Why Hive Projectiles are REALLY Weird…
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Bows, snowballs, and enderpearls on The Hive's Minecraft Bedrock server have always been a topic of debate, as a result of them being custom coded for the server. Some people say that they should be changed to be more like vanilla Minecraft, whereas others would like them to stay the way that they are currently. In this video, I'll explain EXACTLY how projectiles on The Hive work, and go more in depth about into the discussion about them. I also talk about my opinions on them, along with those of some other content creators, all over some Hive Skywars background gameplay.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:58 Comparing Hive and Vanilla Minecraft
2:20 Forums Discussion
3:22 Content Creator Opinions
5:00 How would projectiles change?
8:18 My Opinions
8:51 Outro - Hry
Hey, the clip at 5:53 is by InsaneOrbitzz, not Jakester. I edited this WAY too late last night and forgot to edit the text that I copied and pasted from the last clip LOL
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@@VelsYT pog
Np!
That was a sick shot from orbitzz ngl
I watched that shot live yesterday, such a king👑
Mj sounding like he wrote a mini script for his reply😂
true story, that's exactly what he did
@@PotatoPie25 love it 😂👏🔥
@@PotatoPie25 man wrote a whole ass essay about a block game
@@PotatoPie25 doge of pvp was slain by Oddsyy for real I killed him in sg before
LMAO🤣
Projectiles are fine on the hive, just different, but PLEASE hive make the void lower. 90% of my failed pearl clutches are to dying to fast to the void before the pearl hits.
AGREED
YEAH EVEN MOSTLY THE MAP CALLED PILLARS
@@George._.M I can't even look up in the amount of time it takes to die on drop
so true
YES HIVE PLEASE DO IT
4:25 why does MJ talk like he's writing a paragraph for his 5th grade writing teacher
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANNN
That’s just mj’s personality.
Ahh Yes a Snowball Enthusiast
Hi Jacko
snowballs...
Ikr lol im ur fan patar and first reply
They are broken and should be removed. Same with jump bridging. No skill combos and bridging.
You must be scared of them
@@thewalnutwoodworker6136 actually its skill, snowballs are just a boost, i remember making a person fly in the air with the help of a sb, its not broken, but it is if you have the skill
@@thewalnutwoodworker6136 mad noob lol
Practice dude
I can even jump bridge in mobile and combo people
My internet just sucks because i keep teleporting back to spawn
IMO the more broken mechanics are the vanilla ones, not Hive’s. Look at Java vs Bedrock bows and ender pearls, why aren’t Bedrock’s versions more controlled like Java? In Bedrock, bows are basically a straight line drive, while ender pearls are pretty much impossible to predict because they go so far and their animation in-game is very hard to judge. If Bedrock bows and pearls were just like Java, then I’d be 100% FOR vanilla bow and pearl mechanics on Hive.
As for snowballs… I think they’re just too much of an integral part of the Hive experience and it would be a mistake to change them. Their mechanics are perfect as they are right now. The single thing I would change about them would be the amount you get from the shop in Treasure Wars, instead of 3 emeralds for 6, I think a good balance would be 3 emeralds for 4 instead (pretty much goes along with Evident’s opinion on them being too easily obtainable in TW). Makes them a little harder to get, 0.75 emerald per snowball instead of 0.5, and not to mention you’d always get more normal Minecraft-like stacking in your inventory instead of like 16 and 2, or 2 stacks and 10.
I know, very deep and extensive input on this, but if you read till the end, congrats!
EDIT: Very good idea to make this video Potato, well done and THANK YOU!
java just the better version bro atleast you guys have transfer packets
@@bagsnatcher7848 thing is… Java still uses 1.8 from SEVEN years ago…
@@CrispyMC that's just the pvp almost every version on java is superior to bedrock
8:42 potato get hackusated after comboing a sweat
I didn't expect anyone to read the in-game chat and make a comment about it lmao
*fake sweat*
fr that guy is known for hackusating anyone
He’s so bad wdym sweat
If he is bad then what am i
The fact that he got called a hacker. He's just too good. lol
That guy is gonna rage
Honestly as someone who uses pearls a lot in treasure wars - for the longest time I wanted them to go further, however, if they were to travel further then getting to peoples islands would be easier and so would running away. I actually like that in order to go from mid to someone’s base I have to knockback boom box jump then throw a pearl - it’s kinda my whole persona on TikTok. I think the only issue with the projectiles is that it’s not the same as most servers so people who play across servers struggle to understand it. However, for us Hive mains, I honestly don’t have a problem with any of them, I’m not either for nor against them being like vanilla. I think we would all just adapt anyway! Nice video!! Found this one awesome!
