A Better Way To Gasket Match

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  • čas přidán 5. 01. 2022
  • This is the most common way I gasket match heads. Yes I know it should be port matched.
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Komentáře • 121

  • @thomasaltruda
    @thomasaltruda Před rokem +4

    I used to gasket match by putting the gasket on the heads with two tiny spots of silicone. Then I put the manifold on with four tiny drops of silicone. Tighten it all up, let it dry and the gasket will come off stuck to the manifold. You can then scribe the lines, and remove the gasket. If you are careful with the placement of the silicone, you can still reuse the gasket too.

  • @DuneWest
    @DuneWest Před 2 lety +8

    By the way Eric, David Vizard made mention of your name and very nice comment about your work/research on one of his CZcams videos; "Super detailed AFR BB Chevy 'Enforcer' head review" on November 29, 2021 at about 1:98 on the video. I'd say that's quite an honorable/respectful mention about you coming from someone like David Vizard.

  • @borismcfinnigan3430
    @borismcfinnigan3430 Před rokem

    Thank you. You have given me the confidence to tackle my inlet manifold and gasket. I put a camera down the middle runners and noticed that the gasket overlaps the ports by 1/4 inch on 3 sides

  • @kennethhacker1341
    @kennethhacker1341 Před 2 lety

    Wow !! Great job and thanks for the education..I did alot of marine engines and would alway gasket match..love this.

  • @DuneWest
    @DuneWest Před 2 lety +6

    Hmmm.....those heads kinda look a little familiar to me ;) ---anyway, very nice and very detailed work, and cool way of accurately port matching the runner flanges, Eric. I really like your attention to detail.

  • @patcavanagh2874
    @patcavanagh2874 Před 2 lety

    Good stuff Eric…I always wondered how to do this precisely.

  • @rexwarren4497
    @rexwarren4497 Před 2 lety +1

    Always learn more from you thank you nicely done

  • @LOLedWh0r3
    @LOLedWh0r3 Před 2 lety

    I am very new to this porting and polishing scene, but I use duct tape to cover and give a little protection to my cast iron head surface areas. Its not perfect but it helps me a lot but I'm using a dremel so its a lot slower. Hope this helps.

  • @63turbo
    @63turbo Před 2 lety +2

    I talked to an engine builder in the 1980's about gasket and port matching... he said they had actually bothered to test that and found the average airflow gain was 3% per mismatch, and Im sure that had alot to do with production tolerances then, without saying whether it was the gasket or the manifold to head miss match or a combination. It looks like the stuff you are working with are held to a tigher tolerance!!

  • @robtdougherty
    @robtdougherty Před 2 lety +1

    I was going to say 0.012"! great vid. My first engine i tried to mark the head and intake with a sharpie for front to back alignment. Lets just say, i bet your way is more accurate haha

  • @brianbrigg57
    @brianbrigg57 Před rokem

    Looks like a good technique to use. Thanks.

  • @jaredstafford5565
    @jaredstafford5565 Před 2 lety

    Hey there Eric love the videos very informative 👍. I have a question if you weren't to port match these heads and intake what type if horsepower and torque would you be loosing? Just a rough estimate.

  • @tomrose6292
    @tomrose6292 Před rokem

    Eric I did the same thing to my head( iron wp) it wasn't but 5 tho .I ran it with 13.7 to 1 pistons and so far so good I've been watching the compression on that hole.
    I guess the gasket took care of it..
    Ole ridge runner race truck if ya wanna hear it run 95 s10

  • @ehgwrks
    @ehgwrks Před rokem

    I love your channel man, it's like @theovon is teaching me airflow 💙💙💙💙🏎💨💙💙💙

  • @dennislabby801
    @dennislabby801 Před 2 lety

    Eric you ever get a set of aftermarket aluminum heads that there is step valve guides leaving a gap between them and the aluminum in the bowls. Should I change them out or grind the aluminum to match or just leave alone

  • @charliesullivan3204
    @charliesullivan3204 Před 2 lety

    Do you predrill the holes in the intake, first and then put on the head? I think it may help from drilling into the head. I do like your idea. Thank you!

