Funny, I've never even been to New York and that was also my first thought. I know it's not common with all accents but it seems to be a something of a recurring thing with distinctive regional accents. Being the kind of omni-nerd I am, I'd genuinely be fascinated to see people with backgrounds in linguistics and neurology contribute to a video essay explaining it. It feels like your more advanced but much slower prefrontal cortex might be part of the brain committee that tones down regional accents so an angry or upset response might slip by before it noticed? Just a _very_ poorly-educated guess.
It's kind of like when Australians get hired to work in movies or TV shows in the U.S., or when they're just not playing to a predominately Australian audience (Steve Irwin, etc)... their Australian accent reaches an almost Simpsons-level of comedic over-the-topness. Sometimes they're doing it on purpose, I guess, but a lot of the time I think it just naturally happens. (I'm Australian, BTW. Went to school in the U.S. for a few years and my nickname was "Fosters"...)
Characters usually say they are "too old" for their profession when they are reaching the age of retirement. That age can differ slightly from one profession to another, but it is usually around the age of NOT AT THIRTY NINE.
This is me just spitballing, but if I had to guess, a lot of Egon’s “too old for this” attitude could easily be chalked up to just the mental toll that being a Ghostbuster inflicted on him. Seriously, even if we’re just going by The Real Ghostbusters, he’s been possessed at least once, forced to confront a deep-seated childhood terror (read: the Bogeyman) twice, laid eyes upon Cthulhu, and nearly been killed on numerous occasions. Frankly, it’s a miracle he hadn’t gone insane by the events of this show.
Makes me feel a bit older, for me it was Elvira....can't believe she didn't get a Saturday morning cartoon based off a movie not aimed at kids initially like Robocop or Toxic Avenger.
There was a TV series called ' War of the Worlds ' that was set years after the events of the movie, were a vast majority of the world, but not everyone had a collective amnesia that's not aware of the world changing events from the movie. Not mention historic monuments and governments all over the world were completely destroyed! This kind of reminds me that in this series, some people remember the events in the The two movies and pervious series but not others ones! Sorry for my awkward rambling! 😔
@@teedup8995 Dude you're right, I know that series as I am a huge WotW fan and it blows my mind, it's like forgetting World War 2 or 9/11. Forgetting Ghosts exist is like forgetting turtles exist. Sure you never see a turtle everyday but you don't forget they exist.
So Egon is Brain, Kylie is Raven, Eduardo is Batman, Garrett is Max from the Goof Troop and Gadget from Static Shock, Roland was Fresh Prince's cousin? Sweet cast!
@@poochyenajones1362 Correct as Garrett mentioned that due to him being paralyzed he can no longer drive and had to voluntarily give his license up, Eduardo never even made the attempt to get his license, and Kylie stated that she couldn't even reach the pedals due to her height. Meaning Roland was the only one with a valid Driver's License and could actually drive the Ecto-1.
One can never recapture the magic of the Extreme Ghostbusters as it was happening. Heck, I would wake up at 6 AM just to make sure I wouldn't miss the show which aired at 7 AM.
They should have called it 'Ghostbusters: The Next Generation.' It would have let people know about the time skip along with the new cast and brought in the Trekkies
And Trek was red hot at the time, maybe that was the problem actually, they were so hot that they might have thought they could sue anyone else who used the TNG name.
Either way we Get the Point of It Being a New Cast no matter the title!. The Series just suffered from lackluster Character Development..If this was Focused it would have held up to par with The Real GBs!
This series definitely had a lot of potential and I agree with some oh Phelous's critiques and yeah Egon should have been used more,since it seems like a bad idea to give proton packs to 4 college students who don't have any experience in this field. Things that could've made extreme a bit better Have the first part of the series be Egon training the new group so they be better equipped for dealing with Ghosts. As the series Egon gives them the choice to leave if they want because they are just kids in College,which gives a nice dynamic between the team and Egon since wouldn't want to deprive any of them a normal life. Have Eduardo grow more as Ghost Buster. Expand more on the world Extreme is set in and for the crossover have one of the original members try to give the kids some words of wisdom.Maybe have a dynamic between Peter and Eduardo,Eduardo is slightly jealous of Peter and Peter thinks Eduardo isn't cut out for this job which brings back what I said would help the series Eduardo growing more as a Ghost Buster and grow into more of a hero. Sorry if I brought this up I just felt like saying what I think could've helped Extreme as a series.
+PIEGUYRULZ I'll second that. While I do think Phelous' horror reviews are his best stuff (well, that and Halloweenie), I very much enjoy his cartoon reviews as well, especially when he analyses the entire show. I'd also like to see some of that for live-action shows.
After living through three years of the COVID era, I have to say it's a little easier for me to buy that at least a significant portion of the general public would buy into a narrative of a very real and volatile omnipresent threat being a hoax, despite an abundance of evidence to the contrary.
Who else feels like that this should have been what the new Ghostbusters movie should be? The old generation of Ghostbusters teaching a new generation of Ghostbusters then it wouldn't matter if it was all girls or all boys or a little bit of both. Heck it could be this team from extreme ghostbusters except without the extreme part. I feel like this would make a great reboot! Who is with me?
Good idea. It would have allowed the executive to pander the SJW angle they went with without pissing off anyone else, except maybe half the people who actually watched Extreme Ghostbusters.
Kylie Griffin was the highlight of the show for me. She is one of the best female protagonists in the franchise alongside Janine. I do prefer the IDW Version of her character, but Extreme’s was great too and Tara Strong’s Voice Acting was hand in hand with her design.
I was just thinking - do you reckon whoever initially conceived her character was a Neil Gaiman fan? Overall, her character is obviously _very_ different from Death in Sandman but I can see the potential influence in an original pitch. Also, totally agree about her being a great and _very_ well-performed character (not that you'd ever expect less from Tara Strong).
Honestly I really love this series, it keeps the sprit of "real ghostbusters" while still being a modernization and I really respect the series for pushing boundaries even "real ghostbusters" wouldn't.
Isn't the Eduardo scientist thing an example of him bragging to make himself seem more important or prestigious? As you say, he's obviously not a scientist, but it's something that you could try to project to people who don't know any better.
+Paul Dennett Yeah, that's definitely how it was meant to come off as. I'm not sure if Phelan got that but I can't see how that could have flown over his head so I think he's harping on it for the sake of the joke. But that's just my assumption.
He uses the line the same way Peter did in the movie, hence why I referenced it. Eduardo doesn't need to lie to people about being a scientist to impress them when he's running around with a nuclear accelerator on his back. He could say, "I'm a Ghostbuster!" instead. The show never plays the line like he's saying something inaccurate when it's said and he never gets called on it.
+Anthony Barratt Dino Thunder, Dino Charge is the current series, well it's Dino Super Charge now because they've hit part two. I don't blame you for that mistake though they could've used something other than the word Dino for the current series.
+SuperPrinnyDood Depends is the blurred face optional? I wonder if they did it because they originally planned for him to have died in the line of duty or something.
+Chris McWilliams I'm gonna admit, the would be interestingly ballsy. As well as a very interesting plot point, then the original ghostbusters just quitting an finding new jobs. An would serve as a point, for Egon the close shop on the ghost buster business. That would be interesting im not gonna lie.
silentecho92able That would be the only reason I would think to have a statue like that around. Guess maybe someone chickened out. It would also have added a new level in the episode where the rest of them got back together, especially if they blamed each other in some way or other.
Chris McWilliams If i were, to have my way the pilot ep, would open in the first 5-10 minutes, (Like in Batman beyond were Bruce quits being batman) an Unknown powerful entity, confronted the Real Ghostbusters, in which nearly destroyed the city, by opening a gateway too the ghost world. An Peter sacrificed himself too save everyone an got sucked into the ghost realm. After his death or disappearance, the team breaks down an disband, Leaving Egon an Janine too closeshop, the ghostbusters were slowly forgotten. Timeskip too years later a new team comes in Egon or Janine having reservation due too what happens too peter, about the new team. but reluctantly trains them. An the face dark an more scarier ghost. Both new an old one. An risk an consequence are high. That would make the show more centered, a more mature teen audience, then kids. making it more standout. Though it may alienate fans of the original series. but its just my idea. Also im not gonna lie "The Ep "Deadliners" was the 1st ep i watched in this cartoon. an it gave me nightmares when i was a kid.
