What REALLY Happened When Bruce Lee FOUGHT Joe Lewis
Vložit
- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
- Uncover the truth about the legendary fight between Bruce Lee and Joe Lewis in this eye-opening video! Join Prince at Goldenbell Training as he separates fact from fiction and takes a deep dive into the real events that transpired between two of the greatest martial arts icons of all time. Discover what really happened in their secretive encounter, debunking myths and misinformation spread across the internet.
Bruce Lee, known as the King of Kung Fu and an influencer of modern fighting games, crossed paths with Joe Lewis, the father of American Kickboxing and a karate legend. But beyond their achievements lies a story shrouded in mystery. Did they really clash in a fight witnessed by only a few? Was their relationship as tumultuous as rumored? This video explores their training sessions, their influence on each other, and the real reasons behind their fallout.
We'll also correct false narratives about their interactions, providing you with a clear picture backed by facts and firsthand accounts. Was Bruce Lee really just a myth, or was his martial prowess as formidable as legends suggest? Find out in this revealing video that promises to enlighten even the most knowledgeable Bruce Lee fans.
Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon to stay updated with more intriguing stories and factual revelations in the world of martial arts!
#brucelee #martialarts #goldenbelltraining
_________________________
Check out These Related Videos »»»
What REALLY Happened When Bruce Lee Fought a Goju Ryu Karate Master → • What REALLY Happened W...
What REALLY Happened When a Boxer Sparred With Bruce Lee → • What REALLY Happened W...
_________________________
*Check Out These Related Videos For More Bruce Lee Fight Stories »»»*
What REALLY Happened When Bruce Lee Fought a Goju Ryu Karate Master → czcams.com/video/hDoetHcEbLk/video.html
What REALLY Happened When a Boxer Sparred With Bruce Lee → czcams.com/video/xQTrW1Df2qE/video.html
Pojnt;
Un-subscribed from the other 2, even if they were somewhat entertaining, and subscribed to your channel. Being entertaining is one thing, but lying outright, will never sit well with me. So I thank you kindly for taking the time to wright this ship.... sincerely,, j.j.
I did check it out and I am really impressed with all your historical narratives of Bruce Lee they are nothing but the truth. Please keep it up.
a karate master. who did he beat?
just a teacher at a school. doesn't make him a very good fighter.
a boxer? who did he beat?
means nothing.
What was your rate?
Haters will hate, but I’d rather believe the people who were ACTUALLY there 🤷♂️🙂
So you believe Lewis when he said "Bruce was not a fighter, he was a teacher. You believe Norris when he said, "I was a professional fighter, Bruce wasn't. you believe Gene Le Bell when hw said he would bet his house on Chuck beating Bruce. you believe Dan Inosanto when he said he thought Benny the jet could have beaten Bruce ??
Glad to hear that you believe the people that were there
@@stevo62ful Woah…. Take it easy 🙂 Let’s have a conversation instead of a match. Cool? First off; we can believe in whatever we want because it never happened. These are all speculations. On paper and in real life is never the same. I believe Bruce to be a good fighter, but what’s More important is that he was a Great Teacher.
Agreed
Bruce Lee all the way
Chuck was simply a dudd. A guy headed for the TV screen like Bruce only the world was scared to death of Bruce not Chuck or Don or any of the rest of these clowns
Awesome Video! I did my research and you are correct about this. I do want to add that John Little mention that Bob Wall said that after Joe Lewis accused Bruce Lee about his wife, Bruce Lee came out of his house and told Joe Lewis let's go MF. Joe Lewis had a chance to fight him but he didn't. Louie Delgado sparred with Bruce Lee and he said he could not do anything with him he was baffled. It amazes me that people think Bruce Lee couldn't fight. It is Ridiculous, he was way ahead of his time. Thanks for posting this and thanks for telling facts and not fiction like Beerdy does.
I really don't think Bruce Lee going to come out say ok MF lol very far-fetched
@@user-eo8qu4pl5f well a friend of mine spoke to Joe Lewis and he told him that Bruce Lee called him a Punk. Bruce Lee had a quick temper and was not afraid of nobody. But it was Joe Lewis that accused him of getting fresh with his wife. He realized that he was wrong and that was the end of their relationship.
@@user-eo8qu4pl5f Bob Wall said that, However my friend who is a Sifu in Wing Chun met Joe Lewis in a convention and he said he asked Joe Lewis about it and he told him the last time he saw Bruce Lee, Bruce called him a Punk.
I read they had this conversion on a phone call, Bob Wall wasn't there, so he wouldn't know what happened between Joe and Bruce, so whatever truly happened is only known to Joe and Bruce and Joe's wife cause she was apparently listening to the conversation
@@guts7958 bob Wall said Joe Lewis told him what happened. They were business partners.
