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people may shit on this laptop but that it was able to run heaven on ultra settings AT ALL is pretty impressive..... honestly if you look at the price/value ratio, the rtx4090 is the faaaaaaaaar bigger scam
@@parrotttt they ARE the metronome! (Serious answer: not being one myself i can’t speak from experience but afaik it’s only used very sparingly for initial timekeeping training, early on in their career.)
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Fun Fact: On my T490s, which was on the very expensive side of Lenovo laptops, the webcam blocker (Called “Privacy Shutter” here) is black, with a *red dot* in the middle. That was so confusing at first, as it looks *exactly* like a “Recording” icon. To add to that, there still is the unblocked lens of the IR face recognition camera next to it. So it really looks like “Yes, this position means that the lens right next to me is now recording.”
I had to live out of a $300 laptop back when I didn't have a home. You learn a lot about making a junk laptop run reasonably well when it's all you got in your life.
That's around £160 (assuming you mean Australian dollars)! When I had to live on a cheap laptop, I got a decent quality HP business laptop for £120, with an i5-3320m, 8GB of RAM, Windows 7 Pro (free update to Win 10 Pro), and a 500GB hdd. The screen was only 1366*768, but it was bright and usable, extremely basic but good enough. It destroyed laptops like the one in the video. The HD4000 graphics might be extremely limited, but you can play countless classic PC games, even some modern indie games with no issues. You could play GTAV surprisingly well with some tweaks. And it was a great emulation machine, unlocking thousands of games. Never any lag clicking, or browsing online, or anything else really. Battery wasn't too bad either, obviously that was the weakest part of the experience though. With a £20 ssd it was even better, and still less than a brand new junk laptop like in the video.
I had a new 2GB RAM laptop once, which was bad to begin with, but it was the first machine I used with Windows 8. Virtually unusable out of the box. This video made me nostalgic for the poor days when I was navigating incredibly slow dingus laptops of yesteryear.
@@wyterabitt2149 USD. But it had an A8-7410 AMD APU and came stock with 4GB of ram (I upgraded it to 8GB DDR3-1866) and a 1TB HDD (swapped it to a 500GB SSD) I installed a modded windows 10 on it that had a lot of MS features and bloat removed, which made it run pretty reasonably well, I was able to run some modded Skyrim on it, tho by around level 40 the save bloat would overwhelm the cpu. I also dual-booted it with Phoenix OS, which was a linux based Android OS, and for quite some time that let me play mobile games much better than phones could, so that's honestly where I did a lot of my gaming on that laptop for awhile.
when i was in college, with classmates who had $1,000 gaming laptops for coding and game development, my laptop was a $100 open-box dell lattitude with 4gb of RAM and a 64gb EMMc drive. we HAD to do our work in Windows so i just kinda had to make do.
It's nuts that people buy these mostly for their grandparents or their kids, precisely the types of user that are the most impatient when things are slow and not working as they should
@@hermitgreennfelt that in my soul. All I need to do with my laptop at work is type two reports a day and read two reports. It shits itself if you open chrome and word at the same time. So sometimes we share laptops and use two at once- one for pulling up the report on chrome, one for typing shit.
@@degeneratepervert62554 gigs of ram should be illegal nowadays lmao, the difference I noticed when going from 4 to 16gbs is undescribable and I'm aware that 16 is _only_ mid end, crazy how there's hordes of cash grab laptops still being sold with only 4
I remember having one of these because my dad refused to buy me a mac because "you're just using it for school" - only for me to challenge him to try and use it for a day for his work. He bought me a macbook promptly after that
EMMC storage is basically equivalent to SD card quality storage. Trying to run a relatively storage intensive OS (especially on first boot - and associated updates) is going to be miserable. Combined with the tiny ram, this wasn't unexpected.
Yeah, its's the eMMC that really stinks it up. I have a similar machine (Thinkpad 300e) and thinks that write a lot really bork it. It does run TMNT:Shredders Revenge well though and when it's settled down and just running something like Affinity Designer, it performs "okay",
eMMC is still faster than SD cards by a considerable margin. eMMC 5.1 maxes out at 330 MB/s read speeds, which is a bit below a decent SATA SSD but still faster than HDDs. But it depends on implementation if it'll even come close to those speeds, and of course if they're cheaping out then they're likely not using the latest eMMC either. SSDs are really cheap right now (but prices may be going up very soon), so it sucks they didn't just use that instead.
agree, however it is very sad any company is creating such computers, or an actual ewaste, when buying used business laptop for the same amount would get you 10x better machine. In any case, windows 11 is a horrible piece of spyware. I suggest, if it is possible, downgrade to windows 10. it will run smoother, without the need of creating a microsoft account, that they could lock when they like it. Furthermore, it is quite ridiculous how Microsoft decided to not allow some "old" CPUs to get windows 11, because they are "too old" but they allow it to run on this garbage. 4GB of ram. what a nutjob. New 8GB rams (end user) go for less than 10€. I am sure they could source some for half of the cost.
This is really the nice thing about Chromebooks. If you do stuff all on a browser (pretty much everything can be done in a browser now), you can get a fairly well built and fairly fast Chromebook for 170 bucks
The thing I don’t like about chrome books is the same thing I don’t like about most Android devices. They become e-waste far quicker. At least on most laptops you can get more life out of them with Linux assuming the bios isn’t completely locked. Apple usually supports their stuff for longer but they’ve really not been doing good with newer iOS devices being good out of the box. Companies talk about their environmental concern and produce tons of planned obsolescence ewaste. Sounds about right.
I’ve also found that they’re great machines for older people. No settings to screw up, no apps or malware to install and brick your PC (within reason). Just a browser for the web and a few barebones apps
Lots can be done in a browser. Lots of things absolutely should not be done in a browser. Chromebooks make sense for a certain crowd, I call them the Word Email Netflix users, but a lot of people might even be better off with a used Optiplex tower.
Gosh, this reminds me when I was working for Best Buy, and the amount of times I had to explain to customers why buying a cheap laptop was not a good idea. Those who listened got better deals. Those who didn't... Always returned to see me (I was Geek Squad, so computer tech) within 30 days complaining how slow the PC was and if I could do anything about it. Nope, I can't. Because you bought e-waste x3
The Best Buys I've worked at, we all affectionally called these models the "Chromebook Seller" because, at this point, a Chromebook is just a better device.
Yeeees Omg dude I kmow the pain Worked at a shop that's like.. a "premium Best buy" in germany. I had the same type of customers. I had this one lady that wanted a cheap PC. I showed her a great budget model at like 400€. Too expensive. I went down to 350€. It wasn't realy great... But if she was just gonna browse, Email and do online banking that'll be enough. TOO EXPENSIVE! Next was 299€. A piece of shit. TOO EXPENSIVE I spent an hour trying to explain to her that she already at the bottom of the barrel. She wouldn't accept it.
Came here to comment this. What really puzzles me is that most of the time these people are wearing Airpods Pro and carrying a $1000 iPhone. But honestly a 3-5 year old used laptop will be way better than this trash too.
i worked for Geek Squad too lol.... Double Agent 852. Actually, I started out as a Service Tech before Geek Squad was even a thing at BBY, and yes, PCHO dept sold crap e-waste computers all day long. Then lucky ol' me got to deal with every one of them when they came back the next day all pissed off wanting to return it. Then the CS reps would pass them off to me to try to prevent the return and the PCHO supervisor would get SUPER PISSED if I couldn't save the sale. I was like wtf do you expect when you're selling garbage product??? They would intentionally put customers into cheaper PC's so they could afford the stupid service plan. Ugh what a grind that was. Took the Geek Squad DA position as soon as it came up so I wouldn't have to deal with that shit anymore
My friend who worked at Best Buy was telling me all about how people would constantly come into the store to buy their kids the cheapest laptop on sale back when the 2020 lock downs were happaning and everyone was doing online school. He had the same laptop returned 7 times!! He kept trying to tell people not to buy the low end computers because they would struggle to keep up with even the most basic 3rd grader school work, and they didn't listen! I can't believe junk like this is even being sold anymore.
hands down the worst company I've ever worked for was best buy... I remember experiencing this too. I finally got out of having to work retail and dealing with the idiots thankfully
I think that’s why there’s a general dislike of windows from Mac people. A solid chunk of the machines that come with windows don’t have the horsepower to just work in a normal manner and windows machines therefore offer up horrible experiences.
Yep. It's better to spend an extra 100 to 200$ just to get something that won't be a headache, will run 1080p videos and will have enough space for windows updates in the future.
@@jimfixespixelsPersonally I have had some bad Macs cough* Intel *cough. I'm actually glad Apple has ditched Intel as the M series is pretty great. However I still hate certain things that Apple does, like charging an arm and a leg for storage and ram. Windows isn't that bad once you get it all set up and luckily there's an app that makes it really easy to turn off all the bullshit in windows. I haven't had any problems with windows since setting it up, however Mac OS requires none of that.
When I worked at Microsoft we were instructed to tell customers that Windows 10 would "last forever" and receive unlimited updates. Windows 11 has been such a misstep for the company. It runs so much worse and they made UI changes that did nothing to streamline the Windows experience. The first 8 minutes of this video genuinely resembles the majority of people I've helped when they need to install Windows 11 to a new PC...
windows 11 manages to make it even more annoying to make a local account as the only account out of the box. ach and the song and dance to jump through thoops to just have a movable taskbar. and it doesn't do anything better than 10, they just didn't port some virtualization stuff back to base 10 and by port I mean just enable.. ffs.
From 2019-2023 I was using a 2 core, 4gb of ram Ideapad S145. For how cheap it was it ran windows 10 pretty quick, and would run minecraft at 30fps while occasionally burning my finger tios off. I moved it to Windows 11 mid last year, and it was chugging like a train. Low end devices shouldn't run windows 11.
Yup. Had pretty much the same experience on my $2000 gaming rig so I wouldn't necessarily blame the hardware, that actually seems like it would've been a very decent entry level laptop if you were to upgrade the memory.
@@lasskinn474I vaguely remebered first setting up my Windows 11 laptop and I think I had to use a trick to bypass the account creation. That was before I wiped it with the intent to get rid of it. Had to deal with account creation.
I'll rather this than chromeos school let us keep the laptop they gave us but we literally can't use them unless we log in with school credentials and we all know why that bad the best part is that we all was locked out of our emails about a year ago so now that Chromebook is completely useless and yeah I've tried putting Linux on it no dice
@@pedrosilvamusicianHere in Argentina there were programming courses for universities and not only were they free, they gave you a laptop for completing them. I chose one that, although it was generic, came with an 11th gen Intel i5, 8GB of RAM and 480GB of SSD.
