Ripped Off By John Deere? Find Out Now! The Real Weight Of Tractor Weights For John Deere Tractors
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- čas přidán 7. 12. 2019
- Are we getting ripped off by John Deere? Some time ago, I noticed that my John Deere suitcase weights were stamped 20kg/40lb. Well, I don't remember much from school, but I do recall that one kilogram wasn't exactly equal to two pounds. The most commonly accepted ratio is 1 kg = 2.2 lbs. However, I'm going to use a slightly more accurate version of 1 kg = 2.205 lbs.
So, 20 kg is equal to 44.1 lbs.
And, 40 lb is equal to 18.14 kg.
The weight test results are below and the main thing to keep in mind is that this is just for fun! This is not a certified scale, I have no controls in place, I simply grabbed the weights and weighed! I found the results interesting and I hope you do too!
John Deere 20KG/40 LB Suitcase Weight Results
Average: 18.96 kilograms/41.8 pounds
High: 19.23 kilograms/42.4 pounds
Low: 18.59 kilograms/41.0 pounds
NOTES: 15 weights weighed. Mixture of two different style logoed John Deere weights and an aftermarket version without logo. All labeled 20kg/40lb.
John Deere 32KG/70 LB Suitcase Weight Results
Average: 32.29 kilograms/71.2 pounds
High: 32.38 kilograms/71.4 pounds
Low: 32.20 kilograms/71.0 pounds
NOTES: 3 weights weighed. All generic, no label and marked 32KG.
John Deere 50KG/110 LB Wheel Weight Results
Average: 46.39 kilograms/102.3 pounds
High: 46.44 kilograms/102.4 pounds
Low: 46.35 kilograms/102.2 pounds
NOTES: 2 weights weighed. Both John Deere weights purchased from John Deere dealer. Included hardware (BM11939) mentions that it's for 110 lb wheel weights. Weight not identified on weights.
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John Deere Ripping people off, is why I left them. $20 for a 2" x 1/2 grade 8 bolt, $1000 for a radiator on a 4100 HST, $3500 for a kit just to kit one part that listed for $119... $500 for a rear PTO shaft that doesn't meet the OEM specs so you have to ship it off to be reground by a machinist. Yep.. Yanmar and RK for me!
What does the hardware weigh for the wheel weights? Maybe that's your 8lbs. Haha
@@brodegets I've answered that several times. Hardware weighed 1.8 lbs.
@@GoodWorksTractors I'll scroll down further next time. Was just meant to be a laugh. I appreciate your videos. I have been considering a compact tractor to compliment my 1830 and have learned plenty from your videos. Thank you for making them.
God Bless ya for your hard work on this video! Gonna buy my next Deere from you just because of it! ! And Merry Christmas to you and the fam!
Haha, I'll hold you to it! Kidding 😉
Yes, Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!
Thanks! Good, detailed overview of the various weights. Buyer beware. Have a great week!
automatically got a like for seeing your supervisor/inspector lol. was great to see her again. :) one thing i have found out with scales. heavier the object, the more solid the base support needs to be, if no support is under the scale, the "give" from the base/support [table] could cause the scale to be inaccurate. example: try to weigh yourself on carpet vs. hard/solid floor.
Ha! Yeah, I know what you mean about surface. I wasn't trying to get too technical. I think the results are good enough for me 🤣
@@GoodWorksTractors is a good video. have wonder about the real weight myself. like you said. kg and lb are very different. thanks for the video :)
Now you need to sit down and have a beer (or coffee) for your galliant efforts! Thank you for taking the time to make this video! 👍👍
🤣 Coffee it is....I guess I should have waited to post this a little later today, darn!
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@@tutekohe1361
I was wondering if anyone out there was scrupulous. Well done.
I work on industrial scales for a living, and if I found results like that, I'd be getting the QA department involved ASAP!
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110lbs WHEEL WEIGHTS.
I wonder if the wheel weight included the bolts and nuts , just saying.
I hadn't thought about that, I'll have to weigh them and see if it's close. Thinking about it though, you have to buy the hardware separately from the weights. They aren't sold as a package together. I'll weigh them tomorrow and report back!
I was thinking the same thing Mike
If you check the "Community" tab on my channel, I posted a picture of the hardware. It only weighs 1.8 lbs. So, total wheel weight and hardware still falls short by approximately 6 lbs.
Good Works Tractors you are very thorough Courtney!! Now bring some of that green gear to SoCal so we can sell/demo it!!
You also need to credit the weight of the mounting bracket!
At the risk of sounding like Captain Obvious, 20 and 40 sound like nice, round, easy to work with numbers- for quick tallying.
Was the hardware for each 110 lb. weight about 8 lb.????
1.8 lb
Your test results shows that the weights for the back or front of the tractors are correct where the ones for the wheels are off quite a bit and the consumer is cheated when buying them. I have the weights on the front of my 790 John Deere tractor since I use the bush hog attached to it and I needed the extra weight to hold it down. I didn't put wheel weights on either tractor though, but don't need them on my other tractor since I have a front loader on it.
the logos. depending on the year determines if the deer is jumping or landing. they changed it on certain years
When tractor pullers are using suitcase weights to get to their desired overall weight, the weight difference must drive them nuts.