Lol, its funny how other fighters talked a whole lot of crap AFTER Bruce died
That's funny, I was thinking the same exact thing. Nor only that, why didn't they ever challenge Bruce to a match? Not only could they have made boat loads of money for a match like that but think about where their careers would have went if they beat him.
@@RDCZcams54 Bruce didn't put himself forward to be challenged. He made movies, he didn't fight.
@@stevo62ful That does not mean he COULDN'T fight. Of course he made movies. Why would he not? He was a child actor. Movies and tv paid. Point karate? Not so much. Not back then and there was no UFC . Why do you think Chuck Norris jumped at the chance to be an actor?
@@tahseti1113 I didn't say he couldn't fight, I said he didn't fight, Why would actual fighters challenge a non fighter ?
@@stevo62ful Why would actual fighters train and spar with him? Mike Stone, Chuck Norris anad Joe Lewis did. Were they not actual fighters?
Even another podcast a Bruce Lee biographer he mentioned Bruce fought Joe Lewis after Joe hurt one of his students and Bruce went full speed and dismantled Joe and Joe couldn't even touch Bruce. After that they stayed friends and Joe Lewis realized Bruce was on another level.
That's not what Joe said. Until it's confirmed by unbiased witnesses (I.E. not Bruce's students or buddies), it's unproven.
That’s never happened. Joe Lewis was a top kick boxing champion. People loved to BS
@waynecolburn8849 It actually happened, the reason no one else challenged Bruce Lee. Joe said it so and became one of his friends.
@@namelessonewanderland3428 Joe never said any such thing. Only in the minds of you fanboys.
Probably the best channel on CZcams about Bruce Lee... Keep up the great work! (short bow)
I'm sure Joe Lewis sparred with Bruce before training with him, because as you said, Joe knew he was good and was already a tournament champion. He was not going to train with someone who had not proven himself to Joe. My first Kenpo teacher played with Lewis in the tournament days and got cracked ribs. He said Lewis only had one speed, full. His top black belt later (1990's) had Lewis in for seminars a few times. When they played he said Lewis was using some kind of rhythm that was hard to deal with, and he thinks he learned it from Bruce. He said his way of sparring was completely different from the early tournament days (backfist, side kick). Lewis, Norris, Bob Wall, all these guys were black belts with egos; it is natural they would not like admitting Bruce beat them in sparring, but why else would they have trained with him.
And why would wealthy people in Hollywood pay Bruce for lessons?
That's not the reason at all.
A small fighter that you'll easily beat can still be more technical than you.
Lots of people who beat their masters still took lessons from them.
Speed is not the only thing that matters.
@@Leve_Palestina_ Yes, power is also important, and Bruce Lee had plenty of that too. He hit as hard as a heavyweight boxer from that era.
@@endwigast5212 No, he doesn't, not even close:)
Do you fanboys even think before writing?
You really think Bruce Lee hits as hard as Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazer and George Foreman?
@@endwigast5212 130 lb man hitting as hard as George Foreman:)
They should bring back mental institutions:)
Thank you for your information about the real stories about Bruce Lee smile 😁
Appreciate the shout out.
Bruce never bragged about anything because he knew his skill set, and these guys trained with him hoping their skill set would improve.
Btw, I noticed people who dislike Lee, and fabricate nonsense… that’s fine
Just state you don’t like him.
There are people who don’t like the pope, and would want to harm him.
The point I’m making is that people are different.
Some positive, others are negative.
by many accounts he was a great teacher.
@@cuzz63 "I know who Bruce Lee sparred with, they won't tell you, but i know who he sparred with & Bruce Lee was untouchable". Jim Kelly.
"It's disconcerting when you spar with someone who has never fought professionally & find yourself being shut down with a matter of seconds, unable to land a single punch". Bob Wall on sparring Bruce Lee.
"I considered him by far the greatest & for those who don't consider him the greatest at least he would be the top candidate for being he who would actually be the greatest". Joe Lewis on Bruce Lee.
@@peterhaye8537 exactly...Jim Kelly makes a vagu statement with nothing to support it and cant name anyone or give any details. "trust me " is for rubes.
Joe Lewis "Bruce was not a fighter".
He did nothing but brag. What he didn't do, was fight.
@@siddified Bruce Lee has been dead for over 50 years & people still talk incessantly about him regardless of context & yet, he is still viewed as the icon & the king of kung-fu.
When Jim Kelly said Bruce was the best he ever saw by far I knew he had to be good.
In a sanctioned tournament, Lewis would stand a much better chance, but in an actual fight on the street, Lee was unstoppable with that quickness.
