How to Become Elder of the Brotherhood of Steel - Fallout 4 Cut Content & Mods
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damn now i have to replay f4 again ^^ thx for showing. Till now i always liked your contend... Aaaand i somehow missed that mod... shamefully...
Actually, you could spare Maxson and either have him exiled or demoted back to a knight (with a charisma check).
Oxhorn not for xbox one :(
At least dir ne it is nie the obvious faction :-)
is it coming to xbox
"I am now the Elder of the Brotherhood!" *Checks trash bin for spare ammo.
i mean i got scrounger perk for w reason XD
@@AmeenAlnaimi 😂
Lol
*Takes every chem known to man in 5 seconds*
Honestly this would just be funny if this was real
Something is so funny about hearing Danse shout "This is the part of the job that I love" whilst shooting his elder...
Spike Slice well that's quite a coincidence cause that shit was funny af
Hentai Mora shut up bitch
Something about this reply chain is so fucking hilarious
Hey Donald Trump the Retarded Oompa Loompa, quit with all the hostilities.
perfect timing XD
Becoming Elder, finding the underwater vault, being the champion of the combat zone... They cut all the really good stuff out
Underwater vault?
Right!!! Wait underwater vault?
I personally love the combat zone as is but the cut content looks so cool.
I would have loved to fight in the cage :')
@@DiaryOfALesbianGamer @NCR Ranger yeah. There was an underwater vault.
Maybe we'll get the vault in a future game since Microsoft now owns Fallout
This mod in a nutshell:
Danse: "In the name of the Litany, I am issuing a formal challenge against your title, Elder."
Maxson: "Are you threatening me, Paladin Danse?"
Danse: "The Litany will decide your fate."
Maxson: "I *AM* the Litany!"
Danse: "Not. Yet."
Maxson: "It's treason, then."
Danse: He is too dangerous to be kept alive!
Sole Survivor: It is not the Brotherhood's Way! I need him!
Maxson: You have to choose! I am the only one who can save your son!
Sole Survivor: *disarms Danse*
Maxson: *uses Final Judgement* Unlimited POWEEEEER!!!!
Sole Survivor: What have I done?
Maxson: The Litany is STRONG with you! You are now known as .... Paladin.... Vader.
Sole Survivor: Yes, my Elder.
Lapis Infernalis A man of culture lmao
@@lapisinfernalis9052 Maxson: "Proctor Ingram, the time has come. Execute Order 66."
Ingram: "It will be done, My Lord."
Damn we need a fallout star wars mod
Edit: *THEY EXIST*
Lol
Being able to CHOOSE whether or not to take out the railroad is flipping huge, man.
AsterSea that made this mod everything to me, honestly
I know I wish you had a option to not kill the railroad in the vanilla game I really want that ballistic weave ability. Maybe someone could make that a possibility... "Wink Wink"
Carson TheMaster I have found a way to ONLY destroy the institute
Carson TheMaster you can keep all factions alive and hating each other xD
Yeah, a lot know this method, but if you talk to certain NPCs this unsteady peace gets thrown out the window.
I wouldn't mind keeping the RR alive, if the Institute is gone, since no more Synths will be made for them to fuck the CommonWealth over with, alla Gabriel the Assclown Raider.
"We need to destroy the railroad, I am 100% certain of this decision, and nothing can convince me otherwise"
"No. Not interested"
"Alright"
If you are Elder , you give the orders , so ... yeah
I simply hope there is no repeat of the Outcast situation in Fallout 3
In my headcannon i assume a lot of members are not happy about the death of Maxson , and would try a coup or leave, especially having a synth as the second in command
@@mariolis well the brotherhood is all about honor and duty. If the rules state you kill the elder in battle you become elder I think most would accept that.
@@hughmann9568 Have you played Fallout 3 ?
The Outcast situation was a mutiny when the local elder violated the rules of the Western Elders & Broke Brotherhood tradition
also , in Fallout 4 lore , Maxson reunited the Outcasts with the main force ...
Also , Maxson was far more popular than his last real predessesor , Elder Lyons, who was in fact the elder that broke tradition and caused the Outcast situation
Imagine if someone who wasnt even born in the brotherhood to begin with , killed the extremelly popular Elder , and he as a replacement was Lyons on steroids ... and appointing what is perceived as an "abomination" to be second in command...
"The railroad is still a threat to the brotherhood, in which they still help these synths out. Orders?"
"No, not interested."
"Oh, okay..."
"They are of no concern until they attempt to take down the brotherhood, I dont care if they are helping synths it means less synths for us to deal with
Rango pistacho why did you reply to so many of these comments with basically the same thing
@@gamergodplays7153 do you have anything better to do?
Rango pistacho do you?
@@gamergodplays7153 well now you know why
During Danse’s “speech” he said ‘If that means I have to pull the trigger on my own kind, I’m willing to make that sacrifice” it makes me think that Danse gained that tiny bit of respect/kindness towards synths
That makes him a bit hipocritical because the whole point of Danse up to that point against Synths is that they are *potentially* dangerous to all of mankind (like skynet in the Terminator franchise)
Mmmmhh...nah. I think it more or less implies that he accepts the truth of *what* he is.
I always felt like it was weird that Maxson comes to the bunker to confront you one on one. Why wouldn't he send a few vertibirds of paladins to do it? Almost feels like that part was added last minute to give some closure to the situation. I would have greatly preferred the option to end it how this mod does.
