Common Mistake Players Make Learning to Throw in Disc Golf | Beginner Tips and Tutorials
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
- Wait....are we throwing down a distance video on the channel?? One of my favorite parts of coaching is getting to work with folks on an individual basis when I can, but one of the major drawbacks is enough time to work with more people individually. As I continue to work with folks, it's fascinating how some of the same problems occur with different folks and body types. We setup a special day at Dynamic Discs Iron City, offering free form reviews and recorded them all day. So what was the major factor I kept seeing players come into when it came to distance?? You'll have to watch to find out!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:28 Setting the Table
3:12 The In Person Sessions
9:48 What We Can't Teach
11:43 How Do I Know if I'm Doing This??
14:05 How to Fix It?
17:38 Wrap Up - Sport
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Thank You boss!! I knew Josh had to have a video on it!!
@@RobbieCDiscgolf Reciprocating Dingle Arm and Double Dragon Drill.
This video right here is one of the main reasons why I subbed. You not only show the reason why some disc golfs can't throw far, but it's not because they are throwing high-speed discs or something like that. It is the fact that the fundamental stuff is incorrect and you're trying to the best you can to correct the most common mistakes new players make that might ccause them to quit early on. Thank you, Robbie.
I just had my first live training and the trainer stopped everything I learned from YT. That day nothing worked....one day later less reach back more whip good pressure and athletic stance and damn it feels like there is something going on💪
The best advice was not reaching back but turn shoulder to 90 degrees and nearly 10 o clock release point with the feeling that the disc rips out of the hand and of course hips first. I use a strap to train whip and hip first
I dont have a good drive, but I play well enough where it didnt make me want to quit. I can maybe on a good day throw about 300 feet and I really don't care if thats good or not. I just play with my friends for fun anyway.
@@notsure1350 the best player on every course is the guy or lady that has the most fun 🤩
Robbie, this is your best content to date. Others wont see its beauty. Wisdom often falls on deaf ears.
I've been watching your channel for a while. Your understanding has blossomed.
I'm PDGA 308. I agree with your observations. We in DG need to stop talking about "throwing" the disc. Teach from the beginning, "whipping" the disc. This is formally, conservation of momentum. Feeling the hit spot is the snapping of the whip. It applies to all throws, even putting.
The second force available to everyone regardless of athletic ability is elastic potential, as you mention. A relaxed muscle stretches more than a flexed one. Flexing the back muscles and core, while the hips slide forward and turn at the moment of maximum stretch releases the elastic potential. The "slingshot" or rubber band snaps.
Just these two forces get people to 300, any age or athleticism.
This is the foundation for adding athletic skills in legs to increase linear force and rotational force, etc. That take people to 400+.
You understand that throwing with the arm and muscle tension in the arm are the biggest barriers to distance. Bravo!
Thanks for putting this out there. Let's hope these ideas spread.
I never thought about "focusing" on my off shoulder to formalize the back swing. That makes so much sense now. Once I get some time, I think I'm going out to the field to make sure and dial it in a little bit and warm up, then out to the course to see what I can do with it. Thanks again, Robbie!
i don’t think i’ve seen a single video on this ever. this is exactly what i’ve been looking for every single video just says power grip and launch it straight but nothing tells you about the other half of your body or HOW to engage your hips. i saw your forehand video on foundation and you have the best educational content for anyone. thank you so much.
Brother, your dedication to putting all of this information together and your obvious passion for trying to help out the desperate and near clueless newbie masses with uploads like this one is APPRECIATED SO MUCH! You're one of the good ones. God bless and thank you so much.
i’m at about 415 and have been getting pretty sore after playing, knew i was doing something wrong, finally figured it out! thanks robbie! cant wait to go practice today!
Nick another awesome video! I'm 65 and been playing for about 4 months. This sport is a blast and makes us old dudes young again!!
Love your channel. I'm a 55 yr old youtube junkie, and I started playing last year. You're by far the most relatable coach. And believe me, I watch everything disc golf! Thanks, and I really hope your channel continues to grow and support you.
