Fallout 4 How to save Paladin Danse
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- Fallout 4 How to save Paladin Danse and stay with the Brotherhood of Steel.
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I did not expect the story to turn out this way... not at all! Danse is a synth and we have to kill him according to Elder Maxson.
But I don't want Danse to die so I'l try to save him. And i succeeded ;) This is how you can save Danse from dying and still be part of the Brotherhood of steel and getting promoted!
Please leave a like for saving Danse!
Thanks for watching - Hry
Danse: “no matter what decision you take, know that I won’t judge you.”
*kills maxson*
*Danse hates you and starts shooting at you*
You: “WHAT THE FUCK DANSE I THOUGHT YOU WOULDN’T JUDGE”
I tought that as a solution and got shot
Danse hated that
*you are now enemies with the entire fanbase*
*you are now enemies with the brotherhood of steal*
You disobeyed my orders. Have a promotion.
MasterNate1172 WOW93 lol
Sometimes when you have to do what’s right even the wrong will reward you
So you mean I can spare him and get promoted yayayayayay
Like harry potter "you break a rule,1000 points to gryff XP
You might not even see this but heres my two cents
1. I get what your doing. It is funny.
2. It is very possible that he felt sadness or betrayal. Its not like elder maxson hated danse before he found out, but hes a leader, he cannot show danse is the exception. Now if your character has high enough speech it isn't unbelievable that he would be convinced Danse is not the enemy show him some humanity somehow, and he did... Granted the game undermines this by saying Danse will stay at the bunker.
As far the BoS is concerned with the exception of scribe Halen hes dead, leaving room for a promotion because you did the deed it makes sense.
I don't want a promotion to paladin, maxson,
I want that dang sexy coat
Channel Abandoned max out pickpocketing skills lmao
Maxson:the only way you will able to have my coat is to rip it away from my cold dead hands
Sole survivor:
*Oh?*
no i tried you can't pickpocket from him i think bethesda made it that way so that if you wanted to be part of the brotherhood you would have to choose between the the best clothing item in the game or the brotherhood
Same
whats with everyone and maxons coat
After 1000 reloads later, I finally saved him..
I reloaded gun once
jay's gaming21 a brony again...
So. If a Brony Wants to Be a Brony Then They are a Brony
Lol i saved him first try
+hello xd If someone wants to get salty on the internet over another's interest then they can get salty.
So Danse sorta got the Parthuranx treatment
hahahah lol so true
I no one has 100% because of that particular quest
•Cipher • don't bring him up it still makes me sad because what I've done :(
Talk to argneir and not esbern to save paarthurnax.
I could never kill Paarthurnax. Fuck the Blades
If your having trouble with the speech check, theres actually some grape mentats in that room to boost your charisma by 5
Thanks
you can just quicksave and if it doesn't work just load,but thanks anyway!
Most useful comment!!
Thank you so much
Before Blind Betrayal:
Maxon: Danse is one of our best paladins out there. I'm happy to see he's training you.
After Blind Betrayal:
Maxon: KILL THAT MONSTROCITY!
+DarkBeast27 Productions Elder Maxson is just really pretending and has no emotion. However, he is really loyal to the cause anything that gets in the way is dead even Elder Maxson would kill himself if he was a synth.
Dragonborn 360 Hahahah. "I'm everything we hate! I must die" *shoots self*
If he were a synth then it's likely his own fucking *bodyguards* would kill him
DarkBeast 27 true
@@dragonborn3609 what is pretty ironic is how both Father and Elder Maxson both start off as bundles of joy but their factions turned them both into robots with no emotion and whose only duty is to continue the mission
"How to save Paladin Danse." Refuse to kill him, pass speech check. Simple. I will save him on every playthrough, even if I do one where I side with the Institute. Even if he hates me, he'll be alive.
mewmew34 would he still talk to you?
