James Holmes | Mental Health & Personality | What is Schizotypal Personality?
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- This video answers the questions: Can I analyze the mental health and personality characteristics of James Holmes?
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Schizotypal Personality Disorder
1. ideas of reference
2. odd beliefs and magical thinking
3. unusual perceptual experiences
4. odd thinking and speech
5. paranoia
6. inappropriate or constricted affect
7. behavior or appearance that is odd, eccentric, or peculiar
8. lack of close friends
9. excessive social anxiety that tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative self judgment
Schizophrenia
1. Delusions
2. Hallucinations
3. Disorganized speech
4. Grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior
5. Negative symptoms like diminished emotional expression or avolition
American Psychiatric Association. (2013). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (5th ed.). Arlington, VA: Author.
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I would like a video on a psychological evaluation of the type of women that send love letters to guys like this.
That's a good one.👍
He did a video on this topic. Here is the link: czcams.com/video/-LTuvDTAHmQ/video.html
I worked with one. She found a similar community of people on tumbler and they all travelled to the states for his trial.
Yes!
james burns that’s crazy. I can’t even imagine being one of the victim’s parents and seeing a bunch of strangers show up to testify against you in court after your child just got murdered...
How does he manage to look completely different in every photo. He never looks the same
Bec SocSci: Ted Bundy apparently had the same ability. Weird.
lol i was wondering the same thing
That's just the way the establishment photoshop artist do it for these false flag operations. They get a kick out of letting you know it's all BS without actually coming out and saying it. They are mocking the public. All of these ficticious false flag perpetrators are photo shopped to look crazy, ominous, or some even cartoonish.
@@imnotabotrlyimnot sooo you're saying the shooting in colorado by this dude was fake??
@@blackreign673 In the sense that the story the news agencies report to the public is false, then yes. That's not to say, there wasn't any actual violence, may have been.
Holmes' insanity is so visible in his eyes during the photos. I feel bad for his victims, condolences to their families. RIP.
I was kicked out of the military for having schizoid, schizotypal personality disorder, and a dysthymic disorder, but no one ever told me what all that means.
Wow, I'm sorry no one explained the diagnoses they came up with for you. That may have been really helpful at the time. Hope you're doing well now.
How are you going Kaos ?
Don't believe you. The military is through. You were explained the process and why you were booted.
Schizoid is that you have a lack of motivation to do anything and have nearly inexistant interest in people, you also have a flat affect, don't react or barely to provocation.
Schizotypal is associated with magic thinking, psychosis and also low interest for people and weird emotional reactions. And dysthymia is just depression IIRC
The thing with schizo- disorders is that none of them is clearly defined. My first psychiatrist thought I was schizophrenic at first, another thought I was schizotypal, the neurologist working with him thought I was schizoaffective for some reason but I understand it's not her job to decide that, my current psychiatrist just added "psychotic traits".
I've never suffered from psychosis so far 🙄
It can also literally just be autism. Autism gets misdiagnosed as schizo disorders because they share the features of flat affect and limited interest for social interactions and repetitive behaviors do exist in schizophrenia too sometimes.
I was personally disappointed that they'd be so quick to diagnose psychosis on me and seemed to think it's a waste of time to get screened for autism...
But also, if I get diagnosed as autistic, it can also be a misdiagnosis of a psychotic disorder so maybe it actually is a waste of time. I don't think I care anymore. It's exhausting and the meds have no positive effects on me and I can't deal with psychologists anymore. I'll still try to get proper treatment for my anxiety and stuff like that, try rTMS, but I think I'm about done with the whole thing. I just want to be left alone while not suffering from poverty (a compromise society is not willing to make).
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My best friend of many years has schizotypal personality disorder. It's under control as he takes antipsychotics. When he misses a dose he completely loses all sense of reality and it's really difficult to communicate rationally with him.
He's one of the most funny and interesting people I have ever met but he can't really live a productive life. He lives with his mother and he collects disability. His intelligence I would say is above average and he's very switched on but his anxiety and paranoia is always there stopping him from doing things.
Thanks for this positive comment about your friend. This guy’s videos seem incredibly negative towards schizotypal people but your comment made me feel better and seen
I think mental illness can be very hard on the people around the person who has it, sadly.
@Stephanie Campbell Probably because they think the person is interesting and they get along. I'd rather hang with someone like that instead of the same boring, dull people I see everyday.
@Stephanie Campbell He was my sister's friend. She didn't know he had it, & he stayed away from her when he suffered most; so he wouldn't alienate her. He confided in me.
One of the sweetest, smartest, and funniest people I have ever known was a roommate and “leader” in our social group in the early 90’s ended up losing complete contact with reality and was diagnosed with schizophrenia around the age of 20
Heartbreaking
I graduated with him at Westview highschool 2005 in San Diego CA. He grew up in Rancho Penasquitos and took mostly AP classes. I can't believe he did this.
I dont think he did. Classic false flag scenario
@@hemana3859 off your meds again?