Ya didnt had to make a whole letter to say stuff about Pearl's
I agree with your essay
From line 10 to 12 is true i struggle when i use pearls i always fail to clutch due to how its different than other servers
very highly disagree, hive pearls have it so they feel like a waste. the amount of times i have thrown a pearl and it hits the side of an island because of the lack of momentum is countless,BUT getting away would be easier but isn’t that one of the big points of an enderpearl? and for the cost of 3 emeralds is quite fair to me because usually there is only 1 player who goes to em and gets all of them. in my opinion ender pearls need to be buffed.
@@ryanhelmke2000 so you see
In tw you can only pearl from a distance like
Island-diamond
But in sw its MUCH more important
Since you can pearl clutch and also get away from ppl
Pearl's are really not a waste
They also should put a cooldown for enderpearls just like vanilla cuz for mobile players, you need to hold your screen to throw projectiles but if you don't have the perfect timing, you'll 100% going to throw multiple of them. Also, if hive was to put the enderpearl teleport mechanic, you would get stuck in a block every time you throw one lol (Experienced it while I was making my practice map).
Enderpearls on the hive travel a good distance rn but if we were to have vanilla enderpearl throwing mechanics then you could possibly just throw a pearl from one side of the map to another. It could be boring if someone buys so many pearls and just pearls like 55 blocks away. I think the Hive has done a good job to balance projectiles though. Anyway great video :)
Im not even a bedrock player and i love watching your videos I really think minecraft bedrock has a future and I regret buying java before because I cant get bedrock now.
Both are geat games and have pros and cons. Im glad i can see a java player want to be a bedrock player as i wanted to be a java player for so long but gave up on it
I have bedrock for free with and acc you dont need to buy it to have an acc and play servers
@@CaptainTex34 you really should not talk about piracy. Not everyone wants to steal.
@@Oddgamer0917half of the bedrock players have it for free what you mean
@@CaptainTex34 if half of the people got it for free then it would not be in any stores like appstore and playstores top paid games. Not to mention piracy is wrong since you are basically stealing. I will admit I once pirated it when I was a kid. And if you wanted to know, no getting it for free from a friend or family who paid for it is not piracy as it is a paid copy that they own and they are allowed to do anything with it except for reselling and giving it to websites so other people can pirate.
I would love ender pearls to go further, there have been so many games I failed my ender pearl and died just because I thought it would go far enough
Agreed
Yeah. I think they projectiles like they are because they do more knockback than Java which kinda makes them too OP so they nerfed it
True
Awesome video, ty, I was about to do the same distance test for my own stuff but now I don't have to :)
Also at 7:57, I believe I know why pearls send you one block up, instead of two blocks up, which is what happens in vanilla Minecraft. This is to make it so when players pearl on a block above them, the chances that they pearl inside the block, and get stuck becomes a lot more slim. It's also so players can see their surroundings outside of the blocks, instead of them seeing inside of the block when needing to clutch. Vanilla makes that so annoying. I hope my explanation makes sense.
I think pearls need SPEED nice vid
I think projectiles are fine, only thing I would change would be the speed on the pearls, they seem slow and its not a huge buff at all
Hello nerd4bird o/
Pearls need to go faster and a tiny bit straighter and I'll be hapy
it's just the animation
@@bagsnatcher7848 no, it’s the speed of the pearl
Very good video, personally I’m not affected too much by snowballs and enderpearls, I feel they are fine as they are, mainly because I’ve learnt how they work now.
However with bows I feel they should be changed to not swerve up and have that annoying dip, but once again because I’ve learnt them I feel they shouldn’t be like vanilla.
Also that clip at 5:53 👀
Hi :D
U should meet mj owns u
0:40 I love the font you use!
The clutch was insane 2:12
You guarantee that I fired a snowball. I guarantee I got yeeted many times by snowballs.
My favorite part of the vid has nothing to do with projectiles but when the person call potato a hacker at the end lol
Projectiles are one of my favourite things on Hive, great video potato
Potato: there is a great projectile debate
me who uses all of them: I play all sides so I'm always on top
Oh my god. Finally you posted. Thank you.
Hello
I just discovered your channel today and you got me interested into trying bedrock edition. Thank you.
FINALLY twitch chat gets justice
Every time we talk about videos and someone says hive projectiles you say "its in the work" or "to much research" and finally you made the video.
I am content 😌
As a CZcamsr that makes a lot of content about clutching, I can definitely say that it would take a while to get used to new pearl mechanics. This isn’t to say that they’re good, but I’m used to them. I’m fine with the projectiles atm (although I would love if they extended the void) but maybe a little change would be ok. Great video as always Potato!
