Ford Electronic Throttle Body Failures
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In this video I show what fails on a Ford Electronic Throttle Body and how they are built. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Great video - concise, informative and well presented. This sets the standard for for DIY auto repair videos...
I installed a new battery on 2006 Ford 500 and then had P2111 / P2104 codes. I cleaned the throttle body, erased codes, disconnected battery, etc, etc. but kept getting the same codes and locked in "limp mode". I was just about to buy a new throttle body, but first decided to adjust the closed position stop after watching your video. Mine is a spring loaded stop screw/pin - slightly different from the one shown in your video. The head is a plastic hex that protrudes on the outside of the housing. I backed the stop out about 3/4 turn and this corrected the issue. Car is running better than it has in months. I assume this adjustment may be compensating for a weak return spring, but it got me going for now. Great video! Much appreciated.
Has this worked for anyone else?
Tried this on my CVPI.. snapped the plastic bolt in half. Absolutely no idea why Ford used the strongest Loctite available on a plastic bolt.
My 2010 Ford escape hybrid was pulling code p2112 and I got it checked out. The mechanic said it was the electronics in the throttle body just like you said! Your videos are so useful thank you!
I just had mine fail... the butterfly valve would not close like it should... would stay open... I found a Dorman replacement TB at O'Reilly auto parts for $119(about$130 with tax here) and just swapped the whole thing... truck idles better than before, everything is fine now... Just glad I didn't opt to replace the cap piece like you suggested... I took the old TB apart after swapping it...2 bolt/screws snapped halfway out, one twisted, and one came out fine... would have been a nightmare getting those screws out... depending on how much the cap costs, might be more worthwhile to just replace the whole thing...
I just received a recall notice for my 2010 Ford Fusion, so I was curious about the issue. Your explanation was really informative. Thank you.
I explain it better here- Ford Escape & Fusion RECALL 13N03 13B17 Latest Info
Thanks for the explanation! My wife's 2010 Fusion had the ETB die this morning. Thankfully she was right near a dealership that was able to replace it under the extended warranty at no cost to us, otherwise I'd be looking into replacing the cover with the sensor.
It happens to my 2011 Escape also. Seems to happen when it's wet. From rain or washing it sometime makes it start happening. Sometimes it runs right for a month without happening.
You know those DC motors working their butts off going back and forth for constant and variable throttle position. Sure would take precise control to run those motors like that. The trouble they go thru just to eliminate a cable... smh.
Very detailed bideo great job! Do you think the failure of and ETB would cause jerking under hard acceleration along with horrible fuel mileage and the odor of gas?
Just had an issue with my car going into limp mode. Same codes previously discussed. Replaced with a new one. Opened the old one and found the first five teeth had been worn almost flat on the half gear that connects to the throttle valve which made for inconsistent idle. 20 minutes to replace. Thanks for the videos.
hi thank a lot for the explanation about the how the throttle body work on my dad´s truck, now we wil repair as soon we get that spare part, thank you very much :D
Thanks for your vids. Helped me out a lot with my 07 Explorer 4.6 3v Orange Ironman Edition 225k. Thought I was having TPS issues with random stalls at stops or at highway speed as soon as you let off the pedal. I pushed the throttle plate all the way to closed and it stuck close. Removed and cleaned throttle body and no issues at all with the originalTPS. Sticking Throttle Plate essentially blocks all air intake then you stall have to pull over and restart engine which resets throttle plate. Hard to chase down randomness. No codes. Gummed Up Throttle plate. Try pushing yours closed and see if it sticks if u have random things happening. Good luck
Hi partner thanks for all the info you give it has helped me more than anything i want your opinion on the after market throttle body unit some look alot like mine on my 2005 explorer 4x4 thanks again I've rebuilt my entire explorer from your video's keep it up
Thank you so much for all you information!!I was wondering if I can just change the electronic part on the throttle body but I didn't know where to find the answers but I did answer that for me so I thank you so much
Fantastic vid. Thank you for sharing! Internals look so simple once someone else takes it apart :)
Question about the motor. I understand TBs do a full sweep when you turn car off to align itself. Is this correct? I hear a very loud non stop buzz coming from the TB when the key is set to ACC (before starting car). What is causing this buzzing?!!!... when cleaning the TB, do you suggest NOT forcing it open against motor's resistance to clean around the butterfly plate? Thanks!
great video... but how do I know which one was rebuilt or fixed or not and where to find one?