If he did there would be no chance for the Sole Survivor to convince him to spare him as he does so in secret from the rest of the Brotherhood. I don't think he would do so in front of his own men, not wanting to set a hypocritical precedence where he orders them to kill Synths but lets his favorite one go.
So the send-Danse-to-exile option owas added in with Maxson's arrival at the bunker?
The Wanderer if you don't kill Danse, Macon comes, if you kill Danse, Maxon doesn't come, but how would he know whether you killed him or not? Plot holes.
CD 2409
The concept of the butterfly effect can be considered here. Instead of thinking about the player being in control of what happens, we think about the character Maxon thinking about having sent you to kill Danse, if you chose not to kill him then maybe the conclusion that Maxon comes to during this post-thought is "oh crap I better go make sure." v.s. "Nah, I can trust the sole survivor."
I have seen functionality in the game that suggests that it is not at all impossible to teleport the PC to somewhere outside the bounds of an area to keep the player from seeing them while using the dialogue camera to create "Cutscenes" where dialogue takes place without the Sole Survivors presence. Teleporting the PC back to wherever they were.
My thought on this came from experiences from other games where there are cutscenes that take place without the Player Characters presence.
Im going to use KOTOR and KOTOR-TSL as an example because a large portion of cutscenes take place where Revan or Exile are not present.
The Wanderer No, its called HONOR.
You can become archmage, listener, harbinger of the companions, leader of the Theives guild and Blades all while being the dragon born in Skyrim but can't become leader of the most popular faction in the Fallout series.
Bethesda confuses me sometimes
Agreed.
@Mitchell Hart aluhut detected
Mitchell Hart god obsidian with fallout with fallout 4s engine or a even better one would just be amazing same if they had elder scrolls now that would be amazing, to bad Bethesda are greedy
Mitchell Hart it shouldn’t cause some people who wasn’t involved with the game itself will be laid off but I do like that the higher ups are likely scared as hell over the loss of possible future investment into the already dead game
Mitchell Hart awful just awful, though maybe we should stop here cause pretty sure we could go on all day about this crap but don’t wanna spam the comments if thats the right term for it
General of the Minuteman, ELDER of the Brotherhood of Steel. What else?
*Railroad Slides in*
*Kicks it back*
nah, also become leader of the railroad, and director of the institute, and you make peace with every major faction alive.
this mod has to be made
Captain of far harbor, Overboss of Nuka World's raider gangs.
@@djwc6 then absolutely NO ONE could successfully invade the Commonwealth
We're heading to some Skyrim levels.
*Institute teleports in*
Gotta love how it only takes a "No, not interested" from the elder to immediately call off a major assault from one of the major enemies of the brotherhood
I wish that they keep both ending as a choice, as well as giving Father the blood from Cabit house quest line to cure his cancer and have a happy family ending
Revmon Bobbin I've always thought the Institute questline with Father dying was rather cut and paste.
Revmon Bobbin Oh my gosh, wtf your right! Why isn't that an ending. Here are some near immortal people from the 1800's or older and you can get some of their serum as a reward and you can't use it on you dying son. WTF! But in far harbor elf you can save some random guy with it...
LocoArticWolf 21 yeep, thought process of Nick / Nora : save my son, who I have killed people to save, from cancer with this cure all disease cure , nah. oh some random suicidal Frenchman got nicked mirelurk , god save the queen I must save this man!
thats what should have been in fallout 4
Revmon Bobbin or give father the cure from vault 81
you can get Maxson's coat and still part of the Brotherhood? this scenario is a big win!
Plus you can make Liberty Prime follow you which is epic af(only if you choose to become Elder)
"Okay boss, I have everything ready to go kill off the Railroad!"
"Meh, let's not."
"Eh..." "Alrighty then..."
"I mean there just saving a small group of synths and they will probably end up dying on their own"
"You know what your right"
@@rangopistacho6928 yeah even in the main quest line they save like 19-20 synths from the institute during the nuclear option in total lmao. And that's not even counting the synth casualties, as in the synths that died during the escape.
(listens to Oxhorn's opinion of how the details of you actually becoming Elder should be handled)
Huh....so, when is Bethesada making you a lead writer for Fallout again?
He used to be a lead writer?
Souperpie, John basically meant _"When did they say that, again?",_ not _"When are you going to become lead writer again?",_ humorously saying Ox should become lead writer.
Why would Bethesda hire competent people? That completely goes against what they have become as a company.
@@alexjones9094 nukes droped
they are too busy making $100 dlc
@4:00 Danse: This is the part of the job that I love.
That made me laugh as if killing Elders is routine
It’s probably how rogue elders are dealt with
its the vault 11 chapter
Did you know Maxson is the last of the "Maxson" family which is the original blood line of the brotherhood ( pre-war ) Also Maxson is in Fallout 3 in the Citadel next to Elder Lyons room he's a squire.
Alot of people already knew that since 2 reasons 1 same name as the kid 2 there from the Capitol waste but some don't
Shaun Steele yea i got a mod that let me kill him
If no one played fallout 3 that would be interesting
Hes not the last, he jus needs to hump some one and the line will go on :D
So he is the last. He's the last one. There aren't any others. He's the final living Maxson.
Bethesda needs to update their game and ACTUALLY add in this dialogue because this is a good little plot twist.
