Delboy's Garage:- Wheel Balancing with "Dyna Beads"
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- The single simplest way to balance motorcycles wheels, bar none !
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Tried them in a set of tires and had no issues, they worked fine. A couple things to note: it may be easier to put in while changing tires but if using tire irons it is easy for them to spill out in the process and also stick to the bead lube while installing/wrestling tire on. Also the special valve core is a bit longer and will not work with short valve stems. Just need to keep valve in an upper position when adding air to avoid any beads getting caught in the regular core. Thank you for your channel, I have learned a lot from you!
Hi Del. Been using these for years and years. Great bit of kit. Wheel permanently balanced no matter what. You won't go back. They can be reused in next tyre. Pour in side of tyre before fitting on rim.
Thanks buddy, I'm absolutely loving this kind of approval and recommendation, it's great to know it's so popular...!
I must admit I have never even heard of Dyna Beads before, look forward to hearing your opinion of them. I have heard of tyre gloop that self repairs punctures on tubeless tyres and also provides self balancing of the wheel. Thankyou both, Del and Penny, for sharing this information.
Sure thing mate, me too, have used Goop in the past, and other products like it, so it works in a similar way I guess!
I haven't tried Dyna Beads yet, may give it a go on the next set of boots for the Indian Scout. Melly and I swear by Ride-On which is a similar concept but it's fluid and not dry beads. Was going to do Dyna Beads in the past but we decided on Ride-On as it's also a sealant. It won't freeze in extreme temps and with the exception of really large punctures, it can get you to safety if the tire picks one up. The only down side is it's a mess to clean out of the rim when you change tires. I can see how the Dyna Beads would be a better solution in that case. I think for us going forward, maybe we use Dyna Beads on the Speedmaster and Scout and keep the Ride-On for the Royal Enfield Himalayan's. Great video as always and sage words at the end. Cheers!
Mike
I used that type of balancing method on some off-road tires. It worked fantastic. The only issue was if there is a tire repair they can stick to the glue. Baby powder on the inside of the tire at the repair can limit this.
That's great insight buddy, thank you so much for that, wise advice.
Also, mention that you have them in your setup if you take the wheel to a tire place… more so if you run any slime-style puncher stuff.
Fascinating, I'm so glad that you are willing to experiment with an open mind; you never know until you try, right? I admit to being vaguely skeptical all my life about these things, but no personal knowledge, so I keep quiet lol. I guess for me, a lot of it has been the wonder of a flat tire removal/repair out in the boonies or on a trip, and there's no hope of any air supplies here not having lots of moisture in them (northern BC Canada). Would have been criminal to glop weights on those beauties, aye!
You make a great point there buddy, all of these things are great when we are in a conveniently domestic environment... but not so great when we're out there in the wasteland lol ... thanks, as always, for your wonderful support!
There's a lot of great comments here from people who've used these. It's refreshing to see that there's still an underlying genuine community spirit here. It represents what your channel and it's viewers stand for. Sharing our experiences and passing on the highs and lows for the benefit of all.
Peace and love as always ✌️ ❤😊
Thanks so much buddy, and yeah, thats how it used to be, but in so many areas negativity has taken the shine off the whole community.. it's certainly good to see a little glimpse of it back now and again aye..! Take care and stay safe buddy.. always good to hear form you.
Cool. and like others I will be interested in a follow up after clocking a few miles....or many! Enjoyed the style and content of your 'closing' chat! Have a great weekend, D & P!
Thanks Allen, enjoyed making the outro, just covering the obvious questions, perhaps we should do that a little more often! Have a great weekend there too, D&Px
AWESOME!! I’ve used dynabeads or similar products for years. They work great. Never had a problem.
Thanks so much for the endorsement Ken.
Fascinating solution to balancing wheels. You wouldn't think tiny beads inside the tyre would do the job but it seems they do. Nice one for putting this out there Del - I had never heard of them before 👍
Thanks buddy.. glad to pass it forward, it seems a pretty well respected alternative method to weights !
