@@IDK3679. Kobe isn't better than LBJ in any major analytical category. MJ is only better at scoring. LBJ is better Playmaking wise offensively overall, and defensively.
@@teaganfrenkel9286 ya but first he says no and then he says they have to shut the hell up cuz if that doesn’t make him the best basketball player. Contradictory.
@@teaganfrenkel9286 the video has been edited that way to make it seem like he said something different. What he basically said in the real interview was that if he passes Kareem in points then he will be top 3 all time. This video makes it seem like he’s saying he’d be the goat and that’s not what he said
No one else THRILLS the way Michael Jordan did. He was thrilling to watch. My husband and I never watched sports. Together 44 years. But we couldn't wait to see the Jordan clips on the news if the game wasn't on tv. And we live in NY!
True, I never understood people who care about career totals in this debate. Of all possible factors you could consider, career totals is literally at the bottom of my list. It's an effectiveness + longevity measure.
@@m74d3 I know Lebron is a great player but…the GOAT??? Too late. We can talk about MJ without mention nobody else but about Lebron🤔? Always will be a shadow named MJ💪🏻
@@skinnerfamily2015 not always, the bulls were awful when MJ got drafted lol And stayed that way for years till they drafted Pip and Grant. Then with again with the Wizards lol But Mike always got the best outta his teammates just like Kobe. Doesn't matter who's wearing the jersey next to em they gonna give you all they got and then some. But MJ played on some pretty bad teams and still carried them into the playoffs. Almost beat the mighty celtics in one game where MJ set the record for most points in a playoff game. Watched it like 20 times 😆 Kobe and MJ will do whatever it takes for their teams to win.
@@legendarywiimaster why the f you brought up Lebron's name here? We are talking about the closest thing to mJ and bron ain't even a quarter of that in terms of playstyle and winning mindset
Who the greatest is in any sport will always be a difficult discussion to have, primarily because different people prioritize different sets of criteria towards the evaluation process.
People won’t give bron the respect until he pass everyone in points and wins bout 3 more rings because 4 rings in 20 years 🤦♂️ “the goat” debate about bron shouldn’t even be in discussion 💯Bron Needs a 3 Peat then we can talk 💯👇 Personal opinion: curry could pass everyone in points if he put in the amount of time bron has🗣curry got 4 rings and beat BRON 3/4 of them rings in the finals. So yea 4 rings already while it took bron 20 year and hopping franchises 💯 (Edit: thanks for the likes.)
Even then the GOAT debate is so opinionated. It’s all about narratives surrounding LeBron and MJ. Bron is hated, MJ is idolised as the perfect basketball player. Lebron could have 100 rings but some one will say but hes 100-10 in the finals
@@EkoJah that’s not the argument he needed to switch teams to win while mj and kobe stayed loyal and won them rings building teams from the ground the bulls where the worse organization
1996 Bulls. They never quit and played hard and had competition that could take them down. The Warriors didn’t. They barely tried and put minimal effort
How he said to him he no where near close to mike in his book as an overall player. BUT if Lebron passes Kareem in we all have to shut the hell up. Language isn't difficult
@robertcoburn1508 What the hellbare you on about? You probably were looking for something to comment on. Fun fact: I'm not a LeBron fan, thats not even what was being discuss. Get off the internet and live your life.
@@williamdavenport4183 The point is Kobe Bryant dropped 81 and he is The Goat, got 5 rings and a cold blooded Assassin Mentality. Lebron passes so much to his own detriment. Honestly the sweep ties in like this and the Nuggets were up 21 in Game 1 and Lebron had a chance to tie the game and possibly win it in OVERTIME, he didnt do it he BRICKED THE GAME TYING 3, LEBRON TRIED TO GET TOO CUTE BY DUNKING AND MISSED THE DUNK, LEBRON CHUCKED UP 3 AFTER 3 AFTER 3 TO LITERALLY SHOOT US OUT OF THE GAME AND THEN DOWN 0-3 WE ARE UP 73-58 AT HALFTIME JUST TO LOSE IN GAME 4 AND GET THE BALL RIPPED FROM.HIS HANDS BY JAMAL Murray Very Unclutch! Kobe never got punked like that
@MrBarborosa I didn't know basketball is tennis so funny you say that about Jordan playing a team sport, so basically you are saying lebron won is 4 rings all by himself
umm. at the moment kareem has the most point, 6 chips, but shaq still puts mj at the top. if lj passes kareem and 4 chips, why do we gotta shut the hell up??
