Eurovision 2024: Rules changes and other wishes for Malmö
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- Bigger juries, no pre-recorded vocals, a country winning for the first time - these are some of our readers' wishes and preferred rule changes for Eurovision 2024 in Malmö. We discuss these dreams and more.
01:03 More bobs
02:56 Rest of the World vote breakdown
04:44 Sara Jo or Jelena Karleusa to sing for Serbia
07:20 Let the juries save a semi-final wildcard
09:04 Get rid of pre-recorded vocals
11:34 Bring back the RANDOM order draw
14:17 A spectacular return from Luxembourg
14:52 Another awesome result for Finland
17:19 A first-time winner
20:00 Albania winning
21:30 EBU to end TikTok corporate partnership
22:03 Expand six-person rule to eight-person rule
23:23 Sweden sending a song in Swedish
24:45 Return of Erika Vikman Dotter and Elvana Gjata
25:50 Semi-Finals on Monday and Wednesday
26:37 Non-winning countries stepping up their games
29:17 A less rigged contest with more transparency and fairness
30:30 An expanded jury
31:35 Make the Eurovision grand final bigger...and shorter intervals
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We need pre recorded backing vocals gone. Pandemic is not an excuse anymore.
It sounds way more professionnal with pre recorded backing vocals, and they're most of the time used with effects that cannot be reproduced live.
That would penalize most of the songs that are not classic ballads
No its opened the contest up to such a wider variety of song. Imagine kaarija without pre recorded, idc if he can't sing, he entertained
for songs with simple backing vocals yeah maybe, but it would limit a lot of genres, especially with only a maximum of 6 people being allowed on stage it simply wouldn't work well anymore
What about pre-recorded instruments? Should we ban it, too? I mean it's a bit strange to see band members on the stage with muted instruments.
agree!!
My wish is for Australia to stay in the competition.
I feel like split. I love all australian entries but I just think Eurovision should stay european… if more non european countries came it would be harder for european countries to win (and its already hard when you have a 1/42 chance if winning (if 42 countries take part)
Instead make a “oceanian/Asian song contest” instead with australia maybe hosting the first edition? Would be awesome
@@alexanderibsen6299 so you want Russia IN? NO WAY
I'm wishing for more diverse and more professional juries who can judge different kinds of genres.
REASONABLE WISH!
For next year i just want a not so cliché country to win like Poland, San Marino, Romania etc.
It’s about the song, it’s not about a country being à cliché or not.
We NEED more transparency from the EBU. We have no idea what the votes in every country looked like (outside of their top 10s, in the semis) for no reason!
It’s an interesting point. I would love to see the full breakdown. 😊
Every info is on the website... We actually know the top 26 of each countries' televote...
@@aubin2208 We don't know where each country placed other countries in the semi below their 10th. For example we have no idea how close Romania or San Marino got to getting some points
@@Wiwibloggs And they released it!
as a pole my wish is for my country to get up and start sending good songs! we are 40 MILLION country with a really diverse music market from ethnic slavic sounds to edm bops and songs we are sending on eurovision in recent years are….bland…there is a lot of talented people here in poland and we need to finally win! my resolution is making a strong national selection without corrupted juries
You guys would have gained my vote if Jann was sent I'm just saying. You deserve to have a good artist of your people's choice representing you
Nobody’s wishing fans be more supportive of all acts and less whiny about everything 😂
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I have said this before in a video BUT I just want the jury to see the same show as we do and vote on that one! Would make the results seem fairer. There are always shockers when the jury vote a song badly but for all we know they could have actually sounded terrible in the jury final.
This is a very interesting point! It would definitely clear up some confusion people have !!!
I get that, and it makes a lot of sense. But you'd have to stall for potentially 4 or 5 hours during the show.
@@CompaSystem Why exactly the 4-5 hrs of stall? If millions of televotes can be counted in half an hour or so, what's preventing the same computers from counting the votes of 185 jurors? Even the logic that cross-checks for any suspicious pointing constellations can be executed really quickly. Computers are awesome!
@@Eva-mp7xg Because the jurors would need time to actually vote?
@@CompaSystem I'm not sure why would they need more than televoters. They are professionals, and with a proper app it should be easier than ringing phones 20 times (this is what televoters do)
Edit: they also could start to emtering their points during the show, as they are not affected by running order bias, because they are professionals.