I've been throwing with my arm rather than launching with my body this entire time. Most informative video on distance form I've seen yet. The multiple examples of actual people's bad form and how you see their mistakes makes it so much easier to tell what I'm doing wrong.
I’ve been “muscling” the disc for a while now and have been hard stuck around the 300-320 range and with only 2 days I’m up to 363 your always giving great advice thank you for being so amazing
I think you just saved me from quitting DG. I have been playing for 3+ years and have seen very little improvement over the last 2 years. Found myself asking why I even play if I can't improve. I know my form is all jacked up, and this is just one of many things I need to work on. But you are the first person I have seen explain it this way and I greatly appreciate your efforts!
That’s just a stall. I’ve been playing much longer, you will get better if you don’t quit.
Do you ever practice without even throwing the disc? visualize helps if you are stagnant - - Personally I started last fall - and I set a goal of 3 years to even consider rating myself. I live in Canada - so we only have small window of daily play due to the winter . You will plateau naturally in any games you play so don't be hard on yourself have fun is the goal.
This video is so perfect. When I start dg I watch 1000's of videos about a far reachback. For the last 2 years I have been muscling my throw to a comfortable 250 to 300 with terrible spin and my left arm just getting in the way. Thanks for explaining it so perfectly
This Eric has a very similar experience
I saw this 4 months ago and re watched it again today. Still finding tips from this video! Thank you!
This video has had a huge impact on my game. Thanks a million, Robbie. I wish I’d watched this on day one of my interest in the sport; It would have saved me injuries and frustration. Keep up the great work and excellent content.
I believe this is my struggle. Coming from an athletic background, I do understand the rubber band effect. However, I still want to use my muscles to throw the disc. I will be attempting the swing low exercise and then using it on the course. Thank you Robbie!
I never threw stones as a kid - throwing a cricket or baseball is a whip like action even playing badminton or mixed social softball in my thirties/forties - it took me awhile to warm up and loosen my body - funny thing is at my high school probably worse than average throw - yet I could judo throw in fights and won a school shotput and arm wrestling comp - so yes I believe this is way for me to go - should go back to swimming for fun to loosen up though as have very inflexible back I've seen people throw balls further than me - with just a casual forearm whip
Just standing in front of my computer, watching you do the "how to fix it" movement and trying to repeat it myself without anything in my hands, i can already feel how much more explosive this is, what in the actual f! I don't think any discgolf video or coach explanation ever has hit me as hard as that, and other points in this video. Great stuff Robbie
Been playing disc golf for 15 years, and this video explains very well, what it took me years to figure out, and does so in a way where it even still helped me visualize more clearly/simply what I’ve struggled to teach myself. Very great perspective/way to think and explain this concept!
hey man i’m 14 (started playing a little less than a year ago) and reached 450 ft the other week and you were a big part of helping me get there. keep making these amazing videos.
This video may have saved my game. Idgaf what that means for anyone else. Much appreciation for this video. Thank you
This was such a great reminder to stay loose. Been playing for almost 3 yrs with no improvement on distance in about 2 years due to focusing too much on the right side of my body. Just the other day I was thinking about focusing on my opposite shoulder, and this made it make so much more sense. Thanks for the great content!
I’ll an old timer (PDGA #22644) and learned with rounding and muscling. This video is great and the left shoulder tip is great.
One thing I’ve noticed is that when I muscle the throw, my throwing arm gets in front or leads and I have a tough time engaging my left side. It also prevents from getting that good lag of a loose throwing arm to whip through.
Keep up the good work, Robbie!
Thank you. Watching this video made the light bulb above my head explode. I couldn’t even make it 100% through before heading to the park to try it out. I’m back now though to finish. It even helped me improve my forehand.
"New" to disc golf (6 months) and I must admit that I was thinking distance in every shot at the beginning. Gave me shoulder and elbow problems since I thought this was all about power 🙄
I watched this and thought "no way" ...
