WHY YOUNG DRIVERS SHOULD BUY AN MG ZR+ 1.8 160bhp - Insurance, Running Costs, Pricing Review
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Is it just me that thinks these are beautifully underrated? Like these things are actually gorgeous!
Agreed
Headgasket
Same
@@DOBS13 Ever owned one? only morons who don't take care of their cars blow headgaskets.
@@d4rkhound388 i’ve owned one... headgasket was never an issue
I think you can squeeze another advert in
get one of them add blockers if you watch it on your pc not sure about other things but he dose love his ads tho
@@hyperspacedude4936 I have on my pc. Just if I watch quick vids on the phone when I'm out etc. It gets tedious when a quick 10min video turns to 15 with all the ads
@@Jack-wu3ie ye I know that one and I know not to watch Jamies vids as I like a video with my ads xD
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In fairness if I was a young lad and I had as many ads on my videos I could probably afford the sky high insurance.........
fortunately, I have an adblocker on CZcams
So true! The insurance will be a killer on a car like this. In the video he calls it “budget”
I’m 19 I’ve been quoted 1,700 no black box fitted, wouldn’t say that’s too bad for 1.8
I think this whole "WHY YOUNG DRIVERS SHOULD BUY" series needs a rethink
I don't think he really cares what anyone thinks, never see him in the comments
@@kevr4698 believe me he cries himself to sleep
Yes another shit young driver suggestion. Fun cars but not good to insure for 95%+ of young drivers.
I've got a Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8tsi (2016). Using Admiral multicar insurance and pay £536 a year. 21yrs 1yr ncb. nearly 2yrs driving
The 1.4 MG ZR would be a much more sensible suggestion £1600 per year for me an 18 year old with no NCB
Connor yep
Lewis Storer but the 1.4 is Dort
Mr330d what
Strongly recommend a MG ZR, if you are buying for a first car, go for the 1.4. I have had mine for 3 years and hasn't missed a beat. These cars will start to rise in value, and are likely to become a future classic.
Had one for my first car in green i loved it, Never had a problem with it, actually made money on it when i sold it 👍💪😂
opposite for me
Too many adverts, I switched off after the first 5. It was enough, video ruined.
I love mine, 5 years later never missed a beat 🤙🏻
An add every minute 😂😂
They're really not that cheap to insure for younger drivers. Especially if you have no NCB.
Nathan Smith i had a zs 180 at 19 and I think it was only about £1200 at the time
Jack The bum tickler yeah I was insuring a 620 turbo at the same age for the same price. However a zr160 was 1800+. Not worth it for the lacklustre performance imo
Nathan Smith I wish they put that 2.0 lump in the zs it would of amazing and probably a more desirable car these days
Jack The bum tickler T series is a great lump, the amount of people that thought it was a k series though. People are just sheep haha. Mk2 ZS is a great looking car, never owned or even been in one though.
Nathan Smith if you get the chance drive one they handle amazing especially on standard suspension i made the mistake when buying my second one with lowering springs.
You would be surprised how quick they are I could keep up with a mk5 gti and shocked a few people when they would get up my ass
I bought a 1.4 trophy in the summer, I only wanted something cheap to get me to work and back. For £380, I’ve spent £25 for a new radiator, £45 for a new starter and it’s the most fun I’ve had to drive since my corolla 1.6 twin cam... Saying that, it had around 75000 miles so very low mileage for car of it’s age and it does me for 300 miles a week, so it saves me a large payout when my new motor is up at the end of its finance agreement
Perfect car for any young enthusiast! Got one for my second car that I'm doing a build series on! Had high lift cams on the 1.4 and now it's a tuned 1.8 on coilovers with big brakes. Great to see the ZR getting attention!
One of my mates bought one of these in blue on a Y plate when they first came out in 2001. Very fast and made a great sound.
Watches two ads at the begining of the video and then sees almost an ad for every minute... *Puts CZcams train in reverse*
Hi could you tell me if this MG ZR model has a top tether anchor latch? thanks :)
This whole video was filled with ads i couldn’t even watch it all😂
Morgan Muleh if you watch a lot of CZcams , the CZcams premium is worth a look
New drinking game! The FYD challenge, shot of jäger every ad, bet you won’t last a video! 🤣😂
No disrespect to the owner or Jamie but none of them have any clue what they’re talking about. They really don’t know the cars. Firstly it’s not a 160bhp version from factory, they didn’t have heated seats, they have a choice of 3 different gearboxes and the 160bhp didn’t come with the short ratio box (might be wrong on that) and you definitely get a lot more than 25mpg out of them. They also don’t all have a magnex exhaust, it’s janspeed or xpower. They are also very costly to insure.
