, we're finally getting some American labor history!

  • @raffyandaindrajaya5171
    @raffyandaindrajaya5171 Před rokem +24

    They say in Harlan County
    There are no neutrals there.
    You'll either be a union man
    Or a thug for J. H. Blair.
    Which side are you on boys?
    Which side are you on?
    Which side are you on boys?
    Which side are you on?

    • @Canhistoryismylife
      @Canhistoryismylife Před rokem +8

      Oh workers can you stand it ?
      Oh tell me if you can?
      Will you be a lousy scab
      Or will you be a man?

    • @I_forgot3
      @I_forgot3 Před měsícem

      @@CanhistoryismylifeWhich side are you on?
      Which side are you on?

  • @Karina-xg3sw
    @Karina-xg3sw Před rokem +18

    So glad you're covering the Battle of Blair Mountain! I remember reading coal miner's poetry about it for American Lit and thinking, "how have I never heard about this before?"

    • @EvelynNdenial
      @EvelynNdenial Před rokem +7

      have you ever heard of may day? or the ludlow massacre? it's because labor history is intentionally suppressed. hell "labor day" was made just to replace may day and make people forget about the haymarket affair it had come to commemorate.

    • @05Matz
      @05Matz Před rokem +2

      @@EvelynNdenial Indeed, I hope the next series is on the Haymarket Affair.

  • @TheHistoryBuff313
    @TheHistoryBuff313 Před rokem +79

    Damn Extra Credits back with another banger. Hope we get more information about the Battle of Blair Mountain. Definitely an underrated aspect of American History

  • @PostalHeathen
    @PostalHeathen Před rokem +11

    As a West Virginian (living in Ohio now, but still a mountaineer at heart) and a union man, I love that you chose to cover this topic.

    • @PostalHeathen
      @PostalHeathen Před rokem

      @⁺⓵⓸⓪⓸⓽⓼⓻⓪⓵⓺⓵ extra credlts Nice try, scammer.

  • @TheSamsara1911
    @TheSamsara1911 Před rokem +18

    Martyr Made just put out a 5hr special on the battle for Blair Mountain and the American labor wars if anyone wants more depth. Absolutely fantastic series he's done so far.

  • @elismith4294
    @elismith4294 Před rokem +54

    As an Appalachian who lives in a coal mining area, the battle of Blair Mountain is a part of my heritage that not too many people know, so thanks for bringing light to it. And for the love of all that’s holy, it’s pronounced “APPLE-AT-CHA”.

    • @SleventyFive
      @SleventyFive Před rokem +7

      Depends on which part of Appalachia you're from

    • @skypausebgp2615
      @skypausebgp2615 Před rokem

      Thank you (Eli)!! I was just saying the same thing!!! (Still excited to see the rest of the series though.)

    • @Chris.Cook.
      @Chris.Cook. Před rokem +3

      WV native here, I always tell folks the best way to remember it is "If you say apple-lay-sha, I'll throw an apple-at-cha." 🤣

    • @brendansherlock3639
      @brendansherlock3639 Před rokem +1

      The pronunciation really depends on your community. I grew up in northern WV and both pronunciations were common.

    • @randomyankee8923
      @randomyankee8923 Před 11 měsíci

      I spell it APPLE-AYE-CHA

  • @WitchyHermit550
    @WitchyHermit550 Před rokem +22

    I hope they talk about bloody Harlan next because I think both need to be talked about more often.

    • @barretthoward423
      @barretthoward423 Před rokem +3

      They really really should

    • @TheTrueAdept
      @TheTrueAdept Před rokem +1

      ... shall we start the song? ;)

    • @voland6846
      @voland6846 Před rokem +4

      @@TheTrueAdept "They say in Harlan County, there are no neutrals there"

    • @TheTrueAdept
      @TheTrueAdept Před rokem +4

      @@voland6846 "You'll either be a union man or a thug for JH Blair!"

    • @voland6846
      @voland6846 Před rokem

      @@TheTrueAdept I assumed "the song" was _Which Side Are You On?_ But it could also have been _You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive_

  • @jfridy
    @jfridy Před rokem +4

    Grandpa remembered hearing about this first hand when he was a kid in the 1920s. His family were miners, and he dropped out of high school when his father died in a mining accident, becoming the breadwinner of the family.

  • @peggyliepmann5248
    @peggyliepmann5248 Před rokem +4

    Mercedes Lackey's book "Jolene" is set in a company town in Tennessee, and there is No sugarcoating just how bad it was, even if the protagonist never goes in the mine herself. Coal dust choking everything, from plants to people, is a constant running element throughout.

