How to fix video card sag FOR FREE!

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  • @TheZoenGaming
    @TheZoenGaming Před 4 lety +1992

    I feel that more high end cases, anything over USD$100, should have integrated GPU support brackets.

    • @hakemon
      @hakemon Před 4 lety +132

      You know what's funny, is the original IBM PC 5150, literally had such a thing for bigger cards. Somewhere along the lines manufacturers removed it.

    • @karmabad6287
      @karmabad6287 Před 4 lety +167

      but BRO!!! that might cost the manufacturer an extra 2 cents of profit!!

    • @AdultsAreTalking
      @AdultsAreTalking Před 4 lety +108

      Actually the GPU's themselves should come with the brackets.
      MSI has started doing this with some of their video cards as a matter of fact.

    • @UncraftedPlays
      @UncraftedPlays Před 4 lety +7

      same. I once had an Omen X and it had the most epic high end double support for both GPUs.

    • @laukaskiemas4930
      @laukaskiemas4930 Před 4 lety +5

      Zalman z3 plus, got it 3 year ago for 30 dollars and it's got a special gpu support arm

  • @kevinmeijer4534
    @kevinmeijer4534 Před 5 lety +1079

    I dont even have the money for sagging gpu's, why am I watching this lol

    • @katech6020
      @katech6020 Před 4 lety +18

      I don't even have a discrete GPU

    • @novoid69
      @novoid69 Před 4 lety +4

      Pure gold!

    • @johncasler7848
      @johncasler7848 Před 4 lety +1

      @Danica Daniel what would help the sag from that is send me some..... LMAO jk a bank would help or if you don't trust banks try a safe or my preference a shovel and waterproof lockbox

    • @jamminout7671
      @jamminout7671 Před 4 lety

      @Danica Daniel sounds like somebody needs a high interest loan

    • @adamalatalo7381
      @adamalatalo7381 Před 4 lety

      Same

  • @addledhead
    @addledhead Před 3 lety +183

    Dude is just cranking away at those cards lol.
    "See this sag? We don't want that."
    *Proceeds to bounce the card up and down violently

    • @beartackle
      @beartackle Před 3 lety +12

      LOL, so true. My heart dropped everytime he kept moving it so much. What's nice is that it shows how durable those cards are. Even if it's sagging or violently moved up and down... It still works!

    • @MachineryActual
      @MachineryActual Před 2 lety +1

      They're surprisingly strong actually

  • @JacobBite
    @JacobBite Před 4 lety +1019

    lego pillar.
    that is all

    • @damon_9458
      @damon_9458 Před 4 lety +14

      Right there

    • @braedenbedford9055
      @braedenbedford9055 Před 4 lety +34

      i use my lego han solo in carbonite piece, works perfect and gets swag points too

    • @noemiej.marquis732
      @noemiej.marquis732 Před 4 lety +32

      Nothing a Lego can't fix. Heck, I've seen someone build a case entirely out of Lego, chip in the mobo and screw it through Lego pieces that already had holes in them.

    • @ForeverDoubting
      @ForeverDoubting Před 4 lety +1

      Also looks pretty cool imo :D

    • @zealous8992
      @zealous8992 Před 4 lety +1

      HAHA damn, I knew I wasnt the only one

  • @yeti8it396
    @yeti8it396 Před 6 lety +2354

    Personally I think the GPU manufacturers should ship each GPU with a GPU Viagra . Problem solved .

    • @afrog2666
      @afrog2666 Před 6 lety

      2Pacca :D

    • @tfkoincognito
      @tfkoincognito Před 6 lety +76

      That would add some stiff competition.

    • @SkullRAIDZ
      @SkullRAIDZ Před 6 lety +40

      It's not that easy, it's really a *hard problem* to solve

    • @oscarbanana6159
      @oscarbanana6159 Před 6 lety +4

      GPU banana hammock

    • @tlove21
      @tlove21 Před 6 lety +3

      That would probably do some hard damage.

  • @TheInsomnatech
    @TheInsomnatech Před 6 lety +1183

    @JayzTwoCents - years ago back in 2011 I found your Channel and I sent you a friend request so we could start playing Battlefield 3 together. You had maybe a few hundred subcribers then and I got to play with you a couple of times. We never spoke but I wanted you to let you know that your story and your channel inspired me to create my channel and start creating content.

  • @smokeyb7379
    @smokeyb7379 Před 4 lety +511

    I'm gonna buy a spiderman figure and make it look like he's hanging from the top of the case and webbing the gpu to take the sag away.

  • @EadieCD
    @EadieCD Před 5 lety +225

    "So what I would usually do... is drop the screw" Looks like you've been hanging out with Linus too much

  • @HardwareCanucks
    @HardwareCanucks Před 6 lety +1548

    BRILLIANT! Thanks Jay

    • @stevemason6146
      @stevemason6146 Před 6 lety +4

      Ditto, ditto in deed.
      Thanks Jay, and thanks for H/WCanucks for the comment piggyback. :)

    • @gcKukie
      @gcKukie Před 6 lety +10

      I go upwards with my power connectors through the tray and use the tension of the wire to help as well.

    • @tannerclark7775
      @tannerclark7775 Před 6 lety +2

      thats genius also

    • @በተሰበ
      @በተሰበ Před 6 lety +3

      I just wedge my house cat up under that thing and works great.

    • @careditor
      @careditor Před 6 lety

      Some kind of genius smarty guy!

