I Bought 7 BROKEN Graphics Cards to Try and Fix - I Was Disappointed

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Komentáře • 685

  • @Tronicsfix
    @Tronicsfix  Před rokem +693

    As I said at the beginning of this video, I'm no graphics card repair guru. I have no experience trying to fix them so this was just an experiment. If you're looking for good advice on how to repair graphics cards be sure to read the comments on this video as there is great advice from smart people.

    • @Penguin-gq7mp
      @Penguin-gq7mp Před rokem +32

      do more of these pc parts videos

    • @darkdsoul2038
      @darkdsoul2038 Před rokem +11

      I had that exact same 1080 ftw. 2 of em actually. both had similar problems because evga cheaped out and didn't add thermal pads to the vrms from the factory.

    • @Matthewtrains
      @Matthewtrains Před rokem +53

      @@iamdmc there is no need to be rude, this is a learning opportunity for him, even though better research could've of been done.

    • @braydanprice1796
      @braydanprice1796 Před rokem +23

      @@iamdmc Why does it matter to you just click off the video hes trying something new bozo

    • @Matthewtrains
      @Matthewtrains Před rokem +5

      @@MoMo-qw9ro your are absolutely right, a simple google research would show up the board for the GPU he is working on

  • @proesterchen
    @proesterchen Před rokem +1357

    2080 Tis come with only 11 of the 12 memory channels populated from the factory, also, missing phases in the various VRMs is a normal strategy for the OEM to save money while still using the reference board design.

    • @NonLegitNation2
      @NonLegitNation2 Před rokem +59

      thats what I was thinking. Isn't each vram chip usually 1GB, so maybe that was a 11GB model but the board could also be used for a 12GB model and thats why 1 of the vram chips were missing? I also was thinking it came that way from the factory because the board looked way too clean, it didn't look like anyone went at it with flux and a soldering iron or heat gun since usually there would be some flux residue on the card afterwards

    • @brainiac9579
      @brainiac9579 Před rokem +71

      Yep, exactly what I was about to say. That EVGA 2080 ti xc ultra isn't missing any components. Also, one possible reason for the stacked thermal pads would be that the card was on a waterblock, got defective, and the just swapped the stock cooler back on to sell without caring about it being done right.

    • @MrMackievelli
      @MrMackievelli Před rokem +67

      Yeah I'm bothered by him not researching the pcb or breakdowns out there. Love his videos but with today's resources this is something he could have researched on the fly.

    • @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381
      @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381 Před rokem +4

      Yeah, same with some other nVidia top-end GPUs below the Titans, like the GTX 780, same GPU (GK110) but partially deactivated and half of the VRAM, just 3 GB and these are only on the GPU side, the Titan has another 3 GB on the other PCB side; they simply share the reference PCB so the same watercooler fits both cards.
      And also the 980 Ti and Titan X (both GM200 but Titan got 12 instead of 6 gigs VRAM), 1080 Ti and Titan X (Pascal)/Titan Xp (all GP102 but the 1080 Ti got 11 and the titans got 12 gigs).

    • @joeclifford183
      @joeclifford183 Před rokem +8

      Came here to leave the same comment. OEMs frequently make the same base pcb for a range of cards and populate based on the version to save money on the manufacturing and engineering side of things. Other times they over engineer in design and then find they don’t need all the extra phases or memory modules to hit their prospective benchmark. “Missing” components is a common sight.

  • @ShamblerDK
    @ShamblerDK Před rokem +431

    1. Never, ever allow GPUs to boot past BIOS without a cooler mounted.
    2. That 3060 with the green artifacts is usually an indicator that a RAM-chip is either bad or has lost connection with the PCB. You could try a reflow of the RAM chips.