@@aldxbaran lol. The reply of the clueless. You carry on sherlock. You got it all figured out. 😜
@@aldxbaran dude I don't even think it was a false flag but calling people who do in these days makes you sound like the crazy one.
you probably think there has Never been a false flag event hahaaha Rheeeetard go learn how to read some of the CIA documents that are now public maybe you will see how F up things really are
@@aldxbaran lol
This case always reminds me of a time in my life, when I went to high school and started taking psychology classes. At first I was very interested in psychology, but one day I went to the library and decided to read about schizophrenia. I took a book and started to read about the symptoms of schizophrenia, when I started to have severe anxiety about the topic. I tried to read more, but in the end I had to give up reading because I started to feel extremely anxious. My imagination was so wild, that when I read about the symptoms I started to wonder how it feels to hear voices etc. and that lead to a huge panic attack. For days afterwards I kept monitoring myself for symptoms of schizophrenia and even mixed my own thoughts as voices. I never read about schizophrenia again and my motivation towards psychology has never been the same. I realized that it was not good for me to think too much about topics like that and to be honest to this day I haven't really read too much about things like psychosis or schizophrenia. I wonder if something similar happened to Holmes, since he studied neuroscience. Maybe he was also an anxious person and it didn't do good for him to read about topics like that. Sometimes it is better not to know everything.
This sounds like the time when I was a little kid, thinking in the car as my mom was taking us somewhere. Suddenly I asked her if it’s possible to swallow your own tongue. I had to be left at her cousin’s house because I was suddenly afraid to swallow, fearing my tongue would fly down my throat if I did. Fortunately my fear only lasted a few hours, but I look back and roll my eyes at what a little weirdo I was.
This is really interesting. Forgive me for suggesting this, but do you think maybe you can sometimes be a bit of a hypochondriac? I say this because I can very much be one myself, and this sounds like something similar to things I do.
Psychology in high school? Nonetheless, I too am this way. I wanted to be an attorney but after hearing some of the horrific cases I had a panic attack for days. Same with mental health and animal cruelty and abuse. It’s very bad that I cannot even watch or hear a news story about any of these topics including brutal crimes. I was told I’m an empath and this is why.
@@UnityAgainstJewishEvilno. They’re probably an empath. Just like not everyone can stomach brain surgery, they can’t stomach mental health like this. That was rude of you to say. Not everyone can eat liver because we think it’s gross. That means I’m over reacting?! Cmon
Most people who've gone through narcissist abuse from a partner will tell you how psychologically difficult healing is in the stage of wondering if you're the one with NPD or bpd. I also had mentally ill friends use drama against me and tell me all these things about my psychological profile villainizing me only to apologize months later saying they didn't mean anything. Suffice to say I didn't finish the psychology degree I'd started before all this because it brought me back into obsessive introspection and self-analysis.
I’ve got a friend with the same disorder listen in the title. He is a genuine guy. Very flat emotionally. He doesn’t cry or feel sad ever about really anything. He is empathetic though because he asks me and my mutual friends how we’re doing and keeps check on us. He is completely against violence and thinks the world should get along, rather than be at arms with each other all the time. He is very funny and has grown a lot since I’ve helped him get out of his comfort zone. Took years to do it but now he’s quite the social person.
Call the other doctor. Dr Grande's burns are getting sicker every day.
So what you're trying to say is those chops are well done?....
Damn! That's a good one!
He just drops the pretenses when it comes to the blatant religious frauds.It's funnier when he tries harder to seem non judgemental.
No he's exceptionally gifted at explaining complicated medical jargon in layman's terms, which is maybe why the medical profession don't like him.
What is that supposed to mean-sideburns? If so - How insightful and interesting from so many impressive minds.
So I haven't watched this yet, will watch it now. But I just wanted to mention something funny that happened. I have been bingeing your videos over the last couple of days, on the TV in the lounge. My husband doesnt watch with but rather plays video games on his computer. Whilst watching a video you had a subtle little dry humor. My husband piped up out of nowhere "did he just make a joke??" Thanks for the videos. You are very endearing and your content is factual and informative.
I laughed in this video when he talked about him receiving additional 3000+ years sentence, he said "I don't think he'll need to take those Planning for Life After Release classes at the prison..."
Lol! I can relate 😂. I was binge watching these a couple of weeks ago, actually lost sleep over it😂
😂
Love when Dr Grande drops in a sneaky dry joke
Husband is listening after all! :))))
Thought this channel would be boring, but after giving it a chance, it’s extremely elucidating in reference to all the true crime series I watch. So thank you for your work and contributions. Exceptionally well done 💯
Dr. Grande is amazing 💕🌵🏜
My cousin was shot multiple times by this guy. He survived because a teenager used her belt and made a tourniquet on his thigh.
“Which probably means he is exempt from the planning for life after release classes offered at the prison” 🔥🤣
He was a PhD student isolated at his University, and some claim he met someone who befriended him, then vanished after the attack.
The Colorado "shooter" did a lot of damage for one college student on drugs. He was so looped in the car that they could not take a mug shot until the next day.
@@LulabellaDonna was he not sober during this, but just psychotic?
@@mikiharkin3539 One person could not have done that "job" perhaps he was set up, ever consider that? Do you know who his Father is?
@@LulabellaDonna
He set it up and was right there doing it, so no, that's not possible.
I’ve struggled years with depression, anxiety and panic attacks. Over the years I’ve gone from an extrovert to an introvert. I don’t particularly care for the company of people. I know this guy had serious problems, but I’ve never understood how people become so violent and completely detached from humanity.
Another well prepared comprehensive video by Dr. Grande. Thank you.
Always the contradictions though yhat not resolved: if other people are worthless and can be killed then we. too are worthless and not needed to be alive. But since the focus is always on others this thinking would be hard to come by.
@@vjhardy100 True.
@@vjhardy100 It's not as simple as someone casually pondering the value and meaning of life. James Holmes seemed to have been debating this topic with himself for most of his life, which all led up to what happened. Sometimes I wonder if people say "I can't understand" but what the really mean is, "I don't want to understand." It's understandable to be afraid of this dark truth, to be afraid of empathizing with it and understanding it but that's the only way to move forward; that's kinda the point of psychology.