  • @KaptainCnucklz
    @KaptainCnucklz Před 6 lety +367

    My brother's card sagged to a point of not connecting to the mother board. After trying everything I could, including this, and it would still not stop sagging, I said fuck it and just laid the case on it's side. Ez fix.

    • @vespaman101
      @vespaman101 Před 6 lety +19

      damn dude. his socket might be damaged now. do u have any other cards to try with?

    • @Kenopy
      @Kenopy Před 5 lety +44

      or go cardless and rely on integrated graphics.

    • @darknorth239
      @darknorth239 Před 5 lety +48

      @@Kenopy yeah no.

    • @NNYYLL
      @NNYYLL Před 5 lety +12

      @@Kenopy might as well get a console, pleb

    • @Kenopy
      @Kenopy Před 5 lety +35

      @@NNYYLL no thanks, I don't think you understand what a joke is

  • @Marauder1981
    @Marauder1981 Před 4 lety +103

    "So this is where you fix your sack"
    Me a 40 year old: "Go on..."

    • @gamingmadesimple5510
      @gamingmadesimple5510 Před 3 lety +2

      I see the hearing is also starting to be affected... you my friend have a long, hard road ahead of you. Just be careful, some people will try to take advantage of a man hard of hearing and stiff you.
      I couldn't fit any more innuendos in, I'm ashamed of my night time performance. Perhaps I can try again in the morning with a pre-work quickie.

    • @ppmghee211
      @ppmghee211 Před 3 lety

      @@gamingmadesimple5510 🤣

  • @Flyingsquirrel69420
    @Flyingsquirrel69420 Před 4 lety +712

    There was waaay to much unnecessary shaking of expensive gpu's.

    • @Frawt
      @Frawt Před 4 lety +13

      @Darius Beaumont The cost of a graphics card doesn't matter anyway, 'cause these cards are stress tested for much higher tolerances. There's a video about Kepler cards that shows Nvidia testing that.

    • @leandrofod
      @leandrofod Před 4 lety +21

      Shaking is not even close to harming it physically (the actual gpu or even the pcb, only maybe the output connectors shield), different from direct impact which may actually damage it. Waving/wiggling it around does nothing, as everything is in place. Also unless it's a strong force that it might deform the shield enough to start hurting the pcb, but it still takes way too much strenght to actually damage the pcb

    • @vincebird7124
      @vincebird7124 Před 4 lety +7

      I'm more disappointed there was no sexual innuendo about the shaking of the gpus when he kept on with the "hole" jokes.

    • @viperlife914
      @viperlife914 Před 4 lety

      @@Frawt send i wanna see

    • @smokerg4l762
      @smokerg4l762 Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/sjiJ_B0yIMw/video.htmlm20s

  • @KrifzyGaming
    @KrifzyGaming Před 6 lety +72

    You can always resort to putting legos under it, like I did ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

    • @Kobeboy15
      @Kobeboy15 Před 5 lety +7

      imgur.com/a/WRIffJK
      Used a chopstick under mine XD

    • @S3ANZ13
      @S3ANZ13 Před 5 lety

      Nice

  • @jdparker3
    @jdparker3 Před 6 lety +54

    "GPU erectile dysfunction" earned that like.

  • @surg23
    @surg23 Před 5 lety +168

    This is like root-canal therapy for PC's. They certainly won't enjoy it, but it will benefit them in the long run.

  • @addydiesel6627
    @addydiesel6627 Před 4 lety +33

    Whether you tighten the traditional screws, or apply Jay's method of screws behind the card, you are stressing the joint between the graphics PCB and backplate. It depends. How much stress do you want to lay off the pcei socket versus the graphics pcb. On the other hand a Suspender and hooks releases all types of stress 😉

  • @TechByMattB
    @TechByMattB Před 6 lety +343

    Mine's not big enough to sag :(

    • @traumerei9723
      @traumerei9723 Před 6 lety +2

      same here

    • @fr3gl3ss54
      @fr3gl3ss54 Před 6 lety +82

      Its not about the size, its how you use it

    • @radek_jurzysta
      @radek_jurzysta Před 6 lety +32

      That’s what my flat chested ex-girlfriend said

    • @afrog2666
      @afrog2666 Před 6 lety +1

      You should see someone about that xD
      Maybe Jay will make it sway, l0l

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust Před 6 lety +1

      i bet you get plenty of emails containing ways to remedy that!

  • @forgotn42
    @forgotn42 Před 6 lety +119

    The wedge you're using for the second set of cards looks a hell of a lot better than the sag stands.

    • @spectrelex3051
      @spectrelex3051 Před 6 lety +2

      forgotn1 well, duh. You can't even see it, unlike a sag stand. This is much better than a stand.

    • @BigBahss
      @BigBahss Před 5 lety

      I always thought those stands were stupid as hell

  • @Rower-nb1ru
    @Rower-nb1ru Před 4 lety +78

    I have make I little Lego "tower" that support the corner from the side that goes down

  • @harleyme3163
    @harleyme3163 Před 4 lety +27

    simple way.. put your case on its side.... now you have a "desktop" instead of a "tower" lol

  • @hyo_rim
    @hyo_rim Před 6 lety +92

    4:55 "It's actually not a hole, its just a slut" - JayzTwoCents 2017

  • @bashmohandes
    @bashmohandes Před 6 lety +84

    This is when having a 3D printer comes super handy :)

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 6 lety +3

      To print the exactly fitting piece to put into the gap? Would also be nice for a custom backplate. Heck, even a cover for the cooler is possible.