Wonder what MJW thinks about this 🤔 Bruce was the real deal
Bob Wall Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis was Bruce Lees students and that's a fact
Wrong
@@siddified No, you are wrong, Mike Stone, Chuck Norris & Joe Lewis were all students of Bruce Lee, in fact Joe Lewis was very open about being his student.
Those guys were already established world champions when they began training with Bruce Lee, do you think they would have wasted their time with Lee had he been a mere finger painter & spouting philosophy? Think about it....
Chuck Norris has always made very clear that he was not a student of Lee. Joe Lewis was just riding his coat tails looking for a movie career. Mike Stone was also not a student of Lee, he had his own martial arts career.
Lee at that time was a big name in the movie industry and martial arts fighters, not getting any payment in those days, liked to network with Ilo for opportunities. Lee did not have any deep knowledge of martial arts nor any high level in anything. You mistake open mindedness and casually exchanging some ideas about martial arts between afficinados for adoration and apprenticeship.
It was his position and popularity they were interested in. This still happens today. Many champion fighters have the ambition for a movie career. Mike Tyson, GSP, Connor McGregor, etc etc. They need the right networks for that and piggyback on the influence of established movie makers.
@@siddifiedHe taught all of them, obviously
@@siddified If you see Lee's diaries you will see multiple entries and their names and times with things they are going to work on. At this time Lee was a teacher. Why would he have given so many free lessons? Why would these big time champions visit this little Chinese guys house over long periods of time if there was nothing to learn?
Your vids just wouldn't be authentic without the beerdy bashing. Don't ever stop!
Brucesploitation was a great word. Big smile when he said it.
If you look at the name on the back of Joe's gi, it clearly says "Tracy's". I was an instructor with Tracy's Karate during that period when Joe worked for them and represented them in tournaments. He also gave seminars for instructors. In those he taught techniques that he learned from Lee. That's the truth.
Another absolute belter of a video, man! Wow! Everyone should watch this! Keep up the great work!
Thank you brother for putting out the truth about Bruce lee 🙏 I got so sick and tired of these fools saying Bruce lee was not a real fighter I knew he was but you got the proof on video. Thank you. Bruce didn't believe in point fighting that's not real. And like Jim kelly said Bruce Lee was untouchable. Chuck Norris wasn't beating Bruce. And damn sure Bob Wall wasn't. Thanks for sharing this video. Peace and love.
As usual Prince, you bring the truth and they can't handle it just like Chuck Norris and the late Joe Lewis. Bruce was a little Chinese guy who couldn't get movie and TV roles because of discrimination. Kareem said he and Bruce talked about the racism they faced. Even after all these years, Chuck can't tell the truth about Bruce Lee. How he boasted about being a champion and Bruce was an actor. If Bruce was alive he would not have stuck his chest out as he did. According to Cheung the Wing Chung master Bruce did send him a letter stating that he sparred with and beat Chuck. These guys couldn't take the facts. Now Michael Jai White, don't get me started on how he says because of size he would kill Bruce. You're supposed to be a martial artist man, size doesn't matter. That's the reason Bruce had students of all sizes because that's real. I trained with Larry Hartsell who told me great things about Bruce including the chopstick and rice thing. Keep it up, Prince!
I called out Beerdy on that one inch punch demonstration. I told him that was not Joe Lewis, he is 6feet tall that guy looked the same size as Bruce Lee
lots of people did...he doesnt care/
Do you want to hear a joke?
Beerdy.
I don't even bother watching him. When you have a channel like Goldenbell Training, you don't have to watch a channel like Beerdy. I want it real AF.
These type channels won't care Bruce lee there jesus can't say any different lol
He blocked me, cause I said he was dumb thinking a boxing match between Bruce and Mike would end in decision 🤔
Great episode Bro!! I've read those stories in Wrath of the Dragon and keep debunking the bs stories!! Bruce Lee was who we thought he was, fr, fr!!
Thanks for digging deep into this...Great video!
I keep forgetting that Stephen Crowder is not a reliable source.
Not on Bruce Lee! That’s for damn sure.
Good episode. Thanks Prince!
Very good information really enjoyed this episode.... hope to catch your new episode on Vic Moore
It's hard not to believe there was some sort of superior skill level, especially when top-tier fighters confirm the skill level of Bruce Lee.
Whats hard to believe is people still think Bruce was a fighter.
@@cuzz63 Joe Lewis regarded Bruce Lee as the greatest martial artist that ever lived & was the fastest man to have stood in front of him, he described Lee as incredibly powerful, hitting as hard as a heavyweight & had an inner conviction.
Lewis would often joke with his students saying he knew what real Jeet Kune Do was & how hard Bruce Lee hit as Lee nailed him, incidentally Joe Lewis was the only world champion who would refer to himself as a student of Bruce Lee.