@@vanillaketamine6060 casually pondering? Pondering by implication is deep n serious. And I never said anything about ' not understand '. Just pointing a contradiction on a line of thought. And a simple generalisation-- if one life is worthy, every life is worthy. There's a contradiction when we point at someone else as worthless forgetting that three fingers point at ourselves.
I agree though that this lack of reflection is what makes it a psychological issue.
Hey I know this is an old comment, but have you checked out MBTI tests? It's Myers Briggs types. This tests helps you understand and learm your own personality better. It's legit. The CIA uses it to quickly assess how to communicate with new assets in the field. So basically everyone has a few different personality traits, and your balance of these traits can help you best express yourself with your own personality. For example some people are extroverted while some are introverted. This does not have anything to do with depression. Some of the happiest people are introverted. It just means they recharge their social energy while alone. Other traits are things like if you use thinking or feeling as your main type of information processing. For example: my type is INTP. This means I'm Introverted-Intuitive-Thinking-Percieving. Those are my major traits you would encounter if you interacted with me, it's how I interact with the world. Now sometimes if an extrovert is depressed they can feel more introverted. Oddly for them the cure is to go into public because extroverts charge energy in crowds. I know this all sounds crazy but please look into it. There are 16 types of personalities, and if you take the test and answer HONESTLY you can get to know your type and how to it can help you in this world. In psychology college courses they have moved to a new more nuanced type of test, but for beginners I recommend you start with MBTI. The tests are free online and take 30 mins
I am a retired psychiatric nurse with experience as the psych nurse for the mental health department of two large jails. I noticed that Adam Lanza and James Homes have nearly an exact match of the eye expression. I have not noticed that in other high profile killers. However, over the years of working in jails, I have seen four or five patients with this same stare....a sort of "look that cannot be denied." All of those patients were convicted of their crimes and had life without parole sentences. I wonder if this expression is rare, or common. Most of the mentally inmates that the mental health department treated and guided toward long term commitment were very sick patients. I know that last reference may seem odd, but, indeed, some patients are much sicker than others and the price to themselves and society is profound. Can Dr. Grande expand on that appearance?
Excellent presentation on James Holmes.
Look into mkultra.
I agree. Holmes and Lanza remind me very much of each other.
I was always taught the same as your assessment. That schizotypal personality disorder can be premorbid to schizophrenia. I had also wondered if his being let go from grad school was significant, in that his routine was lost and potentially the student health center was less available. It sounds like this was not the issue but that he could spend all of his time planning his crime. Great analysis.
Fascinating that a kid whose motivation for doing his homework was to avoid attention, ends up committing mass murder.
I was a sacred little kid who hid under desks and in closet in kindgergarden and did his homework dilligently, by grade four I was diagnosed with conduct disorder and was suspended for the first of probably 50 times by high school's end. All it took was appreciating that for the few hours I was not at home I was basically as free as I wanted to be, any consequences came much later and was worth the trade off for the fun. Cuz home was no fun either way.
Well, consider that the doctor states that this was the opinion of his college teachers, who are all a bunch of fukin' educated elitist idiots anyway, as far as I'm concerned. I give absolutely no credence to the casual observance of detached, anti-social-prone, elitist intellectuals, who likely share some of the same mental defects that Holmes suffers from.
It's definitely hard in situations like that, when a young child shows excessive attention to something like schoolwork, it could be religion or some other Noble virtue. So.etimes it's for the right reasons but sometimes that child is using it as a defense.
'@@jaelge Ah yes, because implying that people have mental defects because of your own weird bias against educated/intellectuals is 100% very totally much more big credible and not ableist at all. I mean, I agree that the college assessment was off, but that's a weird overreaction that comes off as a major projection. js.
It's as if he assumed "another version" of himself before committing the mass murder; a one who's able to stand out and get attention. Even his choice of hair dye, a bright orange, during that time probably made him stand out in a grocery store etc. It's as if dying his hair was a step towards this new version.
I’ve met two people with low empathy that seemed to have concrete thinking. They couldn’t understand analogies but were otherwise extremely intelligent and witty. This paradox is baffling to me.
The left brain can override everything else.
RE: Myself, I am medically rigid/reptilian if you so to speak but that is not my soul.
RE: My soul and body don't agree with each other.
observed and learned behaviors?
I had a colleague like this. Her humor was also concrete. I later decided she us somewhere on the autism spectrum. The lack of ability by a highly intelligent person to understand metaphor is a giveaway.
This shooting disturbed me more than any until the Sandy Hook shooting. I feel so bad for the victims and their families, and it's a shame that the killer wasnt helped or halted before he was homicidal. I was watching the same Batman film at a theater in a different state on the day this occurred approximately around the same time (I think, the timezone isnt the same and I dont really want to see any pictures by looking it up online). I remember coming out of the theater and finding out about this shooting and thinking that it just as well could have been someone in my area who walked into my theater, and I might be the victim. It was an unpleasant feeling of sympathy and empathy for the pain and death amplified by the coincidence. I wish the shooting never happened.
I am autistic and I take everything, everything literally. I have little to no ability to think abstractly. I have at least learned if someone tells me nonsense like the glass houses thing, to ask them what they mean.
I would love to be a student in one of your courses. I enjoy your presentation of information, and I very much appreciate your sense of humor. I hope your channel continues to explode in popularity!
What's scary is that his doctors tried desperately to stop him and they couldn't do anything. So many people went after his doctor, but she did everything that she legally could do. I hope she got help for herself because I can't imagine how bad she feels about all of this.