Hesitantly I took my bag, went out to test this. Yes I use a camera as well 😉
After a few days I'm back and I subscribed to this fine gentleman.
Thank you sir. 130m are now easy with no pain 🙏
Ive been playing off and on since the late 80's and Im wowed! This actually worked. I was one of those reachers. Thanks so much for the extra 80 feet, so far!
Hey Robbie, coming back to this video two weeks later and I got to say THANK YOU. After viewing this video it made me think of my Disc golf form and restart it entirely. I can now throw faather then I used to and less scramble shots. Thank you so much!
Robbie - I’ve never posted anything anywhere. Been playing 9 years and you just called out everything that explains my form. Huge THANK YOU! Best form review review video I’ve ever see !
Robbie, I was skeptical. I have seen a lot of distance form videos lately. Watching you help those people with their form really clicked with me. Can’t wait for some warm weather to get out for some field work. Thanks and keep it up
Incredible advice. Can’t express how appreciative I am for your content. Definitely one of the best on CZcams. Thanks Robbie.
Can't wait to try this! I've never thought of focusing on the left shoulder blade. I still tend to muscle the discs a lot. Thanks Robbie!
Yes! I had heard most of the points you mention but haven't seen it presented in such a concise and understandable manner. All the pieces have come together here. Great video. More please?
I can not say how much I appreciate your content Robbie! I started watching your videos when I was trying to refine my backhand - it was right as you were starting your channel. And now several years later, I feel a lot better about my game as a whole, but I still always get something out of all your videos!
Thanks for all the time and knowledge you share, and for doing it in such a fun, humble way. You’re the best, sir!!
16:46 is why we all watch Robbie - Great video! Really nice Flappy Bird
Didn’t see anyone mention this yet. That drill is the twirly bird 2.0. Any time I’m showing a new player how to throw that’s definitely where I start. Super helpful drill. Great video!
This video is what I need. I have been doing the very thing you point out not to do, and that was reaching, pushing, and pulling with my arm. I never thought of the shoulder movement. Thank you.
One of the best form review/form help videos I’ve seen on CZcams. Can’t wait to start incorporating this into my own form work.
One of your best videos yet Robbie (and you have MANY good videos). So helpful to me and many others I am sure.
15:55 the twirly bird! I love it!
Robbie soaked up all the knowledge and brings us the perfect resumé! Thank you 🙏🏽 ❤
I feel like this video was made just for me. Can't wait to get out and practice. After watching this, I know I am definitely using all arm. Thank you!
Love the in person vids. Brilliant!
ABSOLUTELY CRUSHED THIS CONTENT Robbie!! TY!!!
This is super helpful. I’ve been working on trying to stay loose for the last several months, and it has in fact been working well, but this just dug a bit deeper into my understanding and now I can’t wait to try this info out this weekend.
This whole video makes total sense. I've been trying to learn how to throw my left arm through. I've always focused on the arm and it felt very forced. I'm going to now focus on my left shoulder blade and keeping everything else loose, tweak where needed and see what happens. You're the man Robbie C, thanks!
Thank you Robbie C. This is something I definitely have never heard or tried. Definitely gonna get some field reps doing the left shoulder back. You rock
Watched this on my lunch break….tried after work, this was the biggest game changer to my driving so far…feeling very thankful for the part you play in the disc golf community!
Love this video! Been working lower body form and can’t wait to integrate the floppy twist and flow!
You have provided some key elements that make sense. I’ve been power driving, using my throwing arm to power through shots. I kept seeing that I should whip without understanding how to begin the journey. 100 something videos I have watched and yours finally provides me the basics to understand how to fix my basics. Thank you!
One of my favorite videos already. SOLID.
Robbie - Holy Shit, this is GOLD
I think you are underestimating the value of this video. I sincerely think this is the most important form lesson on CZcams.
This is the 450’ barrier.