Republic 117 I don’t think so
Emi Hasumi the next play through I’ll have 10 charisma , I had to kill him before I tried every option 😭
What happens if you don’t have the charisma
@@B-rex395 prepare to save and keep going over and over and over to try and beat the charisma check
I think this would have been a little better if it weren't dependent on speech checks, but rather if you could collect evidence and have Danse give testimony based on your travels with him, maybe even support from others like Haylen. It'd be more interesting to confront Maxson's prejudice with material evidence and support within the Brotherhood, rather than a simple speech check.
Kind of like in an earlier fallout game where you defeated another ideologue that couldn't be talked down on moral grounds, but rather on hard evidence that their conclusion was incorrect...
ChiotVulgaire I can imagine the character doing the "objection" pose from Phoenix Wright 😂😂
you are expecting too much for a bethesda game.
No, Maxson wouldn't care about "evidence". He hates any and all synths and Danse is only alive because you can pass a speech check.
@@freerkelly7166fallout 1, the master
I mean you are able to defeat legate lanius with a speech check. Righ hand man of cesar and final obsticle of the 2nd battle of hoover dam
Only one question remains about the Brotherhood...Do Paladins, Danse?
Shadsy The Hedgehog the Armor is to heavy for that
Well in my experience you’d be surprised what they do when no one is looking . . .
Abbe Axman
r/woooosh
That Lemon Guy r/woooosh
@@im_zenkai r/woooosh
Maxson does have a very awesome looking coat... maybe I'l come by and get it as well..
oooo murder for the cool looking coat ilike it
ButcherPete so is he still available as a companion afterwards?
Katherine Huamán Romani yes he is however, the Brotherhood of Steel will attack you when you take Mason with you on you're journeys.
ButcherPete can u still trade with him
ButcherPete. can he still not agree after that
if only you could kill maxson, and make danse the elder.
Regulus The Peace Keeper thats what a synth would say. Ad Victorium
Leo Demidov If
Danse could be the elder...
Or if you joined the institute and he could still be your companion...
I NEED DANSE BACK.
CT- 242 this is the third time today I found you in a video's comment section
DuskWolfie117 Let me guess, they were all about Paladin Danse, weren't they?
Yup i do research before diving neck deep in hell that why I am here and I happened to see you for a third time
I gotta say, this was one of the most powerful scenes I had the fortune of witnessing in this game. There is so much raw emotion, and both sides give really great arguments. It doesn't feel like a cheaply manufactured plot.
The developers actually used realistic gestures, instead of the randomized ones when most characters speak.
People put their SOULS in this scene. And it really shows.
I grew fond of Danse in the short time I knew him. And I was very pissed off when Elder Maxson wanted me to kill him.
I was bound and determined to keep Danse alive.
I knew the Elder would be waiting for us outside. I knew it wouldn't have been that easy for us.
Elder Maxson convinced me...like a REAL person. And I wanted to give into denile. I knew he was right. But I still didn't want to kill Danse.
He actually made me question my own decision. Even in the aftermath of winning the argument.
The ending was SO realistic...
I honestly don't think there is any other way it could have ended perfectly.
I was very impressed.
I got minuteman ending so this never happened in my game and Danse is still my companion
Fallout 4 has such a complex and elaborate plot, this game is great
Why the hell would the Elder of the Brotherhood of Steel go out into the Wasteland without any power armor and without a bigger escort besides just a vertiberd? That's just asking to be shot and killed on the spot.
The Courier especially how good the vertib pilots arr
He's like Trump
He’s a synth
@@djsweaty2890 okay leftist we get it
@@SatomiForward Daaang I wish my '3 years ago self' would have known better not to piblicise politcal opinions
Man...the voice acting HERE is by far the best in the game. I almost felt like I really was in the moment of the situation.
Anybody else thinks Quinlan looks like the medic from TF2?