I think the bit with Eduardo's insistence that they're "scientists" was basically him trying to establish himself as a person of respect since he feels that being a Ghostbuster is probably the most successful thing he's done that helps people since he got crap for it from his family by not becoming a cop like the rest of them.
I am going to try and explain the "Ghost of a Ghost" thing. Slimer's body is ectoplasm that is formed around his spirit self. If the new evil ghost were to push the spirit part of Slimer out of the ectoplasm body then it could occupy that ectoplasm. HOWEVER, the ectoplasm should reform around Slimer's spirit like it does when he gets smashed or passes thru a wall. Maybe the evil ghost has the ability to lock spirits out of whatever ethereal field that ectoplasm is formed from. Working in higher dimensions, like lifting someone out of a maze and putting them in a cage overlooking it. They are not in the maze, but can see it.
I remember there was an episode of The Real Ghostbusters where they fought the spirit of Dracula who was biting ghosts and drinking their ectoplasm. I think the ghosts who got bit lost a bunch of their powers, so your idea may have some precedent actually.
+ravager48 Extreme Dinosaurs, Extreme Ghostbusters, Extreme Justice, GI Joe Extreme...Actually that's about all I can remember, and one of those was a comic book.
+Herschal Shep Don't forget that show on the Disney After Noon about Hewie Dewie and Lewie, Quack Pack I think it was called. It was the exact same thing, extreme everything!
Tyler R Yeah. Admittedly though, I kinda liked that show. Hewie, Dewie, and Lewie had the most bland stereotypical personalities one can imagine, but the animation and plots were usually fun. But it's been years, might be nostalgia blindness.
Herschal Shep Oh I won't judge, I liked a lot of crap when I was a kid, I didn't know better. But its not a good sign when even Disney was taking the whole 90s extreme thing seriously. Still better then the Mighty Duck show.
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario Not really. Other than it (seemingly) being centered around a new, younger team being mentored by one or more of the original GBs it's pretty dissimilar to Extreme. The series was about four, college age people, under Egon's tutelage, becoming Ghostbusters. Afterlife is about Egon's grandkids carrying on his legacy. Truthfully though I think they should've amalgamated the two. Depict Kylie Griffin as Egon's granddaughter and Roland, Garrett & Eduardo as a couple fellow, highschool outcasts she befriends.
@@alexlemonds2838 that's what they should've done but Afterlife is gunna suck like other modern sequels and I bet ya Ray Peter and Winston hardly feature in at all they will be given the same treatment as the OT characters in Disneys shitty Star Wars sequels
@@markpugh6808 it's classic SOny backtracking. female bustrs didn't work, so they're grasping at straws : stranger things is popular, let's do that, but force in some weak shit about Egon's grandkids : sony can eff off.
Definitely enjoyed the review, though might have liked to hear more opinions on the ghosts themselves and how inventive they got; I love the "Fear Itself" episode the most, where the ghostly embodiment of fear is itself terrified of everything, and the team actually feels sorry for it and doesn't trap it at all. Eduardo taking so well to the ghostbuster life despite no academic interest in the supernatural makes sense, I mean, it's an exciting, heroic and mostly physical job rather than something he has to think too hard about.
+Jonathan Wojcik Wasn't there one where the ghost was the house they were trapped in or something? I think there was also another where they went after the Jersey Devil.
I'm pretty sure the show was syndicated, and if the original run of *The Real Ghostbusters* is any indication, syndicated shows don't have to deal with the network censors like other shows do.
Kylie was the best of the new characters as she was the only one that wasn't essentially a reiteration of the originals. But Sony seemed to love that French style of characters, they used it again in the Men in Black and Jumanji series'. I absolutely couldn't stand that Klasky-Csupo esque design fad of the 90s. But then again everyone just rips off Adventure Time now, so I don't know what's worse.
+Larry Bundy Jr I thought I was the only one who noticed that many cartoons now are copying Adventure Time's style (which I thought was started by The Misadventures of Flapjack). So now Anime doesn't have to feel like the only ones regurgitating the same art and animation style across the board and pretending it's being fresh.
+humanconvertile When its same productions that does certain cartoons/animes, that's not surprising and really since way back there's always been some show that's been popular and its many copycats (the scooby doo ones, smurf ones, etc).
+Larry Bundy Jr Actually I'm pretty sure the Jumanji series was done by the same studio that did Duckman. The character design quirks were VERY similar.
+Larry Bundy Jr I'm not sure what you mean by "French" style of characters. Do you mean a style that was popular in France or showed up in a lot of French works? ('m asking because I'm French so maybe I don't realize it's a style that's specific to our culture :P)
I remember when I first saw "Deadliners" I had nightmares for a whole week. I really think that the designs of monsters in this episode were really great.
I only remember one thing from this show. A ghost that grants wishes and I believe Kyile beating it by saying I wish you wouldn't grant my wish. That line and her level headed thought is why I remember her though nothing else.
So... the show treats being 39 as making you less physically able to fight ghosts than being paralyzed? I mean, Garret is in great shape and Egon is a bit flabby, but even so that's ridiculous.
In regards to the Eduardo's scientist line. There is maybe one or two times this is said where it's played more like the fact he isn't is part of the joke like when he accidentally shoots his proton stream after saying it. The rest of the time it is straight up used as a strange qualifier for their actions like the original Peter line without any hint of irony about it. In fact in the episode Back in the Saddle Peter mentions failing a few times in college didn't stop him from being a scientist and then he and Eduardo exchange a knowing smile. If you don't want to believe me watch the scenes again where he says that for the context of how it's used.
+Phelan “Phelous” Porteous I think Eduardo just used that catchphrase to sound smart/cool. One of the supporting characters in the episode 'Mole People' actually refutes that statement.
+Phelan “Phelous” Porteous hay is this the real Phelouse? if so I was wondering if you had any plans to do a review of the godziller animated series or men in black, that were on round about the same time as EGB
Egon is too old because he's 39?! I'm offended! I'm 39! God, I'm old *snif* (Only kidding, 39 is is NOT too old). Btw: i've never seen Extreme Ghostbusters, so it's nice to get to know more in this review. Keep 'em coming, Phelous!
Personally, I put the blame solely on the era it came out in. The late 90's to mid 2000's was sort of a transitional period for cartoons. If Extreme Ghostbusters came out in the late 2000's onward it could have been exactly what it should have been. Oh well, maybe another version will come out that will be awesome some day.
Eduardo getting the clown zapped out of him but none of the other clowns being similarly affected can be chalked up to the fact that he'd only just been transformed, whereas the other clowns had been that way for far longer. Too much time had elapsed and they had passed the point of no return. Same with Roland; there hadn't been enough time to "digest" him
I'm very happy that you gave this show a fair shot as many fans of Real Ghostbusters tend to give the expectable "it's not what I watched therefore it's garbage" reaction. I'm not a super-fan of the show or anything but I do remember liking it as a kid and I think you hit the nail right on the head on its strengths and weaknesses. Maybe one day people will learn from the various incarnations of the show and make a new one that updates the concepts while still staying true to the spirit of the original and most importantly, will have as much attention for detail as the original. And hopefully THIS time they'll allow the show to have the dead remain dead and have their ghosts be bloody ghosts!
I totally thought this when I was younger: Garrett being the enthusiastic athlete, I pictured him zipping around through a crowd of ghosts with trap-hubcaps, sucking every entity up as he does a flashy 360 spin or something else "extreme". The main thought was, with all the tech and different Ectos (es?) that existed since TRGB, couldn't Garrett get some awesome enhancements to his chair? I know they wanted to emphasize the idea that someone in a wheelchair didn't need a bunch of additional assistance to succeed with the rest, but I still would've liked to see some good use of new equipment, especially being in a chair with his character traits. Then again, it would've created even easier outs and wrap-ups in plot solutions, as he would've became too op.
+Hewylewis To be fair, I am not fully sure there is anything Jim Cummings can't do. But yeah, strange to have such a great voice talent sing a song to a show he was never in.
