In this video I talk about Tamatoa for 30 seconds, plus I talk about some other lame twist Disney villains who don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Him
Disney : We love our villains! Disney channel : We made the villains have children! Disney plus : We made a short about it! Pixar : We made twist villains! Modern dis nee : *What villains?*
That’s true unfortunately. A lot assume you are fake for being kind and showing sympathy. Obviously it’s dangerous to use that as a personality to deceive people but I do feel like us humans lack compassion towards each other 🤷🏽♀️
Exactly, if I were an evil supervillain that planned to exploit animal racism to get what I wanted then I simply wouldn't have the patience to act nice all the time for almost no reason
Zypper Yes- why couldn’t they make a scene where lamb girl complains about her job with the MCs but says “ I’m trying to stay positive because in the end it will be worth it” before MCs can question it lamb is already gone
Big Hero 6 could have been a bit better if Callaghan had a moment of shock after he was told Tadashi died. He seemed to genuinely care about Tadashi at first.
And if early in the movie it was revealed that other man who "killed" Abgail actually was the cause of the fire, even if it was accidental, and Callaghan be like "one more reason to get revenge >:("
Wait, hold up, didn't he? I remember the movie like this: Found out that the brother died because he tried to save him and then the villain being in shock, before blurting out that it was the brother's own fault. Kinda deflecting blame. Or maybe that is what the German voice actors did. Hard to tell if it is different in the English version as I haven't seen it.
Even the infamous "That was his mistake" could be the slightest bit impactful if directed properly. Have Callaghan react in shock, but silently consider the scene before him and his lifegoal for a few seconds, harden his heart and his expression, and boom. "That was his mistake." You can make a character irredeemable while also having them portray actual brain activity and emotion.
To be honest, I would count Syndrome more as a villain rather than a twist villain, with the prologue of the movie being pretty much part of his backstory.
Well Syndrome is just a villain with a twist attached to him, he is pretty clearly introduced as a villain, although the mysterious employer being evil isn't stated, we just know something is going on, the twist is that it's Buddy, someone that idolized supers, in particular Mr. Incredible.
I really like Coco’s twist villain because as far as Ernesto knows, that’s still his grandkid and he’s totally willing to fucking kill him because it suits him. Wack.
He only decided to kill Miguel because he exposed him and that he killed hector for his music. Ernesto had a huge reputation when he was alive and he still kept that reputation even in death and he wasn’t about to let the grandkid of his friend tell everyone he was a murderer all along
I saw hector being miguel's ancestor a mile away but didn't see the ernesto twist coming. the fact that he would willingly kill his descendant (at the time he still thought miguel is) is so chilling and his motives create such a tragic outcome for miguel's family
@@phuongbach3864 I feel like there's a possibility that Ernesto knew Miguel wasn't his descendant, but instead just used him to gain more popularity. I don't know, it seems plausible
If Han said something like “She’s the one” at the beginning of the movie instead of just smiling it could’ve hinted that she was the one he was after. And if they added more ‘hints’ that could be interpreted as foreshadowing in a second watch the twist would make more sense.
Same. Honestly I think Hans would’ve worked better as a villain if he was the type where you knew he’s a bad person but most of the characters don’t until he reveals to them.
Nah, just have Hans explain to Anna that he’s kinda a spare at home and maybe have him become angrily frustrated for a moment before Anna calms him down. Have him become instantly cheerful again afterwards, hinting that he’s putting on an act. Maybe have him ask her a bunch about Elsa and kinda dismiss Anna at first? Like, he wants to befriend Anna through his backstory so that he can get close to the reclusive Queen, but he dismisses Anna’s romantic talk because he wants the throne, not a Princess. You could have him go after Elsa until it’s revealed that she has powers, at which point he latched onto Anna and even went after Elsa with her. You could show his facade breaking throughout the movie. Later on, have him go more in-depth to his backstory as he reveals that he doesn’t love Anna. He wants a throne and he can’t get one at home, so he wanted Elsa’s instead. After Elsa was a flop, he decided to tag along to get rid of Elsa while securing Anna and playing the brave hero. That would make his betrayal that much more stinging.
They did a great job with Turbo/King Candy. For all the reasons you mentioned, but also because due to him already being a pretty obvious villain, you kind of just... don't expect the huge plot Twist of him actually being Turbo. King Candy being the villain and therefore the obstacle is already established, so to have that EXTRA amazing reveal is fantastic.
But If the plot twist is that it has no twists then that means it has twists but if it has twists that means that not having plot twists is no longer a plot twist... AHHHHHH
@@louminouz Yeah, her character feels kinda forced by the subtle nods at being viewed as a lowly secretary who caters to a carnivore with authority. Although it's something, it's really not the strongest case for her turn into a fascist looking to incarcerate all carnivores.
I think the reason why Hans is not a good twist villain because I believe his ORIGINAL character wasn't supposed to be a villain, it was supposed to be ELSA. The whole plot just got changed because of "Let It Go" and they tried so hard to bring back Elsa as a good person and let Hans become the bad guy. They changed the whole original plot all of a sudden because of one song and it made the quality of the story go down. But that's just my opinion :/
Pretty much. They remade the plot to make Elsa an antihero but didn't actually change enough of it to move away from the final confrontation (where in the older drafts Elsa would've been defeated there to fulfill a prophecy).
@@AllenTheAnimator004 That too. Why they do, I have no idea. It can't be just because of Idina Menzel, because she's made several other songs that are actually good (do I need to mention Defying Gravity?). And it can't be just because it's about self-empowerment, because there are several other songs, from Disney and other artists, that have that same theme (Go the Distance from Hercules, for example). So why do people love Let It Go so much?!
The great thing about King Candy, what makes him work so well as a twist villain, is you could have made him not be a villain without changing anything about his motives, personality, or any of the events of the movie up to the reveal. You could have played him straight where he's the eccentric, if a bit crabby and out-of-place, Willy-Wonka-style ruler of Sugar Rush, who was only defensive toward Ralph because he genuinely did fear the guy was going Turbo, and who genuinely was trying to keep Vanellope from racing so she didn't threaten the game world and herself. The movie could have had them team up to fight the Cybugs, ended with her winning the race to his horror, the gamers loving her for her glitching ability, him learning he was wrong, and the three of them walking of into the sunset holding hands each having learned a valuable lesson. That would have been a perfectly natural ending. So it makes perfect sense that Ralph actually trusts him enough to sabotage Vanellope's cart and leave, with it only being pure luck that he learns he's been lied to.
@@louminouz she was to rapunzel The supposed point of a twist villain is that looks can be deceiving and bad people don't always go about boasting about how evil they are. Mother Gothel gets this across because while RAPUNZEL trusts her, the AUDIENCE knows that she's actually the villain. The twist isn't for you, it's for Rapunzel
Paulik Shmaulik ah yes that makes sense. Tho actual twist villians in theory are also meant to shock the audience. Gothel may have the concept of a twist done right (aka bad people dont announce how evil they are) shes not exactly a fair example since shes not really a twist villian.
@@louminouz I wonder if OP is trying to say that Gothel is a star example of having a *complex* villain without resorting to her being a *twist* villain. Gothel is obviously evil without being cartoonish villainous. She's also a great example of a strong FEMALE villain, because she achieves villainy through her feminine attributes (maternal manipulation and such).
what would have been even more intriguing, is if gothel had just waited, and approached The king and queeen and explained the situation, referencing the fact that the flower is hers, and that it was found with a basket near it. i wonder how that would go down. because the king anand queen didnt know gothel was the kidnapper, she wouldve had a clean slate to attempt reason
when i watched frozen as a kid, i didn't even realise hans was the villain 😭 whenever i thought of who the villain was, i just thought, "wait wasn't elsa the villain?"
She was originally going to be the villain until the people working on the film heard Let it Go for the first time and they were totally mesmerized by it, so they rewrote her to be a heroine.
Also if Disney just wanted a villain to make this harder for the protagonists then why not have the Duke of Weselton since he's already trying to kill Elsa
I was completely baffled by Waternoose's twist villain though, throughout half of the movie he's seen as desperate to help charge the city. But all the other monsters suck and aren't scary and he just seemed like the protagonist because of how friendly he came off and how much of a father figure he acted towards Sullivan. But the twist of how he became so desperate that he would've kidnapped 1000 children to keep the businesses going, is a complete twist to me. And even though he was a twist villain, he still, kept his father figure-ish personality saying that Sullivan was better than Randall. And another thing monsters inc did was add a main villain AKA Randall so you wouldn't expect Waternoose to be the main one since disney hasn't done that a lot and theirs normally one main villain throughout any disney movie. (idk it makes since why Waternoose was a good twist villain to me)
That would have been great yeah much better thank what they had done now And about the "too complicated for children" argument: I don't think so. It's not a difficult concept. What they did now was too complicated, I was 13 when Frozen came out and when Hans did a full 180 I didnt even understand what was happening. Children aren't super stupid, they can understand a lot of 'difficult' concepts If Hans had kissed Anna and it didn't work bc it just wasnt true love Hans goes like "maybe true love wasn't the key, but maybe killing Elsa will safe you" Since Anna knows the trolls said true love would help, she's against it and hes like "Anna, this clearly didn't work. Stay here until I've taken care of this" and locked her in bc even if it isn't true love, he likes her a lot and is desperate to safe her. She's all like no and yk like in the movies tries to get out and no one hears her. Then the movie just progresses like it did before just with slightly different dialogue. (Olaf: "what about Hans?" Anna: "That wasn't true love. It didn't work") (Elsa: "where's Anna?" Hans: "she's dying because of you") And then obviously Anna saves Elsa and the spell is broken. Hans wasn't just evil, he had been desperate to safe Anna and everything would have made more sense. Now it just kinda felt like Disney was like "hmm we like Kristoff better lets get Hans out of the way" but Hans turning evil out of nowhere just didn't work
This video is the source for so much of Schaffrillas running jokes, video tone, and general style and flair. It's such a fun watch with so many great lines and really good points. I think it was my first Schaffrillas video, and it definitely is the purest of his entire channel in terms of encapsulating his style.
