How to choose the best adventure boots or dual sport boots!︱Cross Training Adventure
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- crosstrainingenduro.com Eight tips for buying the best dual sport and adventure boots! The most important thing? Ignore all the so called reviews and comparisons. These comparisons are almost always from retailers who will favour the boots they make the most money from. And so many alleged reviews are from social media influencers given free shit if they will say good things about it. Or even paid money to do the review. The most important factors for dual sport boots:
Protection v comfort (include weight), Riding style & terrain, The stress test, Hinged ankle pivot, Longevity/quality, Stitched or glued sole, Waterproof?, Height, Try before you buy/sizing. Okay. How to buy the best dual sport and adventure boots.And of course decent materials mean it's less likely the boot will wear through with a big slide down the road. Stress test your adventure boots! Think of some worst case scenarios. Your bike slides out and crushes your foot or twists your ankle. A stump or large rock tries to bend your foot under the footpeg. A car rams your leg, or a log in high grass whacks you in the shin. Here are the main points you want protection: your shin, toes, ankle and heel. The heavier and more solid the construction, the more protected you will be, this includes the sole, which ideally should be stitched on, not just glued. Protection versus comfort, and how to choose the best adventure boots. You get what you pay for with dual sport boots. If you spend enough you can get a good mix of decent protection and comfort. But there's always a compromise. Very little on the $300 boots. The pivot point on the mx boots allows some movement but then it locks solid to prevent injury. Shin protection for dual sport boots. Almost non-existent for the road boots. A bit better on the budget boots. The best protection means a heavier boot. And it won't be so comfortable to walk in. We tried some stress tests on generic road boots, a budget pair of adventure boots, a $300 pair of adventure boots, and the best quality motocross boots. The toe cup on adventure boots. Easily crushed on the road boots, marginally better on the budget adventure boots, slightly better again on the $300 boots, very little movement on the quality motocross boots. Lateral ankle protection when looking at how to choose the best dual sport and adventure boots. Poor on the road boots. Next to none on the budget boots. Very poor on the $300 boots. A real effort to get any flex at all on the motocross boots. Forward and rear flexion. Laughable on the budget boots. No improvement on the more expensive boots. Rock solid on the quality motocross boots. There are more tests of course but you get the picture. Also don't assume all motocross boots provide good protection, once you wear them in, cheap motocross boots are next to useless, check out this pair of Scott boots. So what sort of terrain do you ride in? Dual sport or advneture riding? You do the math. When we researched enduro boots, there was clear link between cost, country of manufacture, and overall quality and longevity. Italian made boots are usually the best. Made elsewhere in Europe is next. After that, it's usually Asian countries, with China at the bottom of the pile. But don't take our word for it, do your own research. And how aggressively? If you just cruise along dirt roads and highways, and don't want to clump your into cafes like Frankenstein, then comfort will be more important than protection. We have even done a video with suggestions about how to effectively research motorbike products. What else? Do you want waterproof boots? Do lots of research. Some boots claim to be waterproof but leak after a few rides. Others don't claim to be waterproof but are. Go figure. The height of the boot. If you use knee guards or braces then they will anchor nicely into tall boots. They will stay drier if you put your feet down in a creek crossing. If you want to look a bit more normal when walking around in public, consider wearing OTB pants, or over the boot pants. But if you spend a lot of time off road and enjoy some gnarly or aggressive riding at times, you really should focus on protection. If you do decide on motocross boots, see our guide based on the feedback of hundreds of riders. Next, the hinged ankle pivot point. Very few adventure boots have this. In fact a lot of motocross boots don't have it either. But if you are very serious about the best protection, we encourage you to consider this for your boots. It allows movement for walking, but prevents too much hyper or hypoflexion of the ankle. Longevity and quality. Most experienced riders will tell you cheap boots cost more in the long run. Along with the shitty protection, it's false economy. Cheap boots might last two years, the best quality ones may go for 10 years.
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MY PICK FOR THE BEST ADVENTURE BOOTS? When it comes to quality, I would suggest looking at Gaerne, Forma and Sidi in that order. An indepth look at the quality of enduro boots found these were the top three as rated by hundreds of riders, I suspect adventure boots are going to be very similar. If you have bucketloads of cash, Daytona still make their adventure boots in Germany but they don't seem to do a model with really serious protection.
As discussed in the vid, for full protection the only real option is a quality pair of motocross boots. However, it may also be worth looking at the motocross boots in the top brands which aren't quite so protective e.g. Gaerne Fastback, Forma Terrain (or Boulder), and Sidi X3.
I am sure there are exceptions, but generally once you get into other brands you are looking at boots mostly made in China or elsewhere in southeast Asia and the quality drops accordingly. I am not sponsored by anyone, I buy my own boots. Keen to hear your opinions....
Forma Terrain TX's are excellent mid tier boots for the price. Even have that hinged ankle you're keen on. They squeak pretty bad when walking but it's not their job to be sexy.
Mine paid for themselves a couple days ago when a fist sized rock flew off a oncoming trailer on the highway and clocked me in the inside of the right foot. Deflected off my boot with enough force to clear the roadside ditch and keep going into the field beyond that. Uncomfortable buzzing in my foot for the next forty miles, but after getting home and dismounting there was only some light bruising. Very glad that I didn't wear my TCX Rush WP's on that particular jaunt.
They've also survived a couple of road mishaps with only some superficial scratching. Only thing I'd really remark on it that if you don't have a rubber shifter the start to get wear in the shifter area pretty quickly.
I looked for the boots, the best boots, the Gaerne SG12's cost between 500 to 600USD. Ironically, Wal-Mart is one of the sellers of the best boots in the world... LMAO
Thank you.
Not sure about the USA but SG12s are regularly discounted here... up to 30% off. I got my recent pair for about USD400. Just check the date stamped inside the boot leg though. Sometimes it's old stock which can be up to three years old. Mine were only dated as made nine months ago. Check SG10 boots too. Almost the same but cheaper.