Thanks buddy. Happened to me today on the highway. Complete loss of power at 100 kmph, coupled with a heavy gearbox shift, probably to neutral. Was on cruise control. The orange wrench came on but no MIL. Stopped at the shoulder on emergency, no throttle response. Put gear in P then back to drive, nothing.
After a quick engine off/on cycle, MIL was on but power is back. Checked the OBD back home and it said P2104 and P2111, throttle body fault and throttle stuck open respectively. I don’t think I have experienced and throttle wide open condition during the fault, and therefore suspect a malfunctioning TPS. Will order a full body and replace, will follow the throttle relearning procedures and update on what happens.
Thank you for the great videos. Keep ‘em coming buddy.
Did that fixed the issue?
No it didn’t. The problem persisted after changing the throttle body. I randomly caught a misfire at cylinder 3 a couple of times while checking the faults after the failure occurred. So I decided to work on plugs then the coil. The problem was cured after the coil change.
My hypothesis, a misfire either calls for torque compensation by increasing throttle flow and a downshift (hence the abrupt shifts). While at high torque situations this might saturate the throttle position to wide open and cause the fault.
OR -> the misfire causes a weird back emf to the circuitry and that triggers a false signal, allowing the ecu to raise a false flag.
@@omarbedair am facing the exact same problem, did you get any obd codes for the misfires? I just replaced the throttle body, replaced all of the coils and plugs, got the pcm reprogrammed,as at one point the truck had problems running the fuel pump, and i replaced the accelerator pedal with a good known working one and am back to square one. Next i guess i'll double check my plugs and coils and clean the old throttle body. Last thing i might try is replacing the pcm.
@@miguelcalderon3702 sorry to hear that. Guess I had a little bit better luck. Yes I got OBD’s for cyl 3 misfire randomly a couple of times, wasn’t consistent. That led me to change the plugs / coil.
If this is the case with you, despite chAnging the plugs and coils, you might be facing misfire due to other issues (e.g. coolant leakage into a cylinder). Is your coolant level going down for any reason ?
The problem could also not be related to misfire. This is a weird issue and u definitely need luck on ur side.
@@omarbedair Thank you for letting me know that it actually gave you a code and for the information you posted. I'll keep on checking it and if I find a solution ill post it here as it might help somebody else down the road if not i'll just sell the truck and be done with it.
@FordTechMakuloco - do you recommend changing out the whole throttle body, even though i'm not seeing any signs of failure as of yet ?
hey, I just recently came across ur channel and great info! I had a question though. I have a 2011 f150 ecoboost 3.5l and today I was gonna check my throttle body to see if it needed cleaned and saw that it wasn't completely closed bc I could see a line of carbon and stuff where it is suppose to close. so when I push the top of the throttle and hold it, it will close but when I let go it just goes back to where it was. so I was wondering if u knew what is causing it to not close completely. I don't have any check engine lights on or anything. thanks!
Question : I seem to have a problem with my throttle body , after I cleaned it I have some really funky revs, after some troubleshooting it seems that my flap isn't opening , even at 3K revs the throttle is some how closed, I tested the motor and it seems to work just fine, how can I test whether or not the throttle motor is receiving the correct voltage ?
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Wow you would make a wonderful teacher. We use cam gears on instruments at the refinery where I work
Thank you. Very helpful video(s) TB body replaced and since no issue.
thanks for the info....just so i'm clear..(I'm thinking of a 2013 Taurus and am worried..) - Is your solution to replace the plastic side housing that holds that sensor? And if so...what aftermarket one do you reccomend? Also..is Ford aware of this? Is there an associated recall to your knowledge? Thanks.
thanks sir
Excellent video.
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I have a 2004 f150 4.6 v8 is it true it could have a 2005 engine in it IAC valve it don't have and since a 2005 engine don't have it is it possible that my 2004 got that engine
Could my etb cause my truck to lose electrical power . i turn the key forward (not enough to turn over the engine) and my dash lights come on go out instantly and i can hear the etb making a horid clicking sound.
Done changed the plugs and checked all coils and still have a rough idle and that little surge so I guess I'll be going with the BBK 80mm throttle body thanks
Same issue at mine. Did this solve the rough idle?
