This Affordable 180Hz Monitor is Ideal for Budget PC Builds (MSI G255F)
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- Today we're talking about the new MSI G255F, an affordable 180Hz display that I've been using for the last couple of weeks. This 24.5 inch monitor sounds ideal for entry-level and mid-range builds alike, but is it worth considering for your next setup?
0:00 Specs and Features
1:48 Thoughts on Image Quality
3:03 I Never Knew This Existed...
3:33 Adaptive Sync Makes This Great For Budget Builds
5:03 My Real-World Gaming Experiences and Final Thoughts
MSI G255F Gaming Monitor Info and Specs:
www.msi.com/Monitor/G255F
Ebuyer Link:
www.ebuyer.com/2192233-msi-g2...
Monitors Unboxed -
(Nvidia G-Sync vs AMD FreeSync vs Adaptive Sync in 2024):
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Thank you for watching :) - Věda a technologie
What is your response to the accusations that these videos are being filmed in front of a green screen and not in the actual backyard? Truth will come out, people deserve to know!
yeah a TRUE gamer would never go outside
Maybe Steve is just AI and green screen. I don't actually think he has aged in 5 years, it's suspicious
He is budget gaming he doesn't have budget to buy a chroma
Considering about 90% of the these are filmed on a cloudy day, I’d argue this is definitely not a green screen
@@manurz1that... is a fair argument
Always love looking forward to a new RGiHD video!
Thanks!
@@RandomGaminginHDDid you change the channel name or has this always been this?
Man, you do deliver on monitor reviews indeed! Thanks for honesty!
Great timing, Steve! I am actually considering this monitor :D
Have you buy this and this monitor is as good as it price?
Welcome to the church of high refresh rate, brother!
It's truly one of those "WHY HAVEN'T I TRIED THIS BEFORE I CAN'T GO BACK" moments, like the first boot up from a SSD.
Welcome to the your 'GPU vram stuck at max Mhz and higher watt usage on idle' club more like it LOL just kidding I went from a 60Hz to 165 and it's marvelous bro!👍 Also I still remember how an 860Evo ssd made my old 4th gen i5 feel like 8X faster back in the day👌
Personally I don't care about high refresh rate, bought a 27" 4K144 monitor just because I got it with a very cheap price from a friend. I guess though that I will start using that in gaming and put my current 32" 4K60 as a secondary monitor.
I disagree.. to a degree. Personally I cant tell that much difference anything over 100hz
I've got a 4K 144Hz Monitor last year and it is a noticeable difference. The only thing that annoyed me was the pre-enabled HDR and auto brightness. Manufacturers have to stop this.
@@hyperturbotechnomike what gpu U use?
I upgraded my monitor a couple of months ago I got a 27" 1440p 165Hz HDR ready monitor brand new for £149 and it was a really good upgrade from my 24" 1080p 60HZ monitor which is now my new second monitor :)
Testing motion clarity on these budget monitors is also a necessity, if you will. I found that these msi monitors have decent motion blur optimization.
yeah, i agree. is sufficient to go on UFO test and try different options
My GT 1030 is gonna love this!
Got this Pixio 24 inch curved monitor for $20 about 4 years ago now. It’s 100hz and I still use it to this day. Does decent enough!
I've heard some people and also seen in some games that adding a crosshair in games that don't have one could help with motion sickness. So that option is useful in this way too :).
I watch all your videos, you're one of those rare youtubers whom I can't get enough of.
It's cause you just seem like a swell dude.
Great review! That definitely looks like an awesome monitor! Here in the USA, this monitor is called the G255PF E2. It’s not that expensive either.
A week ago I acquired a Samsung Odyssey G4 25" 240hz , it cost me about 230 USD and I am impressed with the change, since it came from a humble 22" TN 60hz monitor. Although I have noticed a little bit of Ghosting.
Great stuff, as always.
I picked up 2 Curved 27 in 1440p 170HZ ACER DISPLAYS, for 149.99 each they are Outstanding!
These are not IPS but VA, panels but they are quite vivd and responsive! neither have USB ports either like my last monitors, but i just added a USB card LOL.