  • @DevastationMtrsports
    @DevastationMtrsports Před 2 lety

    I'm just curious if you could talk about the intake manifold more and why you like it so much

  • @albertgaspar627
    @albertgaspar627 Před 2 lety +4

    Great video, but i recommend not making it a habit to leave things in the lifter valley--that's how debris happens :) of course, this block is toast, but i know plenty of shade tree mechanics don't have a tray nearby so they just leave stuff where they can out of laziness training. just sayin that's all. Meanwhile, with this particular full gasket, i'm thinking those bolt holes do a great job of lining things up without drilling a potential crack starter near a bolt area that's going to get torqued down, and being a full gasket one can outline where the top of the manifold sits, allowing it to be lined up on installation--or a location to take measurements from. sometimes you might just be able to scribe the head with an outline of the intake flange, or paint if you fear carving.

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před 2 lety +1

      This is just a mock up block hence the hole in the side. I’m not worried about things in lifter valley. I leave them there so I can have them handy when I need them.

  • @accooper793
    @accooper793 Před rokem

    I have always put the gasket and intake on take small drill bit drill thrugh both take back off you can see how much your off then go from there. Might be wrong way to it

  • @bigbearvenom6145
    @bigbearvenom6145 Před 2 lety +11

    Eric does the step of .035 actually benefit with reversion to aid in horse power production ? Or if you port match perfectly will it hurt the production of horse power where it would be actually noticeable at the track through the traps, or on a dyno where it could show as a recordable event?

    • @uncleTedLol
      @uncleTedLol Před 2 lety +2

      Also curious. I would have assumed that straight airflow would be beneficial for velocity and flow, but in cylinder its all turbulence in the end anyways? Assuming mixture is equal.
      I wouldn't imagine a .035 would create much in much of anything in terms of actual airflow disruption except on boundary layers

    • @bigbearvenom6145
      @bigbearvenom6145 Před 2 lety +1

      @@uncleTedLol yeah I hope he could come back on a reply to this one. Whether or not this would be a real extreme difference be noticeable at all in mph, or elapsed times.

  • @timrayburn2461
    @timrayburn2461 Před 2 lety

    Great tips,thanks

  • @dakotatelles3483
    @dakotatelles3483 Před rokem

    Had anyone use that intake b4 building my first bbc and idk if I should get that intake or a Edelbrock Victor rj intake

  • @VictorSanchez-kp9nt
    @VictorSanchez-kp9nt Před 2 lety

    Great video awesome tips can this be done with the heads off the engine? Might be a balancing act. Oh wait the head gaskets have an affect on things?

  • @brentonk461
    @brentonk461 Před 2 lety +5

    While I'm not against drilling for dowels, as the Holden 253/308's I own come like it standard, from the factory. but on other Engines, The way I do the Port Matching, ethier the left or right head or gasket fits, lines up perfect. No Drilling required.

  • @MattPureEvil
    @MattPureEvil Před 2 lety

    Hey mate, you have some great content. With this, will there be much of a power gain?

  • @BigThomTattoos
    @BigThomTattoos Před rokem

    What would be your process if you were going to port the heads too? I am about to port the stock heads and Edelbrock Air Gap for my Dodge 360 Magnum.

  • @hotrod7938
    @hotrod7938 Před rokem

    Drill bit technique brilliant 👍

  • @marcstlaurent3719
    @marcstlaurent3719 Před 2 lety

    Great info , thanks eric

  • @prettyvacant2729
    @prettyvacant2729 Před rokem

    Shoulda watched this before I assembled the engine :( Great advice and shows simple is normally best.

  • @YerkitRacingChannel
    @YerkitRacingChannel Před 2 lety

    Good info as always!

  • @shanerorko8076
    @shanerorko8076 Před 2 lety

    You should buy some 1/8 gauge stock and cut up some pins.
    The chamber softening helps most on the big side anyway.

