On30 Mine with full underground
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- We are back to Steve Strbel's On30 railroad so see the fabulous mine area which features a full underground mining operation. While the mine buildings are huge and impressive, the Shoe Kill mine features a head frame with hoist to a lower level where all typical hard rock mining operations can be see.
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cant believe I JUST found this video!!.. This is AWSOME!!.... This is my level of modeling rite here, no detail too small..... I see every nail and bracket!
Thats steve!!!
Love the underground model of the mine, and in the words of THE TOYMAN, the electrical switchboard is "REALLY COOL".
Amazing mine. going to build something like that myself. I hope...
That's what I say to myself everytime I see something like this ;)
Wow, just wow! It's beautiful and very detailed. One of the best layouts I've ever seen.
new show on Steves coming in 2 weeS. The new village of Knowair is DONE!
The only thing missing in the mine is the canary 🐤 😉 really beautiful work!
Astonishing work 💪🏻👍🏻
Looks like Steve has a lot of time to screw around. Thanks for sharing!
He's working on being retired. Not getting that done. Still working 3 days a week, and often all 5. But he's on the railroad everyday.
Wow, the detail is amazing... Thanx for sharing... Christo, South Africa
Just catching up on some very old videos for fun cuz I got nothing else to watch! LOL. The mine was a work of art. ($3.79 for a gallon of gas according to the station you passed.) Oh yeah....now I remember 2014. :)
Yeah gas got pretty expensive right in there. Remember paying over four dollars in many places. At least in California
It's always amazing what guys come with. Great show and great layout.
Its amazing
Wow... to say that I'm impressed is an understatement. I'm a total nut-case when it comes to narrow gauge railroading, both prototype and model railroads! I'm an avid fan of On30 and part of the draw to it is that it does use HO gauge track. For someone who loves to scratch build and/or kitbash equipment in O scale narrow gauge it makes it a lot easier and convenient to use HO mechanisms and parts. (And it can be easier on your wallet to) Plus O scale is really easy to measure out, being a 1/4" + 1 scale foot.
I'm hoping to build a mining railroad of my own in On30 at some point, though based on Arizona Copper mining. And doing something similar to what Steve has done here by using a 30" gauge tramway to haul ore to the "bigger" 3' gauge railroad. Though in my case the bigger railroad will be 30" gauge and the tramway will be On20. (O scale on HOn3 gauge) I'm working on three On20 locomotives at present, a pair of Porters and a freelance 2-Truck shay. I have a blog about On20 modeling if you're interested.
The one thing I would really like to ask about is a 4-4-0 I saw early on in this video, Utah Central (Love that road name, by the way!) "J.W. Young". I looks like it's a modified Bachmann On30 4-4-0, or at least the chassis looks about right, though the boiler seems a little long. Or was it modified from an HO mech and regauged for On3? I would really like to know more about that engine and the story behind the "Utah Central". Anyway, a very excellent video and I'm eager to see more of Steve's layout progress!
Nice to see Al (as Steve) jumping in. Steve has used several HO and On30 units and widened them to On3. Don in our group also has done this, on shays! Big job! but he has made it work. Steve has 2 On30 lines on his railroad, Don has only On3. Don is a mad man when it comes to building locomotives. Im going to do a show on his engines. Amazing. I'm planning several railroads, 1/20 is the main thing, but On30 and On3 as well. I have no railroad at this time (sob) but hundreds of cars and locomotives. Had several railroads in the past, but nothing for the last 15 years.
Toy Man Television I can certainly relate, I've got a small 1:20.3 project I'm working on. I have an old Echo Classic Rail battery train I'm trying to kitbash and modify into a reasonable model locomotive. LOTS OF WORK to do still, but at least it's looking like a locomotive again. I have what a friend calls "Model Railroad A.D.D." since I like to dabble in just about every scale and gauge there is! But I try to focus in O scale like On30 and On20.