@@Brian_Buckley VA panels just aren't worth buying except for literally like 2 options max, I disapprove of recommending that people buy garbage monitors
@@yhiz4757
Lol, ok, so don't. I assure you these are quite outstanding. I have zero regrets with my purchase. I am honestly thrilled every time I sit at my system. Something tells me you are confusing VA with TFT....
man its hard to spot an IPS curve in my local market place that fits the same budget
@@R3TR0J4N I'm about to sell my 24in Acer and 24 inch LG on marketplace both are IPS, and 144hz 1ms 1080p. No looking back now....not when 1440p can be had for less than 1080p lol
Awesome. Might pick one up
Not everyone is fortunate enough to be about to own a $2k+ pc plus peripherals….. so i find having these more budget friendly items available to the public is a great thing imo! Especially when people are newly getting into PCs and want to explore what high quality graphics and high refresh rates can offer users.
Great review, was looking at this one compared to a LG UltraGear monitor that i was looking at but at least ive got it narrowed down to two now. ( also i know you probably won't see this, but 6:15, you pulled out everything but a gun lmao)
Literally got this monitor this morning. 😊
Is it good?
It is really good
I just bought like 2-3 weeks a go AOC g2 165mhz 1080p 24inch monitor, It was also around 150$ I have Nvidia, so I am using G-SYNC, and all games are very smooth very happy with it, very happy.
For me that is also the monitor I suggest for low-budget if anyone is looking for something else :)
Same here I bought about a month ago. The older models used to be Adaptive sync compatible (at least that's what was written in on/off mode in menu) but the new g2spe is G-sync compatible. I use AMD card but there's no problem. The image is great and little to no ghosting on the panel. And that unit's advantage to this 180Hz msi unit is that it has both hdmi and dp cable included in the box.
Hey, you're actually getting kills in CS2 !
I have a similar MSI monitor I picked up like 2 years ago though it's 165hz. Got it real cheap at Costco plus it's a couple inches bigger.
Have you thought about using portable "monitors" as a desktop display? They're way cheaper than normal monitors and its not because their specs are bad but rather cause they're smaller.
You can also pair them with a "tablet arm mount" which acts like a monitor arm so you can use it at a desk and bring it closer to your face.
Other than decent specs for a good price you also get higher PPI (at the expense of screen real estate ofc). They're very good, typically between 10.1in - 18in
Higher PPI = better
OLED 2160p 60hz 15.6in - 282ppi $499
IPS 2160p 60hz 15.6in - 282ppi $299
IPS 1080p 60hz 13.3in OLED - 165ppi $139
IPS 1600p 120hz 16in - 215ppi $119
IPS 1440p 60hz 14in - 185ppi $89
IPS 1280p 60hz 10.1in - 219ppi $69
IPS 1080p 60hz 12in - 183ppi $59
IPS 1080p 60hz 15.6in - 141ppi $75
For reference
1080p 24in 91ppi
1440p 27in 108ppi
2160p 32in 137ppi
So even the lowest monitor in my list (141ppi) will look equivalent to the crispness/detail of a 4k 32in display due to pixel density
@@HybredCan i measure the ppi of my monitor?
Reminds me of the 175 Hz monitor I got during black week. The 700 DKK deal made its price similar to 60-75 Hz monitors at the time.
I just got a 32in LG ultra gear a few weeks back. I both love and hate the size cause now I find myself frequently adjusting my head way more but at the same time playing games on such a large scale at 1440p 165fps is pretty incredible, at least when I can hit 165fps which is like in 2 or 3 games all of which are a decade or 2 old.
Also review Lenovo legion R25f-30, 24.5in 280hz 99%srgb . Such a great monitor look forward for your review
That is a really good price. I was £220 on a 30" 200Hz but it is an ultrawide and with that comes more cost as you need to make sure you are aware of how much more taxing the UW is on the gpu. I already use a 7800xt so it isnt a big fps drop for what I do. I will look into this for the kids pcs as they are both using 24" monitors that are a bit tired.
I went from playing 60 hz on TV to playing 120 hz on a responsive 1440p IPS moniter last year. One of the best gaming decisions ever. Being a console player, I always attributed my bad aim to playing on controller. Turns out my aim's not half bad when the latency is cut way down.
Edit: also got the wired gamesir Xbox controller with hall effect sticks which helps too.
I remember back in 2018 getting the ASUS PG248Q that has almost the same specs as this one (it's slightly worse), except for double the price. Gaming peripherals have gotten cheaper and higher in quality these past couple of years.
