Joel Rifkin Case Analysis | Mental Health & Personality
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- This video answers the questions: Can I analyze the Joel Rifkin case? What are the mental health and personality factors at work in this case?
JR was a serial killer who murdered 17 victims from 1989 to 1993 in New York.
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That bullying from his peers is heartbreaking. It has to stop.
It's sad overall him being a victim and the people he victimized.
I think it takes a lot for hurt people not to hurt people in some way
Punks
I think the only way to ensure it stops is to homeschool your kids now. The bullying has become way more extreme since I left school.
@@reswobiandreaming3644 Its all just media sensationalism. Bullying has gotten way better, not worse. Mainly because teachers/authority figures are much more likely to stop it than when I was in school.
What, do you mean "cyber-bullying"
LOLOLOL!!
@@reswobiandreaming3644 I was bullied in 6th grade and asked to be transferred to another school.
I never ever did any harm to others. Furthermore, I am an Empath. :o)
Being bullied is one of many excuses' monsters use to justifying their horrible crimes
I love waking up in the morning to murder, mayhem, and a wry sense of humor. Thank you.
Completely agreed. That straightfaced humor makes my day every time.
I like going to bed to it. But agreed one hundred percent!
Me,Too !!
You should probably talk to someone about that
Me too! Glad to know I’m not the only one. Educational and entertaining!
A strange coincidence with the Seinfeld episode is that, when Elaine was trying to convince her boyfriend to change his name, she was looking through names of professional athletes, and one of her suggestions was O.J. This of course was several months before the Nicole Brown Simpson murder.
I went to a catholic school, and I cannot recall one incident of bullying. A friend tells me she can remember the principal Sister sitting us down on a day someone was absent, because we were "verging" on bullying the absent girl, and told us to knock it the hell off, and how would we feel. The nuns couldn't make us connect with all the other kids, but they sure stopped us from obviously excluding, let alone taunting, etc.
Catholic School in the 60’s. No bullying, I can attest.
@@barbarapetoskey8921* Except by the nuns.
@@johnbauman4005 you are using my name! Stop now
Hearing of his bullying and struggles in his youth broke my heart.
I was bullied like that. Im still amazed im not as screwed up in the head as I could be
@@moxiemaxie3543 consider your support system, people you meet that could have given you hope.. the environment you grew up with, your genes.
@@yzarcmw7794 i cut off most of my family and shrank my social circle. Im almost 30, stressed from the economic crisis but my spirit doesn't feel as heavy. Thanks you for your concern, hope you are well
@@moxiemaxie3543 good luck to you. Remember, you are not alone. Stay strong
Most Serial killers are born that way. Just listen to Jeffery Dahmers dad talk about him as a child. He would get excited hearing bones rattle when his dad would get dead animal out from under the house and one time asked his dad what would happen if you cut off a persons Navel.
Very thorough and logical discussion. I’d like to hear more about protective narcissism. Bullying indirectly led to the loss of 17 lives. We need to be kinder to each other.
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth" - African proverb.
Amen 🙏 to that
Dig that Nat..now..go burn a village bro..
Very true and very apt to this particular situation .
It's actually a European (Roman) proverb.
@@chamade166 how tragic as Rome wind up burning down
The yearbook club story is so devastating... obviously what Rifkin did was unforgivable and he made the active choice to do that but I'm pretty upset by his childhood. No kid deserves that.
Yes, that made me feel very sad too. I would be absolutely heart broken if my children were treated that way.
Society just failed this guy in the same way that it has for me. It's pretty sad.
@@reswobiandreaming3644 the world owes you nothing soy boy. Clean your room and get a job
@@dougrogan379 American society has decided that a taxpayer funded education is owed to every child in the country from K-12. If an educational environment is so poorly controlled that bullying and physical abuse can happen to any child at school, then that system is not fulfilling it's legal mandate and has failed that child. This happened to my child. Thankfully, we caught it early, and when the school did not address it responsibly, we had the resources to enroll him elsewhere. Not every family has that option.
@@reswobiandreaming3644 I’m so sorry. You don’t deserve that either. However, you really are the only one responsible for your life.
Always amazing to me how teachers are either oblivious or choose to not see when a student is being bullied.