@@cuzz63what’s hard to believe is people still think he wasn’t
Need some peanut butter for your jelly small king? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@peterhaye8537and later he said that was all bs.
I saw Joey Orbillo tell that story about Bruce at least three times at the Bruce Lee foundation seminars. Cool story.
Bruce was open to all worthwhile fighting systems
Nobody knows what happened about the real fight between Bruce and Joe. Joe isn't here to establish his side.
We know what happened, there is a reason why Joe refers to Bruce Lee as the greatest.
Check out Lewis' interviews, they are not just hearsay, he openly refers to Lee as the greatest & admits to being his student.
So true
@@user-ww2yb2xo3k you weren't there so you wouldn't know what happened
Joe Lewis said Bruce hit like a heavy wieght..Becuse he clocked me a few times..Lewis own words..:)
going by the footage in the video Joe Lewis contradicted himself. First he said he didnt spar with Bruce Lee then he said he did when he mentioned Bruce hitting him. The interviews others have given about Bruce not being a real fighter make no sense either
Lewis openly referred to Bruce Lee as the greatest, describing him as the fastest man to have stood in front of him, saying he was a very powerful & gifted martial artist.
He talks about doing drills with Bruce and that's when he got hit. Drills are not the same as sparring.
Great video man!! You the best Bruce Lee CZcams channel and your legit. You tell the truth, you don't make up stuff like a lot of the other so called CZcams channels. Thanks for sharing man.
Thanks for the amazing video ❤
Good stuff. Also, Jim Kelly spoke of how Bruce Lee was next level.
thanks for the amazing video brother
I wholeheartedly believe Jim Kelly when he said he knew the karatekas Bruce fought and Jim had the integrity of a real master and refused to mention any names, even though he was possibly already sick at the time and knowing he would probably die he still refused to mention names lest these famous karatekas felt ashamed or inconvenienced. Now that is integrity.
I don't doubt Jim Kelly either. I also don't doubt that Lee ever fought or sparred with high level boxers or Muay Thai fighters.
More like mutay guys knew better to challenge lee😊
@shel0016 Please. There were numerous Japanese and Chinese teams that went to Thailand in the 60s and early 70s to compete against Muay Thai. Muay Thai is a brutal sport and the training equally brutal. Please advise when Lee ever encountered the kind of contact and ferocity demonstrated in any of main Bangkok stadiums.
I respect and acknowledge Bruce Lee but 1960s sport karate fighters are not the same as professional Muay Thai fighters.
@@elindioedwards7041 agreed, no, Thai fighter would be afraid of Bruce, iv seen video old and new, and they're not afraid to fight anyone, let alone Bruce, no offense to him
@guts7958 I'm amazed that anyone living today is not aware of Muay Thai and the difference between it and 1960s sport karate. They are simply different animals.
IMO, the martial artist that people should be looking at from the 60s and 70s is Benny Urquidez. Urquidez certainly could have and did fight stadium caliber fighters. In addition, I think he could have probably transitioned over to MMA if he had been 10 years younger.
Thank you brother for setting the record straight.
The best is back in his space. a man that I respect because he does the research and thoroughly. Proof? I'm a fan of Street Fighter and even I didn't know Joe Lewis was the inspiration for Ken Masters. That's impressive. I know of Joe Lewis because of my late big brother. He talked about him and said he was really damn good
Cool to read someone mentioned the Street Fighter franchise. I am a huge fan of it since 1992, playing SF 2 on Amiga 500 was so funny :). I found out this Lewis-Masters thing on Ken's wiki page 2-3 years ago, never knew it before. But of course wiki wasnt around in the 90s, no smartphones, no internet, nothing.
But there is something about Ken which was also new to me and not many people know it. Yes Lewis was the inspiration for him, but still Ken is only 1/4 american, he is 3/4 japanese. And he isnt a caucasian/white guy like Lewis, he looks more asian. He only dyed his hair blond since his youth as his parents wanted to divorce, he wanted them to stay together and became a rebel, dying the black hair blond was a way.
And Ryu is based on Masutasu "Mas" Oyama.
But yeah, Street Fighter is one of the best franchises ever. This game was the real start for 1-1 duel fighting games.
@@chrisbach1533 interesting. I knew Ryu was based on Oyama. Yeah, that mention of Ken was left field but great info. I look at the character completely different. And it does make sense what you said about Ken because when you look at him, he always has black eyebrows. For someone that is a blonde, you aren't going to have anything outside of that color and the brows always match the hair color. Makes me want to go play some Street Fighter 6 later 😂
@@TheDumontShow Sure :). I didnt know most of this too. In the 2000s and 2010s I wasnt so interested in the franchise anymore, but for some reasons's I found the interest back about 1-2 years ago. And there were indeed many things I didnt know.