Tubzey pg1 G ratio box is the short one, I think some 160s come with it, 4000rpm at 70
I had an 03 160vvc le man's green , lotus Elise engine in them , I had the janspeed full system. It flew I had 145mph out of it racing a bike (in Mexico) few months later the head went so I replaced it and got it skimmed polished and ported and it was an animal after that , nice cars for their time
Nice review, I love my modified 25. This is a ZR 120+ though not a 160. :)
Think you should do a video on the 260 v8 zt and the zs 180 :)
Just for any young drivers get the 1.4 it’s cheaper and the 1.8 is same engine with more power hence why they break so often the 1.4 is a lot better for young drivers in every way
Exactly 1.4's and 1.6's don't blow headgaskets half as bad as the 1.8 seems to do.
I’ve had 2 since I was 17 made the mistake of crashing the first, second blew the engine (both 2.0td) then decided to finance a seat-I really do miss driving one though never cost me anything and never broke down, I did 38K in my first ZR
ive got an mg zs 120 with the same 1.8 but non vvc. its my first car its very cheap to insure and they're pennies to buy so that would be my recommendation.
I wanted one since I was about 6 years old and just got one for my first car, a 2005 1.8 160 facelift in really good condition. Has been taken to a lotus specialist for the last 5 years, and about 6 years ago it had a mls headgasket upgrade with new head bolts etc as a precautionary measure and has gone strong ever since so I'm hoping this is a great buy for only £1400.
whats that on the back seat?
As said before it's a 120hp model as I don't believe they made the zr+ in the 160hp model only standard trim, a much better car for the money/economy and insurance I would say is a corolla t sport? Can be got for sub £1,000 aswell and 190hp from a 1.8 n/a
nice to see one of these again, i replaced my nova sr with a zr 105+ may years ago, that then ended up being built as a high compression forged 1.8 on vvc head with jenvey throttle bodies and piper 285cams made a tad over 190bhp and was great fun. My only gripe with them was the seating position was awful felt like you were sat on them and not in them if ya get me. Land rover mls headgasket is a must as you say. My old one had a blueflame system on it that sounded fantastic coupled with the janspeed 4-2-1 manifold and decat. And im sure it may of been pointed out already but thats not a 160 its a 120 fella. 160s had the pg1 gearbox also
I agree on the seating position, way too high from factory.
Pg1 is also used in the 120! It's the 105 that uses the ib5 gearbox. Believe the diesel also uses the pg1 but with slightly different drive shafts
Sell the rear lights & fit standards would look so much nicer! Would make a good track car tbf
I'm thinking about changing them back to stock but have a few bits that need sorting first
Rob Sawyer yeah will look tidy with standards, good base tho
For the money I paid for her, she's not that bad. Paint imperfections and the rust on the arch
Rob Sawyer yeah can always sort them bits out tho + they becoming less and less nowadays I used to have a zt+ not seen one the same since I sold it!
I've not seen many others around. Over where I live, I think there's 4 zr's. More than likely the head has gone on most of them or they've just rotted away 😂😂
How’s the insurance on this
So got this a matter off months ago this EXACT model! Red ZR+ 1.4 though! After just 4000 miles my head gasket has gone, only found out today and I truly devastated 😭 had someone properly check my car out as well in the lane next to me appreciating my little beauty and now I may have to say RIP after not even a year off owning it!
Miss V learn to fix it! I did the head gasket on my MG a few months back and it’s not a hugely difficult job.
@@emmajacobs5575 😂😂😂 this is my 1st car I know nothing about them and don't have the time to learn either 😭
@@MissVdnb head gaskets aren't that expensive to replace on MGs really. Cars aren;t normally worth much either of course, but then if you like your car and it is otherwise solid, I think it is worth getting it done. If scrapped or sold, you would only have to buy another car, which could also be trouble.
@@mattylamb9194 since this post I had k seal put Into it had no other problems and had other opinions on it to and it's been through MOT recently too and passed with flying colours no adiv. Turns out the head gasket wasn't even blown... I had Halfords tell me it had and I should scrapp the car. (CUNTS) maybe it was spark plugs 🤷🏻♀️
@@MissVdnb - yeah, these chain store garages can be real con merchants. Good to hear this anyway!
Had a 1.4 105bhp can vouch for the leaky sun roof but was a good car to drive nice direct feel from the steering
I've owned 2 and I'm currently looking for a 3rd.