If that was gasoline with weights and measures John Deere would have a problem
Great job brother. I came up with the same on the 40#. Band of Brothers and Sisters.
Thank you sir!
Go get the literature on the whites at the dealer and there is a disclaimer but it also on the whole wheel weights the weight included the bolts and the nuts that are used to mount it if I remember correctly there is a disclaimer by John Deere and some of the literature about Weights the dealer told me in the 60s it has to do with the casting and the quality of the cast-iron that they use in the weights
Hardware adds 1.8 lbs which still leaves them well short.
They have pretty good control over repeating the weight. That's not the problem. Calling them 20kg when they never are even close is the point.
I see a pattern, as the weight goes up, the discrepancy is more. Next can we watch you weigh some 300 lb weights, then we can go up to 500 lb, I'll wipe your brow! Ha Ha.
🤣 I'll think about it!
Do you feel the wheel weights are worth the money? When I was raking my yard, I would go over large mole hills and the tractor feels tippy. Obvously with the rake I don’t have my ballast box attached. I have been wondering if the wheel weights would help. The JD dealer talked me out of the wheel ballast, as they said the chemical is very corrosive and is messy if the tire needs to be repaired.
I think ballast weight is worth the money, but lots of reasons for choosing the exact method.
Try putting the scale on the concrete floor to take the possible flex of the bench out of the equation. Also the yellow 110 weights are wheel weights now suitcase weights. Maybe the nuts and bolts add a few pounds. Nice video!!
I tried on the floor afterwards as someone else suggested it. No difference. I also weighed the hardware. Only 1.8 pounds. Yep, yellow round weights are wheel weights, not suitcase weights. Thanks for watching.
I like your reaction to the 110 pounders. WHAT!!??? THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE 110 pounds!! Lol.
😂
should write the weights on each of them, just a thought.
I just watched this video, I am wondering if you add the mounting hardware to the 110 lb wheel weights will it bring it closer to 110. Just sayin' .
Hi, yeah others asked and I answered awhile ago. Still well short of that listed weight even with the hardware.
Hi, Enjoyed video, actually dept weights & measurements should be contacted. Commerce rules products sold by weight MUST be sold as advertised. you have a winnable case ! Happy Holidays🚜🎅🎄🇺🇸👍
Ooooo....class action suit? Ha! Happy Holidays to you as well Mark!
Thanks, good vid
Thanks man!
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I do love mine!
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If I recall correctly, When I bought my small suitcase weights, they were described as 42 lb weights. 42 lbs is the mean value between 20 kg(44 lbs), and 40 lb
Are your weights stamped with weight markings?
@@GoodWorksTractors
Interestingly enough, I just went out and checked them, mine are cast with 19 kg (42 lb).
The conversion of 19 kg into pounds is 41.8878 lbs., which is extremely close to the average weight of your sampling of the 15 small weights that you have weighed.
It looks like somebody in charge of sourcing finally figured out how to convert kilograms to pounds, and had the markings changed.
Interesting info. Hummm
I wonder if the hardware weighed the difference on it if you bolt it on with it it would add that on to the fieger to added weigh
Yeah, I put a post under my Community tab about that. Hardware only weighs 1.8 lbs.
Rounding off . . . 20 kg = 44 lbs. And 18 kg = 40 lbs. So by aiming for a plus or minus 42 lb they are just splitting the difference. Lesson to be learned is that with rough castings of big heavy blocks of steel that are not machined or milled for precision in any way, there will ALWAYS be variance in final weights.
The test showed that they are actually quite precise and consistently lower than advertised lbs. Never once actually 42 lbs. That's the point. Why advertise as a certain weight when it isn't being provided..ever? Deceit.
The wouldn't sdvertise 20 kgs in Europe if they were not 20kgs. They would get fined for it.
Maybe the 110 pounders include the hardware for a total weight of 110?
That was mentioned by a couple others so I weighed them and the hardware installation kit only weighs 1.8 pounds. Reference this post on my Community tab. Thanks for watching!
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the older logo they were jumping the newer ones they are landing I found this kinda cool
I didn't know that, very cool! Wonder what year that transition was made?
that part I cant find but I know in 1968 they went from their original design to the jumping deere
@@mattrauch7102 antlers differ upon age
didnt say anything about antlers
@@mattrauch7102 didn't say you did the antlers changed just like the jump or landing not a big deal just a little jd info merry Christmas
Had some time on your hands, didja? lol.
I’m curious if the wheel weights are 110 lbs with the hardware that came with them 🤔
Answered many times below. Hardware only weighs 1.8 lbs.
On the 110 lb weights, what is the weight of the attachment hardware. Should that be added to the total weight.
Good question. I'll weigh the hardware tomorrow. Since the hardware is sold separately, it doesn't have to be purchased with the weights. Would be an odd "weigh" for John Deere to go about it. See what I did there?