  • @tomstrum6259
    @tomstrum6259 Před rokem

    Hmm...As long as the Gasket & Head port Opening perimeter is Larger than the Manifold port opening, what possible dyno power test improvement can precision port matching improve other than Reducing desirable port anti-reversion effects ??

  • @mekanicn7778
    @mekanicn7778 Před 2 lety

    cool idea. i will try this and might try 1/8th welding rod after i drill the 1/8th inch holes.

  • @GroovesAndLands
    @GroovesAndLands Před rokem +1

    My method:
    Duct tape a 44oz foam fountain drink container onto the end of your shop-vac hose, and seal the drink cup into the cylinder of the block so the shopvac can suck on the cylinder. Have exhaust valve installed, but not intake valve. Turn on shopvac and spray a bit of paint primer down the intake runner for the cylinder you are "marking". Resposition shopvac and repeat for all cylinders. This will mark where your head ports are misaligned with the intake. Grind as needed.

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před rokem +1

      Not a bad idea.

    • @randywl8925
      @randywl8925 Před rokem

      Just Don't spray very much paint because shop vacs have a tendency to use electricity. 😁
      💥 Kaboom! 💥

  • @daleanderson7629
    @daleanderson7629 Před 2 lety

    have you ever tried lightly misting dichrome down the port? love the video's mate.

  • @davidcooper2856
    @davidcooper2856 Před 2 lety +3

    Block decked, heads milled: Layout dye along top of ports. Straight edge along top of ports. Scribe line to each end of head. Do same to manifold. Align scribed lines at each end of head to check for misalignment.

  • @carlw.pfaender9208
    @carlw.pfaender9208 Před 2 lety

    Great tips

  • @bigredracer7848
    @bigredracer7848 Před 2 lety

    15👍's up EW thanks for sharing

  • @xozindustries7451
    @xozindustries7451 Před 2 lety +8

    Have you ever done before and after dyno testing on a port matching job? I’m just wondering how much power it’s worth, considering how little work it is any power is worth it

    • @slowbra94
      @slowbra94 Před 7 měsíci

      Its definitely not little work porting 😂 maybe just gasket matching but i spent over an hour opening up 1 intake runner on just the lower intake

  • @lancegibbs7506
    @lancegibbs7506 Před 2 lety

    Can I ask for a link to order the blue die?

  • @hectorortega9131
    @hectorortega9131 Před rokem

    That 13th,000 scratch on the deck of the head can you run it like that or do you need to reface it?

  • @boharris8179
    @boharris8179 Před 2 lety

    Aka Team G intake. Correct me if I'm wrong. At least the sbc version is nearly identical to the old team G. Maybe the plenum is higher idk I've not seen that many but for the most part it's a name change.

  • @1961Bullet
    @1961Bullet Před rokem

    I don’t trust many, but I trust you. Thanks for being honest. I watched to th end.

  • @randywelch55
    @randywelch55 Před 2 lety +1

    Very informative videos. Don't pay any attention to those keyboard trolls

  • @UltimateDriftMachine
    @UltimateDriftMachine Před 2 lety +1

    How much power does gasket matching make if you do both intake and exhaust on an application like this. Seems typical amount. I do this to engines when ever I have to swap a head. I always got people telling me I am wasting my time and I will barely feel a difference if at all.
    So, am I wasting my time.

  • @jalbarado1
    @jalbarado1 Před 2 lety +1

    Why does the version 2 have less flow.... 🤣🤣🤣... you knew that was coming...and don't ask me how I know....🤣🤣🤣....but, keep up the content, we enjoy it.😊

  • @bdugle1
    @bdugle1 Před 2 lety +1

    Just wondering, could you use some kind of inspection camera to help with port matching? I don’t even know what they cost… Those boat engines look like you could really burn some fuel! I’ve seen a few running up and down Lake Havasu, impressive rooster tails!