Well.. I wish I could buy a Gaerne or Forma, unfortunately my size is 11.5 and only Sidi boots fits me.
It's not only for riding 'offroad', drove large parts of the TET Scandinavia last summer few drops no harm with soft boots. But made a stupid mistake in Denmark embarking on the ferry to the faeröer Islands (stop over for Iceland) and my left foot got crushed under my KTM 990. On the Faroe Islands it turned out that I had broken my foot in 3 places. And now 7 months later still recovering, probably torn ankle ligament and foot partially crushed as well. All could have been avoided with motocross boots. For the walking part of your trip, take hiking boots with you. I learned the verry hard way.
i'm still wearing my 7 year old Forma adventure boots. started life dual sporting on a DR650, including some stuff they probably werent up to (but, protected me nicely in a couple of spills), now they serve duty as daily commuter boots on a Z400. still great with over the boot pants, and still waterproof after all these years.
Waterproof after seven years... excellent!
Forma Adventure for me too! Totally satisfied!
I have seen more than 100 videos while researching for riding boots. This is the best video I have seen so far explaining all the details.
Glad it was helpful, Arul! Most 'reviews' are just from guys who were given free boots in exchange for telling viewers how great the boots are. 😢
Broke my ankle in BMW "Adventure" boots. Now riding in Alpinestars Tech 10's. Rock-hard to start with but offer superb protection and reasonable comfort. Not waterproof but the insert booties make it easier to dry out.
Excellent explanation 👌
I don't do off road, but when I bought my first boots I tried to protect myself as much as possible and took all these protection factors into consideration...
Going on 5 years with my Forma Terrain boots and they are still strong and comfortable! Excellent investment.
👍Finally, the Lateral test!. Other Product review demonstrations just caress them. Love your laughter bending them.
Sprained ankle low side on pavement with adv boots. Now riding TCX comp evo2 michelin. But liked to have seen and tried them all.
We had a few other tests planned but didn't want to wreck our boots, Brian lol.
I smashed my foot quite badly when I was a kid so I just use my Alpinestars tech 10s for adv riding.They are actually pretty comfortable to wear all day and saved my foot in a recent crash.
Alpinestars Tech 3 for me, first pair of boots for first time dual sport rider. I like them a lot, comfortable enough, and great protection.
Love you riding passion! I'm just getting into off road. I've only ever used steel or composite toe construction boots.
Good vid. I'm currently recovering from a complete achilles tendon rupture done whilst lifting my fallen bike whilst it was fully loaded. I always wear my sidi motocross boots whenever I ride and this is what kept me from surgery. Go with protection every time.
Thanks for the reminder! The past few months I've started riding again after a spine fracture and I've just been wearing my cheapie adv boots because the rides are so easy. But it's time to start wearing my mx boots now as we get into rougher tracks and we are picking up the speed again. Are you expecting a 100% recovery for your leg?
@@crosstrainingadventure Mate good to hear your getting back on after that. But seeing some of the shit you get up to you're gunna get bitten from time to time.
not sure on 100% recovery but expect to be riding a bit in August. they say 12 months to "full recovery".
I have the Alpinestar Belize Oiled Leather Drystar boots. The taller boot. I’ve been in several water crossings with no leaks unless the water is damn deep. Then nothing works. I’ve these boots about 4 years. I love them.
Love the comfort of my Forma boots...that being said, they were barely adequate in a few situations. Ankle is sore but not broken. If I was wearing my SIDI boots I would be walking funny but I wouldn’t have an ankle problem.
I have a pair of forma terra EVO Low boots these boots are awesome they have a very solid toe box, great ankle protection, very solid under foot for long standing rides & they also come with an optional steel front sole guard which is screwed into the front of the sole to protect from of sole. This boot is 100% waterproof (like my Sorel's) these boots do pivot a bit for making hiking of walking around more comfortable. These boots also have a hiking boot waffle like sole for making hiking better. For the $300 I paid for them. Very happy.
Hey Barry, after seeing your previous mx boot videos I've gone with Gaerne's - absolute tanks as far as protection, but at the same time, the ankle hinge gives good feel of the pegs and levers. Not a bad price either for the SG10s! I was shocked to see how many brands have outsourced on important protective gear. You certainly get what you pay for with this stuff.
Glad they are working for you, Ryley. I haven't owned Gaerne yet but these will definitely be my boots once the current ones wear out.
Thanks for this great video, and for sharing your knowledge. The BMW satire was great!
I wear heavy duty boots for everyday use - the same boots the US military wear. No shin protection but fairly good protection for toes, foot and ankle (lateral and longitudinal). I'm old and don't do hardcore off road. My road riding is generally 50 MPH or less on secondary roads. Ir's basically ADV dad bike riding, so my everyday boots are a decent compromise riding boot, although without shin protection for tip overs or low sides that could pin my foot and break my leg above the boot.
They will probably be the same, or even better, than the short adv boots available. There's certainly a lot of freedom with not being loaded up with armour and big boots! If I am just road riding sometimes I'll just wear work boots... but after years of dirt riding it feels weird.
Good video Barry. I ended up buying Forma Adventure boots thanks to this video.
Great to hear, hope they work out for you.
Gaerne boots seem to fit my foot the best. Sg10 is the best I have found but a pita to walk in. Great advice, thank you.
Another vote for the Sidi Adventure - I wanted the ankle pivot. Still like new after about 30,000k. The heel-sole-strike point needs a curve to make walking easier.
i am very happy with these two choices; SIDI Adventure 2 Gore-Tex Boots for the desert rock garden trails, and the Gaerne Balance Oiled Boots for more dirt road like rides :)
Forma adventure Boots for mostly on road with some off road. Gaerne SG12 for more aggressive off road trips. The Formas are much easier to walk in than the Gaerne SG12s. With the Gaerne, if I have to walk any distance at all, I usually have a pair of lightweight shoes to change into. Also, you can undo the top 2 straps on the Gaerne and be able to walk around a little easier. Great info on your channel! Also Barry, you asked me about the Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro and how my friend likes it. I have a review (by him) on my channel if you want to check it out.