Rourke was doing what was normal for society and even what the hero Milo was doing - plundering dead civilizations (and some living ones as well) for valuables and curiousities. The twist works because Milo learned that it was wrong and harmful to take the Heart away, whereas Rourke not only doubles down on his greed, but he already about the Heart before Milo and withheld the information, and may have known that the Atlanteans were still alive and brought all his weapons along.
I loved the first one. Went in expecting the sequel to be mediocre but enjoyable. Was not expecting it to be flat-out awful and cringy. When your movie can be compared to the emoji move, you've made some bad decisions on a fundamental level.
The thing that annoys me the most about twist villiains, is the fact so many writers think a twist villain can only be the main villian. I think twist villains work better when there a minion because it will ensure that their can still be a consistent threat throughout a story.
Hans and Chelsea from Ruby Gillman… two twist villains that were actually cool and likable but then got screwed over because “those weren’t their true personalities”.
Otto is one of my favorite villains due simply to the fact he's an accurately depiction of a robot. He was following his programming and still obeyed the laws of robotics. Namely making sure he doesn't get anyone hurt. By letting the people free they'd die.
as a kid, king candy’s “twist” was horrifying. seeing him switch back and forward between his king “form” to his racer “form” gave me nightmares for at least a week.
My favorite twist villain is waternoose because his motivations are so consistent and so understandable that a determined devils advocate could honestly argue in favor of his plan. They’d be obviously wrong, but its ambiguous enough to be almost scary
I like that hes not “evil.” He’s just under a lot of pressure to keep his company in business. Children are becoming harder to scare the traditional way and this fact is threatening his company and the entire area that relies on it for power. He’s not an evil mastermind. He’s just a desperate businessman forced to do some questionable stuff to keep the company alive
What also makes the twist villain in Monsters Inc so great, is how it manages to fool us with something that should be blatantly obvious from the start. Like no duh the head of the company employing monsters to traumatize children for means of producing electricity (something the film frames as something of a neccessary evil, which in the end turns out to have been not neccessary at all) turned out to be villainous, but because our POV are duo of company's star employees benefitting from the status quo and one of whom is friends with the boss, it takes an escalation in the name of corporate interest for us to recognize something's not right.
i actually think hans would make a good king. anytime he's with the people or the court of the country, he is clearly a leader. when anne leaves to find elsa, he takes charge, he cares for the people, and when the two sisters are gone he takes care of the country in eternal winter just fine. _of course_ he tried to kill elsa, he thinks she's a bad person who has terrifying supernatural powers and cast eternal winter over the country and made snow monsters. i think he would've actually made a good husband for anna, they really had chemistry at the start. i also think neither of the sisters were emotionally or mentally available to rule a country at the start. i don't know, the direction they took with their characters just feel really forced.
It's been almost a year. WHERE IS THE 1 HOUR TAMATOA REVIEW?!?!?!?!? Edit: IT's BEEN OVER 2 YEARS AND HE STILL HASN'T MADE THAT 1 HOUR TAMATOA REVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DIdn't they rewrite Frozen at the last minute and that's why they had to suddenly make Hans a villian, which is why there's no indication of him being a villian beforehand?
disney could’ve made elsa struggle with grief and wanting to be accepted, so the let it go sequence would actually make sense, but she doesn’t actually know *how* to use her powers in order to feel free, so the whole time she spends at the ice castle she resents her parents for making her hide her powers thus making her unable to fully explore them and control them when needed. we could’ve had a similar « spiraling into madness » case as jinx does in arcane, since they have similar core needs that aren’t met, leading them to feeling frustrated, hurt and misunderstood. the fact that elsa mistakingly and unknowingly casted an eternal winter that she doesn’t know how to undo could’ve been a great way to enhance the resentment she feels towards her parents and the shame that comes with it would explain any aggressive/defensive behavior she could’ve exhibited. keep in mind that i’m going for the original snowqueen story, hence why all the elements of disney’s story should act as catalysts for her becoming a villain. anyway, elsa freezes her sister’s heart and learns later that she’d died from it, after hans tried in fact to kiss her but failed to undo the curse and lashing out at anna who suffers a slow, painful and very tragic death. hans then does in fact try to kill elsa for obvious reasons, nit that he actually loved anna but in order to make a good impression on the people and hopefully being seen as a good replacement king. he then goes on to blame elsa for her sister’s death and basically everyone just blames her making her feel extremely cornered in a situation where she has yet to process the fact that her sister died. she could then breakdown or lash out hurting/killing many pol in the process, because she CAN’T CONTROL HER POWER and ends up feeling like shit, being even more hated and feared, and after running away to another location, where she builds a new castle that would LOOK like someone who just lived through a horrible event built it, trying to recollect herself and process things, but every time she does that she breaks down so her only coping mechanism is to repress whatever emotions she is feeling as to not cast an endless winter on the whole entire world, but add to that all the nightmares, hallucinations of all the ppl she knew, creepy shadows and the voice from the second movie which could’ve been A HUGE contribution to her slow madness spiral, then ppl could try hunting her down again which only increases her anxiety and fear of hurting others and ends up hurting ppl in the process…but like elsa never actually worked on her emotions or processed any of them then at some point she could just, accept that she is the bad guy after all, and that she wants to discover her powers so she doesn’t care what happens after all, which worsens the winter and makes more and more ppl hate her and go after her. then you’d have a somewhat close replica to the original snow queen, plus some badly managed trauma responses and symptoms. she’d then start doing whatever she wants on impulse and doesn’t care about the consequences anymore, basically your typical villain that couldn’t been avoided have some ppl kept their mouths shut. imagine if after a while, elsa stops being scared of the voice from the second movie and tries finding out who it is, but instead of the closure she gets in the original sequel, this time all of her trauma resurfaces forcing her to face it but instead of working that out but she doesn’t like that so she destroys the cave thing etc…i can see why disney couldn’t adapt this for a kid’s movie
Yeah but most of his examples are important characters that "twist" towards the end. We didn't see him as a "good guy" throughout the film like the rest of the villains. He just shows up later.
I remember trying to justify Hans as a twist villain by discovering the very details of why he is written this way and it kind of works. But the fact that I needed to really observe the story and make an explanation out of obscure and over-looked/under-played details in the first place is just really bullshit on itself.
Yep. All Hans had to do was let the crossbow hit Elsa and the end. Line of succession held, winter is over because the caster is dead. So why didn’t he? Bad writing and a huge plot hole.
18:20 I think what she was trying to do was KEEP superheroes illegal. Winston was getting close to relegalizing superheroes. She couldn't just make a superhero fail at their job, because someone would succeed somewhere else. Making them revolt would keep anyone from ever wanting to do it again.
I said this on another video: how was Callaghan able to build a portal using the microbots if he most likely didn’t know how to build a portal from memory? If the microbots are like a genie that can build literally anything you want, he could make a “god machine” that makes himself basically God, letting him take over the universe, subject Krei to incomprehensible pain, and bring his…daughter…back yeah you see the problem here?
@@starrysymphonies Yeah, that’s a good point. Though, Cray’s experiment was the first portal ever made in that world, so I don’t see how Callaghan would know how to build the portal from scratch by himself.
I’m surprised that no one mentioned the bowler hat guy from Meet the Robinsons. That movie is so underrated and, in my opinion, a good plot twist villain
My mom said she always suspected Hans would be a villain since he said "I have 12 older brothers, two of which pretended I was invisible, literally, for years." Which is about the only indication that he might be a bad guy, but it's there and at least someone picked up on it, because I didn't.
@@iwakeupandboomimarat Even though he's a prince, he has so many older siblings that he'll never inherit anything from his parents. He'll be lucky if he's even allowed to stay in the castle if one of his meaner brothers claims the Throne.
I guessed from when he sung that song with Anna. I had just finished watching some film theory so my senses were on high alert and when I noticed that him and Anna weren't in full sync during the song I thought he might have alternative motives and was just letting Anna hear whatever she wanted to. watching film theory makes me overanalyze whatever I watch after it.
Apart from the twist villain, I actually like Big Hero 6. The person at Disney who made that decision may have ruined the ending to that movie, but... That was his mistake
i think they learned from yokai being a terrible villain bc he actually tries to redeem himself in the now cancelled series, and the series itself focuses on new but much better villains
i wake up and boom im a rat As a fan of the series, I can indeed verify this statement. Obake and Di were way better villains than Callaghan, my personal fave being Obake.
The biggest problem with Pixar in recent years is that Disney has slowly absorbed as much of it as it can into it's own toxic company culture. Disney isn't doing too hot recently with almost everything creative endeavor, and you can see the rot spreading to Pixar slowly over time.
Elsa from Frozen was originally supposed to be the villain in the movie. When creators and/or directors decided to make the movie more on sisterly love because they thought it would be a more compelling and heartwarming story, they made Hans the villain at the last minute and created Kristoff. Anna was supposed to be with Hans and since Hans was now the villain the creators and/or directors created Kristoff because "Anna had to have a love interest."
As a kid I got more of a sense that elsa was the villain and not hans. I mean her parents neglected her and isolated her. They reacted to her powers by trying to cover it up and put on a fake smile. They let fear control them. Maybe they should have allowed her to practice her power in secret and still live a normal life. So then she wouldn't hate her parents and become a villain because nobody seemed to accept her as a child. But somehow she managed to pull through all that, nothing short of a miracle. Because it doesn't seem likely.
One thing I found interesting about Inside Out is that I predicted Bing Bong to be the villain as soon as I saw him. He just had that vibe about him. But then..."Take her to the moon for me..."