@@Moonfleet41 👍
I had liquid balancer in my truck tires and work fantastic. Wintertime, cold spell takes time to warm up to actually balance. I was little skipical using Dino beads in motorcycles due fact I’m deaf, can’t hear if something gone wrong, or moisture like you said…. For safety sake for me stay with static balancing….BUT…. Im sure they be great riding in hot dry summer. Sometimes boggles my mind how that stuff actually balances the tires. I can’t put the math or physics in my head. LOL
Sure thing buddy, I left a link below to the company that supplies them and they have a short video graphic on their website which does a pretty good job of demonstrating them in use! Take care and have a great weekend.
Likewise !! Thanks..
I googled the explanation of balancing effects… know what I would love to see?? Glass tire rim…. Watch the beads work. I think it be fascinating.
Del, as others have said it is easier to put them in when the bead is broken but be careful not to let them get stuck to the tire lube. I’ve seen them embedded in the bead and worse I’ve seen them launched out by the air. My system is after seating both beads l’ll break the bead again on one side and pop the tire up on the duck head with an iron; makes a perfect little opening to pour them directly in past the lube; not a single stuck or launched bead since I started that.
Thanks buddy, sounds like good advice !
I'll be interested to see how that pans out Del? As you say, plenty of thumbs-up from the internet, so should be ok? One thing came to mind though: If anyone applies them to their tyres themself using that method (directly via the valve stem) and then later on gets a new tyre or a tyre repair at a tyre specialist, then they might want to let them know before they find out the hard way and get beads all over their garage floor! 🙄 Good luck with the rest of the project. 🙂
I have work with motorbikes for more than 40 years . i have never hard about Dyna beads before, First it sounds like a joke but as a serious mecanic you are Del you have convinced me. I think 😊 I think i will try this sometime. Have a nice 2024 you and Penny. Regards Bjorn in Sweden..
Hi Bjorn, thank you for your kind words, great to hear from a fellow mechanic... I was sceptical myself on the Dyna Beads, but by all acconts they do work well and a great way to avoid ugly weights!
Seems like such a gimmick, “magic beads” to balance your wheel. But like another commenter said, I have seen similar used on heavy truck tires and it really works! I believe these will do the same. Great video!!
Agreed, I think anything that seems too good to be true, or bucks convention, will always come in for criticism because people always need to be negative, but I like to find out for myself, as you did.
We used them in are HDs years ago worked very well 👍
They put them in my wheels during the last tire change, and I've put about 3K miles in on the bike since on my '19 Triumph Speed Triple RS 1050. I was admittedly uneasy to read that they were used (I had dropped the wheels off and then picked them up), but I will report they have been perfect in performance up to maximum speeds and spirited riding along with all-around road use. I am now a believer.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience mate, that's invaluable!
Great produce very well explained with details and iam sold thanks Del
Very welcome
I've been using these for 10 years without any issues. Sometimes the tube does clog up, but I've found that a quick shot of air into the tube clears it easily. Keep a shop vac handy when you break the tire down to suck the beads out before they get all over the shop floor. They like to run away, like a 10mm socket!
Sure thing Paul, it's gonna be fun getting them all out some day, but for a couple of 2oz bags, I may just buy some more... thanks for your input mate.
Awesome video brother! Learned something new today 👍 had no idea the make those, good choice on keeping the wheels free and clear ! Keep up the great work brother stay safe guys cheers from New York 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
Thanks as always Renzo, we're glad you approve, and that you also for your loyal support brother.. Take care and stay safe.. D&Px
I agree with your reasoning not to spoil the look of those beautiful wheels i had not of this method of balancing learnt something new cheers Del
Thanks buddy, am glad you approve, looking forward to seeing how well they work.