Remember us when you get to 100,000K. I love your content bro.
the insaneorbitzz trick shot is clean ✋
I’m a bridge player and their are types of bow shots called blundets or flats, which is where u barely load the bow, the arrow curves downwards but in the hive it’ll just go straight or curve up
8:50 potato getting hackusated lol
You know it’s a good day when potato uploads
My dad died today
@@blvey rip
8:44 Who else noticed that someone called potato a hacker lol 😂 Good video as always keep it up plz
8:44 mans really getting hackusated out here
I really didn’t get why projectiles like arrows didn’t work like vanilla in the Hive. Thanks for clearing this up.
I remember being extremely confused when I first play the hive because my projectiles essentially never hit, even thought there may be something wrong with my wifi or I'm lagging. Took around a week or so that I realized that this "problem" was too consistent to be a bug.
Almost half way to 100k
potato pie voice reached an reverse purberty
Well made vid!
I would say that snowballs and bows are relatively balanced. I would say that ended pearls going further would be cool and I would like that in most casinarios but if you got an e pearl in one of you spawn chest in skywars your garenteed E-chests at mid before everyone else because you can throw them all the way there.
Ik this is just a bedrock feature, but i wish they were more like java pearls. So they can go faster.
This video is really informative
if hive increases the distance of ender pearl throw, it might go beyond the island when we throw it cuz the islands on skywars and treasure wars are both small and if we throw an enderpearl to go on a specific island it might go farther into the void and the enderpearl gets wasted
I also like to point out ender perks could travel faster, I feel like they are a bit slow in those clutch or game over situations
Oh how controversial. Enjoyed the video, keep it up 👍🏻
YAY NEW VID!
i think the projectiles are good in the way they are right now, especially the knock back make them unique. the only thing about them that i would like to be changed about them is the momentum of the enderpearls, its so anoying when you allready die fast because auf the void beeing so near to the map but also, but the low momentum of the enderpearls just makes it wors. i had this in so often when i played treasurewars and it ruins wins and good plays.
The “HACKER” at the end cracked me up
Lmao the gameplay, you got SuperGamerDX, people malding in chat and people calling you a hacker!
Wassup Potato man! Damn! I'm seeing one of his videos after so long LOL..
Hello potatoepie it’s me Josue060906 from twitch love the vid I agree with what mj said because that is what makes the server different
The Most Satisfying Video
Does anyone remember on april fools when any type of projectile when thrown was an egg?
As a person who plays cube craft bows are overpowered one of my longest bow shots was 50-60 blocks long and 35-45 blocks height on skywars, its balanced by the fact that the armour is high level so damage is quite small. usually, people game over from fall damage due to the arrow. I also always die to hive ender pearls
1 thing I noticed is that the e pearls they got shorter throw distance when 1.16 came out
I think that projectiles should stay as they are as every server is unique and hive likes to be unique so having there own game physics would only make sense
I havent tested it on vanilla mc but when throwing snowballs up from a 1 block tube or pillar, a team that receive damage or kb to the snowballs will just fly in the tube.
MJ practically wrote an essay or a PowerPoint presentation
You don’t need to move your camera up and down while mj bridging
Edit:just letting you know if you move your cross gate up and down and your opponent jumps up with you you don’t see so he can come unexpectedly at you.
Mj seeing this what yo mean snow balls are perfect
8:45
PotatoPie got hackusated 2021 colorized
luv u potato i now know hive better thanks to you
I remember when I used to play, and enderpearls were so bad! Bows and snowballs seemed balanced, but Hive really needs to buff Enderpearls at least a bit..
This is why i love hive its so special its not like hypixel or cubecraft
I would probably want to have a change of the e-pearls physics cause I almost everytime misjudge it and snowballs and bows are perfectly fine for me
In my opinion, Hive snow balls KB is The best KB you could get, But The bow is broken When I shoot it the arrow Just disappears. I hope they could fix it as soon as possible.
Potato almost at 50k
8:45 POV: Potatopie just has a good gaming chair
Ok, I definitely think snowballs are in a good place in sg because they are super rare. But most of the other stuff in the video I totally agree with, especially that snowballs need to be more expensive in treasure wars because you can literally run around mid once and there could only be one emerald in each gen, but you could still get 24 snowballs which is more than enough for a skilled person to just snowball you off the map, and with just one circle around mid with one emerald per gen, you already get way more snowballs then you could ever get in any other gamemode. My suggestion would be maybe making 6 snowballs cost 3 emeralds, or keeping the cost at 1 emerald but for only 2 or 3 snowballs.