@Enchanted Odds what does that have to do with my comment? You should also consider the fact that if he had been forced to get the help he needed those people would still be alive. Even if you don't care about the mentally ill you should care about what happens when they don't get adequate treatment. I want less victims and if that means that we have to pay for and force people into treatment I am okay with that.
@Enchanted Odds i know you think this is a cool, edgy take but its just gross
@Enchanted Odds do you have Schizotypal personality disorder?
@Enchanted Odds Too bad we can't eliminate your uneducated comments.
In the UK, all mental health doctors/councillors what have you, have a clause that you are told before they treat you, that if you are at risk of hurting yourself or others, they can do away with doctor-patient confidentiality. It seems crazy that thats not the standard everywhere.
This case is so interesting. I have just finished watching 8 hours of his psych report/interview and came here to see your evaluation of him. Good work 👏
Hey dude where can i watch the 8 hours of his psych interview?
@ChristopherFelicitas honestly I can't remember the channel but if you type in his name you will come across it
@@david8_0 Found it! Thanks man, the channel is Crime Vault for any people who want to see it in the future.
I found your channel a day ago and have been binge watching. Good stuff. Also, impressed that both your parents were clinical psychologists as well.
Don't know if you'll get this, as you wrote a year ago. The same has happened with me....I found Dr Grande last night and I've binge watched for 15 hours so far. I hope that's not a sign of some disorder! 😂
Sounds like they threw the whole DSM at him.😆
That happens a lot, unfortunately, with people that are hard to diagnose.... 😑
don’t go throwing DSM’s in glass houses lol. Sorry my humor isn’t nearly as good as Dr. Grande’s.
Heh heh heh . . . 😛
That’s funny 😂😂😂
On point! 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂
Parents often do not take into consideration 'social skills' when 'pushing' their children to succeed. They just see that their kid does well in school/or seems capable of working and they just push the kid in that direction in spite of clear signs that something is awry. I work with disabled kids and I come across these parents periodically. I've had two students this past year whose parents seem to know about the many 'social' barriers that their kids have but because both students completed their work and excelled in school-they dismissed the infantile social behaviors (not respecting 'average' social boundaries, in appropriate response to situations). These types of kids need constant and fast intervention-a behavioral coach, or job coach who works with them from the minute people notice these issues. And even then that doesn't always help a lot. For example-one of my student's would constantly invade people's space and when I mentioned this to the parent they said they had been working on that with a Behavioral Aide and that they had no issues at their volunteer site. I said-"He's still doing it quite a bit" and reminded parent that I only mention it because outside our 'protective' circle, in the real world, something like that could cause lots of problems for his child; thank God, he agreed.
I think his parents checked out. Because it was much easier to ignore his symptoms rather than actually finding help for him.
You are with the children as much if not more than the parent is. Your insight and recommendations should be used along with those of others who interact with the child.
@@cattycorner8 Agreed!
So true, this shallow means-to-a-financial-end approach to education and development will be the death of us in more ways than one
I think the hard thing for a lot of special needs parents is that despite their experience they're still not trained professionals. You might understand that your child has a medical or mental condition, but you don't have 8 years of collegiate training to understand that problem and how to treat it.
Love the Good Doctors videos. Not only are they interesting but they’re highly educational as well. Love his dry humour too. Great stuff!! 😀
This was incredibly informative, I'm doing a psychological autopsy on James Holmes as part of my degree in uni and your video is very helpful thank you! Also the burns were sick, you're wicked.
Such a fascinating and interesting case, but 12 people killed is a real tragedy.
Thank you for another excellent video, Dr. Grande 😃🇳🇱
James Holmes was not 'evil'. He was suffering from a mental dissorder.
Naw it’s more the length people will go through to to address these situations based off actual research of human psychology. So we understand and address this kind of shit better in the future. Evil is just a concept it’s not tangible, peoples brains being broken is something we know is real. It’s not an excuse for said behavior it’s just the facts
Old Iron. No. But after watching 15 hours of interviews ordered and released by the court in order to determine his mental health I at least understand the context.
Julian Sykes EXACTLY
"People who live in glass houses, are ill advised to project stones" 🤣
I'm going to start saying it this way from now on lol
LOVE IT!!!
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As usual, your breakdown was articulated extremely well. Thanks.
"Why do people need to be alive in the first place?" Sent chills through my spine. My mom died last year and I'm still fucked up. I think this too but whenever I do it makes me cry, not want to hurt people.
You are perfectly normal. I am sorry you lost your mother. Mine passed away very unexpectedly. I kept her voice mails to me for a year after.
I understand very much how you feel and the deep dread and despair around losing someone so close. I sometimes find myself asking why we have sentient life, as it seems almost like a cruel trick. But reality is what it is and we cant fight the natural order of things.
I was wondering if you could talk about how poverty effects mental health? I am a psychology and social work student, so it would be interesting to learn how people who live in poverty have their mental affected by those circumstances.
Yes!! Please do this
It has a direct impact. Huge.
Not to mention generational trauma due to institutional oppression.
Consciousness is determined by material being and surroundings to a large extent.
Yes I’d love to hear more about this as well!
“Which probably means he’s exempt from planning for life after life release classes.”
The fact that Dr. Grand can say that with a straight face makes this even funnier.
Please notice the cut immediately following that statement. Maybe he laughed?
@Quiche Lorraine 00⁰0000000000
holy crap how many comments are on here with people quoting this line and saying how god damn hilarious it is?!?!?
no seriously how many? i am bad at counting.