I was bullied when I was in elementary school. The school mean girl picked to torture. I would complain to the teacher. In turn she would tell me to stand up for myself. Yeah Right!
I had this one bully, keep going after me. In front of other kids in Jr High. And he was kind of a little guy, somewhat.
I think he tried to make it seem like his friends would jump in and pound me if I reacted to him.
One day in the lunch line he was going at me, giving me $hit non stop, outta the blue I kicked him in the nuts so hard it dropped him flat. It came to me and I did it...................turns out his "friends" thought he was an a$$hole, and I ended up being buddies with one of them.
Or it’s the teacher doing it
Often when teachers try to do something, like grab the bully off the victim they're beating, the administration reprimands the teacher for laying hands on the bully. Teachers are often ignored or told to take notes and shut up.
I've always been interested in the psychology of serial killers. Thanks for this video!
Can't stand it..
@JRZ Z yeah, i've always thought that serial murders and mass shootings are two different responses to a similar mindset - feeling isolated from society, and then building resentment toward society, often blaming a particular subgroup
Ask me anything
Read Dougals's books...Dammed what are they called? He was a criminal profiler for the FBI when it first started. DARK and very disturbing
"Mind.....something i think..
@@thenarrator4786 I think many people feel like this but only a very small % kill. My 2 cents. Could be wrong
That was some Carrie-level bullying.
Joel Rifkin seems to have willed himself into being a serial killer. I've heard him speak and thats always the impression I got. Thank you for this dissection, Dr Grande. 🌹👍
He liked having the power of life or death over people. Mostly it's a control thing.
No. His fellow human beings the lack of warmth and empathy caused much suffering.
@@katemaloney4296 I disagree. I just watched a video where he is interviewed with an FBI profiler, and the profiler thinks it's about power but he refuses to listen Joel. Joel points out that he lets prostitutes walk over him all the time and rarely kills them. He is not a controlling person in 99% of his life.
Other serial killers are actually dominating in all areas of their life including work and family life. This guy wasn't. So I think that he is just getting lumped in with the others because the people evaluating him are unable to understand the nuance.
My best guess, is that this guy just had a sexual fetish that included extreme violence. It's not power. It's just objectification taken to an extreme.
@@chunkyMunky329 Maybe there is a wrong identification threat detector, defense mechanisms are there to make us violent or manipulative so we can avoid or fight real threats, NOT TO COVER NEEDS by using other humans, if this mechanism fails, you blame the young ones or the women etc (In general people that you can think that they have a future while you haven't, like pharaos 'let everyone die with me')
Let me explain why I have this opinion!
Example 1: if you avoid a narcissistic person or point his/her bad behaviour to your loved ones . Yes you are manipulative, but that doesnt means that threat is not real,
Example 2 : When you are geologist and you speaking about a volcano that will errupts you are manipulative, because you are trying to make the population to avoid this area
My OPINION (I am not sure of that) is that some psycological elemts are the same, connection-order and addiction is the same coin, the difference comes from functionality. What leads people to dyfunctionality not knowing. (SRY FOR MY ENGLISH)
You get off to that kind of stuff don't you missy boo boo.
I really wish we would take bullying far more seriously and prosecute such acts where appropriate and place both parties into therapy immediately to address the damage it does and to rehabilitate the offender. Nearly always the bullies get rewarded for their behavior while the victims spend a lifetime living with the consequences of a shattered sense of self, complex PTSD, and associated personality disorders or traits and health consequences. I spent my entire adolescence bullied incessantly dozens of times per day for 6 years uninterrupted, bullied by most of the school and a number of teachers simply for being seen as “different” and an “outsider” when I moved to a rural school at age 12 and was rejected after just a few months (magnified by the fact that the move itself was traumatic). The abuse completely destroyed my physical health by age 18 leaving me permanently disabled and even 36 years in I have never gotten past the damage done during those six years even at age 48 (myriad chronic health issues, disturbed sleep, severe chronic pain, disability, complex PTSD, strong Avoidant traits bordering on AvPD, and virtually no close friendships or relationships in all the years since due to an inability to trust anyone).
