How Does Kaleidescape Work? | Full UI Overview Review Deep Dive | Ultimate Home Theater Movie Player
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- čas přidán 5. 05. 2022
- In this video, I'm doing a UI review/overview of the Kaleidescape Strato/Terra ultimate movie player platform. I cover how the movie wall works, library controls, movie store access, and playback controls. If you're curious how a Kaleidescape works and operates, this video is for you. Check out other videos on the channel for more Kaleidescape coverage.
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It’s a great platform. If they ever find a way to make it available to the masses, it would be ideal. I can’t remember if you equated 12TB to title count, but I reckon one could rotate titles in and out to keep the catalog fresh. Thanks for the video. You present the information well.
Thanks! 12TB is about 200 movies stored. That’s just how many you have local though. All purchases are logged to your account and can redownloaded at any time.
A 12tb harddrive costs about 250 dollars.
What is the format of the files? Are they just mkv files?
The cost of storage is one of the biggest pains of the K system. They charge much more for storage than any individual drive costs. Kaleidescape encodes and packages the movies in their own format specific for their hardware. That’s internal information, so we don’t know how exactly they package it or what the file type is.
@@TechthusiasmIf they could lower that price and the price of the system the movie prices are not horrible. But really I don’t think overall people would be able to tell if a movie was playing on K v. Apple TV I just don’t think they can do that much difference. I like the K platform much butter then Apple but the price just makes is unreadable. I just buy the DVDs and burn the disks use Plex. That way. They can never take it away from you. .
I’m a new Kscape owner. Very good information! Thanks
Awesome and congrats! Hopefully my K videos will help you maximize your use of the platform. More coming...
I enjoy watching the video clip about Kaleidescape i will be sticking what i have apple.
Thanks! Yep, no shame in sticking to Apple and iTunes. I’ll have more to say on that coming up. It’s arguably the best option out there IMO.
Lovely video my friend . Keep up the good work. Do you know how many titles they have all together ?
Thanks! Hmm, I’m not sure. Some thousands of titles or more I expect.
I've had my Kaleidescape for a few months now, really enjoying it. I was hoping you would go into info about chapters in the movies. The chapters are there (you can press the Skip forward/Backwards buttons) but there's no listing that I can find of the chapter breaks, that would be nice to list like they do the scenes but I'm at a loss if it's listed somewhere, I've not found it as of yet.
I'm not aware of a chapter listing in the UI. There's a few other things I missed in this video, like how subtitles work. I'll be making more though coming up.
So nice..
I'm getting my Marantz sr 8015 and either the new JVC nz7 or Sony vpl xw6000 laser projector.
I would so love to get a 6 terabyte kaleidescope but not for $8,000. I can see getting in around $4,000 ... There has to be a way...
I really love your videos! Keep up the great work!
Very informative videos to novice like myself..
Nick
Thanks for the compliments! Let me know what other content would be helpful to you.
No shame in skipping the K, doing something else with all that money, and choosing another source. Apple TV and iTunes is real solid as is.
@@Techthusiasm Right now I'm just using a Roku device for my content. I own a Sony ubp-x800m2 for what will be my 4k movies...
I'll just have to look on k forums and maybe I'll get lucky.
Thanks so much for your insights.
Nick
The issue is how do you know the box can play back movies as good as a UB820 for example. Are tge black levels raised and is the picture quality accurate etc
Thanks!
My man! The first Super Thanks I've received so far! Applause of the day to Allan! That means a ton to me!
A great idea for downloading would be SMS notification of what movies have finished downloading a movie or a select list of movies and let's you know so each movie downloaded is finished.
Another feature to build into the networking section would be P2P torrent downloading.. not able to download torrent files but if other users have the movie, you can allocate upto Xxxx amount of users to assist with downloading, similar to torrent to speed up downloads.
Notifications like that would be cool. You can see things like in the mobile app though, so you have control of your system on your phone. It works really well. I did a separate video on the app for Apple devices.