I honestly wished they could but you know how they are💀
Nah, BOS was awesome with Elder Maxon
Jai Kundicevic lol not really 😂
@@supbro6505 I think it is you who is the dumbass. They clearly said the second comment as a joke.
Dustin Fudge their too busy withtheir dumb creation club
"Face maxson, kill him, a d take command"
But more importantly take that sweeet coat
DO IT FOR THE COAT
DO IT FOR THE COAT
DO IT FOR THE COAT
DO IT FOR THE COAT
DO IT FOR THE COAT
The problem with the ending lorewise, is that it's already been established that only the High-Elder and the council out west gets to decide who leads a division . New Vegas already established how a elder can be relieved of command, in the chains that bind quest, A lowly paladin cannot jump rank and depose an elder, only the executive officer ( Captain Kells) can challenge a sitting elder under the right conditions.
Most of the brotherhood is fanatically devouted to Maxson, Arthur is revered like royalty, there not gonna back some upstart who killed the last living descendant of their founder just to save a synth.
But new vegas isn't a proper fallout game though
Correct on all points, Jokester. However, I'd still like this option. Why? Because it would be a perfect opening move to behead the BoS's leadership before the Minutemen follow up with a Commonwealth-wide assault on BoS positions.
Thats an option I really, *really* wanted with Danse, and possibly any other BoS members that don't like being better equipped raiders. Leave the collection of iron-fisted fascist tech-cultists and join a force that actually /does/ fight to protect people.
Stealth_Pool_ 2 how? it follows lore better than Bethesda
Wasn't it already established that the East Coast Brotherhood is a heretical version of the West Coast? Even under Maxson, it doesn't follow the original code to the T, it only follows the original objective.
Jokester30 the bos in fallout 4 has a different ranking system and as far as I've seen paladin is a very high rank in this division considering the fact that there is a knight captain at the meeting which danse is ranked above and there's not not a paldin commander or star paladin.
He literally says "this is the part of the job I love!" As he kills Maxson
Ironic.
Huh, this makes the rare ending in which the railroad, minutemen, and brotherhood are all alive make more sense
Hey guys I dont know if anyone knew about this, but there are some things that were probably updated after this video, but I thought it was my duty as a fan to inform you guys if you didn’t know...
1) you can go back to listening post bravo after the main quest if you missed it it in blind betrayal
2) there are ways to get Danse to confront Maxson on the Prydwen
3) you can battle Maxson in Fort strong, where he will be waiting with his Power Armor, Gatling laser, etc.
4) you can pass a charisma check to get Maxson to upright surrender and leave you in charge
5) you can pass a charisma check to get Danse to become elder instead of you
I think there were some other things that I forgot (mission failed we’ll get em next time) but I just typed what I thought you guys should know.
They patched this in as official update?
Do I need to check this or can I trust you?
@@robknight666 Bro I wrote this two years ago I don’t remember any of it. I think you might have to fact check.
@@caseylo4219I'm writing this yet another 2 years later and can confirm your ancient claims to be real
If only they'd finished this. I mean, I find it hard to believe that these zealots would accept an outsider as their Elder... But I would have loved to have had the chance to restore the Brotherhood that my Fallout 3 character proudly served. Then I could destroy the Institute alongside them without having to subscribe to their West Coast style beliefs.
i agree with you. lyons pride
Paffen Päft would have been bad ass to see Sarah Lions lead the Brotherhood to the Commonwealth.... instead of getting some bull crap story that the Elder of the Brotherhood of was cut down in combat
Tell me about it. When I first saw the Prydwen flying in, I got excited at the prospect of seeing her again... I figured her father was probably dead by then, after all. Then I went to see Danse and he mentioned an Elder Maxson and I was all, "Wait... The little kid? He can't be older than 20..."
As much as I trash Arthur's BoS, I think they are cool. And they make for great antagonists. The heroic faction turned bad, using all of the resources attained by the Lone Wanderer and Lyons leadership for immoral and self-righteous means. I wonder what happened to our Fallout 3 character after the new leadership took over and reintegrated the Outcasts...
LocksAndChains I hear that. would love for a chance to work with the Lion's Pride again.... not the biggest fan of Arthur's BoS just mainly on the moral decisions that they make but they are the coolest action in fo4
dude, that was my first impression when i first saw the prydwen flying over to the commonwealth. i've expected that sarah lyons was on that ship along with the rest of the BoS from capital wasteland that i was fought alongside with in Fo3. instead i met a no honour bullcrap elder who don't gives a shit to the commonwealth's common citizens. these things with the west coast pride is bullshit. i'm glad i've exterminated the last of 'em in new vegas.
but theres a character who died in a power armour when you're on a quest trying to find paladin brandis' recon squad. if you look carefully on this character(when you first found the missing squad's holotape), he's wearing a vault suit underneath the power armour. i wonder who that is. considering that the paladin brandis' squad is the first BoS force who put their steps on the commonwealth and was commanded from the capital wasteland(this was stated by paladin danse when you first commanded to search the missing squad) i wonder and guess thats the lone wanderer(main character) from Fo3 but, who knows..
This should never have been cut.
And turn the Brotherhood of Steel into the Klingons, where an Elder has to worry more about some Paladin or Procter challenging him to a duel, than the execution of the Brotherhood’s mission? Yes, the BoS styled themselves after medieval knights, but they retained a lot of practices and doctrine of the US Army. That is why they have ranks, chain of command etc. They know that asinine actions such as dueling your superior officer will gut the organization’s ability to carry out its mission.