We really need to recognize bullying, especially repeated and ongoing bullying, for the crime it truly is as it is just another form of child abuse. It really should not surprise us when abuse like described in this video leads some to commit vicious crimes or launch a school massacre aimed at those who often spent years persecuting a victim to their breaking point and beyond as I do not think most people can even comprehend the amount of rage a teen can bottle up inside due to years of unending abuse by so many for so many years with no escape in sight. Those who perpetrated the childhood abuse that contributed to the victim’s descent into madness really ought to have to share in the criminal consequences for the crimes their own abusive acts ultimately set into motion. The saddest part really is that his victims had nothing whatsoever to do with his original victimization and that had the abuse not been perpetrated to begin with he may very well have grown to be a productive and responsible member of society instead of a mass murderer looking for his own innocent victims to abuse.
Some level of bullying should be a crime with punishment.
Same here. Was bullied all my life from high school trash who wanted to destroy me mentally, for being the new kid. I hate everyone from that Chicago school. Ruined me.
Grim childhood- bullying really is an issue, and it seems that it's even more so in the US- all those high school shooters...
I was bullied ruthlessly as a child. I turned out to be a bad teenager, and a criminal in my twenties. I've now grown far beyond those behaviors, yet my life has been irreparably damaged by the above mentioned traumas and poor decisions.
The School Shooter's phenomena has more to do with boys being raised as defective girls in the current gynocentric society, not having proper male role models growing up, being raised by single mothers and living behind a screen, not so much with being bullied as a child
There's a reason why we call this "the lost boys generation"
@@mainzergirl9610 I think I know what you're saying. Things were harsher before- more fights etc. But I think that now we can see much more bullying that's targeted specifically at one person. Back in the day I think that bullies were more "honorable". Now you have a group of kids who target one individual and ostracize him
@@filipefigueiredo9847 - been doing your own research?
@@sherunswithscissors We could ask the same of you.
LMFAO. I lost it when he said eligible for parole in 2197. :D
Could you do one on Richard Simmons and the psychology of him and his disappearance?
Alex Hill The Richard Simmons that exercised his way into our hearts in the 80’s?
@@B.I.-EIO_macdonald9786 yes, there was a whole podcast of him just cancelling all his exercise classes at the drop of a hat and had his house sealed at all times like a fortress. In the past, he'd hang out at his front yard to say hi to Hollywood tour buses.
I'm not a psychiatrist or anything, but as someone who experiences hypomania, it feels like Richard Simmons just withdrew from his manic character as it was too tiring to keep up with the facade. Also his beloved pet had passed and it seemed to trigger this behaviour.
@@AnnoyingAsianWitch It definitely was a facade. I remember reading someone saying he ate like a pig at a movie theater, he often looked a bit heavy, especially for an exercise guru, and he got rid of a lot of his fat through liposuction. Plus there was the whole barely-crypto-gay thing. All that must have exhausting to keep up. And maybe after a while he had enough money that he felt he didn't need to anymore. He's like an exercise version of Guy Fieri, about whom Anthony Bourdain said, it must be exhausting to be Guy Fieri and have to keep that up.
I am working towards my MS in Forensic Psych, I have cited several of these videos by Dr Grande, they are very well done and have actual science and facts, not just some A+E style true crime hype that just aims to be gratuitious. Thanks for the video and your continued work in this genre, you are helping a lot of people with these videos.
I saw Joel Rifkin bullied in high school. I remember seeing members of the Cross Country Team harassing him.
Long Island bully culture
Scary 😟
my sister went to college with a bunch of room mates from Long Island, man, what a bunch of mean girls they were. Really tough. Bullies too.
@@SubRosa33 my sister went to college with long island girls, her roomates....they were bullies and very tough girls, low morals too.
@@Jendromeda Sadly I did see this at the high school that I attended along with Rifkin. I have intervened on behalf of people being bullied quite a few times. I regret I didn't on this incident
Thank you for your thorough analysis of Rifkin. Very interesting case. His super-casual demeanor while recounting his horrific crimes is disturbing. Thanks again Dr. Grande!
It's so sad. You have to wonder if he'd had at least one friend, maybe he would have never done this. Bullying has been a problem for a very long time. It appears to make some kids stronger but it goes very badly for others.
