I built a Bombproof Wheel for my Hardtail

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Komentáře • 382

  • @jessesisco2841
    @jessesisco2841 Před rokem +66

    Double check your chain line is straight with your new hub and freewheel. May be as simple as a spacer or two on the cranks/bb. You could also try a chain guide and tensioner combo.

  • @maxfishermtb5288
    @maxfishermtb5288 Před rokem +69

    i'd recommend the reverse components chain tensioner. it doesn't seem that you can go wrong with it.

    • @fafinnn
      @fafinnn Před rokem +1

      That's right. My friend also bought super hard spring form hardware store for like 3$ and it's so fvckin tense rn 0_0. no way it's gonna fall off.

    • @parfumisme
      @parfumisme Před rokem +4

      I've used a Surly singleator tensioner pushing the chain up instead of down for better chain wrap. Should work great, too

    • @kimberlylowe1398
      @kimberlylowe1398 Před rokem

      Reverse is the best

    • @BramBiesiekierski
      @BramBiesiekierski Před rokem

      Thanks. I'm gonna check out the reverse.
      I have a kindernay vii IGH, and the tensioner that they supply is garbage.

  • @davomoto42
    @davomoto42 Před rokem +37

    I'd try using a half link to try to eliminate a chain tensioner completely. Otherwise I've heard good things about the reverse components tensioner.

    • @hindesite
      @hindesite Před rokem +3

      How does that work for narrow wide chainring?

    • @joshualuna-li931
      @joshualuna-li931 Před rokem +2

      @@hindesite it doesn't!

    • @jamesallenmainieri
      @jamesallenmainieri Před rokem +3

      ​@@hindesite idk if narrow wide is a necessity for this bike at this point

    • @mcndjxlefnd
      @mcndjxlefnd Před rokem +1

      @@hindesite he won't need a narrow wide if he gets his chain length correct.

    • @hindesite
      @hindesite Před rokem +1

      @@mcndjxlefnd won't need one, but one is already fitted. So to use a half link he'd have to change his chainring, which was kind of my point.

  • @KermitOfWar
    @KermitOfWar Před rokem +68

    I bet editing this video took longer than building the set of wheels. Good stuff mate.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +22

      Oh absolutely. Building a wheel goes pretty quickly. I hope more people try it

    • @Cesarrides
      @Cesarrides Před rokem +5

      @@EvansMTBSaga if possible please make a how to guide of how to choose correct spoke length! Most of the videos I see only only confuse me more 😅

    • @bobvelting379
      @bobvelting379 Před rokem +3

      @@Cesarrides I have not yet seen a video on it, but at the shop, I work at we use the spoke calculator from sapim. it is pretty straightforward to use

    • @korbinmcdowell3069
      @korbinmcdowell3069 Před rokem

      @@EvansMTBSaga please make a video on choosing apple and lenth

    • @korbinmcdowell3069
      @korbinmcdowell3069 Před rokem

      @@EvansMTBSaga *spoke

  • @ryanmichels2981
    @ryanmichels2981 Před rokem +33

    Nice to see the ex511 rim. My bike shop just built me up some wheels recently with the 511s after I did a ton of research about how strong they are. Serving me well so far.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +5

      I kinda bought it by accident. I saw the video from Fanatik bike Co torture testing a DT Swiss rim and thought it was the ex511. It's out it was a fr561 or w/e. But I hope the 511 is just as good

    • @ryanmichels2981
      @ryanmichels2981 Před rokem

      @@EvansMTBSaga from my research it looked pretty close to the fr560. Some top enduro guys thrashed the 511s and they seem to hold up well. Dt has kind of superseded both though with the new Fr541.

    • @thehighground4920
      @thehighground4920 Před rokem

      @@jaycarneygiants haha I just did the exact same thing

    • @BlueGoose29
      @BlueGoose29 Před rokem

      I just got a set of ex511s, was a no brainer with welded 30mm rims. Bomb proof

    • @BlueGoose29
      @BlueGoose29 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@bthomas518 cool to hear these wheels have treated you right... I absolutely love mine with 350 hubs. there's a lot more I could have mentioned as to why I chose this set but your reply pretty much sums it up 🤘

  • @rocco.mbb.zoccoli
    @rocco.mbb.zoccoli Před rokem +7

    I just appreciate how you say what a lot of us are thinking.. “that’s park tools for ya” like; seriously… it’s an injection molded piece.