    • @tfkoincognito
      @tfkoincognito Před 6 lety +54

      Yeah but finding a 3D printer that would fit in there is the problem.

    • @Peter-wr1fb
      @Peter-wr1fb Před 6 lety +1

      tfkoincognito lol

    • @mikeerickson4750
      @mikeerickson4750 Před 6 lety +1

      3d printers are overrated. I can make nearly everything a 3d printer can make by hand, with less headache and less time fucking around.

  • @Bry.89
    @Bry.89 Před 6 lety +183

    Uh physics dude.. if weight is causing it to sag on one end, you don't wedge the other end unless you want to add more pressure to the center. You don't wanna do that with a GPU, because then you're just adding even more pressure to the PCI-E lane. So thats why they sell GPU brackets, because it supports the end where the sag occurs, not the end already supported.
    You're just adding more pressure, and thus while your sag may be gone, it's putting more strain on your PCI-E lane.. rip.

    • @Atlink
      @Atlink Před 6 lety +17

      Funny, I was thinking the same thing. Sure, it'll help in a pinch, but I believe that even more weight is being applied to the PCI-E port, since that's acting like the fulcrum in this case. The best way to fix sag is to balance out the pressure. So, going back to the beginning, the corner that's drooping IS the problem.
      Let's look at it like this. You have a five pound weight attached to the end of a two foot long metal pole. Imagine you need to hold this pole straight out in front of you, arm extended. Where would you pick it up to make it easiest to hold?
      If you picked up the pole at the opposite end of the weight, your arm would be wrenched downward substantially faster than it would if you grabbed it next to the weight, or even on top of the weight.
      Same concept applies here. You want to eliminate the source of the downward force, which is the large area that is completely unsupported. All this is doing is adding more torque to the card and the PCI-E slot.

    • @TJeremiah
      @TJeremiah Před 5 lety +22

      @@Atlink Figured I would play the devil's advocate here. When the gpu is installed normally, and the sag is present, the GPU pins are not level inside of the PCI-E lane. It would seem like there would be pressure points on the top left and bottom right of the GPU pins. While it is true that more pressure will be applied to the PCI-E lane when the screw mod is present. The pressure will be distributed more evenly. Much like a person standing on ice will break through, but while lying down the ice can hold the weight. Just a thought.

    • @Bakkefication
      @Bakkefication Před 5 lety +23

      It's a GPU, not a bridge

    • @faffabout9412
      @faffabout9412 Před 5 lety +24

      As Jay showed in the video, the point of tension is not on the 3.0x16 slot, hence when he moved the card back and forth it tipped corner to corner. The problem as displayed is the mounting hardware for the IO, which is plenty strong enough to hold the card if it were fixed properly to the plate. The only way to reduce stress is to reduce weight or displace the weight more evenly, both things you cannot do without reworking the crappy design. So it makes no difference as far as stress goes, it just makes the card look less shitty

    • @rapinternational6752
      @rapinternational6752 Před 5 lety +3

      Very true

  • @VanilloBumbleboo1981
    @VanilloBumbleboo1981 Před 4 lety +214

    "Shitty" solution here: That little cardboard tube leftover from toilet paper is my GPU sag-fix actually. Yes, in a 2500 € PC.
    EDIT: I rebuilt the system and I'm using a Phanteks anti-sag GPU bracket in the Evolv X now. The sag issue is no more.

    • @finstor3386
      @finstor3386 Před 4 lety +12

      I just snipped a wide plastic straw to length. I dont have a see through case, I dont care what the inside of my PC looks like, so this works fine for me.

    • @VanilloBumbleboo1981
      @VanilloBumbleboo1981 Před 4 lety +1

      @@finstor3386 Good solution there, if, yes, if one DOES NOT care about the looks. I'm caring too much maybe.

    • @piratmitholzbein
      @piratmitholzbein Před 4 lety +14

      @@VanilloBumbleboo1981 I build a little tower of lego where my gpu rests on xd

    • @VanilloBumbleboo1981
      @VanilloBumbleboo1981 Před 4 lety +1

      @Paul Osc Slots Oh, that would totally defeat my obvious fear of changing from air cooling to water cooling... ; )

    • @VanilloBumbleboo1981
      @VanilloBumbleboo1981 Před 4 lety +1

      @@piratmitholzbein Von dieser Methode habe ich schon öfter gelesen. Die Klorolle ist mir doch lieber weil weicher. Kratzt nicht am Lüfterrahmen. Irgendwann muss aber doch eine salonfähige Lösung her. Vertikal fällt aber aus.

  • @Reaperman4711
    @Reaperman4711 Před 6 lety +16

    Oh great--a problem I never knew I had, and now I can't 'unsee' it.

  • @Sphyxx
    @Sphyxx Před 6 lety +501

    But first you need a sagging gpu.

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Před 6 lety

      NytOnPeliAika true

    • @insulterify
      @insulterify Před 6 lety +7

      Oof

    • @badsanta69
      @badsanta69 Před 6 lety +33

      As you get older, it happens.

    • @flukshun
      @flukshun Před 6 lety +5

      with the wonders of modern technology it's now possible to get a relatively low performance card with plenty of sag, for all your unsagging needs.