I really drawn to craftsman modeling and this layout is a great inspiration. I have a similar mind set in wanting to pack as much detail into something I can. For example, I'm working on a few HO models of the famous (or infamous) locomotives of the Western & Atlantic RR's "General" and "Texas" locomotives. Even though they are tender driven engines I managed to fit a detailed backhead into the small cabs! (Well... WILL be detailed eventually, just have a brass throttle casting so far, but have gauges and other appropriate doo-dads in my parts box)
If you do a mining scene you might want to thing about some odd gauges like On18 (O scale on N gauge) or On20. (O scale on HOn3 gauge) There are some nifty prototype equipment that can be modeled on either gauge. Also, I don't know how traveled you are when it comes to visiting other modelers around the nation, but I think there is a layout that would be worth the visit and a great addition to your channel. "Arizona Dave's" Thunder Mesa Mining Company. It'a a wonderful On30 railroad captures the essence of Dinsey railroading in a somewhat more realistic sense. He has a blog about the continuing evolution of the model railroad and here's a link if you'd like to check it out.
thundermesaminingco.blogspot.com/
He's got some really awesome stuff and is in the planning stages for a detachable On18 mini-layout that will blend into the actual model railroad. Something he just announced recently.
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Cool project. I've never been able to focus on a scale, If I could it would be O scale. Not to big, not to small for the small locos I love. However, sometimes a huge loco and a one mole train is cool. But not in O scale. And to see a 1/20 scale is to fall in love. But then where do you run such a thing without going outside?
Dale
Toy Man Television Yes, that is true. 1?20 is a BIG scale to work with. Anything I'd build in that size would most likely be put on a shelf for display and taken to other folks layouts/garden railroads when visiting. Though if you REALLY want to go big check out 7/8ths scale! Large scale track (G gauge) represents 2ft gauge, so needless to say the models are HUGE!! But I have to agree about O scale, it's a good Goldilocks situation. Not too big, and not too small. Easy to work with and is still big enough to load up with details! Though when you start modeling the very narrow gauges (18" and 20") that can be a challenge, but also part of the reason I'm drawn to it.
+A.J. Davis 1:20 is big? I am contemplating building a 1:4 model of the Bachman Shay or the Utuado Sugar Co CN #2473. Perfect size for on a 7.5" gauge model railroad. Already have a 1:8 scale one. A 1:20 one, two 1:48 On30", and a few HO scale Shays.
That is truly amazing work!
Now and then you see an underground mine modeled. But this one is the best I've ever seen. WOW.
Excellent work. . . I did my Monkey Skull Mine in N scale on a Train Show module. . . On a permanent home layout would be fantastic. . .Love the Mine.
The detail is astounding!
Thanks for sharing it wasn't boring
Such an amazing part of the layout
I'm amazed.
That’s som modeling!
Amazing ! Steve is a big talent to be sure, thank you for another fine video,long may you run Cheers !
Hi Steve sure has the cool layout. He's been on that one for about 30 years. I have a bunch of future shows in mind there. And Steve keeps adding to it so who knows how many shows there will be.
Unbelievable craftsman ship
He’s keeping this somehow on the new railroad. Not sure how or where. But too cool to loose.
That is amazing and looks very realistic.
+truckman63 Amazing, and still growing!
Toy Man Television Really?
Absolutely gorgeous work.words can't do this justice
Amazing right?? More coming soon. Steve is building a new section as we speak.
Toy Man Television can't wait for that
Brad Beining you literly tried to do it justice...
Another "Fabulous" episode of Toy Man Television. Could it be this gets better? Why yes it does. Now, in the Month of October 2015 Please look for the "Brilliant" article with text by Steve and Photography by, you guessed it, Toy Man, in the latest article of Narrow Gauge and Shortline Gazette. As in the video, there is photos and text for those of us that can read. Well done by all the Sunday Irregulars that have refined the fine art of screwing around. (As always, husband of person in profile photo.) A even better re-review of this unusual modeling effort.
Your friend has a lot of skill and knowledge going on there. What a great model and thanks for sharing it with us. I have seen lots of coal mines represented in model railways over here in England but never the actual underground workings.
I've seen it done on a few other railroads, but not as well as done here. Not only is the modeling excellent, but the history and research is well done. Every little thing is drawn for real mining. Every figure is preforming a real world task. The lighting, the hoists. all prototype!
Yes It is very clear to see that Steve has the attitude of do it right or don't do it at all !!
Very very good work. Wow! Your room with that work table is fantastic.
Very informative and great layout..Lot's of detail!
Steves is amazing....
Beautiful! Amazing! Congratulations for this video!
Great mine!! Only little thumbs down was the wobbly cardan drive of the locomotive.
Bachmann locos. But still great mostly.
diese anlage ist spitzenklasse ,der absolute hammer .