  • @GenericJake
    @GenericJake Před rokem +18

    As someone from West Virginia it’s sad To say that not too much has changed the rest of the country doesn’t really care about Little all West Virginia and honestly the people there are taken advantage of by medicine corporations now over prescribing painkillers for blue-collar workers

  • @commandercorl1544
    @commandercorl1544 Před 11 měsíci +4

    "hey can we get payed"
    "NO!!!"
    💣💥🔥☠

  • @costanvaarwel8932
    @costanvaarwel8932 Před rokem +8

    I never thought you would talk about Blair Mountain, and yet here we are. It is nice to know more about it and it being presented.

  • @courierofohio
    @courierofohio Před rokem +17

    Was waiting to see EC produce a episode on this. It's one of those stories that still has people feeling strongly about it.

  • @wanamingo2225
    @wanamingo2225 Před rokem +12

    I’m so hyped that you guys are doing more labor history videos!!! You guys should talk about hay market square and the history of the IWW.

    • @mylesbarrett2031
      @mylesbarrett2031 Před rokem +2

      Seconded. I'd LOVE to hear the history of the Wobblies.

  • @jy3n2
    @jy3n2 Před rokem +8

    "He was more than a hero. He was a union man."

  • @jokersmith9096
    @jokersmith9096 Před rokem +8

    This should be required teaching in every American secondary school. Thank you for the very informative lesson!

    • @blahblahghost
      @blahblahghost Před rokem

      It, as well as most other labor history, is intentionally not taught in school.

    • @wanderingthewastes6159
      @wanderingthewastes6159 Před rokem

      Before or after “Basic Economics”?

    • @SpoopySquid
      @SpoopySquid Před rokem

      @@wanderingthewastes6159 what

    • @wanderingthewastes6159
      @wanderingthewastes6159 Před rokem

      @@SpoopySquid “Basic Economics: A Citizen’s Guide to the Economy” by Doctor Thomas Sowell.

  • @cursedsoap
    @cursedsoap Před rokem +19

    I absolutely love the new style in the backgrounds of the videos and thumbnails it really brings together the world of the story you are telling!

  • @holstorrsceadus1990
    @holstorrsceadus1990 Před rokem +13

    "This educational video kills fascists" - Woody Guthrie probably

  • @generalsmite7167
    @generalsmite7167 Před rokem +5

    Was a West Virginian and one of the biggest fans of history in the state I am very happy to see you guys covering one of the few major events in its history

  • @bobcatfish2796
    @bobcatfish2796 Před rokem +4

    I am a Logan county native and even though the art style of this video and it’s narration is somewhat light hearted, you sir have brought me to tears. Thank you for telling this story. I am very eager to see the next episode.

  • @Gungelion
    @Gungelion Před rokem +8

    "You load sixteen tons, what do you get?
    Another day older and deeper in debt
    Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
    I owe my soul to the company store"
    Kind of puts this song into perspective, doesn't it?

  • @jdfigs5916
    @jdfigs5916 Před rokem +5

    This is the kind of stuff they need to teach in schools

  • @Nomadith
    @Nomadith Před rokem +6

    Come all of you good workers, good news to you I'll tell,
    Extra credits released another amazing series

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 Před rokem +5

    This should be talked about more in American histories.

  • @HamSaladtv
    @HamSaladtv Před rokem +2

    Union member here. Solidarity my fellow workers!!

  • @greens5652
    @greens5652 Před rokem +10

    I swear the art is getting better every episode! Take my like

    • @purpleghost106
      @purpleghost106 Před rokem

      Well they usually have guest artists-- so it'll depend on the artist at the time. Per the name of the show you can check the credits. This time the art was done by Ali R Thome :)

  • @daviddobarganes9115
    @daviddobarganes9115 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Too bad half our country is like "please bulldoze my trailer and build a highway, I love it"

  • @colechapman6976
    @colechapman6976 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Reminds me of when the Philadelphian police force dropped a bomb on the MOVE movement during a standoff

  • @friboy2791
    @friboy2791 Před rokem +4

    This is making me want to see a series on the Hatfield Mccoy feud.

  • @morse4989
    @morse4989 Před rokem +4

    time to start listening to “which side are you on”

  • @kellenmark1366
    @kellenmark1366 Před rokem +9

    Unfortunately and Ironically Hello Fresh, the sponsor for this video, as been accused of Union busting in California

    • @Demicleas
      @Demicleas Před rokem +1

      That's just how the mafia works.