    • @timothybayliss6680
      @timothybayliss6680 Před 2 lety

      There is some really cheap scopes available. Some under $100. If you were scouting stuff in a junkyard it can help find issues making sure all the pistons are home. If you were trying to port match a dual plane it would be a neat idea.

  • @1967davethewave
    @1967davethewave Před rokem

    That's a great technique. An old timer racer taught me 30+ years ago to put a couple spots of grease on the heads, lay the gaskets down and then put some RTV on the intake, set it on, torque it down and let it set overnight. Pull it off the next day and of course the gaskets stick to the intake. Gasket match from there. Of course this was on Pontiac engines so the intake is pulled into the thermostat crossover so there is no back and forth adjustment available. That method worked pretty well but occasionally the grease would allow the gaskets to slip a little. I think I'll start using your method as it seems to be very repeatable when you have to do a tear down for whatever reason. Thanks!

  • @autotek7930
    @autotek7930 Před rokem

    Gasket matching my jeep 4.7l stroker will help? I planned on doing the throttle body and intake.

  • @jarmominkkinen9409
    @jarmominkkinen9409 Před 2 lety

    Hello master. How many house power can I get I have the ports flows 312 cfm.Thes Heads com from super stocker.Wedge Alu Heads Mopar 440. 0600 lift.Have Nice Wedge Tunnel Ram intake.Sixpacks modifaid have even Billet metring block special order från USA.Engine runns grate.Weery god respons on The trotel like Efi..I hope i have araund 620 630 hp...I have even Fogger Nos system.Gonne handel with wery smal nr 018 022. Mayby hit 700hp.

  • @ArthurSperotto
    @ArthurSperotto Před rokem

    How the hell does someone window a block like that IDLING?? Hydrolock?
    Man, fantastic information!! Thank you very much for the ideas!

  • @forreststewart8309
    @forreststewart8309 Před 2 lety

    Hey Eric, on a dual plane manifold, like this 2701, how do you know if the ports are lined up the best they be?

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před 2 lety

      I usually just center the bolt holes on dual planes. Then I tighten it down and drill the holes.

    • @joeprichard3674
      @joeprichard3674 Před rokem

      An inspection camera that plugs into your cell phone can be had for less than 20 bucks on Amazon, would be handy for this.

  • @patrickwendling6759
    @patrickwendling6759 Před 2 lety

    Ignore those negative people, some people are just negative no mater what you do or say, 1 out of 20 you just can't help, screw em

  • @bluegizmo1983
    @bluegizmo1983 Před rokem

    Yeah but do you even gain anything by port matching when such a small amount of material even needs to be remove? I can see doing that if there is a 3mm or 4mm overlap, but when it's already like 2mm or less like that, is it even worth it?

  • @rudyjhughes
    @rudyjhughes Před rokem

    Couldn’t you have tig welded that small area and did a minimum cut?

  • @combat1878
    @combat1878 Před rokem

    I layout mine the exact same way 👍

  • @theoriginalmungaman
    @theoriginalmungaman Před 2 lety

    Ridiculous! Hows eye balling the ports through the intake work with a dual plane? I would trace the intake on the gasket with a sharpie before drilling holes in my intake!

  • @michaelgrubbs1618
    @michaelgrubbs1618 Před 2 lety

    just curious. Why wouldn't you Center the bolt holes in the gasket with the bolt holes in the head?

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před 2 lety

      Because when you center off of the bolt holes it rarely places the intake port in the right relation to the port on the head.

  • @richdouche8253
    @richdouche8253 Před rokem

    Seen one vid where guy said the critical part of the port to match was the floor, and he used intake gasket thickness to achieve this alignment. Said unless ports are far off from each other there isn't any gain by grinding....
    Not having a Dyno and multiple test pieces I'll never know the truth to his statements.