Well funny enough my free school gave me something much better it had ryzen 5 pro in it it was tho blocked to not download anything but it could easly run minecraft and roblox and such that was on store
This exact computer got me through my formative years as a programmer, its a trooper that, you got to bear with it but ubuntu and patience is the recipee for success there
When building a new computer last year, I needed to take it in for maintenance at a nearby Centrecom because something was going wrong and I couldn't figure it out after hours of troubleshooting (it got fixed, thankfully), and I mentioned that I have Windows 10 installed, and would rather not have 11 installed if they could help it. The guys there were so "Yeah, mate, understandable" about it that, despite not selling copies of 10 anymore, having copies of 11 they presumably want sold, and not having my copy of 10 to use for installation, they made sure to get 10 on it when they fixed it. This was only a little bit before the end of last year, too. It's amazing how Windows likes to make their OS' so poorly that the drive to do good for another human being overcomes corporate nickel-diming. I would have settled for it at the time, genuinely, but the guys there just said "nah, mate, he brought it in with a problem, he doe'nt need to take it home with another".
well problem is, benchmarks are not that bad, that Athlon should run around i3-7100 pefrormance, far away from not being usable. Problem is overall build and that funny 4GiB ram with windows on emmc storage
At least now it's a mode you can disable, it used to be a complete hardware structure that'd prevent you from installing non store apps, and now the windows 8 store is dead so those pcs are just landfill material
Technically true, if you want to treat you computer like a smartphone. Which is antithetical to the decades of WinNT's legacy that Microsoft has worked so hard to keep up and is the reason why people use Windows in the first place. If people wanted easy app installs they'd buy a Chromebook. Microsoft truly is in it's corporate "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" desperation phase. Everything in Win11 just screams "we haphazardly added this because we believe this will bring in profit", especially with how easy it is to remove and restore Win10 levels of functionality.
When I was looking for a new laptop and found the perfect one I noticed it was running Windows 11 S Mode. I quickly got googling to see how to disable it and the moment I got it and powered it on I just disabled it. Really useless feature, you want security? Don't download from shady sites, have an antivirus and anti-malware and don't be an idiot
I know it won't happen, but I really think it would be cool to see a "Getting the nugget laptop to run 'well' " video using Linux. Just curious what the difference would be
I own this exact laptop and my first move was to install Linux Mint. It runs fine. Unlike Windows, in which I might as well have a coffee break if I need to switch tabs.
My parents got me one of these Lenovos on a Black Friday sale when I started university in 2018. I was studying graphic design. I used that thing until I actually broke it. Looking back on it, I ask myself how on earth I let myself be in the trenches like this lmao
When I worked at BestBuy, the amount of people that would flock to the store to get these device when they were on sale was astronomical. We would always insist on getting something else because we would show them how slow it was. A week later we would have a stack of these things in returns all with "too slow" and "can't run games". Classic.
As someone who grew up on low-end laptops the urge to shout "give it a sec!" was so strong at the start of this. Windows is really the biggest problem with a lot of this, especially W11. It's so bloated. I had a very similar Lenovo Ideapad with a low end AMD A-series APU, and I'd still be using that thing if it didn't get stolen, was a tank running Linux.
9:22 The screen being the only light in the pitch black room, the clapping from Wade and the credits really makes this feel like you went to a Movie Theater and managed to get an entire screening to yourself and a random stranger you don't know who is sat behind you.
My father in law keeps buying these to facilitate his gambling addiction, then complains when they crap out every three months due to popups and malware lol
My favorite thing about this channel and why I get excited over a new upload is the sheer joy and glee in his voice over silly things like absolute garbage iPods turning on or this laptop topping out at 3fps. It's the kind of stupid joy we should all strive for
Agreed. I wish everybody in life had the same enthusiasm as DankPods about mundane things such as iPods or unique things such as rare 1990s MP3 players. :) Another thing, DankPods could review the coolest computer, the Framework Laptop. Parts can be swapped out of that thing.
The bowed keyboard in my experience is usually a sign of a spicy pillow underneath. Terrible if it came out the box with one LOL, be safe with that thing.
I've worked with these dinguses before. They don't have the battery there, it's just bad build quality and warping plastic. You can even press down on the bowing and make them wobble because it's basically hollow inside.
@@l.a1532 I suggest taking the back off your laptop and checking if the battery is a hot pillow- if it is, you should get a new one for like 20~60$- it could save your life to replace it. Or just buy a steam deck for like 300$ and save your self the hassle and get a really good pc.
i work at a JB Hi-FI and we've had that Leader laptop on display for i think 3 years now; it's our only unit left i don't think it's ever going to sell
Now I want to see Wade install a really lightweight Linux distro on this laptop and see how it goes! It's a perfect candidate since it doesn't have Nvidia bullcrap in it, no need for fighting drivers and screen tearing.
@@ComixProductions Ahhhhh the innocence of not having to try and make Linux work with an Nvidia GPU and then eventually giving up and disabling the GPU and using IG. Also, my Raspberry pi 4 runs faster than this Windows laptop, Linux would be a vast improvement to this.
@@ComixProductionsthe comment said ‘since it doesn’t have nvidia’ what’s your point, and have you attempted to install Linux on machine with nvidia graphics, most installers don’t support the proprietary drivers.
Practically any Linux distro will run buttery smooth on a machine like this. You'll have responsiveness unheard of on a CPU like this. Until you launch a browser. I was tinkering with an old EeePC (practically the same as Wade's) that I put Windows 7 on at one point, and it run awfully. I just wanted it to be a little netbook to chat on while gaming on my main PC but it wouldn't do a damn thing as soon as I launched anything internet-related. It came with Windows XP and that on its own still runs beautifully. Until you launch a browser :-P
@@samsam21amb OHHHHHHH I'm so sorry, I thought they meant that the laptop wouldn't have pre installed Nvidia software on Linux, not that it doesn't have Nvidia components. And no, I haven't installed Linux on a laptop before apart from once back when my dad did it on an old HP Elite book to try and see what was wrong with the SSD. I tried reading the comment again and again to understand what was meant but I simply didn't get it. Sorry.
That's another problem. Drivers, newly made low end machines can't run on older OS that it wasn't made of. This is peak eWaste. The only way you can use this is with Linux.
Have you talked about the sony WH-1000xm5’s yet? I’d love to see a video on those if you haven’t already, I couldn’t find one but it’s maybe in a different themed vid?
I had the Intel Celeron version of this exact laptop. Crummy old thing, could barely load Chrome without passing out, but dear lord did it save my sanity throughout the pandemic. Basically graduated from school on it. I had to load up Google Meet half an hour before classes if I wanted to be on time XD Still, given that this was all I could afford at the time, it'll always have a special place in my heart. Thank you, you beautiful old nugget.
The Athlon is actually fairly decent for basic PC use. The problem here is the emmc storage (incredibly bad, not even Linux can fix it) and the low 4GB of RAM (this can be fixed with a light OS like some Linux flavours).
I have one, too. Barely runs windows and only has like 64 gigs storage. But surprisingly, it runs older games fine, Hell, half life 2 was running at a playable framerate.
@@leonroI actually got a Chromebook for Christmas after asking for one. It was actually a nice experience! It was stuck with 2GiB of ram, but it ran linux fine. The lack of storage was an issue though. 16GB of storage is not enough, even under ChromeOS. I miss that thing, I accidentally crunched the CPU to death mounting the motherboard to a piece of wood ;( Hell, I installed ide to sdcards in my 2000's machines. SO MUCH FASTER THEN HARD DRIVES. I'm putting the blame on Windows and putting swap files on nand flash.
I remember that we have windows laptops for middle school and they ran terribly, but anyone that took the technology class (I did) he would upgrade our computers RAM without the school knowing, he'd make it an assignment where we open it up, take out the 2gb of RAM, and plug in the 16 GB one, super fun and he would always guide us. Our laptops were always the fastest lmao
I don't quite miss the 1" thick laptops, but I had to work on an old 2010's era one recently and good lord they are so much easier to get into. Like 4 screws and 5 minutes to swap the drive, getting the donor one out probably took half an hour and a full iFixit kit lol. (plus of course half of it was clips so it'll never go back together quite right)
@@LizlodudeI My favorite laptop is my current dell latitude 7490. The higher end versions have i7s and thunderbolt 3. The nice thing is that 8 captive screws and the metal plate comes off with no clips to break. Battery, nvme ssd, wlan card, wwan card, and dual ram slots are all accessible and I iirc the charging port is on a daugterboard. I love that machine. I also picked it up for only $160
@@deepspacecow2644 yeah the Latitudes and some XPS seem to be pretty good. I have a 2020 model Inspiron and it's a piece of junk. Really hoping Framework adds a touchscreen and IR camera option before mine actually kills itself.
@@Lizlodude My main laptop is an old ThinkPad T440p which can be opened in few seconds. It has a bottom panel which can be slide off after removing 2 screws, it gives you access to the socketed RAM, CPU, WiFi card, 3G/4G modem card which could be replaced with an SSD, 2.5" SSD, and a screw which holds in the DVD drive (which could also be replaced with an SSD). The i7-4800MQ 4c/8t mine has is more than enough for what I use the laptop 99% of the time. It's a lot more powerful than the Athlon Silver 3050U in the video, though the old i7 is also a lot more power hungry. And of course the T440p has a real SSD instead of a crappy slow eMMC storage
I brought my own personal laptop to school, before I had a laptop, I was carrying a desktop class to class in highschool, the desktop was one I pulled out of the garbage at a computer store... yes I found a computer in the garbage that was faster than the school's, it is an i7 4790 and 16gb ram, anyways, I think every student should pull a computer out the trash and use it, it'd save the school money too
Got my mom a similar nugget, and honestly the best thing to do with these is to just preinstall firefox, an adblocker and debloat the hell out of windows. If all you need to do is surf the web, check emails and type shit in word, these things can actually be decent. She loves it and has never had an issue.
I got some no name laptop on a heavy discount for 99€. It's got the worst CPU that Intel currently makes but it seems to be way better than whatever that Athlon junk is. Windows 11 performance is actually acceptable. But Windows itself is so awful, it drags the laptop from "pretty good for the price" to "borderline unusable". I'd install some good distro if I didn't need a few programs (for which I got the laptop to begin with) which will never work on Linux.
@@glossymouse7712I didn't know they still made CPU tribalism. For real though, slap Linux on it and see how much better it can run. Windows 10 is trash on modern hardware let alone 11 on lower end stuff
@@StudioBrock1337 For as bad as the Linux daily driver challenge went for Linus Tech Tips, it proved how much of printers "sucking" was Windows's fault
@@arnox4554 I'll beg to differ. 10 is acceptable, but it did kick off the trend of incessant telemetry Regardless. Glad you found your greener pastures, after much thinking and given the domination of the (good) universal formats, Mint will do me just fine. Even if Wayland support is still experimental
Facts. I legit had to dual-boot Ubuntu just to print stuff on a perfectly good printer that Windows had no drivers for, and HP never made any apparently. Plug it into Linux, boom right there in an instant. I've never installed anything on my Mac or iPhone and I use multiple different printers with them very often without any issue. It's actually kind of incredible how bad Windows is with printers. It's like I did all the programming for it without any assistance or code editing. (Note I suck at programming, and haven't done it in years.)@@RadikAlice
i actually had a laptop similar to the specs of this one! it wasnt that bad it could actually run games pretty well at low settings ofc. although this laptop doesnt look very good because of this video, I think with a little bit of tinkering with the storage and operating system, I think it can be perfectly usable.