Still look a gorgeous car even today
This was my first car and i miss him. I loved him so much❤
Hey! Just Wondering how was the insurance of one of these because I'am really thinking to get one.
Iv had too many rovers znd mg cars to recall. I still own a zs, i had a 1.8 zr, great car
2:12 South of £1k 😂 Just bought a 160 MOT'd 117k miles for £550
very late reply, but they are 2000 euro's where i live (netherlands), still i would rather pay 2000 for this than 2000 for a golf gti, because this thing is way more unique and actually has a soul if you know what i mean
I have a 1.4 ZR, Weirdly reg starting with BF03! And it was 8500 to insure, Now undergoing a full strip down rebuild ;) And my Dad drives a 160, And its cheaper, But 4500 isnt cheap.., Rolling in a Orion now ;)
£450 payed for my ZR+ last weekend. 100k miles, head gasket done ,similar to this one. bit better sun roof condition,, great fun , great sounding exhaust but addictive hammering through 2nd and 3rd gear, so really you can drink the fuel.
Im getting Brembo disk and pads fitted next weekend for £200 for all four corners. so not too pricey for brakes
My head gasket was done at 80k miles. As the video says these cars do suffer with paint lacquer peel. especially in THE Colour red , on the roof and spoiler.
Another thing to note is just the general build quality. given that its at 20 year old car nearly. there is quite a few cheap sounding rattles in the cabin.
contrary to popular belief these cars do not like being raced around. the engines really don't been driven like a rally car because of the reliability issues.
if you get hold of a good one for under £500 its worth it. as if its in good condition it will be worth more in parts.
Edit, pretty sure this isnt a turbo, but the 1.8 twin cam 120bhp
I was 19 had seat leon curpa r on 2004 plate was driving for like 4 months when I got it cost £1000 for years insurance fully comp with no black box and I live in a pretty shity area.
I had one of these when I was 18 fun little car for the two weeks I had it only cost me 800 pound to buy and 1200 to insure then went back to my 1.4 mg zr until I was twenty since the 160 died two weeks in to owning it 😂😂
Don’t these have head gasket problems?
If you don't get the head skimmed and a multi layer land rover head gasket, this has thankfully
Oh okay that’s good then 🔥
Very fast cars for what they are had a silver 1.8 160 vvc with a straight through exhaust and an air filter did 140 in it on the autobahn before it over heated
But the head gasket 😂 had the rover 200 and it happened twice. Scrapped it in the end. Although that was the 1.4 twin cam model.
I’ve had a few zr’s over the years. They make a great induction noise with the right cone filter fitted. I would have another one in a heartbeat except for the fact that it’s hard to find a decent one these days for less than £2500-£3000 which is mad because for not much more you can get a slightly ropey ep3 which will probably be more reliable and more fun.
The mg is a lot more rare though
Had MG zs very fast car Did have to get rid of it when had 3 head gaskets . Spent 450 pounds and within 4 hours I could smell petrol again inside car . But drove Rover 800 Montego and many other cars . They made some good cars in there time.
I’m 16 and I’ve got one of these, the insurance is going to be about £2100 but I mainly use it for the track, and I’m getting a new Audi A1 to drive daily.
the zr’s are good fun cars but they aren’t very reliable or comfy
How is a 16 year old affording all that
jacob mills got the ZR for my 16th birthday, have had a job since I was 15 and now have my own reliable source of income at 16
@@chazzftw9313 got your head screwed on. Nice one lad
jacob mills i like to think that haha, thanks
Good car, but I couldn't get insured on it as a first car. Ended up sucking it up and getting a 1.2 03 clio
Good little cars though, peppy little 1.2 as well.
So much shite info it’s laughable. This is a 120+, not a 160.
There was no such thing as a 160+, the 160 came with all of the good stuff as standard.
The ‘+’ gave you a leather steering wheel, front fogs, electric windows & mirrors, seat height and lumbar adjustment and the electric sunroof.
The wheels and skirts were options regardless of if it was a ‘+’ or not. This particular car has the poverty spec Matrix seats, the better seats were the Monacos.
Head gaskets aren’t quite as bad as they are made out to be, they are easy to fix and only need doing once. Leaking sunroofs can be fixed without buying new glass. Body rust is the worst issue to fix on these cars.
They handle very well and have always given a great performance per price ratio. As well as being a lot of fun.
Michael Brannighan well said mate. Your comment on the specs is spot on. I used to sell this brand new when I worked for an MG Rover dealer from 2001-2004 so I really know a lot about them 🙂 and you are spot on mate 👍🏻
P1MKF
Thanks. I bought mine new 16 years ago and I’ve Still got it.