  • @LynnTwinCustoms513
    @LynnTwinCustoms513 Před 2 lety +1

    James Bond says .007 to clean up the head mistake

  • @MicheluceRizzuto
    @MicheluceRizzuto Před 2 lety +1

    Sometimes the simplest solution to solve a problem is in your face and a smart person might not even realize it. I've thought of ideas to solve my port and gasket matching issues for quite some time now on my small block stroker. I've never thought of this easy and simple way of taking care of matching and I consider myself a fairly logical and smart person. I've even done this practice before for re-mounting my body panels after lining them up and removing them for painting. They always go back to line up perfectly upon re-installing them. Never thought of using this to match ports.

  • @williampommeranz6821
    @williampommeranz6821 Před 2 lety

    An idea for the perfectionists amoung us. You can use a cheap Harbor Freight inspection camera ($85) to get a look at the final assembly (for dual plane manifolds).
    No, I wouldn't buy one for port matching, but you will not be sorry having one in the shop. Use you imagination the number of uses.
    Not being critical...... just an idea.

  • @stoneyswolf
    @stoneyswolf Před 7 měsíci

    You could of just traced around the intake marking the gasket. Also the bolt holes lined up perfectly with the gasket.

  • @marcjordan29
    @marcjordan29 Před 2 lety

    Awesome tips. But... Drivers side on a boat....? Or car..... ? 😜. Center console..? That you know what the note means to you is whats important. Just Joking around a lil bit.

  • @davidwickboldt712
    @davidwickboldt712 Před 2 lety

    Just curious as to why you don't use a steel template with tapered drift pins, and match head, gaskets, and manifold to.

  • @aaronwlkr
    @aaronwlkr Před 2 lety

    Dam I was going to guess .020

  • @califuturist
    @califuturist Před 5 měsíci

    My take on this video is that the intake manifold/gasket match is done at the factory and the head/gasket match is not. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @rickkelsch2040
    @rickkelsch2040 Před 2 lety +1

    .010" deep

  • @bennyboyy7
    @bennyboyy7 Před 11 měsíci

    Heh you said you were gonna write on his head.

  • @ScottNelson01
    @ScottNelson01 Před 2 lety +2

    Why not just tig the head and machine the repair rather than machine it to remove the gouge?

  • @Nobody-ld7mk
    @Nobody-ld7mk Před 2 lety +2

    Why not just tape the gaskets to the head like you do... then with the tape properly located where it can be pulled loose from the head later place several BB size droplets of silicone strategically on the frog tape to manifold points and let dry for an hour or two. The Gaskets will stick to the manifold perfectally in place and no harm done to the gasket being the tape is where the silicone has made contact. No holes necessary. Cool how you did it but a little more work than necessary in my opnion and all the time drilling could be spent elsewhare while the silicone dries.

    • @ictcarguy3162
      @ictcarguy3162 Před 2 lety

      @Nobody How could you know the position of the intake relative to the cylinder head without a locator that controls for X and Y position? The suggested alternate method only controls the gasket alignment thus less control of port alignment and is not repeatable if the gaskets required replacement. If the motor was ever torn down and assembled it could introduce variance as each part has its own manufacturing and installation/assembly tolerance. The tolerances could stack causing error of port alignment which the 'dowel' method can identify, measure, and control as well as being repeatable.

    • @Nobody-ld7mk
      @Nobody-ld7mk Před 2 lety +1

      @@ictcarguy3162 First locate the intake gasket to the head as shown in the video, sit the intake on with silicone properly placed then lift the intake off with gaskets stuck to the intake after the silicone has dried. (then scribe) No need to make to much of it.

  • @roadiesgarage3816
    @roadiesgarage3816 Před 2 lety

    .015" deep

  • @zAvAvAz
    @zAvAvAz Před 2 lety

    28 thou to get the gouge out

  • @bigbearvenom6145
    @bigbearvenom6145 Před 2 lety

    .015 - .020 on head gouge.