@The Nova renaissance who cares about that shit the developers gave you an ending that isn’t even rewarding to the player, sure sentinel rank is fine and all but all that time spent and effort getting to that point was too much for just one promotion, the institute ending was much more rewarding than BoS ending, making up the time you missed with your long lost son, for filling his dying wish shown more emotion then becoming the father of the institute that’s more rewarding for a ending that will have consequences.
@The Nova renaissance I just do the BoS ending to get a more positive side from companions and the people of the commonwealth that’s the only reason I would do it, I don’t like getting lectured by piper because she hates the institute I had enough lectures walking through the BoS path
Blue Star Minutemen/Railroad ending is the most companion-favorable outcome so if you want the least hate from companions you should do those
Danse is perfect for a brotherhood soldier. He’s very skilled, honorable, and driven. Not to mention he’s immortal. Imagine how far he could take the brotherhood.
I downloaded this mod on my Xbox and when Danse goes to the Prydwen in front of them and finishes what he has to say, everyone attacks him.
check your load order for your mods, it sounds like there is conflict somewhere
Whats it called on xbox
Lmao
@@anonymousaj6418 Danse Dilemma
@@themissouriranger2829 thanks man
they need to do a DLC just adding cut content in. not that stupid high res thing
Sloth Donger They'd get so much hate if they sold cut content as DLC
Yeah it'd be a pretty dumb move for them to make
The High Res pack was free so his idea is still sound
ReplicatorFifth Its also garbage
Sloth Donger nah then it becomes a gimmick like mass effects " cut content " course it was free and fallout should have left this part in but we would end up with another form of dlc to buy .. seen it to with suicide squad I.e. pirate theater shots were gonna cut their profit so they made a special " extended scenes " special edition . we're gonna end up buying a game in pieces soon
"Don't need anything today"
"Troops will appreciate that"
lmao
This was probably cut from Proctor Teagan, I know I spelled it wrong. But it's still funny.
I personally think it's more responsible to let Danse be Elder, as he has many years worth of experience in the BoS.
Hes a synth
@@anakinvader9120 1. You're 1 year late.
2. Doesn't really matter if he's a synth.
@@oliverhale3268 1) You're one year AND a week late 2) Yes it does
Nah.
@fuckface unstoppable Well, for starters, I wrote that comment a month ago. In addition to that, I never said that the BoS didn't hunt synths, I just said it didn't mather to some lad that randomly said 'Hes a synth'.
This is SO much better. Not to mention it could give a chance to stop Stalin's... I mean Maxson's... style of Brotherhood.
Yeah...
Is this a mod or can I do this on vanilla??
Mod, unfortunately.
What platforms is the mod available on?
but anon Maxon's BoS is amazing, it has nothing to do with degenerate communism
Thing is, I always hate how they make you "boss" yet you still end up as someone errand boy and bitch. Seriously. "You are the new general, now go do this..... NOW!" "We have ourselves a new archmage! Um.....here....take this dudes smelly old robes, and anyways I need you to go get my laundry. Like asap."
Kegan Terry ^This. So much This^ That is the exact reason I don't like the Dark Brotherhood in Skyrim compared to Oblivion. Skyrim had you, the Listener fulfilling contracts. But in Oblivion all you had to do as Listener was listen, tell your Speaker the contract details, and collect your cut. Like a good Listener should.
Kegan Terry you need fcom commander
dude yes! fcom commander is one of the greatest mods out there. Get it! www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14946/?
Kegan Terry Do you know what the minutemen are about? You are the General of the minutemen, yes, but that doesn't mean you get to boss around people. General or not "minutemen never rest". You signed yourself up for it, agreeing to be the General.
TheEndiPL still would've preferred ordering those civies instead of them ordering me. Like, "I've got something a little bit different for-"
"YOU DO IT YOU PUNK BITCH!"
"....Yes sir."
The mod author should try to contact the voice actors to record new dialogue. Seriously, you can find their names and contact information in like five minutes on google.
Bitter Comments wouldn't that violate some kind of contract or something with bethesda.
They're professional Voice Actors, who will require being properly compensated- something that most modders can't really afford. And there may be some legal issues.
Bitter Comments That'd be neat but I doubt they would do it. Voice acting can fetch a pretty good paycheck and I doubt they'd record lines for free.
Bitter Comments People have already contacted various voice actors from the game. They're contractually obligated to not recreate their characters elsewhere.
gotta pay em first
This mod got a update.
Now maxson doesn't turn hostle outside of Post Bravo. You can tell Dense you'll be the one to dual maxon or let Danse do it. The mod creates all whole new quest called "Eldery Care" and you go to the airship and meet with a new npc voice acted and he sets up the dual in Fort Strong
Maxon uses his weapon and power armor to fight so you can get his paint job and weapon
I had no idea that you made videos like this. I remember watching your WoW videos back in the day (The Great Kodo is still my jam). This video was really cool and I will absolutely watch more. Awesome stuff!
Oxhorn. I have went over the official biography of "NATE" He and Roger Maxson the Founder of BOSS lived around the same time PLUS he was a veteran of the Battle for Alaska it would not have been out of place for these two to meet! . My thought is What if Roger Maxson had served as the CO or the contemporary of NATE? It would give NATE a more legitimate claim than DANSE to the rank of ELDER. There has to be a a larger reason why they MADE him 200 years old and a WAR VETERAN.