Same! I thought he was the villain from the beginning, so when he died and still wasn’t the villain I wasn’t even affected by his death because I never made a good connection with him since I thought he was gonna be evil
17:34 i suppose he just wanted for the public to think he was dead and hiro's invention was destroyed in the process as well, so nobody would suspect him to be a masked guy nor looking for him and nanobots idk
I actually really like the approach Pixar takes in some movies where one villain is known from the start and another is a twist villain. When it's done well of course. I think Randall and Waternoose are a really good example which you said in the video.
My 11-year-old sister figured out Evelyn because she's the only Incredibles character to swear. I know it's dumb but if you think about it she's not entirely wrong.
I figured out Evelyn because, if you pay attention she is usually always in a darker more shaded area while her brother is usually always shown in a lit up environment.
I saw the news on Twitter and didn’t think I watched any videos from this channel but apparently I did watch. Devastating news always hits differently when you realize that it was someone you knew. I’m so sorry for your loss.
Crazy to think this is the first video I saw on this channel, I believe about three years ago. And now not only do I love these videos, but I find such encouragement from his more heartfelt videos. I started watching James’s most recent video on Whisper of the Heart and I had to stop before he got to explaining the movie so I could watch it for myself. But what he said about storytelling was so beautiful! It really spoke to me as someone who wants to tell stories too!
King candy is not a just a really good twist villain but an actual clever twist too because it's actually not really the fact he's a villain that shocks and impacts the audience, it's the reveal that he's Turbo that is shocking and impactful. It's like syndrome, a character we see and hear about briefly and then we kinda just forget about them so it's takes us by surprise when he makes an unexpected return
well, obwiously, you need a vewy high iq in order to understand the intricacies of royal political standoffs. [translation: let's kill the royals. then the land will be easy pickings]
actually, hans was thrown in last minute. Elsa was originally supposed to be the villain but after let it go, disney decided that it didn't sound like a villain's song
Elsa was supposed to be shown as the villian but Hans was still the villian in the original and then Elsa would be revealed to actually not be evil REVERSE SUPRISE VILLIAN
To comment of the 'that was his mistake' line from big hero six, I agree that as it is, it's a bad line. But changed, I think it could have been better. Make calahaugn sound less like someone who doesn't care that he caused Tadashi's death, and more like someone trying to convince himself that it wasn't his fault. Make him more sympathetic and misguided, instead of just a jerk
Isn't that what happened? There was a pause and then he sounded like he tried to convince himself that it wasn't his fault. At least that is what the voice acting sounded like to me...or maybe it sounded different to me than it did for you in the German version. From Germany here, so now I wonder if the German VA made the scene sound different than the English VA. Huh. That would make the German version better. xD I liked that line, because it sounded like he was shocked and sputtered out some weak excuse.
The setup for the twist was absolutely amazing. The deliberate choice to leave Hector’s face out of the picture and to have him wear the same suit as Ernesto, the guitar, the similarities between him and Miguel, even that montage of them interacting. Then to reveal him to be a cold blooded murderer who sacrificed his own best friend for fame and fortune was just- It SHOOK me man.
Technically Syndrome is still a twist villain bc the “twist” was that his company turned out to be against supers. Much like King Candy/Turbo, the “reveal” is more abt his identity than his intentions. His character didn’t flip on a dime like many twist villains, but I’d still classify him as one. At least a distant cousin
I really like Big Hero 6 despite the failed villain tho. I love the characters, the setting is stunning, and the gadgets are super neat!!! Imo, one way they could've fixed Callahan was to make him seem like he wasn't all there when he was introduced. Hiro would be confused/ concerned about it and Tadashi would explain he wasn't the same after loosing his daughter, but he was never told how the daughter died. That would make his psychopathy more of an understood fact and less out of the blue. And maybe some more stuff about his past just to add a little more weight and have Abigail's death really be a snapping point. One example is, we never hear about Callahan's wife, what happened to her? Maybe whatever happens results in Callahan being overprotective of his daughter and her assumed death be a snapping point for him. Thats all i got, thank you for reading my dumb little rant :))
Hans irritates me on several levels, largely because he is *incredibly* easy to fix. Like, pick a lane, either he's a villain the whole time and drop a few hints that he's a tad questionable, or he's not the villain and what him and Anna have isn't love, its just simple attraction. He can even still be the antagonist after the second option! After seeing that the kiss doesn't work, he goes to try and kill Elsa because he thinks its the only way to save Anna and the kingdom. There, now you have your physical threat if you need it. Done. Zootopia has the same issue. So easy to fix, like... one scene does it.
I'm not a fan of the songs generally anyway. That first third or so of Frozen is so musical it's pretty much an opera and I don't like it. But they could always do a villain song when the twist is revealed. That's no more stupid than the placement of any other song.
When he said “Choo-choo Muntz”, I questioned when “Choo-choo Charles” had been released, and if this was an accidental foreshadowing. (Also, Disney and Pixar have actually become the same company. 4:16.)
Mother Gothel's is my favorite "twist" villain, because she was always the villain, using manipulation and gaslighting before she was even revealed to Rapunzel. Most other twist villains are "Haha I'm the villain now!"
How to pinpoint a Disney twist villain: 1) Notice the nice but useless character is getting more screentime than a useless but nice character needs. 2) Wait the entire movie for the reveal.
The thing that makes me mad about Hans being a twist villain is that... that plan wouldn't work. Royalty doesn't work that way. If a monarch dies, it goes to the next BLOOD relative, not the monarch's spouse. To make it worse, being royalty himself, HANS SHOULD KNOW THIS. Nothing about Hans being evil makes sense.
Except that in this time period, the kingdom is passed down to the king. If there is no king in said bloodline, then to the queen. But should the Queen marry, all of a sudden that power goes to the spouse. Also, Elsa was in exile, and Anna was thought dead. So, Anna was acting queen, making Hans acting King.
One thing I have to say about Screenslaver that even CinemaWins pointed out. The whole thing about making supers legal wasn’t controversial, as the goal was to make them illegal forever, and tricking people into thinking the supers only helped to make them legal would be helpful for the plan due to them endangering world ambassadors and civilians when the hydrofoil was headed to the city.
The trolls in frozen would’ve made a better twist villain than Hans. Hans seemed to genuinely care for Anna and if he kissed her than he would’ve gotten the throne anyways since Elsa never intended on coming back. His sudden snap made no sense to me. The only way Hans could have ended up like that was the possibility that he ran into the trolls on the way back to Arendelle and the trolls learned he was headed there. Then they used their magic to wipe his memory and make him an evil slave to make room for the trolls to take over the kingdom.
as a quote I once found on pintrest said, "A good twist villian doesn't trick the audicene. A good twist villian enhances the story and adds to the narrative."
I think a good villain can even trick or let's say, "challenge" the audience but definitely not like these twist characters shown in the video. I.e. let's show that the character is evil but also in some parts seems to be good or their motives are controvertial - not like here where a good character suddenly turns out to be a villain "just like that", from 0 to 100 in one second.
Lydia Hanger Yes but we're talking about kid movies. Let's leave those confusing villains to the ones who can identify who's in the wrong without being told
@@suwenxxer I believe in kids movies we can have not-so-obvious villains, too. The example of Syndrome proves it, he has some good reasons to be mad at the MC and kids can get it. And he's cool with cool gadgets, it's hard to really not like him. Of cource such character should be easy enough to figure out - kids can get a good life lessons by judging such characters on screen, like "don't trust every nice person, they may want to hurt you", easy stuff like that. And parents could always talk with their kids and explain things if there are some doubts, another good occasion for them to learn something new and to share their opinions - and a good time for these parents to shape their kids' beliefes in a correct direction.
I absolutely knew that he was gonna dunk on one of the movies after that little monologue at the end there XD, although i thought it would have been big hero 6 rather than the good dinosaur
"twist" villians are rly good when you already know theyre an enemy. When they already straddle that line, it doesn't feel forced or disappointing, but it's still exciting. Like someone else said, Mother Gothel is a great example. She's not a twist villian to us, but she is to the characters. And she's a really good and realistic villian: degrading and disrespecting rapunzel throughout the entirety of the film, until she finally goes full cruelty and puts rapunzel in chains.
This line of thinking reminds me of something Alfred Hitchcock said. If you let the audience see the bomb under the table without the characters seeing it, the tension in the scene goes waaay up.
That's pretty much been my thoughts about twists. If the point is to surprise the audience, as soon as they guess/hear about it, its kinda pointless. If the twist has like an effect on the world and stuff, then if it's good, it'll be interesting to watch it play out regardless of if anyone guessed it.
19:21 oh my god that would have been refreshing. They make a bad guy to prop up the Supers again because they want the Supers back. Of course we as the audience would want Supers to be legal again so they dont have to hide, but I dont think a lot of people would want to fabricate crimes to do that. Why did I never watch this video to completion before?
I agree with everthing u said, except Callaghan. You are right, he was very obvious. However, I disagree about his supposedly dumb motivation and purpose in the movie. Big Hero 6 is about grief and how to deal with it and Callaghan represents a selfdestructive way of dealing with gief. The way he handles the loss of his daughter is the opposite of Hero´s way. In the scene where Hero removes Baymax´s healing-chip, he nearly becomes like Callaghan, which should show that the two are very similiar and deal with the same emotions. But in the end he overcomes it by thinking what his brother would have wanted. This is a thought Callaghan can´t do, because in his mind his daughter is gone and he wants is revenge against the one person, he thinks is responsable. We can argue about the way it was executed, but the main idea is a good one in my opinion. And also, I thought the plan of the screenslaver from Incredibles 2 was logical. She saw that people started to like superheros again, plus in the past they were only outlawed, because of property damages and not some horific actions. She wanted the people to hate and outlaw superheroes forever, so she helped her brother to get the peoples hopes up and shatter them with every possibility of rehabilitating the image of super heroes ever again. Again, it´s about grief and the motivation of blaming someone for the loss of a person. I think that makes sense, but it´s honestly debatable.
