Disney Needs 'Course Correction' Says Legendary Animator!

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
  • OUCH! Disney animation is on the skids, and the company needs a "course correction" says legendary animator and director John Musker (The Little Mermaid, Aladdin). He also wants you to know ahead of time he had NOTHING to do with Moana 2, which doesn't bode well for the sequel.
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Komentáře • 528

  • @aster4jaden
    @aster4jaden Před 24 dny +240

    It's too late for Disney, Bob is hellbent on solidify his Legacy as the man who ruined Disney.

    • @freedomwriter1995
      @freedomwriter1995 Před 23 dny +13

      Also, he's already sold off so much of his own stock in the company so he doesn't have any incentive to change things.

    • @freedomwriter1995
      @freedomwriter1995 Před 23 dny +8

      Also, he's already made tens, if not hundreds, of millions to fall back on when things go south. So why should he care?

    • @dragoonmk4203
      @dragoonmk4203 Před 23 dny +16

      Bob Iger is to Disney, what the Iceberg was to the Titanic. 😂

    • @rashidisw
      @rashidisw Před 23 dny +5

      Disney insistent on denying Get Woke Go Broke are real thing, did make them too late to course correct.

  • @jodi2847
    @jodi2847 Před 24 dny +338

    "Disney needs to course correct," says animator... and EVERYONE ELSE.

    • @SapphireDragonDX
      @SapphireDragonDX Před 24 dny +19

      Cue the "Well no f*cking sh*t!" meme.

    • @j.robertsergertson4513
      @j.robertsergertson4513 Před 24 dny +6

      Too late the ship already hit the iceberg.

    • @littleluxia
      @littleluxia Před 23 dny +9

      Everyone with common sense has been saying this for years! Disney is no longer what it used to be, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to stop taking Pixie Dust!

    • @HenriFaust
      @HenriFaust Před 23 dny +2

      The animator hasn't gone anywhere far enough. Nothing short of debridement will allow the company to heal.

    • @brockpifer9929
      @brockpifer9929 Před 23 dny

      That’s what we all have been saying!

  • @glauberlopes1779
    @glauberlopes1779 Před 24 dny +327

    The problem is that they don't want to, nor can they change quickly enough.

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 24 dny +3

      Why the hell don't they?

    • @coreywong6229
      @coreywong6229 Před 24 dny +17

      Cause if they do that mean Malpus Legate Igor is gonna have to go back on all of his ideals and we all know the Destroyer would rather be put 6ft under before he admits his and his ilks' screw ups.

    • @RustyShackleford-kd9it
      @RustyShackleford-kd9it Před 24 dny

      Even if they change today, they will never get another dollar out of me.
      Now that I know what they really think, I know that if I give them money, they’ll turn around and use it against me (giving money to causes or politicians).

    • @TheTwinkelminkelson
      @TheTwinkelminkelson Před 24 dny +15

      At this point, I don't think they can even afford to change.
      I mean they spent so much of their effort kicking people out who were normies, they're not gonna just come back when they change course, even if they make a big fuss about it. At least not to a degree that'll keep them afloat.

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 24 dny

      ​@@coreywong6229That's what they should force him to do or fire him if he wants to behave like a man child.

  • @asteroidchan
    @asteroidchan Před 24 dny +150

    Course Correction? More like a full 180 turnaround. It's no longer about the story, but lectures and messages. Boring.

    • @realitycheck6333
      @realitycheck6333 Před 23 dny

      They missed the turnaround window, Disney has officially passed the critical point of no return. Whether they pull a 180 or just keep going forward, they've tainted their brand to an irreparable degree. I truly do not think they could recover from this even if they separated themselves from politics/wokeness entirely, which we all know they won't even do that.

  • @geekyphoton5584
    @geekyphoton5584 Před 24 dny +215

    Forced DEI is a death sentence to quality. Even worse, forcing DEI into critical professions (e.g., medically-related fields) can lead to actual deaths.

    • @M167A1
      @M167A1 Před 24 dny +20

      Quality is not a goal saturation is, They think they can survive until the market catches up with them.

    • @lesewing
      @lesewing Před 24 dny +23

      Meanwhile at boeing...

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 23 dny

      Forced DEI is fascism and dictatorship that cannot be legal.

    • @samhobbs9116
      @samhobbs9116 Před 23 dny

      DEI is communism for companies

    • @upStomp
      @upStomp Před 23 dny

      Just wait until capitation is in full affect.

  • @bloopboop9320
    @bloopboop9320 Před 24 dny +149

    John Musker isn't a legendary animator. He's a legendary director: Great Mouse Detective, Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Hercules, Treasure Planet, Princess and the Frog, and Moana to name them.
    Him and Ron Clements basically defined the modern Disney brand.

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin Před 23 dny +15

      Wow, he did my all time favorite Disney movies. Mouse detective, Treasure planet are GOATS. The rest of those listed are great too

    • @whistlingsage9817
      @whistlingsage9817 Před 23 dny +8

      ​@@drowninginSo true! Treasure Planet in particular was criminally underrated, it was a great movie for boys.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 Před 23 dny +4

      @@whistlingsage9817 That was the basic problem it had. Disney's animated features' public always had a prevalence of little girls. Treasure Planet lacked a prominent female character, like there were in other male-led Disney movies, like Tarzan, Hercules, etc.

    • @vincenthoule5643
      @vincenthoule5643 Před 23 dny +2

      The great mouse detective will alaways have a place in my heart forever.