I've never heard of them, thanks for your trial. Two ounces per wheel is quite a lot of weight. Looking forward to your verdict after the test ride. Have a great weekend, Günter/Nürnberg
Sure thing mate, however because the beads are a fluid mass they distribute around the tyre in to low spots, rather than stay in one clump so there'll be 2oz in one place, assuming they work of course.
te sigo desde el principio y siempre me a gustado tu trabajo limpio y pulcro, que sigas creciendo y suerte 🤜🤛👍
I've used these on my CVO Road King for years rather than putting weights on my custom wheels. No problems. They do an excellent job.
Thanks for your kind endorsement buddy, that's really helpful!
Those wheels are amazing! Interesting balancing method, Del. I’m stunned! 🏍️👍🏍️
I tried these years ago in a Michelin 17 inch and they all bunched up and got stuck in one place and made the bike shake so bad I thought I left the wheel loose. I've been using ride on fluid for a couple of years now and it works great! It also seals small holes
Thanks for your insight buddy, I've heard that too about Ride On and Ultraseal.
Great video Del, I have been using a similar product for the past 3-4 years and they are not as messy as the fluid products. The theory appears solid and I have never had any balance problems. I recall reading a test of a fluid product and the writer weighted some spokes unevenly with some solder wire and the process worked very nice. Enjoyed the vid, and the nice clean look without weights, cheers!
Thanks buddy, I've not heard of the liquid product, but it is claimed by the makers of the gloopy puncture sealant that it helps to balance the wheel, so obviously the same principle! Thanks for your insight and kind support.
Lots of potential benefits there, mostly like you said not having to stick weights on those beautiful wheels. Also if you mount your own tires you don't have to invest in a wheel balancing jig. If this were brand new technology I might be leery but as you said they have been around a long time and have lots of fans. Good call I'd say. Many thanks and best wishes my friends. ❤👍👍
Sure thing Rick, we can trust in the quarter of a century of sales, and old legends like truck drivers tipping shotgun pellets in to their tyres back in the old days, I think it's an old principle that just works. Thanks for your kind feedback and have a great weekend, D&Px
Never heard of these before, interesting stuff. Makes you think :)
Cheers, have a great weekend.
Yeah sure mate, first time use for me, looking forward to the result.
Hi Del ,what's happening with the other guy criticizing your videos ? keep going m8 you've done me well over the years. hoping your better stay safe and well cheers john.
Thanks John, 👍 Health under control as much as it can be, really appreciate your kind words of support.. D&Px
keep shining and smiling lol@@Moonfleet41
Very interesting, but I do not understand which is the principle that make these beads balance the wheel. Why putting them inside is possible to balance? How they take the right position for dynamic balancing? thank you , very cool.
If you open the link to the product in the description below this video, you'll find a very helpful videographic which shows exactly how they work!
tanks a lot@@Moonfleet41
I’m on my 4th set of tires on 2 different bikes using Dyna Beads, I love them. It does take patience to get all the beads in the tire, you’ll be tempted to try and force them in faster but don’t, just accept that this will be a 2 beer job and move on.
Yes indeed, tap away gently till they all trickle in.
Had something like this in my fxdb tires from the previous owner, but almost everytime I checked air pressure one would get stuck in the valve and let all the air out. No matter what orientation the stem was.
I think I'd be tempted to use dry nitrogen with those little beads. Having them get stuck together or stick all in one area inside the tire when parked would be my concerns, like over winter storage. I'll be watching for the test ride video.
That would be an interesting fail safe, I guess not people have that available to the for daily top ups, but I can see how it would certainly work.
@@Moonfleet41 Yup, no $40 USB tire inflator will do dry nitrogen for sure. Spring and fall I am constantly adjusting tire pressures it seems like.
Interesting.
I WAS going to say it would’ve been good to balance them using your normal method; and then using the Dyna Beads to check the balance vs the traditional method. ( I’m sure you could’ve temporarily taped etc some weights to your rim without damaging them).
Then I realised you couldn’t generate the rotational speed to create adequate centrifugal force to make the little buggers work their magic.
Does that mean they won’t balance until the wheel is doing a certain RPM?
Interesting.