I just hate the fact that both movies share the same type of plot twist where the person they’re working for ends up being the villain they’re fighting against
Biggest Disney Twist Villain Cliche:
“You won’t get away with this”
“I already have”
IKR!!!!
i really unironically love that line tho
YES!!!!
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Hans is typing...
Hans did have a pretty horrible plan
*tHat wAs hiS miStAkE*
that mistake was his!
that was his steak!
😋😋Steak sounds good
With BBQ sauce and side chicken 😋
VelociraptorGamer YT and mashed potatoes
Why you bring elsa back
Why you save elsa
Or better yet why don't you just let her stay then tell auna she wants to stay and it fir the best.
wow, I did not expect to make dinner.
He roasted Disney so hard that Disney stopped making villains entirely.
On god
LMAO!!! 😂
LMFAO
Disney : We love our villains!
Disney channel : We made the villains have children!
Disney plus : We made a short about it!
Pixar : We made twist villains!
Modern dis nee : *What villains?*
THEEEEEN HE ROASTED THEM FOR NOT HAVING ANY VILLAINS
What I despise most about twist villains is that, without properly earning the twist, it just teaches us to be suspicious of human kindness.
That’s true unfortunately. A lot assume you are fake for being kind and showing sympathy. Obviously it’s dangerous to use that as a personality to deceive people but I do feel like us humans lack compassion towards each other 🤷🏽♀️
"Because of you, Olaf actually has plot relevance, and that makes me mad!"
Olaf is going to be the villain in Frozen 2
@@spcatg1316
Let it goooooooo let it gooooo
i rewatched the movie a month ago, and it was good. I hate Olaf though
Your profile picture is awesome
Olaf is a cinnamon roll
i hate how every single Disney's twist villain's personalities do a complete 180° turnaround
So its a twist
@@santiagobarreraruiz7280 damn it
Exactly, if I were an evil supervillain that planned to exploit animal racism to get what I wanted then I simply wouldn't have the patience to act nice all the time for almost no reason
Zypper
Yes- why couldn’t they make a scene where lamb girl complains about her job with the MCs but says “ I’m trying to stay positive because in the end it will be worth it” before MCs can question it lamb is already gone
@@NameName-yj7lp that would actually be a really cool detail yea :0
Big Hero 6 could have been a bit better if Callaghan had a moment of shock after he was told Tadashi died. He seemed to genuinely care about Tadashi at first.
And if early in the movie it was revealed that other man who "killed" Abgail actually was the cause of the fire, even if it was accidental, and Callaghan be like "one more reason to get revenge >:("
Y’all should’ve written big hero 6
Wait, hold up, didn't he? I remember the movie like this: Found out that the brother died because he tried to save him and then the villain being in shock, before blurting out that it was the brother's own fault. Kinda deflecting blame.
Or maybe that is what the German voice actors did. Hard to tell if it is different in the English version as I haven't seen it.
@@hoppa_2184 i really don't remember but even if it was in the actual movie, that line really ruined it
Even the infamous "That was his mistake" could be the slightest bit impactful if directed properly. Have Callaghan react in shock, but silently consider the scene before him and his lifegoal for a few seconds, harden his heart and his expression, and boom. "That was his mistake." You can make a character irredeemable while also having them portray actual brain activity and emotion.
To be honest, I would count Syndrome more as a villain rather than a twist villain, with the prologue of the movie being pretty much part of his backstory.
That’s how I always viewed Syndrome
Yeah I think this video is too loose with the definition of a twist villain
Yeah syndrome isn't really a "twist villain"
Syndrome was also set up with Mirage speaking to a mysterious figure who's also her boss earlier in the movie.
Well Syndrome is just a villain with a twist attached to him, he is pretty clearly introduced as a villain, although the mysterious employer being evil isn't stated, we just know something is going on, the twist is that it's Buddy, someone that idolized supers, in particular Mr. Incredible.
This is why whenever a new Disney movie comes out, we're like “oh boy, which one of these seemingly good characters is gonna be the villain now?”
As bland as Ralph Breaks the Internet was, I'll give it credit for not really having a "villain".
*_Moana has entered the chat_*
Scooby doo
Maybe they should just reveal who killed BAMBI'S mom
Giggity King We know who killed Bambi’s mom: Man.
I really like Coco’s twist villain because as far as Ernesto knows, that’s still his grandkid and he’s totally willing to fucking kill him because it suits him. Wack.
He only decided to kill Miguel because he exposed him and that he killed hector for his music. Ernesto had a huge reputation when he was alive and he still kept that reputation even in death and he wasn’t about to let the grandkid of his friend tell everyone he was a murderer all along
@@ps4pro668 I mean,, yeah. That’s what I said lol
@@ps4pro668 I just didn’t include all the details
I saw hector being miguel's ancestor a mile away but didn't see the ernesto twist coming. the fact that he would willingly kill his descendant (at the time he still thought miguel is) is so chilling and his motives create such a tragic outcome for miguel's family
@@phuongbach3864 I feel like there's a possibility that Ernesto knew Miguel wasn't his descendant, but instead just used him to gain more popularity. I don't know, it seems plausible
If Han said something like “She’s the one” at the beginning of the movie instead of just smiling it could’ve hinted that she was the one he was after. And if they added more ‘hints’ that could be interpreted as foreshadowing in a second watch the twist would make more sense.
I quite agree.
Disney, you need to READ through your scripts before animating. THAT IS WHY MOVIE SCRIPTS EXIST.
Same. Honestly I think Hans would’ve worked better as a villain if he was the type where you knew he’s a bad person but most of the characters don’t until he reveals to them.
Nah, just have Hans explain to Anna that he’s kinda a spare at home and maybe have him become angrily frustrated for a moment before Anna calms him down. Have him become instantly cheerful again afterwards, hinting that he’s putting on an act. Maybe have him ask her a bunch about Elsa and kinda dismiss Anna at first? Like, he wants to befriend Anna through his backstory so that he can get close to the reclusive Queen, but he dismisses Anna’s romantic talk because he wants the throne, not a Princess. You could have him go after Elsa until it’s revealed that she has powers, at which point he latched onto Anna and even went after Elsa with her. You could show his facade breaking throughout the movie.
Later on, have him go more in-depth to his backstory as he reveals that he doesn’t love Anna. He wants a throne and he can’t get one at home, so he wanted Elsa’s instead. After Elsa was a flop, he decided to tag along to get rid of Elsa while securing Anna and playing the brave hero. That would make his betrayal that much more stinging.
They did a great job with Turbo/King Candy. For all the reasons you mentioned, but also because due to him already being a pretty obvious villain, you kind of just... don't expect the huge plot Twist of him actually being Turbo. King Candy being the villain and therefore the obstacle is already established, so to have that EXTRA amazing reveal is fantastic.
Agreed, you think you might already know, and you suspect the movie is done throwing curveballs at you. But it's not
It's like Syndrome, how we know he's clearly the antagonist, but his backstory slams into you like Mr. Incredible through a window.
They should make a movie called “Twist” that has ZERO plot twists, that’s the plot twist, there isn’t anything you don’t expect
gotta admit, i wouldnt expect that
But If the plot twist is that it has no twists then that means it has twists but if it has twists that means that not having plot twists is no longer a plot twist... AHHHHHH
@Jayismagic twistception?
@@dy-or4pc thats very twisty
Give me a couple weeks and my team will make a shitty movie
When you got to zootopia , I was like, “shoot, who was the villain again?”.
Im not gonna lie I actually did like Bellweather, her voice actor did a great job and Id say she’s a good twist, just not a good villian.
Some Lesbian honestly I think the real problem with that character is that she doesn't really show up until near the end.
Zoe Strope Yep and the ending felt pretty rushed.
@@louminouz Yeah, her character feels kinda forced by the subtle nods at being viewed as a lowly secretary who caters to a carnivore with authority. Although it's something, it's really not the strongest case for her turn into a fascist looking to incarcerate all carnivores.
Boi Loop Agreed. Her motivation couldve been something better other than shes just racist.
I think the reason why Hans is not a good twist villain because I believe his ORIGINAL character wasn't supposed to be a villain, it was supposed to be ELSA. The whole plot just got changed because of "Let It Go" and they tried so hard to bring back Elsa as a good person and let Hans become the bad guy. They changed the whole original plot all of a sudden because of one song and it made the quality of the story go down. But that's just my opinion :/
Pretty much. They remade the plot to make Elsa an antihero but didn't actually change enough of it to move away from the final confrontation (where in the older drafts Elsa would've been defeated there to fulfill a prophecy).
That's one of the reasons I don't like Let It Go very much. Because it basically destroyed what could have been a truly good movie.
@@artbytesiaand because of the numerous people who won't stop singing this for days
@@AllenTheAnimator004 That too. Why they do, I have no idea. It can't be just because of Idina Menzel, because she's made several other songs that are actually good (do I need to mention Defying Gravity?). And it can't be just because it's about self-empowerment, because there are several other songs, from Disney and other artists, that have that same theme (Go the Distance from Hercules, for example). So why do people love Let It Go so much?!
@@artbytesiaI don't know it sounds good
The great thing about King Candy, what makes him work so well as a twist villain, is you could have made him not be a villain without changing anything about his motives, personality, or any of the events of the movie up to the reveal. You could have played him straight where he's the eccentric, if a bit crabby and out-of-place, Willy-Wonka-style ruler of Sugar Rush, who was only defensive toward Ralph because he genuinely did fear the guy was going Turbo, and who genuinely was trying to keep Vanellope from racing so she didn't threaten the game world and herself. The movie could have had them team up to fight the Cybugs, ended with her winning the race to his horror, the gamers loving her for her glitching ability, him learning he was wrong, and the three of them walking of into the sunset holding hands each having learned a valuable lesson. That would have been a perfectly natural ending. So it makes perfect sense that Ralph actually trusts him enough to sabotage Vanellope's cart and leave, with it only being pure luck that he learns he's been lied to.
also, the audience more or less understands that king candy is being deceptive or at least wrong
Not gonna lie, the Hans reveal flipped my shit as an 11 year old
Comic Chaos I can remember watching this movie around 14 times with my cousin a few years ago and EVERY TIME we’d be surprised at the reveal of Hans.