Idk why but whenever I watch potatopie' video it is like a presentation and I am very focused whenever I watch his video
The reason why the arrows curve up is because it makes it easier to shoot supply crates in survival games
I think the hive did a good job on projectiles but u should be able to shoot ender pearls farther if ur farther to an island u wont be able to clutch I think they should change the distance for ender pearl's
Video on the new cubecraft mode?
I personally think that it would be better for older players to learn new physics then for new players learning new physics.
I feel like the projectiles should be more like this:
Snowballs: I feel like the 44 block range is quite good for these as they are not usually used for long range but they should definitely be more expensive in Treasure wars
Bows: in my opinion they are fine in their current state but I feel that if the range was increased and arrows were harder to get they would be useful for long range shots to hit people off bridges but also couldn't be spammed because of the lack of arrows
Ender pearls: just make them go further because I and most others tend to play a variety of servers and worlds and when I spend a day on worlds with my friends and then switch to the hive for a few games I end up dying countless times to misjudged pearl throws
i do feel like snballs and bows are fine, i do think that the void could be deeper as u die as soon as u take damage and also u dont buy a pearl bc u think u need to cluch, bc u want to travel faster
I believe that the more casual player will say change them but then competitive players will say no since they have studied the movement of each projectile but the real question is should knock back Nemo be removed or just nerfed
At the end I couldn't focus on what potato pie was saying because of the guy who called him a hacker
They probably feel dumb after seeing this video if they ever see it
8:45 when you are too good at the game that someone calls you a hacker
"I basically failed physics in high school" but didn't we all...
I MEAN YEAH LMAO
Sinceramente, única coisa que eu exigiria uma mudança, seria no spam de bolas de neve no TW. Talvez se aumentassem o preço delas seria melhor.
Honestly, the only thing I would require a change would be TW's snowball spam. Maybe if they raised the price it would be better.
if pearls get a bit slower and get a bit far it will be bad but whatever i thank it is pretty good
When I first started I called their arrows "lead arrows"
id like them default but pearls the same because vanilla pearls dont go up soit is very hard to e perl clutch so if i can change it i wud make all projectiles vanilla and have perls with java physics
A good idea for the hive’s projectiles is to have two different choices hive physics and vanilla physics
There fine right now. I have no issues with the meta and never knew the bow was different because I’ve never really played vanilla. As for KB on snowballs i like it now. It’s not that bad right now for skywars as for TW it’s crazy bc you can get several stacks and continually combo you. + if pearls threw farther it could go way too far and it would ruin it, because pearls IMO are already way too OP and even throwing farther wouldn’t help. I think the void should go lower.
Honestly I feel like pearls go a good distance but the fact that they take forever to go there is soo annoying. I think that the need speed and not distance.😎
8:44 i love how that dude say your hacking just you combo him hahaha.
love the video...But when talking about the knockback or the change of an object that any moving makes, it is not measured in speed. it is actually measured in the momentum of the projectile and the velocity. then is you find the change in velocity or acceleration, if one of these quantities is not giving you can measure the displacement of the object that is hit.
like i said, i have a very limited understanding of physics. thanks for explaining better
I think they should be less common, but I REALLY don’t want the knock back should be changed. I do think pearls should go farther, but snowballs and bows I’m not sure. I think to no armour a bow should do 3.5 or 4 hearts. But, please don’t change knockback hive. I’m with deezee here.
Ender pearls need to go much faster. And they need to make the hit box smaller. I would also like them to go farther.
enderpearls on cube are the only projectile i have problem with they don't go anywhere and have no speed so if you are to enderpearl clutch (which i have before it's not easy) you have to do it almost instantly and you have to aim a little higher once you start falling you won't clutch you have to do it right as they hit you it's not easy with fast one's but it's also just not easy to use pearls because of the speed.
i remember when this video was called the Hive projectile Debate
From my opinion to make the players habit of vannila Minecraft, not taking them away from Vannila Minecraft because like they think to start survival after being bored on Hive(which 90% of the people could not XD). They might be not able to understand what to do so they will face problem and they might leave playing the actual game that is Survival. So this will decrease the amount of players in Minecraft as after getting bored they will directly leave Minecraft and not play it which will decrease the amount of players in Minecraft community. So, I think that they should match with Vannila Minecraft.
Good vid potato
2:41 was one of the ones that said no deezee I think that was his logo lol
I would love these changes so i can practice ender pearling in so many ways
Nice video:P
The only thing I want is that treasure wars that you can still see people’s health after shooting a bow from a small distance