ain't make no damn sense, Kareem was not even the best player for 4 of those rings, Mj was the best player and best career average above wilt 30.1 ppg and better offensively and defensively on the court Mj goat
@@damyko Well we know that aint happening the man aint played defense in like 6 years now!! 🤣🤣🤣 And people actually tell me I'm hating on LBJ because I don't value winning enough!!🤣🤣🤣 How? He is the biggest loser in the top 10!! Almost Winning IS NOT WINNING! This is lost on these I'd rather go people! Im like Brandy out here Almost Doesn't Count!!🤣🤣🤣
In Wilts Era with no Goal tending in effect and a Center can just wait in the Rim it would be close to impossible for Jordan to shine. You should all talked about how the NBA back then would add new rules just to Nerf the dominance of Wilt Chamberlaine., They had to make the game hard for him because he is a living Nightmare to all.
Idk, I mean Bron passed up Kobe but think about it Kobe has done incredible things in the game of basketball just think. Even though he passed him up I say their tied.
@@ericwood945 U were born when LeBron just started in the league u bet you grew up watching him but if u grew up watching Kobe that's a whole different story.
@@SXRCLANJAYDEN I was born in 1992 lol... I saw Kobe play... he lost them the 2004 finals... shot them straight out of the games... I saw his bad and good games Kobe is the king of shooting bricks he only has one season MVP and 2 Finals MVP
There will never be another MJ. The Game was different back then. If any team tried to play defense like they did in the 80’s-90’s to maybe even the 2000’s, the whole team would foul out
Bron is the best playmaker of all time Bron is the most consistent player of all time Bron is the best all around player and teammate of all time Bron has made the biggest impact on mediocre teams, making them finals contenders Bron went to 8 finals in a row on different teams… that’s dominance But when we say “greatest” we got a problem now
Magic is the best playermaker of all-time. KAJ, Moses, K.Malone all have a argument for most consistent. Jordan is more complete than LeBron. 00s East had multiple mediocre teams make the Finals, that more about the conference than LeBron. 8 Finals in a row is impressive. Best player LeBron faced out East from 11-18? LeBron isn't better than Jordan. Coaches, gms, media/polls, player past and present have Jordan>LeBron
Its simple Michael had the greatest peak... And it wasent 5byears were talking 14 years of being hamds down the best in the league. No debate.... LeBron has more years of dominance and had a more well rounded game.... And played better teams... However that Dallas loss put LeBron behind him. Dallas was hot that year but so was the Jazz Suns and Supersonics when Michael played them.
@@Jamal-sr9nn idk who you’re talking about, cuz LeBron has 4 MVPs, Jordan has 6 FMVPs, and Kareem has 2 FMVPs, so which “goat” are you talking about? Cuz the stats you listed are stats that no NBA player has
He’s the greatest player for his era Michael was the greatest for his is he the greatest of all time no does he dominate in certain aspects yes but so did Michael at the end of the day both were amazingly great players
Difference between Jordan/Kobe & LeGoat is Jordan/Kobe played for their own Legacy and were only worried about their own game and improving themselves, Legoated improves himself and his game as well BUT he doesn’t play for himself, he’s the type of player to play and act as a manager, his game is easy to play with because he uses all his teammates to make plays and win the game and not only does he do this but he also makes everyone around him play at their best game. Every team he was on after/around 2010 he’s made everyone on the team better and hes aware of their strengths and makes plays to highlight them. This makes him better to play with but it also makes others not view his game or him to the level of Jordan or Kobe because he doesn’t worry about himself, he’s playing for the win- the bigger picture is the team with LeGoat and Kobe/Jordan’s game was more so “what can I do” and that’s why they were harder to play with on the team but it also highlights their own game which makes for a better *player* as an individual vs a good player which makes the *team* better
First of all, MJ made everyone better. Secondly, Kobe was supposedly the same as Penny, yet Shaq only 3-peated with Kob. Also, Pau Gasol was 0-12 in the playoffs before Kobe. Meaning he got swept first round 3 times. First year with Kobe they go to the Finals. Kobe also heightened Kawhi, Kyrie, Tatum, and many other's game and they weren't even team mates. Thirdly, Westbrook definitely looked worse with Lebron. I respect Bron. But he didn't magically elevate everyone while Kobe and MJ just won by fixating on their jumper.