+Natalie Kirk like that "Robot Chicken" bit where the ghost falls down the stairs and becomes a ghost again ("this is unprecedented" ). That or "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" where the ghost kept getting killed by cell phone signals and coming back as the ghost of the ghost or the ghost of the ghost of the ghost or whatever. :)
I just recalled the bit on "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" where the ghost kept getting killed by cellphone signals and kept coming back. "I'm the ghost of the ghost who...." *pop* Happened like half a dozen times and was funny every time. :)
Thanks for covering this series. I was 15 when this premiered and watched it every morning before school. I was a Ghostbusters fanatic back in the 80s and early 90s so I loved it. No it wasn’t as good as those first seasons of TRG, but it was certainly fun especially to someone just getting in to horror movies and spotting all the movies they borrowed from for their monsters of the week.
Dave Couliers Venkman still sounds like when an immature kids tries to imitate someone he doesn't like, or thinks is stupid. Really reeks of the that level of exaggerated oafishness. Whether or not that was intentional is beyond me, given the guy is neither very funny or that good of a voice actor (see his take on Felix the Cat for further reference) Really makes it hard to appreciate even the better written lines. It really wouldn't be so hard to get over, except for the fact that every other human character at least talks like a normal person. Is there really nobody in the studio at the time who heard this?
+BlackBeWhite2k7 To be fair though, Coulier did sound a lot more like Bill Murray than Lorenzo Music did, but Music's voice was always more fun to listen to.
Chris C. I kinda don't hear it, to be honest...but that's probably because Bill's best humor is normally very laid back and dry in it's delivery, much like Lorenzo Music's. Coulier's always sounds like he's trying way to hard to get a laugh out of really young children, which feels even more out of place given the tone Extreme Ghost-busters was going for.
Yeah, he makes it SO HARD to give praise. When grabbing the Peter lines I thought were better written his delivery of them still pretty much drains the charm out of them.
Winston is the perfect foil to the rest of the GBs because he could explain the technobabble of the other members. He was also key in providing a simple, effective solution when the others were overanalyzing the situation. I've heard folks call him the least of the members and I believe they're a bunch of idiots because they don't look into his character enough. I think it's pretty plain when watching the first two film's.
Nice and thorough retrospective. A lot of us "Real" collectors were saddened by the fact that the follow-up series never got an official release, thus making our collections incomplete. But at least Hulu has the whole show now in their catalog.
I'm fairly certain the line of 'I am thirty-nine' was a nod to Jack Benny, who was famous for saying that on the air and stage when anyone remarked about his age, from 1940 to 1974. He had 41 39th Birthday celebrations.
I dunno, I think the "I'm a scientist" catchphrase works if you look at it as Eduardo acting like a bit of a poser, rather than being serious about it. Like he assumes that BECAUSE he's a Ghostbuster, that automatically makes him a scientist. It seems in-character for a dumb college kid whose either a little to full of themself, or not too bright. Or both. That said, I haven't actually seen the show proper. So for all I know, this wasn't how it came across in the series.
I saw the series new, and being about 8 I just thought "Hell Yeah!" XD. When rewatching years later assumed basically that it was Eduardo being self-important, though his attempts to bumble through exams in some episodes with sophistic gibberish he can't pronounce - with Kylie typically catching him out - demonstrates the dim element. He got plenty of moments to offset it by being brave or selfless though, most being connected to Kylie in some way. In many ways he's the Beast Boy of the series.
Come to think of it, Eduardo is pretty much the same character as Randy from GTS. Both being jerk-with-a-heart-of-gold college age slackers with an on/off relationship with one of the main female characters (IE: Kylie in XGB and Monique in GTS). They also spoke gratitious Spanish since both were of Central/South American descent (Though, since Randy is Brazilian, he should be speaking Portuguese, not Spanish).
I kinda think originally, Garrett was supposed to call Eduardo a pansy, but that got censored at the last minute, hence the daisy line not making sense.
+Rory Lumley Unless chasing around ghost and traveling between dimensions has taken a toll on his body, even psychic damage from well traveling into the storage unit. Least that is my head cannon for why he is less active.
This series actually introduced me to Ghostbusters plus it kept me up at night especially the clowns leprechaun and grendel thing at my window at night
I think many of the issues you mentioned might have been worked out if the show had gotten more than 40 episodes. Had it gotten another season or two, I'm sure that the team would've gone up against more classic baddies from RGB like Samhain. As for the question of why Eduardo stuck around on the team despite his apathy towards the paranormal, I like to believe that he DID plan to leave after the pilot, but changed his tune after seeing the check from the team's first "regular" bust.
Great review....I definitely remember the darker aspects of the show as a kid. The "Hellraiser" one really was dark and it set the tone in the first minute.
Před 8 lety+7
Extreme is exactly what the reboot should have been.
+James007HungerZone I know. I have nothing against having one or two female characters, that's fair. I would prefer an honest to god sequel with the REAL GHOSTBUSTERS, but if you absolutely must, then do that. Having it all female just feels kinda pointless, that's all. Its hardly a big complaint for me, my biggest issue is, its happening. I hate most remakes, and seeing how poor Harold Ramis isn't even alive, it just doesn't feel right. And the fact the entire cast is cameoing through out the whole damn movie pisses me off more! MAKE THEM THE ORIGINAL CHARACTERS IF YOU HAVE THEM! Fuck! Hell, if they wanted to do an all female cast, why not just bring back Annie Potts for a main role? I would love that. But no, cameo. Sorry, the subject of the remake just pisses me off.
The thing that pisses me off about the remake is the fact that, besides Dan Ackroyd, non of the original stars wanted to make a true sequel, but they are all okay with making cameos in this.
James007HungerZone Don't get me started on Bill Murray. I love the guy, but what an asshole thing to do. GB3 didn't get made simply because of him, and the moment they reboot it, he shows up. What utter bullshit! Still one of my favorite comedic actors, but still.
An interesting idea brought up in one of the recent IDW ghost buster comic cross over between the real Ghost busters and IDW ghost busters is that not only are the Real ghost busters and IDW are set in different universes but so are the 88 Ghost Buster's and Extreme, it's even implied that Extrame Ghost busters is a different universe all together than Real. Although how that works when Extreme and Real do share some ( it's not much ) but some conterunity. So maybe in the Extreme verse the Real ghost busters had less of an impact, perhaps after Gozar the ghosts didn't appear as much as in the real series. But that's just a guess on my part
I liked how when Maurice LeMarche is saying "I'm a has-been", he winds up sounding more like Brain for a second. That part though did really push the attitudes the writers must have thought the kids these days had. Some idea that nobody over the age of 25 or so can do anything physical. Egon really should have been there more often during the cases, gradually showing up less and less as the team got more competent and better understood what they were doing. Also, I think with the Killjoys/Clown monsters, they established that they turned Eduardo into one of them to replace the one they captured. Seemed to imply that the 4 initial ones were part of a starting gang of sorts that had died and become ghosts, whereas Eduardo wasn't dead and it was akin to him being possessed in a manner similar to Kylie in the first two episodes. Though it does raise the question as to why the other people didn't return. Maybe because the final monster at the end was like a hive-mind and you have to destroy it? I mean Roland came out of nowhere at the end.
Being born in the 90s and only allowed a minimal amount of tv when I was younger, this was actually my very first exposure to Ghostbusters and it made me want to be a ghostbuster. Watching the ghostbusters movie for the first time, I was disinterested somewhat in seeing the egon, ray, peter, and winston and not the extreme team. But now I could appreciate both, but this series will always have a special place in my heart. And wow, is that Raimundo's voice who plays the rebel of the group? I hear it sometimes so if it's not, whoops...and Fry...sure could make pet sounds. Alfonso I never realized, despite being a huge Fresh Prince fan and a contemporary show I would watch it but given how he was mostly passed over, I guess it is forgivable. Of course Tara is a walking library of voices, you never could tell. But omg, it's Tino!!! :D that one surprised me most of all as it is among my favorite sounding voices. Well, later days.
I actually really like Eduardo's scientist catch phrase, especially since it's so obviously not true. It tells something about his character that he'd keep emphasizing it constantly.