  • @yamahschector
    @yamahschector Před rokem +2

    Those specialized slaughter tires are by far my favorite tires I have ever used. I have been mountain biking since 2004-2005 when I started too.

  • @GF-cb8rr
    @GF-cb8rr Před rokem +3

    Evan, been watching your videos since the Nucleus. Kudos to you for putting out informative and entertaining content. You deserve 10 X the subscriptions. Great work!

  • @michelxavier8153
    @michelxavier8153 Před rokem

    Thanks for all the info about the hubs and the different triangles lol good to know!!

  • @618outdoors
    @618outdoors Před rokem

    I’m loving this series so far!! Keep it up!!!

  • @IanHolmgren
    @IanHolmgren Před rokem +2

    The Surly Singleator comes with a secondary spring for reversing the tension to upwards instead of downwards, and the tension of it is tuneable. Both of these adjustments combined, paired with a good chainline should make the setup much more reliable.

  • @mattrides607
    @mattrides607 Před rokem +3

    Definitely recommend the reverse components chain tensioner, I run one on my full suspension 🤙🏻

  • @nickd0629
    @nickd0629 Před rokem +7

    Because it’s a hardtail, you don’t need a chain tensioner if you have the right chain length. I recommend playing around with a half link or 2 to get the proper chain tension

    • @MrJob91
      @MrJob91 Před rokem +3

      Depends on the style of dropouts unfortunately.

    • @felixburman5988
      @felixburman5988 Před rokem +1

      @@MrJob91 not really. With a through axle obviously there is no movement for the hub. This means that what I assume you were thinking is that you can't adjust the tension. This is true but you can still run a single speed, no tensioner setup by using a "unicorn gear" these can be found by putting the chain stay length into an online calculator as well as the desired gear ratio. This will then calculate the perfect gears meaning no tensioner. Also as op mentioned, you can use a half link or 2 or even a full half link chain to increase the adjustability. Finally I'm pretty sure you can see at the start of the video there is no tensioner so this proves it as well.

  • @fullerblacksmithing7954
    @fullerblacksmithing7954 Před rokem +1

    Sweet wheel build! That bike definitely needs a Marzocchi Z1 or a red Lyrik. Pretty sweet build so far. Loving the gold accents. Will definitely be adding some to my next bike

  • @julianw5692
    @julianw5692 Před rokem +1

    You can buy what I think are called eccentric bottom brackets which means that you don't need a chain tensioner at all.
    Pretty elegant solution. Also can a single speed actually be good for going up hills that aren't too steep.

  • @akaphayte
    @akaphayte Před rokem

    Shred shirts ordered! Love the design! Can’t wait to rep!

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem

      Dude thanks so much! I just submitted it to production, should ship out tomorrow!

  • @kevinbarry128
    @kevinbarry128 Před rokem +6

    For the chain tensioning I would recommend an eccentric bottom bracket. Its a chain tensioning system that uses oval shaped bearing cups to chain length and apply tension, plus they look really minimal and clean. Wheels mfg makes some really good models that fit most dub cranks.

    • @davidowle3772
      @davidowle3772 Před rokem

      I came here to say eccentric bottom bracket. Seconded. Also, there was a comment about minding your chainline, which is also important.
      The ultimate is to have dropouts on (a new/different) frame with horizontal adjustment.

    • @valkeding
      @valkeding Před rokem

      @@davidowle3772 I came her to say beltdrive. If there's no chain, can't loose it. Running a belt with eccentric dropouts, love it.

  • @jalbrecht55
    @jalbrecht55 Před rokem +1

    You might also consider the First or Phil EBB. May still need a half link to get the tension right though. I spent awhile figuring out a “magic ratio” on mine and was able to get away with no tensioner, though mine is looser than ideal. DMR tensioner is OK as another option.

  • @SSyclone
    @SSyclone Před rokem

    Keep up the great content Man! 👍

  • @umamichefd
    @umamichefd Před rokem

    Recently had to relace my rear wheel. Kept popping the cheap spokes. Replaced all of them with the sapim "strong" single butted 13g/14g spokes. Emtb running a good bit of power through the mid drive so something stronger was definitely needed.