I have this, it's perfect for my needs and it is not my primary device. I use it for accessing a web based client management system, client notes, and for sitting online tests at my uni. It's so small and portable, and if it dies or I lose it who cares? I haven't tried gaming on it (why would you??), I have barely used it for CZcams etc, but it's fine. My least favourite thing is definitely windows and how everything including the desktop automatically saves to the cloud and opens across devices, so for this one I logged in with a fresh account which solved that issue for my specific use case. It's a good reminder to buy for use case and not just price.
tiny11 could also be a good choice, but the emmc storage in that Lenovo might be too slow. I installed it on an old 4GB Acer laptop with similar specs as the one in the video (but Intel instead of AMD chipset) and it runs great, but it does have a real SSD that's much faster than emmc.
Had an idea pad 1100(?) Back in uni. First thing I did was install Linux and it made the experience so much better. Downside was the laptop shat itself on a boot loop and killed the shit flash storage
Just want to add, the fact the cover is red is a great feature. We sell plenty of Lenovo laptops where its either black or has a red outline, and people open tickets when their webcam isn't working. Those tickets are the easiest to close but still a waste of time.
These tiers of laptops/computers are for old people who *THINK* they're getting a good deal, when they're spending money on complete junk. My grandma is one of them. "It's just so slow, can you speed it up?" No, because it's e-waste and I told you they are junk.
I am a Lenovo guy. Once upon a time, I had an IdeaPad, but it was a little more pricey than what you spent, and it was adequate. Then I got a Lenovo Yoga Book. Still just shy of $1000, and it served me well for a good four years before becoming sluggish. I shoveled out a good chunk of change just recently on a ThinkPad, and it is night and day. The ThinkPad is hands down the best computer I have ever used, and I once owned a MacBook. It has taken every game I have thrown at it. When it comes right down to it, it's all about how deep your wallet is. Lenovo is actually a very good brand if you can afford it. It really is one of those "go big or go home" brands.
he pulled out the laptop and i was like "holy fu this is what i have" (im typing on it now). the stats are a tiny bit better than this one. I just needed something decent, cheap, and something i can take on the go. I have a full PC at home. i dont need a $1000 laptop too
my personal laptop is a lenovo T440s. its not *great* but considering its pretty much 10 years old. it still runs great. ive got the original two batteries in it and get 6 hours of batt (on linux). its made me consider getting replacement batts.
@@kaozer666I have the higher end T440 that I use for school stuff and my god, one of the best $27 I’ve spent on a computer. I love the 2011 MacBook Pro that I also have, but the T440’s battery lasts forever in comparison.
@@pvic6959if you ever do need a $1000 laptop don't go for Lenovo. I have an $800 Lenovo and it does good enough but it got outdated faster than it's contemporaries and there were other laptops I could've bought at the same price point with better specs if I had paid better attention
I bought an Ideapad Gaming 3 laptop on sale last year (2022/3050 4GB/8GB DDR4/256GB SSD) and upgraded the storage and ram (2TB SSD/32GB DDR5...) for a shy of $1000 last year and so far it's been amazing with only a few hiccups like the screen isn't the best, or the standard lit keyboard have basically two settings of on and off, the internal speakers are a lot to be desired... BUT it's super quick when booting up, doing basic tasks like web browsing and decent enough for modern AAA games for my needs that it's somewhat replace my aging 8+ year old desktop that is running a 4790K/16GB DDR3/old 1TB (x3) HHD's that might be it's time for their EOL which I am freaking the fuck out but hopefully I can migrate my shit into one big ass SSD before my HHD's all fail one day... But other than than, I am really happy for my Lenovo laptop! I would buy a Lenovo laptop again in the future if it's a good deal.
I remember opening one of these A quarter of the motherboard is blank spots where chips should go (not blank space. empty spots where things clearly are missing) That's how these companies create the "starting price"
What you're describing is modularity and expandability They included places to put upgrades--something that is actually sorely lacking in the modern market. The alternative is to build a motherboard with only one set of hardware in mind, requiring the end user to purchase a new device any time they want better performance a few years later when software demands more power. To be clear-I'm not defending this hunk of junk. This laptop *sucks.* That's just not one of the reasons it sucks? It's a practice that should be applied in every product wherever possible.
I'm specifically calling out oems for selling "new" devices that suck from bootup to ewaste bin And nope, no (reasonable) upgrades possible for bare ram solder pads
@@wardedthorn6523 No, you should listen to the commenter. I know you want to think the best of this machine. But the comment is spot on. These are bad mobos in bad machines. The best you are going to do with these junkpiles is add RAM and a SSD and experience the bottleneck at the processor level.
Lol I'm a kid and I too opened an low range Lenovo nugget like this only worse with an unknown igpu and an celeron n4020.I thought I'm gonna upgrade the ram to 8gb but then saw the ram was soldered.
I have a full size Lenovo Laptop with an i3-1115G4, got it in 2021, features a touchscreen in glorious 768p but honestly I quite like it, sure the touchpad is garbage but it’ll let me run older gaming titles great! NFS most wanted 2012, hot pursuit remastered, battlefield 3, war thunder all just fine. For being such a budget machine its fine for my uses, i got a 3070 in my gaming rig so i didn’t need another one.. but being able to run old games that I love perfectly is more than enough for me.
The first thing you do when you get a windows machine is immediately get a new web browser. The fact that you can't just uninstall Microsoft Edge is annoying.
Lenevo's had some issues with some of their lower end models. I bought a netbook, x120e or something of that lot. Just moving files would max out the CPU and start throttling. Blew it out, reseated the heatsink, switched out the thermal paste and got a bit less throttling but it still was basically unusable. Even watching 720p youtube would get laggy. Their lines meant for commercial stuff are rock solid though, that's sorta their main business anyway.
And it`s actually impressive, how cheap you can get some of their older buisness models used. I got an old ThinkPad P51 with an i7, a nvidia quadro gpu and 32 GB of RAM for 300€ with windows installed. The thing is from around 2017 and can even run some older games like GTA V. I mean yeah, you dont get any warrenty or stuff like that, but if you know your way around pc`s, it`s a great option.
I got an acer aspire 3 on a sale for $580, it goes amazing for how much i paid. Browsers and multiple documents no worries. 5th gen ryzen and 8gb of ddr5
The thing is, Lenovo is capable of making some really good laptops. I have a school-issued ThinkPad and it's great for all my engineering courses and it runs games pretty well. (all on Windows 11) It's just that their cheaper stuff has a noticeable difference in quality.
My middle school had low end think pads years ago running windows 7. They were quite terrible, when I got to HS they upgraded to the Lenovo yoga series of think pads running windows 8.1 (even though windows 10 just had been released). Night and day difference in quality.
watching this video on one of those laptops. It's been in use for under a year and it's already on its deathbed. The plastic is literally falling in chunks, the hinge is stiff and causes the screen to disconnect itself, the dash key is just missing entirely, it doesn't read SD cards properly, and last night while trying to stream a game on Discord it was running Donkey Kong Country 1 at 6 frames per second. Truly amazing
Mine is 2 years old and the tab, caps lock, backspace, and T buttons just straight up stopped working. Two weeks after it just entirely stopped connecting to any wifi or hotspot network.
I too have this laptop with slightly better specifications though. i havent had tooooo many issues. there are some. however i have a PC at home, i just need something to take if i need it. Funnily enough this is better than my old $800 laptop which at the end would struggle HARD
as someone who works in IT, we used to recommend lenovo to our clients when they needed new machines. the ideapad, and all of the issues you described and more (on the mid-high tier models to be clear, we weren't buying literal e-waste as depicted in the video lol), constantly, over and over again, as well as issues with other models and products, is why we changed to HP
This reminds me of when I got a $300 laptop from Walmart. My line of thinking was, "It's not cheap. It must be good." I'm shocked I got Hearthstone to run at a consistent 40fps. I'm utterly shocked I was able to edit and render videos, let alone record them too.
I've owned 2 Lenovo laptops in my life. First one I've used for like 7 or 8 years and now my grandma is using it. Absolute warrior. Now I have a gaming Legion and I love it. Great keyboard, and especially the price to performance ratio is splendid Cheap laptops are shit. If you can't spend more than 300-400€ for a laptop, get a refurb, don't get a brand new nugg
Can definitely get behind this, even with more expensive laptops look on the second hand market cause I managed to snag a hp victus 16 for 800 in a like new condition from cashies. I think I only got it for that cause whoever set the price must have been looking at the US price (800 new). Been happy with it since and hasn't failed yet
refurbs are definitely better. i got a 160 usd refurbished laptop back in 2020 and it still gets a lot of use today and it's fine. just had to get the battery replaced once. Edit: 2020, not 2021
Some people get really defensive about cheap electronics, too. In the words of Linus "Tech tips" Sebastian, "I'm not telling you to get more money, I'm telling you to spend it like not an idiot"
@@beenguy5887 Even Linus said countless times that if you're going cheap, either buy used or buy refurbed. Cheap laptops and cheap GPUs are a very bad deal and pretty much e-waste. By buying used and refurbed you're avoiding making a new device for just a bit longer Dear Apple, this is sustainability, not a "refurbished" M1 Macbook that's 100 USD cheaper than a brand new one
Most of my teenage years were spent with cheap laptops like this (yes plural, they would always break within a year or so). Trying to get games to run was almost more fun than actually playing them, it was always a surprise to see what would work. Ended up mostly playing older games. Nowadays I'm spoiled by my mid-range desktop running linux. I've still got a spot in my heart for these things, but 4 gigs of RAM was what I was running on these nuggets back in 2016. Would love to see linux on this thing.
Yeah I had a Celeron 900mhz and 1 or 2GB RAM running Windows 7 x64 in 2016. I wish I knew how to install Linux then because it was awfully slow and unstable on Wndows 7. BSOD'd all the time, not sure if that was dying hardware, driver issues or just crap hardware but I was less tech-savvy then.
Core memory unlocked I remembered running GTA 5 on my asus crappy laptop with nvidia 610m, somehow managed to make it run 60 fps while the game looked like dogshit, tons of fun tweaking the setting file to optimise the gpu and the ram
Same. I actually kinda glad I'm growing up with this pile of shits because I actually learned a lot of things when trying to make things work in that pile of shit.
lmao i lived out of a laptop like that for way too long in college. sometimes when i think my big pc is running bad i boot up the old laptop to remind myself how much worse it could be. it keeps me humble.