It’s one of those cars which is underrated and also has a lot of incorrect information on it. I try to put the duff info right where I can.
No sunroofs available on 160s though.
Matty Lamb the 160 could be specced with a sunroof, even though the 160 had air con as standard.
Spot on. Great comment.
Haha dont be stupid guys ;) there is no add, i dont have it :) i have also MG ZR 160 HP, but is chipped on 180hp and is GREAT car !!
I miss my old my zr 160 fantastic car handles great 😄
Yeah - they do handler well. B roads are definitely where they shine. The 160 sin;t great around town. Gearbox can feel a bit baulky, not that easy to drive smoothly below 30mph. But that gearbox feels great when you are hassling the car. I love the steering as it feels direct, (turning circle of a barge mind you) and the throttle is very responsive when you step on it. It's a car that thrives on high revs - just don;t do it before the engine has warmed up!
Oh and the seats are superb. Comfortable and very supportive
@@mattylamb9194 My 1.4 version is very nice! :) they are a unique hot hatch for sure. You can’t be a true enthusiast unless you like these
I wish they had these in the States, they look so badass
You must be joking
@@samb394
No, you must be, Sammy.
@@samb394 I’m actually not lol they look better than half the shit we have here
Nice mirror change the colour!!! Headlining falling down gotta be cheap!
Get a N series gasket set with uprated bolts and head gasket problems will go away
Headgaskets only cost £350 to replace along with timing belts etc, £50 if you’re doing it yourself and haven’t cooked the head (without timing belts)
Only £350? The car is worth about £100
Sam Burton yeah a shit one is, £350 is fuck all in terms of car repairs if you think about it though
If most you think similar power cars are “ cheap “ then please tell me what insurance companies your using I’m 20 soon and will have 2 yours no claims and looking for quotes for in next few months most quotes are £2500+.
glad I didn't turn my ad blocker off....brake discs aren't standard btw....don't expect too much from an MG ffs
On the 160's they are i believe
Rear brake discs are standard on the 160
@@d31zzz_ - indeed they are
@@d31zzz_
And the 120. Drums on the 1.4 and low power diesels.
OP, don't expect much from MG? Even the base model 1.4 was polybushed from factory and featured a quicker steering rack. Along with stiffer lower springs and different damper valving.
The 1.8 plus model is 120 bhp. The 1.8vvc model is 160 ps not hp
I have the same car !!!! ilove soo much this car y have 23
All the people upset about ads. Adblock+desktop=no ads.
Nice! I own a MK1 ZS 180. 2.5L V6 should definitely look at one of those next! Would even bring mine down..
Drives like a lotus Elise great car for the price 👌
They are expensive for young drivers spaz, i tried to insure one at 18 was 4500
Uhh sure mate, when i went to insure this is was about the same as insurance for a fucken vw lupo 1.0
@@ryanhodgkin7475 No you moron, they genuinley are expensive to insure based on location... in the midlands you'm looking 2-3k + for a young driver.
Not a 160 either it’s a 120.....
They are nice..a classic now...🚙💨😀🔝👍
They are trash
@@Roadwarrior92
Hush you bender.
@@skylined5534 awww you OK honey? Somebody hurt your feelings?
@@Roadwarrior92
Your dad, he doesn't want to be exclusively mine anymore. Your mum does though so I'm OK, thanks babe 💋
@@skylined5534 you need to lay off the window licking. Plus she ain't into kids that drive rover's that are pink 🤣
And if you bring the engine to me I can get 500bhp+ out of them so you can add power as you get older and more experienced
As much as i appreciate your tuning ability, 500 bhp... in a fwd car that's basically a honda concerto underneath, sounds kind of dangerous.
Only going up in value
I really wanted one of these as my first car but I saw sense and stayed away.
@@v4-goose147 - yeah, they aren't nearly as unreliable as people say they are. I believe Rovers, (close cousins obviously), had a very good MOT pass rate too
@@v4-goose147 what was your insurance?
Damn damn cheap to insure with FOOTMAN JAMES.... its a classic... costs me 155 quid per year for 4000 miles
Got a 1.4 zr mk2 it’s gonna cost 3700 to insure
They should of put the BM diesel in the this out of the 75, would of been ace
No need they came with an l series diesel. Bullet proof engine which is easily tuned to make good power
Blue window mirrors add 5hp each
She has 2 blue mirrors now so extra 10 😂😂😂
First car?? Cheap insurance?? Fuck off most young drivers (17-20 yo) won’t even get a quote and if they do it’ll be like £400 like I got quoted 😂
I was looking forward to this but it was unfortunately spoilt by the constant sound editing clips.