Can you please analyze James Holmes? His psychology is incredibly abnormal
It actually wasn't that abnormal until he started taking antidepressants and became psychotic. Changing dosages of any antidepressants has potential side effects including psychosis and aggression to the self or others, but these are not described in the manuals medical professionals follow. In fact, the manuals advise to keep increasing the dosage until the desired amount if reached. Without professionals knowing the side effects, that can be a very dangerous thing to do.
@Bebekongo bebe There is definitely evidence on that. Just search ‘akathisia SSRI’ and plenty of research will appear.
@Bebekongo bebe How is your lack of psychosis evidence that SSRIs never do cause psychosis? These are obviously rare side effects.
Please just google “SSRI psychosis” or “SSRI akathisia” and see what research comes up.
@Bebekongo bebe No, not immediately. The medical history and timeline of James’ erratic behavior suggest that.
And on what grounds do you dismiss the possibility?
@@evasilvertant agreed. Several experts have weighed in and agreed that without the pharmaceuticals he likely would have never become a mass killer. Antidepressants are thought to be the major catalyst for several mass shooters.
1:42 minutes in to a 20 minute video of a serial killer "[about his first murder] he promised himself that he would never kill again"
*cue curb your enthusiasm theme*
great video as always, stay safe and take care
Great info as usual Dr. Grande. Joel Rifkin was a brutal killer but for some reason, I've always felt bad for him.
You feel bad for him because of what those bastard classmates of his did to him. The camera, the party,......he had the nerve to stay in the club after they stole the camera, then didnt invite him to the party. Soul destroyers.
Me too. I’m a sap.
We love you Dr Grande, show keeps getting better, I truly appreciate you and have learned and applied things you've taught, I am so GRATEFUL!
I always become torn at whether or not children reject people like him because they sense that he was messed up OR if the rejection from peers created the problem.
I see this is 2 years old, but I would offer that if children were taught by word and parental behavior to treat others as they would like to be treated, this wouldn’t be a question. That is what I was taught as a child. I still try to live that way. I won’t become a Karen. There is no real excuse for them.
A little different becomes extreme different with bullying.
I never thought I would listen to a video on a serial murderer and feel this awful for him. That bullying he endured in school was horrible.
I think the idea that a personality disorder can’t show up later in life to be out of line with reality. Trauma can happen at any time in a person’s life, and can have a profound effect on behaviour and in turn, personality. Neurplasticity is not limited to children.
Dr. Todd is so entertaining I bought a new brand of popcorn. He is also so therapeutic I managed to turn a spotlight on some of my local bullies. I love to garden and clean my yard so now I can much better. I’ve made a broader range of people aware of how abused women who live close by me are also. Abusers do it a little at a time - more and more each day. Like parasites grow.
I am very careful what i post as he might start doing his mind dissect on me....If you know what I mean.
Yeah, these people with parasitic lifestyles will test you little by little to see what they can get away with. If you don't nip it in the bud right from the start, you can find yourself in a place you never wanted to be in.
Living in a society where you are unsure if trusting more a police officer or a serial killer’s word scares me a bit.
Excellent analysis! Thank you! The length of Dr. Grande's videos is always perfect for my 20-minute commute, too!
Mermaid Mansion - I also like to listen to him while driving. He has a podcast as well.
Mermaid Mansion - Here is the link:
truecrimepsychologyandpersonality.podbean.com/ it's called True Crime Psychology and Personality by Dr. Todd Grande.
@@rejaneoliveira5019 oh really!!!!! I did not know that!! Thank you!!
Mermaid Mansion - You are welcome:) Enjoy!
For some reason, much like Dahmer, Rifkin seems to be a likeable guy. This is only a facade but even someone who can kill countless times may have an appealing presence to them, which is scary and fascinating.
It is scary. That's why I always thought that Amanda Knox quote about "either I'm a psychopath in sheep's clothing or I'm you" to be a little nonsensical. It implies that you can identify a "psychopath" just by looking at them....which just isn't true.
It's scary. I would have trusted Ed Kemper if he approached me. Likeable guy - and absolutely twisted and cruel. I prefer when they are obviously creepy, which they often are. It makes me feel safe and like I can trust my own judgement.