+Werner Sievers Ich liebe Steve's Modellbau! Diese Mine ist die Bombe!
waaaou. thaanx mrtoyman &Toywoman:-)
As Steve is dismantling the layout this is one area he is planning to save. But it needs to be lowered about 2 feet. And it wasn’t built to ever come out. But he will make it work
Impressive!
excellent work really dreamy...
Steve has added more to the mine, will be covered in an up coming show. The underground mule stables.
fantastic !!
Amazing layout
A.J. The UC #1 is a Bachman American widened to 3 foot gauge. The cab, domes, and some boiler detail were added so the engine would resemble the prototype. Utah Central was a real railroad that was also narrow "at the hip". Number 1 was their construction loco, and served on several other Utah narrow gauge roads. Al.
SteveI am so impressed with what you did, that you brought model railroading to a whole new level.I started building a small G scale layout on a 32'' by 72'' before I seen this, and I was looking for something different,and this blew me away, and it is exactly the missing link for my layout that I was looking for. So I am copying your under ground mining operation.Your over layout is phonemically to say the least but the mine is an all new dimension THANKS for sharing thisLarry from the ubrr.com
My favorite❤
real nice the underground.c.a.munoz el paso tx.
That is amazing my wife would love to do this she spend all day making models
Wow
stunning.:)
Steve is completely rebuilding the rail road. Which is sort of sad and sort of exciting all at the same time. But the mine remains exactly the same! Although the railroad no longer connects with the head frame.
5:05 This is where the term “Stone Deaf” comes from, the hammer and drill would make such a huge noise that it would deafen most workers, more so than the dynamite going off.
Didn’t know!! Makes sense though
At 2:36 you see Thomas and Friends' "Sodor Fuel"!
alex kemnitz YES YOU DO!
Sharp eye and wit
This is cool! I'd like to make a diorama for my hobby store with my Games Workshop Dwarf Miners something like this...however, the Dwarfs have "Candle Helmets" for lighting....not too sure how I would wire that up though.
Depends on how small they are. There are some cool flickering systems. And very small lights. This thing can control 5 lights. Make them all flicker at a different rate. Uses 12 volt bulbs. Expensive, but controls 5 lights, so about 10 bucks per light. Then you need lights. Heres the controller
www.modelrectifier.com/product-p/025000.htm
I used these in a 30mm dwarf with a lantern hanging from a spear. Looked great. I'd take it to shows and hook up a 9volt and then just leave it on for the whole 3 day show. Still glowing at the end. OR get any power supply that is a plug "wart". So many of them around. You should have a bunch hiding in drawers. Check to see if they are 6 9 or 12 volt. 9 looks best, not a bright and bulbs last forever. 12 works. 18 is right out.
Thank you for that! i have some vintage model train grain of wheat bulbs that might work too, if the heat isn't too much on that plastic.
Cool! MRC - I might have a wholesaler that deals with them! :D
More grade would be nice
Not sure what your are commenting. Perhaps because my grade is F.
WOW...
Steve’s railroad is just so amazing and that mine! As words fall short one house to just look at the video and be amazed
Two more shows coming on Steve's. The fishing village from Popeye and more mine, and the new village at the mill. SOON!!
Beautiful... I'm inspired. Just wondering... do trains operate underground? On the 18" track?
I saw this by tring to find inspiration for a game thats called rolling line. It basicly lets you build a model railroad.
I wanted to touch base about the mine interior of Steve’s layout. It definitely something I need to model for an On30 layout. Is his layout still in existence?
Looks Great!! Well done! What type of lighting in the mine did u used? Looks like a Led? I like the color of it! Can u say what brand or colour rate it is?
Thanks!
Hi. All the mine lights are “grain of rice” lamps. 12 volt running on about 10 volts. The “fill” lights for the photos are daylight led. Camera set to 3200 so the LEDs are blue and the bulbs are yellowish.
I assume the guys working the face weren't much known for having hypersensitive hearing, at least not after the first 2 minutes.
If the hammer didn’t kill ya the TNT did. OSHA?
So much for those purists who say ON30 is not the route to an enjoyable layout. I model strict prototype in HO scale and I am thinking of dumping it. You have much for fun than I do! I only wish I could figure out how to make a general merchandise railroad using ON30 early diesel and Steam. I wouldn't mind the disparity with the gauge. Especially since there WERE a few 30" railroads in the west US.