Yup
OMG TRUE
true
Bellevegas 2 eh not really
Oh yeah
Elder Maxson made valid points because the Institute was responsible for the kidnappings, murders and settlements being wiped out but Paladin Danse took a lot of risks, made many sacrifices and decisions that saved Brotherhood soldiers. Even though, I see both perspectives, I think saving Paladin Danse was the best option and will always save him for every gameplay, even if I have to side with the Railroad & the Institute to get his companion perk.
the Synths aren't bad because they look like people
they're bad because the Institute is using them to *replace* people (I specify the Institute because of Far Harbor)
we even have the Coursers, which (afaik) are Synths created to be an original individual, which just shows that it *is* possible for a truly original person to be created as a Synth (as original as their memories)
@@rydergolde3169they’re not human
@@itsjenika8941 dogs aren't human and we treat them kindly
hell, pigs are shown to be more intelligent than dogs and we use them for *food*
"they're not human" is such a shallow argument there's already been a whole game on the concept
Detroit: Become Human
Originally there was a mission that would trigger after sparing Danse where Elder Maxon would call you out like before. Only this time you are given the option to challenge him for title of elder.
This mission was fully completed, recorded and programmed but was cut from the game as it conflicted with the final mission.
After challenging and defeating Maxon he will no longer be present during the final mission. Because his speech is what flags the door to open at the beginning of the Nuclear Option mission it leaves you stuck in that room.
However, with this mod you control the BoS, choose to spare or destroy the Railroad, you have access to Maxon’s private quarters, Maxon’s Power Armor, it gives you a means to get the Final Judgement Gatling laser and Maxon’s kickass coat.
Too Bad A Deathclaw Vs Yaogai Fight Didnt Happen While Maxon Was Talking
Danse is Gen 3 synth so before he "synthified" he was a human
Nick was human. A lot of gen 3 synths were created with other's memories. They had a human life. They just have a different body now
Skater Of Nerd That means he was probably killed by synths...
Not necessarily, Gen 3 synths can be replacements for people but its also likely he was a Gen 3 synth whose memories were wiped by the railroad who is living as a genuine human which seems to be the case.
@@zeldagamer7477 Dosen't it say that Nick takes the personality of some random pre war officer?Its not really like it's the passed on consciousness of the original guy but rather a copy of the guy's personality
Ironically even though the brotherhood hates robots, they act like them. Obeying arbitrary orders that even the elder feels weird about. Even if danse is a synth, it's not like he would choose to help the institute
Unless he had a kill command. Like the Manchurian candidate
They don't hate robots. They use them themselves. What they hate is technology gone too far. Such as giving robots free will.
That's military culture for you.
I'm with Maxson. Destroy them all. Synths remind me of Argent energy in Doom, infinitely useful, but the catalyst that dooms humanity. Rip and tear until it is done! 💀
That pause at 3:36 is so damned fitting. It really elevated the emotion of the scene/situation. It felt like the player was letting the reality of allegiance sink in before sinking with the reality.
When I did that bunker scene with Maxson and Danse, it was past midnight and was raining. The emotional weight of the scene was more intense as you see these characters soaking wet from the downpour amidst flashes of lightning and thunder roaring in the background........ and my character, she was naked the entire time.LOL Thanks Bethesda.
One good tip: Go do the whole Trinty Tower quest and get that suit that guy gives you, so far, it's the only suit with max charisma I've found, by max I mean 3 also it's called Reinalds Suit
good tip man, thanks.
Cyrotechnium You goofed up
grape mentats, adds 5 CAR,its craftable
SnowyThePyroBear Inc. I have Reginalds suit, Whenever I need to pass a speech check, I put on the suit and pop open a beer
Step 1: Side with BOS or Minutemen (give Network Scanner Holotape to Maxson) to eventually acquire Blind Betrayal quest.
Step 2: Max your Speech.
Step 3: Convince Scribe Haylen to reveal Danse's location by promising to hear him out.
Step 4: Go to the Listening Outpost where Danse is, refuse to kill him.
Step 5: Refuse Maxson's order (avoid Aggressive dialogue option and have Charisma-Speech as high as possible).
Done.