Cheers!
Great review! Thanks!
I have the Forma Terra EVO X Series and they seem very solid, especially in term of protecting my shins. The one issue I have found is that the height from base of sole to top of toe box is significant making it difficult to get the toe of the boot under the shift lever, even though I have rotated the shift lever on my BMW F850 GSA up as high as it will go. So I am engaging the shift lever with the lip of the sole as opposed to the top of the toe box and sometimes I fail to actuate a shift. 😬
I really like my Sidi ADV Boots. They are a stiffer almost motocross boot but still have some flex. Granted I have not tried many others but I have had them for 10+ years. Its probably time for new ones... I may re-sole these and use for mostly road rides and then get another set of stiffer ones for off road.
this is the only channel on which i don't skip an adv ;D
Thanks 😁
Absolutely Love my Brown Forma Adventure motorcycle Boots! Very comfortable and love it’s style . Also perfect for what riding I do. Mostly rode but do love exploring gravel back roads, especially in my beloved Banks Pennisula Christchurch NZ 🏍💖
Good to hear Tracy... I must ride NZ one day!
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Tech 7. Very happy with them. Very good protection and if I need to walk a fair bit , I change to other shoes. Can not compromise on safety.
Broke my leg and had to have surgery when my klr fell on me wearing those same boots.
I ride TCX X-Helium Michelin. Very happy with the they are not the hardest boots but they offer enough protection!
I love my O'Neal RDX 2.2 boots! Awesome shin, toe, ankle protection
I had adv boots and did a minor front end wash out on my dr650 going about 5 mph, no time to even think and the beast landed on my leg. My shin, ankle and knee were damaged/bleeding but not broken, got tech 7 enduro drystars and leatt dual axis knee guards, they are breaking in nicely. A friend of mine had his ankle , shin and knee destroyed when his klr landed on his leg on a low speed tipover, he was in bed for 3 months, lots of pins and plates and is kicking himself for wearing construction boots. He will not be able to ride for at least a year. I'm guessing longer seeing the way he winces in pain walking on crutches. A simple good boot would have prevented this. Seems like the slow ones are the ones that get you.
Slow crashes and medium to heavyweight bikes aren't a good mix. 🤔
I have the alpinestars Corazal and they are pretty good I think. Not as stiff as some but for the way I ride I think they will be fine.
My Sidi Crossfires have saved my feet on two distinct occasions (probably many more that I don't realize). The toe and instep protection saved my left foot when I was racing some guys across open desert that had wild grass about 8-10 inches tall. My speed and the grass concealed a dead stump that was tall enough to catch my toe and try to bend it back against the footpeg -- quite like the scenario described in the video. Although my toes slammed into the front to the boot hard enough to bruise two nails (eventually lost the big nail), the boot held strong and it was the stump that broke below the ground. Those boots paid for themselves that day.
About a year later, while riding a friend's 990 on a technical trail, the boots again were worth more than their cost. Coming down a steep hill, I had to "dab" with the right foot as I dropped off a ledge into a gully. A crossbar on the luggage rack landed on my Achilles tendon as the bike's suspension compressed. When I got to the bottom of the hill, I stopped and walked around to make sure nothing was injured. I shudder to think what would have happened had I been wearing inferior protection. The cost of entry may be spendy... but it is pretty cheap insurance for protection. It's like that old Fram Filters commercial, "Pay me now or pay me later."
Oh, and yes... they quite suck to walk around in. And they squeak at the ankle hinge, sounding like I'm gutting a pig, so I can't sneak up on any double lattes at the Starbucks, which is fine.
The dreaded squeaky ankle hinge! Sometimes I'll spray WD40 in there to shut them up for a ride or two lol. Good case studies there, Bill... exactly the situations where most adventure boots just fold up and break bones! I'll wear my cheapie adv boots on a short easy ride if it's just a mix of easy dirt roads and paved roads. Anything serious? It's the proper mx boots!
It's always hard, as everyone has different shaped feet, but I took a chance on the "Forma" adventure boots. Brown. Straight out of the box and in to a 3000 mile trip through Europe. They are like slippers. Comfortable and pretty waterproof.
Not great protection. Broke my fibula in Forma Adventures. Never again off pavement.
@@ckkrons2338 to be fair, they're not Motorcross boots. Like I said, everyone is different, but for light off road and all day wearing and walking around, I found them pretty decent.
@@hedley326 that's fair. As a road boot they are great. Off pavement I'd stick to tame roads and riding pace as I've heard too many ankle and lower leg injuries with them.
Yep I just broke my foot in 3 places wearing the Forma Adventure boots. They are absolute garbage for protection. Sure they’re “comfortable” to walk in but you better hope you don’t need the protection like we needed..
@@armored-clown I guess you never know until it happens. It also depends on your riding style, level of risk? Angle of impact?
I use apline drystar bleze boots low cut .they are really good riding boots if u likes to walk around as much as u ride.they are very comfortable. And adjustable. Plus the oiled brown is a really awesome color
i worn sidi crossfire 2 for greenlaning on my old enduro bike and sidi adventure 2 on my adv bike, both great boots
Sidi X-3. Built like a tank, very stiff, but starting to loosen a bit after 4 years 😏. Ankle pivot hinge allows reasonable walking, and hard stops and rear slide track prevents over-extension or ankle rotation. Excellent protection, not waterproof, extremely durable, still look new when I wash them.
They don't look too different from the Crossfire, Vince. I assume with the cheaper build they've tried to keep the protection up with the added stiffness?