He won’t get respect unless he wins about 25 rings. Everyone feels the need to hate LeGoat for no good reason (except maybe ditching Cleveland, but even then, he went back and got then a ring)
Pretty much everybody gives uneeded have to lebron. Like people say if lebron played in 90’s he would just flop, the game of basketball is about adjusting to competition so he would adjust and not flop for example
“Shaq don’t have an opinion. Shaq has every opinion. Shaq gonna tell you all the opinions in a row. Shaq gonna keep talking. Shaq lonely.” - Shaq, interior monologue (probably)
Let’s rings are about talent and lack. Good GMs, coaching, etc… Jordan is the greatest. But Jerry Krause kept taking risks. Looking unique players. Not just pippen. But Grant. Meaning the first 3 peat they had one of the most athletic teams in the league. Krause wanted a big man shooter. He first tried with Brad Sellers and got lucky with Toni. Picked up Rodman in the second repeat.
@MIGGYꪜ you can’t be serious, size? Play style? Score first mentality? LeBron is not the closest to MJ, It’s Kobe, MJ himself said he steals all his moves, LeBron doesn’t play anything like MJ
I’ve seen this like 3 times today .. you CZcamsrs gotta start be more original.. there’s a whole world of content.. you don’t have to repost😂 we don’t need the same video being posted a billion tiomes
He aint passed mike n sht. Fk points. Dawg dont defend. Kobe defended. Mike defended. If mike or kobe wanted points they wouldve got it. They focused on wins and wins abundantly. Gaf who u is, aint nobody passed MJ. I saw old azz mj cant get 55 no more but you know what he was doing on dem bum azz wizards? Defending, hustling til he couldnt do it no mo. He wasnt out there for points. All dem points and less chips how d fk u do dat?!
your a prisoner of the moment. lebron does defend but doesn’t give it his all,as of right now, ( because of old age) but if you go back before he was as old as the dinosaurs he actually did defend and was very good at it. Btw he still can defend and will when he needs to. As soon as it hits playoffs he in a new mode .
Lebron in his prime was a better defender than Kobe or Jordan. Stop it. He just has to do to much so he can’t go balls to the ball on both ends of the floor. He finished second in DPOY voting 3 years in a row and everyone knows he was robbed when Gasol won it over him. He’s a 6 time all nba defender. Maybe the best shot blocking non big ever in his prime
just stop it. your clearly being fed misinformation by the media telling you he doesn't play defense because they feed you two clips of him not playing defense throughout his 19 year career and you think he doesn't play d. he don't defend? do you even watch basketball? he has 6 all defense and was a runner up for dpoy 3 times (was robbed of one) and that's not even just that. lebron is a great team defender as he can guard any position because of his size and strength and athletecism. on any mismatch it wouldn't even be a mismatch for Bron. he is an insane interior defender. in the playoffs lebron is a very serious defender and puts in his all. you just sound like someone who got brainwashed by the media
Shaq: Says LeBron isnt close
Also Shaq: Says he just needs to pass Kareem
Fr lol
Two different type of goats. Engine versus the finisher. Lebron/Shaq vs MJ/Kobe.
@@simeonwashington4991 Lebron is both and better than your Finishers
@@sharifbrown3567 🧢
@@IDK3679. Kobe isn't better than LBJ in any major analytical category. MJ is only better at scoring. LBJ is better Playmaking wise offensively overall, and defensively.
I love how Shaq contradicts himself, like allll the time. 😭
he meant he passed up kobe and mike in points
He didnt. Yoy just dont have enough braincells
@@teaganfrenkel9286 Kobe is the closest To MJ
@@teaganfrenkel9286 ya but first he says no and then he says they have to shut the hell up cuz if that doesn’t make him the best basketball player. Contradictory.
@@teaganfrenkel9286 the video has been edited that way to make it seem like he said something different. What he basically said in the real interview was that if he passes Kareem in points then he will be top 3 all time. This video makes it seem like he’s saying he’d be the goat and that’s not what he said
"If LeBron starts making Icy Hot commercials, he passes me, we all gotta shut the hell up"
Now this is funny affff 🤣😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@allanencines5606 spirte cranberry
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Underrated comment!!
Shaq be talking out of both sides of his mouth 😂😂😂
Respect brother. Don't talk bout you doubt and don't know
When shaq played with a young lebron he said lebron could've been coaching the team better than the actual coach
Well LeBron let that get to his head now he even became a gm.
@@ALIBIGPP69 💀 and look at him making a team that can’t event make the playin
Yup and made 8 straight finals without a HoF worthy coach. That’s crazy.
@@ALIBIGPP69 he was talking about on the court, guess your slow tho
And they didn't win
R.I.P KOBE the legend bro☝🏾😔
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@@bruceweyn1156bro what
Basically: He’s far, but he close.