    • @kipolem53
      @kipolem53 Před 20 dny +1

      The funny thing is modern WDAS and Pixar would never let one person direct that many movies. Like Pete Doctor didnt even direct INside Out 2. And you cant' give me the "Oh he's the studio head so after Soul he stopped" excuse. James Gunn is studo head of DCU and that is not stopping him from directing the Superman movie.

  • @angelolopez931
    @angelolopez931 Před 24 dny +90

    Bob Iger with his Ego and minions?!
    They would rather see everything burn,
    instead of eating a humble pie.

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 23 dny

      I hate Bob Iger to death so much!

    • @Drixenol86
      @Drixenol86 Před 23 dny

      Because they don’t like humble pie.

  • @MmntechCa
    @MmntechCa Před 24 dny +36

    Even if Disney course corrected tomorrow, they still have two problems: 1) all the animation schools they recruit from are super woke, and 2) they've burned too many bridges with the people who have actual talent. Bob chose his hill to die on. Maybe Larry Fink will take pity and hire him.

    • @Raximus3000
      @Raximus3000 Před 24 dny +5

      First of all Bobo needs to go, then the next one should be prepared and willing to repair things.
      Moving their HQ away from LA would help.

    • @littleluxia
      @littleluxia Před 23 dny +7

      Not to mention the endless bullying and gaslighting Disney did to the public, especially to families.

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 23 dny +6

      Why the hell don't companies keep their damn woke politics out of schools and other businesses? Then we wouldn't be in this mess on who's side they are on.

    • @thedeepfriar745
      @thedeepfriar745 Před 23 dny

      A lot of them aren’t recruited or haven’t even set foot in an animation school or a film school.

    • @racingraptor4758
      @racingraptor4758 Před 22 dny

      ​@@Disneyfan82they want those in schools so they will grow new generation of sheep who they will rule. Only thing is that kids hate those things and arent buying it too maybe even more than us. So it doesnt work

  • @365ral
    @365ral Před 24 dny +55

    We need more people like Musker, who actually respect Disney's legacy and fans, back in charge of Walt's company.

    • @jordanmatthews1466
      @jordanmatthews1466 Před 24 dny +4

      It's far too late for them. #DisneyIsDead

    • @mikecampos1193
      @mikecampos1193 Před 24 dny

      Even if he was offered a seat at the board he could only do so much.

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 23 dny

      I wish that we had help from more than one person forcing those bad people out of Disney forever and never come back.

    • @365ral
      @365ral Před 23 dny +2

      @@Disneyfan82 I know it wouldn't take just one person. Iger's entire regime needs to be replaced.

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 23 dny

      @@365ral That's what I mean.

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott Před 24 dny +67

    If someone would have told me 30 years ago that Disney would turn into a racist and bigoted company that idealizes skin color, I would have laughed.
    I’m not laughing now.

    • @moresnacksplease526
      @moresnacksplease526 Před 23 dny +14

      I can't tell if it's more ironic or fitting that the generation ostensibly dedicated to ending racism will go down in history as the most racist generation in a century.

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger Před 23 dny +10

      @@moresnacksplease526 racism was dead in the 90s. this is why gen x is the forgotten generation. nothing to hate so they must be ignored.

    • @MSinistrari
      @MSinistrari Před 23 dny +5

      @@DieselRamcharger GenX was encouraged to be independent. We had to learn from our mistakes and experience the world for ourselves. We picked up on how much of a mess things are and to pick our fights with actions having consequences. We're the forgotten generation because we don't scream or freak out over every little thing compared to the other generations.

    • @ThePrincessCH
      @ThePrincessCH Před 23 dny +4

      Disney's always had a bit of a controversial reputation in regards to cultural depictions, though.

    • @Violetbunnyfish
      @Violetbunnyfish Před 23 dny

      I hate the direction they've been going in, but you can't say they're "racist." They're anti-racist. They're the opposite of racist.

  • @DeadFishFactory
    @DeadFishFactory Před 24 dny +94

    They keep talking about how they need to, but they won't. Disney does not want to admit that DEI hiring and practices is a failure, so they will continue to burn money so that they don't have to ever say that they were wrong.

    • @coreywong6229
      @coreywong6229 Před 24 dny +5

      Worth every penny till $1.99 MAC N Cheese is on the menu.

    • @nicholasanderson7316
      @nicholasanderson7316 Před 24 dny +6

      It’s not even profitable. If you’re not making money, what are you doing as a business? Definitely feel like there is some backdoor government pressure going on.

    • @mateog5362
      @mateog5362 Před 24 dny +4

      I think Kneon is spot on here. The tumblr crowd they hired is very resentful vindictive and litigious- the bosses are afraid of them. They know a course correction is needed but it’ll be a slow, tactful and expensive process to do so.

    • @veggsbacon1891
      @veggsbacon1891 Před 24 dny

      ​@mateog5362 The bosses are somewhat afraid of them or something? Damn, talk about weak leadership. I'll just fire ALL tumblr-like blokes with no issue anyway if I was a boss or ceo. Probably not instantly, but yeah.

    • @tacticianAlexandra
      @tacticianAlexandra Před 24 dny +3

      Yeah given how hostile they are towards anyone who doesn't endless praise their work to the sky. They are not interested in story telling. Otherwise, they would listen to feed back. For hey, that feed back might just be the gold they are looking for to help improve and craft a much better story next time.

  • @pineapplepizza4016
    @pineapplepizza4016 Před 24 dny +35

    They first have to admit they have a problem, and they seem incapable of doing that.