+abel wayne There were quite a few 30" railroads. The tram here connecting the 36" to the mines is totally prototype. Check out the Crescent Tram in Park City Utah. And doing 36" in 30" is FINE.As long as you are having fun!!!
I totally agree. I have a few customers that immediately go into tie raids if you mention ON30. Even though they respect my abilities to model prototype locomotives and equipment(they are customers after all) and I simply avoid bringing it up. If I say Bachmann has done to ON30 what either Athearn or Atlas did for HO scale, they don't believe it. Bachmann has the level of Atlas quality and the better Athearn offerings, with the original affordable price of an Athearn(not quite so affordable now with Genesis!). Oh well, you have to do your railroad for you, not for someone else. It is fine if they tag along but they can build what they like as well. I still see great talent and quality in ON30 even if every layout isn't like the ones you mentioned, prototype. Hey, how many people do you know that have an actual prototype railroad in any scale? If it isn't inch for inch prototype, then it is freelance! I know I'm gonna hear it for that comment!
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When people rant I like to nod and scratch my chin, then smile and go do what I want to do. And thank you Bachmann!! I love the 1:20.3 stuff, and Bachmann made that all American, wonderful and affordable.
Yes, it is hard to argue with this kind of realism. Funny, even the freelanced stuff looks real. I truly thought that Alco-ish unit was some prototype narrow gauge unit for an obscure railroad in the west. Again, looks like a lot of fun and yet I cannot tell that it isn't based on reality. I suppose if you had a tyco like ramp with a jump(like toy cars) I MIGHT question it. Then again, what is the rule? It's YOUR railroad. Have fun, Toy Man!
The fun part is having a vision of what you want, reality be damned. But if if FEELS real that's the bomb. The mine here is mostly accurate, but if it followed an exact plan, not as fun I think. The the electrical panel and phone is totally made up, over the top, and FUN.
have you seen Ruland Train Museum in Heber Springs, Arkansas?
It would still be 8 ft in 00 gauge
On30 equates to two foot six inches. This is the most famors 2'6" railroad here in Australia...come check it out some time... There is a model layout at Lakeside (on the Puffing Billy ride) you might like too...
puffingbilly.com.au/en/
Want to see that. I HAD a 30 inch tram, modeled on the 30" Cresent Tram in Park City on my HO layout 20 years ago. Still have the shay and cars!!! And a dummy loco.
4:35 how would the flange clear that cross over?
It’s very small. Perhaps a tooth pick. I want to see the mule motorized.
I see sodor fuel :) putting some thomas into it nice is that a ertl car
Hi, I didn't see your post until now. GOOD CALL!! Thomas comes over every few months. Nice guy, a bit shy, and smokes to much. But ya gotta love him. AND yup, ertl car, a bit modified. All is fair in modeling....
👍🏻😁
Great model
Does Steve's layout encompass a certain time period?
If I missed it in the video I apologize.
Sort of. About 1935-1950. Very "ish" Some earlier stuff, some 30's stuff with 20 years of weather, a bit of 1800s without much weather. BUT nothing "modern" Nothing from the 50s or 60s
i found a sodor fuel tank
Did you custom build that Alco? What model is it based on? I recognize that as a Canadian prototype(only standard gauge?).
+abel wayne Steve built it. From an Athern loco. Not sure what if any prototype is followed. Sort of freelance with strong Alco bones.
Very nice. I wish I were in a position to change from HO to ON30. I work on a lot of prototype HO scale locomotives and buildings for customers. I actually get my fill of prototype railroading and I get paid for it! So I would like to relax and listen to that little teapot from Bachmann(who surprised me with their quality, considering their toy market past) and maybe a Forney. Do you know, does Bachmann have any other wheel arrangements like maybe a 260 or even a consolidation with outside frame? I saw a large scale Bachmann but I cannot remember the wheel arrangement. I really like to see the outside framed steam. Those counterweights seem to add to the action.
I love outside frame. On30 is great because you can grab HO stuff and have fun with it, but outside frame is not like that. You either find on or built it from scratch. No reworking an inside frame. Not without a LOT of work.
Oh I would agree on that. I kibash a lot of diesels and change drives etc, but a Steam locomotive is a different beast all together. Much more complex.
Asked Steve, yup, based on a CP
2:38 I see a sodor fuel tanker
YUP!! Any toy can be fun.