Just wondering if you can create users for different members of the family and add selected titles to a specific user at any time to open their collection up as they age??
I don't believe it is that granular, but I will look more into parental controls and maybe make a dedicated video.
Great video Jaremy! Not being able to see you WHOLE purchase library is a fatal flaw to me. How much space would just having the cover actual take? Someone like you or me that owns thousands of movies would want to see all of them. When you are looking for a movie to watch just showing me what is currently downloaded isn’t really helping me. They are basically forcing me to remember my whole 1800+ collection unless I heard you wrong.
You can access your entire library online or in the store where you can choose to download. The library view on device is currently designed to just show available downloads.
I think that choice reflects a now failed idea that you would have enough storage to always hold all your movies, and you add more storage as you buy more movies. If the storage was reasonably priced then I might do that. But I don’t and I think a lot of folks in the platform don’t as well today.
@@Techthusiasm I agree. But a simple software update would add at the most a few hundred megabits if that of your entire library and then if not on the actual player a download button. That would bring more power to the wall. I would want to see ALL the movies I had purchased regardless if they are downloaded or not. And they could always add a filter to only show you downloaded content if that’s your preference. For example I might want to watch Master and Commander Far Side of the World if it popped up as owned even though it’s not currently downloaded but owned.
Yep, I'm with you. I plan to make a video coming with a ton of design suggestions to evolve the UI. I hope folks comment very strongly on that with their ideas.
Jaremy, I'd love to see a review of remotes, forgive me if I've missed it if you have already covered it. Specifically I'm interested in the Kaleidescape remote. After using the Nvidia Shield Pro 2019 remote, it is my high bar as I love the remote but still hate the stability of the Shield itself. The Shield remote excels at backlight, simple use and feel, and is RF. For how much one spends on the Kaleidescape, they should be embarrassed by using such a dated remote, even if it is one of the best remotes of its time. When I look at the remote it reminds me of my MythTV, and XBMC days, but would give me the feeling of spending $1000 for a $2 hammer.
Would love to hear your input and thoughts on this.
K doesn't even include a remote in the box any more. The prior remote is still available as a direct add-on purchase, but it's not really very good. There's an assumption on their part (for right or wrong) that customer won't use a packaged remote. They assume the devices are in a rack or room somewhere out of sight and out of mind. They have a really nice mobile app with great device control and integrate really well with advanced systems, like Control4. I should be talking a lot K on a live stream coming up (probably 12/21), FYI.
@@Techthusiasm Thats great feedback, thanks a ton. That is my setup (a rack in another separate room), and I run everything via a custom remote, currently Home Assistant on an iPad. As long as they have a good open APIs to integrate solutions with, and aren't a closed system to expensive integrtions like Control4, Crestron, my concerns and questions about the remote are moot.
Thanks again for the great feedback!
-Matt
Sure thing! Please do use my referral code if you decide to jump in. :) It's pyle21432.
Im thinking of getting a k but do i have to buy something else along with it or can i just use the space it has on it?
A Strato C is not a complete Kaleidescape system. Yes, you need a Terra to go with it. Message me at techthusiasm_jp@outlook.com, and I can put you in touch with some folks to help you out with getting a system.
What is the requirement for internet speed,in order to download a 4k movies and store in the terra server?And how long does it take to download ?
There's no hard requirement. The store will serve you up to about 800 or 900 Mbps. If you have that fast of service, you can download a 4K movie in around 10 minutes. If you have slower service, it will take proportionately longer to download.
Hola solo son peliculas en hdr10? No hay en hdr10+ o dolby vision?
HDR10 only, yes.
How does it work? I will totally never buy this but im curious. Do you just buy one of their devices and you got all those movies for free? Is download optional? How much does one movie weight?
I've been a user for a few years. Works great. Movies are not free. You buy hardware and then buy (or rent) in their store. You must download to play content, but you can download/delete/download again content that you own. A 4K movie I would say clocks in anywhere from maybe 60GB to 100GB.