Concerning why Garret is in a wheelchair it was revealed in the episode that had the team dealing with a evil leprechaun who supposedly sealed away Garret's good luck and skills in leadership, strategy, and use with the proton pack that he was originally the star player of the basketball team at the university him, Eduardo, Roland, and Kylie went to but he was later caught in a car accident that resulted in the other driver getting killed but Garret survived but at the cost of being paralyzed in both of his legs with 0% chance of being able to walk again and for a while Garret carried the guilt with him along with a belief that being wheelchair-bound will result in him losing his ability to do sports along with him losing his ability to function in society but he later forgave himself along with learning how to play sports and function in society while wheelchair bound he revealed this to Egon during a heart-to-heart with his mentor who gave some useful advice that gave Garret his confidence back which allowed him to save the rest of the team from the evil leprechaun.
When he keeps saying “I'm a scientist.” they should have one of the characters said “Just because you're a Ghostbuster, doesn't make you- Oh whatever, forget it.” or something along those lines.
I never really got a chance to see this show, but it seems very similar to the MIB cartoon from around the same period. That show had pretty good plots, humor, and gruesome alien designs.
I was born in 89, so I missed out on the original cartoon, but I do recall seeing this on television a few times but never really sat down and really watched it. Shame, this actually looks pretty fun. Gotta say, I really like that remix of the theme.
So kind of egon to wake up one morning before 1997 and say to himself, "i should really take this privately owned building where i live and work completely alone, and make it one hundred percent ADA accessible. Just in case."
Yeah, Eduardo took the class for an easy A and doesn't believe in the beginning. It seems you don't like that. It also seems you've forgotten Winston Zeddmore's character arc.
38:42 wrong. in that episode, after Eduardo had turned into normal and Roland had come back, Garrett commented:"well, Roland can't be the only nudist in here. let's find the others." they went to look for rest of the victims in the clownhouse and the episode ended.
This show would always air in a time slot that would take place halfway into my morning, so every morning, between September and December of that year, I would only be able to watch the first HALF of each episode, unless I was sick or there was a snow day. Given my age at the time, the grade I was in, and the intelligence level of my teachers, I argue to this day, as an adult, knowing what I learned at the time, and after rewatching this show 30 years later that I would’ve gotten more useful life education if i actually skipped class and watched this show instead
As a New Yorker, my accent intensifies when I'm upset, so I think it's actually realistic that Kylie's accent does the same.
Funny, I've never even been to New York and that was also my first thought. I know it's not common with all accents but it seems to be a something of a recurring thing with distinctive regional accents. Being the kind of omni-nerd I am, I'd genuinely be fascinated to see people with backgrounds in linguistics and neurology contribute to a video essay explaining it. It feels like your more advanced but much slower prefrontal cortex might be part of the brain committee that tones down regional accents so an angry or upset response might slip by before it noticed? Just a _very_ poorly-educated guess.
I come from Cologne in Germany and my accent gets stronger when I'm upset.
I guess this is a worldwide phenomenon
It's kind of like when Australians get hired to work in movies or TV shows in the U.S., or when they're just not playing to a predominately Australian audience (Steve Irwin, etc)... their Australian accent reaches an almost Simpsons-level of comedic over-the-topness. Sometimes they're doing it on purpose, I guess, but a lot of the time I think it just naturally happens. (I'm Australian, BTW. Went to school in the U.S. for a few years and my nickname was "Fosters"...)
Characters usually say they are "too old" for their profession when they are reaching the age of retirement. That age can differ slightly from one profession to another, but it is usually around the age of NOT AT THIRTY NINE.
PiranhaCupcake can it be lower?
Well many athletes that earned enough to not being forced to become trainers or managers later retire at that age or earlier.
@@hildegardvonbingen9092 this. I know a girl who was a professional dancer. Shes 24 and her spine is already fucked up
the problem is Egon is younger in Extreme than he was in the movies, so uh yeah.
nobody did their homework here.
This is me just spitballing, but if I had to guess, a lot of Egon’s “too old for this” attitude could easily be chalked up to just the mental toll that being a Ghostbuster inflicted on him. Seriously, even if we’re just going by The Real Ghostbusters, he’s been possessed at least once, forced to confront a deep-seated childhood terror (read: the Bogeyman) twice, laid eyes upon Cthulhu, and nearly been killed on numerous occasions. Frankly, it’s a miracle he hadn’t gone insane by the events of this show.
I was seven when Extreme Ghostbusters was on TV.
I blame Kylie Griffin for directly causing my lifelong thing for goth girls.
She's Quality Goth.
@@Igarappappa Guess I found my people.
Makes me feel a bit older, for me it was Elvira....can't believe she didn't get a Saturday morning cartoon based off a movie not aimed at kids initially like Robocop or Toxic Avenger.
Kylie Griffin & Raven; once seen never forgotten ^_^ .
Yeah her and Gwen from Total Drama hooked me on the look of a Goth girl
Fun Fact: The animation style used for Extreme Ghostbusters was also used for Men In Black: The Series as well.
+Webshooters1 I thought the art style looked familiar!
+Webshooters1 Also Godzilla: The Series. And I believe Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot. That studio really got around in the 90s.
+Blackbird26155 I love Godzilla the Series
Better than the movie it was based on
Riley Morris I like both but the Godzilla in the series is more badass.
+Webshooters1 to me its more proof men in black meets ghosbusters, real or extreme, should have been a thing
The older I get, the more credible I find the whole idea of everyone just having forgotten that ghosts do actually exist.
There was a TV series called ' War of the Worlds ' that was set years after the events of the movie, were a vast majority of the world, but not everyone had a collective amnesia that's not aware of the world changing events from the movie. Not mention historic monuments and governments all over the world were completely destroyed! This kind of reminds me that in this series, some people remember the events in the The two movies and pervious series but not others ones!
Sorry for my awkward rambling! 😔
@@teedup8995 Dude you're right, I know that series as I am a huge WotW fan and it blows my mind, it's like forgetting World War 2 or 9/11.
Forgetting Ghosts exist is like forgetting turtles exist.
Sure you never see a turtle everyday but you don't forget they exist.
I think Eduardo calling himself a scientist is him trying to make himself saying more important.
He could easily have said he was a Ghostbuster and that would not only have made him sound more important but it would have actually been accurate...
@@gRinchY-op5vr With how they treat the Ghostbusters in this series, I doubt saying it would have gotten him any praise.
I think he means it as a joke. He knows that he's pretty much no scientist but it's fun to pretend that to people that dont know him
So Egon is Brain, Kylie is Raven, Eduardo is Batman, Garrett is Max from the Goof Troop and Gadget from Static Shock, Roland was Fresh Prince's cousin? Sweet cast!
Actually he’s mAx in the goofy movies. Max in goof troop was voiced by Dana Hill (different VA). Still good cast
@@JazzStation95 Alfonso Rebeiro
They Had a Talented Cast of Voice Actors, but they Didn't have Writers to Match the talent Level.
Also name was Gear, not Gadget, but still close/accurate.
@EverythingIC
And the guy who sang the theme song for this series was Jim Cummings, can’t forget him! :3
You know Roland being the driver wouldn't have been so bad if the show established he was the only member of the group who had a *DRIVERS LICENSE*
As we know, hearses aren't easy to control in the first place
Wait, I'm pretty sure it HAS been established that only Ronald had icense, a couple of times even. Hasn't it?
@@poochyenajones1362 Correct as Garrett mentioned that due to him being paralyzed he can no longer drive and had to voluntarily give his license up, Eduardo never even made the attempt to get his license, and Kylie stated that she couldn't even reach the pedals due to her height. Meaning Roland was the only one with a valid Driver's License and could actually drive the Ecto-1.
@@derrickhaggardWhat, couldn't she also afford a pair of goth platform boots?
I love the way Eduardo says "Scientist"
I love he said isopropes instead of isotopes
I'm so happy I was born at a time where I was able to enjoy The Real Ghostbusters and Extreme Ghostbusters.
I'd agree with you but what i know about them is entirely based on phelous videos including this one I can't even find those damn shows so I'm SOL
One can never recapture the magic of the Extreme Ghostbusters as it was happening. Heck, I would wake up at 6 AM just to make sure I wouldn't miss the show which aired at 7 AM.
They should have called it 'Ghostbusters: The Next Generation.' It would have let people know about the time skip along with the new cast and brought in the Trekkies
And Trek was red hot at the time, maybe that was the problem actually, they were so hot that they might have thought they could sue anyone else who used the TNG name.
Either way we Get the Point of It Being a New Cast no matter the title!. The Series just suffered from lackluster Character Development..If this was Focused it would have held up to par with The Real GBs!