He can compartmentalize. But I suspect we all not only must, but can. We just don't usually have to compartmentalize away anything near as nasty. But how many of us can be cruelly exploitive of our employees, sneakily duplicitous with our workmates or bosses, can humiliate or ignore our kids, mistreat or ignore our pets, or nag and diminish our partners, all while feeling we're nice people going about a normal day?
Most of them are just people with an addiction to killing at the end of the day. That's reductive of me but it paints the point that they're still human and thus relatable/likeable to some extent
Our class was big enough (about 500) to really not know anyone besides your own circle of friends. I was a shy kid, had family issues, but had creative outlets and a solid neighborhood of friends to fall back on. If he wanted help, we actually had a stellar human being as a social worker in EMHS at the time, she went above and beyond if you reached out to her. Not everyone does that, though. I stayed in touch with Joyce for years, but have to wonder what she thought of all this when it happened. I know she is an artist in the Hamptons now, so maybe that says it all!!
I just feel bad for other people named Joel Rifkin, especially if their names are called over a PA system at a sporting event.
They all should change their names to O.J.🤣
“Will Mr Ted Bundy please pick up a white courtesy phone? Mr Ted Bundy.”
There used to be a former NFL player named Geor** F**y*.
Good morning! Im so glad to start my morning with you Dr!! Thats from the heart.
another facinating video, doctor...if you ever run out of personality disorders, and the people that have them, you could head down to the comment sections and make a part 2 for some vids by answering our questions, and maybe adding any info you had previously cut for time...just a thought. people are a lot more likely to engage with the content when the channel-face engages back.
Been waiting for you to do Rifkin for a while! Thanks!
Comment 67: All I can do is congratulate Dr.Grande on the insight, the need for supervision in any life and the need for accountability, which would have prevented rumination on the topic of evil. As a late comment on yesterday’s video on Mechele, the guys needed to have remembered that their biggest error was to share a love interest. Great analysis Dr. Grande. Thankyou 😀😄👍
Joel Rifkin :: Seinfeld connection most likely because of the location - New York and the time frame - early 90s.
"Do I need a lawyer"?
Yeah,... probably seventeen 😨 😁.
Thank you Dr. Grande 😃🇳🇱
pocoeagle2 Good one!👍🏼😂
I remember that Seinfeld episode 😂👍
I don't care😂👍
At the Giants game
@@iwannhsss1435 I dont care if you care 😁🤗😜👍👍
Change your name
OJ Rifkin
Love you dr grande. And your sense of humor is really good. And your analysis is spot on.
It's actually funny to me, Todd, that you brought up the whole 'having the same name as a serial killer' thing because I can remember that at a previous office job I had before going back to college, we had a partnership with a company and my main source of contact was with one Richard Ramirez. When I first saw his email and the signature underneath, I remember looking around to my coworkers who also got it and said something like "Dude, can you believe this is his name?". Turns out they don't study crime history, so the whole thing wasn't appreciated enough. This video fixed that! Good stuff man!
I have a question, Dr Grande. It's my understanding that Joel Rifkin would later on, after he was apprehended, express remorse for the killings. Do you think he was sincere about that? Or possibly a better question would be do you think he is capable of feeling remorse.
I could not finish listening to this, the bullying is heartbreaking, no child should be exposed to this.....adults in positions of authority and allow this to go on in schools should all be made accountable as to why they allow this to go on every day in thousands of schools, disgusting lack of responsibility to vulnerable children!
Some level of bullying should be illegal and criminal. Prison time for ... of a minor.
Driving a truck without a front license plate. Reminds me of my insurance man's advice to his highschool kids. If you are going to break one law don't break two.
Would it be possible for you to do a video like this on guys from the Wild West? Say doc holiday, Jesse James, billy the kid, wild bill, etc.
Lane Zuspan YES
You should one on Epstein & Weinstein...
Love the handle!😁
I don't know that these guys would be a challenge to analyze. They are so common.
Many many thanks for excellent analysis and demonstration of symptoms off abstract definitions.
I wonder how Rifkin would have turned out without the dyslexia, physical dysfunction, and non-stop bullying. Thank you for your take, Dr. Grande.
You would've never heard of him.