What?
hey mr.peanutbutter!!
i love someone who i believe leans quite closely towards this cluster of personality deviations, maybe closer to schizoid, and i now have a much fuller appreciation for the effort he took to provide adequate attention and affection, considering the high level of avolition. my acceptance and understanding is higher than usual for these behaviors, and i think it could have worked wonderfully but i’m on the borderline spectrum and you can imagine how traumatizing splitting would be for someone who is potentially schizoid. i’m devastated by the loss. the entire dynamic still fascinates me, and i love the depth with which you explore all of these disorders.
I’m glad I’ve found your channel, I appreciate you’re insight!
I want Dr. Grande to do an analysis video on Dr. Grande.
Not cool for him, I mean it'd be interesting yeah but... not cool at all. Uhm also, just take a look at his icon for the channel... It's his face eh
He's just as weird as many of his subjects...
No
A man of science with a dry sense of humour. Marry me dr Grande!!
cbsg5861 hey, there’s a queue here! 😁
Ba ha ha
Lol
Haha cute. But he's married. To me.
no offense but i hope yall are in your mid 30‘s and not teenager that are fangirling.
Dr. Grande, your assessments and views/opinions , are of particular interest to me since my daughter graduated with her degree in psychology, what makes people tick, how they are wired, was it empirical? Nurture v nature, environmental factors? Fascinating and I believe it is correctly empowering the more we can understand our fellow human, thanks for always doing such a great clear and concise video, cheers !
Such a fascinating case, I love your videos Dr Grande, so great how you describe every detail of the crime in such a clear way, your the best 🥰
I’ve been waiting for this one. So clearly mentally ill. A tragic story indeed. Fascinating breakdown! Thanks again Dr. Grande!
I love being scientifically informed AND waiting for the next lil dry spoonful of Grande wit and humor.....it’s a WIN, WIN!
Fascinating commentary. Your analysis is always spot-on. 👌
It would be great to see a more in depth video about trichotillomania. It is something that I have developed a few years ago and there are not enough factual resources on it! Thank you as always for the amazing content :)
Disorder where you pull and fidget with your hair
Thanks Dr. Grande! Really curious about this idea of existential obsessions and OCD. Perhaps a future video?
THISSS^^
He has one already!:)
He did it before. Here is the link: czcams.com/video/Eg7HQ2_ESHI/video.html
Thanks for letting me know! I had a feeling I should have checked :)
jbr4gg - You are most welcome;) This video is great, enjoy!
Psychiatry is such a subjective science. It's amazing how little we really know about the human mind. It's sad that he began to lose himself at the age of 10. There being no trauma associated with his degeneration, one can only wonder if there is a physical or inherited cause
There are environmental and genetic causes for disorders. Some are more impacted from one than the other.
Nah....The only thing that's sad about this whole story ARE THE INNOCENT PEOPLE HE MURDERED & THE FAMILIES THAT STILL TO THIS DAY & WILL FOREVER HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS...There are millions of people all over the world that suffer as much & immensely greater than this POS..But they are not planning every detail of mass shooting people..!!!..Unbelievable...
Love your videos. Scientifically informative and reflective of your deep experience. Very different from the typical generic videos on CZcams. Keep the great work up Doc!
This is why bullying at school should be prohibited and anyone that violates that rule should be expelled
I lived in Denver when this happened, and remember hearing about it at work.
his eyes unnerve me. he looks haunted.
They look empty...similar to some other mass shooters, like the sandy hook shooter. It’s a blank, vacant stare and it gives me the chills every time I see it
CDO1113 Stephen Paddock had that stare
I know someone who was in the CU doctorate program when Holmes was there. She said he was beyond weird and gave her the creeps. He was very awkward socially and in the class, as Dr. Grande mentioned.
His expression seems similar to that of Adam Lanza.
@@jayneneewing2369 Both were on anti-depressants/psychotropic drugs. So was Eric Harris. Go figure.
I had trouble with public speaking in front of crowds so I made myself take speech 1 & 2 in college. I got an A in both and got over my fear of speaking in public
@@kurtlamprecht93 Hey man let him express his achievement
@@kurtlamprecht93 I bet you are dealing with social inadequacy hence your standoffishness and passive aggressiveness. I'd bet you may even relate to James Holmes in some ways. And that's absolutely okay! We all have a little social anxiety
@@kurtlamprecht93 no offense but I don't care what your perception of what okay is
I took one speech class, and I have severe anxiety too, unfortunately it didn’t help me. After the class was done, the teacher offered remarks and comments to each student aloud, and I still remember what he told me because I thought it was odd, and it was also said in front of everyone which made me uncomfortable because I felt like I was outed out. He said that as soon as I went up there it’s like I would flip a switch. I rarely interacted with people in class, because I was always anxious, and I never did quite enjoy talking to people. I still don’t, but I care deeply for others, and I wish I had the ability to be myself around others.
Dr. Grande:
Good video. I love the humor that you slip in and no wave but steady. That's good stuff. Smarts are intriguing (yours).
I’d love to see a video regarding the idea that children of psychologists have more issues. Or if there’s is any truth in it because I’ve heard this a lot.
It’s the psychologist that are crazy
Psychologists aren't known for their own self reflection.
The thing I’ve noticed about therapists is they don’t tend to judge any behavior as bad. I understand the approach and theory of this approach, but it seems we have 50 years of data that states the approach is a failure.
I have only known one child of a psychologist....well, both parents were psychologists. He was kicked out of college his Freshman year due to psychiatric instability. I remember there being lots of drugs, broken glass and terrifying pictures/journal entries. It is my only data point though.
Interesting...