Is Maxson a synth ever since he can be so relentless and emotionally distant from some of his best paladin's? Does he even know it himself? Tell me what you think...
ButcherPete no
Lmao.
ButcherPete He isn't as he is a returning character from Fallout 3, In Fallout 3 he was just a Brotherhood Squire/Child.
The only way to find out is to kill him, if you find a Synth component then that means he is a synth.
Mabye... Plays fallout 3 oh I guess not.
I would find it hilarious if Maxson was a synth also.
It really doesn't take that much charisma guys. Just try it you will see.
You should be able to do that, the only thing that sucks about saving danse and having him as a companion is that the Brotherhood of Steel will attack you when he's your companion.
i had one charisma dude i had to kill him
save before and keep trying until it works
Just save before you try it, so you can always reload if things go south.
if they fire with danse as a companion why not with valentine?
Cause Pete don't care who's meat he chops...
kookooman777 You bet!;)
“He wacks,hack, chopping that meat!”
Cool, I've never seen this mod before, what's it called? "Fallout 3 graphics"?
Cryotechnium no the potato battery 3000
Booter Braud ITS NOT A MOD U IDIOT😡😡
Optical Gaming its a joke dumbass
Optical Gaming ITS called sarcasm
optic sixsiege R/WOOSH
The real danse was snatched up and replaced in the capital wasteland. We already know that coursers are in the capital wasteland from playing 3. As for whether to save him or not...well that is moral dilemma. I would say to save him.
I think synths are sentient beings, but still, both sides are convincing and have good arguments. They even have unique gestures here. I wish game developers would put more effort in the rest parts of this good in its own way game. Just love this scene. Both Maxson and Danse have great voice acting and voices.
12:44 YOU ARE A TOY!
...you're mocking me aren't ya
@@Djoowie Oh, no no no no - *_BUZZ LOOK AN ALIEN!!!!!!_*
@@bunnehboi1985 WHERE?!
Ad victoriam, brother
Ad victoriam
Ad Victoriam
Ad victoriam
Ad Victoriam
Ad Victoriam
I thought fallout 4's story was meh but this quest definitely made me feel some type of way.
Danes is a nice guy and saves many lives
This was one of the best parts of the game and people are complaining about speech checks. This situation made me remember why I put some points into charisma. It’s pretty realistic you’d need some high charisma to sway Maxon’s decision.
Thank you guys for all the views, likes and comments! It is thanks to all of you that it is worth it to make videos.
Maxdon: Danse is a synth
SS: Yep
Maxdon: And he undermines everything the brotherhood taught you and stands for
SS: Yep
Maxdon: And so he shouldn't exist.
SS: makes sense to me
Madon: so kill him.
SS: I wont do it.
Maxxing:kill him now, that's an order
SS: That's a fine looking coat you have there
That's the ending I aspired to have but didn't know how to go about it. This gives me so much peace watching this ending. Danse was a great character and was sorry to see him go when I found him already gone in the bunker before I arrived. 😔 Thank you for making this, its great to see what could've been.
Wait, he can die before you get to the bunker?
[Sarcastic] "Wait, he's a robot?! What else has he been keeping from me?"
8:50 Danse is actually Sole Survivor's grandson *(as Generation 3 Synth)* , because of *Shaun's/(Father's)* DNA being used in their creating.
fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Synth
Aleksandar Vil why did u do this to me
To give explanation: personal reason for Sole Survivor not lose another member of his family (by blood/DNA)
You can romance him too
: ‘ )
“I don’t care if he is a machine or not, he is still Danse”
Yet here you are killing all other “machines”
When Danse said do it I kept picturing him as palpatine
What really worked for me:
1 - eat the Grape Mentats on Danse Room. Then follow the video tip. 2 2 - After earing the mentats I convinced Danse when I talked about my family. Then, eat one more Grape mentats before talk to Arthur.