  • @anotheryoutuber2463
    @anotheryoutuber2463 Před rokem

    the soulcraft convert will allow you to set the tension as you like without having to worry about a spring. however im a fan on fixed chainstay setups just going with a gear combination that arrives at the correct tension.

  • @StephenWebb02
    @StephenWebb02 Před rokem

    I use a dmr simple tension seeker, it’s a fixed position tensioner and also you can use it to push the chain up rather than pull it down

  • @Blackielude91
    @Blackielude91 Před rokem

    I did this on a different hardtail. Two things that were successful: correct offset crank and shortest chain length possible with the tensioner pushing from the bottom of the chain (pushing up). Good luck, you can get it!

  • @taiwna5
    @taiwna5 Před rokem +2

    Its a good day when he posts

  • @hamishhakes2601
    @hamishhakes2601 Před rokem

    Hey Evan I’d suggest getting yourself a reverse colab chain tensioner works super well at stopping the chain hoping of because it has two jockey wheels instead of one like you currently have hope this helps

  • @SPEXWISE
    @SPEXWISE Před rokem

    I use a fully stretched deraileur as a tensioner on singlespeed. No shifter or cable. You can align it and fix it into position with the H and L screws so it doesn't move. Haven't had the chain come off yet.

  • @johannes._.fr.
    @johannes._.fr. Před rokem +2

    try the reverse chain tensioner i used it, before i bought a dirt jumper, and i was happy wit it

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +1

      Thanks I'll look into that. The one I have is cheap crap lol

  • @Eric-kn4yn
    @Eric-kn4yn Před rokem

    Trick build of wheel used thick string as spokes on front wheel then cycled little wobbly but did short journey. Top spokes take most of the stress very interesting

  • @dudeonbike800
    @dudeonbike800 Před rokem

    Paul hubs, WI freewheel and a DT rim? Paired with black butted spokes and that's quite the wheel!
    The Park truing stand is designed to be bolted to the end of a workbench so much of it protrudes past the workbench for ease of use.
    You'll have a MUCH easier time tightening loose nipples if you seat the spokes in the hub flanges before beginning. All that spoke bend is caused by the spoke elbows not being properly cold-set into the flanges.
    And boiled linseed oil is the best spoke nipple lube/thread locker. This will greatly reduce nipple problems when you're reaching final tensions.
    Just be careful with linseed - soiled rags will spontaneously combust and burn your shop/house down!
    As mentioned below, I'd toss the chain tensioner and use an eccentric BB if you can.

  • @MotoSurgeon
    @MotoSurgeon Před rokem

    Yess ETRD chain tensioner would be nice if you can find one.

  • @carterhughes9655
    @carterhughes9655 Před rokem +1

    Get a dual pulley chain tensioner or get a half link and ditch the tensioner all together. Also, when it comes to freewheels, I always just tighten them a little bit and let it spin on the rest of the way with the first couple pedal strokes, I've never seen someone use the tool to tighten it.

  • @ottohibl9212
    @ottohibl9212 Před rokem +3

    I’d try using an old DH deraliuer with extended limit screws to keep it in place

  • @emersonmeadows2896
    @emersonmeadows2896 Před rokem

    Paul Components are great! I am using their brakes for my bikepacking bike and the beauty of the hand made machining is astonishing! Plus they are pretty local to me :)

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +1

      Oh no way you have the Klampers?!? I want to try those so badly!!

    • @emersonmeadows2896
      @emersonmeadows2896 Před rokem

      @@EvansMTBSaga you should! I’m sure you could make a great video comparing them to hydraulics of the same price! Because, wow! they are not cheap lol!

  • @fredriklysnes-steinbach2367

    Great video

  • @keenepalacios
    @keenepalacios Před rokem

    Hell of a job on the video sir keep it up wish you had big boy sizes I’d def support

  • @parker.gibbons
    @parker.gibbons Před rokem

    Reverse components or the SB one single speed tensioner. If its hard to get either of them another option is to grab a 7sp dh derailleur and chuck a short piece of shifter cable in it to hold tension

  • @jamesmincher3435
    @jamesmincher3435 Před rokem

    Yea my next chain tensioner is defo gonna be a reverse components bit pricey but looks so strong

  • @matticus6339
    @matticus6339 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nice job. Don't know what BB style that frame has but now just head on over to First Components and find one of there EBBs that will fit your frame and get rid of that tensioner .