  • @kaylabuchtel2668
    @kaylabuchtel2668 Před rokem +7

    I've actually never heard about this. Thank you for teaching me something entirely new today.

    • @mylesbarrett2031
      @mylesbarrett2031 Před rokem +3

      There's a lot more. Look up the Haymarket Affair next.

  • @malachiphoniex8501
    @malachiphoniex8501 Před rokem +3

    Ah yes, the Interwar Peroid once again blesses us with another forgotten event. Why this period is forgotten no one will ever know.

  • @a-10warthog40
    @a-10warthog40 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Nerve forget how far the government will go to ensure profits

  • @dolphin8397
    @dolphin8397 Před rokem +2

    I like how the rich dude is covered in coal as if he’s mining himself or bathing in it😂

  • @khalehlalitschel3394
    @khalehlalitschel3394 Před rokem +2

    So glad you guys are covering coal mining history. It is so underappreciated, which is frustrating as it played such a huge role in the development and growth of the US and Canada. As a coal historian from Alberta Canada, I am thrilled to see this topic finally getting some air time, especially following COVID and the impacts supply and demand have had on all our industries. Keep up the good work and I cannot wait for the next installment! 👍😀

  • @rodramas2295
    @rodramas2295 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The situation of the mines is incredibly similar to the situation of the haciendas in Mexico during the Porfiriato with the tiendas de raya.

  • @notenoughmemes1847
    @notenoughmemes1847 Před 10 měsíci +3

    we have nothing to lose but our chains. No war but class war.

  • @davididiart5934
    @davididiart5934 Před rokem +7

    We agitating for unions here? Let's see some AGITATING!

  • @mauktheogre4477
    @mauktheogre4477 Před rokem +1

    Thank you so much for making this a series, growing up hearing stories from the older folks in Logan County about this battle and what the miners went through always made me upset that it wasn't talked about in wider history. Thank you so much for changing that.

  • @bigdkenergypodcast
    @bigdkenergypodcast Před rokem +6

    I’ve been following you guys since 2017, and I just want to say, you’re one of my favorite History channels on CZcams!

  • @brotherpanda3626
    @brotherpanda3626 Před rokem +4

    I just got finished listening to “Which Side Are You On?” By Pete Seeger

  • @johnfeeney1173
    @johnfeeney1173 Před rokem +4

    If you're interested in learning more about coal mine labor unions and union busting, check out the Long Strike of 1875. From the violence of the times, the legend of the Molly Maguires in the NE PA coal region was born.

  • @Welshman2008
    @Welshman2008 Před rokem +1

    Always happy to see a new @ExtraCredits history video. My Grandfather was a coal miner in South Wales. He would often talk about the camaraderie of the men underground as they all shared the same risks. Like soldiers in war. He survived two mine explosions which haunted him for the rest of his life.

  • @thenamelessone8143
    @thenamelessone8143 Před rokem +1

    I actually have ancestry with people who fought during the coal wars, and im very happy that their stories are coming to the ears of thousands and maybe millions. Long live the American worker!

  • @zachjordan7608
    @zachjordan7608 Před rokem +3

    Just from the subject matter I can tell this is gonna be an all timer. glad more people are learning about this

  • @mohamedalshehri5535
    @mohamedalshehri5535 Před rokem +3

    A new extra credits series! Also it was Walpole all along

  • @whiter0473
    @whiter0473 Před rokem +2

    So excited to see my home area featured, I sold my soul to the company store.

  • @nicknack6486
    @nicknack6486 Před rokem +2

    It’s truly amazing to me to see EC doing a video on the Battle of Blair Mountain or anything on West Virginia in general.

  • @mosesmm5473
    @mosesmm5473 Před rokem +25

    I'm really interested in this topic have first heard about it in one of Alternative History Hub's videos where he discussed the lore of the World of Kaiserreich, and how this event played a role in the 2nd American Civil war breaking out.
    From this first episode, I can totally see how that happened considering both how much power these companies had, how much they were willing to express that as I can't wrap my head around them getting away with such blatant intimidation tactics without the state or federal government stepping in.

    • @EvelynNdenial
      @EvelynNdenial Před rokem +10

      it's because state and federal government worked for the companies, it was the national guard that ended up carrying out a lot of killings and army planes that dropped army bombs and army poison gas on the camps.

    • @Cibershadow2
      @Cibershadow2 Před 7 měsíci

      Who sits with the president, with the Heads of Defense and National Security? With the financial administrators?
      It's not the miners, but those who enslaved them. And it's them that the government listens to.

