"Fibromyalgia: A Unifying Theory" Dr. Andrew J. Holman

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  • čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
  • This presentation was made during the 2007 OFFER Provider's Conference by Andrew J. Holman, M.D.
    Bateman Horne Center is a non-profit clinic and research center, advancing the science, treatment, and education of ME/CFS, fibromyalgia, and related conditions.
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  • @LittleOldGHLady
    @LittleOldGHLady Před 3 lety +9

    That was absolutely fascinating. I've had fibromyalgia for decades, and I also have neck problems but no doctor has ever found any physical cause for that. My neck problems give me classical migraines which disappear when I go to the chiropractor to get it released. I get random palpitations - sometimes with shortness of breat - I have high blood pressure but if I take it at home while sitting quietly it's pretty much always fine (after a few days of 'white coat' response), and I have panic attacks and anxiety and balance problems. The rest (poor sleep, chronic pain, GERD, etc etc) tend to fit in with normal fibro symptoms. I do wish UK doctors would be more up-to-date with fibromyalgia studies.

  • @shiroikasumi
    @shiroikasumi Před 6 lety +10

    I think this presentation (or one of his) made me realise that my fibro is caused by sleep issues, and ever since I've been able to regulate some of my symptoms by paying a lot of attention to my sleep, and I've never been in a flare again so bad that I couldn't get out of bed, which used to be something that happened regularly.
    Thank you! This video has helped me more than any doctor's visit in the past 10 years.

  • @Ribbonsrabbit
    @Ribbonsrabbit Před 9 lety +9

    WOW! This is incredible. It is like you read my medical history! ADHD, hypermobility, panic disorder, tachycardia, sleep disruption, restless leg syndrome...... even my flat feet! All the diagnoses you mentioned, I have them all. And it is really freaky that you even knew my personality traits and career choices! This is truly truly outstanding! Now I need to sort this dopamine thing. And a contribution to your research. Thank you so very much. This research WILL save lives.

  • @patriciadiehl9134
    @patriciadiehl9134 Před 6 lety +6

    I visited institute of TCM in Beijing in china a few years ago, and was explaining my illness fibromyalgia. One of the professor did some routine consultation tests on me.
    His conclusion was, all my medical issues stemmed from my neck.
    I do have neck issues. But am holding surgery at bay, because I've let my docter know, that when i treat myself with reflexology, especially the neck reflexes, my neck issues ease right off.
    From someone who has chronic fibromyalgia, but refuses to give up.
    Very interesting seminar to watch.

  • @danashannon8234
    @danashannon8234 Před 4 lety +5

    More people wirh fibromyalgia than MS, Lupus and rheumatoid arthritis put together with such severe suffering, losing careers, families, losing your sicial life everything. Yet barely any funding. Interesting reading this today because now it's a centralized pain sensitization. I wonder what they will make up next.

  • @mwngw
    @mwngw Před 11 měsíci

    20 years ago I was diagnosed with Mild to Moderate Cervical Stenosis after a whiplash injury. Prednisone remitted the serious symptoms, but since I've been plagued by various enigmatic symptoms, but definitely chronic fatigue. The CFS has plagued me consistently, and upon watching this, I am going to pursue this approach.

  • @CapuchinKingLouie
    @CapuchinKingLouie Před 11 měsíci

    It would be a wonderful thing if our doctors all listened to these lectures and read these studies. Sadly, we mostly deal with "your weakness and pain make no sense, your mri isn't that bad" - heard this just yesterday at my Dr's visit. I wasn't to just scream out "I know my symptoms don't make any sense but please STOP BLOWING ME OFF and do some research!" Finding a doctor with this information is impossible, I've been at it for 15 years. I'm in North Arkansas and would love to find a Dr near me who specializes in Fibromyalgia like you all do.

  • @jofox8066
    @jofox8066 Před 8 lety +2

    Amazing talk. I have fibromyalgia. I am also hypermobile, have restless legs, grind my teeth, I have a long history of SVT, I sleep for 9 hours a night but don't feel rested when I wake up. I am also a qualified teacher and software engineer and I have worked as a professional artist. On top of that I have a cervical neck injury - prolapsed disc.