I like sidi adventure boots to me they are just the sidi crossfire just less armour around the toes! I just use my sidi crossfires as they are one of the best boots & comfortable straight out of the box! & you can wear them all day long & walk in them easily
Sidi Crossfire 3. Thirteen years in enduro riding plus 2-3 Hare Scramble races per year and still waiting for them to ware to get a new pair! 😊
Sidi Crossfire 2! I can confidently drop the bike on my ankle, and I can confidently plant my foot without too many ankle worries :) Very, very comfortable right out of the box (I have skinny legs) 👌
I've also stood shin deep in water trying to pickup my T7 for 10 minutes and had very little get in. I was surprised! The SRS version means you can switch the soles because of wear or type of riding. Awesome boots!
Waterproofing seems to be very hit and miss. I remember my first Crossfires would keep water out really well for about two years. My second pair leaked from brand new. Very few boots claim to be waterproof due to this variability.
I love these, O'Neal Sierra WP Pro Boots.
Sidi Crossfire 3 TA's
Fit is amazing. Protection is top notch. Gaerne was my second pick, mostly due to fitment!
I'm glad yours are holding up okay, Patrick. We've noticed a drop in quality in recent years. czcams.com/video/S8JbyhmWGbI/video.html
I have the Sidi Charger. It has a good (squeaky) hinge, protected me well on all hits and crashes, is lighter than the Crossfire with comparable protection. Still not so good to walk around although very comfortable while riding. I have in my backpack ultralight sneakers for the evenings and walk-around. I would wish at times a better sole grip on slippery terrain. The Sidi charger is discontinued, I don't know if the X3 or the Power is the successor.
I have AS Tech 1's - bought super cheap to see if I was going to use them (and the bike etc.) - they are like concrete but I love them. Almost no flex after 30-40 hours trails and (slow AF rookie) MX. When they die, it's Gaerne Fastbacks for me - I did a fair amount of research and I think these will be the best for my needs.
I didn't even know there was a Tech 1, Andrew. Just googled it, it's very cheap. Does it say on the label where they are made?
@@crosstrainingadventure I think they discontinued them a while back - I got them on closeout from FortNine Canada. I'll check the label when I'm back home.
Gaerne sg-12. Have had my current set for 5 years. I ride 1800-2000 miles per season. Northern Michigan single track. Best boots by far. Comfortable foot box. Great ankle protection. Thick shin guard. Tall boot, knee guard tuck in the top. Soles are tough and have very little foot peg ware. One of the best purchases so far to safely an successfully do this sport with out getting injured.
All the guys I ride with use these, I'm just waiting for my current boots to wear out and I'll be aiming for these.
If I am going on known tame dirt roads then I will wear my Forma boots. If I am going to ride dirt roads/ trails that I have never ridden before I will strap on my SIDI crossfire 2 boots. They have stuff all ankle movement so I installed a set of pivot-pegs to help with gear shifting and rear wheel braking.
Thanks for this vid. I have worn out a few sets of Sidi Crossfires. Looking to replace with something that doesn't fail in areas that these do. And hopefully not in other areas as well. One reason I chose these boots is the thin toe from sole to top of the toe. Easier to fit my size 12 foot around. But I don't like how I constantly loose straps and screws. So my last set was my last set. I will give the Gaerne a try now. Cheers
I loctite all those screws and check them regularly but things still go missing, or the plastics pull past the screws then I have to zip tie things together. I appreciate they want parts to be replaceable but I think I prefer how all the other boots do it... permanently fixed together. Sidi certainly seems to have had a lot of quality control issues lately. czcams.com/video/S8JbyhmWGbI/video.html
@@crosstrainingadventure Same same. I do all the same things. Here in Canada they cost a small fortune for those boots. You would think that Sidi could at least spring for some Loctite the first time around. Anyway between that and constantly loosing straps in tight terrain they have lost my business. I do like the pivoting ankle though. I will look for another to replace them. I also only use motorcross boots on adventure bikes. Not losing and straps usually there but do lose screws. And just a side note here is that I couldn't find my motorcross boots one day and used my sport bike boots. Broke my ankle. Ugh.. On the hunt for some of those Gaerne boots now though since this vid. Thanks for showing the votes!
@@crosstrainingadventure Just watched your linked video. Thanks for that. This explains a lot.
I hope Sidi can get their act together... when their boots were all made in Italy they were generally regarded as the equal of Gaerne but a cheaper.
At 4:25 where is that? Looks stunning. I'm new to dirt riding but I've always worn Astars boots just for the overall comfort. I ended up with some white Tech 7's :).
Utah! That footage is courtesy of the Everide channel based in Utah. The Tech 7 boots seem to be very popular in the USA but they have been having issues in a large number of cases, see this vid. czcams.com/video/PFpw8SmUJ9o/video.html
If always been baffled by people dropping 3, 4, even 500 $$ on "adv" boots. They really just seem to be tough looking road boots! Glad someone else has found the same thing. The worst part is, that 300lbs dirtbike won't crush you like your 700 adv bike will.
I was surprised at how little protection there was doing our basic 'stress test'. My brother's $300 pair of adv boots are definitely better made than my cheapies and probably more waterproof, but the protection is about the same. Just after making this vid I checked a few other $300 to $400 adv boots in the store and they were all the same, although occasionally might have a bit more toe cup rigidity or some plastic around the ankels. I'll always go the proper mx boots for a serious adventure ride.
I like the ankle pivot but I have been thinking of using a Danner work boot. I'm not planning on hard single track riding on my bike when it gets here. I haven't even decided on armor yet but will most likely get some good knee protection.
I wear heavy duty boots for everyday use - the same boots the US military wear. No shin protection but fairly good protection for toes, foot and ankle (lateral and longitudinal). I'm old and don't do hardcore off road. My road riding is generally 50 MPH or less on secondary roads. Ir's basically ADV dad bike riding, so my everyday boots are a decent compromise riding boot, although without shin protection for tip overs or low sides that could pin my foot and break my leg above the boot.
I recently bought knee armor pads that I can insert into the knee pad pockets on my 5.11 pants to add some protection for longer ADV camping trips where I'm riding more. No hip protection but the pants are tough and abrasion resistant. Not good for 150 MPH slides on the track, but a reasonable compromise for 50 MPH dad ADV riding.