  • @auto6547
    @auto6547 Před rokem

    damn those salughter grid tires bring back good memories. i had 27.5/3.0 ones and only reason I stopped using them is because I road onroad and offroad so I felt the rolling resistance more. now use debarons but I would still get them again

  • @Mikesonbikes
    @Mikesonbikes Před rokem

    Love this.

  • @jacobcasby9893
    @jacobcasby9893 Před rokem

    I wanted to buy that bike but someone beat me too it, glad to see it was you and now I get to watch along as you build it!

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem

      Haha dang no way! The guy said was posted for two months

  • @rickybonn
    @rickybonn Před rokem

    Building a strong wheel issue #1: 28 hole. Good call on the wide stance equal spoke length though. Those EX 511's are DH strong too.

  • @PJSinohin
    @PJSinohin Před rokem

    right tool for the right job

  • @benpc1794
    @benpc1794 Před rokem

    Ahh the white industries eno! The green 72ep trials one was the best freewheel back when I used to ride trials!

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +1

      I wonder if the green has better engagement. I was luckily able to order mine off Amazon with prime shipping. From the White Ind site, it says there's a wait list 🤦‍♂️

    • @benpc1794
      @benpc1794 Před rokem

      @@EvansMTBSaga I'm pretty sure the red had 36ep and a 3 pawl mechanism, where as the green had 6 pawls and 72ep :).

  • @lewiscornish8796
    @lewiscornish8796 Před rokem

    Half link is a possibility or a fixed tensioner as you don’t need slung loaded as your not running rear suspension on that bike so chain growth isn’t an issue

  • @sciguyisanerd
    @sciguyisanerd Před rokem

    Now you need to get one of those Paul components chain tensioners

  • @gesundheitstips2197
    @gesundheitstips2197 Před rokem

    I love the wheel, and I bet the bike is killer on the flow trails. But get a dirt jumper for the Pumptrack, it will feel so much more playful.

  • @reedwindmiller7490
    @reedwindmiller7490 Před rokem

    A half link chain is what you're looking for. Built a single speed with no chain tensioner or sliding rear axle and the chain is nice and tight.

  • @s14tat
    @s14tat Před rokem

    The ztto tensioner is actually adjustable. I had an issue where it would skip under max power but I adjusted the tensioner and that fixed it. The tensioner is cheap too.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +1

      Oh yeah it definitely has got to go. Now that I used this wheel, got smaller tires, I now feel the frame stiffness!!

  • @hardmtnbiker
    @hardmtnbiker Před rokem

    I have a few single speed specific hubs and they definitely have a cleaner look and build up a stronger wheel. I’m not sure if it would be that noticeable but I noticed that my SS wheels don’t get out of true as much as my geared hub wheels. I also believe this is why Pivot and many other manufacturers started using the new Boost plus 157mm standard and obviously most DH specific bike use wider hubs. I have a friend that raced Foes bikes and it had a 160mm hub.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem

      Oh yeah my Alchemy has super boost. It's a noticeable difference!

  • @GoodTrails
    @GoodTrails Před rokem +1

    Try a half bmx link chain, you might be able to ditch the tensioner entirely. Also, most people don’t know about half links, so it could make for a cool video segment

  • @TheCaptainsCog
    @TheCaptainsCog Před rokem

    Yes! You got to ride the railyard! Sick Dude.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +1

      I haven't rode steep lips in forever! I'm okay with making excuses, I didn't hit the big line. It's pretty big! Haha but I couldn't take a crank

    • @TheCaptainsCog
      @TheCaptainsCog Před rokem

      @@EvansMTBSaga I don't ever hit the big lines. Im perfectly fine being an over 40 mediocre medium line rider. 😅⚓👍

  • @CarlLaberfeld
    @CarlLaberfeld Před rokem

    The EX Rim came with DT Swiss Squorx Nipples, i suggest getting a DT Swiss Squorx "Driver" / "Key". There is a reason why torx is so aswesome. If you dont want the properiatrty tool you could also try to get Nipple Wrenches that not only put on stress on two sides of the square but also grab a portion on all sides. I dont know how to describe them, but they are almost closed squared with only a small spacing to get it on the spoke first and then slide it from the top on the nipple. With the normal nipple wrenches different tolerances could F up and round the nipple. This Vid is what i love about wheelbuilding, it opens up a new world, geeky stuff that is not found as a whole wheel on the market. Way to go 💪

  • @justinbatchelor2418
    @justinbatchelor2418 Před rokem

    Its pretty cool seeing you do jumps. I can definitely tell your an ex bmx racer. I used to race bmx in AZ also. Down in Lake Havasu and Parker AZ. That was back in the late 90s.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem

      Oh yeah I saw that Lake Havasu track from afar about two years ago. Still there! BMX is rad you should revisit it! I'm thinking about doing the same.