After experiencing 165hz+ monitors, what makes you go back to a 75hz on the daily when you have the option for higher? I get that you're a more budget oriented channel but 120hz and above is so common now. You're a mad lad!
*El mejor monitor calidad precio, lo compre hoy me llega a casa en dos semanas quiero ver como le va mi pc y mi xbox series X* ❤❤
It would have been cool if you showed the ufo test, while following the alien with that camera. That way we can get an idea of its motion clarity
Going from 60hz to 180hz must be similar to going from 1080p to 2160p! I recently had the opportunity to upgrade, holy pixels Batman I’ll never go back✌️😅💯
I actually just received my viewsonic 180hz monitor and it was only £109 on amazon, gaming monitors are so affordable nowadays
its also ips and 24 inch so its pretty much the same thing just rebranded lol, this vid is perfect timing
@@Seizuqi not quite. There can be many differences between a monitor with the same specs, even those that use the same panel. Color and motion calibration made by the manufacturer can make a big difference.
@@Seizuqi the monitor in the video is a 27" for the same price as your 24"
@@madb132 the description says 24.5 inch, if a monitor is 27 inch then i would get 1440p for pixel density, 1080p is good enough on 24 inch imo
@@SpaceLion949 true dat, thats why i try to look for UFO tests and whatnot before buying monitors lol
Some footage in a dark room environment would be nice 😊
Since you do budget monitor reviews, could you cover the Sansui ES-G24X5 or whatever the UK equivalent is? My current monitor has a lot of ghosting because of the slower budget VA panel. The Sansui ES-G24X5 is actually their flagship monitor. It’s a 24” 1080p 165Hz monitor with an IPS panel. Despite being their Flagship monitor, it’s only $105 (USD). As until I can get the Corsair Xeneon Flex, I need a monitor with a much faster response time. And IPS panels tend to have much faster response times than equivalent VA panels, especially at the sub $200 range.
As I didn’t realize a VA panel would be this slow in regards to response time. As I have 2 other screens. One is my main TV which is a 65” OLED and a 30” Sanyo HD CRT. I don’t have ghosting on either set because of the near instantaneous response time of OLED, and the instant response time of the speed of light for the HD CRT because of the electron gun. I have an HD CRT for my PS3.
Nice, it seems like the cost of several of these higher-refresh monitors is coming down without cutting many corners. If this is to become the new "normal", it really does need to be at an accessible price, and it looks like we're finally starting to get that.
I think just about everyone with a gaming PC owns a lighter game or two, and/or would be willing to drop some settings here and there to see what high-FPS gaming is all about.
Also: I think you mentioned this, but if you lock your game to 120FPS on a 180Hz display, have VRR / Adaptive Sync turned on, and hit a bit of stutter or drop below (or just tip over above) 120 momentarily, the monitor can keep up just fine and it'd hardly be noticeable. So, whatever FPS you're shooting for, VRR really does sound like it's give you flexibility to leave tearing behind and not have to use traditional VSync to do so.
I believe turning VRR off and allowing tearing technically gets you just slightly better input latency still, but it's getting to the point of being so little latency you may just want the VRR on even if you're a person who craves quite a low-latency experience.
When the hardware is capable of all of this, you can turn on/off settings as you please, try a bit of everything, and set it to what you actually want on the day of. Not locked in to anything. And again, with prices becoming reasonable, there's not much reason not to -- if already needing a new monitor, it may as well be one that can do high FPS and VRR at this point.
I got a 180hz AOC 24" gaming monitor off Amazon a few months ago for like $110 USD to accomodate a 5600x/rx7600 build I did. 180hz on a 1080p 24 inch screen looks and feels very nice, and I am a 1440p guy. If you cant shell out the money for a 240z 1080p, or can't be bothered to, these 180hz displays are a valid option.
ah yes... finally he is reviewing monitors.
👍good job mate
keep it up
love the content btw
Thanks! Hopefully I can get a bit more in depth as time goes on, but pretty new to looking at screens!
@@RandomGaminginHDIf you haven't been looking at screens, how have you been able to do all those graphics card reviews....?
I know this video is about a review of a budget gaming monitor but oh boy, at 4:10 that's some fine driving!