I´m wishing for:
- good placements for Greece and Germany
- a first win for Cyprus
- BIGGER AND MORE DIVERSE JURIES (clearly thats very important to me)
-bringing back juries to semifinal
-ditching the pre-recorded backing vocalists
-expanding the number of members in each country's jury panel. five is too few, so I think 10 or 12 will make a good number
-having relatively-shorter interval period for the grand final (maximum of 30 minutes, please)
If we're expanding the number of member sin each jury panel it would benefit the jury friendly songs even more. Like in the televote we often see way more "big points" and way more "low points", it's much more spread out while in the jury it's not as spread out. But if we would increase the total members in each jury the average jury score in each country would look much more like eachother.
For example, now theres 5 jurors, and if one juror put Germany #1, it would most likely end up in the Top 10 overall jury score from that country and it would get at least 1 point despite the other members putting Germany very low. But if there was 10 jurors and only one juror put Germany first and the others put it in the bottom, Germany wouldn't get any points. The countries that would benefit are the jury friendly songs. So for example Loreen would most likely get EVEN MORE jury points if there was 10 jurors.
yesss I agree, I hated having a televote only semi
I would absolutely love for a country who hasn't won before to win (preferably one relatively close to me, so I can actually go there. C'mon, Slovenia and Czechia, you got this!)
Let’s go! 🎉
RAIVEN will win for Slovenia and ESC 2025 will be in Ljubljana!
C'mon Poland
My wishes for Eurovision 2024
- to see at least 40 countries compete
- Juries need to be more diverse and more of them
- to see Australia to extend their contract, or become permanent in the contest
- to see a country win that has never won the contest before
- only 2 hosts for the show
- trial random order in the grand final, based on what the artists draw out (which half and what slot number)
The running order was definitely one of the main issues over the last two decades. Remember that we never had a winner with a running order from 1 to 8 since we have two semis. I would love to see more shows before the final like the ASC had, so running order isn't a main thread anymore.
I only have one wish: a bigger jury (15-20 people)
YES MY GIRLS ARE BACK AND READY FOR ACTION
YES. We are rested and snatched, as they say.
The songs during the recap should be played in the opposite order, so the last song in the competition is played first and the first one is played last. So songs of the first half of the final have a better chance to win, since they stay better in your mind while voting.
My hopes for Eurovision 2024:
*1.* A competitive lineup with musical and linguistic diversity.
*2.* The winner to be selected by the public (no 2023) and for strictly musical reasons (no 2022).
*3.* Latvia, Georgia & Ireland finally breaking their NQ streaks, as long as they deserve to.
*4.* Juries to vote again in the semifinals (to avoid another 'Aijā' level of injustice).
*5.* Juries to be reformed or their vote to be minimized, which refers to my 2nd wish.
*6.* Every entry to reach its full potential through a flawless staging & performance (which will lead to a strong competition). I'm tired of seeing good songs be ruined live.
*7.* Have a first time winner, preferably Iceland, Malta or Cyprus which are old countries. Realistically Lithuania, Czechia, Armenia or Australia might as well make it in 2024.
*8.* If 7 isn't possible, at least have a country win who hasn't won in the 21st century, namely Spain, France (both of which have been trying hard in recent years) and also Switzerland, Belgium, UK & Ireland. Why not even Luxembourg?
*9.* Have at least 41 countries participating (all 37 from 2023 plus Luxembourg, Montenegro, North Macedonia & Monaco).
*10.* No Petra Mede as host. I'm sure that Sweden can find other entertaining presenters. Also I'm tired of seeing Måns Zelmerlöw every year, though in 2024 it is guaranteed.
*11.* Returning artists from 2-3 countries, especially ones which were underrated in their previous participation. A returning winner would be interesting though.
*12.* Countries to get out of their comfort zones and send other than their usual stuff.
*13.* Less formulaic songs by songwriting teams (e.g. Borislav Milanov) but songs written by the singers themselves.
*14.* No more copycat stagings from uninspiring stage directors (e.g. Sacha Jean Baptiste) which applies to 6.
*15.* As less drama as possible. No more whining about national final favourites or undeserved NQs or bullying artists for those reasons.
