Jordan vs Lebron - The Best GOAT Comparison

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  • čas přidán 19. 04. 2020
  • Jordan vs. Lebron. In this video, we tackle the NBA Goat Debate to determine -- once and for all -- who is basketball's Greatest
    00:00 - Opening Montage
    01:20 - Introduction
    03:28 - Accomplishments
    04:24 - Longevity
    05:27 - Winning
    11:17 - Statistics
    17:18 - The "Eye Test"
    28:46 - Mount Rushmore
    30:33 - Closing Montage
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  • @DANGERProductions2020
    @DANGERProductions2020  Před 4 lety +3038

    Who do you think the GOAT is? Jordan, Lebron, or someone else?

  • @timmyturnt
    @timmyturnt Před 3 lety +4759

    “LeBron was universally respected, Jordan was universally feared.”
    - Stephen A Smith

    • @Abbad1579
      @Abbad1579 Před 3 lety +52

      Fax.

    • @persieclines1746
      @persieclines1746 Před 3 lety +92

      "People say dumb shit like Mike is better than LeBron ".
      - Persie Clines

    • @scottyk1763
      @scottyk1763 Před 3 lety +220

      @@persieclines1746 now son if you keep failing these tests for basic math how are you suppose to argue with people online late at night. Get yo ass to bed

    • @Abbad1579
      @Abbad1579 Před 3 lety +212

      @@persieclines1746 Because Mike was better,

    • @persieclines1746
      @persieclines1746 Před 3 lety +7

      @@scottyk1763 2k isn't reality. I know you believe it is.

  • @symbian74
    @symbian74 Před 4 lety +3859

    Lebron : I have the most points in Game Seven in Finals history.
    Jordan : What's a game 7?
    LOL

    • @ayporos6049
      @ayporos6049 Před 4 lety +158

      Savage!

    • @davidwilliams316
      @davidwilliams316 Před 4 lety +21

      @Gurmanav Singh no team was good enough

    • @davidwilliams316
      @davidwilliams316 Před 4 lety +29

      Jordan played 3 game 7s and choked one. he always had great teammates but had problems in the east before it got weak.

    • @davidwilliams316
      @davidwilliams316 Před 4 lety +4

      lebron has the most points in game 7 in every round

    • @jorgecardenas4342
      @jorgecardenas4342 Před 4 lety +88

      bob brown Lebron said i have the most points in an nba game 7 FINAL in history. Jordan has never been in a game 7. Lebron doesn’t have the killer insect like Jordan

  • @thesenate5913
    @thesenate5913 Před 11 měsíci +570

    You know you’re the GOAT when the opposing team’s strategy is to “not piss Jordan off”

    • @DesroQc
      @DesroQc Před 11 měsíci +32

      Hahaha I remember a player saying that this is how he approached playing against MJ. You just kill him with kindness and you don't give him any reason to take sh*t personal 😂

    • @adamm2787
      @adamm2787 Před 10 měsíci +47

      Right...Lebrons Cavs got swept in the finals and the Spurs strategy was "Let Lebron shoot."

    • @thesenate5913
      @thesenate5913 Před 10 měsíci

      @@adamm2787 tells alot how shit lebron is at shooting

    • @MistahUnknown
      @MistahUnknown Před 8 měsíci

      @@adamm2787 Who said it was their strategy?

    • @auc2.0
      @auc2.0 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@MistahUnknownCasual that was their strategy.

  • @petery5150
    @petery5150 Před 10 měsíci +349

    Let's also consider that Jordan was allowed 2 steps after picking up his dribble, and Lebron gets 4...

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine Před 9 měsíci +30

      And plays in a league where you can’t touch anyone. 65% of MJ’s career was during a time you could body check someone and not even a get a flagrant foul. MJ had every single tool. Jordan has more amazing highlights just during random games no one remembers like 2.3.90 against the Spurs and Robinson.

    • @yosnags8447
      @yosnags8447 Před 9 měsíci +3

      shit tim donaghy would beg to differ quote “I was in Philadelphia and I am refereeing Sixers-Bulls. They were cracking down on the spin move that they wanted the officials to call traveling. Michael Jordan makes the spin move, I make the call. Phil Jackson comes off the bench and he starts giving me sh*t. I say, 'wait a second, Phil. You know as well as I do that's the spin move they're telling us to call.' And he said, 'while they might want that play called, they certainly don't want it called on him', and he pointed at Jordan who just walked by and stared at me. I got in the locker room, the other referee said, 'they want that call but don't want to on him.”

    • @Somethingwittyxs4ku
      @Somethingwittyxs4ku Před 9 měsíci +13

      @@yosnags8447Ummm… I was a teenager in the 90’s and I’m incredibly bored watching basketball now. However, I can say this irrefutable statement: BOTH MJ and LBJ get calls in favour of them. I wouldn’t be harping on that point as I see LBJ get all calls his way. You know he ISN’T getting a normal call his way when he’s screaming at a ref throwing a HUGE princess fit.

    • @grillbuster1519
      @grillbuster1519 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Are you kidding? MJ invented the legal travel. and had weak guards facing him in big games - mostly 1v1 with no zone defense. Ex, Danny Ainge, Dan Majerle, Craig Ehlo, Scott skiles, 175lb Kevin Johnson, etc. Dumars was ok, but the size of Steph curry and MJ lost to him lost of the time.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@grillbuster1519 He had two step travels on breakaway dunks. They get about four steps today. There were lots of good defense guard, but even if you claim they weren’t, at least people played hard defense then and you had to be willing to get physically punished if you want to drive to the hole often.

  • @user-dy9yy4il9h
    @user-dy9yy4il9h Před 4 lety +7734

    My man you just destroyed a debate that wasn't even supposed to exist

    • @naveenreddyadmala3669
      @naveenreddyadmala3669 Před 4 lety +104

      Lebron da goat...... he's more athletic

    • @wakemeupnow4496
      @wakemeupnow4496 Před 4 lety +670

      Lebron ain’t even better than Kobe. Shoulda done a Lebron vs Kobe

    • @glendaledavemunoz8181
      @glendaledavemunoz8181 Před 4 lety +31

      Lebron👑🦁

    • @johnweak628
      @johnweak628 Před 4 lety +567

      @@naveenreddyadmala3669 Dude if we assume that Lebron is more athletic, that would make MJ even better than him because MJ has accomplished a lot despite being less athletic.

    • @mattbrown6392
      @mattbrown6392 Před 4 lety +25

      Jordan may very well be the goat/better player. I am a person who is really neutral on that topic. I would say that just because Jordan’s opponents in the finals won a lot of regular season games doesn’t make them just as competitive as the teams Lebron’s teams lost to. I feel like no team could ever beat the warriors teams with KD on them. Period. They are the goat juggernauts and they are weak for teaming up like that but no team is touching them in any era. So if the bulls would have had a chance to beat them and did, I would feel this way about Jordan, but I know they’d get punished like Everyone else who’d try to take on the 2 best shooters ever and the best 7 footer-ish ever in KD. And yes, he may be 6’11” but he is not 6’9” lol.

  • @ankitkumar-qe4zh
    @ankitkumar-qe4zh Před 3 lety +3443

    Do Americans know that MJ is more popular than the basketball game itself. I'm from india and basketball is non existing here but Everyone remembers MJ as one of the greatest athletes of all time and THE GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYER OF ALL TIME.

    • @Eotty30
      @Eotty30 Před 3 lety +221

      @@beepthestrongestwarrior8746 evil

    • @beepthestrongestwarrior8746
      @beepthestrongestwarrior8746 Před 3 lety +30

      @@Eotty30 The hardest choices require the strongest wills

    • @allanhouston6759
      @allanhouston6759 Před 3 lety +90

      *All-Nba Player.*
      LBJ"s era ( 2003/2018 ):
      *East- 58.*
      *West- 147.*
      Lebron James feasted in the weak East. Let"s not forget that Joakim Noah was the last first team All-Nba Player ( 2014 ) besides Lebron James before Giannis ( 2019 ).

    • @lebaldjames400
      @lebaldjames400 Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/channels/I2v08LA1UfV7YYdXrfCNOA.html

    • @persieclines1746
      @persieclines1746 Před 3 lety +152

      @@beepthestrongestwarrior8746 It's nice you took time away from relations with your sister to drop a racist joke. I'll let you get back to selling your kids Xbox for oxy.

  • @AndenSeefahrer
    @AndenSeefahrer Před 29 dny +17

    Michael Jordan loved winning.
    Kobe Bryant loved Basketball.
    LeBron loves himself.