  • @Asyq
    @Asyq Před rokem +1285

    1) Don't ever just install and attempt to run a GPU that you know has an issue or is likely to have one.
    2) Check for shorts on the power input rails aswell as on the voltage rails the card itself creates (5V, 1.8V, PEX, vCore, vMEM, VDDCI (on AMD GPUs), MSVDD (on all GA102 GPUs except for the 3090Ti)). Each power input is it's own 12V rail, so just checking one will not suffice. vCore, vMEM, VDDCI, MSVDD and PEX have rather low resistances, so check them using resistance mode. DO NOT use continuity mode, or you might just lead yourself down the wrong path. (Getting a close to 0 Ohm reading on vCore on newer GPUs is expected since the GPU silicon has a very low internal resistance.)
    3) If you have a short, don't ever just inject voltage, especially if a power input is shorted. First, check if any power can make it's way from that power input directly to the GPU or memory using your multimeter. If there is a direct connection and you just go to inject voltage, you might just be sending whatever voltage you're injecting directly into your GPU or memory, potentially frying them.
    4) If you have a short, inspect the componets that are on that shorted voltage rail closely. Don't waste your time looking at componets that aren't on that rail (they can't cause the short). Look for things such as blown capacitors, mosfets, powerstages or a bubbled-up top PCB layer. Look at the solder on mosfets and powerstages, see if there's some small solder blobs or balls around or if the joints look bad and not properly flowed. Those are indications that something got quite warm.
    If you have a short on PEX, your core is most likely dead. AMD Vega cards a notorious for having defective cores.
    5) If you don't have a short anywhere, run the card. If you have artifacting, it's very likely one or more defective memory banks, mayhaps even across multiple memory channels. For nVIDIA GPUs from Fermi to Turing, use nVIDIA MODS MATS. Run it, and it'll tell you in a plain textfile which memory bank is spitting out errors. You can probably do the same on AMD GPUs and nVIDIA Ampere cards, but I haven't looked into that yet. (As far as I'm aware, the latest version of MODS MATS that is available only supports nVIDIA GPUs from Kepler to Turing). Artifacting can also be caused by the core/memory controller. If the memory controller is dead, you'll likely find discolored underfill around the core. If you see that, the core is dead, or pretty much dead.
    6) If you simply have no display, it's very likely just a missing voltage rail, probably caused by a defective logic gate somewhere on the board and/or physical damage (missing capacitor or resistor, GPUs w/o backplates are obviously quite prone to physical damage, so it might just be worth to take a closer look at the back of the PCB). That said, defective memory can also cause no display. In that instance, do step 5.
    There are many more things that can cause a GPU to fail POST or not to work correctly, but a short, physical damage or a missing voltage rail are the ones that I myself have seen and fixed the most (by far).
    Now, some things in general:
    1) Any and all of the discolored PCB and componentry you saw in this video is not caused by excessive heat or overclocking. That's just silicone oil from the thermal interface materials reflecting the light in a funny way. Solicone oil is not conductive or capacitive. It does not damage your graphics card in any way, shape or form.
    2) I'm not aware of any GPU that doesn't have some empty pads (and, by extension, missing comnponets) by default. So if you see an empty pad, that doesn't mean someone has used a GPU as a donor for parts.
    3) Some GPU models have intentionally missing memory modules to get to the desired VRAM capacity.
    4) Pointing a thermal camera at blank silicon doesn't do you anything since the silicon will reflect some IR that's already in your environment and, by extension, throw off your reading.
    5) Please don't buy dead GPUs off of random people on ebay. It's a bad idea 'cause most of them are way beyond repair. Only buy dead GPUs on ebay if you can get at least a rough idea of what the fault is and, most importantly, if it's not been messed with already.

    • @frankduque8682
      @frankduque8682 Před rokem +58

      Something i'd like to add is that some GPU's perform just fine on benchmarks but fail on actual gamming, I have one here with this problem.

    • @mintynuggets
      @mintynuggets Před rokem +44

      Very meticulous comment, I think he should do a colab with northbridge fix and they can hopefully share some knowledge with each other.

    • @Superzesh101
      @Superzesh101 Před rokem +8

      Graphic cards are so confusing. I'll stick to me ps5 and buy a new one if it dies! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @dirtydan6098
      @dirtydan6098 Před rokem +23

      Who are you the GPU police

    • @MrSolvalou
      @MrSolvalou Před rokem +13

      This -essay- comment is a gold mine, thanks for the tips!

  • @Irongalaxies
    @Irongalaxies Před rokem +618

    That 2080 Ti's board isn't missing parts, that's just cost savings done by the 3rd party board partners. Perfectly normal to be missing the last memory module. Check out some of the tear-downs of that GPU.

    • @dallenzao
      @dallenzao Před rokem +42

      It’s actually supposed to be missing that 1 memory module. It’s an 11GB card, and each of those chips are 1GB chips. There’s 12 open spots but only 11 will be occupied on a 2080 Ti.

    • @sarim5030
      @sarim5030 Před rokem +5

      That's correct, but I think the top left memory chip is broken. Still fixable probably tho

    • @Joe-wk9ow
      @Joe-wk9ow Před rokem +7

      yup some GPU's share the same board as the higher tiers. Like the 2080 ti shares the same board as the RTX Titan.

  • @phyro4143
    @phyro4143 Před rokem +255

    I have been fixing gpus for a living for more than a year. Nothing tells me these cards were unfixable.
    -The 1080 FTW just had a dead filtering capacitor. This model doesn't have fuses but its probably something minor. There are more voltages than 1V8, 5V and 3V3, there's also FBVDD, PEX and NVVDD.
    -The 3060(?) you ran at 140C, if it wasn't toast it probably is since you ran it at 140C...
    -No missing ram chip on the 2080ti. Each chip is 1GB, card is 11GB. Missing chip is because they bin the chips that have defective memory controllers and disable that one to have a better yield.

    • @Jaymiecain1
      @Jaymiecain1 Před rokem +13

      Do you have any advice for someone looking to get into fixing GPUs or electronics in general? How did you learn? Thank you =)

    • @chilly1661
      @chilly1661 Před rokem +5

      @@phyro4143 hi, why do you consider northridgefix a scammer? Just wanted to know.

    • @phyro4143
      @phyro4143 Před rokem +28

      @@chilly1661 Many of his videos he's changing components for the wrong ones (Alpha And Omega DrMOS to NCP DrMOS and vice versa, etc.), making the card, well not work then he cuts the video. I don't know if he's just ignorant or doing this to then buy the "broken" cards from his clients. He also doesn't seem able to diagnose memory issues, bios issues, logic signalling issues. Basically, only thing he seems to reliably be able to fix is a broken fan wire/connector.

    • @dorfschmidt4833
      @dorfschmidt4833 Před rokem +1

      I guess the 3060 had a bad RAM chip.