I keep a laptop with windows 7 for the exact opposite reason, whenever I'm pissed with my powerful windows 10 pc I start the old win7 laptop and see what could've been
ahh I am not the only one, when my laptop does a little hiccup here and there (very rare but it happens) I always get reminded of my dark part with old office laptops, then suddenly I am very grateful for what I got now
I'd be super interested in seeing a video of you installing a Linux distro like Linux Mint on that Lenovo and see a before and after. Would be a massive test to see how far Linux has come and also be a really good tool for the community to see how we could improve the experience! May be worth a look :)
@@mariusiordan5421 They're probably one of those people that "tried" to use Linux while not being familiar with it. More than likely, instead of researching first, they went straight to a power user distro instead of something previous-Windows-user friendly, then assumed every Linux distro is the same way and decided they simply _must_ tell everyone Linux is unbearable at every opportunity.
I actually bought a laptop almost identical to this one a couple years ago(i think it was just an older model) Its shit, but perfect for my use case. I already had a gaming desktop at home, and simply needed any laptop that could connect to the internet to remote into my desktop for classes at uni. I feel kinda bad that I contributed to these continuing to get made, but I knew it was the right device for my use case.
windows 11 i think just sets up onedrive automatically once you set it up with an MS account. i had it happen on a client's computer at least once. super frustrating
@@jboby93 Wait a sec, so win11 doesnt even give you an option to not run their crap? I knew that newer versions were worse (tho win10 is bearable, but i only use it cause by some reason dx12 doesnt work on win8, i wonder why 🤔), but no thanks, maybe linux is an option after all. Will try it out when microsoft tries this garbage again.
yep, i had to get windows 11 recently and- for context, i make music, and in order to make my music i need to have audio files... onedrive syncd audio files 💀 so a few days in my FL studio save files were opening with an error that audio files were missing. windows 11 would have been perfectly fine for my experience if it didnt do shit without your permission while technically doing it with your permission
@@MandrakeGuySwitch to Mac with macOS you wont run into any unnecessary or greedy problems that Microsoft can bless you with. Especially for making music I can imagine how much better a Mac would be.
You can buy the cheapest, as long as it's not eMMC. That's what's destroying the usability of these machines, in most of these the storage is worse than a 5400rpm hard drive.
@@Nor-tc8vzyep but the EMMC storage was not soldered and you could easily upgrade it to a 1TV SSD. The cheapest steamdeck model existed purely for people that wanted to add in their own drive.
@@Nor-tc8vzIt's decent, not great or anything but gets the job done and doesn't really hold the console back. There are different performance levels of eMMC storage and the steam deck is probably using something better than the bottom of the barrel stuff that gets shoved in these laptops.
Lenovo has great Linux support, so you can get more power out of it with that. Also you could have saved ~100$ if you refused the pre installed Windows (which you can get back afterwards in the EU).
Seriously, i have an asus cheapo celeron or atom laptop, i installed manjaro plasma, and it runs smooth. This being an amd based system should make it perform better
I have an ideacentre gaming 5i desktop and couldn't install Ubuntu. But that a issue I fixed later by disabling secure boot. Yes can agree. Lenovo's are great lil machines
Agree, they officially support Ubuntu IIRC. Everything works fine on my three thinkpads, except qualcomm wifi sometimes. On thinkpads even macOS works well, at least last time I did it.
When I was young and making a Christmas list, I saw a tablet for like $49 in the brochure of the toy store. So I circled it and ended up getting it for Christmas. What a nugget it was. It was branded as a Polaroid and had a TN screen that, even dead on, looked washed out and weirdly bright in certain spots. It had a difficult time running cut the rope and trying to use the browser was hopeless. I also think it had like 4GB of storage. I used it for one day and just chucked it in a box to never use again.
I l've had a table that has 2gb of storage and it was called something like "e-net" what a stupid nugget, the screen was stupidly bad if you looked at it from a different angle you wont see anything and when you click anything it has a "tst" sound it was running ice cream cake android
@@oohshiny8713And out ONLY saviour being Samsung of all things, but then they muddy it all up with their shit Tab A/E series. The Galaxy Tab S6 Lite though is a steal when on sale for $250 USD. I actually use it and don't want to throw it across the room, even if it isn't the smoothest vs a $400 iPad, but it's half the cost and even comes with the pen.
It doesn't help that there are relatively few android apps that support a tablet form factor very well. Hopefully with the Pixel Tablet coming out that'll begin to change. I'd love a tablet again but I'm not willing to go anywhere near apple@@oohshiny8713
You could see how much more responsive this nugget is with linux installed? :D Would be cool to see a comparison between Windows and literally any flavour of Linux on this machine!
this looks (and performs) very similar to the laptop i tried everything to stop my parents from buying. they 'couldn't justify' spending any more on a laptop. they lasted a month with it and then spent £550 on a new one lol
Basically my childhood laptop,i had an asus x540s with a Pentium n3700 and 4 gigs of ram with a 500gb hhd, cost about 200$ when my parents got me it, it sure was fun downloading every performance mod possible to get acceptable fps in Minecraft
The fact the benchmark runs better than windows is a sight to see
The fact that Time Spy runs _at all_ was a sight to see.
people may shit on this laptop but that it was able to run heaven on ultra settings AT ALL is pretty impressive..... honestly if you look at the price/value ratio, the rtx4090 is the faaaaaaaaar bigger scam
Windows 10 is ok
Windows xp is forever
Windows 10 is ok
Windows xp is forever
Windows 10 is ok
Windows xp is forever
It's an extremely "drummer" move to instinctually demonstrate 3 FPS by becoming a metronome.
Can’t resist a triplet groove
@@kaitlyn__L
Broke: 3fps
Woke: 60bpm 8th note triplets
do drummers use metronomes?
@@parrotttt they ARE the metronome!
(Serious answer: not being one myself i can’t speak from experience but afaik it’s only used very sparingly for initial timekeeping training, early on in their career.)
@parrotttt no need for one once you know 60 bpm as most songs use multiples of 30 anyways
5:37 “oh no.. this unresponsive page is unresponsive”
Fun Fact: On my T490s, which was on the very expensive side of Lenovo laptops, the webcam blocker (Called “Privacy Shutter” here) is black, with a *red dot* in the middle. That was so confusing at first, as it looks *exactly* like a “Recording” icon. To add to that, there still is the unblocked lens of the IR face recognition camera next to it. So it really looks like “Yes, this position means that the lens right next to me is now recording.”
The funny thing is that he said that when the computer wasn't even booted yet 😂😂
I had to live out of a $300 laptop back when I didn't have a home. You learn a lot about making a junk laptop run reasonably well when it's all you got in your life.
That's around £160 (assuming you mean Australian dollars)!
When I had to live on a cheap laptop, I got a decent quality HP business laptop for £120, with an i5-3320m, 8GB of RAM, Windows 7 Pro (free update to Win 10 Pro), and a 500GB hdd. The screen was only 1366*768, but it was bright and usable, extremely basic but good enough. It destroyed laptops like the one in the video.
The HD4000 graphics might be extremely limited, but you can play countless classic PC games, even some modern indie games with no issues. You could play GTAV surprisingly well with some tweaks. And it was a great emulation machine, unlocking thousands of games. Never any lag clicking, or browsing online, or anything else really. Battery wasn't too bad either, obviously that was the weakest part of the experience though.
With a £20 ssd it was even better, and still less than a brand new junk laptop like in the video.
my first laptop for college had a 32GB emmc, of which the windows OS took about two thirds. i switched over to linux for it real fast
I had a new 2GB RAM laptop once, which was bad to begin with, but it was the first machine I used with Windows 8. Virtually unusable out of the box.
This video made me nostalgic for the poor days when I was navigating incredibly slow dingus laptops of yesteryear.
@@wyterabitt2149 USD. But it had an A8-7410 AMD APU and came stock with 4GB of ram (I upgraded it to 8GB DDR3-1866) and a 1TB HDD (swapped it to a 500GB SSD)
I installed a modded windows 10 on it that had a lot of MS features and bloat removed, which made it run pretty reasonably well, I was able to run some modded Skyrim on it, tho by around level 40 the save bloat would overwhelm the cpu.
I also dual-booted it with Phoenix OS, which was a linux based Android OS, and for quite some time that let me play mobile games much better than phones could, so that's honestly where I did a lot of my gaming on that laptop for awhile.
when i was in college, with classmates who had $1,000 gaming laptops for coding and game development, my laptop was a $100 open-box dell lattitude with 4gb of RAM and a 64gb EMMc drive. we HAD to do our work in Windows so i just kinda had to make do.
It's nuts that people buy these mostly for their grandparents or their kids, precisely the types of user that are the most impatient when things are slow and not working as they should
Exactly or how some people will cheap out on laptopa for employees and then complain that shit doesn't get done.
@@hermitgreennfelt that in my soul. All I need to do with my laptop at work is type two reports a day and read two reports. It shits itself if you open chrome and word at the same time. So sometimes we share laptops and use two at once- one for pulling up the report on chrome, one for typing shit.
@@degeneratepervert62554 gigs of ram should be illegal nowadays lmao, the difference I noticed when going from 4 to 16gbs is undescribable and I'm aware that 16 is _only_ mid end, crazy how there's hordes of cash grab laptops still being sold with only 4
@@degeneratepervert6255 at least it is that simple, imagine needing to do a bunch of designs(using stinky Corel draw) on a 6gb 2nd Gen i3
@@degeneratepervert6255 Wait really? That's insanely inefficient and also sounds incredibly frustrating for you guys to have to deal with. Sheesh.
I remember having one of these because my dad refused to buy me a mac because "you're just using it for school" - only for me to challenge him to try and use it for a day for his work. He bought me a macbook promptly after that
"best performing browser" as we watch it fail to perform basic tasks like starting up and opening a tab
The fact that this brand new pc runs exactly like the 13 year old desktops at school is insane
4GB RAM is pretty much same spec as a low-midrange machine from 13 years ago.
only if you upgrade it to 8gb+
That’s modern windows for you
i mean... my 16 yr old laptop runs even better than this
let alone my main laptop
Win11 is the problem here for a 4g laptop.
EMMC storage is basically equivalent to SD card quality storage. Trying to run a relatively storage intensive OS (especially on first boot - and associated updates) is going to be miserable. Combined with the tiny ram, this wasn't unexpected.
Yeah, its's the eMMC that really stinks it up.
I have a similar machine (Thinkpad 300e) and thinks that write a lot really bork it. It does run TMNT:Shredders Revenge well though and when it's settled down and just running something like Affinity Designer, it performs "okay",
eMMC is still faster than SD cards by a considerable margin. eMMC 5.1 maxes out at 330 MB/s read speeds, which is a bit below a decent SATA SSD but still faster than HDDs. But it depends on implementation if it'll even come close to those speeds, and of course if they're cheaping out then they're likely not using the latest eMMC either. SSDs are really cheap right now (but prices may be going up very soon), so it sucks they didn't just use that instead.
i had a netbook with that crap, it struggled with windows xp
@@Krossfyre the max read/write means almost nothing though, it's IOPS and all the little files that make slow storage so sluggish.
agree, however it is very sad any company is creating such computers, or an actual ewaste, when buying used business laptop for the same amount would get you 10x better machine. In any case, windows 11 is a horrible piece of spyware. I suggest, if it is possible, downgrade to windows 10. it will run smoother, without the need of creating a microsoft account, that they could lock when they like it.