*16.* My country to do well, preferably with a unique ethnic song and not another westernized uptempo song (2021) or ballad (2022).
Any questions?
Looks like I am getting my last wish granted... very happy for it. Probably not my 9th though...
Also I am not optimistic about 4 & 5.
I would like to that the bands were allowed to play live, to plug in the instruments. It would be more fair for bands.
Do we know the (potential) jury results from the semi finals?
I don't think they should change things too much. We do need the juries to give a professional/wider overall view. It certainly adds to the drama and makes for some interesting, sometimes heated, discussions once we have disected the final result.
My wishes.....to penalize certain countries for the very, very predictable voting, exchanging 24points year after year after year with their "best friends". So frustrating. Yes .... Cyprus/Greece love in just one example.
Also a wider range of alicating points so more songs get rewarded. Award 1 to 12 points so 12 songs get recognise and the top two don't get such a boost.
We all like different songs, stagings, artists and that is part of the beauty of the ESC and why I love it so much. I'm already excited the new season is here.
Juries are needed to keep the contest semi professional juries that buddy vote should be given a years ban from the next contest as punishment repeat infractions get your delegation removed from the contest completely.
100% in agreement with this suggestion. It's so frustrating, crazy and gives a false end result. Sadly it has been an issue for years and the displeasure of the dedicated fans has now become comical when Cyprus/Greece exchange 24points!! Surely the organisers can sort this out.
I still love the competition and am so excited the new session is here.
jelena karleusa's song La Bomba was written for eurovision, she wanted to represent Slovenia in 2020 together with a Drag Queen from Brazil, but then they have some problems and she withdraw from this eurovision project.
I hope for an ABBA reunion
How would they have done the "cha cha chas" if you got rid of pre-recorded vocals?
Just give more mics to the audience, they shouted loud enough!
They didn't even have that, i think your ears is not good
Completely agree with the removal of backing vocals. It was useful during COVID but it's mostly in the past now.
I agree somewhat with the randomly assigned running order. Instead of First/second half, maybe have like a 1-5, 6-10 then the producers go from there.
I don’t have much else to add but if we’re gonna name drop artists from the NF season, Klara Hammarstrom NEEDS to win Melfest soon. Also, just any artist that got robbed of their chance in 2020, should be able to come back asap if it’s something that they still wanna do.
7:41 Jury put Latvia through,
Did the ebu release the Jury results of the semis?
Nooo they didn’t. I was just projecting my personal taste / making a prediction. Heat and love of the moment ❤️
Are semi final jury results of this year published? How William knows Latvia would go through?
Oops. I was just projecting my personal taste / making a prediction 😆
@@Wiwibloggs Oh, okay. I thought you had some backstage information 😅😅
To me, complaints about pre-recorded back-up vocals and random running order seems extremely naive about how the show felt 10 years ago. Shownumbers like Chanels and Noas could not be arranged if all the limited people on stage had to be vocalists instead of professional dancers. Advanced and cool staging overall would have to be nixed out of hand because show planning could not space out and work around them. Not to mention the awful and soul-crushing experiences of having to sit through 40-50 minutes of non-stop songs fated for the right part of the scoreboard clustered together (yes, fated, you don't come between 7-10th in the semi and suddenly have a chance of winning). And if you seriously think back-up vocals "saves bad vocal performers" maybe you should check out what happened to Denmark this year...
What I'm hoping for is a winner who either hasn't won at all or in a very long time. Either one of the Eastern European countries or maybe like a Spain!
The best song should win,if , Sweden has the best song next year they should win again. It’s a song contest, not a country contest, And no I’m not Swedish not even Scandinavian ❤
Absolutely loved this video! Roll on Malmö 2024🫶🏼😊
Thank you so much for watching, Chris. We are glad to be back!
NO MORE PRE RECORDED BACKING VOCALS. MAKES A MOCKERY OF THE CONTEST
In 2008, the wild card was used and Sweden (Charlotte Perrelli) did go through thanks to it, and in 2009 Serbia didn't go in the Final, because the jury chose Croatia over Serbia, even though Serbia had 10 points more than Croatia. I believe it is was not used anymore after 2009. Great video!🥰🥰🥰
Absolutely in love with the 'wildcard' jury selection for the semis.