I rewatched that clip and i didn't realize how smooth the driving was 😮
How was the backlight bleeding on this monitor? A lot of budget IPS displays (and sometimes even higher end ones) tend to leave brighter spots around the edges, would like to see how it was for you.
Looks fantastic, great for high fps shooters etc.
I got an rtx4080 to get high fps on my alienware aw3423dw that’s 175hz, but still prefer to enable dldsr etc and am happy at anything over 60fps.
I was playing max payne 3 tonight max settings, x8 msaa and dldsr 2.25, it was at 25-35fps 😅 excellent looking game and great to try out with the crazy settings, went back to native res getting 120fps average.
I have an MSI monitor and love it
I'm glad you are enjoying the high refresh rate experience! But what if I tell you that this is not even the cheapest you can get to have a high refresh rate monitor. Because I got mine for under 70 USD back in December. High refresh rate monitors are getting cheap and I'm all for it.
Absolutely insane price for the specs!! On another note, Steve do you have a Radeon VII? Rich from Digital Foundry's one is broken and he pondered whether you have one he could borrow 😂
RIP Rich’s VII 😢
@@Chill_Mode_JD F
Just wondering what is the adaptive sync range of this monitor...will it sync from 30fps upto it's highest refresh rate or is the adaptive sync a narrow band like a some cheap monitors
great vid man keep it up
I've always though gaming monitor market is really volatile, at least I've scored some good deals in Finland in the last two years. Asus 27" 280Hz for 239€, MSI 27" 144Hz for 109€. Both 1080p, though, but at least they're IPS.
I have 27" 1080p 144Hz Free Sync monitor LG 27GL650F and really don't need much more. Performance is great on my 3070ti and if I have some to spare I can enable nvidia DLDSR 1440p and get better visuals, better Anti-aliasing. Can't go back to 60Hz.
this is a 1:1 copy of LG's ultragear budget monitors. they took everything from the power and scroll button to the front bezzel design and the io setup. it even has the slight lower bezzel bump that LG's monitors have. maybe they have a deal with LG to sell rebranded monitors?
I bought a 27 inch Dell qhd 165 hz with G sync (compatible) for £199 straight from dell a month ago
Can you show accurate use data like how many percent srgb, then test response time in every hertz, we need like that to compare if this monitor was worth it or no....
for another video would you rather have a higher refresh rate 1080p or a 60-75hz 1440p monitor ..... i know it is not a fair comparison but it would be nice to know because usually the hardware that can push that many fps at 1080p can easily do 1440p 60hz
May I know what type of cable is included? is it a hdmi or dp cable?
It seems like AOC has released a new 24G4 series with the exact same panel.
It's nice to see high refresh rate monitors becoming affordable, but I feel like a slower 1440p monitor would give a better experience. Honestly it feels a little weird using my 27" 1440p monitor sometimes after getting spoiled by my 40" 4k tv. Although to be affordable the tv does make some sacrifices in response time and is limited to 60hz.
is it any good for like editing pics? Like are the colours rlly good i found alot of DCI-P3 with hdr ready for 140$ like rlly suspicious
I used to be at 75hz and the switch to 144hz was insane as it is.
I still use a 60Hz Monitor from 2009
Same, i feel i upped my snipe skills in fps shooters 😂
just got the aoc g2sp used for the same price
Does this have a vesa mount?
Personally I rock a philiphs evnia 280hz ( ips), they are priced rather fair. Picked one up for 200eur
That's a nice monitor
Got the 144Hz version of this monitor a couple years back, and yeah, I never use any of the extra features. Great little monitor, though I struggle to see much difference after about 90fps or so, but maybe that's just my... let's just say over 40... year old vision.
Kinda hacked off that I paid so much(£280), but that was just the standard price for a higher than 60Hz monitor back then.
Yeah amazing how much monitors have dropped price wise!
I am getting this monitor in monday 😁
How now?
I want to ask whether this monitor can be used with a 1.4b port
For the really budget concious buyer there are cheaper 1080p options that don't have the "Gamer" premium marketing that they charge extra for . For example there are several 100Hz 24 inch models including an MSI Pro model for £89. I f I was doing an ultra-budget setup I'd include one of these.
Are there significant differences in color performance and brightness between the G244F E2 and the G255F monitors?