I can pretty much do that, kind of.. I know the wheels had 20g front and 30g rear, and haven't changed or removed the tyres.. and when i come to replace them, i will ask the tyre guy to spin them up on his machine and tell me how accurate they now are..! and yes of course, they do need to spin to balance, so ill be able to tell when riding the bike if they're working or not..!
In the unfortunate case of needing a puncture repair the beads would stick to the sticky repair tube thing you shove into the tire. Other than that, I can't see a problem occurring other than what you've already stated.
Great idea be intersting to hear your results
Well there's a new one on me. Fascinating, it will be interesting to hear how you do with them in the future. Eager to hear here :)
Video to come mate, once I've had a good ride or two on it, I should know pretty much straight away!
Absolutely brilliant- which I had know a long time ago. Thanx
Safe rides 👍😋
Thanks buddy, happy to pass it forward, recommended by lots of viewers down the years... looking forward to coming back with a review in the future!
Interesting! I’m soon to replace the tyres on my 790R, these would save me the faff of balancing. Del, any thoughts on what happens to the beads when you change tyres? As in can they be reused… 😊
Yes mate, if you can retrieve the beads, you can tip them in the new tyre when they fit them, but you can buy a refill bag if you loose a few!
@@Moonfleet41that’s interesting! A moisture trap/separator for my airline is on my list too.
Great video!! Do you have any videos on servicing the 1100 V-Twin Moto Guzzi? I have a 2000 California Basa
No, sorry, never owned one of those or had anything to do with one im afraid...
Thanks@@Moonfleet41
I remember you saying about this product before.
Maybe a test could be, take them to a tyre shop with a balancing machine and see what results you get with the beads in.
Good idea, I think when it comes to tyre replacement time I'll get the guy to spin them up before we remove them, be an interesting test!
You can dump them all in when you’re mounting the tire too.
Yes indeed, far easier when it's new tyre time, just empty the bag in to the gap!
Surely the definitive test would be to run them now on a dynamic balancer ! which would either prove or disprove the theory
'surely' you're dead right if I had a dynamic balancing machine that is... I can, of course, do this when I take the tyres for replacement in the future, but not today.
@@Moonfleet41 universal/ watling tyres used to offer this service for a very small fee but unfortunately they were taken over by Halfords and no longer do motorcycles
Not heard of Dyna beads before, but looking forward to see how you go with them mate. from all the comments they sound the business. Penny and you have a great weekend and take care. Cheers
Sure thing mate, heard about them for years but never tried them, and a great opportunity this time as I didn't want ugly weights on these lovely wheels! Have a great weekend there, keep safe, D&Px
Thanks for the great video's.....just ordered the beads to try out....I'm in Texas where it is hot and humid as hell 10 months of the year.....gonna fill tired with nitrogen in an attempt to keep it nice and dry inside....Please let us know your opinion after testing. Thanks again.
Glad to hear you're gonna try them out, i hear only good things about them.! Good luck wit it sir. !
Hey, Del! I’m looking forward to your thoughts after some riding. I was contemplating using them on my next set of tires for my FLHRXS, but my bike has TPMS. I have to do more research on them. Ride safe!
Check out the web link I left below the video, I believe there's information and guidance on their website regarding the use of these with TPMS... thanks for your kind support mate.
@@Moonfleet41 thanks, Del! Will do! 👍🏻
Wouldn’t centrifugal force push them all out evenly inside the tire so if the tire was originally unbalanced wouldn’t it still have the same imbalance while spinning. It looks balanced on a bench because they weight down the tire and stops the originally heavier side from being down. This has add a sticker for more hp vibes to me. But as you stated at the end just my opinion.
Thanks Del for another informative video. I had to plug my tyre yesterday I’m guessing they wouldn’t work then? Riding an adventure bike I’ll stick with weights 👌🏽🇬🇧💂🏼♂️🫡🍻.
If it's a dry plug with no stickiness, like the rubber doughnut ones, they should be fine, but if there's any glue or sticky residue, then yeah of course they'll all be attracted to it!