    • @sinafey7030
      @sinafey7030 Před 23 dny +1

      what do u mean? the problem is clearly the lack of modern audiance xDD

  • @sqengineer
    @sqengineer Před 24 dny +25

    I had a neighbor here in Orlando who was an animator for Walt Disney we moved in in 2007 and they moved out about 6 months after we bought our place. I talked with him quite a bit and he said he was leaving Disney because they were "losing their minds" in his own words even back then. He had found a job as an animator with the US army in Tennessee and that was where they were headed. Never heard from him again

    • @Zed-ti9uj
      @Zed-ti9uj Před 12 dny +1

      From the artistic caliber of Disney feature animation to the army, jeez what a downgrade. That's too bad, he could've worked at other studios. If he was a 2D animator that certainly makes sense - that was when the 3D push was at its peak and they were trying to wipe out the last traces of 2D.

  • @Laurie-elf
    @Laurie-elf Před 24 dny +93

    Yet will they? No. Theyre incapable of learning the folly of their ways.

  • @DarthVader1273
    @DarthVader1273 Před 24 dny +16

    Watching Disney do this is like watching an old friend ruin their life and actively blame you for their failures, and if they can’t be helped if they don’t WANT to be helped.

  • @adonisg7138
    @adonisg7138 Před 24 dny +14

    They need to clean house, bring back the legendary animators and take their time creating these movies again.

  • @americanpleb7871
    @americanpleb7871 Před 24 dny +37

    Too late for me. My child is 9 and watches nothing from Disney in the past 10-15 years. I refuse.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Před 23 dny +1

      Not even Cars 2?

    •  Před 23 dny +1

      @@Cubeytheawesome Cars 2 has it's moments tho... and even then, it's at least better than Mulan 2 and Belle's Magical World.

    • @americanpleb7871
      @americanpleb7871 Před 23 dny +1

      @@Cubeytheawesome no. Nothing.

    • @kipolem53
      @kipolem53 Před 20 dny

      Mulan 2 has one good song though, "Like Other Girls." That's more than the number of good songs Moana 2 is likely to have. Oh Cars 2 also has one, "You MIght Think." I feel like some of the dialogue in it is yikes but overall good movie, though I was sure that for the third one there was no way to ingore the spy stuff, but they did...
      And Cars 3 is definitely the lame one of the.. collection. It is not a trilogy because the second one doesnt really fit in with what hte first two aim for.
      And also the fact that Lightning McQeen is at the beginning of his career int he first and at the end in the third is super sketchy when you consider this is primarily a franchise to sell TOYS to children. Or soup cans, Cheez-It crackers, anything with Mater or LIghtning McQueen on it.

  • @bradleyharris774
    @bradleyharris774 Před 24 dny +43

    Disney at this point is a sinking ship that's taken in too much water. Patching the hole isn't going to fix anything.

    • @RokuroCarisu
      @RokuroCarisu Před 23 dny

      7.8/10 - IGN

    • @bradleyharris774
      @bradleyharris774 Před 23 dny

      @@RokuroCarisu I both love and hate how I instantly understood that reference.

  • @JustTooDamnHonest
    @JustTooDamnHonest Před 24 dny +24

    Disney needed a course correction 8 F*CKING YEARS AGO JOHN!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @joshuanovakowski8293
    @joshuanovakowski8293 Před 24 dny +11

    To the writers, the only thing is messages. There's a reason why the npc meme is a thing. The message IS their identity.

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 23 dny +2

      Meaningless DEI messages that it.

  • @tenwingaxis3240
    @tenwingaxis3240 Před 24 dny +26

    Disney is becoming less and less visible with each passing generation. They lost their touch, and the bulk of their market is 30+ years old.
    A colossal overhaul would be needed to correct itself over the course of the next 16 years, but it can't be done with the folks currently in charge.

    •  Před 23 dny +3

      I mean, when some random short film about a digital circus made by some Aussie teens in their basements becomes more popular than a Disney film meant to celebrate 100 years that got a SUPER BOWL AD and the gist in 2023... that says a lot.

    • @kipolem53
      @kipolem53 Před 20 dny

      There is a girl in her mid-twenties who does Disney vlogging content, and also seems to agree with DEI stuff, she doesnt make it super obvious but one of her statements indicated such. It had to do with the actor's strike, she claimed she wanted to be PC, which is ew.
      My curiosity is, what does one do if their YT content is focused on something that is now against their principles? For instance, a Disney logger, do they feel obligated to keep doing that if they no longer agree with Disney? What about a Pokemon GO content creator? Do they just shut down their channel because PGO is now woke? It can be scary, I'd expect...
      Although the vlogger mentioned above also claims to go to church, which makes it weird that she would care about political correctness. She does originate from Texas, but like...where in our state? Because it sounds like she might come from Austin, just recently learned about their leanings, yikes.

  • @collegeman1988
    @collegeman1988 Před 24 dny +24

    Even if Disney course corrected now, it would take 3 or more years to see a positive change in the company that used to be in the business of entertaining audiences instead of lecturing and insulting them.

    • @littleluxia
      @littleluxia Před 24 dny +9

      And even if they do, some former fans will never return. Its hard to reestablish trust after bullying your fans for years.

    • @moresnacksplease526
      @moresnacksplease526 Před 23 dny +2

      It took 3-8 years to get rid of everyone, it will take at least 3 just to get the pieces in place to start working on something positive, and then another 2-4 after that. Any animation student with a heartwarming-story-that-captivates-the-audience and a Midjourney subscription will be able to make a Pixar movie by then.