  • @fibrosmack5899
    @fibrosmack5899 Před 8 lety +15

    this lecture is so interesting & informative ! I feel enlightened! I have fibro. and the bates centre is my goto for updates now & forever more ☺ my rheumatologist (@ the U of A) tested my hands for flexibility.. so interesting.. I would luv to get an MRI done on my bent neck..I wish I could be studied.. I just desperately want to be fixed. fibro has ruined me.

    • @crystalhall5662
      @crystalhall5662 Před 6 lety

      carcar brad where is the bates center located?

    • @nonnalovepriceless
      @nonnalovepriceless Před 4 lety +2

      carcar brad it’s ruined my life .
      I have fybromyalgia chronic fatigue and had mri scan last week and sd I have also ms
      And a leak in my brain 🧠 I’m so mentally depressed. But have to go on

  • @florabraswell8423
    @florabraswell8423 Před rokem

    What a fascinating man ! I have fibromyalgia, Chronic fatigue, RA,and Osteoporosis, l have hurt all my life even as a child , my doctor told me that due to the rheumatic fever , and constant strep l had was the cause of my illness today , but actually l have a neck and spine problem! when your central nervous system is off you are bound for early on pain ! I have had pain all my life “ thought it was normal because no one listened

  • @kristinmcdanielvvhs5507
    @kristinmcdanielvvhs5507 Před 4 lety +4

    Hyper mobility, ADHD, fibro, chronic fatigue, teeth grinding, sweating, crazy hot for no reason, Flat feet, knee pain, spine arthritis, teacher, multi tasking ...all of this is me. So what do we do for it? I also have osteoarthritis but no IBS or irritable bowel. I had a sleep study to check for sleep apnea and they said I sleep fine. Not sure they checked my 4th stage sleep. Would that show up on a sleep apnea study? Would love to come see this doctor and get to the bottom of all of this. I am so tired of pain and fatigue. Strangely I have no real flairs, just constant pain 24/7. Where is this doctor located?

    • @MrTimo1124
      @MrTimo1124 Před 4 lety

      Kristin, you need to get your neck checked by an Orthospinologist! You might have a small misalignment like me that they can fix, and most of these horrible symptoms slowly start to go away and life gets better because your spinal cord isn't being irritated anymore and turning on your fight or flight system ( 4 months ago for me and still getting better)
      Look up NUCCA or Upper Cervical Chiropractors and go get a free consult.
      Reply back or message me if you need more info

    • @Truerealism747
      @Truerealism747 Před rokem

      Me to 24/7 as boulders armpits

  • @SometimeAgo65
    @SometimeAgo65 Před 5 lety +5

    That could possibly be true because I worked for 15 years as a manager and I had to wake up every morning at 3am and I developed everything he is talking about. I was a very detail oriented, driven person. I definitely have neck issues. However, any type of massage, physical therapy makes everything become more inflammed but nothing shows up on an MRI. I do wish someone would really find a reason and a cure.
    By the way, I wrote this before I saw the end with the MRI scans of the neck. I guarantee you that my spinal canal decreases when I look up because it is so hard for me to look up, lay in a hairdresser chair, etc. This makes more sense to me than anything I've ever seen about Fibromyalgia

    • @the1tigglet
      @the1tigglet Před 4 lety

      Nothing comes up on an MRI because it's been discovered that it's literally all in our brain. Dopemine production centers in the brain of sufferers like you and I show shrinkage in CT scans of the brain in the centers that produce dopemine. We are dopemine deficient essentially!

    • @Truerealism747
      @Truerealism747 Před rokem +1

      Also to much glutamate linked to ocd

  • @kennethmoore3783
    @kennethmoore3783 Před 4 lety +2

    “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.” We have more experts than expertise. Horrid condition that is poorly understood. 20+ treatments provide marginal benefit for minority of sufferers.

  • @danashannon8234
    @danashannon8234 Před 4 lety +4

    I wonder where this guy is now. Still treating patients?

  • @joyceb6537
    @joyceb6537 Před 4 lety +1

    Exciting updates. Between Dr Holman & Dr Wood I have heard a description of my life and symptoms that spans fifty years. I had given up hope that there was anything that could really help. I’m grateful there is excellent research going on and hope new insights will be adopted in treatment settings.
    Wish I could have seen the slideshow.