If he wins one more or two more finals IN LA he will gain that status trust
Kinda like when Tom Brady when to Tampa Bay we all kinda need to shut up if Bron even wins one more ring …
@@money2013 we shut up about anyone else after ring 5 lmfao
@@money2013He would need at least 6, and even then, it would still be debatable.
@@MidniteSonterrible take
No one else THRILLS the way Michael Jordan did. He was thrilling to watch. My husband and I never watched sports. Together 44 years. But we couldn't wait to see the Jordan clips on the news if the game wasn't on tv. And we live in NY!
I thought you watch him live on Court
Nostalgia
Rest In Peace Kobe and Gigi and the 9 others❤🕊 may God blessed them familys
families* not familys
@@Ryan-qq9qe i'am from the Netherlandd
rip
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@@Ryan-qq9qe way to ruin the moment
It's not just about numbers. it's about effectiveness vs time in the league
Effectiveness are percentages which are..... numbers. Time is a number also. It's always about the numbers
True, I never understood people who care about career totals in this debate. Of all possible factors you could consider, career totals is literally at the bottom of my list. It's an effectiveness + longevity measure.
@@m74d3 I know Lebron is a great player but…the GOAT??? Too late. We can talk about MJ without mention nobody else but about Lebron🤔? Always will be a shadow named MJ💪🏻
@@m74d3 efficiency is a great measure of how good a player is. LeBron is a better all around scorer than mj how does that not make him better
@@kyleerway5685 You must be smoking that good good if u think Lebron is a better scorer than MJ
Thanks Shaq, too many ppl just forget about Kobe and just how great he was!
Telling people for years!!!! Mike always had good ass teammates to play with!!
@@skinnerfamily2015 not always, the bulls were awful when MJ got drafted lol And stayed that way for years till they drafted Pip and Grant. Then with again with the Wizards lol But Mike always got the best outta his teammates just like Kobe. Doesn't matter who's wearing the jersey next to em they gonna give you all they got and then some. But MJ played on some pretty bad teams and still carried them into the playoffs. Almost beat the mighty celtics in one game where MJ set the record for most points in a playoff game. Watched it like 20 times 😆 Kobe and MJ will do whatever it takes for their teams to win.
No one forgot
@@crisis1567 bull shit tons of ppl be telling me on youtube that Kobe overrated and stupid ass shit like that 😆
Kobe will always be one the greats closest to mj's greatness!
Kobe was the closet thing to MJ ever. He was a very special talent🥺
LeBron is greater than Kobe.
Also, I believe Mj is the GOAT, but what’a YOUR reason why is MJ the GOAT over LeBron.
@@legendarywiimaster why the f you brought up Lebron's name here? We are talking about the closest thing to mJ and bron ain't even a quarter of that in terms of playstyle and winning mindset
@@emmanueledano5194 and LeBron is the closest thing to MJ in terms of talent but the haters too blind to his greatness
I am pretty sure what he meant was that Kobe is super similar to Mike and Lebron not
Definitely, Kobe is the goat in missing shots
RIP Kobe Bryant and Gianna Bryant
Keep sayin' it shaq. . never get tired of hearing it. . .
Lebron the G.O.T.E. Greatest Of This Era while Michael is the Greatest Of All Time (G.O.A.T.)
No he’s not🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😭, mj is the greatest of his era, and lebron is the goat
Lebron def the greatest of all time no one has done what he’s done statistically and also he broke all horse records at 32 I believe so yea
@@deandrerichard7702 🧢🧢🤣💀
@@stippy555 nigga u can say it’s cap but it’s on papers u can literally look it up
@@deandrerichard7702 stay mad it's not about papers, you bum
Shaq is smoking something lol 😂
Bro shaq be switching up his takes like Javale McGee switches up teams
Except Javale switching teams cause he got good takes.
Rest in peace legend named Kobe Bryant.
James may have passed Jabbar as the NBA's all time scoring leader, but he'll never pass MJ as the G.O.A.T.
RESPECT!!
Who the greatest is in any sport will always be a difficult discussion to have, primarily because different people prioritize different sets of criteria towards the evaluation process.
He is right I was thinking abt it yesterday he’s gonna pas him up but I love how shaq still respects Kobe love y’all
Thank you Shaq for being understanding you one my fav players now
Greatest will be decided by the people, Dead or Alive😉
And the people say LeBron James
Im taking peak over longevity
Same
People won’t give bron the respect until he pass everyone in points and wins bout 3 more rings because 4 rings in 20 years 🤦♂️ “the goat” debate about bron shouldn’t even be in discussion 💯Bron Needs a 3 Peat then we can talk 💯👇
Personal opinion: curry could pass everyone in points if he put in the amount of time bron has🗣curry got 4 rings and beat BRON 3/4 of them rings in the finals. So yea 4 rings already while it took bron 20 year and hopping franchises 💯
(Edit: thanks for the likes.)