    • @ariewijaya1679
      @ariewijaya1679 Před rokem +2

      @@phyro4143 yeah the boss fix the easy one. For complex repairs with multiples ic failure leave to the most junior employee 😬

  • @Scitch87
    @Scitch87 Před rokem +483

    6:30 The fans not spinning aren't really an indication. Those newer mid-range to high-end GPUs have what's called a "Zero-Fan mode" wherein the fans will spin when it's first turned on but then go off again until the GPU reaches a certain temperature or is hit with a higher load.
    On a usual startup the fans only spinning at the start is not an issue.

    • @leexy3395
      @leexy3395 Před rokem +19

      Maybe that card has corrupted bios?. Im just guessing honestly

    • @benmasten5924
      @benmasten5924 Před rokem +18

      @@leexy3395 I was thinking that or mining BIOS

    • @razmann4k
      @razmann4k Před rokem +21

      @@benmasten5924 That 1080 has dual bios if I'm not mistaken, and the switch is right next to the 8-pin power adapter. He should've tried swapping bioses

    • @benmasten5924
      @benmasten5924 Před rokem +13

      @@razmann4k for sure. He's learning though.

    • @Joe-wk9ow
      @Joe-wk9ow Před rokem +3

      yup. I think they turn on at 60c if I'm not mistaken.

  • @DjPsYcOtIc
    @DjPsYcOtIc Před rokem +168

    18:49 the missing ram chip is normal, they come like that, even the 1080 Ti's are the same 3rd chip missing. Also to note, when you get no picture and the machine appears to boot, this is an indication that the GPU is fine, but 1 ram chip is needing replacing, there is some software you can get to test your GPU memory and it will tell you witch memory chip needs replacing. Of course this runs in dos from a flash drive etc.
    Also if your system boots but has no screen, try using a 2nd card and it should boot into windows on the 2nd GPU and you can see in device manager that the broken GPU 1 will show up as code 21 error, this means the card is working but the memory on the card, one of them chips has died and will give a page in non page area fault, basically use the NVIDIA software tool and find out what chip it reports dead, swap it out, card fixed.
    Also if you boot using a 2nd GPU and install team viewer or something like that, log me in, etc etc you can shut it down, take out the 2nd GPU and then boot it up with the broken card, then jump on another PC and login remotely and you will get a very small screen but you can navigate around the system and see that in device manager it has error code 21 device cannot start.
    Hope with helps,
    Oh p.s. all the other noted missing parts, are normal, its a re-used board from reference to reference I believe.
    Good luck and thank you for sharing.

    • @mrprongles9510
      @mrprongles9510 Před rokem +5

      All the other missing components are normal as well!

    • @DjPsYcOtIc
      @DjPsYcOtIc Před rokem +4

      @@mrprongles9510 Agreed

  • @error262
    @error262 Před rokem +17

    18:34 that's how that card is made, it's not missing any components. Also by looking at what they did with thermal pads there's no way they could remove components so cleanly.

  • @GeekyGamer167
    @GeekyGamer167 Před rokem +176

    Well it's clear that this is new territory for you, with the comments on the lack of components on the 2080 Ti (which is definitely a normal thing for GPUs as they re-use board designs for a number of different chips), and running a card without a heatsink on it at all. That made me cringe because seeing 130°+ on the package means the junction temp was probably a lot hotter... For testing a GPU's board for temps a good way to get a view is to either rotate the heatsink 90° and mount it that way if possible, or use a CPU cooler to give yourself a visual of the rest of the board while it's powered on. This isn't a good thermal solution for the power management and memory though, so I wouldn't recommend doing any stress tests with this type of setup, but it's good for checking the rest of the board when voltage is applied.
    With most GPUs now, they turn on the fans for a brief moment after boot to give a kind of "sign of life", then turn them off as the board boots up and starts controlling the fan speed based on temperature. At low enough temps, the fans will be off, hence why you see the fans turn on and then shortly back off when turning the pc on.

    • @Joe-wk9ow
      @Joe-wk9ow Před rokem +5

      only do this if you are going to turn it off right away after seeing that it posts. usually 6 seconds then shut off.

  • @Alvin853
    @Alvin853 Před rokem +90

    Couple of tips for people new to GPU repair: before plugging the GPU into a working system, make sure none of the major power rails are shorted, or you might end up with more dead hardware than you started with.
    Also with the GPU prices recently, it's reasonable to assume that any "expensive" card sold for salvage has already been diagnosed and either deemed a no-fix or made worse (some people get desperate and put them in the oven). Get older NVidia cards like 700/900 series to get started, much higher success chances. It's usually harder to find info for AMD cards, so stick with NVidia until you get a general feel what all the parts on the card do.

  • @Thesignalpath
    @Thesignalpath Před rokem +186

    Powering a GPU without a heat sink...

  • @ValexNihilist
    @ValexNihilist Před rokem +7

    It's really cool to see you use your skills to try to repair something you're still new to. Really interesting content. It also helps newbies like me to see how you work through something you're new to.

  • @rambofan1
    @rambofan1 Před rokem +42

    It doesn’t matter what Steve is fixing I’m gonna watch it and it will make my day better.