Quick save before you leave listening point bravo! 6 points into charisma and I managed to persuade Maxson on the 3rd attempt
I thought the story twist that Danse was a synth was pretty surprising actually
I had 10 charisma and still failed to convince Maxson
Although the Brotherhood's stance on synths is correct, I wanted to save Danse. I tried this and it wouldn't work. I took literally every pathway and every pathway ended up with Danse dead. Granted, I haven't leveled up my persuasion, so I couldn't choose all options, but even when I was forced to kill Elder Maxon, Danse ended up dead although Elder Maxon wasn't even close to killing him. So basically if you don't level up your persuasion, there is no way to save Danse to my understanding and experience.
i know it was 3 years ago, but you could save before speaking so you can try as many times as you want and then you'll succeed
@@DemonFox-oo4gn H*** I found you can save during the conversations after passing checks.
There was gonna be an alternate ending to this quest where you and Paladin Danse go back to the Prydwen and you have a battle to the death with Elder Maxson so that you become the new Elder.
This video was recorded with my previous gpu, that's why the graphics look like crap;)
ButcherPete this is crap? This is extreme graphics for my laptop
See this right here is why I consider charisma the best S.P.E.C.I.A.L
Omg. There's a simple explanation for this. Danse is the human that the synth was copied from!! That's why the DNA matches!! If I could make a quest mod, that's the ending I would make.. 😥
Paul Belanger 😍😍😍😍 dude so freaking awesome. Do it
Joseph Taylor sadly, I don't own Fallout 4. I'm also not capable of creating a mod. I'm just wishing I could...😥
but danse has a synth component in the actual game, so he really is the synth. but that would make a good mod.
...or that an actual Danse as well as Rhys and Haylen were captured and replaced by the Institute, and you can find and rescue them
But Father’s DNA is the basis of all synths
it would be cool if danse was a mercenary in the next game like mcready
That Really Wouldn’t Be Possible,
Many Players Executed Danse
Many Players Joined The Institute/Railroad/Minuteman
Many Players Didn’t Execute Him.
So Yeah, Also Theres No Danse In Fallout 76,
Also Late.
@@justarandomguy.6365 76 is the prequel to all the fallout games dawg lol
@SAVAGE xLnDx
But Fallout 76 Takes Place In West Virginia.
@@justarandomguy.6365 no duh. It's a prequel. Prequel means before. 76 takes place before all the other games
I Know.
I swear maxon makes blowing up the prydwyn even more cathartic.
Those textures.... You are probably some pc master race
gaby06nice This video was made after I had purchased my new video card yes.
i can say the graphics have definitely improved a lot over the years
This game may get a lot a flack for not being good, but that voice acting for elder maxson is amazing.
You can hear the real enthusiasm and devotion to his belief bringing this character alive. I also give credit to the animators taking the time for his movement.
Sorry just wanted to share something good about fallout 4.
It’s a good game, just too different to what people expect from a fallout game
Its a great game. Are you kidding me. The reception is overall good.
Its an Ok game but a bad Fallout game.
They legit put grape mentats in the room where Danse is hiding in, it's clear what choice they want you to make lol.
Steps
1. Spare Danse
2. Make Arthur listen to you
3. Tell him to leave him alone
There you go
I am still pissed they cut the option to challenge Maxson as Elder.
when u pick the " I already lost my family I won the argument
This warms my heart even though this is a video game
I think i just got danse to cross the border and hes safe now and nick now admires me! Hope danse gets out safe and sound....
So if u go back to the bunker can u recruit as a companion again? Also can u send him to a base by double swapping him with a different companion?
Thank you knight, for saving me.
After I was forced to kill Danse, I literally went back to the Prydwen and slaughtered EVERYONE. It took a lot of stimpacks but it was so worth it
I saved before I murdered everyone so I could continue the storyline BUT I WAS STILL PISSED
That Bromance though!
How many charisma points do you need to keep dance alive?
Once i had 9 points but i couldnt save him
Honestly? I was shocked to find out about Paladin Dance , but if you think about it, in the beginning something was a little off with him ,. I remember when he stayed behind. I had no idea. I chose to save or spare him.