This series definitely had a lot of potential and I agree with some oh Phelous's critiques and yeah Egon should have been used more,since it seems like a bad idea to give proton packs to 4 college students who don't have any experience in this field.
Things that could've made extreme a bit better
Have the first part of the series be Egon training the new group so they be better equipped for dealing with Ghosts.
As the series Egon gives them the choice to leave if they want because they are just kids in College,which gives a nice dynamic between the team and Egon since wouldn't want to deprive any of them a normal life.
Have Eduardo grow more as Ghost Buster.
Expand more on the world Extreme is set in and for the crossover have one of the original members try to give the kids some words of wisdom.Maybe have a dynamic between Peter and Eduardo,Eduardo is slightly jealous of Peter and Peter thinks Eduardo isn't cut out for this job which brings back what I said would help the series Eduardo growing more as a Ghost Buster and grow into more of a hero.
Sorry if I brought this up I just felt like saying what I think could've helped Extreme as a series.
It was the 90’s and everything was “Extreme”. The “Next Generation” was so 80’s. 🤣
@@trealsteve so true 😂😂😂
9:47 Takes me back when Harold Ramis died and someone released fanart of Egon’s ghost waving goodbye to his friends before being contained
Please do more of these cartoon retrospectives. You do a great job of going over the highs and lows of these shows.
Agreed. I wonder what other shows he could look at.
+PIEGUYRULZ I'll second that. While I do think Phelous' horror reviews are his best stuff (well, that and Halloweenie), I very much enjoy his cartoon reviews as well, especially when he analyses the entire show. I'd also like to see some of that for live-action shows.
+CaptainJZH
Possibly the Filmation Ghostbuster series, She-Ra, the He-Man sequel series, etc.
+PIEGUYRULZ Thanks! I plan to, just have to space them out a bit as they are a lot of work.
I just read a comment made by pieguyrules on a phelous video I don't fucking believe it but I guess more pleasantly surprising things have happened
After living through three years of the COVID era, I have to say it's a little easier for me to buy that at least a significant portion of the general public would buy into a narrative of a very real and volatile omnipresent threat being a hoax, despite an abundance of evidence to the contrary.
Kind of like how liberal New Yorkers pretend that violent crime in the city isn't out of control because of bail reform.
Who else feels like that this should have been what the new Ghostbusters movie should be? The old generation of Ghostbusters teaching a new generation of Ghostbusters then it wouldn't matter if it was all girls or all boys or a little bit of both. Heck it could be this team from extreme ghostbusters except without the extreme part. I feel like this would make a great reboot! Who is with me?
Olaya Mihalik
Well the Egon part would've been a little difficult to replicate.
RassilonTDavros easy just replace it with a different character
Mr Ducky Or you could just say Egon died for some reason.
Good idea. It would have allowed the executive to pander the SJW angle they went with without pissing off anyone else, except maybe half the people who actually watched Extreme Ghostbusters.
Olaya Mihalik my opinion is 6/10 HATE ME HATE ME GHOST BUSTERS FANS
Kylie Griffin was the highlight of the show for me. She is one of the best female protagonists in the franchise alongside Janine. I do prefer the IDW Version of her character, but Extreme’s was great too and Tara Strong’s Voice Acting was hand in hand with her design.
I was just thinking - do you reckon whoever initially conceived her character was a Neil Gaiman fan? Overall, her character is obviously _very_ different from Death in Sandman but I can see the potential influence in an original pitch. Also, totally agree about her being a great and _very_ well-performed character (not that you'd ever expect less from Tara Strong).
"Goth grrrls yeah" - Pan Pizza
Not gonna bring up the fact that Eduardo is also "The Batman?!"
*HE'S KIND OF WEARING HOCKEY PADS!!!*
Honestly I really love this series, it keeps the sprit of "real ghostbusters" while still being a modernization and I really respect the series for pushing boundaries even "real ghostbusters" wouldn't.
I loved Kylie as a kid. One of the most attractive animated women ever as far as I'm concerned.
Isn't the Eduardo scientist thing an example of him bragging to make himself seem more important or prestigious? As you say, he's obviously not a scientist, but it's something that you could try to project to people who don't know any better.
+Paul Dennett Yeah, that's definitely how it was meant to come off as. I'm not sure if Phelan got that but I can't see how that could have flown over his head so I think he's harping on it for the sake of the joke. But that's just my assumption.
He uses the line the same way Peter did in the movie, hence why I referenced it.
Eduardo doesn't need to lie to people about being a scientist to impress them when he's running around with a nuclear accelerator on his back. He could say, "I'm a Ghostbuster!" instead. The show never plays the line like he's saying something inaccurate when it's said and he never gets called on it.
+Anthony Barratt Dino Thunder, Dino Charge is the current series, well it's Dino Super Charge now because they've hit part two. I don't blame you for that mistake though they could've used something other than the word Dino for the current series.
I really agree with that but Edward just out of curiosity what is he saying that.
Hey Guys Explain to me what Q5 means..
Another Ghostbusters video by Phelous? The Sacrifice worked! I mean....what a lucky turn of events....yes....
Gin you're joking right? And if you weren't was it just a pig or something because sacrificing a human being is (do I even have to say it)
"Effective?" Were you going to say sacrificing a human is "effective"?
...Not that I would know either.
@@angbandsbane I'm calling the police
@@KhayJayArt well, they know the way. Tell em to pick up coffee on en route, no sugar this time.
Egon: Janine ghosts are attacking New York get me teenagers with attitude!
wouldn't you want a Peter Venkman statue in your house?
+SuperPrinnyDood
YES!
+SuperPrinnyDood Depends is the blurred face optional? I wonder if they did it because they originally planned for him to have died in the line of duty or something.
+Chris McWilliams
I'm gonna admit, the would be interestingly ballsy. As well as a very interesting plot point, then the original ghostbusters just quitting an finding new jobs. An would serve as a point, for Egon the close shop on the ghost buster business. That would be interesting im not gonna lie.
silentecho92able That would be the only reason I would think to have a statue like that around. Guess maybe someone chickened out.
It would also have added a new level in the episode where the rest of them got back together, especially if they blamed each other in some way or other.
Chris McWilliams
If i were, to have my way the pilot ep, would open in the first 5-10 minutes, (Like in Batman beyond were Bruce quits being batman) an Unknown powerful entity, confronted the Real Ghostbusters, in which nearly destroyed the city, by opening a gateway too the ghost world.
An Peter sacrificed himself too save everyone an got sucked into the ghost realm. After his death or disappearance, the team breaks down an disband, Leaving Egon an Janine too closeshop, the ghostbusters were slowly forgotten.
Timeskip too years later a new team comes in Egon or Janine having reservation due too what happens too peter, about the new team. but reluctantly trains them. An the face dark an more scarier ghost. Both new an old one. An risk an consequence are high.
That would make the show more centered, a more mature teen audience, then kids. making it more standout. Though it may alienate fans of the original series. but its just my idea.
Also im not gonna lie "The Ep "Deadliners" was the 1st ep i watched in this cartoon. an it gave me nightmares when i was a kid.
They really bet on the wrong horse who the last original ghostbuster standing would be.
I think the bit with Eduardo's insistence that they're "scientists" was basically him trying to establish himself as a person of respect since he feels that being a Ghostbuster is probably the most successful thing he's done that helps people since he got crap for it from his family by not becoming a cop like the rest of them.
I am going to try and explain the "Ghost of a Ghost" thing.
Slimer's body is ectoplasm that is formed around his spirit self. If the new evil ghost were to push the spirit part of Slimer out of the ectoplasm body then it could occupy that ectoplasm.
HOWEVER, the ectoplasm should reform around Slimer's spirit like it does when he gets smashed or passes thru a wall. Maybe the evil ghost has the ability to lock spirits out of whatever ethereal field that ectoplasm is formed from.
Working in higher dimensions, like lifting someone out of a maze and putting them in a cage overlooking it. They are not in the maze, but can see it.
+Rocket 1313 That's brilliant!
I remember there was an episode of The Real Ghostbusters where they fought the spirit of Dracula who was biting ghosts and drinking their ectoplasm. I think the ghosts who got bit lost a bunch of their powers, so your idea may have some precedent actually.