  • @teresajane1954
    @teresajane1954 Před 12 lety +1

    brilliant, why oh why can't the docs see this, seeing this man speak in West Sussex soon, really looking forward to it,

  • @ajc2208
    @ajc2208 Před 5 lety

    Fantastic and comprehensive information. Thank you.

  • @corby1228
    @corby1228 Před 8 lety +4

    I had him for my Dr. Very smart guy I lost my job at Boeing due to damaged neck causing fibro

    • @crystalhall5662
      @crystalhall5662 Před 6 lety +1

      Corby Weaver sorry about your job. Where were you able to see this doctor? I have cervical issues that caused fibro as well. I am hanging by a thread with my job

  • @beckycarpenter9771
    @beckycarpenter9771 Před 5 lety +2

    I have fibromyalgia my father has parkinsons disease.
    I have hypermobility, micro vascual angina, disc degenerative in my neck and lower back, my sleep is poor, bruxism, restless leg, pstd

  • @amilie15
    @amilie15 Před 3 lety +1

    Has any study been done now to check the MRI research results against normal healthy subjects? And what’s the treatment for this if you have it?
    Would love to know, can’t see any further trials on pubmed.

  • @Vaflnana
    @Vaflnana Před 12 lety +1

    VERY enlightening! The Benign Hypermobility - (Have FMS) . I have flat feet, knee pain, occas. plantar fasciitis.... but can't touch toes or even kneel with rear to heels... Could this be caused by trigger points (from FMS pain) causing myofascial pain with muscle shortening and stiffness? Also, will treating obstructive sleep apnea with CPAP also treat the alpha intrusion into delta sleep? Where can someone with neck pain get an extension MRI? Thanks again! Wish my docs would see this!

  • @craigwalkerdc
    @craigwalkerdc Před 10 lety +2

    This is exactly what we NSA chiropractors work with. Great research.

  • @rosedennis3407
    @rosedennis3407 Před 2 lety

    Hello, Im a 70 year old female living in Essex UK and suffer frim Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis which I feel are a problem of central neurological system, Im lucky if I get 4 hours sleep any night for years. sleeplessness is a really damaging problem to my general and mental health. Also itching skin, chronic pain, stiff joints, not responsive to tablet meds.
    Brain fog, fatique, pain from head to toes, fingers, wrists. Its like an attack on my whole body
    My mobility is affected, gait Ive had so many falls and subsequent injuries because of these falls. 🙏

  • @lindamarsh6711
    @lindamarsh6711 Před 3 lety +1

    Is there anything more recent than this study. I’ve been suffering for 30 years with Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue. I could really use an update. Any information out there?

  • @j.mcconnell5260
    @j.mcconnell5260 Před 2 lety

    TARLOV CYST DISEASE answers all questions. The ultimate unified theory.

  • @sarahj734
    @sarahj734 Před 2 lety

    I've had neck pain for about 15yrs but got very bad recently have problem turning head and looking up and down for any length of time..I also get the jaw cracking ...

  • @christybanks6038
    @christybanks6038 Před 5 lety +3

    I was diagnosed this year with Fibromyalgia, but have been suffering for 3 years. Does anyone else have heart palpitations and high blood pressure issues?

    • @MrTimo1124
      @MrTimo1124 Před 4 lety

      Christy yea I do. It's probably because your spinal cord is being irritated and disrupting your autonomic nervous system as Dr. Holman mentioned. There are so many possible causes.
      For me I suffered for 4 years until recently figuring out the top bone in my neck (atlas bone) was out of alignment and squeezing my spinal cord and brain stem, activating my ANS while I slept. An orthospinologist chiropractor can fix this - you don't need surgery, or a referral to see them. There are only a few hundred of these specialists in the USA, so just look them up. It's also called Upper Cervical care, or atlas orthogonal treatment. It will change your life

    • @winniehernandez2805
      @winniehernandez2805 Před 3 lety

      I do. HBP, Hashimotos, cervical spondylosis, Fibro, grind my teeth,

  • @evegreen7604
    @evegreen7604 Před rokem

    I have fibromyalgia and now it’s getting worse I can’t walk far distances without severe leg pain back pain