  • @jessehamm3573
    @jessehamm3573 Před 24 dny +10

    They won't be able to course correct without shedding a considerable portion of the dead weight that they've accumulated over the last three years.

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp Před 24 dny +18

    Disney is dead. They will never change. They don't wanna change.

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 23 dny

      They're immature, spoiled, narcissistic brats that's what they are.

  • @dantespicysausage9615
    @dantespicysausage9615 Před 24 dny +70

    Yet will they? No. Theyre incapable of learning the folly of their ways

    • @wesmcinerny4524
      @wesmcinerny4524 Před 24 dny +7

      They are not incapable. They just refuse to learn.

    • @TheRebelkid15
      @TheRebelkid15 Před 24 dny +13

      @@wesmcinerny4524 Hence. Incapable. Refusal is the same thing.

    • @deshaunbethea5254
      @deshaunbethea5254 Před 24 dny +2

      @@wesmcinerny4524Also they won’t do what John and other people are saying to them because they’re doing quantity over quality.

    • @superzilla784
      @superzilla784 Před 24 dny +6

      Them removing TinkerBell is the biggest sign they won't change their ways. they hate Disney. they want to remake the company in their own image.

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 23 dny +2

      ​@@superzilla784Why the hell don't they go work somewhere else if they feel that way?

  • @edwardsaldana2534
    @edwardsaldana2534 Před 24 dny +34

    The problem is not 3d animation, the real problem with 2018-2024 movies is not having a good writing team

    • @coreywong6229
      @coreywong6229 Před 24 dny +8

      This. SEE THIS IS WHAT MATTERS.

    • @jeffreyscott2252
      @jeffreyscott2252 Před 24 dny +7

      And people don’t want to eat a turd sandwich of messaging

    • @tsiefhtes
      @tsiefhtes Před 24 dny +5

      2015 to present really

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 Před 24 dny +5

      If Disney's 2D animated films still had good writing, they'd still coexist with 3D animated films.

    • @OhSayWhatIsTruth
      @OhSayWhatIsTruth Před 24 dny +3

      @@tsiefhtes Zootopia and Moana were great films. The dismissal of John Lasseter is where I draw the line for both Disney and Pixar.

  • @GamerX51
    @GamerX51 Před 24 dny +24

    Disney is well past the point at which simple course correction can save them. They've driven their audience off with woke politics, and most of them won't be coming back even if Disney does change it's tune now. People don't forget insults easily, a fact that Disney is about to learn.

    • @coreywong6229
      @coreywong6229 Před 24 dny +3

      Man from glam and high end to broken down and thinks their buisness is high end. Let em become a two bit carne operation. They've earned that and much more.

  • @alarsonious2071
    @alarsonious2071 Před 24 dny +19

    Some Disney Veterans are about to be called ists and phobes.

  • @MaverickhunterXZero
    @MaverickhunterXZero Před 24 dny +8

    Disney needs to course correct, but we all know they won't.

  • @blacksaber79
    @blacksaber79 Před 24 dny +9

    You can't course correct if you don't know where you're going.

  • @kyledabearsfan
    @kyledabearsfan Před 24 dny +12

    Moana is the last Disney film that felt like old Disney. With family and product more important than the messaging.

  • @CaptainAwesome60
    @CaptainAwesome60 Před 24 dny +18

    Walt is turning in his grave because of how Disney turned into

  • @CONiner217
    @CONiner217 Před 24 dny +13

    In the past, different IP had their own edge. Something that made them unique and had a certain audience in mind. But I believe by using the "for everyone" approach, they started sanding down the edges more and more over time to the point that there are no edges left and all that remains is a sphere in the place of a sturdy cube.

    • @sakunaruful
      @sakunaruful Před 23 dny +1

      I agree. Not everyone film is made for a broad audience. Some films are specifically targeted toward a niche audience that will appreciate it.

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 Před 24 dny +36

    John Musker, John Lasseter. Animation giants who need to be brought back. Disney cannot return to glory without their like.

    • @moresnacksplease526
      @moresnacksplease526 Před 23 dny +6

      Nah, it's over. Even if there was the will, by the time they remove all of the people required to bring back the Old Guard, any animation not made in Korea will be 6 people in a living room using AI(maybe Lasseter's), not the mini-Google-plex that is Pixar. They tried very hard to distance themselves from their past, and it worked-- we no longer associate them with good films. Since they can't fire everyone, hire everyone, and then rebuild the reputation before theater chains go under, they'll likely go the way of Hannah-Barbara.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome Před 23 dny +1

      @@moresnacksplease526remember that one trend of AI Pixar posters? Those would have made better movies than whatever elemental and inside out 2 were about.

  • @peacebeatsdrama
    @peacebeatsdrama Před 24 dny +12

    Imagine someone asking you 20 years ago what it would take to permanently destroy the Disney brand?
    You wouldn’t even accept the premise, let alone waste time thinking about how hard (near impossible) that would be?🤷🏻‍♂️
    Yet here we are in 2024 with a Disney brand that is trashed forever. 🤦🏻‍♂️

    •  Před 23 dny +1

      People back in 2004 were all like "Disney cheap-quels are the worst thing this company has, alongside Roseanne Barr as a talking cow".
      How innocent they was.

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 Před 24 dny +28

    Disney's business model is "customers will buy whatever we make at any price we set"

  • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
    @SuperCosmicMutantSquid Před 24 dny +14

    "I'M NOT LISTENING TO AN OLD WHITE MAAAAAAAAAN!"
    (gets knocked out)
    "You are now."