Even then the GOAT debate is so opinionated. It’s all about narratives surrounding LeBron and MJ. Bron is hated, MJ is idolised as the perfect basketball player. Lebron could have 100 rings but some one will say but hes 100-10 in the finals
@@EkoJah ok that last part is a stretch 100-10 is better then anyone else
He already did that and no one respects him 😹😹
@@EkoJah that’s not the argument he needed to switch teams to win while mj and kobe stayed loyal and won them rings building teams from the ground the bulls where the worse organization
@@EkoJah why do u think lebron wears 23
Just like MJ said "it shouldn't be who is the best player of all time , but who is the best team of all time"
1996 Bulls. They never quit and played hard and had competition that could take them down. The Warriors didn’t. They barely tried and put minimal effort
STACKED
That dunk at the end though
Shaq confuses himself
How he said to him he no where near close to mike in his book as an overall player. BUT if Lebron passes Kareem in we all have to shut the hell up.
Language isn't difficult
@@williamdavenport4183 sorry 4-0 sweep equates to Loser Mentality
@robertcoburn1508 What the hellbare you on about? You probably were looking for something to comment on.
Fun fact: I'm not a LeBron fan, thats not even what was being discuss. Get off the internet and live your life.
@@williamdavenport4183 The point is Kobe Bryant dropped 81 and he is The Goat, got 5 rings and a cold blooded Assassin Mentality. Lebron passes so much to his own detriment. Honestly the sweep ties in like this and the Nuggets were up 21 in Game 1 and Lebron had a chance to tie the game and possibly win it in OVERTIME, he didnt do it he BRICKED THE GAME TYING 3, LEBRON TRIED TO GET TOO CUTE BY DUNKING AND MISSED THE DUNK, LEBRON CHUCKED UP 3 AFTER 3 AFTER 3 TO LITERALLY SHOOT US OUT OF THE GAME AND THEN DOWN 0-3 WE ARE UP 73-58 AT HALFTIME JUST TO LOSE IN GAME 4 AND GET THE BALL RIPPED FROM.HIS HANDS BY JAMAL Murray Very Unclutch! Kobe never got punked like that
@robertcoburn1508 Ain't reading that shit. 🤡🤡🤡
Shaq: “he got 4 rings, already pass up Kobe”
Meanwhile Kobe: has 5 rings
Kobe only got 2 rings as a #1 option tho
in points
@@AlphaDesperateForFunds lebron got 6 losses as the #1 option whats your point
@@melgoat 6 losses in the finals as a no.1 is infact better than being knocked out 1st or 2nd round as a no.1
@@melgoat so? Lmfao Kobe would have 2 rings and 3 finals appearances if it wasn’t for Shaq
You are true genuine person And I admire you for that
Shaq said once he pass up kareem we all need to STFU so…………………………
If Mike played 30 years he have million points
Exactly
If he didn't get pippen he wins 0 rings ever.
@MrBarborosa I didn't know basketball is tennis so funny you say that about Jordan playing a team sport, so basically you are saying lebron won is 4 rings all by himself
@@MrBarborosalike saying if lebron didn’t have Bosh or wade he would have none of his Miami rings
🎉😂😂😂😂😂
Well it still doesn’t make him better technically because he’s “stat padding” plus he’s almost at 20 seasons!🎬✅
Kareem was at 22 I believe? Kobe played 20 years
Longevity 😂 nobody who had long careers are good through their whole career except lebron🤦🏽♂️
He has longevity but, he has sustained it so long it's become a feat of excellence
Who’s here after he passed Kareem…
Shaq&Kobe arguably the greatest duo in NBA history!!!
He’s not close to MJ but scoring 2000 or so points and he’s #1? No way! He’s #2
To me it's not about the greatest it's about if they go to the court and give it there all that's all that I care about
You can tell in 2018 lebron put his all everything in his soul all of his power anything you could ask in that playoff run
@@1biasedherbertfan979 he didn't do shit
Straight up. It's all just personal preference but no matter how much you love or hate somebody you can't doubt it anymore.
Man why ain’t u let the full clip roll out
Gotta at least give Larry Byrd props for being the only white guy who could ever make a list like that.