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Hi, I have a 2011 Ford explorer, last week it went limp and lost power while on the highway, wrench light came on. We pulled over, tried to start it back up but it would just turn off right away. I had it towed to the Ford dealership and we were told we need a new engine because engine is knocking. Funny how when we turned it back on while on the side of the road, the engine wasn't knocking. Do you think it's the engine??
what is the name of that part.if im going to look for it online the throttle body sensor? im having a problem with my freestyle i believe that's what's causing it
Is it ok to put silicone grease or special grease on the plastic gears? WIll that prevent them from wearing out?
What’s a bigger throttle body you’d recommend?
sorry for dumb question, but does this throttle body part include throttle position sensor? I'm googling for a good hours and I cannot find TPS as a separate part. I started to think, this electronic module you've pointed out to fail a lot is the TPS itself? Thanks.
Hey, love the videos. It has also helped me a bunch during the ownership of my vehicles.
Simply a suggestion, apparently there is a re-occuring clicking sound happening with the throttle body of many F-150, that can simply be resolved by cleaning. The flap appears to snag the dirt build-up in the throttle body.
I think it could be video worthy, as there is some mis-information out there...
Do you know where I can find the remanufactured tps without replacing the whole throttle body? Been having some acceleration limp mode issues on my 2013 F150 EcoBoost that is out of warranty. have replaced spark plugs and boots and cleaned throttle body and still having the issue. Any help would be appreciated.
I see that your valve body is very clean and I know how important it is to keep it clean. Do you have video about cleaning it?
Thank you for fast response on Sunday!!!
No problem just so happen to be catching up this morning.
So i have be same issue took the throttle body apart and all the components look fine, I took that piece off but cannot figure out where to get that piece or what it's called?
How often should I change the TPS/ throttle body as a preventive maintenance?
What is the part number for the throttle body control module that goes on the side of the TB. Have only seen the whole TB sold online or at the local Ford dealer for around $380+ Could you point me in the right direction?
Will an OBII scanner read yellow wrench codes. I have an 09 Mercury Mariner Hybrid that the wrench light has started to pop up.
Where would someone be able to buy that piece with the chip in it? I’ve only been finding the whole throttle body assemblies.
Does it matter what brand you go with ? I bought dorman brand from oreillys
2016 Ford F150 Screw, experiencing issues that others have described which lead to replacing their ETB. Several NHTSA safety complaints, SSS, and TSB's have been issued and a few hits on Customer Satisfaction Programs being issued. All that a dealership is giving me the runaround because I'm 244 miles out of my 36k warranty. Any suggestions?
Hey, I replaced the throttle body assembly on my 2007 f150 5.4L and it made the truck run worse... The truck has been showing a consistent code for the throttle body problems along with a code P2135: THROTTLE PEDAL POSITION SENSOR A/B CORRELATION!... have you had any experience in this area?
I noticed that I have an oil leak upon further review and the source as to where it is coming from is the throttle body I'm just guessing that all I half to do is take it off and clean it and change out the gasket can you give me your input.
is the thing on the side the tps sensor the thing with the wire plug or what im confused just bought a 05 freestyle and when i hit the gas it does pretty much nothing bought a tps sensor but its noting like whats on the side of my throttle body
I have a Ford Escape 2010 it started acting like a work when the check engine and wrench light came on all I did I cleaned it and it worked again the car is in Mexico I couldn’t find the part in Mexico I’m back in America piece of cake so when I go back gonna install new one it came with the kit and got the mag sensor too great video
I'm having to replace the throttle body in my 2005 Ford Freestyle - apparently a notoriously defective part. I can purchase a remanufactured part under $200. Would you recommend these and what is the benefit with a cold weather package? I live in Wisconsin.
Anyone know if this can cause false TPS errors? Didn't think they'd use a chip for that part. Great troubleshooting info.
I've got a 2001 Ford Taurus SES With a Yellow Wrench light on that came on around the same time as the Check Engine light came on and now it's also leaking oil so I hooked it up to the scanner and its throwing a P0442 Code which is an Evap. Emissions Code plus I've noticed when I shift from park to drive my car is making a huge clunk noise or sound from somewhere under the hood and when I start the car and shift into drive and go to drive the car rattles or vibrates really bad any idea of what this could be FordTechMakuloco?
I'm Having issues on a 2004 explorer, Electronic throttle light comes on and starts to cut out, this seems to be the answer we'll check it out.
Will this cause no power as you keep pushing the pedal until finally, it downshifts and you speed up?