    • @veggsbacon1891
      @veggsbacon1891 Před 24 dny +5

      Those blokes won't get presents from Santa Claus cuz he's a jolly old man. He only gives presents to good boys and girls. He's based.

    • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
      @SuperCosmicMutantSquid Před 24 dny +3

      @@veggsbacon1891 "HO HO, NO!"

  • @wesmcinerny4524
    @wesmcinerny4524 Před 24 dny +19

    Ah yes. John Musker, who, with the help of Ron Clemments, directed such great Disney feature films as The Great Mouse Detective in 1986, The Little Mermaid in 1989, Aladdin in 1992, Hercules in 1997, Treasure Planet in 2002, The Princess and the Frog in 2009, and Moana in 2016.
    From what I've heard, John and Ron have left Disney and are now working on an animated film for Warner Bros based on the Metal Men from DC Comics.

    • @Zed-ti9uj
      @Zed-ti9uj Před 12 dny

      Not anymore. That got cancelled due to a management change at Warner Bros and they decided not to push for it.

  • @KillaD69
    @KillaD69 Před 24 dny +35

    Disney is like a stubborn cat owner to its audience "GARY! YOU WILL EAT YOUR FOOD AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!"

  • @rengarcia5189
    @rengarcia5189 Před 24 dny +14

    Are you saying all those women from Tumblr aren't up to the job??

    • @thedeepfriar745
      @thedeepfriar745 Před 23 dny +3

      Yes because they aren’t good at even basic animation

    •  Před 23 dny

      In hindsight, it's hilarious to think about their status... AI will either help them, cause they don't know jacksquat about animation, or hurt them, because they'd take their jobs.

  • @ComposedSage75
    @ComposedSage75 Před 24 dny +23

    They’ve seen and heard all the criticisms going on in the company and yet it all went ignored. They don’t want things to change.

  • @deshaunbethea5254
    @deshaunbethea5254 Před 24 dny +9

    They’re getting worse than ever and they really do need to focus on course correction as John is right about that. If they won’t do what Musker says and still keep doing quantity over quality they HAVE NO FUTURE!

  • @lesewing
    @lesewing Před 24 dny +10

    Disney is done with heart and soul with their movies. All they want now is stench and trash.

  • @GerarddeSouza-yt3fc
    @GerarddeSouza-yt3fc Před 24 dny +9

    I think it's impossible to course correct. Once upon a time, artists worked at Disney into their 60s and 70s. The old guard has been purged. New animators can technically animate but there's no one to pass on Walt's philosophy. It's been absolutely consumed by executives who don't care about the art of animation and just see it as something that can be done by anyone as long as its cheap.It's all about the expectation of unrealistic (for this 21st century media market) earnings for shareholders. Course correct? They're heading for an iceberg. They are practically Disney in name only now.

    • @sandyd6602
      @sandyd6602 Před 24 dny

      Disney hit the iceberg many years ago with Woke Agendas and DEI. It is a sinking ship and the rescue ship is not coming. Its like they bought a beautiful tree and watered it each day with weed killer. I still cant believe anyone could destroy what Walt Disney created...but here we are.

  • @Phlogiston2312
    @Phlogiston2312 Před 23 dny +2

    When talking about Disney, it feels like it's a financial report and not a creative studio

  • @Jan-hx9rw
    @Jan-hx9rw Před 24 dny +5

    Disney delenda est. You can't turn all the animated classics into endless live-action second-tier movies, and they've conditioned the entire world to wait for animated material to be put on streaming. Disney's days of putting butts into theater seats are long gone.

  • @docmike8601
    @docmike8601 Před 24 dny +9

    As a gen Xer, I remember when if a Disney movie came out, life revolved around going to see it. It was essentially a can't miss cultural phenomenon, simply by virtue of being Disney. It didn't matter what age you were, male, female, or whatever, everyone wanted to see the new disney movie.
    The last Disney movie my daughter wanted to watch was Moana.
    Now everyone from my family to friends, and kids asks "is it a Disney movie?" And as soon as somebody answers in the Afirmative, whether it is animated, a remake, or even owned by Disney like Indiana Jones and the dial of Destiny, nobody has any interest.
    We're not going to see it in the theater, we are not subscribing to Disney Plus, we're just not interested enough to even give it a chance.
    Not because of our politics, my social group is definately well left of center, though not extreme, and we just think it is bad story telling and not even entertaining in the least.
    Literally nothing Disney puts out is even worth a chance in our eyes at this point. We don't rage against it, we just quietly don't pay for it.

    • @Zed-ti9uj
      @Zed-ti9uj Před 12 dny

      Okay? What, you want a hug? Shoulder to cry on and tell you Disney is going to change? Or you just want to complain? The latter. Oh, Jesus. You have a vested interest in expressing how you quietly don't care for something.

    • @docmike8601
      @docmike8601 Před 11 dny

      @@Zed-ti9uj No I don't want them to change...I want them to go bankrupt and have to liquidate their assets to a competator I am willing to invest in.
      My financial interest is undoubtably seeing Disney fail.
      But I do like to discuss the market forces that influence investment choices.