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On god
J. West? lol
@@James_Strickland5835he’s top 20 imo
Steve Nash, Pete Maravich
are worthy mentions in a Bird type conversation
umm. at the moment kareem has the most point, 6 chips, but shaq still puts mj at the top. if lj passes kareem and 4 chips, why do we gotta shut the hell up??
ain't make no damn sense, Kareem was not even the best player for 4 of those rings, Mj was the best player and best career average above wilt 30.1 ppg and better offensively and defensively on the court Mj goat
Lebron had more time and accomplished less and only has the Longevity stat, 4 rings Lebron #3
1 superteam ring and 1 Mickey Mouse ring
PUT SOME RESPEC’ ON MY NAME😤
Mj has the highest ppg of all time
No he doesn’t. Wilt Chamberlain did in the 1961-1962 season with 50.4 ppg.
@@dryiced2459 think he’s talking about career.
@@dryiced2459 thats a whole diff era lmao dont compare diff eras to each other its stupid
@@enzoromero5462 But he said “highest ppg of all time” and all time means all time
@@dryiced2459 he meant to say 'highest career PPG of all time'
1st Micheal Jordan
2nd Lebron James
3rd Kobe Bryant
4th Shaq
5th Steph curry
LeBron>>>>>MJ
Man Shaq is just saying that because he played together with Kobe and they were freinds
He played with bron to idiot 😂
They were rivals
Or because Kobe literally had the same moves in his bag as Mj and their mentality is simalar and their accolades are close
Maybe because its trie
mannnn lebron gotta start pullin up from full court consistently, win 5 more rings, get 3 more mvps, and score 200 in game to be the 🐐 to me 🤷🏻♂️😤
🤣🤣🤣 Damn that's Petty!!
@@letarivera203 I think he's being generous
@@IDK3679. Hey Don't get me wrong LBJ not even in my top 5 but damn that was a statement 🤣🤣 200 in a game hilariously petty!!
He also gotta be the all time steals, assists, rebounds and blocks leader, or he never gon be close to the goat to me😤
@@damyko Well we know that aint happening the man aint played defense in like 6 years now!! 🤣🤣🤣 And people actually tell me I'm hating on LBJ because I don't value winning enough!!🤣🤣🤣 How? He is the biggest loser in the top 10!! Almost Winning IS NOT WINNING! This is lost on these I'd rather go people! Im like Brandy out here Almost Doesn't Count!!🤣🤣🤣
In Wilts Era with no Goal tending in effect and a Center can just wait in the Rim it would be close to impossible for Jordan to shine.
You should all talked about how the NBA back then would add new rules just to Nerf the dominance of Wilt Chamberlaine.,
They had to make the game hard for him because he is a living Nightmare to all.
1) Michael Jordan
2) Kobe Bryant
3) Larry Bird/Lebron James
Can I get a hit of whatever you are smoking on? 🔥
Idk, I mean Bron passed up Kobe but think about it Kobe has done incredible things in the game of basketball just think. Even though he passed him up I say their tied.
Lebron is way better as a player
@@ericwood945 U were born when LeBron just started in the league u bet you grew up watching him but if u grew up watching Kobe that's a whole different story.
@@SXRCLANJAYDEN I was born in 1992 lol... I saw Kobe play... he lost them the 2004 finals... shot them straight out of the games... I saw his bad and good games Kobe is the king of shooting bricks he only has one season MVP and 2 Finals MVP
@@SXRCLANJAYDEN in what way is Kobe better than Lebron?
MJ, Lebron, Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Hakeem, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, all better than Kobe
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Mike would have the points record if he didn't retire.
This aged well
Whoever he be passing at for me he still can't be the G.O.A.T!😎
There will never be another MJ. The Game was different back then. If any team tried to play defense like they did in the 80’s-90’s to maybe even the 2000’s, the whole team would foul out
Bron is the best playmaker of all time
Bron is the most consistent player of all time
Bron is the best all around player and teammate of all time
Bron has made the biggest impact on mediocre teams, making them finals contenders
Bron went to 8 finals in a row on different teams… that’s dominance
But when we say “greatest” we got a problem now
BS
Thanks you
@Espo78 who is better my guy
Magic is the best playmaker of all time at his peak. And MJ still GOAT
Magic is the best playermaker of all-time. KAJ, Moses, K.Malone all have a argument for most consistent. Jordan is more complete than LeBron. 00s East had multiple mediocre teams make the Finals, that more about the conference than LeBron. 8 Finals in a row is impressive. Best player LeBron faced out East from 11-18?