Furthermore, it is quite ridiculous how Microsoft decided to not allow some "old" CPUs to get windows 11, because they are "too old" but they allow it to run on this garbage. 4GB of ram. what a nutjob. New 8GB rams (end user) go for less than 10€. I am sure they could source some for half of the cost.
This is really the nice thing about Chromebooks. If you do stuff all on a browser (pretty much everything can be done in a browser now), you can get a fairly well built and fairly fast Chromebook for 170 bucks
Limiting factor being internet speed
The thing I don’t like about chrome books is the same thing I don’t like about most Android devices. They become e-waste far quicker. At least on most laptops you can get more life out of them with Linux assuming the bios isn’t completely locked. Apple usually supports their stuff for longer but they’ve really not been doing good with newer iOS devices being good out of the box.
Companies talk about their environmental concern and produce tons of planned obsolescence ewaste. Sounds about right.
I’ve also found that they’re great machines for older people. No settings to screw up, no apps or malware to install and brick your PC (within reason). Just a browser for the web and a few barebones apps
Lots can be done in a browser. Lots of things absolutely should not be done in a browser. Chromebooks make sense for a certain crowd, I call them the Word Email Netflix users, but a lot of people might even be better off with a used Optiplex tower.
"Welcome to Microsoft Edge, the best performing browser on Windows"
Also Microsoft Edge: 0.5 fps
Gosh, this reminds me when I was working for Best Buy, and the amount of times I had to explain to customers why buying a cheap laptop was not a good idea. Those who listened got better deals. Those who didn't... Always returned to see me (I was Geek Squad, so computer tech) within 30 days complaining how slow the PC was and if I could do anything about it. Nope, I can't. Because you bought e-waste x3
The Best Buys I've worked at, we all affectionally called these models the "Chromebook Seller" because, at this point, a Chromebook is just a better device.
x3
Ah, now it makes sense.
Yeeees
Omg dude I kmow the pain
Worked at a shop that's like.. a "premium Best buy" in germany.
I had the same type of customers.
I had this one lady that wanted a cheap PC. I showed her a great budget model at like 400€. Too expensive.
I went down to 350€. It wasn't realy great... But if she was just gonna browse, Email and do online banking that'll be enough. TOO EXPENSIVE!
Next was 299€. A piece of shit. TOO EXPENSIVE
I spent an hour trying to explain to her that she already at the bottom of the barrel. She wouldn't accept it.
Came here to comment this. What really puzzles me is that most of the time these people are wearing Airpods Pro and carrying a $1000 iPhone. But honestly a 3-5 year old used laptop will be way better than this trash too.
i worked for Geek Squad too lol.... Double Agent 852. Actually, I started out as a Service Tech before Geek Squad was even a thing at BBY, and yes, PCHO dept sold crap e-waste computers all day long. Then lucky ol' me got to deal with every one of them when they came back the next day all pissed off wanting to return it. Then the CS reps would pass them off to me to try to prevent the return and the PCHO supervisor would get SUPER PISSED if I couldn't save the sale. I was like wtf do you expect when you're selling garbage product??? They would intentionally put customers into cheaper PC's so they could afford the stupid service plan. Ugh what a grind that was. Took the Geek Squad DA position as soon as it came up so I wouldn't have to deal with that shit anymore
My friend who worked at Best Buy was telling me all about how people would constantly come into the store to buy their kids the cheapest laptop on sale back when the 2020 lock downs were happaning and everyone was doing online school. He had the same laptop returned 7 times!! He kept trying to tell people not to buy the low end computers because they would struggle to keep up with even the most basic 3rd grader school work, and they didn't listen! I can't believe junk like this is even being sold anymore.
hands down the worst company I've ever worked for was best buy... I remember experiencing this too. I finally got out of having to work retail and dealing with the idiots thankfully
Getting a second-hand proper office laptop from a few years ago is almost always the better alternative to buying a new bottom of the barrel laptop.
I think that’s why there’s a general dislike of windows from Mac people. A solid chunk of the machines that come with windows don’t have the horsepower to just work in a normal manner and windows machines therefore offer up horrible experiences.
Yep. It's better to spend an extra 100 to 200$ just to get something that won't be a headache, will run 1080p videos and will have enough space for windows updates in the future.
@@jimfixespixelsPersonally I have had some bad Macs cough* Intel *cough. I'm actually glad Apple has ditched Intel as the M series is pretty great. However I still hate certain things that Apple does, like charging an arm and a leg for storage and ram.
Windows isn't that bad once you get it all set up and luckily there's an app that makes it really easy to turn off all the bullshit in windows. I haven't had any problems with windows since setting it up, however Mac OS requires none of that.
Rule no.1: you HAVE to let windows load before doing anything!
Windows is checking for faults in itself, this takes time
windows is itself a fault
To be fair, this is basically a Lenovo Chromebook but instead it runs Windows. It's literally just like one at this point
When I worked at Microsoft we were instructed to tell customers that Windows 10 would "last forever" and receive unlimited updates. Windows 11 has been such a misstep for the company. It runs so much worse and they made UI changes that did nothing to streamline the Windows experience. The first 8 minutes of this video genuinely resembles the majority of people I've helped when they need to install Windows 11 to a new PC...
windows 11 manages to make it even more annoying to make a local account as the only account out of the box.
ach and the song and dance to jump through thoops to just have a movable taskbar. and it doesn't do anything better than 10, they just didn't port some virtualization stuff back to base 10 and by port I mean just enable.. ffs.
From 2019-2023 I was using a 2 core, 4gb of ram Ideapad S145. For how cheap it was it ran windows 10 pretty quick, and would run minecraft at 30fps while occasionally burning my finger tios off. I moved it to Windows 11 mid last year, and it was chugging like a train. Low end devices shouldn't run windows 11.
To be fair, Windows 10 isn't much better. If you install any major update you get re-asked the 'please can I spy on you' questions.
Yup. Had pretty much the same experience on my $2000 gaming rig so I wouldn't necessarily blame the hardware, that actually seems like it would've been a very decent entry level laptop if you were to upgrade the memory.
@@lasskinn474I vaguely remebered first setting up my Windows 11 laptop and I think I had to use a trick to bypass the account creation. That was before I wiped it with the intent to get rid of it. Had to deal with account creation.
This was the computers that my school gave us. It was impressive how much we managed to get done on them in spite of their problems
School giving out computers to kids should be a major prop, even if they arent too good.
I'll rather this than chromeos school let us keep the laptop they gave us but we literally can't use them unless we log in with school credentials and we all know why that bad the best part is that we all was locked out of our emails about a year ago so now that Chromebook is completely useless and yeah I've tried putting Linux on it no dice
@@pedrosilvamusicianHere in Argentina there were programming courses for universities and not only were they free, they gave you a laptop for completing them. I chose one that, although it was generic, came with an 11th gen Intel i5, 8GB of RAM and 480GB of SSD.
Dude the amount of bootleg youtube sites I found back in the day. Or popping on Mad Max on google drive.
Well funny enough my free school gave me something much better it had ryzen 5 pro in it it was tho blocked to not download anything but it could easly run minecraft and roblox and such that was on store
This exact computer got me through my formative years as a programmer, its a trooper that, you got to bear with it but ubuntu and patience is the recipee for success there
When building a new computer last year, I needed to take it in for maintenance at a nearby Centrecom because something was going wrong and I couldn't figure it out after hours of troubleshooting (it got fixed, thankfully), and I mentioned that I have Windows 10 installed, and would rather not have 11 installed if they could help it. The guys there were so "Yeah, mate, understandable" about it that, despite not selling copies of 10 anymore, having copies of 11 they presumably want sold, and not having my copy of 10 to use for installation, they made sure to get 10 on it when they fixed it. This was only a little bit before the end of last year, too.
It's amazing how Windows likes to make their OS' so poorly that the drive to do good for another human being overcomes corporate nickel-diming. I would have settled for it at the time, genuinely, but the guys there just said "nah, mate, he brought it in with a problem, he doe'nt need to take it home with another".
To prevent e-waste like this, there should be minimum benchmark scores they need to get to be able to sell them.
well problem is, benchmarks are not that bad, that Athlon should run around i3-7100 pefrormance, far away from not being usable.
Problem is overall build and that funny 4GiB ram with windows on emmc storage
This computer would fly if it had Zorin OS instead of Windows
@@timiko4 so why tf did they sell it with those?
yes
@@Vexcenot to get the price down to a 200usd mark. You really can't fit a good ssd there let a lone a 8gb of ram without exceeding the budget.
Man, I sure love that Microsoft created S mode to make installing apps easier
this better be sarcasm
At least now it's a mode you can disable, it used to be a complete hardware structure that'd prevent you from installing non store apps, and now the windows 8 store is dead so those pcs are just landfill material
Technically true, if you want to treat you computer like a smartphone.
Which is antithetical to the decades of WinNT's legacy that Microsoft has worked so hard to keep up and is the reason why people use Windows in the first place. If people wanted easy app installs they'd buy a Chromebook.
Microsoft truly is in it's corporate "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" desperation phase. Everything in Win11 just screams "we haphazardly added this because we believe this will bring in profit", especially with how easy it is to remove and restore Win10 levels of functionality.
When I was looking for a new laptop and found the perfect one I noticed it was running Windows 11 S Mode.
I quickly got googling to see how to disable it and the moment I got it and powered it on I just disabled it.
Really useless feature, you want security? Don't download from shady sites, have an antivirus and anti-malware and don't be an idiot
@@aseldesumy first ever computer was like this
"It's not gonna be a chromebook" Buys a laptop with Microsoft's version of the Chrome OS
was actually feeling sad today but I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel and this video, cheered me right up
You can skip signing in on W11 but it requires opening a command prompt through a shortcut. Love Windows 11.
Or modify the ISO before flashing to usb and installing it so it skips the signing in.
Unlike older versions of windows
wasnt there an option to skip it before? and who tf is in charge of removing it?
I thought you could type something like no@thankyou or something in the email address but wouldn’t be surprised if they removed it
@@lexwelsh3511 This works now no longer do you need to do the cmd thing :) i was screaming this at the video when i seen the log in page haha
I know it won't happen, but I really think it would be cool to see a "Getting the nugget laptop to run 'well' " video using Linux. Just curious what the difference would be
Was about to comment this, he even mentioned Linux in the video. This video would be really really dope!
Ooo I third this
at least 10 times faster because linux is, you know, free and has no bloat!
I own this exact laptop and my first move was to install Linux Mint.
It runs fine.
Unlike Windows, in which I might as well have a coffee break if I need to switch tabs.