    • @Zed-ti9uj
      @Zed-ti9uj Před 11 dny

      @@docmike8601 In the hopes they grow as massively influential as Disney was? That's a stretch. There are plenty of smaller animation studios that are just as superb and allow for a LOT more creative wiggle room than a corporation with a lot of money on the line that has never been able to resist the temptation of checking boxes. You should check those out. A lot of former animators started their own studios or otherwise do independent films - both big and small. Don Bluth was one of those and was able to shape peoples' childhood with movies like "Land before Time" - though some animators have argued that his work is mediocre. There's too many of them to count, and it's all there. If you want art and story, it's extremely abundant. It just won't be handed to you on a platter. Like Musker - after leaving Disney, his film "I'm Hip" almost made the cut for an Oscar nomination but didn't make it past the Top 15 cut. The director for Klaus on Netflix was the animator for Hades in Hercules, Glen Keane(supervising animator of Ariel) does his own thing, Ken Duncan has his own studio, and Aaron Blaise(Director of Brother Bear) just finished a short film about a polar bear that's going through the film festival circuit. Disney, off of being a massive corporation, has always had very, very narrow creative room to work with with too many types of viewers in the audience to creatively appease. That leaves a lot out that these other studios offer that some people may find even more value in. The extreme limitations of stories they can tell is the downside of the capitalist aspect of the filmmaking system, but good/bad in that it literally shapes the culture of the world being so widespread.

  • @fziii
    @fziii Před 24 dny +6

    Around 40 years ago I saw an off broadway play called: Vampire Lesbians of Sodom.
    It was meh… but please don’t pretend that this kind of thing is new. The new generation just is trying to say ‘look at me’

  • @AL-ws5yi
    @AL-ws5yi Před 24 dny +7

    Just walk away. You don’t have to take the crap they put out.

  • @MichaelVnz
    @MichaelVnz Před 24 dny +8

    The princess and the Frog changed to a black lead character and used it in the setting, historical and political context as part of the story and to remind the audience of their past.
    It wasn't European castle full of random diversity with no meaning and relation to the audience watching it. Just because.

    • @MichaelVnz
      @MichaelVnz Před 24 dny +5

      They made an African American story. Not a white guilt apology fantasy.

    • @kevinzhang6623
      @kevinzhang6623 Před 23 dny

      ​@@MichaelVnzFrog Prince is not an African American story. It's a European story. They "race swapped it" and put African American culture in it. The "anti-woke" crowd would lose their minds if it came out today.

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 Před 24 dny +27

    The entire company needs new blood that understands Disney and it's absorbed properties.

    • @coreywong6229
      @coreywong6229 Před 24 dny

      Thats funny. How about new blood that isn't based on d.e.i. requirenments

    • @camerontroutman1605
      @camerontroutman1605 Před 24 dny +4

      How they gonna do that? You know how Disney is, people like Iger is straight up hellbent on taking full control & power in the company with this DEI bs, which is the same thing that Feige (Marvel) & KK (Lucasfilm) are focusing on messaging over creativity, that’s a problem.
      Think about it, if you’re actually a creator and wanted to share it with everyone in the world where they can escape to be entertained and have a good time; considering if you’re working with stubborn and abysmal movie company like Disney for example, they’ll take advantage of work behind your back adding more DEI agenda-driven crap, throws you under the bus for another box office failure again like the ALWAYS do.
      That’s one of the main reasons why your creative work comes before you before you trust working with anyone around you. (like your protecting your baby, your own kid) Its just like the actor & director Ryan Reynolds & Shawn Levy are fighting against Disney’s ideologies together to make sure the Deadpool & Wolverine movie do good in theaters.
      I agree with you 100% that they do need new blood who understands old school Disney, but again I’m just saying, there could be some greedy corporates you can’t trust sometimes. If they say that love your creative work as everyone else does & they plan making a reboots, sequels or prequels, you have to speak up for what you think first or what the fans think first as well.

    • @brockpifer9929
      @brockpifer9929 Před 23 dny +2

      Like me. I’m a huge Disney fan I’ve always have been, and I know what needs to be done. I dreamt about being CEO lately and I’ve been drawing out plans and goals I have to make the company great again
      My ideas include:
      - selling 20th Century Fox back
      - selling Hulu, National Geographic, A&E, and possibly ESPN (but I would keep the ESPN wide world of sports at Disney World)
      - of course dropping the high prices in everything like the parks and Disney+
      - and we’re gonna shift our focus back on entertaining people rather than making things that’s targeting a certain group or demographic
      on top of other stuff

    • @jilp2002
      @jilp2002 Před 23 dny

      ​@brockpifer9929 shut up

    • @camerontroutman1605
      @camerontroutman1605 Před 18 dny +1

      @@brockpifer9929 You’re my favorite pick I’ll totally choose for future CEO in the Disney company🤞💯

  • @fakshen1973
    @fakshen1973 Před 24 dny +6

    "It's got to run through 10 peole to get approved"
    DING!DING!DING!DING!IDING!
    So many people have to "approve" of every aspect of a Disney project that they are now bland and unappealing to the audience. Nobody is there to make sure the story works and the audience is entertained. They are all there to push whatever agenda that they personally represent. You can't make ART VIA COMMITTEE!!! Movies are art. Television is art. Music is art. Video games are art. Artisans do make the art come to life. But if you want it bland... do it by committee.

  • @rtbear674
    @rtbear674 Před 24 dny +6

    They got their utopia, Distopia

  • @plumaDshinigami
    @plumaDshinigami Před 24 dny +3

    It needed course correction years ago, now it needs to burn and for the ash-covered ground to be salted.

  • @___David__
    @___David__ Před 24 dny +7

    Well...we all know that JOHN. But guess what? Disney's dumb shareholders didn't think so. So here we are.