I have a 2013 ford Taurus and when I'm driving not all the time but sometimes the rmp goes to 0 and I cant press on the gas but the power stays on tot he car and I have to coast to the side of the road and when I crank to start to car it hesitates like it doesn't want to start. It has been at ford dealership and they say they cant find what it is that's wrong with my car. Could it be the fuel pump injector or the throttle body? and if the throttle body would it have to be programmed ?
I have a ford Taurus 2013 with about 45k miles on it. I was told my throttle needs to be replace because the actuator failed on the testing. Can I replace the actuator without replacing the throttle entirely? They are wanting to charge around $800 to do it and extended warranty through ford only covers it if the sensors fail. I am not sure if this is an ETB problem or what. Do you have any opinions? Thanks
i got a 2008 f150 5.4 when its in park the throttle works fine but when i put it in gear sometimes it stalls and the throttle doesnt work what can cause?
Can you explain what's the numbers mean I'm wanting to buy a replacement and don't want to buy the wrong one as mines an auto
My 2004 F150 5.4 intermittently hesitates at 1/4 throttle any idea what this could be? Thanks
I need help, i have a ford focus ses 2011. And i need to replace the whole throttle body. My question is. Do i need to calibrate the new throttle body? Or just replace it and star the engine? I'm doing this because mi tps is giving problems
Could this be responsible for a code P-0299 Turbo Underboost? I have a brand new 2017 in service for two weeks with a P-0299 code and they can't figure out what's wrong with it.
i have a 2007 front wheel drive 3.0 v6 and the throttle body keeps failing even after the new one,it looses power have to turn off then back on and your good to go,not sure why its doing it.
Wondering if I just make it a pull wire ,will it work?
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how can i program a throttle body of a mustang gt 06
I noticed mine starting to fail with the P2112 code during the recent Arctic-like temps of -20 C temps. When the temp went back up to -1 on Saturday I didn't get the dreaded failure.
Wondering if yours would go into limp mode? Mine is doing the same thing but not leaving a code. Just brings up the wrench maintenance light. Restart the car and everything goes away
@@nikkicartee879 Mine when into limp mode almost got killed....fucking ford. Had to replace TB and no more issues
@@SFBay69 same here, F-150 went into limp mode on the Interstate when about to take off ramp to mix master. Nearly rear-ended then nearly again when it started working and had to reenter traffic. Code P2112 did get set
2012 Ford Mustang v6 3.7 Bbk 73mm throttle body but my car keeps saying forced closed an like when I have the car off it works fine but when turn car on the throttle plate stays stuck closed please help me with this
Does this also deal with the p02105 and 1674 ford mustang gt car just shuts off and takes 20 mins to restart
Hello FordTecdh, I've ford explorer limited 2013, last week while driving on highway the speed has been decreased suddenly and fuel pedal did not respond anymore, the battery sign has pumped up (Check charging system, yellow wrench, and check oil). I stopped the engine and starteed again the problem was gone, but after driving couple of meters it came back again. I've replaced the battery and its terminals, but it didn't resolve the problem at all. The car has been scanned and got these codes P0620 (Generator control circuit), and P2111 (Throttle Actuator Control system-stuck open). Please advise what should i do?
I have a 2012 Lincoln MKT 3.5 boost = I was at a red light my foot was on the brake the cat started to take off I had to put both feet on the pedal and put it in neutral it happened twice.= any idea
2013 ford edge with 62k shutoff on the freeway twice. lost steering power, brake assist, and eng oil pressure with eng over temp lights. serv advance trac also came one with wrench. would i need a new TB?
+Cruz Deuce Anytime the vehicle shuts down the lights on the cluster will reset. I would be leaning towards a new throttle body yes. Best to get the codes read first though by a scan tool than can query all modules involved.
Would this cause the RPM`s to fluctuate at 500 RPM when the engine is hot if it goes bad
You ever have this issue
Only on cold or somewhat cold starts the car idles down into limp mode. Wrench light comes on.
Turn the car off then back on and everything is fine. It doesn't leave a code during limp mode or apon restart. Nothing to go off of.
I've come to the conclusion that it's either the pedal assembly or throttlebody.
But wondering your thoughts. Car is a 2006 fusion with a 2.3
Ford Taurus spanner on running time and the vehicle cut off what was the reason for that ......?
Could a failing throttle body cause or be related to P00C6 or P0087 codes
Where can I get replacement for those gears? it's all worn out. Thanks
2010 Ford Escape New throttle body part was $100 Woodhouse Ford Blair Nebraska .Ford extended the warranty on this part to 10 years or 150,000 miles ,I changed it out myself...Extremely important part so that your FORD doesn't stop in the Middle of the Freeway
My 2011 ford explorer wrench and check engine light came on engine was vibrating stop turn off engine restart. Wrench light went off but check engine stayed on.