If you check the "Community" tab on my channel, I posted a picture of the hardware. It only weighs 1.8 lbs. So, total wheel weight and hardware still falls short by approximately 6 lbs.
Are the round weights considered suitcase weights? Love your channel. Thanks Larry
Hi Larry, the round weights are wheel weights. I'm going to be mounting them on my 4066r rear wheels. Thanks for following along!
@@GoodWorksTractors thanks for responding back. The reason I said that is I thought you said on the package it said the suitcase weight should be 110.and I always thought that the round weights were considered wheel weights. Maybe I misunderstood you in the video. Thanks again Larry
I might have said that. I mix up my words occasionally :)
What about the hardware witch holds them in place?
Answered quite a few times in the comments. I weight it and it came in at around 1.8 lbs I believe it was.
on the wheel weights you need to add the hardware weight. this may get you 110#
Neah. I answered many times already. Still well short with the hardware.
I remember doing this, weighing suitcase weights, wheel weights, bought a case of Markal liquid paint markers and writing on each weight what the actual weight was, and just as he showed the weights are off
Nice video 😃
Its a nominal value, like a 2x4 is a nominal dimension.
It was just for fun
jhurley12 I hope you’re being sarcastic.
Like... close enough for horse shoes?
What did the Wheel weight hardware weigh?
Asked a couple times already. I'll find out tomorrow.
All weights are within 10% of there advertised weight for the suitcase weights I understand that but the 110 lb weights should be advertised as 100lb weights law will allow 10% grace
10% is legally allowed? Boy, someone must have got paid off handsomely when that law was passed.
I thought the wheel weights were only supposed to be 100 lbs but I guess they advertise 110
Today anything you buy that says John Deere on it is over priced
Those small weights sold thru Deere were sold as 42 lb weights.
You saw they are stamped 20 kg/40 lb right?
@@GoodWorksTractors Calm down bud, I was just saying that they were listed in all Deere literature for mowers, and compact tractors as 42lb. The larger ones 70. Your test was interesting on seeing actual weights on a scale. Wasnt saying anything negative about your video, was just saying.
Ha, I don't get worked up. I didn't know if you watched the video as I get comments all the time from folks who click a video and then start typing 😉
While it might just be the scale that's wrong, but if the weights are actually just 19kg (and some even less), that's a bit surprising.
Yeah, scale could be wrong. However, I zeroed it out, about all I knew to do.
Whew. I am totally exhausted after watching this! LoL
Ha! I'm still recovering 😂
They should use lead based paint to make them heavier...LOL
They may have been 20kg, without any air bubbles in them.
I’m just curious if you think they called the rear wheel weight suitcase weights which they’re not the real wheel weights😂
Huh?
You don't own anything JD make you only buy the rights to use it .and pay to repair it .and maintain it .
You might want to tell your local Deere dealer about this and see what they say.
I'm not that concerned. It was for fun.
The dogs about 40 lbs cant ya just strap her on back, mine like to stay close by me so they would like it. Weee let's go for a ride!
😂👍
454 grams per pound.
Why do you call wheel weights suit case weights
110 lbs once the hardware is installed.
Answered many times... hardware is only 1.8 pounds.
LoL - point 2, point 1 etc
Hlo sir please help i from india State Punjab 😌😌
Check the weight of hardware. That could be the 8 pounds
So, no. your not getting ripped off unless you buy 20KG weights.
Or....the opposite...So, yes. You're getting ripped off unless you buy 40LB weights. See how that works? 😂
You are not adding the hardware weight!!
Read many of my responses. I weighed and added. Still fell short.
your name should be repeat peat lol
John Deere rips you off at everything, Atlantic Tractor is bad at it
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There he is :)
@@GoodWorksTractors i need a set of weights and a tractor to go with it....lol
THIS TITLE PISSES ME OFF...
I assure you John Deere had not survived and thrived as one of the biggest and oldest company's in the world by cheating and ripping customers off on weights. Honestly, anything JD is the only products I've felt that you actually get what you pay for.
Perhaps you shouldn't be so easily offended :)
Plastic weights 😂😂😂😂
Maybe it’s too politically correct but- the term “gypped” is an ethnic slur that refers to the ethnic group commonly referred to as Gypsies. By using this term to mean cheated, you disparage a whole group of people. I won’t name them, but other ethnic group names have been used to define negative traits. It is insensitive and you seem to be an intelligent well meaning guy so why use this expression?
First I've heard that and you're right. I had no idea it was a derogatory term. I wasn't using the term to intentionally disparage a group of people. It is defined as being cheated or swindled not as a derogatory term describing a group of people.
No worries, being a child of the 60s myself, we used that term regularly. Only when it was brought to my attention did I actually make the connection. Before that, I never thought twice about using the term. Peace.
Another PC liberal. If your not a gypsy, then why would you be commenting about being disparaged?
Joel Schneid who cares
People are too sensitive these days - this new generation is a bunch of pussies!!
If you soak them in water for a week they double in weight