Ooh, as someone who wants to try making the switch myself I would love that
Might as well have called this "Wade struggles with windows for 12 minutes"
My parents got me one of these Lenovos on a Black Friday sale when I started university in 2018. I was studying graphic design. I used that thing until I actually broke it. Looking back on it, I ask myself how on earth I let myself be in the trenches like this lmao
Not hearing the “and thanks to all my patrons” at the end really caught me off guard, I was 100% expecting it.
Yeah I liked the scrolling names, we should bring them back but for Floatplane instead
I'm still deep into binging all the after shows and didn't even realize this was actually main show 🤣
When I worked at BestBuy, the amount of people that would flock to the store to get these device when they were on sale was astronomical. We would always insist on getting something else because we would show them how slow it was. A week later we would have a stack of these things in returns all with "too slow" and "can't run games". Classic.
It's wild that people actually think these things can run games
@@cole4987 It might... If you put Linux onto it.
Again, Windows is 'packing peanuts' for OEMs these days.
8:53 hope you're using your hands mate
he's using frank
@@AVI-lh6rmhis one-eyed snake?
happiest person setting up a new windows os laptop
As someone who grew up on low-end laptops the urge to shout "give it a sec!" was so strong at the start of this. Windows is really the biggest problem with a lot of this, especially W11. It's so bloated. I had a very similar Lenovo Ideapad with a low end AMD A-series APU, and I'd still be using that thing if it didn't get stolen, was a tank running Linux.
Sameeeeee
Unfortunately Lenovo is stuck with Windows forever and ever until the current CEO dies
I know next to nothing about computers but I somehow understood everything you just said.
yoo max caulfield pfp
The main issue is mostly likely the eMMc storage
The fact that it even managed to run those benchmarks and not pepper you with shrapnel from it exploding is pretty impressive ngl.
It is a good CPU bottlenecked by Windows 11 and eMMC storage
9:22 The screen being the only light in the pitch black room, the clapping from Wade and the credits really makes this feel like you went to a Movie Theater and managed to get an entire screening to yourself and a random stranger you don't know who is sat behind you.
My father in law keeps buying these to facilitate his gambling addiction, then complains when they crap out every three months due to popups and malware lol
My favorite thing about this channel and why I get excited over a new upload is the sheer joy and glee in his voice over silly things like absolute garbage iPods turning on or this laptop topping out at 3fps. It's the kind of stupid joy we should all strive for
Agreed. I wish everybody in life had the same enthusiasm as DankPods about mundane things such as iPods or unique things such as rare 1990s MP3 players. :) Another thing, DankPods could review the coolest computer, the Framework Laptop. Parts can be swapped out of that thing.
The bowed keyboard in my experience is usually a sign of a spicy pillow underneath. Terrible if it came out the box with one LOL, be safe with that thing.
I've worked with these dinguses before. They don't have the battery there, it's just bad build quality and warping plastic. You can even press down on the bowing and make them wobble because it's basically hollow inside.
Bruuuuv and he was fookin' poonchin' et!
That could've gone extremely poorly, lol.
I have the same PC but with an actual usable processor and it's just as bent as this dingus
@@l.a1532 I suggest taking the back off your laptop and checking if the battery is a hot pillow- if it is, you should get a new one for like 20~60$- it could save your life to replace it.
Or just buy a steam deck for like 300$ and save your self the hassle and get a really good pc.
or just build gaming pc for 400 dollars and get a very capable pc
The fact that the benchmark ran at all is something to behold - now try that again running Linux!
i work at a JB Hi-FI and we've had that Leader laptop on display for i think 3 years now; it's our only unit left
i don't think it's ever going to sell
Now I want to see Wade install a really lightweight Linux distro on this laptop and see how it goes! It's a perfect candidate since it doesn't have Nvidia bullcrap in it, no need for fighting drivers and screen tearing.
@@ComixProductionsBro that’s what he said?
@@ComixProductions Ahhhhh the innocence of not having to try and make Linux work with an Nvidia GPU and then eventually giving up and disabling the GPU and using IG. Also, my Raspberry pi 4 runs faster than this Windows laptop, Linux would be a vast improvement to this.
@@ComixProductionsthe comment said ‘since it doesn’t have nvidia’ what’s your point, and have you attempted to install Linux on machine with nvidia graphics, most installers don’t support the proprietary drivers.
Practically any Linux distro will run buttery smooth on a machine like this. You'll have responsiveness unheard of on a CPU like this. Until you launch a browser.
I was tinkering with an old EeePC (practically the same as Wade's) that I put Windows 7 on at one point, and it run awfully. I just wanted it to be a little netbook to chat on while gaming on my main PC but it wouldn't do a damn thing as soon as I launched anything internet-related. It came with Windows XP and that on its own still runs beautifully. Until you launch a browser :-P
@@samsam21amb OHHHHHHH
I'm so sorry, I thought they meant that the laptop wouldn't have pre installed Nvidia software on Linux, not that it doesn't have Nvidia components. And no, I haven't installed Linux on a laptop before apart from once back when my dad did it on an old HP Elite book to try and see what was wrong with the SSD. I tried reading the comment again and again to understand what was meant but I simply didn't get it. Sorry.
Im curious how it would work with an older OS, that laptop would be unbelievably power in the 90s and early 2000s
Yeah, 4gb of ram is only something that'll work like 10 years ago. It's not gonna cut it nowadays
That's another problem.
Drivers, newly made low end machines can't run on older OS that it wasn't made of.
This is peak eWaste. The only way you can use this is with Linux.
Or some modded Windows, like Tiny11@@claudiobizama5603
Yeah, but that was 30 years ago...
Watch matkc's modern windows 98 saga. It's basically what your talking about and it shows quite a few issues with this.
Have you talked about the sony WH-1000xm5’s yet? I’d love to see a video on those if you haven’t already, I couldn’t find one but it’s maybe in a different themed vid?
I have this. I fucking hate it. I've already punched it 10 times and it's STILL ALIVE
I had the Intel Celeron version of this exact laptop. Crummy old thing, could barely load Chrome without passing out, but dear lord did it save my sanity throughout the pandemic. Basically graduated from school on it. I had to load up Google Meet half an hour before classes if I wanted to be on time XD
Still, given that this was all I could afford at the time, it'll always have a special place in my heart. Thank you, you beautiful old nugget.
The Athlon is actually fairly decent for basic PC use. The problem here is the emmc storage (incredibly bad, not even Linux can fix it) and the low 4GB of RAM (this can be fixed with a light OS like some Linux flavours).
I have the Intel Pentium version of this.
If you really need cheap basic computer, it's better going with a Chromebook.
I have one, too. Barely runs windows and only has like 64 gigs storage. But surprisingly, it runs older games fine, Hell, half life 2 was running at a playable framerate.
@@leonroI actually got a Chromebook for Christmas after asking for one. It was actually a nice experience!
It was stuck with 2GiB of ram, but it ran linux fine. The lack of storage was an issue though. 16GB of storage is not enough, even under ChromeOS. I miss that thing, I accidentally crunched the CPU to death mounting the motherboard to a piece of wood ;(
Hell, I installed ide to sdcards in my 2000's machines. SO MUCH FASTER THEN HARD DRIVES.
I'm putting the blame on Windows and putting swap files on nand flash.
I remember that we have windows laptops for middle school and they ran terribly, but anyone that took the technology class (I did) he would upgrade our computers RAM without the school knowing, he'd make it an assignment where we open it up, take out the 2gb of RAM, and plug in the 16 GB one, super fun and he would always guide us. Our laptops were always the fastest lmao
I don't quite miss the 1" thick laptops, but I had to work on an old 2010's era one recently and good lord they are so much easier to get into. Like 4 screws and 5 minutes to swap the drive, getting the donor one out probably took half an hour and a full iFixit kit lol. (plus of course half of it was clips so it'll never go back together quite right)
@@LizlodudeI My favorite laptop is my current dell latitude 7490. The higher end versions have i7s and thunderbolt 3. The nice thing is that 8 captive screws and the metal plate comes off with no clips to break. Battery, nvme ssd, wlan card, wwan card, and dual ram slots are all accessible and I iirc the charging port is on a daugterboard. I love that machine. I also picked it up for only $160
@@deepspacecow2644 yeah the Latitudes and some XPS seem to be pretty good. I have a 2020 model Inspiron and it's a piece of junk. Really hoping Framework adds a touchscreen and IR camera option before mine actually kills itself.
@@Lizlodude My main laptop is an old ThinkPad T440p which can be opened in few seconds. It has a bottom panel which can be slide off after removing 2 screws, it gives you access to the socketed RAM, CPU, WiFi card, 3G/4G modem card which could be replaced with an SSD, 2.5" SSD, and a screw which holds in the DVD drive (which could also be replaced with an SSD).
The i7-4800MQ 4c/8t mine has is more than enough for what I use the laptop 99% of the time. It's a lot more powerful than the Athlon Silver 3050U in the video, though the old i7 is also a lot more power hungry. And of course the T440p has a real SSD instead of a crappy slow eMMC storage
I brought my own personal laptop to school, before I had a laptop, I was carrying a desktop class to class in highschool, the desktop was one I pulled out of the garbage at a computer store... yes I found a computer in the garbage that was faster than the school's, it is an i7 4790 and 16gb ram, anyways, I think every student should pull a computer out the trash and use it, it'd save the school money too
i have the same lenovo and i love it despite the problem it has with wifi + freezes. you can easily debloat windows and stuff..
"She's Not One Finger"
😉🤣
Got my mom a similar nugget, and honestly the best thing to do with these is to just preinstall firefox, an adblocker and debloat the hell out of windows.
If all you need to do is surf the web, check emails and type shit in word, these things can actually be decent. She loves it and has never had an issue.
Also helps if you throw a 20$ 4gb or even 8gb ram stick, these laptops usually have a free slot that's easy to get at
I got some no name laptop on a heavy discount for 99€. It's got the worst CPU that Intel currently makes but it seems to be way better than whatever that Athlon junk is.
Windows 11 performance is actually acceptable. But Windows itself is so awful, it drags the laptop from "pretty good for the price" to "borderline unusable". I'd install some good distro if I didn't need a few programs (for which I got the laptop to begin with) which will never work on Linux.
@@glossymouse7712I didn't know they still made CPU tribalism.
For real though, slap Linux on it and see how much better it can run. Windows 10 is trash on modern hardware let alone 11 on lower end stuff
This laptop damn sure needs one storage and ram upgrade.
Also at this price I sure got an older ryzen one and one m.2 ssd its flying now.
@@glossymouse7712I think you got an actual ssd. While this one got emmc storage , its like an sdcard
"The worst part of this machine is Windows" Wade summarized it all with that one sentence
Facts, no printer. Seriously Windows can’t print to save its life.
@@StudioBrock1337 For as bad as the Linux daily driver challenge went for Linus Tech Tips, it proved how much of printers "sucking" was Windows's fault
Windows 10 and 11 are such epic trash. At least 8.1 was very salvageable. I've since moved on to MX Linux.