  • @lagautmd
    @lagautmd Před rokem +5

    What always amazes me about these is learning about the insane number of components besides just the ICs. For these to work properly all these capacitors, resistors, mosfets, etc. must work within tolerances and not fail. Even with a tiny chance of failure per year the probability of a failure somewhere becomes very high. So, the chance of failure for these individual components must be near non-existent. That's amazing manufacturing quality in fundamentally inexpensive components. That means the entire supply chain making these components must be extraordinarily tight on accuracy and lack failure points. It quickly becomes bewildering.

  • @liberalminded1
    @liberalminded1 Před rokem +3

    Love the PC part repair videos. Motherboards, gpus, notebooks... great content.

  • @mpla13373
    @mpla13373 Před rokem +129

    It's normal for graphics cards to get hot in random places especially on memory chips so heatspots don't mean the end of graphics cards. The processor on the 3060 that is discoloured is most likely bad so it is most likely unfixable. Also you should test the 12 volt 5 volt 1.8 vmam vcore for continuenty. If it shorted to ground you can apply voltage and you will see with the thermal cam . If the memory is shorted it's a lost cause. The second doesn't seem too bad but not unfixable since all the voltages are present is most like a 0 ohm resistor. You could have checked with the thermal cam for a heatspot while being connected( if there is no short the thermal cam will show nothing ). In graphics cards While using the thermal cam you should know that the heat is very very minimal you will hardly be able to see it(random spots might get hot but when something is faulty on GPUs the heat is low , unless its the processor.).

    • @dorfschmidt4833
      @dorfschmidt4833 Před rokem +8

      GPU was fine, before he cooked it. Probably an issue with one of these RAM chips.

    • @elonwong
      @elonwong Před rokem

      Current gpu s have really low resistance. Multimeters would identify it as a short by mistake. Just have to check if it’s above 0.7ohms. Entirely possible it’s even lower than that

  • @MMKnight_1
    @MMKnight_1 Před rokem +22

    The "missing" components on the 2080 ti often means that it is using the same pcb as a higher tier of gpus/a better version of that card that needs those extra components.

  • @raydelpino2906
    @raydelpino2906 Před rokem +1

    Hi, Great content. Repairs of Nintendo, Xbox, & PlayStation are interesting but I especially like when you purchase other items for repair like these graphics cards. The video on the Go Pro's was also really interesting.

  • @ciceropizutti4899
    @ciceropizutti4899 Před rokem +11

    It's always wise to test the unknown vga cards for short circuits before installing in the MB (first 3 pci pins and the power conector pins), a shorted vga card can break the MB or psu. Really like your videos! 👍

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    @elrodelectronics Před rokem +2

    I've been working with JLCPCB for a couple years now. They've been an economical way to test my projects. I've made and sold a couple of devices through them. I've only had one issue with them, some of my red PCBs had cosmetic issues. Nothing too serious though. Great service.

  • @ApocDevTeam
    @ApocDevTeam Před rokem +9

    The problem with dead graphics cards is that when there's a catastrophic power failure in one of the components, there's a high chance it will fry a lot of other components in the process (which may not be visually apparant). A lot of times the GPU core and/or memory modules get destroyed as well. They are extremely sensitive to voltage spikes. Even a couple of volts too high can instantly destroy them. There's also a lot of annoying issues that can happen like faulty memory modules which you have to individually test for and then replace the module. In general graphics card repair is a huge pain and only recommended if you really specialize in it and know all the little details of what's happening with each generational architecture / board design. I know a lot of repair shops avoid graphics cards, also because there's so many different models that it's hard to get replacement parts. According to NorthRidgeFix over 50% of graphics cards they work on end up being a "no-fix" either because the problem cannot be found or the GPU core is dead. Big time waste.

  • @ZackMuffinMan
    @ZackMuffinMan Před rokem +16

    Depending the card, the fans won't spin up until needed. Also, I wouldn't run them without at least a fan on them. They heat up quick (within seconds) and can cause permanent damage.

  • @endzima7238
    @endzima7238 Před rokem +1

    been waiting for this video for a long time! im about to watch it. cant wait to see if you fix em!

  • @nullmind
    @nullmind Před rokem +9

    For the 2080 ti this is normal if there are some "missing" parts, if there is no flux around that means it was like that from the factory. Removing the extra thermal pads might just "fix" it.

  • @filigs9008
    @filigs9008 Před rokem

    Hey Steve! Nice vids btw, Ive seen in the recent videos you've been playing with the aound modifier and its cool keep doin it, but an idea for you... In a dramatic scene like in this video show a video of yourself doin a sad face as if it didnt work, but dont say it... Think it would be rly funny!

  • @gbwomble1570
    @gbwomble1570 Před rokem

    Well done good to see you try different things look forward to your next video

  • @Spartan122S
    @Spartan122S Před rokem +35

    You know the Tronicsfix video is gonna be good when he goes out of his comfort zone!

  • @soymartin
    @soymartin Před rokem +2

    Great video as always! GPUs can be very tricky, but it's interesting watching something different. I hope you can sell the parts and get your money back!

  • @mesh5000
    @mesh5000 Před rokem +4

    kudos to tronics for getting out of comfort zone and trying new things

  • @sirrichel9155
    @sirrichel9155 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for keeping things fresh and entertaining.