What about the callous disregard for human life?
I love your voice and wisdom.
John Wayne Gacy went to his own lawyer and told him about the bodies under his house and then he said he had to get back to work. I do not see a Dr. Grande John Wayne Gacy video. I would be curious to see that.
Dr. Grande please do a bit on the psychology of the elites in general & the ones who come from that background who turn out pretty emotionally well balanced or turn out sociopathic, psychotic or neurotic It's truly a fascinating subject. I'm most interested in the juxtaposition of the the lower classes seemingly becoming a bit more aware & empathetic in most social structures versus the contempt of the poor & general disdain of humanity within the upper echelons as compared to times past. The disparity send to be heightened these days because of internet social media.
I realize it's not a hard and fast rule, & case studies are found on both ends of the spectrum. (The Johnson & Johnson family comes to mind, Royal families, etc... It's interesting nonetheless.
You might enjoy the book The Vice of Kings
I'm tired of how there's absolutely no accountability for bullying, despite the fact we see so many devastating affects (shootings, suicides, criminal behavior, ect). The people responsible for the bullying just go on about their lives while their victims start to take it out on others.
Great channel, i enjoy your videos. They make quarantine a little bit easier. Thank you for that! 😳👍
"A very unusual choice of weapon for this first murder" :)
What is interesting about Joel Rifkin that is rarely brought up is the fact that he worked as a landscaper, he worked as a landscaper for a Mr. William Casey and his wife Sophia. William Casey was the director of the CIA from 1981-1987.
How did CZcams know to recommend this video right after I got done watching the Seinfeld episode where Elaine was dating a man named Joel Rifkin? I didn't even watch the ep on CZcams
Very interesting.
Thank you.
Hi Dr Grande .. can you please do an episode comparing the personality and mental factors between seriel killers who kill adults and the ones they kill children.
I was fat, ginger and had glasses in school and I didn't even go through as harsh a level of cruelty from other students. Obviously it's no excuse but I feel bad for young rifkin 😔
Uh boy!! This is hitting close to home for me as he murdered my friend (we became friends at 13) Mary Ellen DeLuca. I just spoke to her 2 weeks before(she was working in a Pizzeria). You can imagine my surprise when on the front page of the very newspaper I was going to buy with my morning coffee and newspaper--her photo was right there on the front page. What's amazing is..noone ever knew of her double life. I'm going to refrain from commenting any further. Thank you for your insight Dr. Grande.
Wow, I've been watching things on Rifkin all day yesterday, then I wake up to this. Dr. Grande, are you a mind reader? Haha thanks again for this absolutely awesome content. You rock!
"I am not diagnosing anybody - just speculating".👍👍👍
Hello Dr. Grande!
Hope u are doing well.
I wanted to share something.
My father is a surgeon and whenever I had aches or pains, he immediately asked for a lot of tests, x-rays and sonars.
Because he was always around the worst cases, he always expected the worst.
I simple stomach ache would make him suspect surgery.
I don’t know how you sleep at night after analyzing these crimes.
Too much focus on the bad.
How do you return to a state of neutral.
How can you remain balanced?
I sense you have high empathy.
It must be very hard for you.
How can you remain calm?
Could you tell us your secret?
Lama El charif - That’s a great question 😄. Dr. Grande made a video on the occasion of him reaching 200k subs, in that he describes how he regulates his emotions. Here is the link:
czcams.com/video/4vXBy77lWPk/video.html
Please do a case analysis on Ian Watkins (The absolute monster from Lost Prophets). I'd love to hear some insight from you on this horrible creature.
Both Joel Rifkin and David Berkowitz were adopted. It seems to me there is a higher level of adopted people among criminals than in the general population. What are your thoughts on adoptive child syndrome and/or the effects of adoption on the psyche that might lead to criminality?
one has to wonder where foster children come from? It's justified to assume that they mostly come from dysfunctional families, which, in turn, have higher levels of antisocial traits (not necessarily psychopathy). And this is only the genetic component of the link between adoption and criminality.