    • @seanmcc09
      @seanmcc09 Před 6 lety

      NytOnPeliAika just plug it in loosely

  • @badup8
    @badup8 Před 3 lety +11

    Bwahahahaha - me watching Jay talk about how large the 1080ti is in 2021

    • @rzfszn
      @rzfszn Před 3 lety

      wdym it is still, an rtx 3090 strix edition is miles more smaller than a 1080ti 👀

  • @cloudofthought
    @cloudofthought Před 3 lety +15

    Me every time Jay wiggles the GPU: 😬 "No no no no!"

  • @Joel-dp8zq
    @Joel-dp8zq Před 6 lety +76

    My nan used to sag until you showed me this now she has like 0 sag! Thanks again Jay

  • @Weezedog
    @Weezedog Před 6 lety +135

    Clearly the solution to sag is to develop and market a GPU bra

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 Před 6 lety +1

      Well that may look good if it suits the theme in the case. Add some red led's (or purple if you're into that could add a dildo in that case).

    • @killernukem5914
      @killernukem5914 Před 5 lety

      Giggity

    • @nativekydgaming1644
      @nativekydgaming1644 Před 5 lety

      It has to have rgb though 😆

    • @jackal4392
      @jackal4392 Před 5 lety

      MSI 2080ti lightning z foreshadowing

  • @johnwohlheter601
    @johnwohlheter601 Před 4 lety +5

    I mean if you think about back in the day when the GPU mounting standard was invented. GPU's weighed nothing. They were barely more than a PCB with a tiny fan on top. Today we have giant 3 fan cards and water cooled sweetness that put to much weight on the mounting setup and PCI slot. I really wish case manufacturers would take this into account and ship cases with universal GPU supports. Who wants their sweet RGB lights showing off your GPU sag? LOL...Nobody!
    I run a meshify C case but I have been thinking about swapping to a case where the motherboard sits flat on its back. That way GPU sag, as well as any stress the CPU cooler is putting on the socket is eliminated. Something like a cooler master HAF XB or the Thermaltake Core V21.

  • @AtariBorn
    @AtariBorn Před 5 lety +23

    Just swap your GPU out for a GeForce 210, done.

  • @Zermelo
    @Zermelo Před 6 lety +5

    I have to say, I haven't watched your videos in a while simply because the content or advice given seems to have been done to death on other tech channels or older videos of yours. However, this was a genuinely helpful tip: Simple, aesthetic, and well demonstrated. Big thumbs up. This should be the first video that comes up under the youtube search "sagging video card".

  • @tinderbox218
    @tinderbox218 Před 6 lety +202

    There needs to be a rethink on motherboard and PCI-E design.

    • @rchotrodder1
      @rchotrodder1 Před 6 lety +15

      Tinderbox motherboards use to mount from the other side of the case with the expansion slots on bottom so the card would be fan up. This way the card mounting point would be under the weight. Never had this problem till these new cases came out.

    • @AzuriteCoast
      @AzuriteCoast Před 6 lety

      rchotrodder1 That's what I was thinking, why aren't the fans faced up?!

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 6 lety +6

      Ahh, the brie moment in time of BTX. It failed because it had compatability issues with the still existing ATX standards.
      Oh, and CPUs didn't used over 100W anymore. Welll, mostly.
      How about we go back to actual desktop cases, that way the card stands vertical.

    • @rchotrodder1
      @rchotrodder1 Před 6 lety

      Ian C. In an old hp case i have it does

    • @hxteng5348
      @hxteng5348 Před 6 lety

      vertical GPU mounts kinda solves the problem.

  • @nilespeterclemens8328
    @nilespeterclemens8328 Před 4 lety +42

    I always thought this was a bad design, and I am going for horizontal mounted cases so I don’t need to worry.

    • @kibbles5724
      @kibbles5724 Před 4 lety +2

      Probably the best workaround, but even with sag, PCI have tolerance for a little bit of flexibility.

    • @itzamedave6242
      @itzamedave6242 Před 4 lety

      Make your own I did

    • @vincebird7124
      @vincebird7124 Před 4 lety +1

      I did this with my old case and my old 1070 (now in my wife's machine). Now My 2070 sags a little (the reinforced PCIe is doing a decent job) but I might try something now. I would go back to horizontal but my new case has a glass panel that I don't trust my cats to stay off of.

    • @itzamedave6242
      @itzamedave6242 Před 4 lety

      @@vincebird7124 I built another vertical mounted motherboard case and it runs cool and quite just like my Silverstone Raven did

  • @fernandolardizabal458
    @fernandolardizabal458 Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks for the insights, Jay. This video is still valid and relevant! Can't believe 30xx cards have these issues! I got an ASUS 3060 TUF "Military Grade" Gpu that sags!!! That's pathetic! Haven't they take note on that already? Your last tip for rectifying the card is IMO the best: full contact on back/bottom for support should be a must for heavy and big cards.

  • @RamenLewis
    @RamenLewis Před 6 lety +18

    "You see it sag the second I popped it out"...

  • @theprofessor3339
    @theprofessor3339 Před 6 lety +58

    *Jay wiggles the ever living fuck out of 800 dollar gpu* Me: "Stop!! For the love god please stop!"
    Ps. Love these videos

    • @theprofessor3339
      @theprofessor3339 Před 6 lety +3

      A necessary sacrifice..