  • @JamesWilson-er6mr
    @JamesWilson-er6mr Před 11 měsíci +105

    I never understood how the mj and lebron convo ever even got started in the first place

    • @TooCompy
      @TooCompy Před 11 měsíci +24

      The media meatriding

    • @royhobbs3214
      @royhobbs3214 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Nick Wright started it after LeBron lost to Golden State in 2017

    • @elisampley7598
      @elisampley7598 Před 7 měsíci +13

      NIKE and the NBA need to always have a current goat to sell merchandise and products.

    • @shaynailer6555
      @shaynailer6555 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Lebron started it when he claimed with a straight face that this win makes me the best of all time lol check out the other stars in the room when he says it Bahahaha
      Only thing more laughable is his sprite add
      Love you Lebron but stay in your lane you’re heads to big I can’t see the screen

    • @ruffdhalez
      @ruffdhalez Před 4 měsíci

      @@elisampley7598 well said.

  • @x32gx
    @x32gx Před 3 lety +2447

    In contrast to Lebron, I never heard MJ, not even once, during his entire career ever, say he was the greatest. It was the whole world that said that.

    • @unclecraig8790
      @unclecraig8790 Před 3 lety +65

      Berus Craig u didn’t even watch the video if u think that

    • @neutralgirl8997
      @neutralgirl8997 Před 3 lety +124

      He may not have said it directly & publicly. But MJ implied that he was the GOAT on several occasions.

    • @MPMCFC
      @MPMCFC Před 3 lety +176

      “When you’re good, you tell everyone
      When you’re great, everyone tells you”
      -Walter Payton

    • @illenessOne
      @illenessOne Před 3 lety +57

      The world gave him his title, not him bluntly say it.

    • @OK-ce8cn
      @OK-ce8cn Před 3 lety +39

      Berus Craig lmao the jordan rules were meant to stop mj. And if u think about it have they ever made rules to stop LeBron🤔

  • @daringhumor5935
    @daringhumor5935 Před 3 lety +832

    Who’s better?
    Like: Jordan
    Comment: LeBron

  • @CaptTsubasa09
    @CaptTsubasa09 Před 11 měsíci +169

    It was an honour to be able to watch MJ all those years ago. No doubt the GOAT. The best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be.

    • @georgeanthony7282
      @georgeanthony7282 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Maybe there will be someone who will come close someday... but by today's playing standards, the fact that playing actual defense in the league is almost non existent, I truly doubt it!

    • @thelovepodcastnetwork4375
      @thelovepodcastnetwork4375 Před 8 měsíci

      😂the best that ever will be ,😂stop it, he's the best now yes😂

    • @TryuulDown-gp9dv
      @TryuulDown-gp9dv Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yes, ever will be. The game has de-evolved to the point that no one will have the opportunity to be better. And even if they did, MJ is such an anomaly, you’d need millions of years of NBA to see another, so it’ll never happen again.

    • @g7investments432
      @g7investments432 Před 6 měsíci

      He was the Brett Hart of the NBA

    • @bowenhammack6155
      @bowenhammack6155 Před 5 měsíci

      What was Jordan “the goats” playoff record without pippen btw?

  • @imogendedo8296
    @imogendedo8296 Před 11 měsíci +66

    I just found this vid. The way that you broke this down is great. You explained complex analytics in a way that a 5 year old could understand, your arguments were rock solid and most importantly, you were fair.

    • @markokuhar670
      @markokuhar670 Před 2 měsíci

      Idk why ESPN can’t hire guys like him😂

    • @sabin97
      @sabin97 Před měsícem +3

      @@markokuhar670
      because factually correct information and mathematical analysis doesnt sell.
      sensationalism and misinformation sell.
      espn isnt in it for the sports.
      they are in it for the profits.

    • @markokuhar670
      @markokuhar670 Před měsícem

      @@sabin97 and honestly that’s why I stopped watching ESPN and why I’ve been just watching independent sports channels on CZcams and podcasts. Content is way more enjoyable

    • @sabin97
      @sabin97 Před měsícem +1

      @@markokuhar670
      yeah, capitalism tends to ruin everything.

    • @rafaelisslaam1894
      @rafaelisslaam1894 Před 9 dny +1

      @@sabin97that’s factual, they intentionally say controversial things to get ratings and comments

  • @andyprezeau4876
    @andyprezeau4876 Před 3 lety +1670

    This video needs to be aired on ESPN

    • @gasparaangeles7411
      @gasparaangeles7411 Před 3 lety +34

      Yes please. Hope Stephen A got hold of this.

    • @salvadorrentas567
      @salvadorrentas567 Před 3 lety +35

      Never a doubt in my mind. MJ has always been the GOAT.

    • @chazelcamillenapiza-bellez4163
      @chazelcamillenapiza-bellez4163 Před 3 lety +65

      This needs to be aired on ESPN with Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe as presentors

    • @basha8836
      @basha8836 Před 3 lety +6

      @@chazelcamillenapiza-bellez4163 I wonder who's gonna be the special guest? Skip Bayless? Paul Pierce? Kendrick Perkins? Ryan Hollins?

    • @keathwilliams2855
      @keathwilliams2855 Před 3 lety +5

      Amen

  • @melev23
    @melev23 Před 3 lety +3423

    Scouting report on LBJ: make him go left. Send him to free throw line. Give him midrange jumpers.
    Scouting report on MJ: don’t piss him off

    • @remmah192
      @remmah192 Před 3 lety +191

      Boy isn’t that the truth!

    • @samsoordost1466
      @samsoordost1466 Před 3 lety +85

      That is great!!!!

    • @caircn5747
      @caircn5747 Před 3 lety +27

      when it comes to layups LeBron is left hand dominant you dumb ass. literally the best driver in nba history. scouting report on MJ is you don't have anything to fear unless he's getting carried by scotty pippen

    • @remmah192
      @remmah192 Před 3 lety +196

      @@caircn5747 you clearly didn’t watch the video,,

    • @AK-sc9ln
      @AK-sc9ln Před 3 lety +46

      Force MJ to shoot a 3!

  • @Mwchael
    @Mwchael Před 9 měsíci +29

    bro dropped a masterpiece then dipped

  • @elisampley7598
    @elisampley7598 Před 10 měsíci +122

    MJ for 3 reasons
    1. Killer instinct and highly competitive
    2. Tough and unshakeable
    3. Small feet for quickness at 6'6 and hands of a 7'8 center. Jordan could do things with those big hands players of a similar size like Kobe and LBJ could never do.
    MJ was a once in a 100 year athlete just like Wilt was for his position.

    • @user-cn8nu6lq4w
      @user-cn8nu6lq4w Před 6 měsíci +4

      lol what? Foot size doesn't really affect speed.

    • @elisampley7598
      @elisampley7598 Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@user-cn8nu6lq4w not speed, agility. And yes it does matter when it comes to agility. It gave Jordan a very quick first step.

    • @user-cn8nu6lq4w
      @user-cn8nu6lq4w Před 6 měsíci

      That isn't a thing. A high ratio of fast-twitch muscle, good limb ratios and lower body strength gave Jordan a quick first step... and quick everything else. @@elisampley7598

    • @bowenhammack6155
      @bowenhammack6155 Před 5 měsíci +4

      What was Jordan’s playoff record without pippen again?

    • @elisampley7598
      @elisampley7598 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@bowenhammack6155 lmao look at his career average stats. Dwayne Wade was a far better player, hell even Bosh was and I don't see the HEAT with LBJ getting a 3 peat

  • @alexobed3184
    @alexobed3184 Před 3 lety +781

    "So what's the greater achievement: beating the juggernaut--or being the juggernaut?"
    Damn, this question is just so good.

    • @thegoat1262
      @thegoat1262 Před 3 lety +12

      @Inigo Bantok he was playing passive in 2011 and they were using a zone scheme stoping the drive from lebron with dpoy Tyson Chandler and in 2014 d wade was washed from his former self I would hardly call it a juggernaut he was damn near by himself out there

    • @thefirstechlon5522
      @thefirstechlon5522 Před 3 lety +2

      Inigo Bantok kawhi said it was his turn in 2014

    • @derrickchambers3271
      @derrickchambers3271 Před 3 lety +47

      This was an amazing point illustrated. Being the juggernaut again, again, again, and again, again, and again! DOMINANCE.

    • @NoMoreLPCPP-NPA
      @NoMoreLPCPP-NPA Před 3 lety +10

      @@thegoat1262 that just proves the point of the video. Lebron cant shoot outside of 0-3 FT.

    • @stormeditz3920
      @stormeditz3920 Před 3 lety +11

      honestly it’s beating the juggernaut, if you are the juggernaut, you have a good team around u

  • @georgewrld1174
    @georgewrld1174 Před 3 lety +951

    “A true king never crowns himself” -George R.R Martin. Lebron said he’s the goat,
    Jordan let the others say he’s the goat

    • @salomoney23
      @salomoney23 Před 3 lety +19

      Thx 😊 answering to the one’s that like LeFlopper James. I just like MJ, Kobe.