What I also didnt know is that Guile's wife Julia and Ken's wife Eliza are sisters, so you can basically say Guile and Ken are like family now, since their wifes are sisters.
And you are right about the eyebrows. Funny is in the first SF game from 1987, Ken had black eyebrows and brown eyes. In SF2 too. But in the 1994 movie starring Van Damme as Guile, the actor who potrayed Ken, Damian Chappa, is caucasian with blond hairs and blue eyes.
And after the movie came out, the Americans did a cartoon about the franchise, and there Ken suddenly was caucasian with blue eyes.
Since then, some times he has blue and sometimes brown eyes.
@@TheDumontShowleast I wasn't only person who said this many these people never herd Mas Oyama his marshall arts most successful
Much respect for you brother for pointing out all the facts.
i was but a wee lad in the days of Bruce, couldn't get enough of watching his movies, i found them funny more than anything, due to the broken English subtitles, truly a great fighter and technician, never knew him personally, but many talk well of him
I was living in Los Angeles and studying Go Soko Ryu under Shihan (now Soke) Takayuki Kubota during the Bruce Lee days. I casually asked one of my Japanese instructors what he thought about Mr. Lee. His response was exceptionally caustic. I was at that point in my life unaware of the hostility between Japan and China during WW II. He basically told me to go study with Bruce if that was my goal. (I didn't, and never brought up the subject again.).
I eventually mastered Bruce Lee's 3 inch punch (the one inch punch was beyond my capabilities, even after nearly 30 years of training). I demonstrated the technique to a class of mine, and knocked down 5 young men with one punch. I had the lead man cover his stomach with a phone directory as protection. Even I was impressed, even though it was the only technique of his that I was good at.
I really miss those days.
@@garygruber1452 you can learn the one inch punch in under a month. I did it would never take 30 years, simple mechanics
He wasn't a fighter in any way
@siddified But he literally fought fights though. Do you mean to say 'professional fighter'? And IF so, who stated he was?
@@AGNOSTIC_incomprehensibleXIV He said "a fighter in any way", he didn't specify professional. It's likely he had fights, but we don't know for sure if he fought anyone of note.
Very interesting piece. Raises my estimate of how Bruce Lee could do against really serious fighters. Speed kills.
Love your videos and watch all of them, thank you! My only critical feedback is the AI animations are rough to look at.
The AI is only going to get better. You should have seen how things looked just a few months ago on the same program using the previous model.
Your best video yet. Ive been waiting for this forever. Now, one on Mike Stone please.
Stone and Lewis could’ve been in Norris’ shoes if they weren’t so cocky. Norris was a much nicer person and got along well with Bruce. Stone was a brawler who fought in touch point karate tournaments, but intentionally hurt opponents by punching them as hard as he could. He was the one who stole Elvis’ wife Priscilla.
Mike Stone doesn't seem to be as popular as Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis, even though he's still living AND has a CZcams channel.
My channel has taken a hit since my daughter started walking - I'm always chasing after her instead of reading/writing/filming/editing. When I get back to where every other video gets 500k+ views, I'll look at a Mike Stone video, but there's not as much controversy around Mike Stone.
If anything, people might be surprised that, despite what Joe says, I think Bruce viewed Mike Stone as the best of those 3 guys.
I DO have an upcoming video about why Bruce shouldn't be compared to the Karate champs of his era - I might be able to work in something about Mike Stone in that video.
@@GoldenbellTraining I have seen it thnx. Strange thing is that there is no old action tournament footage available of Stone, like there is of Norris and Lewis. So I haven’t seen Stone fighting. His image only is formed by anecdotes other fighters told about him.
Mike Stone is now an author focusing on philosophy and spirituality. I think he is writing on one about him and his relationship with Priscilla Presley. And hopefully he includes how Elvis allegedly tried ro put a hit on him I hope he writes one on his relationship with Bruce
This is all based on his Facebook postings.
@@rollopolloboymarch1074 the assassination plan was foolish, but real. Some fans tend to think in that direction too, that’s why Stone lives in the Philippines now. There are some interviews with him on CZcams, but fight footage is absent.
Nice to see videos with integrity 🤩
Hi thank you very much for this great video.
But do you think we can trust John Little on the statements Herb Jackson would have made to him? Because a lot of people criticize John Little for making things up etc .
And what you say about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's statements, Kareem made these statements in which interview? To John Little too?
That birdie was still making so many videos telling all these fake stories for the last several weeks. He kept uploading like 2 or 3 videos a day.
Prince great content. You always do your homework. Stay in the grind. 👍🏿🙌🏿💪🏿👌🏿🤜🏿.
Bruce Lee was the best and never has been outdone by anyone. I doubt anyone ever will be better than he was. May he rest in peace.