I was 10 when I first saw it and went to the bathroom came back and was confused why Hans was trying to kill Elsa
InsertName I’m dead
Yas same!!! Being the Naive 6 year old I was I was just like "But Wait isent he the good guy!?" And I still love the reveal scene to this day!
You know if they just keep making twist villains, then they might as well reveal who killed BAMBI and TOD's mothers.
shout out to Tangled for getting the point of a twist villain across without actually making Gothel a twist villain
What... do you mean getting the point of a twist villian? You said yourself gothel wasnt a twist villian.
@@louminouz she was to rapunzel
The supposed point of a twist villain is that looks can be deceiving and bad people don't always go about boasting about how evil they are.
Mother Gothel gets this across because while RAPUNZEL trusts her, the AUDIENCE knows that she's actually the villain. The twist isn't for you, it's for Rapunzel
Paulik Shmaulik ah yes that makes sense. Tho actual twist villians in theory are also meant to shock the audience. Gothel may have the concept of a twist done right (aka bad people dont announce how evil they are) shes not exactly a fair example since shes not really a twist villian.
@@louminouz I wonder if OP is trying to say that Gothel is a star example of having a *complex* villain without resorting to her being a *twist* villain. Gothel is obviously evil without being cartoonish villainous. She's also a great example of a strong FEMALE villain, because she achieves villainy through her feminine attributes (maternal manipulation and such).
what would have been even more intriguing, is if gothel had just waited, and approached The king and queeen and explained the situation, referencing the fact that the flower is hers, and that it was found with a basket near it. i wonder how that would go down. because the king anand queen didnt know gothel was the kidnapper, she wouldve had a clean slate to attempt reason
when i watched frozen as a kid, i didn't even realise hans was the villain 😭 whenever i thought of who the villain was, i just thought, "wait wasn't elsa the villain?"
Honestly though. They didn't even really need Hans to be the villain. Elsa was the main conflict the entire time. They should've just focused on her.
She was originally going to be the villain until the people working on the film heard Let it Go for the first time and they were totally mesmerized by it, so they rewrote her to be a heroine.
Also if Disney just wanted a villain to make this harder for the protagonists then why not have the Duke of Weselton since he's already trying to kill Elsa
@Memopithecus To "subvert expectations" by making the Disney Prince the villain rather than some old nobleman.
@@galten7361Newsflash, though: Shrek 2 did that first!
I was completely baffled by Waternoose's twist villain though, throughout half of the movie he's seen as desperate to help charge the city. But all the other monsters suck and aren't scary and he just seemed like the protagonist because of how friendly he came off and how much of a father figure he acted towards Sullivan. But the twist of how he became so desperate that he would've kidnapped 1000 children to keep the businesses going, is a complete twist to me. And even though he was a twist villain, he still, kept his father figure-ish personality saying that Sullivan was better than Randall. And another thing monsters inc did was add a main villain AKA Randall so you wouldn't expect Waternoose to be the main one since disney hasn't done that a lot and theirs normally one main villain throughout any disney movie. (idk it makes since why Waternoose was a good twist villain to me)
I feel like Hans would have been a better end-of-the-movie villain if he was trying to kill Elsa to save Anna instead
That would’ve been too complicated for all of the 8 year olds to grasp. Too controversial for the market. It’s a good idea though
Maybe if it was intended for an older audience
That would have been great yeah much better thank what they had done now
And about the "too complicated for children" argument: I don't think so. It's not a difficult concept. What they did now was too complicated, I was 13 when Frozen came out and when Hans did a full 180 I didnt even understand what was happening. Children aren't super stupid, they can understand a lot of 'difficult' concepts
If Hans had kissed Anna and it didn't work bc it just wasnt true love Hans goes like "maybe true love wasn't the key, but maybe killing Elsa will safe you"
Since Anna knows the trolls said true love would help, she's against it and hes like "Anna, this clearly didn't work. Stay here until I've taken care of this" and locked her in bc even if it isn't true love, he likes her a lot and is desperate to safe her. She's all like no and yk like in the movies tries to get out and no one hears her. Then the movie just progresses like it did before just with slightly different dialogue.
(Olaf: "what about Hans?"
Anna: "That wasn't true love. It didn't work")
(Elsa: "where's Anna?"
Hans: "she's dying because of you")
And then obviously Anna saves Elsa and the spell is broken. Hans wasn't just evil, he had been desperate to safe Anna and everything would have made more sense.
Now it just kinda felt like Disney was like "hmm we like Kristoff better lets get Hans out of the way" but Hans turning evil out of nowhere just didn't work
@@fovos7359 Then why did Kristoff have to end up with anna at the end? Doesn't elsa already fulfill that role?
@@fovos7359 wow this comment was cringe. I wish you worded it better.
I forgot the sheep was the antagonist in zootopia. I even forgot that she existed
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Seriously tho, what even is its name?
Same.
@@bigb3598 I think it was a pun
I just remember zootopia is the movie that furries love
Bryan Neblett *Assistant Mayor Bellweather
This video is the source for so much of Schaffrillas running jokes, video tone, and general style and flair. It's such a fun watch with so many great lines and really good points.
I think it was my first Schaffrillas video, and it definitely is the purest of his entire channel in terms of encapsulating his style.
Same, probably my first vid of his and a great one to revisit as a Schaffrillas fan
Actually Rourke from Atlantis: The Lost Empire was the first Disney twist villain. The difference is that he's actually a good villain unlike Hans.
Lyell did his part so well.
Rourke was doing what was normal for society and even what the hero Milo was doing - plundering dead civilizations (and some living ones as well) for valuables and curiousities. The twist works because Milo learned that it was wrong and harmful to take the Heart away, whereas Rourke not only doubles down on his greed, but he already about the Heart before Milo and withheld the information, and may have known that the Atlanteans were still alive and brought all his weapons along.
Didn't expect that option.
Hold up! Tarzan did it before Atlantis with Clayton.
Trash take
Wreck it Ralph 2 was just Disney being like “LOOK AT ALL THIS COOL SHIT WE OWN, LOOOOOOOOOOOOL”
As well as "Hey! We're relevant to the youth, you know! We know EXACTLY about their digital culture!"
R/fellowkids
*H O W D O Y O U D O F E L L O W K I D S ?*
I loved the first one. Went in expecting the sequel to be mediocre but enjoyable. Was not expecting it to be flat-out awful and cringy. When your movie can be compared to the emoji move, you've made some bad decisions on a fundamental level.
Am I the only one who noticed that this came from CinemaSins?
He partake,
He awake,
But most importantly...
*THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE*
lol
He burn at the stake
He cool like milkshake
But most importantly
That was his mistake
Im the 420 like bois
@@imnotputtingmyname2926 nice man
omg that played in the video as soon as I clicked read more lol
The thing that annoys me the most about twist villiains, is the fact so many writers think a twist villain can only be the main villian.
I think twist villains work better when there a minion because it will ensure that their can still be a consistent threat throughout a story.
If I recall, Muppets Most Wanted did something like that, and did it well!
@@artbytesiaI love Damien Badguy so much!
Agreed. A twist villain makes a great right hand man.
Like for example the dwarf guy from the movie "Unicorn Academy"
I've watched Transformers enough over the years to adore the backstabbing second-in-command trope.
The reason syndrome as a twist villain work so well is because you watch him gradually change. Also he has real motivations for being a villain
Syndrome is Disney’s most realistic villain, don’t @ me
What movie is it from though
@@alexhernandez7597 its from the MOVIE "incredibles" lol
He was acting up after Bob refused to make him a sidekick with him going on to target all superheroes.
There’s only one reason why twist villains don’t work:
NO VILLAIN SONGS!
*be prepared intensifies*
@@xexpaguette Technically Scar isn't a twist villain though
@@markulyssestabasan3064 the song is still beautiful
@@xexpaguette Absolutely.
I made the like 300. Now the villain from the movie 300 needs a villain song. He's enigmatic enough for one.
"Because of you, Olaf actually has plot relevance and that makes me mad."
Idk y everyone hates olaf and JarJarBings.
@@gergelyritter9599 Cause they're bad characters?
Jacob Worthington to be fair, Olaf gets a great song in Frozen 2
Jacob Worthington I’m ur 600th like
@Gergely Ritter, man my least favorite Star Wars character *Jar Jar Bings.*
I liked Hans but after the Villain Twist I was sad what they did with his character
I thought Hans was cheesy and corny but still kind of a cute character, then the twist happened and I wanted him to die desperately
“look at how they massacred my boy”
Hans and Chelsea from Ruby Gillman… two twist villains that were actually cool and likable but then got screwed over because “those weren’t their true personalities”.
Otto is one of my favorite villains due simply to the fact he's an accurately depiction of a robot. He was following his programming and still obeyed the laws of robotics. Namely making sure he doesn't get anyone hurt. By letting the people free they'd die.
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as a kid, king candy’s “twist” was horrifying. seeing him switch back and forward between his king “form” to his racer “form” gave me nightmares for at least a week.
SAME HERE BRUH THANK GOD I AINT THE ONLY ONE 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
It was really creepy
Weak sauce 😂
I felt bad for moths why because Maybe they are trying not to go into the light but they just can't resist it
me too
"Zootopia's villain is the worst ever"
Me: *wait they had a villain?*
The real twist villain was the Mandela effect
I actually loved that movie so much. The sheep being the main villain....eh, but I loved it way too much to be put off by that.