    • @crosswiz6
      @crosswiz6 Před 3 lety +17

      @IkImTheBest He said he felt like that made him the goat..same shit as saying I'm the goat just worded differently come man stop nitpicking

    • @crosswiz6
      @crosswiz6 Před 3 lety +11

      @IkImTheBest So ur gonna sit there and tell me Lebron doesn't think he's the goat? 😂 come on..

    • @doyskiesensei6358
      @doyskiesensei6358 Před 3 lety

      I die in this comment😄.....

    • @basedbear1605
      @basedbear1605 Před 3 lety

      @@crosswiz6 You don't listen.

  • @newempirenetworks4912
    @newempirenetworks4912 Před 11 měsíci +22

    This video was amazing. Gave me chills, at the end I even teared up a little. Great Job!!!!🎉🎉🎉

  • @stevelo2057
    @stevelo2057 Před 9 měsíci +18

    From what i googled 1994-95 Chicago Bulls season
    The Bulls struggled in the first half of the season with a 23-25 record at the All-Star break.
    Jordan faxed a memo that simply said "I'm back." Then The Bulls won 24 of their final 34 games, and finished the season with a 47-35 record, going 13-4 with Jordan back in the lineup.
    Note: This was the Jordan has been swing baseball bats for 12+ months, not playing basketball.

    • @seymourbutts5277
      @seymourbutts5277 Před 6 měsíci +4

      it was wild man. but he wasn't in basketball shape to take them all the way. then they 3-peated again lol

  • @klolo73
    @klolo73 Před 3 lety +605

    I gotta admit, I thought it was close, not after watching this, I'm sold, MJ is the GOAT.

    • @ethanschmidt1052
      @ethanschmidt1052 Před 3 lety +23

      this guy is biased

    • @bossbaby69
      @bossbaby69 Před 3 lety +144

      @@ethanschmidt1052 not really. All of his points were facts using numbers and stats for context. He made a great argument for both players

    • @Rgnotown
      @Rgnotown Před 3 lety +70

      @@ethanschmidt1052 facts are facts

    • @flexinja1166
      @flexinja1166 Před 3 lety +64

      @@ethanschmidt1052 Blind Bronsexual spotted.

    • @philx1169
      @philx1169 Před 3 lety +48

      @@ethanschmidt1052 facts are facts bruh

  • @alfredodooley6229
    @alfredodooley6229 Před 3 lety +1217

    I have had the privilege of seeing both players entire careers, Lebron’s to this point, and while I think they both are great... Jordan is literally the best player I’ve ever seen to this day...

    • @yalmirarodriguez712
      @yalmirarodriguez712 Před 3 lety +87

      Seriously...there is no comparison....MJ vs crybaby

    • @br2147
      @br2147 Před 3 lety +14

      @@yalmirarodriguez712 facts

    • @itsactuallytony5699
      @itsactuallytony5699 Před 3 lety +26

      You are so lucky

    • @jmmondragon9825
      @jmmondragon9825 Před 3 lety +8

      Agree

    • @alfredodooley6229
      @alfredodooley6229 Před 3 lety +14

      @@itsactuallytony5699 I feel privileged. Between those two and Kobe, I have seen some amazing players in their prime. Jordan, Lebron, and Kobe.

  • @Exia09
    @Exia09 Před 11 měsíci +27

    This is one of the most comprehensive videos I've ever seen on the Goat debate. I think one thing we can add to the eye test element is also how, just like at the end of the video, you see some of MJs circus shots, the outrageousness, the sheer poetry and elegance with which he plays. He's an artist and a killer rolled into one. Lebron's highlights are impressive too but they just don't have that wow factor that takes your breath away no matter how many times you watch it.
    As for the longevity factor, it should be more about peak. Whose peak was higher.. Jordan accomplished more in a shorter period. If longevity is about who sustained his peak, then Lebron by right should have 10 championships. The fact he lasted at a high level longer than Jordan but probably only scratched the surface of MJs peak... That simply means MJ's peak was brighter higher stronger. That alone tells u something.
    There is just no comparison. But here in this day and age people want their new basketball God and the most convenient guy and the guy who's always selling himself with his army of Nick Wrights and Shannon Sharpes... is that guy. And if you don't think Bron's the Goat, if you think he's number 2 behind MJ, wch is still high compliment but to his legions of rabid fans is unacceptable, then you're a hater. 💁🏻‍♂️

    • @seymourbutts5277
      @seymourbutts5277 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Adding to the Eye Test, try watching Lebron play today. Don't follow the ball, just watch him. It's astonishing how bad he is and the media still tries to tell you how amazing he is

  • @chrisitzz
    @chrisitzz Před 11 měsíci +37

    What an incredible video! Such a well rounded, unbiased breakdown, well done!

    • @billj4525
      @billj4525 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yeah, unbiased stuff is great. I hate the nonsense insults with no real arguments.

  • @SundaySchoolPh
    @SundaySchoolPh Před 3 lety +2114

    This guy retired almost 20 years ago and keep his life private, doesn't engage personally on social media and until now we are still talking about him. Thats Greatness right there. And his shoes sold more than the current players combined.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 lety +28

      Bill was MORE private than MJ, and we were still talking about him over 40 years after he retired (he started getting more public around 2000).
      Chuck Taylor probably had more shoe sales than MJ did - but that's at least a debate.

    • @edenganael1048
      @edenganael1048 Před 3 lety +28

      @@bricefleckenstein9666 they all legends

    • @jermaincummings2679
      @jermaincummings2679 Před 3 lety +4

      So true

    • @thewave1007
      @thewave1007 Před 3 lety +10

      I'm guessing you not taking his shoes into account

    • @astingray5282
      @astingray5282 Před 3 lety +1

      @@bricefleckenstein9666 Guys LeBron never played for the bulls

  • @MikeOnTheInterwebs
    @MikeOnTheInterwebs Před 3 lety +467

    You missed a key category: the “Space Jam” category. Jordan gets the check mark again.

    • @emiliomartinez8301
      @emiliomartinez8301 Před 3 lety +18

      Le cramp is getting a Space jam movie 😔 but MJ’s Space Jan will be way better

    • @richardkiereama7072
      @richardkiereama7072 Před 3 lety

      @@yaboykronos9912 you dumbass it's meant too be a joke

    • @bryanrsingh3359
      @bryanrsingh3359 Před 3 lety

      He is the American dream. Don't hate! 😁🙏💯

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 lety +1

      Lebron is in Space Jam 2, so they both do get that mark.

    • @vincemeyers2064
      @vincemeyers2064 Před 3 lety +6

      @@bricefleckenstein9666 Yeah he wears 23 and wants to redo everything MJ did. He wants to be the next somebody not first

  • @frmrchristian8488
    @frmrchristian8488 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Superb video! Thank you for laying out all of those data. It was also very well written and edited.

  • @ppool22
    @ppool22 Před 10 měsíci

    You have to do more videos. This is the best I’ve seen. Appreciate you putting in the work for this!

  • @davidgray3945
    @davidgray3945 Před 4 lety +3187

    Arguing who is the greatest player in NBA history is such a waste of time. The argument should be who is no. 2.

    • @nickmcmurray3130
      @nickmcmurray3130 Před 4 lety +102

      I’d argue Wilt tbh

    • @davidgray3945
      @davidgray3945 Před 4 lety +61

      @@nickmcmurray3130Absolutely--for that no. 2.

    • @LegitDalton
      @LegitDalton Před 4 lety +59

      Nick McMurray if you’ve looked into anything about Wilt’s time you would know it was obvious that Russell was a better player. Coaches, analyst, and other players from that time say the same thing. Wilt isn’t even top 5

    • @nickmcmurray3130
      @nickmcmurray3130 Před 4 lety +35

      Lightnin I don’t really think it’s that obvious or simple. Russell was an incredible player and you could argue he was the most unselfish, most team oriented player of all time. And also the greatest rebounder and defender of all time. But Wilt just dominated too much for me not to consider him better. The fact is Russell played with better teammates and Wilt still took the Celtics to elimination games on multiple occasions. Wilt was a far better scorer, lead the league in rebounds more, played almost as good of defense, and even lead the league in assists one season, something no Center had ever done. And I believe that season the Sixers won 68 games, so it’s not like he was just doing it to stat pad, it actually lead to a really good winning record. Wilt holds more statistical records than anyone in history, while being a 2 time champion, a 4 time MVP, a Finals MVP, a 7 time scoring champion, ASG MVP, and won one of his MVPs as a rookie. Don’t mistake me for disrespecting Russell because I’m not. He’s the GOAT defender and was the most unselfish player in history. But Wilt was just different

    • @ghostkid1118
      @ghostkid1118 Před 4 lety +44

      LeBrons 2nd best player of all time no question about it💯

  • @doncapila7246
    @doncapila7246 Před 2 lety +89

    The fact that you created a channel and produced just one video to silence the non-believers makes you the GOAT! Thank you for this!