That doesn't mean it's not a stupid idea. It's just a stupid idea they could have done something interesting with. But that's probably not it.
It was the 90s, everything was EXTREME!
_DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!_
Everything was "extreme" in the 90's.
+ravager48 Extreme Dinosaurs, Extreme Ghostbusters, Extreme Justice, GI Joe Extreme...Actually that's about all I can remember, and one of those was a comic book.
+Herschal Shep
Don't forget that show on the Disney After Noon about Hewie Dewie and Lewie, Quack Pack I think it was called. It was the exact same thing, extreme everything!
Tyler R
Yeah. Admittedly though, I kinda liked that show. Hewie, Dewie, and Lewie had the most bland stereotypical personalities one can imagine, but the animation and plots were usually fun. But it's been years, might be nostalgia blindness.
Herschal Shep
Oh I won't judge, I liked a lot of crap when I was a kid, I didn't know better. But its not a good sign when even Disney was taking the whole 90s extreme thing seriously. Still better then the Mighty Duck show.
+Herschal Shep What's Extreme Justice?
Why didn't they spit-and-polish this series's premise into the newest movie?
Sony wasn't smart enough to think of that.
They did in afterlife
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario Not really. Other than it (seemingly) being centered around a new, younger team being mentored by one or more of the original GBs it's pretty dissimilar to Extreme. The series was about four, college age people, under Egon's tutelage, becoming Ghostbusters. Afterlife is about Egon's grandkids carrying on his legacy. Truthfully though I think they should've amalgamated the two. Depict Kylie Griffin as Egon's granddaughter and Roland, Garrett & Eduardo as a couple fellow, highschool outcasts she befriends.
@@alexlemonds2838 that's what they should've done but Afterlife is gunna suck like other modern sequels and I bet ya Ray Peter and Winston hardly feature in at all they will be given the same treatment as the OT characters in Disneys shitty Star Wars sequels
@@markpugh6808 it's classic SOny backtracking. female bustrs didn't work, so they're grasping at straws
: stranger things is popular, let's do that, but force in some weak shit about Egon's grandkids :
sony can eff off.
Definitely enjoyed the review, though might have liked to hear more opinions on the ghosts themselves and how inventive they got; I love the "Fear Itself" episode the most, where the ghostly embodiment of fear is itself terrified of everything, and the team actually feels sorry for it and doesn't trap it at all.
Eduardo taking so well to the ghostbuster life despite no academic interest in the supernatural makes sense, I mean, it's an exciting, heroic and mostly physical job rather than something he has to think too hard about.
+Jonathan Wojcik in a way that makes him winston
+Jonathan Wojcik Wasn't there one where the ghost was the house they were trapped in or something? I think there was also another where they went after the Jersey Devil.
+Chris McWilliams Right on both counts.
“What she’s legal”
How did this make it pass censorship...
just because
@@gracekim25 fair
90's were less strict
I'm pretty sure the show was syndicated, and if the original run of *The Real Ghostbusters* is any indication, syndicated shows don't have to deal with the network censors like other shows do.
Someone should have told the creators that Egon acts like he's 49 or 59 instead of like he's 39.
Kylie was the best of the new characters as she was the only one that wasn't essentially a reiteration of the originals.
But Sony seemed to love that French style of characters, they used it again in the Men in Black and Jumanji series'. I absolutely couldn't stand that Klasky-Csupo esque design fad of the 90s. But then again everyone just rips off Adventure Time now, so I don't know what's worse.
+Larry Bundy Jr I thought I was the only one who noticed that many cartoons now are copying Adventure Time's style (which I thought was started by The Misadventures of Flapjack). So now Anime doesn't have to feel like the only ones regurgitating the same art and animation style across the board and pretending it's being fresh.
+humanconvertile When its same productions that does certain cartoons/animes, that's not surprising and really since way back there's always been some show that's been popular and its many copycats (the scooby doo ones, smurf ones, etc).
+Larry Bundy Jr Actually I'm pretty sure the Jumanji series was done by the same studio that did Duckman. The character design quirks were VERY similar.
long live the 90s they have the best shows
+Larry Bundy Jr I'm not sure what you mean by "French" style of characters. Do you mean a style that was popular in France or showed up in a lot of French works?
('m asking because I'm French so maybe I don't realize it's a style that's specific to our culture :P)
I remember when I first saw "Deadliners" I had nightmares for a whole week. I really think that the designs of monsters in this episode were really great.
Damn, Phelous, you reminded me of that show, which led me to remember why I used to be into goth chicks.
I still AM!!
@@mitchfletcher2386 Are they still around? Even the emos are disappearing, and the punks got replaced by the SJWs.
@@handsomebrick I know. Dark days man.
I only remember one thing from this show. A ghost that grants wishes and I believe Kyile beating it by saying I wish you wouldn't grant my wish. That line and her level headed thought is why I remember her though nothing else.
So... the show treats being 39 as making you less physically able to fight ghosts than being paralyzed? I mean, Garret is in great shape and Egon is a bit flabby, but even so that's ridiculous.
Actually no i see ppl with no legs can swim betyer the smeone in there 39 die from a swimming in the news no kidding.
In regards to the Eduardo's scientist line.
There is maybe one or two times this is said where it's played more like the fact he isn't is part of the joke like when he accidentally shoots his proton stream after saying it.
The rest of the time it is straight up used as a strange qualifier for their actions like the original Peter line without any hint of irony about it.
In fact in the episode Back in the Saddle Peter mentions failing a few times in college didn't stop him from being a scientist and then he and Eduardo exchange a knowing smile.
If you don't want to believe me watch the scenes again where he says that for the context of how it's used.
+Phelan “Phelous” Porteous I think Eduardo just used that catchphrase to sound smart/cool. One of the supporting characters in the episode 'Mole People' actually refutes that statement.
+Phelan “Phelous” Porteous hay is this the real Phelouse? if so I was wondering if you had any plans to do a review of the godziller animated series or men in black, that were on round about the same time as EGB
+Phelan “Phelous” Porteous Unsatisfactory answer. ANALYSE IT MORE.
+Phelan “Phelous” Porteous Tara Strong provided her voice for MGSV TPP.
+Phelan „Phelous“ Porteous Please Review "FILMATIONS Ghostbusters" ^^
Egon is too old because he's 39?! I'm offended! I'm 39! God, I'm old *snif* (Only kidding, 39 is is NOT too old). Btw: i've never seen Extreme Ghostbusters, so it's nice to get to know more in this review. Keep 'em coming, Phelous!
He's lying through his teeth.
Happy 44th birthday!
Personally, I put the blame solely on the era it came out in. The late 90's to mid 2000's was sort of a transitional period for cartoons. If Extreme Ghostbusters came out in the late 2000's onward it could have been exactly what it should have been. Oh well, maybe another version will come out that will be awesome some day.
Or maybe they had to do with a rushed schedule.
Eduardo getting the clown zapped out of him but none of the other clowns being similarly affected can be chalked up to the fact that he'd only just been transformed, whereas the other clowns had been that way for far longer. Too much time had elapsed and they had passed the point of no return. Same with Roland; there hadn't been enough time to "digest" him
I'm very happy that you gave this show a fair shot as many fans of Real Ghostbusters tend to give the expectable "it's not what I watched therefore it's garbage" reaction. I'm not a super-fan of the show or anything but I do remember liking it as a kid and I think you hit the nail right on the head on its strengths and weaknesses. Maybe one day people will learn from the various incarnations of the show and make a new one that updates the concepts while still staying true to the spirit of the original and most importantly, will have as much attention for detail as the original.
And hopefully THIS time they'll allow the show to have the dead remain dead and have their ghosts be bloody ghosts!
Why didn't they give Garrett the circle traps? They could have strapped one to each wheel on his wheelchair.
probably because garret love extreme sports, and he's kinda reckless with his wheelchair too.
Yeah the amount of times his wheelchair tipped over would have damaged the traps severely.
That makes almost to much sense
Is it any less safe than him being thrown around while wearing a proton pack?
I totally thought this when I was younger: Garrett being the enthusiastic athlete, I pictured him zipping around through a crowd of ghosts with trap-hubcaps, sucking every entity up as he does a flashy 360 spin or something else "extreme".