Fr, I was baffled when I heard the sheep lady was the villain. What a forgettable villain
The true villain un zootopia is polític.
*LIKE THE REAL LIFE*
My only gripe about Zootopia is the villain. A perfect movie turned into a great movie because of that.
My favorite twist villain is waternoose because his motivations are so consistent and so understandable that a determined devils advocate could honestly argue in favor of his plan. They’d be obviously wrong, but its ambiguous enough to be almost scary
I like that hes not “evil.” He’s just under a lot of pressure to keep his company in business. Children are becoming harder to scare the traditional way and this fact is threatening his company and the entire area that relies on it for power. He’s not an evil mastermind. He’s just a desperate businessman forced to do some questionable stuff to keep the company alive
What also makes the twist villain in Monsters Inc so great, is how it manages to fool us with something that should be blatantly obvious from the start. Like no duh the head of the company employing monsters to traumatize children for means of producing electricity (something the film frames as something of a neccessary evil, which in the end turns out to have been not neccessary at all) turned out to be villainous, but because our POV are duo of company's star employees benefitting from the status quo and one of whom is friends with the boss, it takes an escalation in the name of corporate interest for us to recognize something's not right.
Plus like James said he genuinely didn’t want to banish Sully and Mike and actually cared about them
It really wasn’t personal, just business
i actually think hans would make a good king. anytime he's with the people or the court of the country, he is clearly a leader. when anne leaves to find elsa, he takes charge, he cares for the people, and when the two sisters are gone he takes care of the country in eternal winter just fine. _of course_ he tried to kill elsa, he thinks she's a bad person who has terrifying supernatural powers and cast eternal winter over the country and made snow monsters. i think he would've actually made a good husband for anna, they really had chemistry at the start. i also think neither of the sisters were emotionally or mentally available to rule a country at the start. i don't know, the direction they took with their characters just feel really forced.
this makes great points! justice for hans!
It's been almost a year.
WHERE IS THE 1 HOUR TAMATOA REVIEW?!?!?!?!?
Edit: IT's BEEN OVER 2 YEARS AND HE STILL HASN'T MADE THAT 1 HOUR TAMATOA REVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no I want for the 10 hour one
Quidgybo THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE!!
actually it would be a 69 HOUR with only Hatf of TAMATOA's TRUE POWER
You can't rush art-
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DIdn't they rewrite Frozen at the last minute and that's why they had to suddenly make Hans a villian, which is why there's no indication of him being a villian beforehand?
Apparently. Originally it was supposed to be elsa but i dont know why though.
@@SetSeth-yl6ke Well Frozen was based on the snow queen and in the story Freya (elsa was based on) was evil.
@@Mcsilvergamer3D huh....more you know
@@SetSeth-yl6ke I am sorry I got it wrong freya was from snow white in the huntsman but, she was based on the snow queen.
@@Mcsilvergamer3D but test audience (or was it the executives) was pissed about it if not mistaken
disney could’ve made elsa struggle with grief and wanting to be accepted, so the let it go sequence would actually make sense, but she doesn’t actually know *how* to use her powers in order to feel free, so the whole time she spends at the ice castle she resents her parents for making her hide her powers thus making her unable to fully explore them and control them when needed. we could’ve had a similar « spiraling into madness » case as jinx does in arcane, since they have similar core needs that aren’t met, leading them to feeling frustrated, hurt and misunderstood. the fact that elsa mistakingly and unknowingly casted an eternal winter that she doesn’t know how to undo could’ve been a great way to enhance the resentment she feels towards her parents and the shame that comes with it would explain any aggressive/defensive behavior she could’ve exhibited. keep in mind that i’m going for the original snowqueen story, hence why all the elements of disney’s story should act as catalysts for her becoming a villain. anyway, elsa freezes her sister’s heart and learns later that she’d died from it, after hans tried in fact to kiss her but failed to undo the curse and lashing out at anna who suffers a slow, painful and very tragic death. hans then does in fact try to kill elsa for obvious reasons, nit that he actually loved anna but in order to make a good impression on the people and hopefully being seen as a good replacement king. he then goes on to blame elsa for her sister’s death and basically everyone just blames her making her feel extremely cornered in a situation where she has yet to process the fact that her sister died. she could then breakdown or lash out hurting/killing many pol in the process, because she CAN’T CONTROL HER POWER and ends up feeling like shit, being even more hated and feared, and after running away to another location, where she builds a new castle that would LOOK like someone who just lived through a horrible event built it, trying to recollect herself and process things, but every time she does that she breaks down so her only coping mechanism is to repress whatever emotions she is feeling as to not cast an endless winter on the whole entire world, but add to that all the nightmares, hallucinations of all the ppl she knew, creepy shadows and the voice from the second movie which could’ve been A HUGE contribution to her slow madness spiral, then ppl could try hunting her down again which only increases her anxiety and fear of hurting others and ends up hurting ppl in the process…but like elsa never actually worked on her emotions or processed any of them then at some point she could just, accept that she is the bad guy after all, and that she wants to discover her powers so she doesn’t care what happens after all, which worsens the winter and makes more and more ppl hate her and go after her. then you’d have a somewhat close replica to the original snow queen, plus some badly managed trauma responses and symptoms. she’d then start doing whatever she wants on impulse and doesn’t care about the consequences anymore, basically your typical villain that couldn’t been avoided have some ppl kept their mouths shut. imagine if after a while, elsa stops being scared of the voice from the second movie and tries finding out who it is, but instead of the closure she gets in the original sequel, this time all of her trauma resurfaces forcing her to face it but instead of working that out but she doesn’t like that so she destroys the cave thing etc…i can see why disney couldn’t adapt this for a kid’s movie
Damn. Amazing story plot, but not really a kids movie. Great idea though, you should be a writer :D
@@mylw4387 Tim Burton would love this plot
Bro wrote a whole essay 💀
Tf u took an hour to write that
A+ on the essay *clap* *clap* *clap*
Wait, if else can’t control her powers, how she build an ice castle on command?
I’m so glad you turned “that was his mistake” into a meme
Syndrome wasn’t a twist villain, we just got to see his backstory first
But we didn't know he'll come back as a main villain
He still was a twist villain
Yeah but most of his examples are important characters that "twist" towards the end. We didn't see him as a "good guy" throughout the film like the rest of the villains. He just shows up later.
Yeah that’s true, he was never presented as a good guy.
Some twist villians are good. Up villian was decent in my opinion, so is Quite a few.
Actually, they did throw in the “Hans is a villain” plot twist in at the last minute, Elsa was supposed to be the villain originally
They should have kept that so we didn’t get the frozen 2 disaster
Cartoon Judge! C.G. Wow. Holy crap. Idiot at Disney
Cartoon Judge! C.G. What was Frozen based on?
The should’ve kept that, that would’ve made a more interesting movie. And she’s more of a twist villain than Hans
ꕥ Icestorm ꕥ Frozen was based on a book called “The Snow Queen” and it was written by Hans Christian Andersen
I remember trying to justify Hans as a twist villain by discovering the very details of why he is written this way and it kind of works.
But the fact that I needed to really observe the story and make an explanation out of obscure and over-looked/under-played details in the first place is just really bullshit on itself.
No it doesn't work. Hans had nothing tangible to win by killing both sisters without marrying one.
Yep. All Hans had to do was let the crossbow hit Elsa and the end.
Line of succession held, winter is over because the caster is dead.
So why didn’t he? Bad writing and a huge plot hole.
18:20 I think what she was trying to do was KEEP superheroes illegal. Winston was getting close to relegalizing superheroes. She couldn't just make a superhero fail at their job, because someone would succeed somewhere else. Making them revolt would keep anyone from ever wanting to do it again.
It would have been better if she wanted to control all superheroes for herself as a standing army.
"Everyone's got dead people, that's no reason to be a dick." That's deep, bro.
I thought that was actually kinda cruel
I technically own euthanized incerinated animal
@@pogobod2128 Me too.
@@pogobod2128 _shit went from 0 to 100 real fucking quick_
Its true tho-
(This comment was written by someone who lost their mom 3 years ago-)
I desperately want to be this guy’s neighbour and just randomly hear him yell “OH BOOHOO MY DAUGHTER IS DEAD!!!!” with no context
THAT WAS HIS M I S T A K E
E K A T S I M S I H
S A W T A H T
omg yas
@@grandmacrinkle8094 💀💀💀😭😭😭😂😂😂
*”I DONT CARE IF ITS MEAN EVERYONES GOT DEAD PEOPLE, THATS NO EXCUSE TO BE A
F U C K I N G D I C K”*
I said this on another video: how was Callaghan able to build a portal using the microbots if he most likely didn’t know how to build a portal from memory? If the microbots are like a genie that can build literally anything you want, he could make a “god machine” that makes himself basically God, letting him take over the universe, subject Krei to incomprehensible pain, and bring his…daughter…back yeah you see the problem here?
He salvaged the parts from the test site.
Hes also a well known engineer, so he probably would know what steps to do to fix it, especially if he had it planned out beforehand
@@starrysymphonies Yeah, that’s a good point. Though, Cray’s experiment was the first portal ever made in that world, so I don’t see how Callaghan would know how to build the portal from scratch by himself.
I’m surprised that no one mentioned the bowler hat guy from Meet the Robinsons. That movie is so underrated and, in my opinion, a good plot twist villain
william joyce stories my beloved 💞 do you like rise of the guardians too?
My mom said she always suspected Hans would be a villain since he said "I have 12 older brothers, two of which pretended I was invisible, literally, for years." Which is about the only indication that he might be a bad guy, but it's there and at least someone picked up on it, because I didn't.
i guess if u have a bunch of siblings it would be easier to see where his angst comes from
@@iwakeupandboomimarat Even though he's a prince, he has so many older siblings that he'll never inherit anything from his parents. He'll be lucky if he's even allowed to stay in the castle if one of his meaner brothers claims the Throne.