  • @Bulldog1979
    @Bulldog1979 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I think this was probably the best comparison video I've seen... great job

  • @bananaman5668
    @bananaman5668 Před 7 měsíci +17

    Damn I just looked up the stat he said at the end for Lebron where he made 19 clutch shots out of 94 attempts.
    Turns out he’s taken 18 more and has only made 1 of them (4/24/23 Game 4 of the 1st round of the playoffs against the Grizzlies he made a Layup for his 18th point of the night to send the Lakers to OT in a 117-113 W to go up 3-1)
    That is apparently the only “clutch” shot Lebron has made since this video released.

  • @AndyC1
    @AndyC1 Před 2 lety +303

    MJ playing all 82 games 9 times in his career is the most underrated aspect of his Goat resume. Lebron one time.

    • @shawnkincheloesr5192
      @shawnkincheloesr5192 Před 2 lety +9

      Wow ! Do you know that I never ever knew that about him Andy C & truly I am not even a fan of MJ but how can anybody in my generation even say that they have seen a player who is better than MJ 😳 I just don’t get it 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @peterlebedev4229
      @peterlebedev4229 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, but Lebron played more seasons and games

    • @AndyC1
      @AndyC1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@shawnkincheloesr5192 I don't get it either..

    • @shawnkincheloesr5192
      @shawnkincheloesr5192 Před 2 lety +15

      @@peterlebedev4229 yeah & Maybe Lebron James did play more seasons and more games Peter, but 82 games 9 years 😳 look at those numbers 😳 are you kidding me ? Geeeeeeeeshhhhhh that is a whole whole whole lot of work & he once told somebody in an interview that he didn’t want to be viewed as just a scorer & did he not back that up. & let’s try to imagine if he didn’t break his leg early in his career or his Father did not tragically die. 😳 Michael Jordan single handily took Basketball to a whole different level. Basketball is my favorite sport & I use to play the game and I can’t sit here and imagine what it takes to reach that plateau as a basketball player and guess what ? Neither can Lebron. Any true fan of basketball understands what I am saying here. I won’t sit here and say that Lebron James is not a good player and he is well above average as a player, but GOAT Status ? Nawwwwwww I ain’t willing to say that and this younger generation keeps saying that Lebron is better or those who just flat out hate on MJ for whatever reasons.

    • @jarronudy5936
      @jarronudy5936 Před 2 lety

      John Stockton must be the goat then since he did that 16 times

  • @owenl2129
    @owenl2129 Před 2 lety +626

    Coming back from a 3-1 lead is impressive, what’s more impressive is not letting a 3-1 lead even happen lol

    • @paperchaser-lv9sz
      @paperchaser-lv9sz Před 2 lety +26

      Ain’t it 🤣😂🤣

    • @bigsassyster
      @bigsassyster Před 2 lety +5

      You are thinking of golf or billiards

    • @Birkinbacon
      @Birkinbacon Před 2 lety +14

      You sound like a warriors fan

    • @lukelucky1311
      @lukelucky1311 Před 2 lety +10

      Bogut injury flipped as series

    • @hypocritetrollbot7729
      @hypocritetrollbot7729 Před 2 lety +12

      @@lukelucky1311 this is false. LeBron used dirty disrespectful tactics to bait Draymond into getting suspended for game 6 and whined about it post game. Bogut got more minutes as a result and got hurt in game 6. What turned the tide was getting baiting draymond into the flagrant and then suspended. Cavs deserve respect though for winning game 7 in the final few scoreless minutes.

  • @jiyongjung8495
    @jiyongjung8495 Před 9 měsíci

    Well made. Thank you for the content.

  • @shawnkincheloesr5192
    @shawnkincheloesr5192 Před 2 lety +496

    I am a die hard Laker fan hands down & Magic Johnson will always be my favorite Laker as well as player, but MJ was the best that I have ever seen to play the game and Kobe was the closest that I have seen to MJ, but the GOAT is certainly Michael Air Jordan, without a doubt ✌🏾

    • @Htown_babyyyyy
      @Htown_babyyyyy Před 2 lety +1

      Woah that’s crazy I thought every Lakers fan had Kobe as their favorite but magic was that dude too

    • @aronidk9135
      @aronidk9135 Před 2 lety +2

      Tnb11 it depends what era you became a laker fan. i became a laker fan in 2010 when i first got into basketball so kobe is my favourite iwhile snoop dogg seems to have magic over kobe because he grew up n became a fan in the 80s

    • @shawnkincheloesr5192
      @shawnkincheloesr5192 Před 2 lety +3

      @@aronidk9135 Exactly and I am telling my age, lol but I am old school for sure and I became a Laker fan in the late 70’s early 80’s. Hmmmmmm whenever Magic Johnson came to the team, I became a fan. Back when I started watching basketball, the two top teams was Boston or LA, so I decided to roll with LA 👊🏾, yet I will always love & respect what Kobe brought to the game 🙏🏾😞

    • @felixfeichtner2613
      @felixfeichtner2613 Před 2 lety +1

      Youre telling me that kobe is nr. 2 ?

    • @hwthomasjr
      @hwthomasjr Před 2 lety +5

      Dude, I could've written this post. I have been a Magic fan since his MSU days, and a Laker fan since Kareem got there. But just like every other person who saw him play, I have never seen anything like Jordan. I died a little when Bulls got the Lakers back when.
      And here's the thing... Lebron is a Laker, and I'm a Laker, so I'm no hater. Actually have enjoyed and admired his game since the beginning.
      But Jordan? If you want the biggest, strongest guy who lasted the longest? Lebron. You want to win ? We know who tgat is.

  • @bandolin1216
    @bandolin1216 Před rokem +752

    To me it comes down to just one thing. If I could only go to one NBA game in my entire life, who would I want to see. Hands down MJ.

    • @TheeFitnessEnthusiast
      @TheeFitnessEnthusiast Před 11 měsíci +9

      Fuck that. I'm going with Lebron. He's one of the greatest play makers ever. Plus, he has more game-winners than Jordan (regular season and playoffs).

    • @zinjgreen3398
      @zinjgreen3398 Před 11 měsíci +59

      ​@@TheeFitnessEnthusiast lol he had 10 Finals appearances and not a game winning shot? He also missed a lot of game winning shot😂

    • @kenith287
      @kenith287 Před 11 měsíci +34

      ​@@TheeFitnessEnthusiast aesthetically, MJ hand down. Lebron would look pretty if he played line back in the NFL. Not basketball!! He looks awkward and train wreckish. Yaa at the end of the day its putting the biscuit in the basket....but ITS HOW YOU DO IT. And we all know MJ does it the prettiest. I cringe when Lebron tries to make a slick basketball move.

    • @MikeHawk-yg3gk
      @MikeHawk-yg3gk Před 11 měsíci +3

      For me neither, it's Bird or Hakeem

    • @joshuabrooks4435
      @joshuabrooks4435 Před 11 měsíci +2

      One game….Allen Iverson or Kobe. Season Tickets including playoffs and Finals…….bruh it’s Air Jordan errry day

  • @peterschwarz6512
    @peterschwarz6512 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is truely THE best and objective comparison video on YT!

  • @jefftorres9334
    @jefftorres9334 Před 16 dny +2

    That's an incredible GOAT debate! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @jaygill9394
    @jaygill9394 Před 3 lety +437

    Idk about Americans but i can tell u that foreigners know basketball because of MICHAEL JORDAN.❤️🙏🏻

    • @lakeshownation7964
      @lakeshownation7964 Před 3 lety +18

      I'm an American, but I love Basketball and Football too (soccer) because of Messi.❤

    • @adibakaifa4024
      @adibakaifa4024 Před 3 lety

      Yes that's right

    • @asmrbully6980
      @asmrbully6980 Před 3 lety

      yee

    • @danielc1291
      @danielc1291 Před 3 lety +17

      @@lakeshownation7964
      A man of culture, I see.
      MJ + Messi = GOATS 🐐

    • @o1h823
      @o1h823 Před 3 lety +14

      Yes even my parents don't speak English but they know Michael jordan

  • @steppameresteppamere1954
    @steppameresteppamere1954 Před 3 lety +226

    Michael most underrated accomplishment was how he is the main reason why so many All-Time greats don’t have rings. Ex: Patrick, Barkely, Reggie, Malone

    • @44anml226
      @44anml226 Před 3 lety +4

      Gary payton gotta be up there too, imagine being known as the guy who clamped up jordan

    • @thatfunmaker3484
      @thatfunmaker3484 Před 3 lety +13

      I'm so glad he stopped malone from getting a ring

    • @freddyarkalji4208
      @freddyarkalji4208 Před 3 lety +8

      Also he managed to not lose 3 times in a row in the 90s which is insane

    • @gsentinel4821
      @gsentinel4821 Před 3 lety +1

      I concur.