The problem is that we in Sweden always want's to send good quality songs to Eurovision. Plus with the international juries it is impossible for a song in style like Theoz or Panetoz to win because the juries doesn't vote for those kind of songs. Next year I would love to see us in Sweden send a song that doesn't take the contest bloody serious. I mean we are automatically qualified for the final and we probavly won't win next year, so why not just send something fun and different for once.
First thing that comes to mind are Ghost. That'd kill me and feels like a thing they'd do for the laughs. But they're probably to big 😂
I lowkey disagree about the juries not liking songs that is not serious, Theoz was the only one except for Loreens who were getting a 12 p from the international juries. But I hope the swedish people dare vote for quality music that is different from the usual take.
Yess 100% agree. Need more pop uplifting songs like efendi loreen noa & chanel. So happy & great to see you two back! 🤍✨
my only hope is that the UK/Ireland win soon because I desperately want tickets and I live in the UK so I can only go to those 2 😂 wasn't able to get them this year :(
We hope you make it to a live show soon ❤🎉
thanks! :)@@Wiwibloggs
My hope for Eurovision 2024 is the pre party in Amsterdam that it will be amazing as like the last edition. Noboby was bad (except my own country because they were off) but still it was good❤
I think that in Eurovision 2024, we just need better songs. Eurovision just needs to upgrade more, and improve the show.
We need Erika vikman!!!
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I would love to see countries (who haven't done it much in the past) hold a national final. For example The Netherlands.
Wish Ireland would up their game like Denmark and Azerbaijan need to as well. A country like Poland, Czechia (Czech Republic) Iceland etc. winning for the first time. Last time we had that was with Portugal in 2017 or a country that has not won it in a long time win like Spain, Switzerland and Belgium etc.
ZARA LARSSON needs to be there!!!!!!!!!!
It'll never happen for finanial reasons - but, only the countries that take part in the grand final get to vote in the grand final ☺
I want Eurovision Village free (not cost anything) 🤑
I’m a teacher and I show my kids all of these songs and these kids eat up “EKKO Inni Meg” and “Unicorn”
I want.....William's hair :)
Petra mede needs too host😍 love from norway❤️
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My wishlist for Eurovision 2024 is as follows.
* Have a country who's never won the contest before do so like Albania, Iceland, or Malta which would be nice to see or someplace that's not won in a long time e.g Spain, France, or Finland as Sweden's now won it most times in recent years being 2012, 2016, and 2023 which if they did again in 2024 would be boring and generic for me.
* Don't have Mans Zelmerlow or Petra Mede host again but new people this time as they've hosted together already and Petra hosted one time on her own before that.
I'd like to see people not known prior and learn about them as I'm sure Sweden has many music or TV personalities who can do that instead.
* Remove pre-recorded vocals and bring back live voices only because it is a singing contest as well as a performance show and having artists sing live tells people who are good and not good in their eyes.
* Bring back juries for both semi-finals so creditable songs that won't get through on televoting alone do so allowing a good mixture of numbers to have a fair chance of winning overall but there must be caveats to stop the bribing which occurred between certain nations voting for others in 2022.
Firstly the number of jurors is increased from 5 to between 10-14 per delegated entry.
Those people must be experienced in a particular style of music and have more than one genre featured to be labelled as a jury like pop, rock, classical/opera, r and b/hip hop/soul, musical theatre, alternative music, and traditional music.
Any person who competed but didn't win their national final is not counted in this category.
The number of jurors from one country can be known to the general public and what genre they're experienced in but not who they are to protect their identities.
Nations aren't in the same room when voting so everyone chooses on their merit and isn't influenced by what other folks like.
And finally, the reason why nations voted in a particular order whoever they liked is known e.g. better vocals or staging, consistent timing, or grander melody.
* Showcase more songs in native tongues which I like as that makes entries unique and is a way people learn foreign languages although I do understand why countries send songs in English because it's easier to know and has more chances of winning overall.
* Have new European countries in the contest like Kazakhstan emitting more diversity.
* More places aren't afraid of sending alternative music like Serbia in the past couple of years.
* Greater love given to outside-of-the-box or EDM songs which don't do well and not so much pop songs unless any particular entries are outstanding then.
One way of doing that is to have jurors experienced in those genres.