    • @erkiaas3231
      @erkiaas3231 Před 6 lety +5

      At least he doesn't drop those...

    • @Raven1024
      @Raven1024 Před 6 lety

      I mean, it's not going to hurt it.

    • @Puremindgames
      @Puremindgames Před 6 lety

      "ever living fuck"?
      Kids thesedays are so fucking dramtic

    • @Raven1024
      @Raven1024 Před 6 lety

      Indeed, always at least one person on these videos acting like PC parts are all glass roses.

  • @holo6883
    @holo6883 Před 4 lety +32

    I just put 2 cents in there when using the second method

    • @jPup_
      @jPup_ Před 4 lety +1

      Holo - brilliant 🙇🏼‍♂️

    • @plaguepartyy
      @plaguepartyy Před 4 lety +8

      was it jayz two cents.. or yours?

    • @jerryvanderweide2421
      @jerryvanderweide2421 Před 3 lety +1

      technically its not a free method anymore!

  • @marijunealejo1780
    @marijunealejo1780 Před 4 lety +6

    "GPU Erectile Dysfunction"
    Sounds like a legit medical term.

  • @augustcelineiii946
    @augustcelineiii946 Před 6 lety +244

    Was anyone else not overly concerned about their graphics card sag until watching this video? lol

    • @homiefromfl
      @homiefromfl Před 6 lety +6

      I've always noticed it and hated it. The first big card I had was a Radeon 6950HD that was heavy. Luckily, the case I had at the time had the HHD cage close enough that I could rig something up to make a bracket. I used the removable metallic faceplate of the optical drive and did a very slight 'z' curve to it to fit just under the card at the sagging end, and slipped the other end between two metallic parts on the HDD cage. It was perfect.
      Then I got a new case, and a new GPU. There is sag, but no HDD cage.
      Hell of a lot of airflow, though...

    • @Redbikemaster
      @Redbikemaster Před 6 lety

      My R9 290X says enough it has had electrical issues before. It's big

    • @beefstrokinoff
      @beefstrokinoff Před 5 lety +2

      It bothers the hell out of me.

    • @fu_ck1
      @fu_ck1 Před 5 lety +3

      I just got a huge urge to open up my case and make some MacGyver solution to the GPU

    • @palemacaroon4836
      @palemacaroon4836 Před 5 lety

      I only have a single slot card; the 3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 and I was always concerned with the amount of flex in the card

  • @battycrease2005
    @battycrease2005 Před 6 lety +8

    My grandma could use something to fix her sag.

  • @MyNarsa
    @MyNarsa Před 6 lety +59

    You solutions, may work for the looks, but takes no load of the PCI slot.
    in some cases can even increase that same load

    • @douglasfisher4068
      @douglasfisher4068 Před 4 lety +1

      Pedro Jesus what’s about the traditional LEGO stand or someone to hold it on one side. Would that take stress off

    • @alex_inside
      @alex_inside Před 4 lety +1

      @@douglasfisher4068 yes, you can also just get a GPU holder for 30 bucks and they even come with RGB.

    • @anhquanto7567
      @anhquanto7567 Před 4 lety +14

      @@alex_inside imma get that, cuz rgb will make the gpu last 50 years

    • @lalanihipali8675
      @lalanihipali8675 Před 3 lety +1

      Those GPU holders are down to around $15 with RGB and if you’re using a EVGA card you can even plug the holder into the RGB header on the end of the GPU and have it synch with the card’s light show. :)

  • @pranjulunrecognized
    @pranjulunrecognized Před 4 lety +6

    self weight of GPU is a Transverse Shear Load (it will cause a Bending Moment) and without putting support at both ends, it is not possible to make the sag on the right side zero.

    • @craigcousins9013
      @craigcousins9013 Před 4 lety +1

      pranjulunrecognized it won’t be 0, but it will be near to it (if done right), as the load will be massively reduced due to the additional support near the mounting area

  • @nerdbot4446
    @nerdbot4446 Před 6 lety +15

    Lay case flat. Boom. Done. For Free.

  • @bobbytheo
    @bobbytheo Před 6 lety +6

    I’ve got a gtx 1070 FTW in an NZXT Manta Case, and the 8 pin power cord going to the gpu actually holds up my card pretty well

  • @eltopograph2450
    @eltopograph2450 Před 4 lety +2

    Very good tip. If you consider that the design of the PCI cards is based on the desktop PC, which came onto the market 30 years ago and all "stood" vertically / high up, the designers did not really come up with new solutions.

  • @xXturbo86Xx
    @xXturbo86Xx Před 5 lety +8

    I just use a forked wooden stick to support it. It works great and it looks cool if you add a figure hanging by the neck. Got a theme going there.

    • @Owowkiller
      @Owowkiller Před 5 lety +1

      omg lmao

    • @danielgriffith8911
      @danielgriffith8911 Před 4 lety

      a pencil would work rather well, especially if your case has mesh on the floor above the PSU... sharpen the pencil to the proper length, place the point in the hole (mesh) and the eraser keeps it from slipping...problem solved.