  • @michoandmacha5085
    @michoandmacha5085 Před rokem

    Just on time , i needed this video ❤️

  • @gyannrodriguez4938
    @gyannrodriguez4938 Před rokem +3

    honestly great to see you working on things other the consoles! super interesting to see all the things and effort you try

  • @jovaraszigmantas
    @jovaraszigmantas Před rokem +3

    When I first used jlcpcb service I got excellent customer service as I forgot to send them all of the nessasry Gerber files. They simply asked politely to double check if I had everything and I of course did not. The keyboard PCB turned out with extreme quality and also good shipping. would buy from them again.

  • @martinhermsen1518
    @martinhermsen1518 Před rokem

    Cool Video, regarding the „diodes“ are these not this expensive aluminium polymere capacitors ?

  • @giovanycatano8611
    @giovanycatano8611 Před rokem

    I love this content Steve, thanks, greetings from Colombia 🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @Igbf
    @Igbf Před rokem +6

    As some comments pointed out, the missing RAM module in RTX 2080Ti is normal, that is the reason why that card has "only" 11GiB VRAM and 352bit memory bus (instead of the 24GiB and 384 bits memory bus of the Titan RTX card which shares the same chip), and also the missing components of the power phases are intended by design to save costs.
    Other thing I think might come in handy: when testing for RAM problems like in the second to last GPU (if i remember right it was a 3060) just use MODS/MATS (a bootable tool for internal testing at nvidia which got leaked about a year ago, beware of scams and viruses tho), that usually identifies the broken chip. The memory chip itself is dirt cheap (5-ish USD, more or less depending on model), and for someone with your skills pretty easy to repair (you will need to preheat the board quite a lot, but apart from that, I was able to perform this repair as a complete novice on a dead GTX770)

  • @MrCrabs101
    @MrCrabs101 Před rokem +3

    I wouldn't trust a card that's only stability test was heaven.

  • @xianhatcher2288
    @xianhatcher2288 Před rokem +10

    While this was disappointing in a specific way, it was really educational and I am sure you saved a lot of people from by lots or used graphic cards like this. Thank you for helping us viewers in this way.

    • @ariewijaya1679
      @ariewijaya1679 Před rokem +1

      At least he is not speaking very fast or with strange accent

  • @OttawaOldFart
    @OttawaOldFart Před rokem

    Dude that logic though at the beginning hehe

  • @unscarred7852
    @unscarred7852 Před rokem +10

    A lot of GPU's Have places for extra memory chips and other parts but they don't use them. They're only used on higher end models like going from a 3070 to a 3080. This is due to the PCB being the same for each model.

  • @lets-learn-tech
    @lets-learn-tech Před rokem +1

    Great videos, try toggle GPU bios switch , use onboard GPU and check device manager

  • @TroySkirchak
    @TroySkirchak Před rokem +1

    Please make more videos about GPUs. I learned a lot.

  • @kaygerry
    @kaygerry Před rokem +2

    My soul died when you ran it under load without any heatsink 😮 Melty in seconds.

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse Před rokem +2

    I've used JLPCB for years and I won't change as the service is great and the product stunning !...cheers.

  • @JoseRobertoS93
    @JoseRobertoS93 Před rokem

    If the GPU still does not display and it's kinda check in the hardware chips, it's a good idea to check it on windows using a working station, a working gpu if required and the issue gpu on a second slot, the driver manager and CPU-Z might help you to check more information. If it's shows up, maybe will require a bios flash or other level of troubleshooting. Most of my recommendations I took it from JayzTwoCents videos, he has some troubleshoot on this topic but not so much in hardware troubleshoot, but if isn't hardware, might have a chance with this. Good luck and thanks for the videos

  • @r3n846
    @r3n846 Před rokem +4

    I think the issue with the 3060 might be memory, try using MSI Afterburner to downclock the memory, and try running the benchmark again.
    For the 2080ti, I think those components are meant to be missing, as there is a more powerful card, the Titan RTX, which would use that extra VRAM chip and likely needs a bit more power from those components that are missing.

  • @Dandan-tg6tj
    @Dandan-tg6tj Před rokem +2

    I can watch now and see the mistakes and misconceptions. I was doing worse than that but in time I was learning even from this kind of terrifying videos. We can learn from everything if we want to learn, especially from mistakes and sometimes we can learn from someone else's mistakes.
    This video is funny for professionals but for beginners is just right.
    A beginner should always buy the cheapest of things to practice on because a beginner will almost always ruin them all.
    No beginner should spend thousands of dollars in hope it will magically repair the things. It doesn't work like this.
    It's learning first and a bit of luck, a trained eye and more or less steady hands but knowing what you're doing is a must.
    We all were here. We all thought that are missing parts on these boards even if they actually weren't, let's be honest about that.