@@arnox4554 I'll beg to differ. 10 is acceptable, but it did kick off the trend of incessant telemetry
Regardless. Glad you found your greener pastures, after much thinking and given the domination of the (good) universal formats, Mint will do me just fine. Even if Wayland support is still experimental
Facts. I legit had to dual-boot Ubuntu just to print stuff on a perfectly good printer that Windows had no drivers for, and HP never made any apparently. Plug it into Linux, boom right there in an instant.
I've never installed anything on my Mac or iPhone and I use multiple different printers with them very often without any issue. It's actually kind of incredible how bad Windows is with printers. It's like I did all the programming for it without any assistance or code editing. (Note I suck at programming, and haven't done it in years.)@@RadikAlice
i actually had a laptop similar to the specs of this one! it wasnt that bad it could actually run games pretty well at low settings ofc. although this laptop doesnt look very good because of this video, I think with a little bit of tinkering with the storage and operating system, I think it can be perfectly usable.
I have this, it's perfect for my needs and it is not my primary device. I use it for accessing a web based client management system, client notes, and for sitting online tests at my uni. It's so small and portable, and if it dies or I lose it who cares? I haven't tried gaming on it (why would you??), I have barely used it for CZcams etc, but it's fine. My least favourite thing is definitely windows and how everything including the desktop automatically saves to the cloud and opens across devices, so for this one I logged in with a fresh account which solved that issue for my specific use case. It's a good reminder to buy for use case and not just price.
that laptop would be absolutely usable with linux
Heck, even Win10 would be usable (I have something similar running 10 just fine)
tiny11 could also be a good choice, but the emmc storage in that Lenovo might be too slow. I installed it on an old 4GB Acer laptop with similar specs as the one in the video (but Intel instead of AMD chipset) and it runs great, but it does have a real SSD that's much faster than emmc.
Had an idea pad 1100(?) Back in uni. First thing I did was install Linux and it made the experience so much better. Downside was the laptop shat itself on a boot loop and killed the shit flash storage
@@vista9434emmc storage has entered the chat
It would fly with lubuntu. I have that jamed on an n23 chromebook and it soars
Just want to add, the fact the cover is red is a great feature. We sell plenty of Lenovo laptops where its either black or has a red outline, and people open tickets when their webcam isn't working. Those tickets are the easiest to close but still a waste of time.
These tiers of laptops/computers are for old people who *THINK* they're getting a good deal, when they're spending money on complete junk. My grandma is one of them. "It's just so slow, can you speed it up?" No, because it's e-waste and I told you they are junk.
My dad bought me this laptop for school this year. The last one i had that shit itself was the minecraft one from the start 💀
The fact of that it's such a nugget that you got an achievement for running the benchmark is gold
10:40
It even has a glowing icon, which means it's a _rare_ (less than 5% global) achievement lol
@@948320z indeed, it's a genuine rare nugget lol
I am a Lenovo guy. Once upon a time, I had an IdeaPad, but it was a little more pricey than what you spent, and it was adequate. Then I got a Lenovo Yoga Book. Still just shy of $1000, and it served me well for a good four years before becoming sluggish. I shoveled out a good chunk of change just recently on a ThinkPad, and it is night and day. The ThinkPad is hands down the best computer I have ever used, and I once owned a MacBook. It has taken every game I have thrown at it.
When it comes right down to it, it's all about how deep your wallet is. Lenovo is actually a very good brand if you can afford it. It really is one of those "go big or go home" brands.
he pulled out the laptop and i was like "holy fu this is what i have" (im typing on it now). the stats are a tiny bit better than this one. I just needed something decent, cheap, and something i can take on the go. I have a full PC at home. i dont need a $1000 laptop too
my personal laptop is a lenovo T440s. its not *great* but considering its pretty much 10 years old. it still runs great. ive got the original two batteries in it and get 6 hours of batt (on linux). its made me consider getting replacement batts.
@@kaozer666I have the higher end T440 that I use for school stuff and my god, one of the best $27 I’ve spent on a computer.
I love the 2011 MacBook Pro that I also have, but the T440’s battery lasts forever in comparison.
@@pvic6959if you ever do need a $1000 laptop don't go for Lenovo. I have an $800 Lenovo and it does good enough but it got outdated faster than it's contemporaries and there were other laptops I could've bought at the same price point with better specs if I had paid better attention
I bought an Ideapad Gaming 3 laptop on sale last year (2022/3050 4GB/8GB DDR4/256GB SSD) and upgraded the storage and ram (2TB SSD/32GB DDR5...) for a shy of $1000 last year and so far it's been amazing with only a few hiccups like the screen isn't the best, or the standard lit keyboard have basically two settings of on and off, the internal speakers are a lot to be desired... BUT it's super quick when booting up, doing basic tasks like web browsing and decent enough for modern AAA games for my needs that it's somewhat replace my aging 8+ year old desktop that is running a 4790K/16GB DDR3/old 1TB (x3) HHD's that might be it's time for their EOL which I am freaking the fuck out but hopefully I can migrate my shit into one big ass SSD before my HHD's all fail one day...
But other than than, I am really happy for my Lenovo laptop! I would buy a Lenovo laptop again in the future if it's a good deal.
Windows 11 is pretty much 90% bloat, better learn Linux boys cuz companies won't switch to that shit anytime soon
The just a moment part is actually just a century
So cool, turns any game into a slideshow!
lol true
and some games into a landmine
I remember opening one of these
A quarter of the motherboard is blank spots where chips should go
(not blank space. empty spots where things clearly are missing)
That's how these companies create the "starting price"
Some poor engineer was tasked with removing as many components as possible, and they clearly did their job, because the computer stil "works".
What you're describing is modularity and expandability
They included places to put upgrades--something that is actually sorely lacking in the modern market.
The alternative is to build a motherboard with only one set of hardware in mind, requiring the end user to purchase a new device any time they want better performance a few years later when software demands more power.
To be clear-I'm not defending this hunk of junk. This laptop *sucks.* That's just not one of the reasons it sucks? It's a practice that should be applied in every product wherever possible.
I'm specifically calling out oems for selling "new" devices that suck from bootup to ewaste bin
And nope, no (reasonable) upgrades possible for bare ram solder pads
@@wardedthorn6523 No, you should listen to the commenter. I know you want to think the best of this machine. But the comment is spot on. These are bad mobos in bad machines. The best you are going to do with these junkpiles is add RAM and a SSD and experience the bottleneck at the processor level.
Lol I'm a kid and I too opened an low range Lenovo nugget like this only worse with an unknown igpu and an celeron n4020.I thought I'm gonna upgrade the ram to 8gb but then saw the ram was soldered.
I have a full size Lenovo Laptop with an i3-1115G4, got it in 2021, features a touchscreen in glorious 768p but honestly I quite like it, sure the touchpad is garbage but it’ll let me run older gaming titles great! NFS most wanted 2012, hot pursuit remastered, battlefield 3, war thunder all just fine. For being such a budget machine its fine for my uses, i got a 3070 in my gaming rig so i didn’t need another one.. but being able to run old games that I love perfectly is more than enough for me.
love the frantic mouse movement
The first thing you do when you get a windows machine is immediately get a new web browser. The fact that you can't just uninstall Microsoft Edge is annoying.
Surely you can uninstall edge
Nope@@christianslaughter8724
@@christianslaughter8724 normally you can't, you have to tinker a lot with the OS to uninstall it
@@christianslaughter8724 you can but it's difficult
The first thing you do when you get a windows machine is immediately uninstall it and install a linux distro
Lenevo's had some issues with some of their lower end models. I bought a netbook, x120e or something of that lot. Just moving files would max out the CPU and start throttling. Blew it out, reseated the heatsink, switched out the thermal paste and got a bit less throttling but it still was basically unusable. Even watching 720p youtube would get laggy. Their lines meant for commercial stuff are rock solid though, that's sorta their main business anyway.
And their legion gaming series is the bomb. Been using one for two years and no complaints except for the wifi but that's more of an AMD thing
And it`s actually impressive, how cheap you can get some of their older buisness models used. I got an old ThinkPad P51 with an i7, a nvidia quadro gpu and 32 GB of RAM for 300€ with windows installed. The thing is from around 2017 and can even run some older games like GTA V. I mean yeah, you dont get any warrenty or stuff like that, but if you know your way around pc`s, it`s a great option.
Windows is free if you just ameilorate. @@ih4t3u28
I remember having an old vista box that would max out its single core dragging a selection box on the desktop. Good times.
2011 netbook slow?
This video probably has the goofiest Frank moment I've seen, it goes so well with the music
I just ordered the IdeaPad on amazon, then saw this video
Honestly the i3 versions of these ideapads are really decent. 8gb ram, 256gb ssd is perfect enough for basic things. Super decent.
can confirm! i bought one two years ago for basic schoolwork and put 16gb of ram into it and it runs everything really nicely!
I was gonna say, I could have sworn IdeaPad 3 was their LOWEST series
I got an acer aspire 3 on a sale for $580, it goes amazing for how much i paid. Browsers and multiple documents no worries. 5th gen ryzen and 8gb of ddr5
@@bluedogtransportwa Bad price if usd. I expect 16gb for that price.
yeah i got one with a 8300f i think it was
ran great compared to the nugget in the video lmao
The thing is, Lenovo is capable of making some really good laptops. I have a school-issued ThinkPad and it's great for all my engineering courses and it runs games pretty well. (all on Windows 11) It's just that their cheaper stuff has a noticeable difference in quality.
they are good, as long as you use legion series :D
Hehehe I had the thinkpad. It was a pile of reverbished garbage. They blue screened ALOT 😂 and this was elementary school.
what kinda of elementary school did you go to where they gave you thinkpads?!
the rule of lenovo is. if it doesn't say Thinkpad don't buy it
My middle school had low end think pads years ago running windows 7. They were quite terrible, when I got to HS they upgraded to the Lenovo yoga series of think pads running windows 8.1 (even though windows 10 just had been released). Night and day difference in quality.
What's fun is that it would actually be a decent laptop for browsing the internet if you installed Linux on this thing
When you first opened that laptop, it instantly gave me HP vibes 🤣
Insane that they put windows 11 on it, geuss they really care about selling features more then actual user experience
I hate chrome books but this is the only time they should’ve make it a chromebook
Edit : actually Linux would be better.
im fairly certain every single new pc being sold these days is gonna be preloaded with win 11 atp. it's depressing as hell
How?? My PC is 16gb ram i7 processor, etc and I can’t upgrade so how??
@@starcrysis23 Maybe not enough space on your system-partition.
@@starcrysis23 TPM
watching this video on one of those laptops. It's been in use for under a year and it's already on its deathbed. The plastic is literally falling in chunks, the hinge is stiff and causes the screen to disconnect itself, the dash key is just missing entirely, it doesn't read SD cards properly, and last night while trying to stream a game on Discord it was running Donkey Kong Country 1 at 6 frames per second. Truly amazing
wow...what a beast!
I remember using this laptop to open discord.
It took ONE HOUR FOR IT TO WORK!