  • @drewmyself893
    @drewmyself893 Před rokem +6

    The term "red neck' actually comes from the red bandanas union workers would wear around their neck to silently show solidarity with each other from this era.

  • @supersam5802
    @supersam5802 Před rokem +2

    Appalachia is a tragedy we arent really taught about, good to see a series about the area

  • @scrollcaps
    @scrollcaps Před rokem +1

    Illustrator drawing Sid Hatfield: So, how deep do you want those cheekbone lines?
    Photo of Sid Hatfield: Yes.

  • @Basedlocation
    @Basedlocation Před rokem +6

    🚩🛠️🚩🛠️🚩🛠️
    NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS ⛓️

  • @GallowglassVT
    @GallowglassVT Před rokem +4

    Someone fetch me my banjo. I have an overwhelming urge to ask people which side they're on.

  • @mr.narwhal547
    @mr.narwhal547 Před rokem +1

    Read my mind, I was just thinking out how y’all should do an episode on this

  • @yvans.73
    @yvans.73 Před rokem +1

    I'm so glad you're covering this! Union/labor history is super interesting and increasingly more relevant now.

  • @dossiebigham9113
    @dossiebigham9113 Před rokem +8

    We need to repeat Blaire Mountain but with Tesla Amazon and every other company. Only way a working class person will have anything is it they work for it and if they take what they are justly rightly owed that they have been denied.

  • @thiagooshiro4857
    @thiagooshiro4857 Před rokem +5

    What a grim story. It reminds me of what happens here in Brazil in Sugar plantations, and yes, it still happens. The same strategies to make workers basically slaves (make them "rent" equipment, and retaining their documents and what not...)
    Corporate greed never changes.

  • @alexs6746
    @alexs6746 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Time for a modern throwback

  • @kjj26k
    @kjj26k Před rokem

    Ooh, glad to see you do this event. It has always fascinated me. It was kinda my gateway into a whole new understanding of American History.

  • @chadcollins6348
    @chadcollins6348 Před rokem +5

    Didn't hellofresh do some union busting a few months ago

  • @bowietwombly5951
    @bowietwombly5951 Před rokem +33

    Isn't it pronounced "MAT-uh-wan" like Padawan? I've heard southerners talk about this before, but I've never heard it said that way. 🤔
    But also THANK YOU for getting word about this incredibly crucial part of American history out there. Solidarity forever!

    • @sirrliv
      @sirrliv Před rokem +3

      I was wondering that myself, but I've heard it pronounced both ways, even by folks from the area.

    • @candymadigan9308
      @candymadigan9308 Před rokem

      It's Mate wan. Give it a nice twang and you've got it right.

    • @candymadigan9308
      @candymadigan9308 Před rokem

      Dang it! I was trying to change that Wan to won (like the Japanese money) and it posted.

  • @DmAlchemist
    @DmAlchemist Před rokem +1

    From Mingo County here (Varney WV) , so happy to see this largely forgotten history getting talked about

  • @Jaykey_Soldier6036
    @Jaykey_Soldier6036 Před rokem +1

    I'm so glad extra credits is covering this, I am fascinated by it

  • @EvelynNdenial
    @EvelynNdenial Před rokem +3

    "you'd think someone in government would protect the workers" HAHAHAHA your jokes are normally pretty tame, but that was a good one.

  • @w.arthurbuchananii6051
    @w.arthurbuchananii6051 Před rokem +3

    I'm glad you didn't forget the part where the companies started machine gunning the miners. And minors.

  • @novemberdawn8145
    @novemberdawn8145 Před rokem +2

    DUDE THIS IS SO COOL I live super close to where this happened, so many people don't know about it, thanks so much for doing an episode on this!

  • @wolfnerd4984
    @wolfnerd4984 Před rokem +2

    I love how the battle of Blair mountain is getting more attention recently.
    Stuff You missed In History Class reran their episode on the battle not long ago. If you want more info and context, you can check that out

  • @KaiserAfini
    @KaiserAfini Před rokem +3

    These practices of worker exploitation via company scrip is what inspired the design of Fink's horrid business practices in Bioshock Infinite.

  • @day2148
    @day2148 Před rokem +3

    This sounds remarkably like Amazon...

  • @eugenebebs7767
    @eugenebebs7767 Před rokem +1

    Nice! Glad you guys covered it.

  • @GhengisJohn
    @GhengisJohn Před rokem +1

    6:23 The scariest thing imaginable to the overlords.