  • @rogerowens5669
    @rogerowens5669 Před 2 lety

    So basically you're just pinning the gasket and intake in place

  • @ShaunHensley
    @ShaunHensley Před rokem

    I am guessing .012
    Edit wow that was close if I do say so myself

  • @CLAYTONTHEBRAIN
    @CLAYTONTHEBRAIN Před 2 lety

    .010 - .015 deep

  • @TheDeadMan3848
    @TheDeadMan3848 Před 2 lety +2

    Don’t gasket match the manifold! You lose velocity. Only port match the head where you have an obstruction of flow from the manifold.
    Rookie mistake, which it seems some of the so called “Professionals” are doing as well... 🙄

  • @frediefarmer
    @frediefarmer Před 2 lety

    👍🏽🇺🇸👍🏽

  • @ronbradshaw7404
    @ronbradshaw7404 Před 2 lety

    Nice but, have you ever heard about dowel pins?................

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před 2 lety

      Can you explain to me how you install the intake with the dowels installed in the heads or intake?

    • @ronbradshaw7404
      @ronbradshaw7404 Před 2 lety

      @@WeingartnerRacing The Japanese small engines manf., like to have dowel pins on head/ intake studs or bolts. That's the best of the best. Your idea of drilling small holes is similar, only needs small hardened pins. I did that a lot, only with straight drilled, holes, and leave the pins there in final assembly.

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před 2 lety

      @@ronbradshaw7404 with the v formation of the heads and intake you would have to pull dowels each time the intake went on or off. It seems like that would be a pain.

    • @ronbradshaw7404
      @ronbradshaw7404 Před 2 lety +1

      @@WeingartnerRacing Ohhh! certainly right you are!!!. I should shut-up :) i'm into Japanese motorcycle/ snowmobile engines, no V engines...

  • @Anarchy-Is-Liberty
    @Anarchy-Is-Liberty Před 2 lety

    "it's only going to be an 800hp engine" - ROFLMFAO!!!! Christ!! Only 800hp? Is that all? Might as well toss it in the trash FFS! ha ha ha!!!!
    If y'all got any 800hp engines laying around that you don't want, I'll come take 'em off your hands, no problem!! ha ha ha ;)

  • @sxs4l245
    @sxs4l245 Před 2 lety

    I know why....
    CHINA

  • @jackbrookshire431
    @jackbrookshire431 Před 2 lety +1

    Useless. Just use the bolt holes. They're already there.

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před 2 lety

      Those rarely line up.

    • @jackbrookshire431
      @jackbrookshire431 Před 2 lety

      @@WeingartnerRacing when you have the heads and intake you're going to use. That's the holes that you will use. Using the gasket on both, you have a foolproof why to make your marks.

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před 2 lety +1

      @@jackbrookshire431 that sounds great but when you put them on a block you realize the bolt holes on the intake are higher than the head or visa versa. Then your port match might be the same size and dimensions as the head but not aligned at all. That happens all the time.

    • @jackbrookshire431
      @jackbrookshire431 Před 2 lety

      @@WeingartnerRacing your bolt holes will dictate where the gasket goes. You can't get around that. Any discrepancies after the port work you're going to see with your scope.

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před 2 lety +4

      None of the manifolds have a 3/8 snug fit hole. They are 1/2 or larger which gives plenty of movement up down and all around. They do this to make up for deck differences and so on. So if you gasket matched the intake lining up the bolt holes on the intake to the gasket then attached it to the head unless the bolt hole is exactly centered on the head your alignment is off. The bolt hole on the head is rarely if ever centered with the hole on the intake, especially if the heads were milled.

  • @kevinclemence4661
    @kevinclemence4661 Před 2 lety +1

    Dear Eric. Please don't use a whiney voice when describing a viewer's comments. It's somewhat demeaning and very Freiburger. Otherwise, a great vid as is usual.

  • @josephmcclure6680
    @josephmcclure6680 Před rokem

    "Commoners "...You need to work on you attitude!

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před rokem

      What are you talking about?

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  Před rokem +1

      If that offended you I’m sorry. I didn’t think there was anything controversial in this video but I can see that I was wrong.

  • @westendcages
    @westendcages Před 2 lety

    Good tips.