    • @theawesome9yearold20
      @theawesome9yearold20 Před 3 lety

      44ron well he got one on the heat I believe

  • @HorseMaster23
    @HorseMaster23 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Amazing !!! Very, very well-done!!!

  • @Js-hf7oz
    @Js-hf7oz Před 8 měsíci

    This is the greatest video I have seen about the goat debate. Thank you!

  • @Scratch2C
    @Scratch2C Před 2 lety +527

    This man dropped one banger and just dipped. The true GOAT.

    • @Scottishrugbyguy
      @Scottishrugbyguy Před 2 lety +14

      dude seriously...thought the same thing

    • @DivineAtheistWannabe
      @DivineAtheistWannabe Před 2 lety +30

      Lmaoooo. This dude badly needs to make more content

    • @with.the.y
      @with.the.y Před 2 lety +12

      I didn’t realize he had only one video but dayum you right.

    • @doteverything6221
      @doteverything6221 Před 2 lety +8

      🐐

    • @John6-40
      @John6-40 Před 2 lety +15

      The best video on MJ v Bron I've seen. Truly comprehensive and a mic drop moment.

  • @foolishspecialist7479
    @foolishspecialist7479 Před 3 lety +387

    This video should be preserved in the National Archives along with “The Last Dance” docu-series, so that people can have a comparison reference material for when another so-called G.O.A.T. emerges in the future.

    • @garygriffin5145
      @garygriffin5145 Před 3 lety +3

      Right

    • @markanthonydeguzman6289
      @markanthonydeguzman6289 Před 3 lety +4

      @Abdul Shah the propagandists are the current NBA leadership along with Lebron and Rich Paul's promotions. Pushing the stupid proposition/narrative that Lebron is one of the greatest. HE IS FUCKING NOT.

    • @stanlyong5336
      @stanlyong5336 Před 3 lety +1

      This should be included in a new special, "The true GOAT" where everyone's states are put into question. Magic, Kobe, Shaq, Lebron. I bet the goat will still be Jordan

    • @neutralgirl8997
      @neutralgirl8997 Před 3 lety

      I do think MJ is the GOAT, but this video is highly biased. It is trying to make it seem that "it's not even close" between MJ & LeBron. But the fact is that it is close.

    • @DannyITM
      @DannyITM Před 3 lety

      @@neutralgirl8997 keep in mind lebron has been playing longer than mj and he didnt retire twice and come back in his 40s

  • @TheDrVtachShow
    @TheDrVtachShow Před měsícem +1

    Best comparison video Thank you ❤

  • @daimionhollins528
    @daimionhollins528 Před 11 měsíci

    All in all, DangerP,.. you've done your homework on this. This is more detailed than any ESPN broadcaster/analyst could tell it
    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😃
    Perfect 👌😉

  • @andrewstafford2727
    @andrewstafford2727 Před 2 lety +497

    I saw Jordan play twice. Once as a 40 year old. During the game MJ held the ball in front of him with his arm outstretched inches from his defender. Jumaine Jones could not take the ball from him. JJ would lunge to grab it and MJ would move it a foot in one direction or another. This went on for around 20 seconds. Then Jordan and scored while the Cleveland arena booed its own player and cheered on Michael Jordan for embarrassing him. I don't think I'll ever see anything like this in professional sports again.
    He's the goat.

    • @benjaminan1183
      @benjaminan1183 Před 2 lety +6

      That type of stuff happens all the time in Warriors games.

    • @marlonpatterson4615
      @marlonpatterson4615 Před 2 lety +3

      I don't doubt that Jordan was a great player, just think if his regular team was the dream team would he have had to do as much,No.and when you have refs cheating for you you always have y chance.

    • @TuneFan29354
      @TuneFan29354 Před 2 lety +3

      So he's the GOAT at Keep Away.... congrats lmao

    • @marlonpatterson4615
      @marlonpatterson4615 Před 2 lety +2

      I really don't care, because basketball is the easiest sport to play and the be easiest sport in which to get into the Hall of Fame, but I would always say Kareem is the Goat.

    • @Tippotipo
      @Tippotipo Před 2 lety +12

      @@marlonpatterson4615 You just insulted all NBA legends and professional basketball players as your sentence exposed your complete ignorance. Try playing defence against an opponent or score with physical contacts, you will have a rude awakening by begging to catch a breath.

  • @tsuminoki7778
    @tsuminoki7778 Před 4 lety +722

    I’m a Lebron fan but you can’t argue with the facts MJ is the goat

    • @kobebryantthanosstopper5077
      @kobebryantthanosstopper5077 Před 3 lety +51

      You’re a legend.

    • @kobebryantthanosstopper5077
      @kobebryantthanosstopper5077 Před 3 lety +102

      I don’t think I have ever respected a Lebron fan more.

    • @tyleru96
      @tyleru96 Před 3 lety +50

      respect for being objective. Also, it's not like admitting Jordan is the goat reduces LeBron's greatness. LeBron is going to go down as a top 3 player ever.

    • @tsuminoki7778
      @tsuminoki7778 Před 3 lety +8

      Tupdike I think everything rides on how he ends his career might make him top 2

    • @kobebryantthanosstopper5077
      @kobebryantthanosstopper5077 Před 3 lety +8

      ADJEI He will definitely finish top 3. He might knock Kobe out of that 3 spot, which for me would be one of the most painful days of my life lol That’s just my opinion tho. Lebron is already the best ever for a lot of people. For some he isn’t top 10 or 15 which is CRAZY. For me he is number 7 all time(right now)

  • @corydukes1127
    @corydukes1127 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Hell of a video for your first video!

  • @DominicHolder-nn3um
    @DominicHolder-nn3um Před 2 měsíci

    Extremely comprehensive analysis. Great numbers breakdown 🎉

  • @ikey1119
    @ikey1119 Před 2 lety +546

    This video is a masterpiece. Don’t touch it, don’t edit it. Leave it as is. The fact that this man came in the content game and made one video that has over 3 million views is just so poetic to me. Almost like how Jordan had no flaws. Came in the game and dominated from the moment he touched the hardwood, until he decided to hang ‘em up.
    The case is closed. No second chances. No Game 7s.
    You got it done in one take. It’s so emblematic of Jordan. No fluff. Straight Greatness. Respect Bruh.
    My Goat is Kobe. But that’s MY GOAT, Jordan isn’t even in the Goat debate for me. He transcended it. Jordan is a Cultural Icon. Lebron is just a basketball player in my eyes. 2 different planets.

    • @thetruth14444
      @thetruth14444 Před 2 lety +8

      JORDAN LOSS 6 PLAYOFF RUNS PRIOR

    • @thetruth14444
      @thetruth14444 Před 2 lety +8

      FLAWLESS MY A22

    • @ikey1119
      @ikey1119 Před 2 lety +33

      @@thetruth14444 Jordan came in the game and dominated from jump, where were his flaws? Jordan won and started his reign. You’re triggered.

    • @thetruth14444
      @thetruth14444 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ikey1119 HE MISSED THE PLAYOFFS SEVERAL TIMES

    • @ikey1119
      @ikey1119 Před 2 lety +9

      @@thetruth14444 I’m aware. What’s your point? 😂

  • @yellow6100
    @yellow6100 Před 3 lety +1080

    FACT: as soon as Lebron stops playing this debate will be forgoten and it will always be MJ vs the next "new guy".

    • @s41k02
      @s41k02 Před 3 lety +54

      Adnan Ashtar yea ima MJ fan but if lebron is going to be forgotten he’d have to fail after his first 5 seasons. Lebron is gonna be like Kobe, closest to MJ but not exact. I mean if he wins 2 rings yes but I doubt it because the warriors,bucks,raptors,nuggets, mavs and nets

    • @adnan8837
      @adnan8837 Před 3 lety +46

      @@s41k02 I can see LeBron possibly winning 1-2 more rings with the Lakers and he'll probably be #1 in points scored by the time his career is over. Jordan is the Goat, but LeBron will be remembered as the best player if the 2010s (and maybe early 2020s) like Magic/Bird in the 80s, Jordan in the 90s, and Kobe/Duncan in the 2000s.

    • @roblox_periotroblox6625
      @roblox_periotroblox6625 Před 3 lety +6

      100 TRUTH!!!!!!!

    • @roblox_periotroblox6625
      @roblox_periotroblox6625 Před 3 lety

      @@adnan8837 NOT

    • @adnan8837
      @adnan8837 Před 3 lety +4

      @@roblox_periotroblox6625 Not what exactly?