Great video. I like the endless scrolling but man that blue and yellow is terrible. I can't be the the only one to think this. Lol.
That's their signature brand colors. :) I don't think we'll see that changing any time soon.
@@Techthusiasm True! 😆 Thanks for the reply.
They got yall trying to trick us into buying this 😂
What trick? Kaleidescape is awesome.
What about recent movie releases is this part of the package
Included in the price, no. But premium access to movies still in theaters and months ahead of possible physical release, yes.
What's astounding to me is that you need to pay $30 - 40 for a digital license of the movie. This price is on par with physical copy. Isn't that nuts? Non-transferable too, since it ties with your email account.
If the purchases were 50% the price of physical media, then it would make more sense.
Cheaper prices would be great, for sure. At least there are regular bundles and sales plus the D2D program to help.
Do you have to rebuy movies you currently own?
K does have a form of disc to digital that may be available to you to help migrate into the platform. Otherwise, yes, you're buying content again. I have a video on the D2D process.
Does it have a shuffle/auto play feature, for you library?
Hi. Can you clarify your question? The K has a UI shuffle feature, yes, which I've demonstrated. But I'm not sure what you mean by auto play.
@@Techthusiasm I mean similar to what plex has. Plex has a shuffle feature that allows you to play movies your library in random order. When you're watching a movie and click next movie, it's in random order. I was just wondering if the Kaleidescape has a feature like that?
Got it. K doesn't have that. K shuffle is more about having the UI show like titles.
@@Techthusiasm Ok, that’s good to know. Thanks for that. By any chance do you know if any digital movie platform (ie Vudu, iTunes, Amazon, etc.) has a shuffle feature? I’ve been looking into starting a digital movie collection, but I haven’t seen any site with that feature.
I'm not aware of any.
Is there any films that dont make it onto kaleidescape?
Yes, for sure. Most new movies make it, but there is still room to fill out the catalog.
Can those movies be in catergorised?
K lets you sort by genres and such categories in the list view. You can also add movies that are downloaded to custom collections.
That's great,thanks.
Buying 6TB, how many 4K HDR movies will it hold?
You'll get a bit under 100 movies (assuming 4k quality) on 6TB.
@@Techthusiasm Man oh man! That's a bummer, I really wish Kaleidescape would take into consideration your take on how to improve the platform! I did find a good deal on a Strato and TB6 but even at $6500 that's hard to stomach 100 movies (stored) and some like "The Crow" for example don't even have available for 4K HDR! Do they have stuff like the Snyder cut of Justice League or the extended cut from Lord of The Rings? Being someone like me that doesn't own any Blurays, 4K Blurays or a player, at this point where Kaleidescape is would you recommend purchasing one?
What do you normally watch movies with? And what kind of AV system do you have?
@@Techthusiasm First, Incredible channel, great and extremely helpful info! I normally stream movies from Apple TV 4K to my Sony A9G OLED, my HT isn't complete yet. When it is I have a RS2100, 145" 2.40:1 StudioTek 130 G4, Lumagen 4242, and a Paladin DCR lens all still sitting in boxes LOL. For audio my weak link the Marantz AV7706, an A31, and two A52+ amps, I didn't copy you LOL, I just happened to have them :) Thanks again!
Considerable system for sure and, yeah, we share some gear. Nice! This a hard one. Maybe I'll make a video on it. You surely have a cost level and quality level of system that can justify the additional cost of a K. And if you want the highest fidelity content, you either go physical or K. Physical is cheaper, but not as convenient or elegant. K is big $$$ of course but so nice to use.
I have been heavily debating, especially of late, my expenditures for K and my hefty gaming PC vs. the alternative of just accepting iTunes/Apple TV and consoles. My cost and system complexity would go down considerably to do this. I already have big content and gaming libraries on those other platforms. I'm really drawn to this. Console gaming should only get better and Apple quality should only get better. There's already rumors today of another Apple TV model coming this year.