  • @MTBScotland
    @MTBScotland Před 6 lety +240

    I went vertical - no more droop

    • @LtSheppardXxL
      @LtSheppardXxL Před 6 lety +8

      My thoughts exactly. im looking for a new case and thats high on the list of must haves

    • @MTBScotland
      @MTBScotland Před 6 lety +3

      LtSheppard I used the cooler master holder. You need 7 pci slots in your case for it to fit.
      ep1.pinkbike.org/p5pb15394119/p5pb15394119.jpg

    • @ColwellMarcus
      @ColwellMarcus Před 6 lety +2

      preview.ibb.co/jdzcVG/23905215_1611860715539970_2364372461839348117_n.jpg I have the Thermaltake Corep5 Case, comes with vertical mounting and one PCIe Riser

    • @Kylescudder
      @Kylescudder Před 6 lety +58

      And no more airflow.

    • @LtSheppardXxL
      @LtSheppardXxL Před 6 lety +2

      some cases yes, but the bracket he said he used places the card like 4 or 5 inches away from the side. some of the kits place them closer. with that much room your theoretically getting the same air as you were before as long as you have fans on the bottom of your case. you can choke a gpu thats installed normally with no fans blowing at it

  • @JETWTF
    @JETWTF Před 6 lety +6

    That doesn't take the load off of the PCI-E slot, the cards need to be supported at both ends to do that. The problem from a case manufacturers point of view is how to make a universal bracket to properly support the cards when every video card has it's own dimensions? There needs to be a standard set for them to be able to do that even if it is AMD and NVidia having their own standard.

  • @MrGuitargod91
    @MrGuitargod91 Před 4 lety +4

    You had me LMAO at ," I just thread it into the hole... Theres so many innuendos' in this video"

  • @astari24
    @astari24 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks, but I still prefer to use a zip tie attached around the power cords going diagonally up to the HDD cages for even more support that is free as well.

  • @bemused3865
    @bemused3865 Před 6 lety +5

    i use a little stack of my kids lego blocks. Also helps that you can choose which colour the blocks are so you will have a little prop which matches ur build

    • @jpfidalgo7
      @jpfidalgo7 Před 6 lety +1

      Yeah that's always cool, and a bit nostalgic. But I would add that every time you take some blocks, your kids deserve a new set xD

  • @marcuscoster6529
    @marcuscoster6529 Před 6 lety +18

    The PCIE slot is still taking all the stress from the weight of the card, I would recommend using this or a similar method for the tabs along with a physical support for the end of the card.

  • @TerryMundy
    @TerryMundy Před 5 lety +3

    Great idea! Thanks.
    I want to point out that this shouldn't be done while connected to any peripherals or power. Be sure to clean up any burs that may have been created while the self threading screw is tapped in place. Metal burs can ruin your day.

  • @MattTheriot
    @MattTheriot Před 5 lety +2

    I was really wondering where you were going with this video, I have to say that is actually quite an effective, free, novel approach! I don't think my MSI RX480 sags much, but I'll keep that in mind for my next build.

  • @smoloms
    @smoloms Před 6 lety +5

    The best way to prevent video card sag is to be too poor to buy one and just use integrated graphics. This option is also way more free than Jay's method.

  • @darcassan
    @darcassan Před 6 lety +8

    I've been trying to think of a reason to screw the rear end of my case; thanks!

    • @violett3520
      @violett3520 Před 6 lety +1

      Video card sag stick manufacturers HATE HIM. Watch befoee this video is taken down for good!

  • @Tubes78
    @Tubes78 Před 4 lety +6

    Late to the party but wanted to say this helped me out. Card is straight now.

  • @noire1001
    @noire1001 Před 5 lety +2

    I think they should standardise gfx card size and have a second mounting bracket on the end of the card that is then screwed into the case.
    Even if you wedge the cooler off the case or add the screw to the mounting slot, it still doesn't stop the pcb flexing, even with a thin metal top plate. Plus there is still a lot of weight being placed on the PCIe socket. A good strong L bracket on the opposite side of the care would totally solve the problem and I think its getting to the stage where it's needed.

  • @optimumtech
    @optimumtech Před 6 lety +183

    Mind = blown

  • @frealms
    @frealms Před 6 lety +5

    Pink Jay breaks immersion and is non-cannon.

  • @aovax6719
    @aovax6719 Před 5 lety +2

    Scooby got waves

  • @Xehemoth
    @Xehemoth Před 4 lety +1

    Your thumbnail looks like you gave a GPU a chocolate coating.

  • @Kentololable
    @Kentololable Před 6 lety +7

    You should have titled this video "I Fixed My Video Card Sag With 1 Simple Trick!'

    • @rickau
      @rickau Před 6 lety +1

      "PC Case Manufacturers Hate Him for This Trick"

    • @lacyron
      @lacyron Před 6 lety

      No they hate Jayz for EXPOSING their JUNKY, flimsy cases that they are selling us at premium prices. And why? Because gammers and modders care more about looks, rather than quality.

    • @Kentololable
      @Kentololable Před 6 lety +1

      Uhh dude, I think you missed the point...
      Also if they hate Jay I can only imagine what they think of Steve.

    • @lacyron
      @lacyron Před 6 lety

      Oh no, I got the point. I liked what you suggested about the title. But I meant this as an add-on to what "rickau's" said about the PC Case manufacture's hating Jayz. I agree they might hate him for revealing this trick, but I think that some of the other things that Jayz said about the case manufacture's. "lack of quality" and "sticking to an old design" that is at least 30 years old, is as telling of the manufactures attitudes of not caring to bother to UPDATE their design. Oh, and that gammers and modders and builders need to complain more to the case manufactures as well. IF we complained a little bit, they MIGHT design better cases. But probably not.
      BTW you said, "I can only imagine what they think of Steve", who is Steve?