How to convience Maxson
1. Invest in Charisma throughout the game
Or
1. Obtain and equip a suit and a formal hat
2. Get drunk
3. Grape mentats are OP and broken, use them
I had terrible charisma so I had to reload the save like 10 times until I finally did it and I wish that they didn't cut the choice out for Danse to become elder because I would much prefer Danse being elder than Maxson.
My question is what would happen if you gear dense out after this conclusion, armored vault suit and heavy combat armor with MK VI X0 1 power armor and just mosey on up to the airport, will danse retaliate to the attacks? Maybe let the companion seek vengeance we think he deserves, on his own. I may have to try for myself
Do you have to relay to Institute with the Brotherhood in order to get this quest?
ty for saving me!
Paldain Danse O U T S T A N D I N G
Why do you still treat other non human life forms so badly even knowing that
The voice actor for Proctor Quinlan sounds so familiar is it the same voice actor who played Alister in tomb raider Legend and underworld?
He just hackin and wacking and smackin!
The promote scene makes no sense if you save him. Hey we lost the "traitor" but you let him live so here have a promotion in his place.
When I played through this, I'd at some point traded with him and took off his cowl and put it back on. Then I looted his uniform... And was unable to put it back thru his power armor. So then when I got to this point, seeing him through the window at the bunker... He was naked! I think it added something to the scene tho. This is the moment where he's the most exposed and vulnerable. It really worked for the scene.
So if I pre-save the game, I can retry to save him if it somehow goes wrong ? No matter how many times it fails?
can you still use him as a companion or does he leave the commonwealth?
If after this encounter, does danse still become hostile if i go against the bos?
“I Need to Be the Example, Not the Exception” 😢
I like how at the end of the day they all still think your an average person after seeing the godly power of a cheat terminal or just plan old carnage with a fat man/big boy
I got a question I put some other armor on paladin dance before blind betrayal so if I get this quest will I lose those armor cus Danse took his off
I had a super high persuasion by that point so the friend comment convinced him right away
So I guess danse joined the brotherhood and they never gave him a physical? Until now? How could they not know he was a synthe for his entire military career??? or otherwise he was replaced by a synth at some point in his career in the brotherhood. And the details of that fact would be really pertinent and significant to the story and to the reality of the situation they dropped the entire concept. Because in order to fool the brotherhood they would have had to make a synth that was just as committed to the brotherhood as the original danse was which is tactically no better than having the original danse unless you're trying to make the point that a synth can be ethical which sounds exactly like something father would do. Except that it means killing the ethical man to replace it with the ethical synth in order to prove the point? Unless it was just a combat death and father was somehow being compassionate by trying to replace dance without getting attacked by the brotherhood itself? Convoluted
I'm crying
The biased developers definitely stacked the deck against BOS to a ridiculous extent
after Far Harbor it would've been interesting if we could force/convince Danse to replace Maxon.
Just started playing fallout 4 and joined the brotherhood of steel now I know to put more focus on speechcraft ah I mean charisma thanks bud
i didnt like how Maxson dropped his values in this quest it didnt make sense
Because it's a cut content mod.
Maxon is so cold he doesn't even feel sad to have to kill Dance
Kazuhira Miller MILLER!!!!
I wonder if you dont put the tape in the computer when you go into the institute and ignore that mission and just leave? That way no one would have a list with danse on it from the institute.
I tested it out. Your forced to load the tape into the institute computer if you want to exit the institute. So your funneled. No choice at that bottleneck of the playthrough.
Damn maxson does have a heart afterall😢
What happened if you bring danse is prydwin as companion, after this mission?
What lvl of charisma did u have to speak with them is 10 enough? Lv 8 + 2 levels of bobblehead
Can anyone tell me, can I still do this quest just before I decide to end with the railroad? Build the relay tower with them but I still want Danse to be a companion
praise charisma !
can you pursue maxon to keep danse as paladin?