  • @johmarie7
    @johmarie7 Před 10 lety +2

    Is there a study about the frequency of Fibromalysia in MS families? Maybe there are two groups of fibro patients. The mainly pain group and the mainly fatigue-migrene-RLS group. But then there are not many studies on fibro all together. Its just so much easier to call it hypochondia and psychologically illnes. After all doctors hate these patiens because they make them feel like they fail, because nobody can help you if you hav fibra. Even as a child I alsways said: if you are severely ill nobody can help you.

    • @craigwalkerdc
      @craigwalkerdc Před 10 lety +3

      I don't agree Kristina. I'm helping people all day every day with fibromyalgia and other "serious" illnesses that frustrate other doctors. We're out here, you just have to keep looking.

    • @gulsumdurmaz1272
      @gulsumdurmaz1272 Před 2 lety

      @@craigwalkerdc Siz doktormusunuz?
      Ben, bana yardım edebilecek doktoru 35 yıl sora buldum. Öyle kolay değil. İnanmıyorlar bize.
      Yorgunluğa karşı gelmekten yoruldum.

  • @cindysandbeck2447
    @cindysandbeck2447 Před 2 lety

    I've had pituitary tumor removal long ago, 1983, I suffer daily with myalgia, and twenty other things, chronic Pain.could this be from pituitary scarring??? I need relief such spinal issues, failed fusion low back. No pain meds in Minnesota, like the docs have been threatened. No help

  • @fibrosmack5899
    @fibrosmack5899 Před 8 lety +1

    ..I mean great lecture , thanks.

  • @KarenRobins1
    @KarenRobins1 Před 12 lety

    well done dr holman the legal groups need to listen to this.

  • @ShanonT12
    @ShanonT12 Před 3 lety +1

    Cervical is not Cervix. As a woman, when I hear cervical I think Cervix. Now that's FUNNY.
    BTW....Fabulous talk. Nice job. Yes, I have fibro along with other idiopathic stuff.

  • @somcana
    @somcana Před 2 lety

    11 years ago and this research is not applied 😢

  • @lindajakub624
    @lindajakub624 Před 3 lety +2

    Very confusing to me.

  • @howtheuniversedoesntwork3232

    Interesting stuff, esp the sleep stuff, which any sufferer with flairs will attest to. But as a Fibro sufferer whose up to date on 2022 studies, a lot of this is non applicable or superfluous. I mean both medically and anecdotally. Pathologically speaking, the neuroimmune/inflammation and endocrinological causality narratives are the prominent (and most revered as in line with self reporting) these days.
    The hypermobility, tender/trigger point stuff is not aligned at all en mass.
    So just take this video as another insight into how complex and multi pronged the causes and symptons are, albeit a great one for 2007.

  • @lindajakub624
    @lindajakub624 Před 3 lety +1

    Marijuana should help. Right?

  • @maganbhai8643
    @maganbhai8643 Před 5 lety

    Cerebral spinal fluid leaks and tarlov cyst in the sacrum, That's F.M. in every case ,it has to be that way. Can't feel it, that it's speciality stealth. Won't show on imaging,tarlov will but never does because only 5 doctors know the proper technique for the m.r.i. they don't publicize it. , Tarlov-cyst in the sacrum answer's all questions

  • @debrakellerman7364
    @debrakellerman7364 Před 4 lety +1

    "running from the lion". Yep

  • @IndianaNana1
    @IndianaNana1 Před 8 lety +1

    I have fibromyalgia and neurocardiogenic syncope.

    • @crystalhall5662
      @crystalhall5662 Před 6 lety

      Pam Fech does that mean your heart stops or skips a beat or ? How was this diagnosed?

  • @danashannon8234
    @danashannon8234 Před 4 lety +2

    I hate living with this. People are not trying to help much anymore. Who really knows what is causing the severe pain?? Treatment does no good and they have taken away our pain medication now.

  • @honerdcouster8723
    @honerdcouster8723 Před 3 lety

    Sacral tarlov cyst disease = FM