The thing about Bruce is that he was that good but it's unbelievable to people because they can't accept he was really that good. But all you have to do is look at his movies. The camera can't even keep with his punches and kicks in the frame. That alone is proof.
If you watched any footage of Lee and still think he's all that great, you simply know nothing about martial arts or fighting.
@@siddified When did the OP mention fighting?
@@AGNOSTIC_incomprehensibleXIVthat's what they meant with the best and that's what the video is about. And I said he's not the best anything.
@@siddified The definition of the word 'best' doesn't explicitly imply 'fighting' and can be used to refer to anything. For example, it could be used to refer to being a representative. Can you provide a timestamp in the video where it's stated that Bruce Lee is the greatest fighter of all time?
Great video! Exactly what I've been commenting all the time! "You only have to read the book Wrath of the Dragon!" by John Little to understand Bruce's abilities.
John little is a delusional liar.
"Did you hear Bruce Lee fought Joe?"
"Joe who?"
Great video!!
One of the best content about Bruce Lee…love your videos!
I can’t find the clip anymore but there was a video that Joe talked about Bruce calling him to cast as colt in Retun Of The Dragon. Joe said he turned it down because he couldn’t vision being beaten by Bruce being karate fighting champion of the world. That came straight out of his mouth.
Before I started actually reading about Bruce, I believed this, but it's not true. Joe Lewis never spoke to Bruce again after 1969, and "Way of the Dragon" originally wasn't going to have a "Colt" character.
Unless Joe was lying then I can’t say but I really did saw a video clip where Joe was explaining he got a call from Bruce to play the colt. He explained he turned it down because in the movie he was to lose to Bruce and that didn’t sit well with him being a world champion. Like I said unless Joe was just lying then I can’t say but he said it on video himself.
@@viperguyz I thought the reason he didn't take the role cause they had a falling out, so Bruce asked Chuck instead
@@guts7958 According to the video interview he did, he said he turned it down because Bruce was to win and that didn’t sit well with him being world champion of the world. Bruce and they had that bad falling out but I think they could still interacted like men. You can see a lot of Joe’s interviews he’s got nothing but good praises for Bruce and not bad mouthing him.
@viperguyz what interview, I remember reading it was cause they had a falling out
Love your work outstanding
Nice to hear some truth...his speed was unbelievable to say the least!😁😎
What would we do if we didn’t have a channel like this calling out stuff people like beardy post
Good video and thanks for not speaking a mile-a-minute. I'd found with American tourists, back in the '80s, that whenever I talked to them (I was a barman in the family pub), and I talked to everyone when I could, the first thing that Americans would start with 'I', as in 'I did this' and it often continued that way... painfully.
I imagine those that spoke against Bruce were doing that same thing; how great they were themselves, especially if they didn't think there was anyone that could refute their stories after Bruce was gone. But... I wasn't there, so maybe I'm wrong.
Good video. It rings true in my ears.
It's funny how you have Fei Long (Bruce Lee) and Joe Lewis (Ken) RIP to the both of them from the Street Fighter video game as a reference to bring the point across. LOL 😂😂🤣🤣
Bruce Lee was very good for his weight class.
Of course, he could've won some of the people who are heavier than him.
But there are weight classes for a reason.
So, there's little to no chance he beat heavyweight champions.
Everything else is not true.
All these talks about him beating everyone in locker rooms with no video footage are not true.
I met Joe Lewis at a Tracy's Karate sparring instruction class in the mid-1980's. My instructor got his black belt from Joe Lewis. The first time I saw Joe Lewis was when he became the world heavy weigh kickboxing champion around 1972. Joe was incredible but after the class, of course we wanted to know about his relationship with Bruce Lee. He had nothing but great things to say about Bruce. He said he was the fastest fighter he ever trained with and that even though he was small, he hit like a heavyweight. Joe had the utmost respect for Bruce and he learned a lot from him. One thing he taught that was passed down to the Tracy's fighters was something called "independent motion", which I used to great success as a point tournament fighter. One last thing, even though Joe was a point karate champion, he got away from it because he didn't feel like it was truly fighting. That's why he went into full contact fighting and he elevated the sport as the first real star of kickboxing. He was followed by others such as Bill "Superfoot" Wallace and others, but Joe was the guy who put professional kickboxing on the map when he won the world heavyweight championship. Joe could hit so hard, he was intimidating, but a nice guy when talking to him.
Joe was a USA heavyweight champion kickboxer but he was a karate world champion and he never said Bruce was a fighter, he said he was a great martial artist and teacher
The speed, power and control of bruce lee was incredible, oh to have been a fly on the wall during some of his encounters and demonstations. If anyone invents a time machine, the bruce lee erra is where I'm headed....not to challenge him of course!