The main thought was, with all the tech and different Ectos (es?) that existed since TRGB, couldn't Garrett get some awesome enhancements to his chair? I know they wanted to emphasize the idea that someone in a wheelchair didn't need a bunch of additional assistance to succeed with the rest, but I still would've liked to see some good use of new equipment, especially being in a chair with his character traits. Then again, it would've created even easier outs and wrap-ups in plot solutions, as he would've became too op.
I was surprised to find out that Jim Cummings sings the Extreme Ghostbusters theme song!
He also sang in Anastasia and the lion king as Rasputin and scar respectively.
jack brearley Well yeah, but this is a TV THEME SONG TO A SHOW HE NEVER VOICED A CHARACTER ON!!!!
+Hewylewis When you can predict it the least, that's when Jim Cummings does the voice. The man always finds work, and we love every bit of it.
+Hewylewis
To be fair, I am not fully sure there is anything Jim Cummings can't do. But yeah, strange to have such a great voice talent sing a song to a show he was never in.
+Hewylewis Wait...what?
Id rather see a movie about this show rather than the one thats gonna come soon
Wow, a ghost of a ghost... seriously....
+Natalie Kirk Guess Peter really did make him die all over again.
+Natalie Kirk like that "Robot Chicken" bit where the ghost falls down the stairs and becomes a ghost again ("this is unprecedented" ). That or "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" where the ghost kept getting killed by cell phone signals and coming back as the ghost of the ghost or the ghost of the ghost of the ghost or whatever. :)
+Natalie Kirk i aways thaughr they wern't truely ghosts more creatures created via chaos.
+Gerbil13 I agree, they call them ghost but they're more like interdiminsional entities
I just recalled the bit on "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" where the ghost kept getting killed by cellphone signals and kept coming back.
"I'm the ghost of the ghost who...." *pop*
Happened like half a dozen times and was funny every time. :)
I think one of my favorite things about this series that other people disliked was that Jim Cummings sang the theme.
18:57 Winston's pouting face is magnificent.
Funny how Egon couldn’t bust ghosts at 39 in this show but now they’re all busting in their 70s in the movies
My God, _that_ smash cut to a face palm still absolutely kills me half a decade later. A masterwork of comedic editing.
I believe Eduardo is a scientist. After all, he was brought in by Saddler to study the plagas.
+angbandsbane Ha!
geez, don't you see Eduardo keep saying "I'm a scientist" as a SACRASM.
I found out recently through his Twitter account that the theme song for this show was performed by Jim Cummings (voice of Darkwing Duck).
12:23 Anyone else notice how his voice goes from sounding like Egon to sounding like the Brain?
Eduardo looks older than Egon.
I always figured Eduardo was a stoner and it caused early aging
I bet everyone prefers Extreme Ghostbusters instead of the new movie right about now.
Yeah because the characters have personalities in Extreme Ghostbusters
Similar to the new Ghostbusters :D
Aidan Campbell Insinuating that the 2016 Ghostbusters have any shred of character outside of sterotypes is insulting to good character writing.
Maybe for you :D
same here
Thanks for covering this series.
I was 15 when this premiered and watched it every morning before school. I was a Ghostbusters fanatic back in the 80s and early 90s so I loved it. No it wasn’t as good as those first seasons of TRG, but it was certainly fun especially to someone just getting in to horror movies and spotting all the movies they borrowed from for their monsters of the week.
Dave Couliers Venkman still sounds like when an immature kids tries to imitate someone he doesn't like, or thinks is stupid. Really reeks of the that level of exaggerated oafishness. Whether or not that was intentional is beyond me, given the guy is neither very funny or that good of a voice actor (see his take on Felix the Cat for further reference) Really makes it hard to appreciate even the better written lines. It really wouldn't be so hard to get over, except for the fact that every other human character at least talks like a normal person.
Is there really nobody in the studio at the time who heard this?
+BlackBeWhite2k7 To be fair though, Coulier did sound a lot more like Bill Murray than Lorenzo Music did, but Music's voice was always more fun to listen to.
Chris C.
I kinda don't hear it, to be honest...but that's probably because Bill's best humor is normally very laid back and dry in it's delivery, much like Lorenzo Music's.
Coulier's always sounds like he's trying way to hard to get a laugh out of really young children, which feels even more out of place given the tone Extreme Ghost-busters was going for.
BlackBeWhite2k7 Working with the Olsen Twins all those years must have really gotten to him. lol
Yeah, he makes it SO HARD to give praise. When grabbing the Peter lines I thought were better written his delivery of them still pretty much drains the charm out of them.
Phelan Porteous
It honestly wouldn't feel out of place to have Venkman regularly spout "Uh-Oh, Spaghetti Os!" with Coulier's performance
Winston is the perfect foil to the rest of the GBs because he could explain the technobabble of the other members. He was also key in providing a simple, effective solution when the others were overanalyzing the situation. I've heard folks call him the least of the members and I believe they're a bunch of idiots because they don't look into his character enough. I think it's pretty plain when watching the first two film's.
AWW YEAH!
I've been wanting Phelous to review Extreme Ghostbusters, AND IT REALLY HAPPENED! YES!!!
The 90's were a weird time.
yung venuz At least they were less political correct and guilt shaming than now.
I think of it as the manboy decade. Think about it, it makes a ton of sense.
The 90s were a golden age for cartoons and video games.
I really enjoyed this show when I saw it as a kid, but unfortunately it's just as you said: It had a lot of potential that was never entirely reached.
Nice and thorough retrospective. A lot of us "Real" collectors were saddened by the fact that the follow-up series never got an official release, thus making our collections incomplete. But at least Hulu has the whole show now in their catalog.
I'm fairly certain the line of 'I am thirty-nine' was a nod to Jack Benny, who was famous for saying that on the air and stage when anyone remarked about his age, from 1940 to 1974. He had 41 39th Birthday celebrations.
I dunno, I think the "I'm a scientist" catchphrase works if you look at it as Eduardo acting like a bit of a poser, rather than being serious about it.
Like he assumes that BECAUSE he's a Ghostbuster, that automatically makes him a scientist. It seems in-character for a dumb college kid whose either a little to full of themself, or not too bright. Or both.
That said, I haven't actually seen the show proper. So for all I know, this wasn't how it came across in the series.
It's wasn't really funny
I saw the series new, and being about 8 I just thought "Hell Yeah!" XD.
When rewatching years later assumed basically that it was Eduardo being self-important, though his attempts to bumble through exams in some episodes with sophistic gibberish he can't pronounce - with Kylie typically catching him out - demonstrates the dim element.
He got plenty of moments to offset it by being brave or selfless though, most being connected to Kylie in some way.
In many ways he's the Beast Boy of the series.
Oh yeah, never heard of Tara Strong. Only one of the most prolific female voice actors. Seriously, though, Tara is the definition of awesome
Yes. A bit like Scott McNeil; having all the characters she's voiced in one scene would be hilarious.
@@jimtaylor294 if any two people could voice an entire show by themselves it’d be Tara and Scott
Hey, Eduardo is Randy from Godzilla: The Series and Luis from Resident Evil 4!
Come to think of it, Eduardo is pretty much the same character as Randy from GTS. Both being jerk-with-a-heart-of-gold college age slackers with an on/off relationship with one of the main female characters (IE: Kylie in XGB and Monique in GTS). They also spoke gratitious Spanish since both were of Central/South American descent (Though, since Randy is Brazilian, he should be speaking Portuguese, not Spanish).
No wonder I can't stand him. fuck Luis and fuck that admittedly decent attempt to salvage that shitty godzilla movie. and fuck Randy.
Also Johnny Rico from Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles.
I mean, to be fair to Kylie, I'm from the south and my southern accent is way more pronounced at some times and basically nonexistent at others
I kinda think originally, Garrett was supposed to call Eduardo a pansy, but that got censored at the last minute, hence the daisy line not making sense.
+StarDigian yes but then the how about you go and become a florist , which make sense if you call someone a wuss, would sound off
+StarDigian no I didn't know pansy is a flower, my bad
He did use the word “pansy” in “Fear Itself”.
That was edited out when it was aired in the UK because it’s considered a homophobic slur.
Xxxtreme Ghostbusters is the best one yet. ;)
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Agree!
What was your favorite part?
@@nightcrestevergreen7703 the Flip City Montage 😂😳
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This was my favorite cartoon in my childhood :) I really liked the monster designs.