Elaine: "Little Stewart Rifkin wants to go shopping with his mommy!" 😆
Hi Dr. Grande! Would you please cover the Pamela Smart case? The case that started my true crime addiction. Why do you think she still won't admit to any crime after 30 years in prison? Thank you for taking the time to do these great videos!! I love your channel🤗
"To Die For" is a good movie based
that case; starring Nicole Kidman as Pamela Smart. Based on a book by Joyce Maynard.
Barbara Mann - Dr. Grande also has a podcast on True Crime.
Barbara Mann - truecrimepsychologyandpersonality.podbean.com/ it's called True Crime Psychology and Personality by Dr. Todd Grande.
@@rejaneoliveira5019 I will definitely check it out! Thank you!!
@@rejaneoliveira5019 Waaaat? How is this the first I'm hearing of it?? Thanks for the info!
Both Ted Bundy and Andreas Baader were also apprehended at traffic stops.
Alexander Meneikis and David Berkowitz, Son of Sam, was ticketed for illegal parking in the area where one of the murders was committed.
Yeah, we need cops.
Jesus, it’s frightening how literally everyone is capable of murder, it’s such a weird thing, why on earth would someone WANT to take a life? What joy could you possibly get from it?
Thank you once again .
That is alot of fine details
Always enjoy your videos. Watching from Nairobi. Very informative. Keep up the good work Dr. Grande.
They specifically used the name Joel Rifkin because Sienfeld show was in NewYork city.
I thought of "Elaine" as soon as i saw the title! 😄
I think this is a very solid course for your channel, Dr. Grande. These profiles are definitely the most in depth and thoughtful of any I've seen of these major criminals.
Thanks for the analysis! Didn't even know about this guy. I guess I don't watch enough Seinfeld lol.
Could you square the high psychopathic traits of some serial killers (e.g. Rifkin and Bundy) with their history of shyness and apparent social anxiety? Primary psychopathy in particular involves callousness, which would explain how they're able to do such horrible and disgusting acts - and do them very brazenly in Ted's case. It's thought to be a result of abnormalities in the fear center of the brain. But how would an individual like this develop social anxiety? I've heard the argument in the Quora community that Bundy couldn't have been a primary psychopath because he was shy and withdrawn as a child. Of course, I take that with a grain of salt because Quora, but I still wonder how it happens.
Haven't psychopaths got an issue with the amygdala? It's just not as active or something?
@@reswobiandreaming3644 Yeah, they have reduced activity in the midcingulate cortex, and they tend to work around that by using logic-based reasoning to understand others' emotional states. If you check out Dr. James Fallon, he explains it in an interview.
There are some other abnormalities as well. Psychopath brains are just weird, lol. If you've ever talked with one at length, you can tell in their mannerisms.
Thanks. I'll look that guy up. What are these mannerisms of psychopaths that you have observed?
@@reswobiandreaming3644 Disclaimer firstly: This is only my observation, and I have no idea if there is any scientific backing to it, lol.
But basically, they seem unusually calm regardless of the circumstances. They almost seem like they're in a trance, but they're still alert and aware of their surroundings. Also tends to be more noticeable if they're in a situation that would make most people emotional. The other usual tell is when they get "duping delight." They'll lean forward, their pupils will dilate and they get a half smirk. It seems almost predatory, and I think they're anticipating a dopamine rush. That's one of the other brain abnormalities: they get a dopamine increase about 4 times above normal when engaging in rewarding activities.
@@delightoftheendless6929 That's extremely interesting. I'm wondering if you can help me with a puzzle I'm working on. Do you know anything about how the autistic brain functions? I think your high functioning autistic displays everything you've observed but not the "duper's delight." Am I on the right track?
I loved your analysis. Narcistic traces. Thank you.
Come to think of it, a lot of serial killers seem to get caught due to traffic violations. I’ll try and remember that next time I get pulled over. 😂
Ugh....you wonder if he wasn't bullied as a child if he would of taken a different path in life?
How many lives could of been saved had his bullying and isolation been addressed.
Great video, as usual. 👍🏼💖 I’m wondering if you could comment on the appropriate actions or involvement an outsider could/should take when we see bullying happening. I mean maybe it’s common sense, but in certain situations, I sometimes question whether I should do more or whether I should just back off and “let kids be kids”. 🤷🏼♀️😜
Do more. 😏
I can't help but feel bad for Joel Rifkin. I know he turned out to be a monster but so were the kids he went to school with. Every single one of them had a hand in making him who he was
Name names if you know who the bullys were!