When I first saw the Sole survivor was a VETERAN and saw the BOSS in this I was asking myself if this will play into the story line. Seeing this and the posibility has confirmed my theory. I'm hoping that someone else can see the viability of this Theorem.
... I'm glad I could open this to others!
Seriously the concept of the Sole Survivor COMING BACK 200 years later to FIX the Brotherhood of Steel. I felt that this is COMPLETELY unexplored. If they could at least have shown a FLASHBACK that the SOLE SURVIVOR had met or even served with the ORIGINAL MAXON or even BEEN HIS COMMANDING OFFICER he would be the one person to fully UNITE the BROTHERHOOD of Steel. There has to be a reason why they made NATE a Veteran Background and NORA a Lawyer. Giving them a life 200 yeas ago has to have a reason right? PM me sometime and lets talk about this. If you wish.
mr6johnclark great point!
Thank you! Nice to see others seeing what I see.
I know I'm late to this party, but I agree as well. I usually choose a separate faction per play-through, but in general when I saw the opening and heard about the SS's military background I assumed you could bring it into play with the brotherhood. I had also hoped the female SS could use her lawyer training to have extra negotiation dialogs (would have made choosing male or female survivors mean something). As it stands, using a past connection to the original Maxson would have made for the perfect segway into challenging him, though I think it would be more appropriate to spare him and keep him alive for his knowledge and experience. His views became to fanatical, he lost sight of the goals, by getting to caught up in his elitism. The SS's experiences before the bombs fell would serve to unify the brotherhood, remind them that while humanity has to be careful with and keep an eye on technology, its was ultimately the decisions of humans and humans alone that caused the downfall. Hmm but I guess that's a speech for another time. Like I said, I do think the military background is a disappointing untapped opportunity.
Better late than never... Dude.
Who else would love to have a "DLC" where they officially add in all the cut content that they took out?
If they did that, I should hope it's free. I own the season pass, but if they made others pay for something that should have been in the game, I would not forgive them.
Yeah they could make it involve the memory den or something
Silentcrypt ye
I would love it if someone made a Fallout 4 mod similar to the Skyrim mod called Cutting Room Floor, that adds in almost all of the cut content from the game.
Silentcrypt that would be cool but I bet the game probably would have a extra 20 gigabytes take up
it's incredible how just restoring some cut content can make possibly the best lore friendly fallout 4 mod
I'm just fine being a Sentinel......and being General of the Minutemen is the closest thing to being Elder of the BOS that we pretty much get in F4.
I highly doubt the soldiers are ok with you killing their leader and you takeing over
the brotherhood respect the codex which says that it's legal so they don't have an issue with it
.
Sloth Donger So are u saying if u want to be the elder, all u need is carry a big freaking gun in a power armor and challenge elder while he's carry light weaponry. That sounds easy, sign me up to the brotherhood.
Jasper Edwards
Not really. You don't get to just walk up to the Elder, say "Let's fight right now.", shoot him and be done with it. You are officially challenging the Elder to a fight, meaning you get to use the equipment you want to use and he is given the time to use the equipment he wants to use, then both of you fight 1 on 1 while the other soldiers watch to confirm the challenge was legitimate.
So if this ending was implemented the right way you would most likely face off against an Elder Maxson using Last Judgement and his Elder Paint Power Armor on the Prydwen.
+Grand Champ
The Brotherhood doesn't have any human gods. Their "deity" is their military structure and this the litany that dictates how this structure is supposed to work. You follow your superiors orders, your superior follows his superiors orders and that one in turn follows the next person above etc. The only thing that can go above this direct following of orders is the very mission you were sent out for and if you're sure your superior is not beneficial to that mission you have official ways of challenging it and leading the mission to success in his stead.
The mission in the Commonwealth was to find the supposed technical threat and stop it, which effectively means the destruction of the institute (which is different from the destruction of everything the institute ever created). While in the middle of a war against the Institute Maxson chooses to make yet another enemy in the Railroad (eventhough the Railroad is effectively fighting the exact same enemy), he then chooses to reactivate a robot meant to fire off nuclear bombs at a rapid pace (what happened to "keeping technology in check?") and, after finding potentially fake information about one of his highest ranking (and as far as the Commonwealth area goes, one of the most geographically experienced) Paladins he does not choose to imprison him and verify the information but instead asks to immediately kill him, causing unrest among all those Knights that still respect Danse and thus not only weakening his chapters military structure but also killing troop motivation.
It makes a lot of sense to at that point say "This guy is unhinged and he is losing us the war by spreading us too thin and killing our own people. I'll officially challenge him in accordance with the litany and take over in order to lead his mission to success."
i love this ending alot more, i love paladin danse and how well writen his character is. What a shame they cut this from the game. hope if they update the game they can finish and add this back to base game.
Just download the mod!
The reason why I love Oxhorn’s videos, is because he’s so thorough, and covers everything!