    • @Kentololable
      @Kentololable Před 6 lety

      ...Again man, I think you missed the point.
      Y'see, it's a joke; old internet advertisements would say stuff like "Dermatologists hate her!" and "Learn how this woman took 30 years off with one simple trick!"
      I'm just appropriating the joke in the context of the video, and so was the other guy. Ie, we weren't being entirely serious.
      Although I'm inclined to agree. Case manufacturers are getting pretty lazy and trading proper air flow dynamics for aesthetics.
      As for Steve, he's a guy who has his own youtube channel called GamersNexus, does very thorough videos benchmarking and reviewing pc hardware. He also reviews cases, often shitting all over their design and features. You'd probably like it.

  • @janisir4529
    @janisir4529 Před 6 lety +9

    Lay your PC down -> no sag

    • @chakdefiji
      @chakdefiji Před 6 lety

      Jani SIr Pretty wasteful if you have tempered glass or an acrylic window.

  • @MarkJacksonGaming
    @MarkJacksonGaming Před rokem +2

    -- Way late to the party, but I have an Asus Strix 4090 coming. I'm just going to prop it. Seems to me the best way to take stress off the GPU PCB, and the slot itself.

  • @Fl0yd-
    @Fl0yd- Před 4 lety +6

    I lay the case down.
    No need for brackets if gravity is supporting it.

    • @thekingoffiction
      @thekingoffiction Před 4 lety

      This will eventually start to warp the mobo after a few years, seen it happen with 2 units with big dick gpu's.

    • @Leon_hm
      @Leon_hm Před 4 lety

      @@thekingoffiction also hope its a joke

  • @Nicolas-zo6rg
    @Nicolas-zo6rg Před 6 lety +7

    This is low-key a game changer

  • @FarrellMcGovern
    @FarrellMcGovern Před 6 lety +6

    The problem really stems from the fact that the PCI/PCI-E standard edge connector was designed for cases that sat flat, rather than in a tower orientation. So there is no support there...but the problem *used* to be mitigated by the fact that there used to be a hard standard for the length of expansion cards, and most cases had card guides to support the end of the card. But...standards for card lengths have become very...inexact, so now we have the problem you are addressing.

  • @rkfaithfulblade
    @rkfaithfulblade Před 4 lety

    I bought a solid acrylic cylinder and lined it up, marked it, cut it with a plastic-cutting disc on a drimmel, then torched the surface that I cut to glass it back over. Now it sits under the sagging corner and holds it perfectly level and doubles as a glowstick because it's right under the waterblocks RGB

  • @bren.r
    @bren.r Před 4 lety

    Fishing line method is by far the best. Cheap and easy to make micro adjustments to get it just right

  • @StreekG
    @StreekG Před 6 lety +5

    I drop the screw every time like you said, but i feel it doesn't help with the end result.
    This is great though, i had a home made solution which worked when i had my X58 G1 Assassin and GTX 780TI. I cut the end off a right angle sata connector, and glued a straight end from a sata connector to that, and it slot into the sata port right underneath the GPU and supported it, was pretty invisible. I wasn't worried about the stress on the sata port as it wasn't putting much weight from sagging.

  • @echomgm
    @echomgm Před 6 lety +3

    I simply use the 8-pin pcie cables. I pass it through a hole that is above the height of the card. Those cables are kept in place with zip ties from behind of chasis and hold the card very well.

  • @AG.Floats
    @AG.Floats Před 4 lety +1

    Backplates are ALSO to help keep the pcb clean and easier to clean also..

  • @joelthomas1585
    @joelthomas1585 Před 6 lety +5

    Don’t know why but I read that “FOR FREE” but in my mind in Golem’s voice

  • @stronkveak5917
    @stronkveak5917 Před 6 lety +3

    Both ways are excellent, good find jay

  • @kilroy7365
    @kilroy7365 Před 6 lety +16

    I died laughing when he said: See it sag the second I popped it out. lol

    • @jpfidalgo7
      @jpfidalgo7 Před 6 lety

      ^^^^^^UNDERRATED COMMENT RIGHT HERE!!!!^^^^^^

    • @ShroudedWolf51
      @ShroudedWolf51 Před 6 lety

      It was worth a slight chuckle, I suppose.

  • @Cigaro_
    @Cigaro_ Před 6 měsíci

    I just made a small wooden rectangle with the measurements on the card. If the small wooden rectangle was too tall I just sanded it down a bit. There you have it, without spending a cent.

  • @sirlurksalot4454
    @sirlurksalot4454 Před 4 lety +1

    That's nice trick, I've always used a Popsicle stick, I measure and cut it and paint it black and wedge it in at the right height on the corner that dips down. It's easy and free too

  • @WatchingFromHeaven
    @WatchingFromHeaven Před 6 lety +4

    I basicaly hung my card on psu cables, that were ziptied inside cable managment chamber )

  • @spicydeath82
    @spicydeath82 Před 6 lety +60

    uh oh, jay caught the Linus bug, now he has the dropsies.

  • @memphisraine
    @memphisraine Před 6 lety

    you saved me $40 as I was plannin of getting a bracket, lots of custom bracket manufacturer might hate you for this. But thank Jay! WE LOVE YOU! :)

  • @futureboy7653
    @futureboy7653 Před 6 lety

    You'd think that, by now, it would be abundantly clear to case manufacturers that PCI slots were never intended to serve as mechanical support of any weight, whatsoever. This is precisely why I mount all my builds with IO at the top of the case, with the GPU hanging vertically from the bracket. DIY Perks has a good example of this in his Silent PC build.