Can you test this
why does my 10 ford fusion make a noise on the sensor?
love it!
I just picked up a 2008 ford focus se that was in a front end crash for 500 bucks anyways I took it home today and I got Throttle Actuator Control System - Stuck Closed this code po638 from my scan took would this fix my problem?
my ford fiesta is not closing that air plate is this normal and its not exceeding 2.5k rpm
you mention that they may soon sell just the plastic cover with the chip, I have a 2012 edge and the dealership is wanting 780 for the repair. If I can find that specific part which seems to be the failing part I'd rather do it myself as its such a simple fix.
is it possible for that DC motor to go bad and cause DTCs?
I have this car and the accelration is giving me problems while im driving sometimes it lose acceleration while I'm driving then picks back up
Ok I'm having a problem with this I think my truck takes off fine but every now and then when speeding up it's like I just let off the gas for just a sec and then will pick right back up any suggestions?
Brandon Johns Very common for bad throttle bodies to have a surge feeling when going bad yes but can also be a misfire but that would be more a jerking feeling.
what could be the potential cause of defect if the idle RPM is high?
Also, the throttle adjusting screw [TAS] has some sort of resin on it. For how long is the curing done on it?
The stop screw has Loctite on it and is set from the factory and is not to be touched. Idle rpm high on what vehicle? Usually this is from a vacuum leak.
What is the name for the plastic cover of the throttle body. Trying to google just that part. I've had the same issue as some of the guys down below and want to change out the cover before I have to drop $600 just to change out the throttle body. If you know where I could get one and what it's called that would be awesome. Thanks man
What’s ‘that part’ called ?
Where is the Throttle Actuator Control Module Processor Located on a 2008 F250 5.4L? Inside the throttle body, or is it integrated into the PCM? I am getting code P2107 and P2110, and it's incredible easy to misdiagnose this issue. I don't want to recommend to my customer that he replaces the throttle body without being absolutely certain.
Thanks for you video, very informative. You say that the electronics assembly is available. Two questions. Where can you get it; aftermarket or dealer only part? What is it called. I looked a an item called a TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) at AutoZone and it wasn't anything like what is in the video.
I would like to know the same exact thing
Why hasn't there been an answer to these questions yet?
I went to three places and finally found it. It's called a throttle position sensor
The part he's holding is called a ETB ( Electronic throttle body)
In this video, that's the throttle plate motor. It's on the opposite side of the TPS
There is a chip available that does exactly what is required for this design. That is an ordinary permanent magnet on the end of the shaft. The chip detects through hall effect sensors the angle of the field with relation to the chip. The unfortunate thing about hall effect devices is because of the heavy doping they have a higher failure rate than other IC's.
Hi Randy greetings brother! 6 years later, what is the name of the chip bro?
@@Alfredorubiocubillan Magnetic Rotary Encoder
So what problem does this cause, that has become reason of concern?
Just wondering after replace throttle body and fit second hand in , any reset or programming required ?
No,no need.
I’m having a major issue with my 2010 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor . When I turn the key over when everything is connected, my fuel pump will not kick in and my throttle body clicks and the car won’t start. If I unplug the throttle body and turn the key, the fuel pump kicks on and the car starts but obviously no acceleration. If I plug the throttle body back in while it’s running, still no acceleration. I’ve replaced the throttle body, ecm and the entire gas pedal assembly but I’m getting the same results. Does anybody have any ideas on what I should do next?
this guy has been so helpful, thank you makuloco, anyone know how to pronounce his name, haha nevermind I just got it I think
THANK YOU
Sir what is the problem of my car....ford ranger trekker 2009 model...i observe the rpm just only 2500-2600 hi could not rech 3000rpm or something...if itry to overtake i could not overtake faster because if the rpm rich 2500-2600..the engine power strenght hi comebck to low..if i try overtake and i use 2nd gear and i pickup accelerator the rich the 2500-2600rpm the engine power automatic to down & if i change the gear the ingine power low so i start slowly and take the second to go fast..plz help me..
Does this electronic Throttle encloses the IAC or is it in a separate place, but I can't find it in my 2013 focus.
Thank you.
It’s all in one with the electronic throttle body on your car