Ah man. It would've been nicer if Danse was the Elder instead. I like Danse, he is possibly my most favourite character in the game.
there is now that option in version 2.9
I prefer the normal ending. Not because I agree with every decision Maxon makes or like how all the situations and quests turn out, but because I accept that not all options and outcomes in the game are perfect and it's this disagreement on some points with the faction at large is the imperfection that makes it more believable and immersive. If you want a simple, straightforward "good" faction you go for Minutemen, they listen to you and mostly agree with your choices (unless you go evil of course). The rest of the factions throw something in questionable in and you can't just magically fix everything by taking control (you do become the boss of the Institute though at the end but that's at the end of the game don't change everything overnight). Granted we don't know how much you would be able to change as an Elder (say spare the Railroad despite them attacking your forces ?) so perhaps the Brotherhood would still keep some of it's own character. Personally I wish only for being able to talk Maxon into capturing the Railroad leaders instead of killing them, convince him to destroy only the Synth production line while leaving Gen3s under observation and using the Institute base for manufacturing new medicine, ammo and radiation free food for the Brotherhood and distribution across the Commonwealth.
If I was the typical member of the BoS and followed Maxon for years like some sort of hero I would take the Sole Survivor and throw him overboard for the audacity of gunning down the Elder in some sort of hostile takeover. The only way to gain the support of the grunts would be having Maxon's support after his defeat.
SinnerBeta no?
"If I was a typical member of the BOS and followed Maxson for years like some sort of hero I would take the Sole survivor and throw him overboard" no mate, the Sole Survivor would take YOU and throw YOU overboard
LoneStarWolf Entertainment not necessarily.
Even if you do take over, the Brotherhood is still flawed. At it's heart, the Brotherhood can never accept that synths are people. They still demand tribute from farms. They still wish to commit genocide against the super mutants and ghouls. They don't issue the evacuation order when destroying the Institute and instead commit genocide on them too. If you were to not do any of these things, another Paladin would challenge you as Elder since you aren't upholding the Brotherhood's code, or a splinter faction would form like the Outcasts in FO3. And when you die, whether by getting killed or from old age, the Brotherhood will then go back to their old ways. There is no way to "fix" the Brotherhood, or any other faction, accept the Minutemen and possibly the Institute, if you want to handwave that after you become the leader of the Institute that you would put an end to Father's cruel experiments on the people of the Commonwealth and stop focusing on synths and more on technology that could rebuild society, although you can't actually do this in-game. The Brotherhood was founded on the protocols that Maxon was trying to uphold. Even if you did manage to change the East Cost Brotherhood, the West Coast would still cling to the same protocols and banish the East Coast eventually. Anyone who knows anything about the lore would always be wary of the Brotherhood, because they have always been the way portrayed in FO4. Hating anybody but themselves having technology, taking it by force much of the time (which is where Maxon is actually kind of progressive compared to his West Coast brothers), genocidal towards ghouls and super mutants, and they've always seen other wastelanders as sub-human. Hell, many West Coast members of the BOS would question Maxon's decision to take on outsiders at all. In any game taking place in the area of the NCR, if you try to join the Brotherhood, they send you on a suicide mission to retrieve a piece of tech from a heavily irradiated area, expecting you never to return.
I think there is a possibility that Bethesda could have used to become Elder that would have actually been really cool if they actually did it, in hindsight. Nate was alive before the bombs fell and participated in the Battle of Alaska. Maxon (as in the Maxon that founded the Brotherhood after the bombs fell) was also a member of the military and probably also participated in Alaska. What if Nate and that Maxon were old war buddies who fought together in Alaska? That would give Nate at least a legitimate claim as Elder, having been friends with the first High Elder of the Brotherhood.
Welp the Maxson family just got game ended.
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Glad to see he's still got a sense of humor I guess...
they have time to make high res DLC and they don't have time to restore these cut scenes?
i mean u can become an Elder of BoS! I'll accept that even with 360p resolution!!!!😂
Amin Bolouri ill accept it 144p
here's my suggestion for the upcoming update for this mod:
so after when you tell Maxson to spare Danse, he is disappointed that you made this choice, but Danse, out of his own voice, challenged Maxson to settle this dispute as written in the Brotherhood Litany; combat. but Danse said that this will be settled at the Boston Airport, where everyone will be watching. Maxson gets angry, but he agrees to meet Danse and you at the Airport as "he is looking forward to making you and Danse disappear". Maxson then leaves with his Vertibird. Danse tells you to meet him at the airport to show everyone that Maxson is fanatical and he is wrong about killing off one of his best soldiers just because he is a synth. when you reached the Airport, many Brotherhood soldiers are watching Danse and Maxson, anticipating for a fight to ensue. it appears that Maxson has brought some backup with him to overpower Danse, along with his power armor and Final Judgement. Maxson then sees you, giving you an ultimatum whether you're still part of the Brotherhood or you're just caring for a machine. Danse convince you to help him take down Maxson and his backup he brought.
if you choose to side with Danse, you and Danse have to kill Maxson and his backup. after killing them, the audience is shocked, but Danse tells them the truth about Maxson and his heart and mind still belongs to the Brotherhood even though he was a synth. Danse then declared you the new Elder of the Brotherhood of Steel. everyone now supports Danse and you.
if you choose to side with Maxson, it would just be the same ending as executing Danse at Listening Post Bravo; you, Maxson and his backup easily kill Danse. Maxson says that this is an abomination of what the Institute can do, and he will never allow synths to be in the Brotherhood, regardless of their rank or respect. Maxson then orders everyone to return to their duties and you to return to the Prydwen to talk to him.
Thank you so much for what you do. Fallout 4 has become so much more amazing due to you showcasing mods. Fallout 4 being already amazing, the mods you show quadruple the awesomeness.
Thanks for reminding me of this mod! I just completed it. It feels so good to have Danse along on vertibird rides again!