  • @Darkridgefilms
    @Darkridgefilms Před rokem

    I definitely appreciate this hardtail hardtail series you’re doing, as I’m a hardtail enthusiast. The one thing I dislike is that you switched from 2.8 tires to 2.6. If you ever do switch back to 2.8, I recommend trying the Maxxis Rekon plus.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem

      Those 2.8's were really really nice on the trail. I'm curious how these 2.6 will work on the trail. I have one final video left on this particular hardtail build so I'll keep you updated

    • @Darkridgefilms
      @Darkridgefilms Před rokem

      @@EvansMTBSaga much appreciated! I’m currently trying to build up my channel, and my main bike that I use is my 2022 Rocky Mountain growler 40. After I saw your hardcore hardtail, I decided to convert mine from 29” to 27.5x2.8. To say it’s a fun bike would be an understatement

  • @darius2640
    @darius2640 Před rokem +1

    bin the chain tensioner and get a chain guide instead, full fat version with a jockey wheel, like a MRP G2 or a e-thirteen LG1

  • @davidklepis7248
    @davidklepis7248 Před rokem

    what helped me on my dirt jumper was using 11 speed chain. It isn't as strong as the single speed, but it holds on much much better. You should try that, you don't even have to buy expensive one

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for the tips! I'm going for the strongest set up possible so I can put the power down on climbs

  • @lukasfuhles6960
    @lukasfuhles6960 Před rokem +1

    Try the Reverse chain tensioner. I only heard good things about them and they have good quality :)

    • @tobiasbockdh3007
      @tobiasbockdh3007 Před rokem

      nah they lose there stiffnes pretts fast buy a sb one its about the same price and way better

  • @charliesbikes7773
    @charliesbikes7773 Před rokem

    Love this bike

  • @kb-nh2oj
    @kb-nh2oj Před rokem +6

    i'd reccommend you to buy an eccentric bottom bracket so that you dont have to use a chain tentioner! also use half links (they make for a stronger chain)

    • @jamesallenmainieri
      @jamesallenmainieri Před rokem

      Coming from freestyle street bmx I second the half link, and the bb idea seems like something Evan would be into. Plus it fits into his new budget because we're talking under 200 in parts

    • @highnoon4515
      @highnoon4515 Před rokem

      Not really i haved half link on my bmx and they are not that strong how they advertise it doesn’t have much diff from regular chain

    • @jamesallenmainieri
      @jamesallenmainieri Před rokem

      @@highnoon4515 the appeal for the half link in this case is to be able to adjust chain slack, not strength

  • @jerryspeedbumps512
    @jerryspeedbumps512 Před rokem

    Lacing up my own wheels has been easily the most rewarding part of my own full build. I didn't get a stand but have a good eye and went with the bike and diy stuff and finally brought it to the lbs to check over! I saved money and made a bombproof wheelset!
    Dt350 jbend boost 28h and raceface ARC rims. 54t upgrade and amazing stuff! A great wheelset is an expensive but noticeable upgrade. Maybe 2nd to a dropper IMHO.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +1

      I'm glad you build your own wheels! It's super fun and you can know every bolt and screw on your bike is tightened by you

    • @jerryspeedbumps512
      @jerryspeedbumps512 Před rokem

      @@EvansMTBSaga did you end up using brass nipples?

  • @thanasimamais320
    @thanasimamais320 Před rokem

    Just installed a slaughter on the rear of my hard tail. It’s better in the back for trails but if your riding hardpact I don’t see how it’ll hurt in the front.

  • @alexghr.9207
    @alexghr.9207 Před rokem

    you should get the reverse components chain tensioner, or just a chian tensioner with 2 pulleys

  • @Rawkus919
    @Rawkus919 Před rokem

    Use an old 10 speed or similar derailleur to tension chain. Works very well, and quite a few examples on CZcams on how to set up.
    Also, is that chain compatible with a narrow/wide chainring?