For the uninitiated, every 50’ of distance is harder to get than the last. New players always get hung up at 350, then 400, and few people break 450’.
Robbie was spot on that you WILL get stuck between 4 and 500 when you pull, strong arm, or start the chainsaw. BUT THATS WHAT EVERYONE TEACHES. Then you have to unlearn those habits and it sucks.
Another key point that I think could be emphasized a bit more. You have to reach more out than back. If back is 180 degrees, you need to reach closer to 120. That allows you to rotate further back or ‘earlier’ in the throw. You don’t create enough space by extending straight back. Notice how much more your off shoulder pulls your throwing arm in, when you reach out as opposed to back.
Seriously 90% of players won’t appreciate how important that video is.
I’m 7 months in . Getting better every time I play . Your channel is a big help sir . Thanks a bunch
Thanks for the thoughts and illustrations, Robbie - good stuff here.
🤯 this was amazing. I can't believe I've never realized how simple yet effective the off shoulder bit you were talking about could be
This is the most important information new players needs to know!
I appreciate this. I’ll be working on this swing thought today when I practice. Thanks Robbie
Another great video, I hope I can implement this when I can get outside. I figure I will be coming back to watch this again.
Great video bro👏 The way you explained arm speed/everything coming together as far as form goes was phenomenal! Thanks for helping so many disc golfers bro👏
This is with out a doubt the most helpful video I have ever watched relating to form. Bravo!
Watched your video... went back and watched my own video of me throwing. Wow! I can definitely see how I'm not dropping that shoulder on the throw and strong-arming the disc. Thank you for the video! Can't wait to get back out to do some field work and get my form worked out!
Such good info. I appreciate all your videos man! Keep up the tips and walkthroughs.
The first person I have seen to put it in a way that makes sense to me. going to try this for sure as I know I have been strong arming it. Thanks dude!
I was guilty of using muscle to throw. The thing that fixed it for me was learning how to properly uncoil my hips. I learned really quickly that I was actually losing a lot of power by not letting shoulders control my arm.
Phenomenal, thank you! I rarely get to play with anyone above my skill level so I rarely get critiqued. Knowing I can/need to make improvements I came here. Can't wait to go do some field work.
Dude! I have been watching so many form videos and.... that part about rocking and feeling the sway..... I just tried some dry runs with a towel and actualy got a pop and it did not hurt my elbow when I released. I have been trying to hulk it out and could not figure out why my arm was hurting. Thankyou for showing me form over strength. Robbie thank you for helping me. Please keep putting content like this out. ( I hope this helps to bring the joy back to the game.) Now am off to my flowtrole addiction. Keep them comming man.
Wow, so I watched this video a few weeks ago, and it honestly changed things for me. I've been trying to fix my form for months and though I fixed some things this seemed to be the missing piece. The last two weeks have been the best progress I've seen in ages. Everything feels more comfortable and I'm getting 10-15% more distance from each disc. I never comment on CZcams videos but this information means a ton to me. Thanks my guy!
This is eye opening, and a great thing to focus on in my game I think. Thanks for the consistent content Robbie.
so helpful.. i've been getting better on the whip but this just told me even though i've gained distance and accuracy i'm still definitely strong arming it
This was one of things I thought I had been doing, but as I changed stuff in my throw I reverted back to bad habits and went away from. This offseason has mostly been spent drilling that disc placement and arm position in my head, and I think seeing this gives me another good way to really think about what I need to do. Thanks!
Amazing. Went to the park today to give this a try and it immediately helped me throw better/further/more consistent.
Best video yet!! I am 5' 8" with a muscular build, oh and 60 years old. I can drive about 300-325 but feel that there's more there. I believe i do throw with my arm and lose the whole left side momentum of my hips and off shoulder, any more videos like this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you sir.
This video seriously increased my record distance by a 100feet in 3 rounds of discgolf.. wtf. THANK YOU!