LeBron isn't better than Jordan. Coaches, gms, media/polls, player past and present have Jordan>LeBron
Rest in Peace 😔
He passed 🥇
Its simple Michael had the greatest peak... And it wasent 5byears were talking 14 years of being hamds down the best in the league. No debate.... LeBron has more years of dominance and had a more well rounded game.... And played better teams... However that Dallas loss put LeBron behind him. Dallas was hot that year but so was the Jazz Suns and Supersonics when Michael played them.
Bruh,6 MVPS NBA,4 MVPs finals,6 championship, points,top 5 blocks,top 10 rebounds
Who the hell are you talking about
Really you don't know time why he just the goat
@@Jamal-sr9nn idk who you’re talking about, cuz LeBron has 4 MVPs, Jordan has 6 FMVPs, and Kareem has 2 FMVPs, so which “goat” are you talking about? Cuz the stats you listed are stats that no NBA player has
@@user-pp6pp1nu5s 6 MVPS NBA,2fmvp,6 championship top 5 blocks top 10 rebounds,Cap
@@Jamal-sr9nn so Kareem?
Jordan obviously the goat💯 if Kareem not getting compared in the debate , it’s a fake conversation
Say you’re biased without saying you’re biased
MJ Always!!!!!!!
bro yes. the debate shouldn’t be between mj and lebron but mj and kobe are the top 2 players to ever play the game
Casual
Kobe's not even top 5.
@@raiden8991I agree but Kobe is top 2 in best player of all time
Y’all are to fixated on the goat and not the best.
@@jordanren2949 he doesn't rank that high and he doesn't even have a lot of accolades compared to MJ and Bron.
Even tho mike missed 2 seasons
I 100% agree with this
Ngl my view is if lebron did what he’s done before mj did what he did people would make lebrons the goat
Exactly like people can't accept that there is a new GOAT
@@JBdoesball
Lol he isn't even close
@@efisgpr yeah sure bud
I can see lebron and mj being interchangeable but if your trying to get a solid first place and second first is lebron and second is mj
@@efisgpr super close, might have even passed him
He’s the greatest player for his era Michael was the greatest for his is he the greatest of all time no does he dominate in certain aspects yes but so did Michael at the end of the day both were amazingly great players
I agree my brother so true he has much more respect if he get them rings
Glad I'm not the only one to hear that contradiction
They should make a documentary movie on lebron's life. Bro came from nothing to being the greatest of all time.
Mj is better than lebron
@@jesseysmith5233 facts
@Jessey Smith lebron literly had like a 40 percent win rate in the finals and Jordan has a 100 and more rings
@@JabronyPlays and what did mj do without pippen 😂 nothing lebron was taking bums to the finals
@yzzzl 2334 yeah Dyane wade and Chris bosch are bums.
Difference between Jordan/Kobe & LeGoat is Jordan/Kobe played for their own Legacy and were only worried about their own game and improving themselves, Legoated improves himself and his game as well BUT he doesn’t play for himself, he’s the type of player to play and act as a manager, his game is easy to play with because he uses all his teammates to make plays and win the game and not only does he do this but he also makes everyone around him play at their best game. Every team he was on after/around 2010 he’s made everyone on the team better and hes aware of their strengths and makes plays to highlight them. This makes him better to play with but it also makes others not view his game or him to the level of Jordan or Kobe because he doesn’t worry about himself, he’s playing for the win- the bigger picture is the team with LeGoat and Kobe/Jordan’s game was more so “what can I do” and that’s why they were harder to play with on the team but it also highlights their own game which makes for a better *player* as an individual vs a good player which makes the *team* better
First of all, MJ made everyone better. Secondly, Kobe was supposedly the same as Penny, yet Shaq only 3-peated with Kob. Also, Pau Gasol was 0-12 in the playoffs before Kobe. Meaning he got swept first round 3 times. First year with Kobe they go to the Finals. Kobe also heightened Kawhi, Kyrie, Tatum, and many other's game and they weren't even team mates. Thirdly, Westbrook definitely looked worse with Lebron.
I respect Bron. But he didn't magically elevate everyone while Kobe and MJ just won by fixating on their jumper.
Yeah LeBron proved he makes everyone better after the 2022 season 😂
Deep throat it bro take it all
FUCKIN RIGHT HANDS DOWN RIP KOBE
Humble
He won’t get respect unless he wins about 25 rings. Everyone feels the need to hate LeGoat for no good reason (except maybe ditching Cleveland, but even then, he went back and got then a ring)
Pretty much everybody gives uneeded have to lebron. Like people say if lebron played in 90’s he would just flop, the game of basketball is about adjusting to competition so he would adjust and not flop for example
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“Shaq don’t have an opinion. Shaq has every opinion. Shaq gonna tell you all the opinions in a row. Shaq gonna keep talking. Shaq lonely.” - Shaq, interior monologue (probably)
I never really understand the best basketball player because they all have different roles and positions.