Get good MC boots.
Hi I wear forma adventure short with gortex pants over the top .
Have Been in rain and all day
Toes cool but still dry 👍.not much offroad at this point 🙄
I'm interested the the Leatt 4.5 Enduro boots. I've been happy with other products from Leatt so I'm wondering if they will suit my needs and last for a 300 dollar boot. Mostly I do light off-road and adventure on a Honda Rally.
Unfortunately their boots are made in China. They haven't been out long enough to get lots of owner feedback but I've had mixed comments so far.
Before reading reviews I went to check out a few boots.
Forma (Italian made) ADV looked to be built with good protection & were reasonable to walk in.
That’s what I bought.
You will occasionally find someone complain about the quality of a Forma boot but it's incredibly rare, Will. If you check the inside label I think you will find they are made in Romania. Like other 'Italian' brands, Forma will loudly proclaim they are based in Italy but the manufacturing occurs elsewhere.
Our "where are your boots made?" video.... czcams.com/video/TRdCDb3dzRg/video.html
Thanks for the information .
Broke my fibula in Forma Adventures, very little protection.. ok street boot, never again off pavement. If you do the video tests you'll find the same.
20 seconds in and im subscribing.
Honestly my $110 O'Neal motocross boots now that they are broken in are the perfect blend of support and flexibility. They were VERY stiff at first, but now have just a bit of give at the ankle. 👍🏻🍻
I hope they work out for you. Unfortunately that sort of boot just gets softer and softer. Whereas quality hinged boots are flexible from day one but won't allow movement past a certain point.
@@crosstrainingadventure yes agreed, I've had them fur around 3 years and they will probably only last maybe one more season I'd say. But hey for basically $100 thats not too bad. I'm planning on some nicer ones next go round. 👍🏻
I'm currently trying to pick between the Sidi adventure, the Alpine Tucan and the Klim adventure GTX
Hi Spencer! Were you able to finalize on the boot between the options you had mentioned? BTW, did you try the Gaerne Dakar?
Redback Terras, soldiers may not like that they're stiffer than other combat boots, but that makes them good for riding.
I’ve been running a pair of Alpinstars tech7’s for the last 6 years. I paid $350US. They have great protection and durability but feet get wet easily. The smell is great too.
When I was researching mx boots on the other channel a lot of guys said they smell terrible once they are wet!
They make a waterproof/resistant one now.
Gaerne are fantastic. I like the new Gaerne Fastback Enduro.
No matter what you wear, I’d recommend having the buckles clipped in 05:32
Argh I know, Ronan! I just popped the boots on quickly to ride down the road and back to film this... obviously didn't pay proper attention to doing the boots up!
Love gaerne
I absolutely love my Sidi Adventure gortex boots. And for just over $300 USD from the UK is hard to beet.
sidi adventure. love em as thy keep me mobile on foot. but offer minimum of protection. including the hinge and on top its GoreTex.
I own both Garene and Forma. Really wish the Forma had the Garene buckles because those are brilliant.
Recommendation > Alpine-Star TECH 7 great buckle system/very light/great protection etc suggest always go one size higher as your feet tend expend especially in hot climates also suggest you purchase a pair of those motocross stockings they actually stop a lot of chafing and look sexy...!!!
I love the Tech 7. I bought a pair 4 years ago, I had no problem with them, excellent protection and they are CHEAP. I paid mine 350 $CAD which is like half the price of Italian made boots. I don't think it is the best boot on the market but they can be the best bang for your buck if you buy the one on special. Better go small when buying boot, you want your foot to be snug.
I’m about to get new boots to tackle my Cairns to Cape ride in September. I’m thinking Forma this time, I have RST now that have been ok but hear that Forma are so comfortable. My main priority apart from protection is comfort and water protection. Would Appreciate your thoughts for this type of ride. Cheers 🍻
I think my perspective is already in this vid, it all depends on how much protection you want to sacrifice for extra comfort. I'd be going the best mx boots available.
@@crosstrainingadventure Thank you, your advice is appreciated .
Small update for my Forma Terrain TX 2.0: Rode with them a few times (weather is still shitty here in Germany). Still stiff as hell, but I got used with them and I can press rear brake and shift gears up and down without any adjustments made to the pedal. Shifting up is still a bit tricky as the boots are massive and don't fit under the pedal but I can upshift just by just using the sole edge to pull the lever upward. Of course, no more finesse in changing gears, it's all about slamming up and down but it works. Of course, walking in them is a different story, but as long as it's no longer than from the gas pump to the cashier it's fine. I do walk funny in them but who cares?
I used their top model, the Predators, for a few years, Cosmin. Heavy and clunky, but great protection and they lasted for ages. I"m not sure how they'd compared to the cheaper Terrain model. Hopefully gear shifting improves with time, after years of riding with mx boots I don't even notice the boots anymore.
Heavy and clunky, that's quite an accurate description. But then, so am I. They are rigid AF, got pivot points on both sides and they feel like ski boots. They would pass all the tests in the video. The only downside... Looking at the Gaerne boots in the video, I'd say the tip of the boot is almost double as high. I will have to raise the gear pedal 1 or 2 teeth. But I'm lazy and fiddling around the bike on cold and rainy weather is not my cup of tea. Unless it broke down in the middle of nowhere.
Got to add this as I just remembered. As I was searching the internet for user reviews on budget friendly enduro boots, I remembered reading somewhere that the main difference between cheaper and top model Forma boots is the inner comfort, not the outside protection. In other words, top model boots come with thicker proper lining, and I have to admit, my boots lining are pretty thin, requiring separate thick antibacterial socks for comfort.