I guessed from the lyrics- he wasn’t singing about her he was singing about his ‘place’
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I guessed from when he sung that song with Anna. I had just finished watching some film theory so my senses were on high alert and when I noticed that him and Anna weren't in full sync during the song I thought he might have alternative motives and was just letting Anna hear whatever she wanted to. watching film theory makes me overanalyze whatever I watch after it.
Apart from the twist villain, I actually like Big Hero 6. The person at Disney who made that decision may have ruined the ending to that movie, but...
That was his mistake
Me too, I really like the suits and techology employed
take my like and get out
Now THAT is a good reference
i think they learned from yokai being a terrible villain bc he actually tries to redeem himself in the now cancelled series, and the series itself focuses on new but much better villains
i wake up and boom im a rat As a fan of the series, I can indeed verify this statement. Obake and Di were way better villains than Callaghan, my personal fave being Obake.
The fact that one of Disney's biggest blockbuster (Frozen) has one of Disney's worst villain is crazy.
The biggest problem with Pixar in recent years is that Disney has slowly absorbed as much of it as it can into it's own toxic company culture.
Disney isn't doing too hot recently with almost everything creative endeavor, and you can see the rot spreading to Pixar slowly over time.
Elsa from Frozen was originally supposed to be the villain in the movie. When creators and/or directors decided to make the movie more on sisterly love because they thought it would be a more compelling and heartwarming story, they made Hans the villain at the last minute and created Kristoff. Anna was supposed to be with Hans and since Hans was now the villain the creators and/or directors created Kristoff because "Anna had to have a love interest."
yesss this comment should get more attention!
Wow that would've made much more interesting movie! And it'll be more like Hans Christian's Snow Queen too
There could be some sort of subtle sister love but she can still be villain
it seems weird to me anna got a love interest instead of elsa, turns out anna is the main character in the frozen instead of elsa
As a kid I got more of a sense that elsa was the villain and not hans. I mean her parents neglected her and isolated her. They reacted to her powers by trying to cover it up and put on a fake smile. They let fear control them. Maybe they should have allowed her to practice her power in secret and still live a normal life. So then she wouldn't hate her parents and become a villain because nobody seemed to accept her as a child. But somehow she managed to pull through all that, nothing short of a miracle. Because it doesn't seem likely.
One thing I found interesting about Inside Out is that I predicted Bing Bong to be the villain as soon as I saw him. He just had that vibe about him.
But then..."Take her to the moon for me..."
NylaTheWolf He was supposed to be the villain in that movie
@@IcyDiamond Really? Not surprised
Same! I thought he was the villain from the beginning, so when he died and still wasn’t the villain I wasn’t even affected by his death because I never made a good connection with him since I thought he was gonna be evil
Bing Bong just doesn’t look like an outright good guy,I really failed to see the villain vibe on him
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17:34 i suppose he just wanted for the public to think he was dead and hiro's invention was destroyed in the process as well, so nobody would suspect him to be a masked guy nor looking for him and nanobots idk
John Lasseter was a textbook example of a twist villain.
The worst part about Hans being a villain is that he had a way greater and more organic relationship with Anna than Kristof did
I've watched enough shitty romcoms to know that useless bickering=chemistry.
Honestly yes. She and anna are more like akward besties.
@@cyancyborg1477 LITERALLY
Uh, yes?????? Honestly when I saw Anna and Kristof together as a kid I immediately thought "oh no"
Like c'mon.
Hans.
Yea.. Bickering tends to be better chemistry for freinds then relationships
I actually believe that the trolls made Hans evil so Kristoff could marry her
best twist villain
Shipping conquers all.
Lmao
I now believe that
That's just a theory! A film theory!
I actually really like the approach Pixar takes in some movies where one villain is known from the start and another is a twist villain. When it's done well of course. I think Randall and Waternoose are a really good example which you said in the video.
this is your best video - i come back to rewatch it all the time. Thank you for this great work
Ralph Breaks The Internet's villain was Ralph's insecurities.
Kinda smart.
Movie was still ass tho
I kinda liked it
Carter M. Well, Ralph was an idiot
But the creators weren’t....
It done sucked ass
That whole movie was fucking bad.
My 11-year-old sister figured out Evelyn because she's the only Incredibles character to swear. I know it's dumb but if you think about it she's not entirely wrong.
Holy shit what do you mean
I was like "bruh it's Evelyn I'm not 6" 🤦
Boi i meant the swear part
Always a Human Fighter
When do they swear?
I figured out Evelyn because, if you pay attention she is usually always in a darker more shaded area while her brother is usually always shown in a lit up environment.
When Hans became evil they just made him seem like a gay
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I saw the news on Twitter and didn’t think I watched any videos from this channel but apparently I did watch. Devastating news always hits differently when you realize that it was someone you knew. I’m so sorry for your loss.
Hans is actually a last minute villain, Elsa was meant to be the actual villain
I knew I freakin hated her
I wish Elsa was the villan
5 stars if Elsa was the villain
And it's all cos of Let It Go.......
@@KazuhaEien I found you again...
Hans was just mad he never got to finish Ana's sandwich like she said in the song. You're not you when you're hungry.
Eat a snickers
Have a snickers.
Consume a Snickers
Absord a snickers
Digest a snickers
Crazy to think this is the first video I saw on this channel, I believe about three years ago. And now not only do I love these videos, but I find such encouragement from his more heartfelt videos. I started watching James’s most recent video on Whisper of the Heart and I had to stop before he got to explaining the movie so I could watch it for myself. But what he said about storytelling was so beautiful! It really spoke to me as someone who wants to tell stories too!
King candy is not a just a really good twist villain but an actual clever twist too because it's actually not really the fact he's a villain that shocks and impacts the audience, it's the reveal that he's Turbo that is shocking and impactful. It's like syndrome, a character we see and hear about briefly and then we kinda just forget about them so it's takes us by surprise when he makes an unexpected return
Hans: I'll marry into the kingdom, now I just need a princess-
**I think I'll kill both**
P O L I T I C S
well, obwiously, you need a vewy high iq in order to understand the intricacies of royal political standoffs.
[translation: let's kill the royals. then the land will be easy pickings]
Man, I hated that so much. Because movie was actually pretty good otherwise.
@Cartoon Judge! C.G. the heck
@Cartoon Judge! C.G. frozen? oh, it's a simple movie, a kids movie. there's not too much to say about it
actually, hans was thrown in last minute. Elsa was originally supposed to be the villain but after let it go, disney decided that it didn't sound like a villain's song
Oh wow what if elsa was the villain
Cindy Lin yeah cuz I’m pretty sure that a lot of parents wouldn’t want their kids singing a villian’s song -_- 😂
Elsa was supposed to be shown as the villian but Hans was still the villian in the original and then Elsa would be revealed to actually not be evil
REVERSE SUPRISE VILLIAN
Tbh i would actually like her as a villan
Barrington A3 Isn't that actually how it is in the original fairytale?
To comment of the 'that was his mistake' line from big hero six, I agree that as it is, it's a bad line. But changed, I think it could have been better. Make calahaugn sound less like someone who doesn't care that he caused Tadashi's death, and more like someone trying to convince himself that it wasn't his fault. Make him more sympathetic and misguided, instead of just a jerk
Isn't that what happened? There was a pause and then he sounded like he tried to convince himself that it wasn't his fault. At least that is what the voice acting sounded like to me...or maybe it sounded different to me than it did for you in the German version. From Germany here, so now I wonder if the German VA made the scene sound different than the English VA. Huh. That would make the German version better. xD I liked that line, because it sounded like he was shocked and sputtered out some weak excuse.
@@hoppa_2184 I don't remember there being a pause in "That was his mistake!".
10:05 this was gold
Ernesto from Coco was a really good twist villain. Its less of the shock factor and more of a tragic twist that gets you.
The setup for the twist was absolutely amazing. The deliberate choice to leave Hector’s face out of the picture and to have him wear the same suit as Ernesto, the guitar, the similarities between him and Miguel, even that montage of them interacting. Then to reveal him to be a cold blooded murderer who sacrificed his own best friend for fame and fortune was just- It SHOOK me man.
@@Cheetahgirl_Studios Yes, the way that they hided this fact from us was so well made that it felt real.
Such an amazing movie.
YES like we knew he was bad but we thought he just manipulated people to get to the top NOT MURDER
@@NameName-yj7lp That's true!
I watched the movie on my birthday I did not like it but if you like it its ok
Dude Syndrome is NOT a twist villain he’s a surprise villain because we don’t know who he is until he explains it.
Surprise twist???
This would mean that Yokai/Callaghan is not a twist villain either.
Technically Syndrome is still a twist villain bc the “twist” was that his company turned out to be against supers. Much like King Candy/Turbo, the “reveal” is more abt his identity than his intentions. His character didn’t flip on a dime like many twist villains, but I’d still classify him as one. At least a distant cousin
How could you NOT recognize him
Unrelated, but I made your comment 2.1k likes 🙂
I really like Big Hero 6 despite the failed villain tho. I love the characters, the setting is stunning, and the gadgets are super neat!!! Imo, one way they could've fixed Callahan was to make him seem like he wasn't all there when he was introduced. Hiro would be confused/ concerned about it and Tadashi would explain he wasn't the same after loosing his daughter, but he was never told how the daughter died. That would make his psychopathy more of an understood fact and less out of the blue. And maybe some more stuff about his past just to add a little more weight and have Abigail's death really be a snapping point. One example is, we never hear about Callahan's wife, what happened to her? Maybe whatever happens results in Callahan being overprotective of his daughter and her assumed death be a snapping point for him. Thats all i got, thank you for reading my dumb little rant :))
He didn't work since they made him way too murderous for he's supposed to be sympathetic and get his daughter back.