  • @kevinmagsy0312
    @kevinmagsy0312 Před rokem +2

    Common issue on the gpu ,on of them are vrms mosfets, vrm controller like 5v 3.3v 1.2-1.3v and 900mili volts to 1 volt, and the most common video ram colder joints and failure u have to replace it with the donor board

  • @mareck6946
    @mareck6946 Před rokem +5

    the trtx 3060 prolyl is fixable. that series suffered from overheating memory. which also looks possible due to teh artifacts and errors your getting - prolly one of the first or second row of mem ICs has a fault ( could also be just popped solder balls due to thermal stress ). id recommend do a memtest on it and either reball the memory ic /s or get a replacement ( their about 7 bucks rightnow )

    • @mndx89
      @mndx89 Před rokem +1

      Finally someone who knows what is saying...artifacts comes definitely from a bad memory chip, also the discoloration around GPU is probably caused by the neighbor chips gone really hot

  • @MrGtagangster
    @MrGtagangster Před rokem

    What I'm thinking is the following, if your cpu has an igpu, try to get into the bios.
    Also, some gpus could have a 2nd bios/non Oc bios.

  • @jmk7423
    @jmk7423 Před rokem +48

    With the 3060 perhaps consider reducing the Memory clocks with MSI afterburner. On the 2080ti with "missing parts"- they're probably not missing, the board design is probably just reused between different models. You could try a heat gun on the non working cards, but GPU's are difficult to fix even for people who know what they're doing.

    • @ksevio
      @ksevio Před rokem

      Considering it has a space for a memory chip and it had a memory error, I'd suspect it should have been there

    • @jmk7423
      @jmk7423 Před rokem +4

      @@ksevio They have standard board designs- he didn't test the 2080ti at all just presumed that it wouldn't work. The 3060 probably had dead gddr6 chips as some of the early RTX cards

    • @Joe-wk9ow
      @Joe-wk9ow Před rokem +1

      The board is used with the RTX Titan and the 2080ti. Like how the 3080 ti is still the same chip as the 3090.

    • @dyyylllaannn
      @dyyylllaannn Před rokem +3

      Considering that mans tried to run Heaven bench with no heatsink installed the thing is fried lmao

    • @juancampuzano4841
      @juancampuzano4841 Před rokem +1

      @@ksevio 2080ti has 11gb of vram and all the boards have one empty space(2080ti’s).

  • @MrGtagangster
    @MrGtagangster Před rokem +2

    Another thing I didn't see you do or mention, wiping the drivers. Having multiple gpus and multiple drivers can be conflicting. I would try some gpus again and DDU the drivers.

  • @AleksanderFimreite
    @AleksanderFimreite Před rokem +1

    Suggestion for 9:10:
    I have had a bunch of fully working gpus which I had trouble showing any signal on multiple monitors and cables and computer systems.
    An indication of a good card is if you see the fan start up AT ALL and the motherboard does not flash a red LED near the gpu.
    (Not nessesarily certain all motherboards will have these leds, but they generally all have some way of telling you if there is an error with the hardware)
    Its common for fans to spin for a brief moment while starting the card, then turned off again once the data from the temperature sensor is available.
    If we assume you have the same issue, what I have found which might help is the following.
    1. Connect the cable to the monitor and choose the corresponding source.
    2. Power on the computer normally.
    3. Then press a reset button, not power on/off.
    You have the primary reset button (connected to the switch on the tower) and some motherboards even have a secondary one directly on the motherboard.
    Either of those should do the trick if we had the same problem. Though I really don't understand why I have been experiencing this.

  • @Voidoizhere
    @Voidoizhere Před rokem

    Hi finally a new vid keep up the great content ❤❤❤❤

  • @bogdanvulic1124
    @bogdanvulic1124 Před rokem

    Nice video 🙂. It would be cool to see u fixing some broken iPhone too 😀

  • @glbernini0
    @glbernini0 Před rokem +1

    Got to remember test before re-assembly! For all the other DIYers

  • @devnol
    @devnol Před rokem

    Hey Steve, where do you get the values for the components from?

  • @rix_s4112
    @rix_s4112 Před rokem +1

    try to flash the bios on the card at 9:00. might have been used for mining or something and may have a no display bios

  • @valeio12
    @valeio12 Před rokem

    Hello Steve, I have a little issue with my 3080 G1 from Gigabyte... I ripped off accidentally the RGB cable to change the ridiculous thermal pad that the GPU came with, the connector is stuck inside the female one... There is any way to recognize the right RGB order in case I would like to change the connectors? Thanks a lot!

  • @GamerErman2001
    @GamerErman2001 Před rokem +1

    18:55 Look up what the PCB is supposed to look like before you assume someone took parts off. It has 11 memory chips for 11 gigabytes of memory. Also EVGA has several versions of most cards and I don't know if some have more diodes. I think the problem with this card may have just been someone putting so many thermal pads on it that the heatsink didn't touch the chip or paste.

  • @rosariocarnelli
    @rosariocarnelli Před rokem +1

    For evga graphic cards there's a test you can run on them built by the evga team I used it to test one of my old cards and it will tell you if one of the vrams is not working as it should.

  • @techgirl517
    @techgirl517 Před rokem +3

    the EVGA RTX 2080 Ti looks perfectly fine on the PCB, no missing parts, only the amount of thermalpads is the issue here, they are too thick and no cooler contact on the gpu chip. Try to apply normal thermal pads (Thermalgrizzly are the best) and the perfect amount of thermal paste, i bet they work.

  • @SG-dn6yo
    @SG-dn6yo Před rokem

    My PS5 Disk Version thinks the power button is constantly pressed. I've wanted to ask if you know which capacitors on the motherboard might be short causing this problem, I should be able to replace it/them and maybe fix the problem. Thanks in advance!