I had an instructor (5th degree black belt by the name of Camparato) in Kenpo Karate who was asked if he would spar with Bruce Lee. He agreed. And as the story went, Bruce knocked him out.
Love this content. Plan to learn more about Joe Lewis. I would recommend to put an ad break in the middle to keep this business going
@Yoda..,Aww,man, why you tryin to push BAD IDEAS..?? .."ADS.."?? UGH..
I really respect your discussions you are legit
Hey Prince ! ✌️😉..Started watching your vids recently, ; Im diggin em !! You seem really straight up, & righteous, soo, keep on keepin on, baby, & ya got another friend out here in thee "youtube wastelands"..~Peace, K
good info!
The famous Bruce punch, looks more like a famous Bruce Lee push to me.
What does this mean, it's a vague statement.
“How you like that drill cuz?” 😉
😂
@@GoldenbellTraining You mentioned Cuzz there. David Hughes also says Joe and Bruce only did pre arranged drills. Both trained seperately with Joe Lewis. They are both credible martial artists that say the same thing, even though they have never met !
It's easier for Joe to say he never sparred with bruce, so that he don't need to admit what happened during the spars.
Joe lewis don't like admitting he was no match for bruce, but he sometimes gives game away.
Joe said "you probably couldn't hit bruce with a speeding bullet he was so fast"
Yes, bruce sparred with joey orbillo within 15 minutes of meeting him, and we are supposed to believe bruce never sparred with Joe lewis? 😅
Whatever stopped Bruce Lee from plopping down a few bucks and entering a tournament? It would have been an astonishingly easy accomplishent it seems. But he didnt. It makes no sense that Lee trained competitors ( after ambushing them in hotel lobbies and parking lots to teach them) , gave out trophies, signed autographs and competed in them in the movies but supposedly didnt believe in them in real life. It seems he was simply afraid to lose in public.
I find Lewis far more believable than a student's story about how Lee was untouchable.
That's nice 🙂
Same
Bruce Lee wasn't just a fighter with Bruce Lee it was the art of fighting he was like a way higher level than anyone way higher than Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis he could have fought them together and beat them both to a pulp
thanks for all of these
Bruce Le detractors would hate this video
Too Bad Bruce Lee Was Before My Time. Watching His Films... That Guy Was Ahead Of His Time. Greatest Martial Artist To This Day!! He Just Can’t Be Touched...LITERALLY. No Comparison!!
If his name is Beardy why does he call himself Birdy? I think Bruce humbled these guys. They like to say getting in the ring is fighting. Maybe, if you get rid of the glove, the Ref, the crowd and the money. They need to build up what they do, and run Bruce down. But even Bruce didn't think he could take Ali. I think he's selling himself short.
Great info super grateful bro...awesome awesome ...thank you...
What about the incident that John Little mentioned where Joe Lewis had a confrontation with Bruce and afterwards he wouldn't talk about it but he said Bruce called him a punk? Kareem Abdul Jabbar in an interview said Bruce gave him pointers on sparring with Joe Lewis and Joe couldn't touch him the entire time.
John little is a delusional liar.
@@siddified Little cites credible sources for everything he says or writes about. Far more than you do with your baseless defamation.
@@impettus The stories from credible witnesses are hearsay which may or may not be true.
Why hasn't Linda confirmed or debunked some of these stories, Prince? If these guys trained at Bruce's house, Linda would have been there.
I find it interesting that Bruce ways are similar to Miyamoto Musashi text. Did Bruce study Musashi's work? When you look at them both they are very similar, well to me at least. ^_^
0:55 My gawd, I haven't watched the English-dubbed version of "Way of the Dragon" since I got the DVD Box Set back in the day!
The BEST Bruce channel 💯💯💯
James Demile had some interesting things to say aswell. There's a clip of him speaking on Lee and real fighting as opposed to show fighting. He said that Lee was unbeatable even when 3 of them went for Lee and actually tried to dominate him.
Back in the very early 1970s I had a School Teacher , that competed in some of those Karate tournaments I Think back, in the late 1960s to early 1970s , he was a Black Belt in a Karate Style I don't hear much about these days , I don't even know if it still exist ? After this Comment I will google and see , but he was the person that got me interest in Karate and martial arts , well before i forget the Style it is called American Style Karate . I really Love seeing a Channel that tells the facts , and I believe that your channel does .
I don't know his name, but I have read (or watched) something about the creator of American Style Karate. I may have talked about him in a video debunking some of Beerdy's nonsense. Can't remember right now - running on very little sleep the last few days watching my daughter & rushing to get this video finished.