The ADOBE RGB / DCI-P3 / SRGB / Brightness(nits) specifications are as follows:
G244F: 94.4% / 92.05% / 122.88% / 250
G255F: 82% / 78% / 99% / 300
My PC specs:
CPU: R5 1600
GPU: GTX 1070
I'm wondering if the G244F E2 would be a better choice for activities like watching Netflix and playing AAA games such as 2077 or Elden Ring
G244F E2 is worse than G255F and the first G244F, so don't. those percentage only represent the wideness of the color gamut and not the color accuracy.
My monitor, less than a year old, already has a dead pixel. This is looking pretty enticing
Real question, why do you daily drive a 75Hz panel, even 144Hz feels SOOO much better(although I'm sure you know that) so what is the reason?
You dont have the samsung odyssey anymore?
Are you going to review the 3050 6GB? Just came out, not making many waves though.
Yes hopefully. Got a couple of models in mind I’d like to look at!
CANT WAIT! @@RandomGaminginHD
I was just looking on this, this your video suddenly pops up. I'm currently looking at this and ASUS TUF VG249Q3A. Which you think is the best for it's price?
same question, what will u choose? maybe g255f better for me
what do you prefer MSI G255F or G244F for playing competitive games ?
Which one did you bought at the end?
Now you need to get that 4K OLED screen that can do 1080p480. It'll still fit your channel's name. 😄
I always used 1080p 60hz monitors, if the difference is so big, i will buy it.
If your system can produce more than 60fps then it is absolutely worth it.
@@Brian_Buckley I have the RX 7800XT so i think i must finally take the step and buy a monitor with many Hz
@@misterPAINMAKER holy cow, absolutely.... You are stunting that 7800....
Your monitor might can do 75hz with hdmi
@@TheRealJohnHooper There is not an option for OC or 75hz.
Hyee sir...is this monitor good for gaming like..gta 5 rdr2...and do you notice a black smearing sir...hope you answer my question because i need a opinion...im planning to buy this monitor to
5:55 my man who cares if you play well or not. You have 522k subs as of now. That's the thing you do best.
just as i was looking for a new gaming monitor, had my eye on AOC 24inch 144hz (for around 150e). What would you guys choose?
I can the well-reviewed AOC 24G2 for under 150€ in Germany, France and Benelux
is the MSI G255F blurry?
monitor panel database is what?
MSI G255F vs MSI G244F E2
which is better ?
Could anyone tell me if you uk guys have the aoc hero 27" 144hz ips ?
5:40 bro sounds like casually roasting himself 💀
i check g255f in msi website and specs it is gtg 4ms
Good value but I've been to spoiled by my 32" 1440p. For a main monitor, I wouldn't downsize
the MSI G255PF E2 might be a better option it also has a better stand plus they are usually the same price
true
I went from a 4k 60hz to 1080p 165hz and the better response time is worth it over the resolution in my opinion 1080p still looks great and doesn’t stress your GPU as much
it depends on the number of inches of your monitor
what about MBR? is there a lot of crosstalk and does the monitor stay bright enough?
People still don't care about BFI and neither do most manifacturer. If you want good BFI, check the blurbuster approved monitors or oled TVs.
235 ping in battlefield 1 😀 I hope you are better at battlefield 1 than CS2, the monitor did look great in CS2 it certainly was smooth
Just bought myself an MSI G272QPF, normally it should have freesync, but on Adrenaline it only says "Adaptive sync compatible". Is it normal?
Yep, basically the generic term
Does this monitor work with g-sync?
Is this falfd or non fald monitor
I've the G244F E2. 180Hz. best budget monitor.
AOC 24g2 or the spe version is still a tad bit better if it's cheaper.. specially since it includes the dp cable in box too
@@upfront2375 mine came with HDMI n it can reach that 180Hz.
@@upfront2375a bit better in what terms?
Im trying to find a good 1440p 75hz + monitor under £200
Is the 180hz default or OC?
Hah, I remember using a small tear of paper that I moistened with my spit to stick onto the monitor as a makeshift crosshair when I was a kid.
Actually ☝🤓 you can turn on cursor in KCD with console command:
wh_pl_showfirecursor = 1
Please bring back the seagull Dave
Can this monitor run 120 frame on xbox series s?
What sorcery is this? I just searched this monitor 5 minutes ago and this video came up
No word on angles?