It scares me how much similarities some of the people I interact with have with serial killers, based on interviews with those serial killers I see on CZcams.
“203 years to life” caught me off guard 🤣
Great video. Something I would love for you to talk about, is random untrained people offering counselling on social media platforms during the coronavirus. There’s people out there trying to be heroes but instead of sending people to a therapist they offer therapy based on their experience of living with a person who has mental illness.
Can you do an analysis of Ed Gein's psychology? He liked to turn people into furniture.
His life inspired movies like Psycho and Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Supertramp: And then your wife seems to think
you're part of the furniture.
Ed Gein: Oh but the tables have turned...........No pun intended.
Ok, this was a much better episode than your episode on Long Island Serial Killer. If I remember correctly, Rifkin went on to fantasize when he was in his early teens. From your video one would get a picture that this fantasizing started when he was in high school... Rifkin was diagnosed with the schizoid personality disorder and I believe that this was the correct one for him...
Good analysis. Im particularly glad about a detail on the role of bullying. Its a preventable problem to a lagèe degree.. parents get involved with school and neighborhood Anti bullying program today.......but not enough.
I wasbullied much as a child it makes you isolayed. When people try and be your friend the bullies come after them. The stretch of beach where i grew up was unsupervised and groups of 6-10 years olds would yang out and fights would start. The kode would stand around and just watching. It was always some bigger kode nearing on a smaller one.
Good to menyion Joel Rifkinsufferedfrom depression. Father than mere therapy and Anti depressants Joel decided to actually do something. So he stated a charity to get women out of prostitution. Him being the head of it was of course an issue. But Joel claimed he felt better about himself for the endeavor.
Thats important for psychiatry. Creating karma where youve errored. It does effect the mind
The Ice Man (New York mob killer) would be a very interesting person to discuss.
He has. There is a video on him by the dr
interesting video thank you. there are two interesting serial killer-like parallels: like Son of Sam he was adopted and like Rodney Alcala, he also appeared on TV in a Seinfeld episode.
It’s crazy to hear what was going on when I was living in my teenager bubble from
‘89 (14 years old) - ‘93 (18 & the year I graduated from H.S.).
Dr., you delivered those lines about changing your name as well as a standup comic. was cracking up
Wow...I’d almost forgotten bout this guy! Awesome video on Rifkin👍🏼 thanx..I enjoy all ur videos I’ve watched👏🏼
Am I crazy for thinking that the bullies in such a case should get some sort of punishment too? Who knows if just watching it from a distance has the right impact, or if they just go "lol, I knew he was weird smh". Nah fam. Your bullying most likely costed a lot of people their lives later on. Like yeah, he was predisposed for these personality traits but as you point out, he did nothing wrong as a child. His mental health didn't have to take that turn.
Have you done the Luka Magnotta case? I just watched the Don’t F%4k with Cats on Netflix. I’d like to know your opinion on the case.
Do the bullies ever feel guilt or responsibility? They seem to torture people and then go about their lives without looking back at the devastation they have caused.
Bundy and Berkowitz were also caught by traffic violations.
It so interesting how much pop culture influences us. My first thought when I saw your video was oh Elaines BF lol. I really didn’t know much about the info surrounding his crimes though and that was eye opening. Great video and made me laugh
Joel-Peter Witkin is an artist, and his name sounds a lot like Joel Rifkin, at least in my mind, and so it's annoying because sometimes I can't think of Joel-Peter Witkin, and all I get when I search my brain is Joel Rifkin.
Lol same
I recall seeing bits of an interview or two where he seemed like an affable & agreeable sort. It's too bad he never got the recognition as a child that he deserved. It might have put him on a more purposeful & fulfilling track in life.
WHY weren’t the parents more involved in his life? Why don’t parents help their kids through bullying issues, take them out of that school or just spend more time with their kids at home. If their son is being bullied, why didn’t they spend time with him instead of him being alone in his room all the time??? I get so mad at parents....So sad!!!
they probably didn't know and he probably did not tell them cause he was ashamed.