Yep, the cheapie adv boots in this vid have almost no inner liner. They were a little bit uncomfortable initially as you could feel the leather folding and creasing but after a few rides they have worn in and are fine. You definitely get what you pay for!
good overview. Me: Sidi Adventure II for all around and touring on the GSA, mixed terrain. Crossfires are next on the acquisition list for more nargly off road stuff on the 450L
Unfortunately Sidi seem to have dropped badly in quality lately, Damon... especially the SRS models. The older Sidis were amazing though. czcams.com/video/S8JbyhmWGbI/video.html
@@crosstrainingadventure maybe. I’ve had sidi cycling shoes for 40 plus years, road and MTB and have seen no drop in quality. That said I’d never get the SRS crossfires only the trad sole version
I think their cycling and road gear is still made in Italy which might mean better quality control....
My SIDI ADVENTURE Goretex boots are coming apart after 3 years. Only a year longer than boots half the price. They've been pretty good, are still reasonably stiff, and kept me dry for the first 1.5 seasons, but I've suffered the typical sole separation problems since the leaks started. I've shoe goo'd them a few times now, they're on their way out..
I've been wondering if the frequent problems with Crossfires has extended to Sidi's other models too...
mine aswell
You can get them resoled. How many miles in that 3 years? What type of riding? Mine have lasted 7 years so far.
Great information, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Sidi Adventure are the boots I found the best, bloody expensive but for protection and comfort they are great and they have remained waterproof the longest of all the boots I have owned.
I worked as a motorcycle courier in Melbourne for well over 20 years so my gear was put to the test many a time and the Sidi Adventure survived the longest, so number one in my book.
How old are your boots now? There seem to be a lot of quality control issues in recent years with Sidi boots... the Crossfire boots at least. czcams.com/video/S8JbyhmWGbI/video.html
@@crosstrainingadventure I bought a pair about 6 years ago and only just binned them because they started letting water in about 3 years ago and the sole on the left boot was worn out due to getting off and on the bike 30 times a day but the boots were still in one piece.
I now have a new pair that are about 12 months old and no issues.
They stayed waterproof for three years? That's a good run! The left boot always seems to wear faster for me due to all the gear shifting. My three year old pair is close to wearing through the left sole now...
Gaerne just released the Fastback Enduro. They look like a good boot from a good company.
Nice review, czcams.com/video/Vgv-k9Ol-m4/video.html they look pretty good!
Looks like a good option, Tommy. I like how even the cheaper boots are still made Italy... www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gaerne.com%2Fboots%2Fen%2Farticolo%2F1%2F75%2F337%2F2197-013%2Fbrown%2F&psig=AOvVaw1XnCRkeWm5zfYyEArCfexR&ust=1621024212659000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCLi9hfe_x_ACFQAAAAAdAAAAABAF
My buddy has a pair of these. Great boots, and comfortable right out the box too! I wear some TCX drifters (or whatever they are called). They are fine, but have less lateral ankle support than ideal.
thanks this helps a lot.
Sidi crossfire are heavy sqweeky but I feel they offer great protection
Unfortunately price has been my main criteria, just could not go above 400 for a pair of boots. I waited for sales, but usually discounted ones were only wacky sizes. Finally i got a pair of boots with $150 off, Leatt 5.5. I hope they will be ok, i did not like my previous boots much (oneal) they were too bulky and broke up. Anyway, thanks for the videos on boots you have been very informative and straightforward.
I hope the Leatt boots work out okay. The comments I come across suggest they are very comfortable but there are reports of them falling apart for some riders... not surprising when they are made in China.
After walking into a shop yesterday to look at boots, i came to the conclusion that good steel caps provide as much protection, if not more than anything under 3-400$. Anything less than the best you are probably just as well off with a work boot. Im saving up now for a full on mx boot, its worth every cent, i really dont need a dr650 crushing my ankle. Ankles are temperemental things to heal if they ever really heal at all
PS 2 weeks later: I ended up buying a second hand set of $500 mx/enduro boots for $200. Worth every cent
If I’m adventure riding, where I don’t expect a lot of crashing but want waterproof boots - Sidi Adventure 2. For
more dual sport type rides, where there is singletrack and crashes, it’s Gaerne SG12 every time, and I’ll just put up with wet feet.
Sounds like a good combo...if the Sidis hold together, Dmitriy. As you probably know quite a few guys are having issues with recent Crossfires. With luck this doesn't apply to the adv boots.
@@crosstrainingadventure I have probably 6000-7000 miles on them, and so far aside from the fake leather starting to look a bit shoddy the Sidis are holding up well. I've actually had more issues with the Forma Terra Evo boots I had before these, where I had to get 3 pairs warrantied before I got one that was put together properly, and even those started falling apart after about 5000 miles.
The Sidi's are probably one of the more protective adv boots, but still leave a lot to be desired - the plastic is much softer than an MX boot and there is less of it, the sole is much more flexible, and there is little impact padding inside. I really wish Gaerne would make a waterproof version of something like the GX1 or Fastback. The reality of adventure or dual sport riding around here is that you will be crossing creeks, getting rained on a lot, and riding through cooler temps. So properly waterproof boots are kind of necessary. We tried Klim's Goretex socks, but the fit is quite bad and you wear holes through them after a couple days of riding.
Wow, a bummer on the Forma boots. Generally they have been pretty good. That's a great run with your Sidis, you've obviously got a great set of boots there.
alpinestar tech 3. comfortable enough. stiff and probably good enough protection. im a novice so i dont know better.
my only real complaint is i cant feel the rear brake and shifter. because of that i lock up the rear in soft terrain.
and while shifting i have a problem with not letting the shifter go back to its resting neutral position, so it messes with the shifting
Even a cheap motocross boot will give you some reasonable protection for adv riding, Michael. But the lack of an ankle pivot point will make gear changes and rear braking a bit more clumsy. These cheap boots usually soften up eventually but then of course it means you are getting less protection.
Gaerne SG10 with OTB Klim Dakar pants.
Doesn't look too obtrusive. Yes it's a bit clunky, but so are the knee guards and everything else. The curved boot sole actually makes walking not too bad. Much easier than my snowboard boots.
I tuck flipflops into my pack to use if needed.
Same here, I just pack some footwear that doesn't take up a lot of space...
Great info. Next boots are from this vid 💪🏻
Glad the vid was useful, Norm!