Shaq too real!!! And he funny as hell 😂😂
Let’s rings are about talent and lack. Good GMs, coaching, etc… Jordan is the greatest. But Jerry Krause kept taking risks. Looking unique players. Not just pippen. But Grant. Meaning the first 3 peat they had one of the most athletic teams in the league. Krause wanted a big man shooter. He first tried with Brad Sellers and got lucky with Toni. Picked up Rodman in the second repeat.
If lemickey passes Kareem in points then he’s the goat
Dude top 1 scorer and top 3 in assist hard to argue against that
@@soulzy3596 it was a joke mb
@@SJ-pg2fe confused me ahah , joke as In lebron isn’t the goat or the LeMickey part
King 🐐 James!
@@soulzy3596 MJ 6 rings one of the few guards to get a Defensive player of the year award MJ definitely has a case for the GOAT
He's just saying you can argue but who are you to argue lol
Its like a pro player vs a grinder if u get it
“I don’t compare anyone to mike” “Kobe is the closest thing to mike”
He said if he did have to he is the closest
@MIGGYꪜ you can’t be serious, size? Play style? Score first mentality? LeBron is not the closest to MJ, It’s Kobe, MJ himself said he steals all his moves, LeBron doesn’t play anything like MJ
@@goons4700 but he didn’t have to
Kobe does not belong in the same conversation as lebron and michael, hes a legend, but he is only 90% of michael
Exactly. Kobe ain’t even top 5
It’s not about points , the sport is an art and the way Kobe and Mike paint their pics was flawless
Ok I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused.
I’ve seen this like 3 times today .. you CZcamsrs gotta start be more original.. there’s a whole world of content.. you don’t have to repost😂 we don’t need the same video being posted a billion tiomes
He aint passed mike n sht. Fk points. Dawg dont defend. Kobe defended. Mike defended. If mike or kobe wanted points they wouldve got it. They focused on wins and wins abundantly. Gaf who u is, aint nobody passed MJ. I saw old azz mj cant get 55 no more but you know what he was doing on dem bum azz wizards? Defending, hustling til he couldnt do it no mo. He wasnt out there for points. All dem points and less chips how d fk u do dat?!
Michael didn't average more at any stat than lebron at this age
your a prisoner of the moment. lebron does defend but doesn’t give it his all,as of right now, ( because of old age) but if you go back before he was as old as the dinosaurs he actually did defend and was very good at it. Btw he still can defend and will when he needs to. As soon as it hits playoffs he in a new mode .
How can a guy nearly 40 years old not play defense? Wow....maybe his lateral quickness has just deteriorated? Who would have thought?
Lebron in his prime was a better defender than Kobe or Jordan. Stop it. He just has to do to much so he can’t go balls to the ball on both ends of the floor. He finished second in DPOY voting 3 years in a row and everyone knows he was robbed when Gasol won it over him. He’s a 6 time all nba defender. Maybe the best shot blocking non big ever in his prime
just stop it. your clearly being fed misinformation by the media telling you he doesn't play defense because they feed you two clips of him not playing defense throughout his 19 year career and you think he doesn't play d. he don't defend? do you even watch basketball? he has 6 all defense and was a runner up for dpoy 3 times (was robbed of one) and that's not even just that. lebron is a great team defender as he can guard any position because of his size and strength and athletecism. on any mismatch it wouldn't even be a mismatch for Bron. he is an insane interior defender. in the playoffs lebron is a very serious defender and puts in his all. you just sound like someone who got brainwashed by the media
Good review, man. I only want to use it for shaving…. I can’t make up mind between pro 9 and the non pro….
2 different types of players but both great. We are the only ones that compare our great so much
we are in a foul era when air touches your skin it's a foul.
Wait what? That last sentence contradicted everything 😂
Nah i think what he meant is, that lebron had already passed up kobe and mike in points, not overall
That was the most confusing answer
Is Lebron the goat
Shaq: No
Also Shaq in the same breathe: if he pass Kareem yes.
Kareem had the scoring title and we were saying Mike was still the man , so why does it change with LeBron?
he needs this ring to become an icon
Shaq changes his mind more often than I change my underwear 😂😂
Champions surpasses everything
I think shaq just wants kobe to pass him the ball.
Mofo can't shoot for shit, Kobe ain't that stupid.