If cost is really no object, then hey why not, toss a K in there along side the Apple TV and pick and choose what movies in your theater you want maximum quality for and enjoy. If not though, nothing wrong IMO to just sticking to that Apple TV and calling it a day. You already have your library there. I'm really affected by paradox of choice though and want to eliminate choices and replicate things from my life.
Do u buy the moves or is the biggest expense paying for the movies up front, I no the devices are near 10k uk so quite dear I just dont see the point I know in usa u almost get real time cinema releases but is that really still a thing this day and age?
Yes, you do buy movies separately in the platform. The can range from $6 on sale up to $40 for stuff still in theaters from certain studios. Most are about $20. K does get many releases very early, and usually always much earlier than disc if a disc is released.
Pls share your referral code. I would like to add your code for a referral. I got my Strato C today. Thank you for all the great videos!
That's awesome! Thank you so much! The code is pyle21432.
@@Techthusiasm you are welcome. I submitted your code for referral 👍 I was able to locate it on the description of the video.
I saw it come through last night, thanks again! Enjoy and let me know what you want to see in future content related to K.
Why anyone would pay $8,000 for the privilege to pay for the movies they own again makes no sense to me. What am i missing?
The K platform has a ton of excellent virtues to it - convenience, library, elegance, early access, and more. It's expensive, and it is a content island. Those are the main cons. There is a decent disc to digital program now, at least, that helps to onboard into the platform.
@Techthusiasm Do you have to have to have a valid code from the Blu-ray disc to get the disc to digital copy? Obviously, like others, all mine have been cashed in already. Also, do they ever offer upgrade paths on the hardware for those who start out with the 6tb to try it out and want to jump to a larger server later?
No code needed for Kaleidescape redemption. You actually use the disc itself to redeem for for a disc-to-digital offer. You connect a drive to your Strato, pop the disc in, and wait a few seconds. Then the offer will appear in your account online. I have a video about that process here on the channel. Check the Kaleidescape playlist.
What happens if they go bankrupt
Maybe they'll broker a way for your purchases to transfer to another platform. Anything you have downloaded to hardware should continue to play. Essentially though, it'll be a big bust and we all own fairly useless and worthless bricks. What happens if any company goes bankrupt and you own their stuff?
@@Techthusiasm I was trying to find an answer to this, but the KScape people at CEDIA were kind of cagey. That leads me to believe that at some point in time, files will randomly start looking for license keys and with no server access to get them, they will stop playing over a period of time (the average life of a key before renewal is an unknown at this time). There is heavy DRM after all and it is a closed system. The studios wouldn't continue giving them business if there wasn't some sort of end of life kill code.
@@Techthusiasm Yeah, not going to happen. That is probably the reason why the costs of the hardware and aoftware is so high. They already made a profit from the purchases.
@@dan_hitchman007Shane Lee claims the files since they are downloaded will still be available. But if it doesn't this system is stupid. There seems to be this elitist attitude towards this since apparently this is only for rich people. But that is a very ignorant perspective since the true cinephile will invest some money into systems like these if they make sense. And sorry to say, this doesn't make any sense. Other than convenience there are no real benefits over using physical media. I don't want a 12TB drive which eventually will fail. A 4K UHD Blu-ray disc or a normal Blu-ray disc will last longer than this hard drive. The fact that the films are tied to the system and can't be transferred is ridiculous. A NAS KODI or PLEX solution at least has the option for the hard drives to be replaced when they become faulty.
I'm rather surprised that Kaleidescape doesn't have a way to show all your Movies at once. If Free Plex can do it I'm sure K is also capable. I'm nitpicking but is there a way to manually tag a Movie as "Watched" that K hasn't automatically tagged? Would still Love to have it but,as I've said before,that price is Crazy Expensive!!🤑👨🏾🦲
Room for improvement and new features in the UI for sure.