  • @srijandas73
    @srijandas73 Před rokem

    Try to see if you can get a display output from the motherboard.....and if you do then if the gpu is doing something or not in a test

  • @osbberjen
    @osbberjen Před rokem +24

    when testing gpus you can insert 2 gpus in the pc. one you want to test and one you know work. when the display is connected to the known working gpu you ca go to device manager and see if the one you want to test
    shows up. also never stress test agpu without cooler installed, even booting it without is a risk. install the driver for eatch gpu. use ddu to delete the drivers from previous gpus.

    • @Joe-wk9ow
      @Joe-wk9ow Před rokem +2

      that is if he has a motherboard with 2 PCI-E slots.

    • @H3LLGHA5T
      @H3LLGHA5T Před rokem +5

      Or just use a processor with an iGPU

    • @osbberjen
      @osbberjen Před rokem

      @@H3LLGHA5T yes, that too :)

  • @bornagain2641
    @bornagain2641 Před rokem +1

    I not sure if it's important. The drivers can be wrong.
    When you go to change a graphics card you suppose to with old card in then go into program and features and delete the driver. Then u install new driver.

  • @H3LLGHA5T
    @H3LLGHA5T Před rokem +4

    You should watch Tech Cemetery on GPU repairs, with your testing every GPU in this video is still potentially fixable. Well you may have killed the 3060 running it at 140° C, never run a GPU without cooler, put a CPU cooler on it for testing but don't stress without cooling VRMs and memory. Also GPUs often turn off fans after initially powering on since the VBios takes control of cooling then, most GPUs have a silent fan curve where the fans only kick in when a certain temperature is exceeded (mostly around 50° C)

  • @Zebra_Paw
    @Zebra_Paw Před rokem +7

    I'd not apply thermal paste before ensuring that it at least boots properly with no artifacts!
    Also having an iGPU in your processor or just a second graphics card would be nice when there's no signal out to see if the card is detected.
    A frequent failure is no VRAM detected, so GPU Z can tell you about this. I think that's what happened to the RTX 3060
    Every missing component in the 2080 Ti looks factory, so why don't you test the card?
    a GPU failure happens but it's rare!

  • @PuffyRule
    @PuffyRule Před rokem +2

    i hope you don`t run from integrated video card on the first gpu!!! u need to install and reinstall all drivers!! will be funny if u did all test thinking is the GPU`s and to find out is the integrated video card :))))

  • @juhopeltonen1531
    @juhopeltonen1531 Před rokem +2

    1 thing to point ☝️ is you should check the pcie version in bios and match that for your gpu! I know it won't always cause no signal but it might just do that some times

  • @Teles_of_Africa
    @Teles_of_Africa Před rokem

    Tropicsfix, I have a question and I pray you answer it, I have got a ps4 for that your you put it on for the first time the blue light blinks and when you turn it off and on again it boots on the screen and everything works (i mean it goes to the dash bord), also when I try assessing the safe mode, I get a white light but no display on the screen. What could possibly be causing that?

  • @ebarnabas6444
    @ebarnabas6444 Před rokem +4

    RTX 2080 Ti not missing parts, if you check out a board view it's normal, you can see this kind of thing with other GPU-s or with low end laptop boards where the whole GPU is missing

  • @XeloX
    @XeloX Před rokem +5

    the 3060 it looked like you just hadn't installed the driver, hence the low resolution on the TV and big icons etc

  • @EliteTruckRepairs
    @EliteTruckRepairs Před rokem

    To properly test the output of your nvidia cards you may need to un-intsall and re-install drivers with the DVA plug on the motherboard to get them to work.

  • @emmabentley7945
    @emmabentley7945 Před rokem +2

    Small tip, with gpus you need to cover the entire Die with thermal paste :) also the EVGA 1080s a lot of then had fail issues. I love your videos. Such a fascinating watch every time ❤️❤️

    • @Arcona
      @Arcona Před rokem

      You just need to put enough on the die that it will spread across the whole thing when pressed against the heatsink. Same with any chip without an IHS over the die, like the consoles he often fixes, or most laptops.

    • @mar10kuup
      @mar10kuup Před rokem

      The EVGA 1080 FTW he showed had a flaw that the V-RAM could get to hot. EVGA had a fix by useing a set of thermal pads, which you could get from them. Till today my EVGA 1080 FTW is still working 😁 and i was lucky enough to read about the flaw, otherwise it was also RIP

  • @silgrimmarak8699
    @silgrimmarak8699 Před rokem

    You can buy hdmi to vga or display port or hdmi converter with usb power for no signal display issue... it might help, im using my no signal black screen gpu with usb powered hdmi converter, with usb powered plugged in, the display come out.

  • @jokeletsplay
    @jokeletsplay Před rokem +1

    check that evga 3060 again, but with the correct drivers. it seemed like the screen resolution wasnt yor tvs native res, that could be caused by wrong or missing drivers, it could also explain the errors you got.

  • @wtfman81
    @wtfman81 Před rokem

    on those 2 1080s noticed there is a bios switch, toggle the switch and see if the gpu runs afterwards. cause it could just be a corrupted bios. you might be able to flash the corrupted bios and have it work again.

  • @EMGGShadow1
    @EMGGShadow1 Před rokem

    If I am right which I believe I am the 1080 has zero rpm fans meaning they want spin until they are under heavy load.