I was these When this Happened As A Teenager In High School In The 60's And Saw Everyone Of These Long Beach Arenas Events , Back In Those Days Everyone wanted To Be Kato From the Green Hornet So when ever Bruce Was there We All Went To Cheer Him On !!
Really good video... For a min. i thought he was talking about the boxer.
Makes sense.. why else would he continue to spread the knowledge and promote Bruce Lee's training approach? There's an interview of Joe Lewis speaking as if the damage he took, the way he was hit from their intitial exchange influenced him to come back, learn more and be trained by Bruce Lee. Why would any champion make that kind of choice if the person were not authentic?
Bruce Lee! A beautiful incredible and remarkable man. A true legend. What a loss for the world but I am so grateful we had him. Watching Enter the Dragon on laserdisc over and over as a kid and then doing all the moves from the movie were such great times. I learned so much from Bruce Lee as well and still do to this day. I love him for letting me know to flow rather than crash...ive crashed plenty but the heads up even I could understand as a kid probably saved my life in some ways. Thank you Master Lee 🙏💛
At this point Beardie may be using AI in his fiction Bruce Lee stories
The stories would be better if they came from AI. There would be more details
Point proven Golden Bell training Bruce Lee was superhuman laughing out..I have to confess I was a bit disappointed Michael Jai White dis respected Bruce Lee like that ! wow ! i watched this episode 2 times : - ) thats-a-million Prince
WOW !! thanks for the Golden Bell training 'HONORED ' : - )
At last a genuinely well balanced well thought out view on what MAY have. happened. BUTsurly what ever the truth may or may not have been. It must and shouldn't take anything away. from either Bruce or Lewis. but human nature is being what it is the actual flesh and blood reality of our heroes are very often brushed away to make. way. for the David that took on Goliath, the jack that took on the giant. But lee must have still pound for pound something truly exceptional and one genuinely gifted martial artist.
Bruce Lee and Joe Lewis were close and then one day there was a fight in the studio after a whole lot of commotion and noise Joe Lewis came out all beat up and then a little bit later Bruce Lee came walking out with not a mark on him
Thank you sir. 👍🏻👏🏻👊🏻
My dear man, I have often watched and listened to these kinds of films of yours where you tell tasty stories about Bruce Lee vs. other fighters, and I have also often watched and listened to this Bearded Man for the same reason.
And there is something that strikes me in the meantime between you and Beardman and you, and that is why I am here:
There seems to be a competition going on between you and Beardman, which mainly focuses on what about Bruce, and what is true and what is not true about Bruce Lee, and Bruce Lee and others.
But there is something else, something very special that particularly strikes me: And that is that Baardman often does his best to let people speak who speak poorly about Bruce Lee and then Baardman also comes up with evidence, I mean, with his so-called evidence to prove that these bad speakers are right.
You, on the other hand, also come up with the statements of these bad speakers, but you then show with film footage that these bad speakers admit that they only spoke bad things about Bruce Lee, and that they did this before they actually had contact with Bruce themselves, and that their opinion of Bruce Lee and what Bruce Lee could do and what he was capable of has completely changed. After their contact, they had a completely different opinion about Bruce and became a fan, often even a student.
And this is often not shown, not told and even concealed by beardman, and if beardman ever mentions that you have the counterevidence and that beardman is wrong, then Beardman says that it is not true.
But everyone knows that people who can show the images are right.
So people like you.
Keep up the good work, I stand for truth and justice.
That's why I won't watch Beardman anymore.
good video
I completely understand about myths bu5 it can work the other way as well. With Bruce being so popular in the Medea if there was anyone who had really defeated him doesn’t one think that would be plastered all over the place. I’m not really a Bruce Lee fan in the fanatical sense but as a human being to a fellow human being he was phenomenal to say the least. As a fighter and as a human being.
Folks believe Hollywood and movies too much.bruce was good but not as the movies made him to be. There was no Internet back then for him to be exposed and meet his match.... I love Bruce movies but I don't mix TV with reality.....
Honestly that sums it up,now we had some CZcams martial artist that seemed good on bags but lost when they got into fights with actual fighters
Yes I’m a big believer of Bruce as he as proven and proven yet again that he is the one above the rest rip little dragon master
Lee used weapon first (independent motion) technique very well. That and his natural speed made his attacks very effective.
Good video, you do some real good research. And, only an idiot would think that Bruce and Joe Lewis never sparred
Game of Death is one example of Bruce Lee's Movies that inspired the video game concept of fighting levels and bosses with difficulty the more you advanced. Without Bruce Lee one of the tenants of video gaming concepts would not exist. The concept of a final boss is rooted in all games from kung fu master to super Mario Bros and the list goes on. The video gaming industry should recognize Bruce Lee in it's rooted history.
Clickbait. They never really fought. The result would have been unpredictable.