  • @johnmenendez6035
    @johnmenendez6035 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Really great video...thanks

  • @jtbmag7720
    @jtbmag7720 Před 7 měsíci

    The producer of this video is the baby goat...are you kidding me? Great sound, great video, and SPOT ON narration of a perfect argument. Over and over and over...X2 was EPIC.

  • @aidancollins3571
    @aidancollins3571 Před 4 lety +1993

    Can we also acknowledge how MJ never lost three straight games from 1990 to 1998🤯

    • @tartuffethesprywonderdog5883
      @tartuffethesprywonderdog5883 Před 4 lety +56

      Damn, that's quite stat?

    • @SJO897
      @SJO897 Před 4 lety +105

      He had the best team in the league.....

    • @jonasbandoy
      @jonasbandoy Před 4 lety +6

      czcams.com/video/64Iy2et9v0E/video.html

    • @mrpatman1163
      @mrpatman1163 Před 4 lety +113

      Brandon Jbs he was coming back after 2 years away compared to Lebron losing as heavy favorites to the Mavs in his prime while being outplayed by Jason Terry

    • @oldsnake8563
      @oldsnake8563 Před 4 lety +51

      @@SJO897 this is basketball 5 v 5 , lebron had bosh and wade to make it simple, heats have 3 all stars but only 2/4 in finals

  • @kiaghods5730
    @kiaghods5730 Před 3 lety +379

    LeBron has been my favorite NBA player for as long as I can remember, but I can’t disagree with facts.
    MJ is the GOAT. He is the ultimate winner.

    • @acejojo
      @acejojo Před 3 lety +5

      Respect ✊🏾

    • @bossbaby69
      @bossbaby69 Před 3 lety +18

      Haris Wilkinson Bill Russell won the most*. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the “ultimate winner” considering there were less teams, less playoff games, and less talent during his era.

    • @datboidylan7200
      @datboidylan7200 Před 3 lety

      Kia Ghods couldn’t get out of the first round without pippen

    • @justinpelkey6722
      @justinpelkey6722 Před 3 lety +17

      ​@@datboidylan7200 Pippen was great. Put Pippen with Barkley, that would have turned the Suns into a consistent Championship contender.
      Put Jordan with Barkley, that team wouldn't lose a Championship period, that's the difference.
      Or give a career all-star caliber player another career all-star caliber player, you get a great team. Give a career all-star caliber player Michael Jordan, and you get a dynasty.

    • @clownnig3414
      @clownnig3414 Před 3 lety +8

      Swaggykilla without the rebound by bosh. ray allen and kyrie, Lebron would be 1-8 thank them.

  • @JTangReef
    @JTangReef Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent video! Great analysis! Debate is over. Thank you!

  • @FelipeSantos-wu1uf
    @FelipeSantos-wu1uf Před 8 měsíci

    This is the definitive video, insane job.

  • @OmariMaldini
    @OmariMaldini Před 3 lety +961

    GOAT was invented to describe MJ, nothing has changed.

    • @HD-mm1iz
      @HD-mm1iz Před 3 lety +83

      Ummm...that's incorrect. Muhammad Ali coined the phrase "Greatest of All Time" before Jordan was even thinking about playing basketball.

    • @go_sensei3370
      @go_sensei3370 Před 3 lety +4

      @@HD-mm1iz right

    • @bobtv9652
      @bobtv9652 Před 3 lety +14

      @@HD-mm1iz in the context of basketball not in boxing

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 Před 3 lety +4

      @@HD-mm1iz ....THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 Před 3 lety +1

      @@bobtv9652 ...False!

  • @fiorap11
    @fiorap11 Před 4 lety +389

    This is the best and most clear explanation of this “debate” by far.

    • @zzz.tyrone
      @zzz.tyrone Před 3 lety +5

      Best ever

    • @zzz.tyrone
      @zzz.tyrone Před 3 lety

      BigTime Bucket especially MJs Ego 😂

    • @cubbdacrossfacecrippler
      @cubbdacrossfacecrippler Před 3 lety +1

      It's got a lot of loopholes. He's enjected personal opinions into his analyst. When making a documentary comparing players it's important that you stick to facts in which you can prove with physical proof.

    • @w.davidholland7228
      @w.davidholland7228 Před 3 lety

      @@princenicolas8797 Nobody cares. I see this debate 50 times a day. People will always compare and debate different eras cuz it's fun.

    • @w.davidholland7228
      @w.davidholland7228 Před 3 lety

      @@cubbdacrossfacecrippler Define loophole. I'm certain that isn't the word you're trying to use.

  • @UPRISING144K
    @UPRISING144K Před 10 měsíci +1

    This is the best comparison I have ever seen, why doesn't this channel have more posted videos? I would like to see the same comparison of MJ vs kobe and vs Kareem

  • @jesperschultz2727
    @jesperschultz2727 Před 28 dny +1

    This is incredibly well argumented!

  • @jamesmorris4258
    @jamesmorris4258 Před 2 lety +586

    Lebron will never be Jordan, no matter how many Space Jam sequels he makes.

  • @Nyfalhem
    @Nyfalhem Před 3 lety +381

    What may be even more impressive than Michael Jordan, is that this is this guy's first video on youtube. You talking about coming out strong!!!!

    • @willywonkers1592
      @willywonkers1592 Před 3 lety +7

      Strong like a Bull ( pun intended )

    • @tylerthompson7739
      @tylerthompson7739 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s also his only video

    • @jadenf6606
      @jadenf6606 Před 3 lety +2

      Wow thats probably the best first video ever

    • @tyrellcobb4665
      @tyrellcobb4665 Před 3 lety

      Probably just a different username

    • @crosswiz6
      @crosswiz6 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jadenf6606 Yup his 1st video and its a banger!! He's got 1 in the bag already lets see if he goes 6 for 6 like MJ 😂

  • @MrHumbleSoul
    @MrHumbleSoul Před 8 měsíci

    This video was Epic AF!!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @coreygunz645
    @coreygunz645 Před 2 měsíci

    Awesome video dude. U did such a great job man I had to subscribe for more

  • @ajaymanoj3527
    @ajaymanoj3527 Před 3 lety +190

    LeBron said he is the best player of all time
    We people say Jordan is the greatest player of all the time. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️🙏

    • @suitub5710
      @suitub5710 Před 3 lety +2

      he said he needs respect though lol, what's respect he refers is he is the GOAT

    • @andreix6840
      @andreix6840 Před 3 lety

      Facts

    • @MrDacomkd
      @MrDacomkd Před 3 lety +8

      @@suitub5710 you don’t beg for respect, you earn it

    • @TheSentryVoid
      @TheSentryVoid Před 3 lety +6

      It hasn't proven to be the best, because the Chicago shadow will last forever.

    • @jaleelhansley7474
      @jaleelhansley7474 Před 3 lety

      @Elijah Hunter damn nigga, you not suppose to give out that info.

  • @markctaylormade
    @markctaylormade Před 4 lety +70

    My son is a 16 year old high school student. I showed him this for him to see early what a thorough, entertaining, compelling, complete topic presentation looks like... feels like. You, sir are the G.O.A.T.!

  • @guccitho7123
    @guccitho7123 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This is the GOAT video to end the GOAT debate 👏👏👏👏 thank you for making this perfect video my good sir

    • @chrisprievo4582
      @chrisprievo4582 Před 7 měsíci

      sadly butthurt Bron stans say this is "biased" or "hate" (cuz the facts don't end up in Bron's favor) & they want to rewrite history. its like a plague of ignorance and denial.

  • @Jordan23-G.O.A.T.
    @Jordan23-G.O.A.T. Před 9 měsíci +3

    Perfect video......well done 👏

  • @danielskahl
    @danielskahl Před 3 měsíci

    1st video? Very impressive! That was a very professional presentation that objectively and subjectively gave summary to what some consider a controversial debate that should not be controversial.

  • @dipren443
    @dipren443 Před 3 lety +181

    We witnessed Lebron pretty much give up in an NBA Finals. For that and that alone, I cannot put Lebron at the top. Your analysis only cements that with a ton of other supporting data.

    • @codygraham2362
      @codygraham2362 Před 3 lety +5

      I mean it’s easy to be the best when you have the best team around you and it’s easy to say he gave up when he’s playing one of the best teams in history😂😴

    • @kenmatong3794
      @kenmatong3794 Před 3 lety +10

      NHDolphinsFan go back to your dolphins man cave. MJ played the best Celtic’s team in the history of that franchise (how many rings?), and averaged over 35 PPG.