  • @letsgo_inc
    @letsgo_inc Před rokem

    Without sliding dropouts, you will have to use a chain tensioner. You could try half link chains as well.

  • @BlueGoose29
    @BlueGoose29 Před rokem

    I can’t recommend enough a 2-pulley tensioner of some sort like others mentioned… speaking from experience. Or you can try finding that sweet spot without a tensioner, there’s a chain inch and cog size calculator out there somewhere online

  • @glenzigdan
    @glenzigdan Před rokem

    Gotta get that Paul Melvin!

  • @hubertjurek2047
    @hubertjurek2047 Před rokem +1

    get a chain tensioner with two wheels it will make the chain a lot more tensioned or you can use a rear derailleur with a clutch

    • @hubertjurek2047
      @hubertjurek2047 Před rokem

      i had a shimano alfine and it was very good but my dumbass didnt know how to use it so i left it in my basement and its gone now, but its a solid and cheap tensioner

  • @ChrisRidesHisBike
    @ChrisRidesHisBike Před rokem

    Take a couple links out of that chain and see if you can get it on without the tensioner.

  • @Drago0900
    @Drago0900 Před rokem

    Maybe clean out the freehub for the crap noise out of the old ones btw. Works wonders

  • @joebikes
    @joebikes Před rokem

    Geometry lessons with Evan! 😅 Isosceles, scalene, yeah I haven’t heard those terms in forever 😂 great video man!

  • @lolandypanda
    @lolandypanda Před rokem +1

    either fix a chainline or add chainguard. Narrow-wide rear gear probably not an option :)

  • @bradymartin5582
    @bradymartin5582 Před rokem

    If you don’t care about weight, you could use a half link chain. It allows you to get perfect tension without a tensioner

  • @ognyc6522
    @ognyc6522 Před rokem

    Paul’s components has a good tensioner. Set and forget

  • @kapustamena
    @kapustamena Před rokem

    0:44 am I seeing a crooked chainline? also making sure chain thickness matches the sprockets.. other then that, I say find a frame with sliding dropouts. you can mix wheels adjust chain tension and also wheel base! I love my regular honzo , and esd .

  • @camperhonsa8633
    @camperhonsa8633 Před rokem

    Get a proper SB ONE chain tensioner. Slopestyle riders run them on full sus bikes and the retention is rock solid. Make sure to get the good version thouh, the cheaper one has a weaker spring and can occasionally create problems.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem

      That's interesting. Does it hold the chain on without a clutch, even on full sus?

  • @andrewince8824
    @andrewince8824 Před rokem

    Look ar Profile hubs. They do BMX style hubs for MTB spacings with disc mounts.

  • @joefinning1075
    @joefinning1075 Před rokem

    Try just using an old short cage derailleur as a chain tensioner, the extra jocket wheel will hold the chain on the sprocket

  • @joshuasheppard6931
    @joshuasheppard6931 Před rokem

    you cab use a rigid chain tensioner instead of a sprung one for example a dmr tensioner

  • @glen3509
    @glen3509 Před rokem

    Evan, have you heard of Crank Brothers Iodine wheelset? I'm not sure if they still make them. They were cool looking wheels🤘🤘

  • @rodrigonza98
    @rodrigonza98 Před rokem

    bro if you dont wanna put a chain tensioner, you can put a half link chain, it is more precise for have a good chain tension without chain tensioner, with a tensioner the reverse components is the good one

  • @mancmk2164
    @mancmk2164 Před rokem

    Bmx front chainring and half link chain.more chance of getting good chain length. Check out what sam pilgrim used on one if his old videos. He used a tensioner but i cant remember what brand. Your making life difficult swap your frame for a dirt jump frame with drop outs job done.

  • @zmogas7634
    @zmogas7634 Před rokem

    If you want the chain not to fall, look for a chain guard similar to DH

  • @rosscoshred
    @rosscoshred Před rokem

    Rohloff DH single speed chain tensioner. I have one on my dh bike and over never dropped a chain, even at fort William. Good price too

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem

      Nice that looks pretty minimalistic too

    • @rosscoshred
      @rosscoshred Před rokem

      @@EvansMTBSaga Yeah, no silly logos anywhere. Also check out a concentric bottom bracket like some of the other comments mention. Works a treat on my single speed hardtail.