* Change how running orders are selected so fewer entries that mightn't do as well as better-liked ones get more points themselves.
* And use a live orchestra to complement number 3 which I enjoyed before pre-recorded instrumentation came in though I do know that won't ever happen again because of budget and everything.
My only wish is that there will be entries that I like more than 2023. It was not a good year. Who wins doesn´t matter so much. I want the entertainmen
Is this Sinan a cartoon character? He is literally animated. He doesn't act like a human. it's crazy. I've never seen someone be so theatrical without... well.. being in a pantomime
I would love to see ren represent the uk
let's include lady gaga in the jury.😁
I hope Wiwi will be more objective, in 2024, it’s eurovision, not USAvision ❤️
Bring us Petra Mede!!!
Not her, or Zemerlow again. It's just getting too stale and boring.
You mean forcing the same host over and over is a good idea? For your information, Petra have massive back problems right now and Måns can take a break from Eurovision now, he has been in it too much.@@ar50000
@@ar50000dont ever say that about these two again
@@unaberg Not her, or Zemerlow again 🙂
I want to see Tone Sekelius, John Lundvik and Carola hosting ESC 2023.
I agree that in 2020 nature couldn't handle awesome songs , my wish is to bring back the juries in the semi
My wish for 2024...
Evangelia at Eurovision
Yeah I'm still not convinced Noa brought the vocals like... she was very shaky literally every time she wasn't 100% stationary so I'm very surprised, not from the public vote, but the jury vote like... you really wanna tell me the judges liked her vocals more than Marco's, Blanca's or even Andrew's??? The public is one thing but the juries are supposed to vote good vocals above everything else and, she wasn't terrible, of course, but since they gutted Alessandra, I was surprised they didn't do the same to Noa. Unless she gave the performance of her life in the jury show or they felt bad that her dancer made her fall 😂😂
Luckily she didn’t win, I think Israel doesn’t belong in this competition, unless they stop killing innocent people, peace first❤
Willy... Seriously? Luxembourg is only ballads? La Papa Pingouin? Parlez Vous Francais? Pomme Pomme Pomme? TUUUUUNES
How about Switzerland winning again ❤
Why not? Let's do thiiis!
Most of the people in the US think we won in 2023 😂
Suree but expensive
Macedonia to return!
Eurovision is at crisis. That's happening since some years now and the cause is that Eurovision feels away from people. Televoting made Eurovision great and put it at the top. As the years passed jury didn't vote right as supposed to and the popularity of the contenst is going from bad to worst. If ebu is smart it will reduce the power of juries to 30% or lower or remove them eventually. If juries did their job right that wouldn't be the case, but that year even lorreens fans knew juries weren't fair and that happened almost every year , specifically 2023,2019 and 2016,2015 and the list keeps going Give power to the people cause the show is about them. If they keep the system as it is in a few years we will have 30 or less competitive countries and Sweden will be always top 10 no matter if they deserved it .
"Denmark always step it up when Eurovision is in Sweden" Lighthouse X say otherwise
Reduce jury power.
Cant wait for Sweden to win
Cinan and William praising Jelena Karleuša as if she's not openly supporting Serbia's surge into authoritarianism, and as if her albums weren't a state project rather than an artistic one
Interesting! How can I learn more?
@@chilachilachi She has been appearing at government events, being promoted by government officials (or vice versa) for a while now and more recently she is appearing at ruling party organized anti-protests as a response to protests following a surge in violence. Now, Telekom Srbija is funding her albums. She is defending the current system, which is essentially totalitarian, and insulting everybody that criticizes the government
I da ne zaboravimo kako se lepo popišala po mrtvoj deci.
Oh come on even Kim Kardashian copys Jelena and admited it and many others, she IS kust an ICON and we all know if she went to ESC she would blow everyone away with staging and would for sure end up top 5 for Serbia, stop mixing this political bullshit, she is not a new singer she has a career of 20+ years.
@@MusicDiLaurentis She delved into politics by her own choice, not mine. Stop shifting blame
I have an aunt with facial hair. She isn't doing it ironically... She's old and old women sometimes get facial hair. Let's not try and tell girls having a beard and hairy pits is normal because men don't like that and they will only be depressed when they try and pull a man as an adult