    • @codygraham2362
      @codygraham2362 Před 3 lety +3

      Kenma Tong you automatically get excluded from the conversation when you say how many rings😂 that is the most garbage argument ever. Plus no teams were made to beat MJ like they were against LeBron plus the NBA was easier back then everyone wants to say it wasn’t but it was considering the fact that a teams average points per game has gone down by almost 10 ppg is saying something. Plus the playbook was made for Jordan so he could take on these Plummer’s 1 on 1 cause of illegal defense so everyone would either have to commit to the double team on Jordan or hope the man on him can stay in front of him. The league was so easy back then and every one tries to say this league is a cupcake league but look at Jordan against the bad boy Pistons he got soooo many questionable fouls that went his way but the league was sooo aggressive back then please. Then when people say LeBron would be nobody in that league are flat out wrong if anything he’d be better cause he could just iso the entire time like Jordan did. Jordan was a great scorer but that’s all I give him. He was a great defensive player against a weak league of SG’s. Notice how when Kobe and AI came in they made him look like a fool yeah I get he’s old but LeBron is old too and had to carry a sorry Cavs team for years. Old heads can’t move on and the NBA gives everyone else the MVP to save Jordan’s legacy the NBA is sorry for that.

    • @jean_marcm9663
      @jean_marcm9663 Před 3 lety

      Kenma Tong he played that Celtics team and still lost after putting up 60, I agree mj is the Goat but the Goat has a great team otherwise he wouldn’t be 6-0

    • @UXSpecialist
      @UXSpecialist Před 3 lety +12

      @@codygraham2362 I'm Sorry little bro, but you know nothing about basketball. You'd get laughed off any stage, any platform, any conversation anywhere with all that false garbage you just vomited. You literally just made yourself look like a fool. You should have just kept your mouth shut and no one would have known......

  • @twowheelseatingmeals-motoj8080

    They don't understand and will never understand...
    In the words of Stephan A Smith "This shouldn't even be a discussion"

  • @MrBedZeppelin
    @MrBedZeppelin Před 5 měsíci

    Great Job! As a Chicagoan I appreciate the memories from this incredible ERA, of basketball.

  • @Jiraiya55
    @Jiraiya55 Před měsícem +1

    Insane video good job

  • @malikking9739
    @malikking9739 Před 2 lety +205

    "This is my first video"... WHAAAT?!? This is the single best 'first video' I've ever seen. It's the GOAT of all GOAT debate videos.

    • @beepboop4833
      @beepboop4833 Před rokem +1

      He needs to do more

    • @davjamrid
      @davjamrid Před rokem +6

      One of the greatest basketball videos I have ever seen...PERIOD. Production quality is better than most TV shows.

    • @neetrab
      @neetrab Před rokem

      I don't know if I believe it's his first video.

    • @yetekt6953
      @yetekt6953 Před rokem +1

      It’s his only video

    • @pressss.3422
      @pressss.3422 Před rokem

      @@beepboop4833 do more than what? a thirty minute video?

  • @muisje351
    @muisje351 Před 4 lety +178

    This man makes first video.
    “Gets more than one million views in a month”

    • @Kestasification
      @Kestasification Před 3 lety +10

      200% worth it

    • @solemagus4761
      @solemagus4761 Před 3 lety +9

      I shared this Like a MF to every Jordan Stan and Bronsexual and their counterparts lol... ESPN was doing too much I had to do it..

    • @unclecraig8790
      @unclecraig8790 Před 3 lety

      Michael Price I wonder when his next video will drop

  • @drizzejohnson5767
    @drizzejohnson5767 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This is best break down I’ve saw. Very fair & truthful whether you like it or not

  • @andrewgordonjr7823
    @andrewgordonjr7823 Před 11 měsíci

    I like dis video! Well said 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @victormelendez1074
    @victormelendez1074 Před rokem +650

    This is actually better than anything ESPN has produced. Great job!!

    • @IheartLeDaddy
      @IheartLeDaddy Před rokem +5

      No not really he’s really bias

    • @ryanrs1000
      @ryanrs1000 Před rokem

      @@IheartLeDaddy nah he just cooked goofs like you

    • @IheartLeDaddy
      @IheartLeDaddy Před rokem

      @@ryanrs1000 "goofs" mf this is why you get bullied

    • @ryanrs1000
      @ryanrs1000 Před rokem

      @@IheartLeDaddy Bro you’re so fucked in the head it’s unreal, cry more

    • @IheartLeDaddy
      @IheartLeDaddy Před rokem +7

      @@ryanrs1000 looks like i triggered some memories lmfao

  • @jonathanlangford4291
    @jonathanlangford4291 Před 2 lety +724

    So stupid to even argue this.
    MJ won 3 in a row, took off to play baseball for two seasons, came back to win another 3 in a row.
    One of the greatest stories in all of sports.

    • @ShadowWizard123
      @ShadowWizard123 Před 2 lety +47

      Imagine if MJ had been able to skip college. An extra 3 or 4 years of peak Jordan, maybe 2 more rings.

    • @BrotherJudahisreal
      @BrotherJudahisreal Před 2 lety +24

      I agree there's really no comparison Michael Jordan is the goat.💯

    • @rezmak1807
      @rezmak1807 Před 2 lety +3

      With almost new roster in the next 3-peat

    • @ajcaponigro726
      @ajcaponigro726 Před 2 lety +23

      Wrong …. He came back lost to Penny and Shaq the. Won 3 more

    • @CJ-ui9zo
      @CJ-ui9zo Před 2 lety +24

      So stupid to think championships determine who’s better bill Russell won 8 in a row but lemme guess he faced plumbers? Mj best competition KD alone is better than 98% of them people gotten more skilled overtime? Bron better

  • @7rx759
    @7rx759 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Please come back, we need you rn

  • @jhard94
    @jhard94 Před 2 lety +253

    This video is the best breakdown I’ve ever seen. We also forget that Mj retired twice while he was at the height of his career. If he never retired, he would have played 18-20 seasons, probably won 8 rings straight and his stats would be even more crazy. He will always be the greatest of all time.

    • @samm552
      @samm552 Před 2 lety +17

      An obviously biased video is not "the best breakdown video" dude.

    • @darthmalgus232
      @darthmalgus232 Před 2 lety +31

      @@samm552 Lol, you’re so butthurt. Third comment I’ve seen of you whining.

    • @d_shiesty9451
      @d_shiesty9451 Před 2 lety +3

      @@samm552 thank you like he point all of the things that made mj good and points of things that lebron is bad at and uses football as a reference to basketball

    • @amoron6435
      @amoron6435 Před 2 lety +20

      @@d_shiesty9451 he compared relevant stats tho… even the 8 most fundamental stats for basketball had jordan over lebron

    • @SwagyP
      @SwagyP Před 2 lety +6

      @@amoron6435 no, the way he compared them was idiotic just to boost the narrative that Jordan is better… I believe Jordan is the goat but it’s extremely close and some the things this guy did and said was blasphemy. Instead of raw statistics he manipulated it in a way to make Jordan’s stats look better… there were far better small forwards in league history then SG who mainly had just Kobe, AI, and Wade who even Lebron was better at almost everything then them… Lebron has to compete with people like KD who arguably the best scorer of all time which rules scoring, Larry bird, erving, kawahi, PG, melo, etc… all players with crazy stats in certain categories, if Jordan was switched to small forward position he’d be lower, but even if that isn’t enough he didn’t even take in account coach’s play these positions differently, or the fact Lebron plays point guard a lot of his career, you’re supposed to compare stats… no matter the position, Lebron is a better rebounder, shot blocker, assist maker, better raw shooting percentage, and slightly behind in points per game. He also bashed on Lebron in Jordan’s winning categories while going easy on Jordan in the one Lebron won. Worst of all this idiot said physicals don’t matter in goat talk🤦🏽‍♂️ that might be the stupidest take I’ve ever heard, he was clearly biased

  • @brianlee6659
    @brianlee6659 Před 2 lety +164

    This man really put up one video and dropped the mic. Legend

    • @goattm3867
      @goattm3867 Před 2 lety

      True it was an update video he did drop though but deleted it

    • @goattm3867
      @goattm3867 Před 2 lety +2

      Mj was still the goat tho

    • @BrandonMasonShow
      @BrandonMasonShow Před 2 lety

      Haha have to agree! Just did a full video on this, the size is a bit important for each position.

  • @nicolaslecomte347
    @nicolaslecomte347 Před 8 měsíci

    Brilliant demonstration !

  • @patrickcunningham3662
    @patrickcunningham3662 Před 3 měsíci

    Just seeing this vid for the first time, and you said it was your 1st video, which is unbelievable the production is amazing so impressive

  • @slayerde440
    @slayerde440 Před 3 lety +81

    Jordan is the greatest of all time. He didnt leave the team that drafted him to join a stacked team. He hustled and made everyone else better and demanded excellence from everyone else as well as himself. Thats why he's so much better than the King of excuses.