Amazing video, honestly. Thank you Robbie‼️ already working on it in my living room
Awesome video. Been having a few things click for me lately and this video is helping fill the holes in my form
Holy ish Robbie - always digg your vids and love the way you teach but the focus on my off shoulder was a whole new world to me ! Thanks for another great tool in the box
wow, thanks for this. Someone showed this to me 2 years ago. Did not get it then after 2 days. But after a couple of minutes watching your video I understand the basics of how to do it and what I have done wrong. Thank you! =)
Rat tail towel technique, was how I was taught to drive my disc. This video opened my eyes on how to improve my drive
Great video. I appreciate the way you give reasons and evidences for why we should do things instead of just telling us we should do it. As an elementary teacher I find it frustrating when I see tips and advice without a connection to how it affects the actual throw. Keep being awesome (and quirky)!
i’ve been here since the beginning and i gotta hand it to you robbie, this is the best informative video you’ve ever made. cheers!
Great video Robbie!! I will definitely try this as I’m sure I’ve been using my arm as you referenced that players might be doing. Thanks for all the great tips!!
I really liked you showing clips of your instruction to a few disc golfers. I would love to see more of that.
Man o man. This video has just helped me so much. I’ve been playing for about 6 years and could never figure out the off arm. It always was dead weight behind. That advice on pulling the shoulder blade back gave me that aha moment! I can’t wait to get out there and practice.
Thanks a ton for this one, Robbie! I love your content, but this one just hit different. The thought of pulling the left shoulder back and then driving it down through with the loose arm was something that turned on a light immediately....my throws were just shooting straight out right on the line I was on. You're the best!
Lots of knowledge and perfect explanation. I think you might have found my problem. Thanks for the tips ill try to put them in action today!
Came to your channel because I enjoyed your presence on the foundation channel and you've earned a subscriber my friend. What an absolute pleasure of a human being to learn from.
Welcome!! Glad to have ya!!
Nice one! Its been great following you these 2-3 years since i started playing and I look forward to more =) Love from Sweden
This was the video I needed to watch! Thanks Robbie
Great video! Can’t wait to try!
You are a solid coach. What a great opportunity for everybody involved
I needed this. Thank you!!
I feel this is going to help my consistency. Thanks as always 🤘🤘🤘💪💪
Great video seriously. Thanks for the very informative video well done. I'm gonna make a video of me trying this technique to see how it impacts my throws
Robbie C., THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH(IN CAPS!!!!), for making this beginner tutorial for disc golf throws. The major importance of keeping the arms loose and getting that back shoulder up and driving down into the brace leg and foot is priceless!. The difference is evident and I for one will attest to that. Thank you again Robbie C. for all the disc golf instruction you have give to us players trying to get better at the game. Before you know it, and I will spread the word of your channel, your 55K number of subscribers will be at 100K soon!.☺Most Sincerely, Bill M., PDGA member 7378 and life long promoter of disc golf since 1993☺
Would you please consider making a similar video for those of us who strictly throw forehand?
as someone who started out throwing almost exclusively forehand, if you haven't seen it, Eagle's forehand clinic video from a couple years ago is top notch and really breaks things down nicely
Dude. Thank you! I needed this video.
Watched a ton of videos about form. I don't think I've seen anything discuss this. Thanks for awesome content!
I haven't taken it to the field yet, but just wanted to say your description and demenstration of how to achieve the correct arm positioning and throwing movement for disc golf was the first time it has "clicked" for me. So, thank you for that.
I like Robbie’s explanation of the off arm movement. I haven’t seen that before, looking forward to giving it a try.
Thanks Robbie for another wonderful and informative video. Distance is my weakest part of the game and I’m glad to hear playing tight is not making it any better. I experience problems with timing on the reach back as well. We hope to see you next time we come by the shop.
Man this is what I've been looking for!
This is more of what I have seen Paul McBeth and Drew Gibson doing as I watch them on their videos, but I can’t get them to explain it like Robbie C. Now I can use this to train. Forget about they lawn mower pull that I have been trying to do with little success.