  • @paulmerzweiler5117
    @paulmerzweiler5117 Před rokem

    Sb one chain tensioner is the Way to go

  • @TheGameOfBIKE
    @TheGameOfBIKE Před rokem

    As others said I would gi with reverse components chain tensioner

  • @thecannabiskidfortier6219

    I used a regular derailleur paired with an old Shimano index shifter and tighten the screw down till tension locked the shifter was stuck in place.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem

      Yeah I've heard using an old derailleur is a good way to do it

  • @joshuapregonero2652
    @joshuapregonero2652 Před rokem

    Use a narrow wide pulley maybe it can make the chain grip more on the pulley.

  • @kevinhodgins9071
    @kevinhodgins9071 Před rokem

    There are some videos on CZcams on magic chain ratio so you don’t need a tensioner. I believe there was a website that they used where you enter your variables and it lets you know all the potential cog variants that you could run. Just not sure if would work with thru axels? 🤔 I guess your dream hardtail needs thru axle sliding rear dropouts

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +1

      Oh cool! I got lucky last time with a 32/16, but I wen to 17 in the back for this

  • @nemeslaurentiuconstantin6360

    You should have went for the white industries eno trials freewheel because it has more engagement points because your other bikes have much more engagement points and it wouldn't feel as weird going from a bike to an other

  • @SprSonik13
    @SprSonik13 Před rokem +1

    Been SSing for 25 years. Run the ridiculously cheap Shimano Deore Tensioner if you want best bang for the buck, or a Paul Melvin if you want to spend. Unless you run a tiny rear cog, the Shimano will work really well. Or upgrade to a proper SS frame with adjustable drop outs ;)

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem

      SS is so fun. I hope everyone experiences it at least once. I think I'm going to do a few SS builds moving foward

  • @moritzkress4352
    @moritzkress4352 Před rokem

    Could you make a series where you try to learn a couple of tricks on your single-speed.

  • @colinl2908
    @colinl2908 Před rokem

    Nice wheel build. no one ever goes into the lacing patterns. Just wondering about the electrical tape over the rim tape. I haven't seen that before?

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +1

      Oh yeah this was 3 cross pattern. And I picked up the electrical tape over the rim tape trick from Syd and Mackey. It's a great solution to prevent the gradual PSI loss from having just rim tape. Now I hardly lose air pressure

  • @timjacob991
    @timjacob991 Před rokem +1

    “When’s the last time you heard those terms” haha
    Nice hub

  • @jerryspeedbumps512
    @jerryspeedbumps512 Před rokem

    With a single speed and a mtb hub being in a set position would you be able to run a Chain without a tensioner if you drop some more links? Maybe a beefier chain for strength and a beefier, replaceable front ring.
    I don't know single speed.

  • @liamkenny100
    @liamkenny100 Před rokem

    Get a tensioner that wraps the chain more around the freewheel, pushes up into the freewheel rather than below, your chain is skipping over the sprocket...

  • @ben_maier5648
    @ben_maier5648 Před rokem

    I think the SB1 DH Chain tensioner is the best

  • @kotelettschweiss7811
    @kotelettschweiss7811 Před rokem

    If you want to tension on a budget, use an old derailleur. Maybe itll Work

  • @blakeszkoda5732
    @blakeszkoda5732 Před rokem +1

    So one thing you kinda skimmed over that I was curious about: how did you ensure a proper chain line in this case? Do you have a dishing tool and all that and you just didn’t show it? Totally just curious.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  Před rokem +1

      I have a dishing tool now, but that wouldn't change the chainline. But I did make sure the chainline was nice and straight, but forgot to closely look at the underside chainline and that tensioner was just a tad off causing the chain to come off. Then I didn't have any tools on hand to fix it at the bike park

    • @blakeszkoda5732
      @blakeszkoda5732 Před rokem

      @@EvansMTBSaga ooohhh ok glad it was the tensioner that’s an easy fix haha

  • @mkrj2576
    @mkrj2576 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for the nice video. I you still want to be able to easily and effectively true your wheel after two or three years of hard riding, use brass nips. Oh, and wait for the day you need to get that free wheel off. Holy crow!!! They stick tight.