    • @slayerde440
      @slayerde440 Před 3 lety +1

      @Kenneth Erickson yep

    • @slayerde440
      @slayerde440 Před 3 lety

      @SSJ3MJ 😂😂

    • @marioortega7444
      @marioortega7444 Před 3 lety +2

      Remember when J. R. Blew the chance to win the game vs. Golden state? You can read Lebron's mind going "There is my scape goat, now we can lose and nobody can blame me". He quit right there, series over. That's to quote that kid that turned around and called the "game over" moment,

    • @slayerde440
      @slayerde440 Před 3 lety +4

      @@marioortega7444 they still had a chance to win in OT and LeBron decided to pout and cry instead.

    • @alexandrezas7057
      @alexandrezas7057 Před 3 lety

      Jordan without the Bulls would not be so successful, since the Chicago squad was much above average for the time ... First to start with the bank, where Kukok in 1996 won the sixth league man award, Lebron never had one privilege on your team. Another positive aspect was that Horace Grant was an excellent bouncer, soon afterwards Roodman, simply one of the greatest bouncers in history, again Lebron never had such a privilege on his team. Finally, Jordan had one of the greatest technicians in history (Phil Jackson), and once again, Lebron never had the privilege of acting alongside a technician of this size.
      In short, Lebron James is the best player in NBA history, precisely because he managed to win the league with a coach called Tyroon Lue and players like Mozgov, Dellavedova, Shumpert and Mo Williams, then I ask you !!!! There is but won because the other side the team was weak !!! And the answer is no !!!!
      It was one of the greatest teams in the history of the league, which came from a record of only 9 losses in the season, the Warriors. Mano Lebron is the G.O.A.T

  • @tor9273
    @tor9273 Před 2 lety +799

    Here’s the thing, Jordan, after winning three titles with the Bulls, took a two-year break, then came back to a completely new weak Bulls team with only Scottie Pippen as a veteran from the old days. In the matter of a single season he turned that group of strangers into a championship team. Three years running. Let me know who else in basketball history did something like that through force of will alone.

    • @vickramsingh5814
      @vickramsingh5814 Před 2 lety +44

      they picked up rodman and steve kerr in those last 3 years

    • @aconfusedshoe6240
      @aconfusedshoe6240 Před 2 lety +79

      @@vickramsingh5814 And both of them had problems in their career at the time

    • @QuestionEverything562
      @QuestionEverything562 Před 2 lety +79

      @@vickramsingh5814 Steve Kerr was just a journey man backup PG before the Bulls, and Rodman was nearly out of the league before the Bulls because of his antics with the Spurs. Rodman brought rebounding and defense, Steve brought shooting. They were not as impactful without a superstar like MJ leading them.

    • @friscokid21
      @friscokid21 Před 2 lety +35

      He turned that team into a championship team in less than a full season. He came out of retirement and rejoined the Bulls after they already had played 50+ games.. Amazingly, he dragged that .500 Bulls team to the playoffs but they ended up losing to the Magic i think. Its completely understandable if you take into consideration that Jordan was not in basketball shape as he had been playing baseball for the previous year and a half.

    • @Runforestrun
      @Runforestrun Před 2 lety +29

      Oh yes, the amazing Steve Kerr...who had a career average of 6 points a game.
      Rodman was a great pick up, but was also seen as a huge risk. Because at that time Rodman was damn near impossible to coach and was a major distraction. Rodman was almost out of the league because no one wanted to deal with his nonsense anymore.
      Not to mention he wasn't exactly in his prime when he joined Chicago either.

  • @tommiegordon7442
    @tommiegordon7442 Před 11 měsíci

    This is by far the best goat comparison I've seen!!

  • @dr.luisuzo4381
    @dr.luisuzo4381 Před 11 měsíci

    Best comparison I ever seen. Would be great if you update it. Pretty sure is the same but some people may argue some stats are old.

  • @treyjay9560
    @treyjay9560 Před 3 lety +128

    What LeBron faced in the Finals in '17 and '18 is what Michael had to face in the first round '86 and '87.

    • @alguapo246
      @alguapo246 Před 3 lety +16

      Jordan went against some of the best players is the 90’s too, you sleep

    • @truecrimelegacy
      @truecrimelegacy Před 3 lety +1

      FOH

    • @allanhouston6759
      @allanhouston6759 Před 3 lety +26

      *Against 60-win teams in the Playoffs: JORDAN ( 7-2 ), Lebron James ( 3-4 ).*
      *Against 50-win teams in the Playoffs: JORDAN ( 20-7 ), Lebron James ( 19-11 ).*
      Lebron James feasted in the weak East ( 2003/2018 ).
      Let"s not forget that Joakim Noah was the last first team All-Nba Player ( 2014 ) besides Lebron James before Giannis ( 2019 ).
      Lebron James barely beat Rookie Jason Tatum ( age 19 ).

    • @alguapo246
      @alguapo246 Před 3 lety +3

      @@allanhouston6759 facts

    • @mrsouthpaw1387
      @mrsouthpaw1387 Před 3 lety +6

      This is just simply not true at all

  • @anthonypasco9378
    @anthonypasco9378 Před 2 lety +92

    FACTS: And Jordan accomplished all this in lesser seasons than LeBron nuff said Jordan is the 🐐 goat!!!!!!

  • @jakeritchie8524
    @jakeritchie8524 Před 6 měsíci +16

    11.16.23. Was anyone else led here from the Spaceforce Ingersol Lockwood site?

  • @markokuhar670
    @markokuhar670 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you for providing this argument is a fair way. People on the internet and tv can’t do this comparison without getting toxic

  • @RaymondLegacy
    @RaymondLegacy Před 4 lety +84

    My dude actually implied Jordan is Thanos with "SIX" infinity stones. Well played haha

    • @isoo_godd1364
      @isoo_godd1364 Před 4 lety

      @G C that's what he was saying

    • @troyd.wattssr6076
      @troyd.wattssr6076 Před 4 lety +1

      😝😝😝😹🤙🏾real big facts❗️💯

    • @christianhenry4173
      @christianhenry4173 Před 4 lety +1

      Oh yes and kobe is iron man right behind mj. Lebron is probably either drax the destroyer or a want to be Captain America 😂

    • @michaeljordanfansaretheworst
      @michaeljordanfansaretheworst Před 4 lety +1

      Michael Jordan is not the number 1 player of all time

    • @christianhenry4173
      @christianhenry4173 Před 4 lety +1

      @@michaeljordanfansaretheworst the number 1 player is still Bill Russell even Mj admitted Bill is the true goat so we can stop who's the better player comparisons because Bill Russell has the finals mvp named after him as the award Giver

  • @disco4255
    @disco4255 Před 3 lety +483

    It feels like LeBron has been playing to be the greatest of all time while Jordan played to win if that makes sense. LeBron wants to win because it helps his case for greatness. While it felt like Jordan wanted to win just because he wanted to win. Two totally different mindsets and it shows like LeBron bouncing to different teams to raise his chances while Jordan retired early because he won 3 in a row and lost the motivation. Jordan wasn't chasing Kareem,magic or Russel he was just chasing himself

    • @rinickulousgaming8599
      @rinickulousgaming8599 Před 3 lety +52

      Finally someone with a logic and a brain. This is the most accurate way to distinguish both. In his early career and reaching his first Conference finals, all Jordan wanted was to be up there with the best of his time like Larry and Magic. I would always argue that his desire to win is unparalleled. To retire in your prime and almost reach MLB for about 18 months just shows his mentality. What I like the most is MJ stayed loyal and he was pivotal in building a dynasty. He started with a bottom feeder team and because of him, they build this legacy.

    • @joesanthosh5315
      @joesanthosh5315 Před 3 lety +11

      @@rinickulousgaming8599 exactly and people who say rings don't matter are just clowns. If rings didn't matter, then LeBron would never make "The Decision", LeBron wouldn't have said after 2020 WCF "Job's not done", MJ even said he couldn't be in the same breath or class as Larry Bird and Magic Johnson until he won that title in 1991

    • @jonathanogundeji4342
      @jonathanogundeji4342 Před 3 lety +9

      Makes complete sense. Jordan has said that if he wanted Kareems scoring title he would have chased it until he got it

    • @cedricsandiford3710
      @cedricsandiford3710 Před 3 lety

      P.o six 6 yet 7zt uth t,+5\

    • @monicalora5779
      @monicalora5779 Před 3 lety +2

      Wtf lebron is in his 17th season hes old now this isn't his prime hes going to be the first person to have 40k points and mh played 1000 more minutes than lebron

  • @markxvan
    @markxvan Před 10 měsíci

    For your first video, you did an amazing job!

  • @nucklechutz9933
    @nucklechutz9933 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Closed the book on it, outstanding.