Forma Terra Evo x are my go to adv boots. Seems to me to be just about a perfect blend of comfort and protection.
Well priced, Randall? For quite a few years Forma was very cheap in Australia and guys were laughing all the way to the bank. Now their reputation is established they have lifted prices to match their quality... still a good deal, but damn they were amazing value a few years back!
@@crosstrainingadventure $379.00 here in the states. Pricey but what isn't these days. And they're cheaper than a hospital room.
@@Gravelcruiser A few years ago they were being sold without a box for around A$250. Agree a very robust and well made boot overall with reasonable comfort
If I would look again for small adventure boots, I would seriously consider work boot. You can get some nice looking one with a composite cap and a waterproof liner for a reasonable price and you will have much more choices. The downside is that they usually just have lace but if you plan on spending long period of time in them, that might be a good thing because they will be more snug to your ankle.
I personally bought some small adv boot from Forma and I don't think they have as much protection as an average work boot. However, they are comfortable, they fit well under my kevlar jean and they have 2 buckles and a Velcro so I don't look like RoboCop when I visit people. Always a trade off.
A good point, Cedric. Personally I would feel too exposed in short boots and can't see why decent work boots wouldn't be better. Perhaps an adv rider who has a pair could explain why short adv boots might be better? I can imagine laces might be an issue if they caugh on the footpeg while getting on or off the bike? Or even caught in the front sprocket and chain if not fully covered?
@@crosstrainingadventure Well personally, I like to wear mine when I want a more casual look and/or when I plan to walk a bit after the ride because motocross boots suck for walking and they have flat sole that make it very slippery when climbing. However, I (try to) stay in my comfort zone when riding because they don't have as much ankle support and shin protection.
For the lace well... keep them tight and short.
That all makes sense. If we do a short easy ride my brother just uses short riding boots... but I can't bring myself to do it. It's probably some kind of PTSD thing with two sets of multiple fractures from dirt riding lol. And yet I've never crashed while adventure riding.
@@crosstrainingadventure Then keep your good habit, wearing the most protective gear is always the best. Personally, I would have broken my foot literally an hour ago if I would have chose my small boot instead of my motocross one 😂. But I think small boot have their place sometime.
Definitely a time and place for various bits of gear! I forgot to put my dirt riding top in last ride and of course I got badly hit in two spots where the armour would have been... sore shoulder and a bleeing forearm for the rest of the ride lol.
I have narrow feet and skinny ankles, so the SIDI SRS boots are a great fit for me. But I can barely make them last 2 seasons. I'm mainly riding enduro.
I tried Alpinestars Tech 7 for one season. The comfort was great, but the boot felt too wide in the ankle area and very flexible. I wouldn't want to hit my toes against a rock in those boots.
I was just speaking with the manager of a large mx store yesterday, he said Sidi were one of the best boots until they moved their main factory outside of Italy and since then their quality has been patchy. 😢 He says Gaerne are definitely the best boot now.
0:13 true, I have observed this many times in reviews
Very happy with tech 7, tried all of the over $500 boots and these were the best fit for me and I find them comfortable all day
I was able to get a pair of "like new" ones for a good price. Currently own a pair of Tech 6's (great quality boot).
I’m 73 and I’m not an aggressive rider anymore. I’m willing to trade some protection for comfort. Must be waterproof and low. Light and comfortable is what I want. Suggestions? Thanks.
You may want to look at the Sidi adventure 2 with gortex. They are quite safe, not quite as tall as an mx boot, and jeans will go over them. I tried on the alpinestars tech 7 the other day. Super comfortable, stiff, but very very comfortable. I will probably be purchasing those, but I ride a lot of off road so.
TCX Baja Gore-tex for adv riding 👍🏻
I have Forma ADV that I rode everything on UNTIL I RUPTURED MY ACHILLIES, lost a whole season nearly and will be susceptible to re injury forever.
I now ride Fox Instinct after tons and tons of research (what else do you do when riding the couch?) There are some slightly better MX boots for adv/single track possibly but I have very large calves and the Fox was the best fit. Beyond the hit and abrasion resistance I was looking for ankle support, in all directions so a hinged boot was good but one that also has over extension blocks forward and backward is the best.
The Fox Instinct has been excellent and have been riding it for 8 months now and it's comfortable and taking the abuse very well.
Often the fit has to take precedence over everything else, Russ. The quality of Fox has dropped badly in recent years and dirt riders often report the Instinct boots falling apart, but I suspect for just adventure riding they'll probably hold together quite well. czcams.com/video/NMBPaW5pEbI/video.html
@@crosstrainingadventure Hey Barry, yeah we haven't had the quality issues here, maybe purchased after a bad bunch had been resolved late last season?. Their are three of us using them for primarily single track that you know somewhat I think... McNutt (Blue Mountain), Tamihi, Vedder and Bear Creek, so they are being abused. Will definitely post up if we see any quality issues. I love the fit so far andnthe stops for over flexion are excellent. Walking has been ok in them too!
Loved those first three places, Russ. I don't think I rode Bear Creek though...
@Cross Training Adventure meggs brap's back yard i think.
A promised reply, plus two years into ownership of the Gox Instinct and they have shown first sign of wear with a small section of sticking popping but still holding. 200 plus hours onnmy beta 5000km of adventure riding in hard offroad not just gravel. Should last this season readily is that too short of lifespan (asking cause I really don't know)
Looked at forma boots but found that due to massive calves, they went no were near and found similar with some other brands,
And what about ongoing support and service years after the initial purchase? Here in North America, Aplinestars USA provides free lifetime resole service and repair for a nominal fee. I managed to rip off the lower buckle support strap on my 6-year-old Toucan boots- 40 USD for repair and shipping back to Canada within 14 days. The Toucans are $$$ and waterproof, which is essential as I live in a rain forest. It is Alpinestars service that will likely be a significant factor in my next pair of boots. Perhaps the Tech 7 Enduro Drystar.