Hold the phone. If you don't send Danse away or something, Elder Maxson never gives you the rank of Sentinel, and because of that, you never get a jetpack. So first you should become Sentinel, then a few moments later, challenge elder Maxson, kill him, so the Brotherhood soldiers don't become hostile and everything can end without a huge death count. You order the troops that Paladin Danse should be able to join the brotherhood, and Strong and other companions that are non-human have the choice to join the Brotherhood, either by choice, or by you convincing them. Then, you are able to spare the Railroad, blow up the Institute, and you can add the Minutemen as a special unit in the Brotherhood. (Go to the super duper mart in Lexington! They only took 4 casualties!) also, by this time the Minutemen have become strong enough and become a fighting force against the remaining synths and FERAL ghouls as well as HOSTILE Super mutants and maybe Deathclaws. So that is how I think the mod should play out! Leave a like on this comment if you agree with me 👍🏻
Skywalking Studioz you could just craft a jet pack but the skill point investment can be quite large depending on your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. Stats and what level you are making it progressively harder to get one point
Ox...you might want to revisit this mod; it may have been updated since you made this vid. I just finished playing through it, choosing to let Danse and Maxson fight between themselves. I had to go up to the Prydyn, talk with a person who's in charge of the Litany, and then was directed to go to Fort Strong. Danse and Maxson battle, Danse wins, and I was able to get Maxson's Legendary Gatling Laser, Final Judgement, and the kick-ass power armor he wore to the battle. Other than that, it went the way your video documented it. One amazing mod!
Creation club? They could restore it like that but it be like 50.00 dollars
Hey, that’s unreasonable, but if it gave the game a few quests to do AS Elder, made the characters a bit more fleshed out, fuck, I’d pay for it (just drop it to $25).
Top Operator of the Railroad, Brotherhood of Steel Elder, General of the Minutemen, Destroyer of the Institute, Hero of Far Harbour, Atom’s Greatest Gift, Protector of Acadia, The Shrouder of the Mechanist, the Man/Woman outta time…..the Sole Survivor. The person who lost everything friends, family, his/her entire life before the war and yet still they fight for one end goal. To fully restore Peace in the Commonwealth.
That is the title of my Fallout 4 Character. The Shrouder of the Mechanist was like meant to be The Silver Shroud part of that storyline where the Mechanist can be stopped without bloodshed and can be recruited to a Settlement.
This is a far better ending. However I would have preferred if you had the choice to give Danse eldership instead.
you can, I dont know if its in the mod but in the original quest when danse tries to make you elder you can pass a speech check to have him be elder instead
What a joke 😂
Danse dilemma is what you’re looking for good sir
If bethesda hadn't made the boneheaded descision to cut this mission, I would have chosen the brotherhood ending.
Becoming elder would be amazing. Being able to control liberty prime, having it chill at a settlement would all be an amazing addition.
I just found my new play through, thanks mate :)
I always wanted this ending, without even knowing about it. (Though in my story I used cheats so that my character could kill Elder Maxson for his coat, at the end of the storyline, cause that's how he rolls.) And then I just went around saying that I owned the Brotherhood of Steel now
I'm very new to your channel and only stumbled across it because of your lore videos.
I became a huge fan right away your voice and the way you explain things is just beautiful.
I've been binge watching your videos and hope to watch them all within the month. I'd love to see a video on why the Institute could be good for the long run of the world from your point of view.
Just played this part to get the perfect Minutemen Ending! The MA's really upped the quality of this mod since this vid. The conversation takes place at the Bunker as normal, but then everyone travels separately to a new basement area in Fort Strong where Danse(or you) face off in a 1-1 battle. You get to loot his power armor, battlecoat, and Final Judgement.
Funny thing:
I installed the mod to try this cut ending, but on my playthrough Danse finished his speech after overthrowing Maxson and then we had to fight out way off of the Prydwen 😂
Really wish Bethesda would have finished both of the cut content and maybe made a Memory Den DLC. I mean thats not to much to ask is it?
Bet Memory Den stuff will get mixed into Bethesda's next Fallout or Elder Scrolls game in a way. Maybe New Vegas 2? Probably couldn't get it off the ground in time for this game or DLC so they pass it along.
What's a memory den?
Lex Luthor in good neighbor its a mind reading divice
Oh yeah. Why the fuck would that be introduced into Elder Scrolls? And an entire DLC about it seems very unlikely.
+Lex Luthor Well what about Operation Anchorage, wich entirely took place in a memory lounger?
My favorite faction its the brotherhood
Ad Victoriam!
Mine its Pizza
My favorites are the Brotherhood Of Steel, New California Republic/NCR and Caesar's Ligion. "Ad Victoriam" "For The Republic" And "Ave, True To Caesar"
Fake Marshmello my fav is Caesar's legion.
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I was *SO* happy when I found this mod on Xbox, being General of the Minutemen & Elder of the Brotherhood of Steel makes me feel good about myself
FYI the mod author saw this video and updated the mod. You are now able to properly duel maxson in a real fight and acquire his Elder Armor and “Final Judgement” Gatling Laser.
This would have been better to the vanilla game
I really loved to lead the brotherhood of steel. I'll make it to helping people, like Fallout 3 (or fallout tactics).
Thanks for sharing this mod!