Perhaps he thought graduate school and his studies would replace his homicidal ideations with other thoughts.
@@peacenpowder I hear that's why a lot of people enrol in psychology courses too.
He was looking for concrete answers to his social and psychological problems in science. But if he can't grasp basic metaphors he dove head first into mind body problems which takes up most of philosophy religion psychology some neuroscience etc. You can't get more abstract except maybe advanced physics. However James Fallon is a famous neuroscientist studying psychopathy who found out from a head scan he had a brain feutures typical of psychopaths. So sometimes people do find answers in a way.
@@peacenpowder Well, of course he did. Did you really need the interview to figure that out?
The dude was surrendering the happiness of his own life so that he could pursue a very specific quandary relating to the human condition; is there a good reason _any where_ for _any circumstances_ that humanity deserves to continue as a species? Personally, I find the conclusion he came to more revolting than the next desperate step Holmes took to broaden his search for meaning in life. That Dr. Goofballs up here finds that to be a joke rather than a treatable condition kind of proves Holmes' point that (in the field of neuroscience anyways) his peers are pathetically unqualified to be poking around in other people's heads like they have any idea of what makes life valuable, let alone communicating that wisdom to the rest of civilization outside of their offices, where they can lean back and admire their decorative plaques, honoring how fucking smart they are for figuring out how to pass some classes that don't teach psychologists how to treat for _"How do I stop wanting to fucking *kill everyone I meet?*"_ God damn, Holmes would have better off getting into narcotics, because at least down that career path, street folk call each other "fam" and mean it.
But whatever. I already knew that the education system in the U.S. is in total freefall at this point. Have they stopped teaching about Nietzsche's perspective on religion, yet? Any ambitious psyche course students want to comment on that?
@@peacenpowder I find it really sad - he was aware of his dangerous thoughts ! Maybe a treatment could have helped.
@@belliotrungy9107 I was thinking maybe he found something about neuroscience that sent him over the edge, going into an abyss of strange drugs and basically formatting his brain from being able to form rational thoughts. Wouldn't surprise me if he had an informant-like character to drive him in the direction he went.
Wow you blew my mind on this one. Good job my friend
This took me back to med school. Interesting video. Enjoyed watching this
I saw this suggested yesterday, SO GLAD you chose this case. Thanks doc!
When I saw this in my feed I thought, "Wow, Dr. Grande is really fast on creating requested content!"
@@MasterMalrubius right? That was so quick!
James Holmes killed one of my friends from high school, AJ Boik. Thanks for the insightful analysis.
That definitely brings cases like this one much closer to home. I've lost loved ones tragically and know how painful it is and can't imagine how losing a goof friend or loved one to murder would feel. I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. Sending you best wishes, from Australia.
I’m so sorry
Sorry for the loss of your friend .
may your friend rest in peace, my condolences for your loss.
I'm so sorry sundog my cousin was supposed to be in that theater so now ever since then I can't look at the movie theater I walk pass it with my head down or I have to look at my phone cause I do not want to look at the movie theater my husband has to be on my left side when we go to the mall cause I have the shakes when I walk pass the movie theater
The antidepressant meds he was put on before the attack might have triggered bipolar mania, a mixed episode and/or a schizoaffective psychotic episode. Regardless of a diagnosis, I really think his doctor should also be accountable. She obviously screwed up in my opinion.
6:55 James was sentenced to 12 Life sentences without the possibility of parole plus 3,318 additional years. If he was Canadian, he'd have to do the full 25 years for sure.
Lmao if he was Canadian he would be out with a clean bill of health, name change with full anonymity, and put up in a place that tax payers pay for. He and Vince Li would be roommates. Our justice system is an absolute joke
I humbly implore you Dr. Grande to do an analysis of "The Girl in the Box case" the abduction and torture of Colleen Stan by Cameron and Janice Hooker. Easily each person would require their on video. Lastly I'd like to convey my appreciation for you spending your time and all that you've learned over your career to help better educate the people in this world. Your a top bloke Doc Grande.
You're* Dr Grande can you do a video on people who feel compelled to correct grammar errors.
@@dougrogan379 This!! Please!!
Ive heard of the case, and it literally makes my skin crawl. 😬
Is she the one who went to visit her family with her abductor and "voluntarily" went back into the box under his bed?
@@dougrogan379 You didn't have to take the time to correct my poor grammer but you did and for that my dear Baxter I commend you. Many are fearful to correct me as I'm a 13th degree blackbelt in origami and just the sight of me picking up a napkin is enough to send absolute terror and urine down the pants of people. You've earned my respect Mr. Stockman may you go forth and conquer all that's around you beautiful champion.
The details of his youth seem... very specific. How could his teachers know his reasoning for doing well in school??
I thought so too. It sounds like some kind of excuse.
Believe it or not there are such things as interrogation to funnily enough find information or answers to questions like that one
@@anniemargareth7617 ???
i also could't interpret the proverb untill you explained it.
I LOVED the mature,sophisticated,and professional way you said one of your other video subjects had appeared on the Phil mcgraw show.....i see you, captain. Cheers!! Lol
From my personal experiences with psychotic episodes, this honestly feels way too long term planned and organised to have been committed in the throes of a serous psychotic episode. He did target practice, adapted his plan when he had got the tickets wrong, bought the tickets in advance etc, I (in one of my most recent episodes) couldn’t get it together enough to even tie my shoes... I know it’s not the same, ore even similar for everyone, but it just doesn’t feel as if that frenzied state of mind is there.
I agree totally. Wellcsaid
Yes, he was certainly in his right mind enough to carry it all out!