Admit I'm old school on this and can't help my brain from being skeptical but if there's any objective evidence or comparison in the future, I'd be more open to considering it for myself. Have a great weekend.
You're right, it does seem like witchcraft, but I guess the simple science behind it works in theory... I guess I'll find out soon enough, the wheels had 30g and 20g of weight respectively when they were stuck on, so I'll soon know right away if they're not working!
I use them. They work, although I can't explain exactly how they work, they just do.
My last two Michelin tyres on the Tiger Explorer didn't need any balancing weights, but I'll definitely give these ago on the Thunderbird.
Yes increasingly, tyres are getting so good now that many need little or no balancing.
Would have liked to have seen how off balanced they were before the beads.
Easy, check out the video prepping the wheels for paint and you'll see I took 30g of the rear wheel and 20g off the front wheel!
what kind of monster head air pressure head is that???
Please make a separate review video of the beads when you have the experince with them. I hate having weights on my nice mag wheels and keeping an eye on them if they fell off or not.
Absolutely mate, I will do that, am keen on these for the same reasons you are.
Please let us know how those Dyna beads work out. I have heard they wear the inside of the tire.
I wholey indeed to mate, one of the reasons I didn't replace the tyres (other than budget right now), was I want to wear these tyres out and see exactly what they do to the inside of the carcasss as I've heard a few concerns... time will tell.
I'm sure it works your videos are great I just can't see putting stuff inside my tire haha
Used them on many bikes with zero issues.
I’ve heard that in the old days, transport truck drivers used to add shot from shotgun shells into their tires. Maybe an urban legend but who knows.
I like the fact that as the tire wears, the balancing effect adjusts. Brilliant!
Love your channel. Maybe your wife disagrees, but you are the most patient and contentious guy on CZcams. Your work is undeniably meticulous!
Best wishes from British Columbia!
I've heard that old legend too, big truck tyre, crack open a couple of 12 bore cartridges and pour in, probably not a brilliant idea as they're gunpowder in there, perhaps some fine fishing shot instead, but same principle! Thank you so much for your kind words and encouragement... hope it's not getting to cold already for your there, we know you have long winters!
it doesn't seem like those would actually work as intended.
They work very well. Many of us use a similar product in heavy truck tires and they work great.
Ive used them on 2 bikes with great success
What an excellent idea, will be interesting to see your views on them after you have maybe done a few miles on the bike.
It would have been interesting to see how they sort of work when you had them on your wheel balancer.
As they are dynamic in their function, the wheel needs to spin at high speed to distribute them, I guess hence the name Dyna Beads... but if you go on their website via the link I left below the video, there's a short video graphic demonstrating the principle!
@@Moonfleet41 Ah excellent, will have a look, Thanks.
Have you seen the American “say no to balance beads” video. It says they break down the inside of the tyre. Shows a tyre with loads of rubber bits inside caused by the balance beads. Maybe this isn’t an issue but I wouldn’t use them.
One of the reasons I didn't buy new tyres was I'm curious about these, so as these will wear out within a season I'll be able to see exactly what they do myself, rather than be influenced by somebody else, as I said in the video.
Will you do a video after a ride at speed.
Here in the United States the balancing beads are frequently used for large, commercial vehicles with large tires (semis and other combination vehicles). I've used them on my passenger vehicles for years (most tire shops will use them upon consumer's request). They're non-abrasive on the interior of the tire carcass, and they continue to do their job as the tire wears. They're also good for use on off-road vehicles, as there's no danger of shedding wheel weights in deep mud or other rough terrain. Also, the tire shops here in the US will frequently put a special valve cap on the stem to let tire technicians know there are beads in the tires. The only time the beads are a failure is when someone makes a bad life choice and uses Slime to stop a leak. In addition to making a mess of the inside of the tire, the Slime will glue the beads to one area, and you'll never get the tire balanced again until you unmount the tire and cleanse the inside of the carcass.