That would certainly help a lot, Rick. Years ago Alpinestars were made in Italy but then they outsourced to Vietnam, Thailand and Croatia. There has been a corresponding drop in quality but if they provide a good support service then that makes a big difference. Not aware of that service here down under. Gaerne and Forma tend to be the go-to brands here.
@@crosstrainingadventure Thank you for the clarification. Hopefully, the quality of boots made in Vietnam, Thailand and Croatia will improve. The quality of my Mosko Moto gear made in Vietnam is excellent, as is my Triumph Tiger made in Thailand. Oh, and my Screens for Bikes windshield that I picked up in Brisbane for my WR250R is also very well made! We must not leave out the Ozzie cousins. :)
Awesome much needed
Glad it helped, Amit
I have much more time street riding, and find it very hard to get used to shifting in off road boots. I do have the 100$ oneals which is probably the issue, but got them as I didn't know any better and don't ride very aggressivly. I want a boot with great protection but also easy shifting, any suggestions?
It's always a compromise, Jacob. The best boots have an ankle pivot but it's still harder to shift compared to just wearing sneakers.
@@crosstrainingadventure I appreciate the response, totally makes sense as well, time to dig deeper into the wallet! 🤑
230kg adv bike fell on my ankle last summer. Thanks to Gaerne Sg10s I could hobble home with only a stretched ligament
Hello, it appears you may have the info I need, great stuff here. Like the last commenter, I’m a recovering broken bone rider. Broken left mid-foot ( non-bike) injury is healing well but it’s fragile. Plus a broken 5th Metatarsal ( same foot) when bike fell on me / foot when I dropped it in a tight U turn. So I’m looking for a super strong boot with as much crush protection as possible for the mid-foot. That’s protection for crushing, like say my foot squished in a vice and also someone stomping on it. Was even considering getting a steel cover / tube made up I could slip over the boot. Would that work?
I ride a Tiger GT 900: mainly county road type riding. I do do a lot of slow speed skills riding / training ( hence I dropped the it)…
If you could assist, with a good boot option, it would be very much appreciated. Thanks
Generally any motocross/enduro boot from the best manufacturers will be pretty good, Tony. In order, I'd say Gaerne SG12, Forma Predator then Sidi Crossfire. Crush protection? I'd say the only extra support you'll get is occasionally some boots have a steel 'shank' in the sole that can help with sideways crushing. I can't remember which brands have this though. I can't see a steel cover working... too cumbersome, heavy and likely to make gear changes tricky.
I've got Tech 1's which are Moonboots - 95KG each and indestructible - hard to walk in and no idea where my foot is on a peg. I've got some AS Goretex tourers which are comfy as slippers but sandal-level protection. I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want (yes, I quote Spice Girls, deal with it) - Gaerne Fastback Enduro's (ticks every single box) - but 400 bones is a lot of gas in the tank - or a welder!
Zig a zig ha! I love that Spice Girls song lol. I'll be up for new boots soon and I reckon they'll be Gaerne... just have to decide which model.
Alpinestar Toucan ..... for my ADV rides
Hi bro! Do you think MX boots are practical for touring and short walks during the trip? I was inclined towards TCX Baja or Falco Avantour. But after reading about Gaerne GX1, I'm more inclined towards it. But unsure about how practical it would be for touring.. your advise? My riding would be on roads/highways 80-90 % and rest could be off-roading.
It is a tough decision to make, Arvind. The most protective boots are not great for lots of walking. But then comfortable boots you can walk in won't give much protection. Each rider has to weigh these up and make their own decision. 🤔
@@crosstrainingadventure Thanks for the quick response. Your thoughts on Gaerne GX1? And What I meant was not hiking or a short trek, but few hundred meters of walking with decent grip, so that I don't stumble. May be to a nearby view point or to a nearby cafe during my touring. Will that be possible in MX or more precisely in Gaerne GX1? I was planning on Falco or Forma Adventure, but Gaerne GX1 is solidly built. Hence the confusion.
Never used the GX1 so I couldn't comment, Arvid. I did suggest some ways to test how protective a boot will be in this video.
@@crosstrainingadventure Thanks again. Your thoughts between Gaerne Dakar and Gaerne Fastback Enduro? Primarily for touring and short walks as part of the tour? I ride a Royal Enfield Interceptor 650... Was just wondering if Fastback would be practical and not a burden given the type of riding and the bike. Kindly suggest... I'm more than willing to be patient and break in... But will it still work out?
I wear Ariat Roughneck for casual riding plenty of protection for riding. Tech3 for serious riding. I have 300.00 or so altogether.
Ariat ? Horse riding boots? Seriously?
Alpinestars Toucan GTX, meh protection, awesome comfort, absolutely waterproof through hours of hard rains in different countries - until you go knee deep in some water crossing then they'll dry forever on legs..
I've had good luck with the Alpinestars Corozal adventure boot.
Any idea where they are made, Jim? I know their mx boots are either made in Thailand, Vietnam or Croatia depending on the model.
@@crosstrainingadventure My corozals say made in Vietnam. They are a solid and warm boot up here in Canada. Hinged ankles, waterproof, and thick. They also fit wide feet nicely. No problems so far.
@@crosstrainingadventure 2nd the made in Vietnam.
Love the comfort of my Corozal boots, great for touring but they do sacrifice some protection. The ankle support is not great. But my Adventure stormtrooper outfit doesn't fit over my mx boots so I use them for more than just touring.
My last pair of Forma ADV boots lasted 8 years and used for EVERY type of riding , at the end of the day depends on how you land , what you hit ( so many variables) a fella gave me a hard time about my Forma,s ( he was wearing strong motor cross style boots - broke his lower leg 🦵. He boots were VERY good expensive boots 👢
It's good to see Forma's quality has been consistently good since they started up, I hope they don't drop the ball like most brands seem to be doing.
@@crosstrainingadventure , iv had my new pair for about 12 months and the quality still seems just as good 👍 and the price is about the same as well .