Mine is 2 years old and the tab, caps lock, backspace, and T buttons just straight up stopped working. Two weeks after it just entirely stopped connecting to any wifi or hotspot network.
I too have this laptop with slightly better specifications though. i havent had tooooo many issues. there are some. however i have a PC at home, i just need something to take if i need it. Funnily enough this is better than my old $800 laptop which at the end would struggle HARD
as someone who works in IT, we used to recommend lenovo to our clients when they needed new machines. the ideapad, and all of the issues you described and more (on the mid-high tier models to be clear, we weren't buying literal e-waste as depicted in the video lol), constantly, over and over again, as well as issues with other models and products, is why we changed to HP
This reminds me of when I got a $300 laptop from Walmart. My line of thinking was, "It's not cheap. It must be good."
I'm shocked I got Hearthstone to run at a consistent 40fps. I'm utterly shocked I was able to edit and render videos, let alone record them too.
If I come to visit you in Australia can we do a benchmark of my Toshiba satellite 2012 vs this 😭
I've owned 2 Lenovo laptops in my life. First one I've used for like 7 or 8 years and now my grandma is using it. Absolute warrior. Now I have a gaming Legion and I love it. Great keyboard, and especially the price to performance ratio is splendid
Cheap laptops are shit. If you can't spend more than 300-400€ for a laptop, get a refurb, don't get a brand new nugg
Can definitely get behind this, even with more expensive laptops look on the second hand market cause I managed to snag a hp victus 16 for 800 in a like new condition from cashies. I think I only got it for that cause whoever set the price must have been looking at the US price (800 new). Been happy with it since and hasn't failed yet
refurbs are definitely better. i got a 160 usd refurbished laptop back in 2020 and it still gets a lot of use today and it's fine. just had to get the battery replaced once.
Edit: 2020, not 2021
Some people get really defensive about cheap electronics, too. In the words of Linus "Tech tips" Sebastian, "I'm not telling you to get more money, I'm telling you to spend it like not an idiot"
@@beenguy5887 Even Linus said countless times that if you're going cheap, either buy used or buy refurbed. Cheap laptops and cheap GPUs are a very bad deal and pretty much e-waste. By buying used and refurbed you're avoiding making a new device for just a bit longer
Dear Apple, this is sustainability, not a "refurbished" M1 Macbook that's 100 USD cheaper than a brand new one
Tried getting a legion and literally heated up and tried catching on fire
Most of my teenage years were spent with cheap laptops like this (yes plural, they would always break within a year or so). Trying to get games to run was almost more fun than actually playing them, it was always a surprise to see what would work. Ended up mostly playing older games. Nowadays I'm spoiled by my mid-range desktop running linux.
I've still got a spot in my heart for these things, but 4 gigs of RAM was what I was running on these nuggets back in 2016. Would love to see linux on this thing.
Yeah I had a Celeron 900mhz and 1 or 2GB RAM running Windows 7 x64 in 2016. I wish I knew how to install Linux then because it was awfully slow and unstable on Wndows 7. BSOD'd all the time, not sure if that was dying hardware, driver issues or just crap hardware but I was less tech-savvy then.
Core memory unlocked
I remembered running GTA 5 on my asus crappy laptop with nvidia 610m, somehow managed to make it run 60 fps while the game looked like dogshit, tons of fun tweaking the setting file to optimise the gpu and the ram
Same. I actually kinda glad I'm growing up with this pile of shits because I actually learned a lot of things when trying to make things work in that pile of shit.
im still using win 7 32bit for college and this video reminded me a lot of my frustration when using it
You said "Eugh!" to the booklet paper and I knew EXACTLY the texture you were experiencing even before you said it was "weirdly soft"
lmao i lived out of a laptop like that for way too long in college. sometimes when i think my big pc is running bad i boot up the old laptop to remind myself how much worse it could be. it keeps me humble.
I keep a laptop with windows 7 for the exact opposite reason, whenever I'm pissed with my powerful windows 10 pc I start the old win7 laptop and see what could've been
ahh I am not the only one, when my laptop does a little hiccup here and there (very rare but it happens) I always get reminded of my dark part with old office laptops, then suddenly I am very grateful for what I got now
I'd be super interested in seeing a video of you installing a Linux distro like Linux Mint on that Lenovo and see a before and after. Would be a massive test to see how far Linux has come and also be a really good tool for the community to see how we could improve the experience! May be worth a look :)
Linux is trash
@@notanetcher😂
@@notanetcher some kind of anti linux warrior, seen ya nearly on every comment about Linux 😂
Did it hurt your feelings or something?
@@mariusiordan5421 it ain't even worth replying to him lmao
Buddy's got some stuff to work out on his own
@@mariusiordan5421 They're probably one of those people that "tried" to use Linux while not being familiar with it. More than likely, instead of researching first, they went straight to a power user distro instead of something previous-Windows-user friendly, then assumed every Linux distro is the same way and decided they simply _must_ tell everyone Linux is unbearable at every opportunity.
My first laptop was a late late 90s lenovo. Glad to see some things never change.
I actually bought a laptop almost identical to this one a couple years ago(i think it was just an older model) Its shit, but perfect for my use case. I already had a gaming desktop at home, and simply needed any laptop that could connect to the internet to remote into my desktop for classes at uni. I feel kinda bad that I contributed to these continuing to get made, but I knew it was the right device for my use case.
Remote connection is such a underestimated power move that more people should use, especially to breathe life of older laptops.
@@Pedro-zh6kkjust need to be a high enough resolution screen and large enough
I'm surprised it ran that well while trying to sync the OneDrive junk you DIDN'T ASK TO SYNC onto it. That was probably bogging down the laptop a ton
windows 11 i think just sets up onedrive automatically once you set it up with an MS account. i had it happen on a client's computer at least once. super frustrating
@@jboby93 Wait a sec, so win11 doesnt even give you an option to not run their crap? I knew that newer versions were worse (tho win10 is bearable, but i only use it cause by some reason dx12 doesnt work on win8, i wonder why 🤔), but no thanks, maybe linux is an option after all. Will try it out when microsoft tries this garbage again.
yep, i had to get windows 11 recently and- for context, i make music, and in order to make my music i need to have audio files... onedrive syncd audio files 💀 so a few days in my FL studio save files were opening with an error that audio files were missing. windows 11 would have been perfectly fine for my experience if it didnt do shit without your permission while technically doing it with your permission
@@MandrakeGuySwitch to Mac with macOS you wont run into any unnecessary or greedy problems that Microsoft can bless you with. Especially for making music I can imagine how much better a Mac would be.
So glad I'm not the only Hawkins cheesies fan eating near a cheap Lenovo laptop
This could be a new opportunity. Finding and Testing the worst nugget laptops and pc’s and create a leaderboard for the crappiest ones lol
You can buy the cheapest, as long as it's not eMMC. That's what's destroying the usability of these machines, in most of these the storage is worse than a 5400rpm hard drive.
Not to mention those eMMC have s very short lifespan
Didn't the cheapest Steam Deck during it's launch use eMMC storage?
@@Nor-tc8vzyep but I didn't see benchmarks of that one
@@Nor-tc8vzyep but the EMMC storage was not soldered and you could easily upgrade it to a 1TV SSD. The cheapest steamdeck model existed purely for people that wanted to add in their own drive.
@@Nor-tc8vzIt's decent, not great or anything but gets the job done and doesn't really hold the console back. There are different performance levels of eMMC storage and the steam deck is probably using something better than the bottom of the barrel stuff that gets shoved in these laptops.
Lenovo has great Linux support, so you can get more power out of it with that.
Also you could have saved ~100$ if you refused the pre installed Windows (which you can get back afterwards in the EU).
Seriously, i have an asus cheapo celeron or atom laptop, i installed manjaro plasma, and it runs smooth. This being an amd based system should make it perform better
I have an ideacentre gaming 5i desktop and couldn't install Ubuntu. But that a issue I fixed later by disabling secure boot. Yes can agree. Lenovo's are great lil machines
Agree, they officially support Ubuntu IIRC. Everything works fine on my three thinkpads, except qualcomm wifi sometimes.
On thinkpads even macOS works well, at least last time I did it.
Yeah but he's in 'stralia. They don't have EU regulations, even though they are in eurovision, which is half of the requirements
@@_Hasboa_Disabling secure boot is literally one of the prerequisites to flash an ISO
Is this Windows 11 on a pc that doesn't meet system requirements? How did it even get installed, i thought it wouldnt let you
You should do a video on Status Between ANC3’s and dissect them.
When I was young and making a Christmas list, I saw a tablet for like $49 in the brochure of the toy store. So I circled it and ended up getting it for Christmas. What a nugget it was. It was branded as a Polaroid and had a TN screen that, even dead on, looked washed out and weirdly bright in certain spots. It had a difficult time running cut the rope and trying to use the browser was hopeless. I also think it had like 4GB of storage. I used it for one day and just chucked it in a box to never use again.
I l've had a table that has 2gb of storage and it was called something like "e-net" what a stupid nugget, the screen was stupidly bad if you looked at it from a different angle you wont see anything and when you click anything it has a "tst" sound it was running ice cream cake android
Random companies churning out cheap garbage Android tablets did more for cementing iPads as "the only tablet" than Apple ever could.
@@oohshiny8713And out ONLY saviour being Samsung of all things, but then they muddy it all up with their shit Tab A/E series. The Galaxy Tab S6 Lite though is a steal when on sale for $250 USD. I actually use it and don't want to throw it across the room, even if it isn't the smoothest vs a $400 iPad, but it's half the cost and even comes with the pen.
It doesn't help that there are relatively few android apps that support a tablet form factor very well. Hopefully with the Pixel Tablet coming out that'll begin to change. I'd love a tablet again but I'm not willing to go anywhere near apple@@oohshiny8713
Oh no... iPad baby's are getting nostalgic for Ipads... oldness hault your devilish advance!
I see dankpods, I click.
Why is this so fucking relatable
Fax, I see dank I click. It's a natural instinct
Me too
I light a joint a very dank joint
I’m a simple man. I comment, then watch the video.
Its good to see dankpods knows what a real cheezie is
You could see how much more responsive this nugget is with linux installed? :D Would be cool to see a comparison between Windows and literally any flavour of Linux on this machine!
This laptop was just impressive in all the worst ways, dear goodness
and somehow it would be stonger than any windows machine in my house💀
bro same lmaoo
@@icelmao.
this looks (and performs) very similar to the laptop i tried everything to stop my parents from buying. they 'couldn't justify' spending any more on a laptop. they lasted a month with it and then spent £550 on a new one lol
Basically my childhood laptop,i had an asus x540s with a Pentium n3700 and 4 gigs of ram with a 500gb hhd, cost about 200$ when my parents got me it, it sure was fun downloading every performance mod possible to get acceptable fps in Minecraft
Next time me and the boys go on a bender I’m gonna buy this and try and use it
10:04 Nice slideshow presentation you got there
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