  • @focornali4349
    @focornali4349 Před 24 dny +3

    Discworld under Musker's supervision would be super interesting!

  • @jaymethysell5111
    @jaymethysell5111 Před 24 dny +4

    Pixar needs more jiggle physics.

  • @thatsnotoneofmeatsmanyuses1970

    It's too late. Enough people are actively avoiding them, and they have made reform noises with no action too many times. They no longer have the talent, either.

  • @ranger_danger403
    @ranger_danger403 Před 24 dny +15

    Crazy idea Disney...make stuff the audience wants to see, dont pander and you'll make money.

  • @dwood78part23
    @dwood78part23 Před 24 dny +5

    Everybody save for Iger & his booklicks on The Disney Board & the MSM can see it. But if the shareholders aren't willing to force change, then both they & the company are getting what they deserve.

  • @ricklord7144
    @ricklord7144 Před 24 dny +4

    How absurd! One would have thought the box office, park attendance, and streaming service disasters would have sent them the message a long time ago! NOPE! And we're supposed to think when a retired Disney animator says a Course Change is needed, it's going to suddenly change the minds of the idiots running the operation? Not going to happen!

    • @Disneyfan82
      @Disneyfan82 Před 23 dny +1

      Why the hell won't they grow the hell up and get over themselves enough to do something about all this chaos? Oh, that's right. They think that everything is fine when it's not. Always lying to everyone and to themselves that there are problems.

  • @wil.d_sage
    @wil.d_sage Před 24 dny +12

    Netflix just released the second season of Blood of Zeus and people love it. Its not hard Disney

  • @geekyphoton5584
    @geekyphoton5584 Před 24 dny +4

    It's so sad -- and frustrating -- to see these inexperienced activists marginalize and force out talented, experienced professionals. Remember: if you want to be heard, VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET!

  • @JoesCaribbeanVanLife
    @JoesCaribbeanVanLife Před 23 dny +4

    I look back upon movies like Treasure Planet and think of the Disney movies I thought back then, I'd be watching today.

  • @calebmedley6906
    @calebmedley6906 Před 24 dny +4

    Disney Animation doesn't make anything new nowadays except Wish and that didn't do well 😢

  • @BigBen98-ko7ph
    @BigBen98-ko7ph Před 23 dny +3

    Disney needs a hostile take over, or go bankrupt, ship for self course correct sailed long ago.
    Only in right hands we can begin to talk about possible revival of Disney.

  • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
    @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Před 24 dny +3

    I think this ship has taken on too much water, it's sinking fast

  • @Ahmenthi
    @Ahmenthi Před 24 dny +5

    THE John Musker? As in the John Musker who gave us Aladdin, Hercules, Little Mermaid and The Great Mouse Detective (among plenty others)? The guy who would know a thing or two about creating quality films that are still looked back on fondly over 30 years later? Films that defined Disney for the modern era?
    THAT John Musker?
    This is how stupid Disney is. You have legendary creatives, as well as millions of fans, shouting the right choices to make like they're The Price Is Right audience and still, like Sideshow Bob, Iger elects to step on every single rake in the parking lot.
    You know what? It isn't stupid. At this point it is willful ignorance or stubbornness. Leadership is out of touch and creatively bankrupt. And it's because they're afraid of risking anything, because their projects are far too bloated and their bad ideas have already cost them too much. They did it to themselves.

    • @kevinzhang6623
      @kevinzhang6623 Před 23 dny

      You realize how much corporate nonsense they fought back then? It was greater than now. This is nothing new. Same as in the Dark Ages before the Renaissance.

  • @Shadows_Inc
    @Shadows_Inc Před 24 dny +2

    I'm curious what that journalist was trying to say when they said "harikari". That's not a thing. Maybe they meant "harakiri".

  • @httm241
    @httm241 Před 24 dny +3

    Disney is too bloated to course correct

  • @stephennussey5787
    @stephennussey5787 Před 24 dny +5

    Grass is green, says general public

  • @abrahamlupis9354
    @abrahamlupis9354 Před 24 dny +2

    Disney needs to not launch trailers and posters until the films are released

  • @josephdevens6815
    @josephdevens6815 Před 24 dny +3

    Disney: “Stay the course, increase the suck!!”

  • @Marbeary
    @Marbeary Před 23 dny +2

    The real question WILL THEY

  • @j.robertsergertson4513
    @j.robertsergertson4513 Před 24 dny +1

    Nope ! The ship has already hit the iceberg! Nothing left to do but watch it sink !!

  • @darthlaurel
    @darthlaurel Před 24 dny +1

    There's a HUGE difference between a story having a message, and messaging.

  • @Zzplys
    @Zzplys Před 24 dny +10

    They need more than just course correction

  • @Lurker1979
    @Lurker1979 Před 24 dny +2

    They are so arrogant. They won't do it. I think they will be bought outright by someone else.

    • @sandyd6602
      @sandyd6602 Před 24 dny

      I hope Elon Musk buys it and get Nelson Peltz to run as CEO. Disney can then sell all their failing movie studios and streaming that is bleeding them billions and an albatross around their necks. The Disney parks are the only things that make money and they are now even destroying those eg removing splash mountain for Tiana Brocolli adventure. The parks are no longer places to escape reality. Complete and Total mismanagement by woke cultural\cancel culture vandals. Walt Disney would be turning in his grave.

  • @WirrWicht
    @WirrWicht Před 23 dny +3

    “Animation is for kids.” I thought with the increasing popularity of anime we had moved past that. And if you're making family entertainment, then it's even better if you have things that young and adult audiences can enjoy and entertain.