This car got a proper walk around and twice as long video as the ecobeast....
title just doesent make sense, i bought one of these before i passed my test as a project and when i passed i went to insure it and it was like 2.7k with a black box and over 4k without.... you cant just assume every young driver can afford these cars your saying they should buy.
was that a 1.8 one?
My grandad has a blue one lol
So have I!
It sounds like a k20 that never actually kicks.
Basically is, when british leyland made the rover and mg zr they were in a partnership with honda which is why theyre somewhat similar
@@ryanhodgkin7475 it's got nothing to do with a K20 engine bro... it's literally a honda concerto...
Way too many advertisement recently I haven't watch a video in ages and ain't gonna start now but good luck with future I'm unsubscribing
Thats a 120 not a 160!
high insurance though
Not even a + is it? Im sure the + has a differant front end and dash
You're thinking of the mk2, this is a face lift of the mk1
My mate had one of these when we were 18-19 back in 2004. It was a fucking shed then. Fun to drive, vastly unreliable, expensive to run / insure... and the old guy opposite my house had a Rover 25 in maroon.
Recommending this (and other cars you've done so far) is fallacy. As is the number of ads on your videos. Come on Jamie, ffs.
This is my favourite series because every car that’s been featured in this car for first time or young buyers is going to be far from an affordable drive and it makes me laugh
get rid of the blue mirrors, and we got a deal
Think you will find that isn't a 160 only a 1.8 120.
Same had 1 in grey first car shame head gastkets are shit
A skimmed gasket? lol
zr 120
I love your vids Jamie but the adverts bro 😢 please stop!
I had a mg zr160 what a complete heap. The bloke I bought it from spent upwards of £1000 having the engine rebuilt after the cambelt snapped. New head which turned out to be cracked the engine when I bought it lasted 3 months before it blew up. They are rust buckets they go round the rear boot lock and the front wings. They probably go in other places but I didn’t keep it long enough to find out
So you bought a cheap questionably maintained model and you're an expert on them? Seems logical.
@@skylined5534 who said it was a cheap car???? Perhaps you want to read my comment again where I said it had upwards of £1000 having the engine rebuilt after the cambelt snapped. Was unfortunate because the owner at the time actually had it booked in to have the belt replaced it just went before he got it to the garage. That included uprated mls head gasket and everything to bulletproof the engine. Just a shame the head that was purchased was faulty. I no they are rust buckets because every one I’ve seen has rust in exactly the same places as mine did.
@@RossYoung1986
Monetary cost doesn't bear much resemblance to work carried out. As an MG specialist I'll happily corroborate your account on the proviso you can offer up mode evidence of your experience though.
You clearly bought a dog which wasn’t looked after mate!
1.8 engine is way to much for first car u need 1.2 max
my first car is Mondeo 1.8
All I'm saying is when u are young the insurance is like crazy crazy crazy and u need to be careful of what car u get
@@dariusparker894 True I think the only reason I got a 1.8 Mondeo is because is more of a old person car its not a car a normal 17 year old would go a buy as a first car
@@orp.olly_ yes I see what u mean it's not a usual car young people would get
@@dariusparker894 If this is what you want they did do the same car in 1.4 it looks the same and the engine sounds pretty much the same
I've heard somewhere that albanian ricers drive this car
What a nail. Couldn't even be arsed to clean the thing.
That's 400 quid
It’s a 120 bhp one dead asf loool
does look like a 1.6 twin cam and not a turbo
You clearly have no clue about cars and how power is distributed.
Vehicle Details
ManufacturerMGModelZr+ColourRedVehicle TypeCarFuel TypePetrolEngine Size1796ccBHP120 BHPVehicle Age16 years 7 monthsRegistered Date18 March 2003Registered NearBirmingham / BirminghamYear2003
😂😂😂This guys a complete melt you got sold a 120+ for just under a grand there worth fuck all. That's the details of total car check. 160s are rare now and not under a grand.
? Fyd you've made yourself look a right twat... how can you be a car guy 🤔 and get sold a 120 thinkin it was a 160. 😂😂😂 Who ever sold you that is laughing there worth about 300 quid 😭🤣
@@mitic82
Ayup, helmet head.
9 ads in a 10 minute video LOL
HGF
Said the sheep.
I own this car and I want Jamie to review this car again it is now running around 160 bhp non vvc and I feel this review does not do this car justice at all it has been off the road for a while getting some much needed TLC and still needs more especially the bodywork