  • @christophervanzetta
    @christophervanzetta Před rokem +5

    That 3060 is still covered under EVGA’s 3 year warranty. Not sure why the previous owner didn’t Get it repaired/replaced under warranty

  • @coolbigandy
    @coolbigandy Před rokem +2

    you could check the serialnumbers on the EVGA Cards if theyre still under warranty. The 3060 could be, open an RMA and send it in and get a new one.
    You also could check to try to reflash the VGA Bios on the cards, since they could got corrupted and flashing could fix it

    • @AnotherDud3
      @AnotherDud3 Před rokem

      Evga won't touch this now, warranty stickers are voided

    • @coolbigandy
      @coolbigandy Před rokem +5

      @@AnotherDud3 wrong as long the card is not physically damaged. It’s still under warranty. Cards are still under warranty if you change the thermal paste or the cooler.

  • @TexasKing100
    @TexasKing100 Před rokem

    Hey Tonics, just wonderin if you know of a good way to find a local repair shop that isnt going to ruin your computer

  • @borisgospodinov5780
    @borisgospodinov5780 Před rokem +13

    2080Ti is not missing a chip. That's how high-end GPUs SOC is configured to work/use the amount of VRAM with the bus. Make a research first. Same with the missing VRM parts.
    Same apply for 1080 Ti and 3080++

  • @ErcleeIsBoss
    @ErcleeIsBoss Před rokem

    4:30, how did you know what value capacitor to install?

  • @twitchbully5652
    @twitchbully5652 Před rokem

    Why don't u do a heat gun treatment on no 2, 5 and 7th one. Like heating the gpu and a little bit around it those tend to fix this kind of issue that don't post signal but have all the right volts. Check out some video about it and try it.

  • @akariz1343
    @akariz1343 Před rokem +1

    9:23 u need to unnistall old GPU drivers & reinstall correct one for the GPU u testing.
    U can use DDU is to do it.⚠️

  • @JuicyJakeRepairs
    @JuicyJakeRepairs Před rokem

    what do you do with the broken ones?
    Also that cap really blew haha

  • @gugudias19
    @gugudias19 Před rokem

    I like all of videos, even when you do not manage to fix the boards.

  • @awilliams1701
    @awilliams1701 Před rokem +1

    I was hoping you'd get one of the ones that died because some amazon MMO game killed it. The issue with those seems to be a poor factory solder joint on a couple caps. Probably not hard to fix. It's odd that one specific game found the problem. lol

  • @jamesfreeman9049
    @jamesfreeman9049 Před rokem +3

    that one that wasnt putting out a display might have a mining bios on it if the card is being detected but not displaying anything. edit: if you have an integrated graphics on your cpu or have a cheap graphics card and plug them both in, if you plug in the one that works and go to hardware information it should tell you if the one thats not displaying is plugged in or not.

  • @M.W.Zastrow
    @M.W.Zastrow Před rokem +1

    The overclock would not do that only if you shunt mod it and then maybe.
    And no heatsink on is not how you do it...

  • @marcusateg7601
    @marcusateg7601 Před rokem

    You could try flashing the original bios to the graphics card (the second card you tried).

  • @techfluidity7881
    @techfluidity7881 Před rokem +3

    You'd be surprised how many dead GPUs I've come across that overheated from misuse (folks leaving their PC case open and not cleaning it regularly/using a case that lacks proper ventilation).

    • @RustyRations
      @RustyRations Před rokem

      There's also the GPU software that has the fans set to Auto , and in my opinion doesn't keep the card cool enough .
      I always set my fan speeds before gaming. The extra fan noise is worth it.

  • @ConnorMayor
    @ConnorMayor Před rokem +1

    On that rx 6800xt you should check for a switch near the top of the card someone might have tried to flash the vbios if it's a dual bios card you can flip the switch if it works then it's a bad flash on the one bios

  • @JTPerp
    @JTPerp Před rokem +2

    I wonder if the card with oil on it was highly overclocked and submerged in some type of mineral oil build.

  • @3DJLab
    @3DJLab Před rokem

    GTX 1080 FTW, try reflashing BIOS, would cause no image if corrupted bios image on the bios chip. You need hw flash tool to reflash it. Same thing on the Radeon if the GPU chip heats up.

  • @kirek5822
    @kirek5822 Před rokem

    Try "the baking in the oven" metod 😂😂

  • @thomasboyer8195
    @thomasboyer8195 Před rokem

    Do you know if these have mining bios on them? They most likely won't display anything if so but might show up in windows still.

  • @CloudJack
    @CloudJack Před rokem

    Going into gpu repair without any experience is like going into a sand trap with no one to pull you out. The people who make these things make them so finicky and most need a decent motherboard plus software to remove old gpu software before installing new ones etc. nvm the dozens of other things to think about. Basically if you do one of these videos again stick to trying to repair maybe just one or two decent cards like a 2080ti or 1080 and focus on just those. Sorry that someone convinced you to waste your money on all those. Assuming u already knew all of that well, there’s not much you can do if someone harvested pieces of the circuit board, yikes. Hope one day you have a way to get those pieces and possibly repair a board that was scrapped if that’s even possible. Would be interesting to see. Thx for the upload and GL!