Wise words well said Paul, same as I mentioned in the video, you can't, as you say, use any goop or any other sealant and a dry air line would also be an advantage!
Good choice man, I had them in my 2013 fatboy lo and now in my 04 road king and they work superbly. Can't wait to see what's next on your build Del!
Thanks buddy, it's great to hear it works for you, valuable insight indeed... and thank you for your support.
1500 wing suffered from cupping, put dyna beads in...kin ell no issues and a long tyre life..better ride.
Well I never, so they actually improved tyre wear? Makes you wonder factories don't use them...
Great channel, like the way you display and promote techniques and parts.
Thanks Chris.
Hey Penny and Del, great video! Very interesting - I look forward to hearing your reports when you've ridden the bike for a while. Take care, dear friends. Have a great weekend!
Thanks buddy, I should know straight away as the wheels had plenty of weight on them before I painted them, so they'll either work or they won't, I shall report back once it's on the road! Enjoy your weekend there too, be safe and keep well, D&Px
Dyna-beads only work for balancing….. if you want awesome puncture/flat repair as well as the best balancing hands down, go rideon !!
Del what do think of the dyna beads? A H-D mechanic told me they are not safe at high speeds but I have them in my 03 road king and no issues. Love your videos
Ive used them for a while now, and not had a single issue, in fact tbh i forgot about them... and id say they're certainly safe at road legal speeds and maybe a little higher... but i can't comment on how they'd perform at much higher, maybe track day speeds..!!!
@@Moonfleet41Thank you for your input!
Love the rich gold colour wheels. I was wondering what bodywork colour would go well. Black (jps Lotus) , Dark blue (Subaru wrx) another, or British racing green, even cherry red ? Guess i'll have to wait n see.
All of those colours would work buddy which is why it's a bit of a dilemma!
A minor puncture causes chaos on the A35. ('Direct traffic? - we can't stay on our own feet, Sarge!')
& Ringo, Del & Penny have a surprise Number-one Christmas hit with 'Who let the beads out?!' : )xx
That would be good, perhaps it could challenge 'Merry Christmas Everybody' and we could retire like Noddy and Dave!
Yeah, just get everyone in - 'The Travelling Delboys' . . .
Worth a try, then u’ll know for yourself. What’s who cares what others think, each to their own eh.
Absolutely mate, a great alternative to conventional wheel weights which anyone can fit! Have a good Sunday mate.
Why have I not heard of these before you will have to ride the bike for a good time and let us know what you think 🤔
I will do exactly that mate, the wheels previously had quite a lot of weight on so I'll know right away if they're working or not!
Witchcraft. I have heard of other people using them, just never tried them out.
Me neither buddy, looking forward to finding out!
Interesting. I have heard of these (and similar - 40 years as a mechanic you tend to see a lot of things) I have not used them myself, tend to dynamically balance (with the wheel on the vehicle specifically) you are right to try them yourself, after all it's your ride and you can do what you want with it , thank you very much internet....
Sure thing buddy, one of the motivations was loosing the big, ugly weights... and I don't mean losing them on the road, but losing them altogether, although that is also a consideration!
Hi Del, never even heard of these, I guess my only concern would be one of ecology. If they are plastic beads, then they could contribute to plastic waste going into the environment. Then again I don't suppose the stick on weights get recycled either. Hey ho. Hope they work for you. Have a great weekend.
Andy.
Not so buddy, they're actually ceramic, not plastic, that's what makes them heavy so on that basis I guess they're inert like any other stone... and of course the stick on weights which once upon a time were lead, will end up in the environment too... all products have a footprint aye mate?
Great video Del! Great idea, especially after all that hard work spraying those beautiful wheels! Shall have to try them out! Have a great weekend mate!
Thanks mate, am hoping for a good outcome with this as I really don't want to stick ugly weights on my wheels... I'll report back down the line at how it goes! Enjoy your weekend!
That's the second type of "beads" that I find useful.
If your wife has a "facial" massager you can borrow it makes it go much faster.😂
Or a different vibration tool...