So true. I made it to the comments section to say exactly this. Never really bought this dude was that psychotic. I mean he may have been a tad skizotypal but I feel like his dominant issue was darker, like psychopathy or sadism.
In complete agreement.Holmes wanted to kill as many people as he could get away with,never have to work again and be taken care of for the rest of his life. Mission accomplished. It makes me physically sick of our justice system.
That’s is why he was sentenced to mult life
Terms
I would love your analysis of the case of Mary Bell, and of the killing of James Bulger. In both cases the perpetrators were 10 years old, and killed toddlers. After their jail sentences they were given lifelong anonymity.
I understand the impulse toward that judicial call, but unless it goes along with a lifelong parole and therapeutic treatment requirement, I think it's extremely unwise.
TUCK - Hidden Values I feel it’s a correct call, particularly in the Jamie Bulger case. The two perpetrators would have gotten lynched, had they not been given new identities, such was the public outrage. This cannot be acceptable, even to people to are fundamentally in favour of capital punishment (which I am emphatically not). One of little Jamie’s murderers is back in jail for repeatedly being found in possession of child porn, so there clearly is some monitoring of their behaviour subsequent to release.
Mary Bell had the most awful childhood, being used as a sexual prop by her prostitute/dominatrix mother from the age of 4, if I remember correctly. While these children were murderers, they were also victims. They would absolutely have been murdered themselves, had their identities not been concealed, therefore turning somebody else into a murderer. Awful all around.
One child murderer was age 6. She got treatment and supposedly grew up to be an ok mother.
Wow, I had heard about this young man. I used to work in Aurora Colorado. I had moved to another state by the time this happened. I did not know he went through that much ammo, and injured/killed that many people. Thank God he didn’t know how to clear the MMP15. This young man needed help at an really age. There is no shame in asking for help, ever. RIP to all those people that were murdered. I hope the people that were involved in this tragic situation were able to speak with a therapist. What a horrible nightmare. Very interesting video Dr. Grande. Thank you for explaining this young man’s thinking/profile. When you mentioned schizophrenia, I once read where it could be genetic. Your videos always leave me with more questions to ponder. 😊👍.
To the point and fair on all perspectives, subscribed.
Just went to the theater and made a video about the event. It's sad that this happened. Even more sad that James never got the real help he needed and even worse that 12 people had to pay for it. RIP to the 12 victims
I watched the 25 hours interviews. Holy nail ghosts, I was sucked into the vortex that is James holmes. I was surprised to hear how his social anxiety was coped with by using homicidal thinking.
Hmm... I've done that? Wonder if a lot of people think thats bad...
@@abcdef-ze9hs you've had those thoughts? Or you watch hours of youtube? As far as being a bad thing for either on depends who you ask.
My whole life I’ve actually had a fear of being In movie theaters. I’ve always thought someone was going to come in and shoot it up. So when this happened it really really freaked me out. I don’t go to the movie theaters at all now because my anxiety disorder is just too severe
I like how this guy presents stuff. Solid work.
That little " life after prison" joke is proof that Dr. Todd Grande, is in fact, a little stinker........
Oh, he offers us plenty of proof of that in every video.... 😉
@@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098 I know the little rascal in him pops up every once in a while
....a big stinker imo. But often he tries to be kind.
@@Able_Hotel42 More lately, it seems. It's cracking me up.... ☻
Not diagnosing Dr. G- only speculating on what could be going on in a situation like his...
I remember watching James Holmes’ entire trial. It was sad and fascinating, there is a lot to learn about the law and about mental health from this case. Thanks for making this video!
Can you imagine how much you'd've learned from Eliot Rodger if he hadn't killed himself? Or any other killer?
@Takeshi Matimoto I’m not fascinated by the actual killing, for me it’s the whole legal aspect and how trials are conducted, but yes, I get your point!
Thank you once again Doctor Grande for some really interesting information on different individuals in your programs. I wish you would have been one of my university professors.
I lived a few miles north of Aurora, Co. in 2012. Holmes also cranked up the music in his booby trapped apartment with the intention of drawing neighbors, landlord, etc. to their deaths.
There he is. ..🙂 I agree with almost all reasoning you did in this vid. However, there are a few things, in which I think slightly different. Firstly, it was reported in our media, that he's a person suffering from schizophrenia, and I think this diagnosis is absolutely justifiable in his case. I never doubt this one single minute. This illness is a process - and of course it can start with what appears in younger years as a paranoid, schizoid or schizotypal personality disorder. Who is born with full blown schizophrenia?
Having catatonic states, his concrete thinking style that you mention when it comes to proverbs and his reluctance to share his inner world and all his other symptoms make him at least in my opinion a very classical schizophrenic person though. (When I saw his first picture, I actually thought that he suffers from Graves' ophthalmopathy, too. His eye problems are even more extreme than I remembered them, I refered exactly this picture that you showed at the very beginnning of the vid).
I disagree with two further statements of yours, firstly, that his thoughts about not feeling worthless when killing people, since their life makes no sense/has no aim in itself makes totally sense to me from a logical point of view. These thoughts are not in line with values that most people share, as well as I do, and esp. they contradict Christian values. However there is nothing inherently illogical in them imo (I would reason here, that his thoughts are so rational, that they actually become inhumane). I also can relate easily to his assumption the girls and women would like to meet him because of his profile on the dating page. Well, in a rational world, this would take place exactly like he assumes. Being somewhere in the realm of schizophrenia or the autism spectrum makes it hard to emphasize with other more common forms of human crazyness, who aren't in this realm. That these women might want to connect to him, because he is famous due to a capital crime he committed must have sound totally odd and irrational to him, I suppose.