It's like making a cold shower warm. I just got to this video after nearly dying from that one CZcamsrs "content" (I'm talking about puma) because I like to have nice videos that have subsance! your vids are so much better than any other fallout CZcamsr.
Honestly I feel it was for the best. It would feel too much like Skyrim, where you become leader of every faction. Plus I like Danse having the whole "struggling with his identity" issue. I always thought it gave him more depth and a chance to discover himself. But, that's just what I think. Of course I'll probably be down voted into Oblivion for saying I actually prefer Arthur being elder over my character.
"Then you leave me no choice" first thing I thought of was star wars
I love your videos and I hope you will keep making them they help me out a lot
Bro this would have been amazing, the amount of options in one quest.
I'm guessing there isn't a PS4 version of this mod?
MarmadukeRupe well all the speech is in script,only unused,so it should be.
Simply moving a file triggers Sony so probably not.
i hope there is
i doubt it
I feel kinda bad for you guys on ps4 and sony are still being bitches about it
It would have been better if you could save Danse and he became elder
This is gonna be one of my favourite mods
freakin awesome, Thanks Ox, once again you have went above the call of duty
I always side against the BoS because I hate Maxson, but i'd still feel guilty everytime i have to blow up the Prydwen. So yeah, I think I might download this mod, thanks Oxhorn :D
#FUCKTHECHILDREN LOWUPTHEMOON
I must have been typing to fast. I am more a speeding Nazi than anything because I don't really care much for grammar. To damn complicated for me.
#FUCKTHECHILDRENBLOWUPTHEMOON
It is possible to to make all factions like each other except the institute so you could join others and do that :P
with this mod you can officially be the god of the commonwealth
father of the institute
elder of the brotherhood of steel
general of the minute-men
and overboss of the raiders (only effects the raiders in nuka-world)
I love this mod! I created a new character to use this mod, I'm starting to get there. first BOS then Shaun. thank you Oxhorn! Danse hands down is my favorite companion.
Knowing that the sole survivor is still with you fills you with determination
I don’t think you shoot your way to Maxon, maybe if it had been further developed Danse or Maxon might of informed the BoS.
I imagine a scripted ring fight scene lol
I hope that one day this becomes a mod that is avalable for the Xbox One
Actually it should be possible, I mean, it's in the base game after all, so no external assets needed.
They have all sorts of mods for xbox now. Finally
Wait this mods on Xbox, what’s the title
The EliteMushyboy the title is the same one as it is on PC
Dude It's on Xbox One
Hey oxhorn! Love your videos, I hope you could do a video tutorial kinda think to save 3 factions and end the game with the minutemen
Thanx ox, this helped me out a lot!!
I wish I could of convince maxson to change his mind about the syths and the railroad. then the brotherhood ending would be perfect.
it's kind of silly that fallout 4 has the running theme of every faction making you their king. :P
Minutemen, Institute, BoS, nukaworld raiders etc. I dont mind, but it's kind of funny when you think about it.
Crystallking H Railroad doesn't
Vin Nozar no, but they make you their most trusted operative, I guess the point is; no matter who you talk to they put all their faith into YOU, regardless of what kind of person you are.
I completely agree with you however, that's true of most games when you think about it especially RPGs. I also do find it funny that despite some of these groups being the most powerful in their world the desperately need the help of some level 5 nobody who just walked in.
Brandon Sansovich exactly!
I'd much rather be forced to make a choice between being leader of a faction you have to build from the ground on up, or be the lowly initiate of the badass faction with high end gear and influence all over the place.
Omg makes me wanna play fallout 4 with all this interesting mods especially this one
Love your channel by the way 👍👍
Congrats on 1 million subs
With those sunglasses your character looks like Johnny Depp from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas lol
Technically his title is High Elder because Roger Maxson is his ancestor.
For those wondering, yes this is on Xbox, I’m unsure about ps4 but I imagine that it would be. The mod is called the Danse dilemma on console. Also this version of the mod actually has more set up and you actually have to face elder Maxson in a sort of gauntlet.
Can you like order the bos to go raid settlements or go on patrols ?
Do you still get the quarters/room you would normally get in the Prydwen if you follow this mod? Normally you get them from Maxson after this mission and you get promoted to Paladin.
Oh my god.. This ending is really "Outstanding" compared to what we got..
Why u do dis Bethesda?
Why didn't u add this ending to what we got?
That's a matter of Opinion. The lore they put in place fucks Fallout 3's lore hard and rough of the BoS. The Lyon's family lineage was killed off in horseshit fashion if you read the datalogs on the Prydwen, meaning the tough blonde who gives the Lone Wanderer shit when they first meet and seems to form feelings for him/her later besides immense respect for all they've done, couldn't continue the mission of having her faction acting like heavy-tech and heavily-armed Minutemen. Nope we get fucked cause a heart-broken edgelord named Maxon takes Lyon's place as Elder after her.
Z23 it just works.
No you guys are all wrong, they were too lazy to code it in the game and it will to easy to choose if you want to kill Danse so they just delete it from the main game
I hate how Ingram never has armor just a armor chassis
But... she was an engineer, not a soldier. She only used the frame to over come her physical disabilities. Which would make it a lot harder to do engineering... as would a humongous suit of power armor...
Tldr it was only the frame for good reason.
Joseph Iles true
@@josephiles5793 I thought Mitten Squad called her the cripple as a joke.
Thank you for unintentionally answering my question.
i love this mod makes my rp more realistic when trying to merge the bos and minutemen