I really love Kylie Griffin, besides, she has my last name! I would love to see an episode where she interacts with the spirit Samhain!
I'm surprised the one named Roll-and wasn't the one in the wheelchair...
if egon was in his 60's it would make sense
to have him less active
+Rory Lumley Unless chasing around ghost and traveling between dimensions has taken a toll on his body, even psychic damage from well traveling into the storage unit. Least that is my head cannon for why he is less active.
Canon* is the accepted/official lore of a story.
Cannons are ballistic artillery.
This series actually introduced me to Ghostbusters plus it kept me up at night especially the clowns leprechaun and grendel thing at my window at night
I use to sneakily get up really bloody early to watch this when I was younger. I still love it honestly ( Kylie is my favorite character )
10:17 Ahhhhh, thank you, zone
Well that explains why twilight sparkle in mlp Equestria girls: Friendship Games owned an EKG Meter
I think many of the issues you mentioned might have been worked out if the show had gotten more than 40 episodes. Had it gotten another season or two, I'm sure that the team would've gone up against more classic baddies from RGB like Samhain. As for the question of why Eduardo stuck around on the team despite his apathy towards the paranormal, I like to believe that he DID plan to leave after the pilot, but changed his tune after seeing the check from the team's first "regular" bust.
Great review....I definitely remember the darker aspects of the show as a kid. The "Hellraiser" one really was dark and it set the tone in the first minute.
Extreme is exactly what the reboot should have been.
This should have been the basis for the 2016 Ghostbusters movie imo.
+James007HungerZone
I know. I have nothing against having one or two female characters, that's fair. I would prefer an honest to god sequel with the REAL GHOSTBUSTERS, but if you absolutely must, then do that. Having it all female just feels kinda pointless, that's all. Its hardly a big complaint for me, my biggest issue is, its happening. I hate most remakes, and seeing how poor Harold Ramis isn't even alive, it just doesn't feel right. And the fact the entire cast is cameoing through out the whole damn movie pisses me off more! MAKE THEM THE ORIGINAL CHARACTERS IF YOU HAVE THEM! Fuck! Hell, if they wanted to do an all female cast, why not just bring back Annie Potts for a main role? I would love that. But no, cameo. Sorry, the subject of the remake just pisses me off.
The thing that pisses me off about the remake is the fact that, besides Dan Ackroyd, non of the original stars wanted to make a true sequel, but they are all okay with making cameos in this.
James007HungerZone
Don't get me started on Bill Murray. I love the guy, but what an asshole thing to do. GB3 didn't get made simply because of him, and the moment they reboot it, he shows up. What utter bullshit! Still one of my favorite comedic actors, but still.
Its no surprise Chevy Chase supposedly kicked his ass backstage when they were SNL co stars.
*****
Ugh, I forgot that. Like I said, I still think he is a great comedian, but he can be a real asshole sometimes.
Thanks for reviewing this Phelous I was a big fan of Extreme Ghostbusters growing up and I'm glad you took a look at and give your fair opinion on it
They were really like "oh, you want your dog back? THEN PERISH!"
An interesting idea brought up in one of the recent IDW ghost buster comic cross over between the real Ghost busters and IDW ghost busters is that not only are the Real ghost busters and IDW are set in different universes but so are the 88 Ghost Buster's and Extreme, it's even implied that Extrame Ghost busters is a different universe all together than Real. Although how that works when Extreme and Real do share some ( it's not much ) but some conterunity. So maybe in the Extreme verse the Real ghost busters had less of an impact, perhaps after Gozar the ghosts didn't appear as much as in the real series. But that's just a guess on my part
I liked how when Maurice LeMarche is saying "I'm a has-been", he winds up sounding more like Brain for a second.
That part though did really push the attitudes the writers must have thought the kids these days had. Some idea that nobody over the age of 25 or so can do anything physical. Egon really should have been there more often during the cases, gradually showing up less and less as the team got more competent and better understood what they were doing.
Also, I think with the Killjoys/Clown monsters, they established that they turned Eduardo into one of them to replace the one they captured. Seemed to imply that the 4 initial ones were part of a starting gang of sorts that had died and become ghosts, whereas Eduardo wasn't dead and it was akin to him being possessed in a manner similar to Kylie in the first two episodes. Though it does raise the question as to why the other people didn't return. Maybe because the final monster at the end was like a hive-mind and you have to destroy it? I mean Roland came out of nowhere at the end.
Being born in the 90s and only allowed a minimal amount of tv when I was younger, this was actually my very first exposure to Ghostbusters and it made me want to be a ghostbuster. Watching the ghostbusters movie for the first time, I was disinterested somewhat in seeing the egon, ray, peter, and winston and not the extreme team.
But now I could appreciate both, but this series will always have a special place in my heart.
And wow, is that Raimundo's voice who plays the rebel of the group? I hear it sometimes so if it's not, whoops...and Fry...sure could make pet sounds. Alfonso I never realized, despite being a huge Fresh Prince fan and a contemporary show I would watch it but given how he was mostly passed over, I guess it is forgivable. Of course Tara is a walking library of voices, you never could tell. But omg, it's Tino!!! :D that one surprised me most of all as it is among my favorite sounding voices. Well, later days.
I actually really like Eduardo's scientist catch phrase, especially since it's so obviously not true. It tells something about his character that he'd keep emphasizing it constantly.
"Are you calling me a daisy?" Translation: "Are you calling me gay?"
Why is Gary in a wheelchair?
Concerning why Garret is in a wheelchair it was revealed in the episode that had the team dealing with a evil leprechaun who supposedly sealed away Garret's good luck and skills in leadership, strategy, and use with the proton pack that he was originally the star player of the basketball team at the university him, Eduardo, Roland, and Kylie went to but he was later caught in a car accident that resulted in the other driver getting killed but Garret survived but at the cost of being paralyzed in both of his legs with 0% chance of being able to walk again and for a while Garret carried the guilt with him along with a belief that being wheelchair-bound will result in him losing his ability to do sports along with him losing his ability to function in society but he later forgave himself along with learning how to play sports and function in society while wheelchair bound he revealed this to Egon during a heart-to-heart with his mentor who gave some useful advice that gave Garret his confidence back which allowed him to save the rest of the team from the evil leprechaun.
When he keeps saying “I'm a scientist.” they should have one of the characters said “Just because you're a Ghostbuster, doesn't make you- Oh whatever, forget it.” or something along those lines.
I remember the first time I caught an episode of extreme ghostbusters, I asked myself why Ray was in a wheelchair
I never really got a chance to see this show, but it seems very similar to the MIB cartoon from around the same period. That show had pretty good plots, humor, and gruesome alien designs.
"you're dead!"
"aw! again?!"
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Yeah Billy West was pretty involved in this series, huh?
I was born in 89, so I missed out on the original cartoon, but I do recall seeing this on television a few times but never really sat down and really watched it. Shame, this actually looks pretty fun. Gotta say, I really like that remix of the theme.
So kind of egon to wake up one morning before 1997 and say to himself, "i should really take this privately owned building where i live and work completely alone, and make it one hundred percent ADA accessible. Just in case."
Yeah, Eduardo took the class for an easy A and doesn't believe in the beginning. It seems you don't like that. It also seems you've forgotten Winston Zeddmore's character arc.
Yeah but Winston stayed because well he needs a living. When Eduardo could hypothetically drop out and take a different class
38:42 wrong. in that episode, after Eduardo had turned into normal and Roland had come back, Garrett commented:"well, Roland can't be the only nudist in here. let's find the others." they went to look for rest of the victims in the clownhouse and the episode ended.
So there still a reverse button?
"" let's find the others." they went to look for rest of the victims". For what exactly they went to look for the rest nudists? heh
This persn has stone age or just dmb.
This show would always air in a time slot that would take place halfway into my morning, so every morning, between September and December of that year, I would only be able to watch the first HALF of each episode, unless I was sick or there was a snow day. Given my age at the time, the grade I was in, and the intelligence level of my teachers, I argue to this day, as an adult, knowing what I learned at the time, and after rewatching this show 30 years later that I would’ve gotten more useful life education if i actually skipped class and watched this show instead
I can more than appreciate your candid review that both complements this series and simultaneously tears it down. 😁👍🏻