  • @PKMN37
    @PKMN37 Před 23 dny +1

    "Disney needs to course correct!" Dude, the time to do that was seven years ago. It's too late now.

  • @someonlinedouche6992
    @someonlinedouche6992 Před 24 dny +8

    They need a whole REHAUL top to bottom. Saying they need a "course correction" is a massive understatement. He's far from wrong but massively downplaying what Disney needed(yes, past tense) and now there's nothing to save in that place of scum and villainy.

  • @wambutu7679
    @wambutu7679 Před 24 dny +3

    Disney won't course correct till Igor's employer can buy Disney at firesale prices.
    Whoever hired him got their money's worth.

  • @Purplesubmariner
    @Purplesubmariner Před 23 dny +1

    Disney's last chance to course correct they went out of their way to make sure didn't get a board seat

  • @chaz9808
    @chaz9808 Před 24 dny +4

    Course correct? lol disneys brand damage is permanent now course correcting is something you do within a certain amount of time that time has long since past for Disney.

  • @Omizuke
    @Omizuke Před 23 dny +4

    Too many cooks in the kitchen is why movies now have such a bloated budgets. Its not the CGI.
    Also. Treasure Planet was basically sabotage by Disney.

    •  Před 23 dny +2

      They really tried to make their 2D projects fail in the early 2000s... only reason why L&S was successful was because it had a relative lack of competition, allowing for people to see it and spread good word of mouth.

  • @soul-man
    @soul-man Před 23 dny +2

    Nope. Disney needs to go bankrupt, then get bought up by a new owner, and change the whole company from top to below. Tats the next course of direction.

  • @DarthLink1988
    @DarthLink1988 Před 24 dny +2

    Nope let them go full speed ahead to the edge of the flat earth. They decided to not use their brains so why stop now

  • @timberwolf4698
    @timberwolf4698 Před 24 dny +1

    If Disney wants they’re audience again, they need to return to hand drawn animation.

  • @amandakushner8665
    @amandakushner8665 Před 24 dny +2

    If I were these veteran animation artist, I would basically film myself doing drawing, 2D animation and old style animations and put it on CZcams See Try to learn it themselves how to draw these animation styles So they could be preserved forever

  • @cipherzx1
    @cipherzx1 Před 23 dny +1

    Saying Disney need to course correct won't change anything now. Disney is a sinking ship. Just a matter of time before the whole ship sinks.

  • @RenlangRen
    @RenlangRen Před 24 dny +1

    Disney needs to replace much of management. Until that happens nothing will change.

  • @madmanmike1980
    @madmanmike1980 Před 23 dny +1

    They need more than a course correction, Bob The Bum needs to be fired along with the executive board!

  • @emodante1084
    @emodante1084 Před 24 dny +1

    I think the opportunity to course correct has come and gone.

  • @TheAllSuaveMrToast
    @TheAllSuaveMrToast Před 24 dny +8

    Encanto is not a good movie it ends with a stupid twist. Mirabel has to stop her sister from being perfect and marry a good guy. Which made no sense because it was clear her sister loves the guy. Also the guy and her cousin never end together either. Is jut a story about Mirabel telling her sister to go crazy and stay single for not good reason. And Bruno was hiding because he was afraid of his prediction but he didn't do anything bad and that's the problem, he is not a villain or a misunderstood person is just a crazy guy who hide in the walls. Is a waste of time and the donkey are so insulting. Honestly no one in Latin America like that movie, the dolls never sell, girls felt insulted of how ugly they were. Was a waste of time. They could had done many thing but they did nothing but insult latinos.

    • @IZZYCHAN13
      @IZZYCHAN13 Před 23 dny

      Too many white culture family problems that made no sense in a Hispanic/Latino family

  • @OldVetNerdSage
    @OldVetNerdSage Před 24 dny +2

    Oh, they are 100% terrified of getting rid of the activist employees.

  • @SammEater
    @SammEater Před 24 dny +2

    Everyone knows that, but self correction would mean accepting that we were right all along.
    Do you really think that the people that see us as an enemy to be defeated would do what we want?

  • @sardomarcrowe5723
    @sardomarcrowe5723 Před 23 dny +1

    The Titanic is a perfect metaphor for Disney;
    Oversized, overbuilt, over-confident despite glaring design flaws, ignoring both warning signs and communicated warnings, blindly plowing on ahead with full speed, ultimately thinking that not even looming icebergs in her dangerous course can sink her, because she will see them in time, and turn in time, and if not, she can crack them.
    Everyone, there are not enough lifeboats aboard, only enough for the chosen few elites that caused this mess. The rest will be allowed to go down with the ship.

  • @peterpidrak9501
    @peterpidrak9501 Před 23 dny +2

    I think one of the problems is that they are so used to seeing race, sexuality, gender as such important parts of somebody’s identity that as soon as they get those things, they forget about it, needing to be an actual character.
    So of course, there’s characterization there female black and gay. No but like what is her motivation? What’s her backstory female black gay.

  • @nightboy44
    @nightboy44 Před 24 dny +2

    it's trying to talk to the borg be assimilated or destroyed

    • @lesewing
      @lesewing Před 24 dny +1

      Also like Toy Story 1 and those alien toys in the claw machine. Just replace the alien toys with Disney and the claw with Blackrock.

  • @boboifiii1289
    @boboifiii1289 Před 23 dny +1

    So they want the message still, it just needs to be subtle? They learn nothing