Love the ending of your review; kind and loving.
I just realized that Up And Coco have 1 thing in common, Both surprise villains tried to kill a child
oop-
Both surprise villains are also the idol of the main character
Huh, guess theu read The Art of Potatoes by Szu Tsun
That was his mistake
Wait-
I can't believe Frozen is seven years old. Isn't that crazy, or is it just me? It feels like it came out just a couple years ago maybe.
Niloc Rekkab same situation. Man, time flies by...
It’s mainly because they keep making merchandise
ISN'T THAT CRAZY? WE FINISH EACH OTHERS **SANDWICHES**
WAIT WHAT NO IT CANNTVBEAIT SOANEMAANCAME OUT LAIEKD A LITTLEM WHIRL DOAEGE
I’m 17 so I was 10 or 11 wow
Hans irritates me on several levels, largely because he is *incredibly* easy to fix. Like, pick a lane, either he's a villain the whole time and drop a few hints that he's a tad questionable, or he's not the villain and what him and Anna have isn't love, its just simple attraction. He can even still be the antagonist after the second option!
After seeing that the kiss doesn't work, he goes to try and kill Elsa because he thinks its the only way to save Anna and the kingdom. There, now you have your physical threat if you need it. Done.
Zootopia has the same issue. So easy to fix, like... one scene does it.
I was crying at the end of that vid bro, good job
the problem with twist villains is that we don't get any time for villain songs
exactly, jafar's reprise of prince ali was fire
This is not a problem. This is the opposite to a problem.
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I'm not a fan of the songs generally anyway. That first third or so of Frozen is so musical it's pretty much an opera and I don't like it. But they could always do a villain song when the twist is revealed. That's no more stupid than the placement of any other song.
@@Scrinwaipwr yeah but do you remember hellfire by the villain in hunchback of notredom??? That song slapped
I’m Hans in my schools Frozen musical and I feel attacked.
don't commit self Doom
Ooooooff
*my friends said I would get the annoying snowman*
School: you are a bad actor so you’re perfect for the role
Nico Grassi are the side burns ichy
Gacha Twilight Universe sadly I had no sideburns
When he said “Choo-choo Muntz”, I questioned when “Choo-choo Charles” had been released, and if this was an accidental foreshadowing.
(Also, Disney and Pixar have actually become the same company. 4:16.)
Mother Gothel's is my favorite "twist" villain, because she was always the villain, using manipulation and gaslighting before she was even revealed to Rapunzel. Most other twist villains are "Haha I'm the villain now!"
How to pinpoint a Disney twist villain:
1) Notice the nice but useless character is getting more screentime than a useless but nice character needs.
2) Wait the entire movie for the reveal.
I have a game when me and my family watch Disney movies, for us to guess the twist villain before the reveal. We did it with Frozen 2
@@KazuhaEien How'd that go?
PxndaCakes I don't remember. We all somehow forgot about it after finishing the movie, for some reason.
But wouldn't that make olaf the comic relief and the bad guy?
@@phoenixflamex8838 Yes.
The thing that makes me mad about Hans being a twist villain is that... that plan wouldn't work. Royalty doesn't work that way. If a monarch dies, it goes to the next BLOOD relative, not the monarch's spouse. To make it worse, being royalty himself, HANS SHOULD KNOW THIS. Nothing about Hans being evil makes sense.
even IF he would have married Anna, He would still only be Prince of arendelle
Except that in this time period, the kingdom is passed down to the king. If there is no king in said bloodline, then to the queen. But should the Queen marry, all of a sudden that power goes to the spouse. Also, Elsa was in exile, and Anna was thought dead. So, Anna was acting queen, making Hans acting King.
@@ridjenite i dont think that prince phillip holds the power in the UK but go on
@@uselessash3580 Not now. And not in the UK ever since Queen Elizabeth I. But if she had managed to find herself married in that time...
@@ridjenite can you give me an example of that happening?
One thing I have to say about Screenslaver that even CinemaWins pointed out. The whole thing about making supers legal wasn’t controversial, as the goal was to make them illegal forever, and tricking people into thinking the supers only helped to make them legal would be helpful for the plan due to them endangering world ambassadors and civilians when the hydrofoil was headed to the city.
The trolls in frozen would’ve made a better twist villain than Hans. Hans seemed to genuinely care for Anna and if he kissed her than he would’ve gotten the throne anyways since Elsa never intended on coming back. His sudden snap made no sense to me. The only way Hans could have ended up like that was the possibility that he ran into the trolls on the way back to Arendelle and the trolls learned he was headed there. Then they used their magic to wipe his memory and make him an evil slave to make room for the trolls to take over the kingdom.
They were just doing some "teehee we'll make the Disney Prince actually the real villain" even though Dreamworks did this way better in Shrek.
in all honesty hans' horse could have been a better villain than him
I'm dying, that would've so hilarious tbh
A c c u r a t e
Hey!
"Why?"
*"Neigh"*
Hit up Disney with that,
Frozen 3: *Revenge of the Horse*
as a quote I once found on pintrest said, "A good twist villian doesn't trick the audicene. A good twist villian enhances the story and adds to the narrative."
I think a good villain can even trick or let's say, "challenge" the audience but definitely not like these twist characters shown in the video. I.e. let's show that the character is evil but also in some parts seems to be good or their motives are controvertial - not like here where a good character suddenly turns out to be a villain "just like that", from 0 to 100 in one second.
Lydia Hanger Yes but we're talking about kid movies. Let's leave those confusing villains to the ones who can identify who's in the wrong without being told
@@suwenxxer I believe in kids movies we can have not-so-obvious villains, too. The example of Syndrome proves it, he has some good reasons to be mad at the MC and kids can get it. And he's cool with cool gadgets, it's hard to really not like him.
Of cource such character should be easy enough to figure out - kids can get a good life lessons by judging such characters on screen, like "don't trust every nice person, they may want to hurt you", easy stuff like that. And parents could always talk with their kids and explain things if there are some doubts, another good occasion for them to learn something new and to share their opinions - and a good time for these parents to shape their kids' beliefes in a correct direction.
That quote can literally be fit for any character in writing...
I absolutely knew that he was gonna dunk on one of the movies after that little monologue at the end there XD, although i thought it would have been big hero 6 rather than the good dinosaur
I’m so glad I watched this video before the other videos where you do the big hero 6 TWHM
The amount of "ThAt WaS HiS mIsTaKe!"s is literally hallarious
his mistake that was
@@wanttobeaspaceface5486 a direct miscalcultion of his actions
@@errorman9508 the decision that was made proved to be incorrect.
THAT WAS HIS STEAK
THAT WAS HIS MS. STEAK
"twist" villians are rly good when you already know theyre an enemy. When they already straddle that line, it doesn't feel forced or disappointing, but it's still exciting. Like someone else said, Mother Gothel is a great example. She's not a twist villian to us, but she is to the characters. And she's a really good and realistic villian: degrading and disrespecting rapunzel throughout the entirety of the film, until she finally goes full cruelty and puts rapunzel in chains.
This line of thinking reminds me of something Alfred Hitchcock said. If you let the audience see the bomb under the table without the characters seeing it, the tension in the scene goes waaay up.
That's pretty much been my thoughts about twists. If the point is to surprise the audience, as soon as they guess/hear about it, its kinda pointless. If the twist has like an effect on the world and stuff, then if it's good, it'll be interesting to watch it play out regardless of if anyone guessed it.
Or John Silver in treasure planet
Kinda like Omni-Man
This But Andrias
19:21 oh my god that would have been refreshing. They make a bad guy to prop up the Supers again because they want the Supers back. Of course we as the audience would want Supers to be legal again so they dont have to hide, but I dont think a lot of people would want to fabricate crimes to do that.
Why did I never watch this video to completion before?
I agree with everthing u said, except Callaghan. You are right, he was very obvious. However, I disagree about his supposedly dumb motivation and purpose in the movie. Big Hero 6 is about grief and how to deal with it and Callaghan represents a selfdestructive way of dealing with gief. The way he handles the loss of his daughter is the opposite of Hero´s way. In the scene where Hero removes Baymax´s healing-chip, he nearly becomes like Callaghan, which should show that the two are very similiar and deal with the same emotions. But in the end he overcomes it by thinking what his brother would have wanted. This is a thought Callaghan can´t do, because in his mind his daughter is gone and he wants is revenge against the one person, he thinks is responsable. We can argue about the way it was executed, but the main idea is a good one in my opinion.
And also, I thought the plan of the screenslaver from Incredibles 2 was logical. She saw that people started to like superheros again, plus in the past they were only outlawed, because of property damages and not some horific actions. She wanted the people to hate and outlaw superheroes forever, so she helped her brother to get the peoples hopes up and shatter them with every possibility of rehabilitating the image of super heroes ever again. Again, it´s about grief and the motivation of blaming someone for the loss of a person. I think that makes sense, but it´s honestly debatable.
INCREDIBLES 2 HAS THE MOST PREDICTABLE TWIST VILLIAN HER NAME IS LITERALLY “EVIL ENDEVOUR”
True dat
Her picture wAS ON THE SCREENSLAVER'S D E S K
I hated that twist.
I just hate the fact that both movies share the same type of plot twist where the person they’re working for ends up being the villain they’re fighting against
@@btrain213 Incredibles 1 did it better, the second movie had the worst villain tbh. Decoy screenslaver was soo much better.
Hans could've just tried to seduce Anna or Elsa and
yknow
not try to murder anyone.
That’s......exactly what he did until the ending
ya but us redheads r dramatic
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@@ingloriousMachina Heck yeah!
Evelyn Deavor = Evil Endeavor
Much like Cruella De Vil = Cruel Devil
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