I would part this from the horrible crime he committed. He is so obviously seriously mentally ill, and would be brought into a psychiatric facility for very long time here in Europe. I don't know what is better - a forensic psychiatric clinic or jail, and I don't envy people who had to decide one of this two fates for him. This is an extremely tragic story for all people involved. Thank you, doctor, for presenting this man in such a well thought through fashion. 💗
Hi, I know this is a year old comment, sorry, but I just wanted to acknowledge how insightful and thought-provoking it is. Thank you for choosing to share your perspective on it as it differs with Dr. Grande. I hope you’re doing well!
What an excellent, comprehensive examination of the many diagnoses that could be applied to this mass murderer! I love that you looked at many aspects of his development and socialization (or lack thereof) over the years. Thanks for continuing to provide concise, fascinating descriptions "of what could be going on" in the cases you address, Dr. Grande.
I remember the night this happened. I live in Colorado and a good friend of mine lived in Aurora at the time. I woke up a freaked out. Luckily she was visiting her parents in Michigan. Rest in Peace to those who passed away that night.
Out of all the killer cases, he should have been found not guilty by reason of insanity (but then ordered treated at a mental facility until cured - which he would never be). Giving someone over 3,000 years is crazy and that judge needs to be examined by professionals!
"He has thoughts of killing people, but I don't think hes dangerous"
Uhmm...what?
Typically people that say “thoughts of killing people” might be more full blown APDs and have other personality traits that are very different from James Holmes
We all have bad thoughts
Proof that nobody knows shit. They just guess.
Thing is, a lot of people have those types of fantasies, but nonetheless, that's not something to push aside, even if the individual would never hurt anyone.
it's human nature to think violent thoughts, none of us are little angels. they're called intrusive thoughts. they are thoughts, they are not concerning to psychologists/psychiatrists until you start telling them that you are indeed going to kill someone (or yourself) or you are planning to.
Please do Elliot Rodger next. He's already been discussed a lot but I'd like to hear your take especially in regards to vulnerable narcissism
TTC Doug there is enough YouToob content on the Supreme Gentleman.
@@seka1986 yeah but no one mentions the fact he had social anxiety disorder. It's mentioned in his manifesto but most people don't bring that up for why he couldn't introduce himself to women. most people just think he was too narcissistic to introduce himself and just sat around waiting for women to introduce themselves to him.
@@vice2versa but that's totally why it happened. Not saying he didn't have social anxiety, but he legit was too far up his own ass to apply himself in that department, despite him being eaten alive by his unfulfilled need for female adoration. I do agree that he'd be an interesting subject for the good doctor here, though.
@@mc_zittrer8793 no in his manifesto, he actually made some attempts to put himself out there. He tried saying hi to a girl walking past him one time, thats the only courage he was able to muster before retreating back into his shell. It's just when you have social anxiety, disorder, it comes across like you are not trying but your brains high level inhibitions stop you from really being able to do anything about it. normal people take their self expression for granted but someone like him usually end up virgins for a very long time and are unable to express themselves in a healthy manner. they just come across as shy and aloof or at worse awkward. Elliot hated being seen that way and i don't blame him because I hate being seen that way.. I will say that his ego is big and his inability to put himself out there and get a girlfriend stung way worse for him than the average person which is why he took that as more of an insult than your average guy that doesn't have much luck with women. For elliot, the idea of commiting acts of violence came far easier to him due to the level of anger and envy in his heart.
Narcissism is what you all society are infected with
Great videos, Dr. Grande! Have you covered Randy Stair? If not, I'd definitely appreciate your take on the mental health issues surrounding his case.
He has a wonderful smile. He is very empathetic and kind.
I would love to see a video that talks more about homicidal ideation. I've seen a lot of information about suicidal ideation and ways psychologists screen for it, but I don't see as much discussion about HI. I always appreciate your perspective!
"Removing the need for the question itself"... wow. I really enjoy your videos, they make my brain work hard, thank you!
This is so interesting! I loved this video! I'm subscribing ♡
I’m always impressed with your knowledge of firearms Dr. Grande.
It starts off gruesome! Your crime analysis videos are like dissecting a real horror movie! Great job Dr.
I love how you always have witty comment to make or you take a little jab at the perpetrator. It injects something nice into otherwise grim subjects and is one of the reasons I keep coming back to your videos
You're the best Dr. Grande.
Thanks!
Thanks for the analysis Dr Grande.
Another one who fell through the cracks with deadly consequences Thanks Dr G
Some people fall through the cracks, others are pushed through.
@@blujaebird True
Dr. Grande.
I think you were 'right on' concerning
James Holmes.
Not going to lie, I took the glass houses thing literally too until this video. My interpretation of it was that if you start an argument without a solid foundation, be prepared to have someone cast evidence back towards you that may shatter it.
I was living in Aurora when this happened. I had always been concerned about possible drug use/abuse as a factor in this case. Your summary of the case history makes clear this young man was almost certainly brilliant but mentally unwell. I say this because he had a 4.0 GPA.
From what I understand James Holmes did not use drugs or alcohol. While I was not surprised that he didn't get the Death Penalty even though Colorado was still a Death Penalty state; I think that the sentence was reasonable under the circumstances. James had pleaded Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity to avoid being sentenced to death.
A very sad mystery for the victims. I wish we knew more about how people like him develop. As always, really good job breaking down the various mental states.
2:40
I love how he's trying not to laugh here.
I too find your sense of humor refreshing.