  • @dandel351
    @dandel351 Před 6 lety +8

    I fixed my sag problem by getting myself a case with a horizontal mobo tray. And Shazam!! no more sag problem....

  • @xaytana
    @xaytana Před 6 lety +8

    Jay, do you think this problem would be less of an issue if case manufacturers started using soft rubber grommets on the slots for the expansion card brackets? Rubber would be compressible enough to account for variations in widths and thicknesses, and wouldn't add too much to the cost of a case, but it would better locate and hold a card in place.
    Do you think the recent trend of vertical mounted cards is to prevent sagging while improving aesthetics?
    Also, if support at the other end of the card is needed, why not have a horizontal support coming out from the wall of the case that holds the motherboard? That'd look a lot better than vertical supports, could work for multiple cards, and wouldn't be too difficult to mod.

    • @MrBasisGuy
      @MrBasisGuy Před 6 lety +2

      Only way I see something like this being supported by case manufacturers is if it somehow costs the same or saves them on costs. I mean, It took a while before thumbscrews were even standard. The PCI/PCIE slot standard was not designed for cards with heavy heatsinks (or even heatsinks at all). The ATX standard has been around for a while and was conceived in an era where a GPU was not even invented yet -- and also, at the time, tower cases were not the norm, cases lay on their long sides.
      So these slots were actually created for vertical cards. The "trend" is just physics forcing the use of the slots as they were designed.

  • @ozoak
    @ozoak Před 4 lety

    Wayyyyyyy into necromancy here, digging up this old vid, but I have to say... who else remembers when majority of cases were still horizontal rather than vertical?
    Card manufacturers, and even case manufacturers despite moving to mostly vertical layouts, are using the same engineering that they had 40 years ago. It just has not changed.
    In a horizontal case there's no sag, so we could all go back to that for our high-end GPU rigs ;)

  • @KingKong-mp6gj
    @KingKong-mp6gj Před 5 lety

    my 9 year old Asus EAH5850 has a supporting bar made of steel which is installed across the whole length of the card and eliminates all sag. Considering this card has only an entry-level cooler by today`s standards, it baffles me why this seems to be some ancient and forgotten technology with modern 3-slot cards. it also looks good and has place for the manufacturer´s logo on it.

  • @SonnyMiller
    @SonnyMiller Před 6 lety +9

    LOL, "But what I usually do is",...
    "Drop The Screw!"🤣😃😄🤣 LMAOOOO, I was bustin' stitches when you dropped that screw because I do it every time I install a GPU!
    But, all jokes aside. Thanks for helping to find an awesome way to fix that ANNOYING gpu sag! Thanks Brother,

  • @themanluke9498
    @themanluke9498 Před 6 lety +4

    This GPU sag is hurting me inside. Nice video Jay! You have good methods for fixing stuff. You're awesome man.

  • @switch158
    @switch158 Před 2 lety

    I just put a 3080 into my computer and noticed some sag, before I found this video.
    I scanned around on my desk and spotted a fire giant miniature I had painted awhile back but never put away, it looked like just the right height. Turns out its shoulder fits perfectly into one of the contours on the end of the card and holds it just right. Now he lives in my case lol

  • @bjarnuhh971
    @bjarnuhh971 Před 5 lety +1

    fill your case to the top with apoxy

  • @DeadeyeGFX
    @DeadeyeGFX Před 6 lety +5

    I don't leave likes on videos, but I left a like on this shit. I love the convenience of this, and the fact that I don't have to have some stupid shit taking up room in my case.

  • @anikkundu9232
    @anikkundu9232 Před 6 lety +22

    Damn that's a ThioJoe kinda title right there...

  • @Daxter250
    @Daxter250 Před 4 lety +1

    i simply use a zipline to lift up my rx 5700 xt a bit ^^. the gigabyte oc has a small lil' hole at the back where ya can plug a zipline in that you can zip at the case hole used for cablemanagement.

  • @Will-W
    @Will-W Před 6 lety

    I use the twisty ties that come on cables to hang the corner that sticks out up to the top fan shroud. I'll give this a shot on my next build.

  • @Gahet
    @Gahet Před 6 lety +20

    *looks at his saggy GPU* It's ok buddy, it's not your fault.

  • @knightx09
    @knightx09 Před 6 lety +14

    I use the pcie power cable to pull it up a bit.

    • @unfunny2258
      @unfunny2258 Před 6 lety +2

      knightx09 that’s not a very good idea, could break the port

  • @animalyze7120
    @animalyze7120 Před 6 lety

    Never in a million years would I have thought to look at the slots in back of the Mobo. GENIUS! Thanks Jay

  • @darreng8583
    @darreng8583 Před 6 lety

    I would drill 2 holes near the end bottom M/B mount and place 2 bolts 1 on top 1 on bottom of the Video card to keep it in place. Second solution is have some sort of black PVC pipe mounted vertically from bottom case to the top and near the end of the GPU card cut a notch in it to have the GPU fit 1/2 way inside it and to keep it very stable and mostly make sure the black PVC pipe is pure black or use electric tape or gaffers tape to make it blacked out.