i love and hate that feeling every time i try to write something i hear about a trope and i'm like "wait that sounds bad. am i doing that? i need to check. right now. i do not care that it's 3 am." so basically just read your writing sometimes, it'll catch a lot of simple mistakes.
The writers like him is the second most believable reason for redeeming a villain. The 1st being "he came in the top 3 in the character popularity poll"
This is what I was thinking. The audience loving a villain has been a long time incentive to bring that villain back repeatedly and eventually rehabilitate him.
@@caballo3739 That's basically how Goku handled most opponents, Vegeta made sense from a narrative stand point. Frieza one the other hand was just straight up resurrected from hell lol. The cyborg return was already weird enough, just for him to immediately get killed by Trunks
Love how the sidekick immediately changed his tune when he found out the writer liked the villain. He knew not to fuck with eldritch gods that can decide your fate on a whim.
Also, when they're a villain, they're super powerful and intimidating. But the moment they join the good guys they become much weaker and lose some of their best abilities.
This is why Zuko from Avatar the Last Airbender was so good. The characters didn't trust him instantly, they had a good reason to work together, and it was all believable.
plus he isn’t like most shows where he does one good thing and suddenly he’s the hero now. He had to make so many difficult choices over three seasons, some good, some bad and that makes it so much more satisfying to see his redemption as we had to see him go through so much struggle in order to achieve it
@@merpleberg yeah, I loved how after he does some good things, he does some bad. There was a scene with his uncle I straight up thought would be the start to his redemption arc, but then he turns against him. They also established his inner conflict from the beginning.
Uhhh Zuko basically was a decent example of the trope that’s made fun of here. He was basically just the bad guy, he takes credit for ‘killing’ the avatar to be supreme bad guy, and then turns hero, cause he has a tragic backstory too, and is literally part of the gang and there is no consequences for him. Like I get it was a great show that we watched as a kid, but he flips from evil to good as quickly as any anime character does with equally no consequences.
no he wasn't but yall just keep repeating it like it's some mantra. don't get me wrong Zuko is an interesting character but he became "good" not because he reliased that his nation was nazis commiting genocide of others for a full century. no, the main reason he went on a good side was because he found some texts about his connection with previous avatar on the mother's side. I find it exteremly stupid
@@lt3746 yeah I did but it was long time ago. My perspective on the characters from the show changed a lot. I'm a Ukranian surviving through genocide right now, every week russia is bombing my city with 30-100 rockets. So yeah, genocide of a whole nation is too close topic to me. I cannot see character like Iroh and Zuko the same way as before.
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It's even worse when the villain tries to justify themselves acting like they have standards like "ive blown up planets, made people my slaves, and murdered innocent people, but you (insert protagonist/hero) are worse than me" like wtf nah bruh don't try to act like you have standards you're a literal serial killer who's *evil*
My personal favorite is when the villain doesn't rehabilitate and is still a major villain, but temporarily teams up with the hero gang to achieve a common goal, like escaping from captivity or defeating a common threat, and gets constantly bullied by them in the process.
I feel like the only thing that would make this work is if throughout the series he has doubt about what he has become and decides to leave whatever evil organization he was apart of and go through a non evil transformation arc
There are plenty of villains who have naturally turned good (or at least helped stop evil) that work well. 2 well-known examples being Prince Zuko in Avatar: The Last Airbender, and Vegeta (funnily enough, still a prince). The main key is that they gave the characters time to grow and accept reality. (Technically, Vegeta's whole villain-turned-good arc is still going, given certain lines from the manga I won't elaborate on in this comment for those who don't read it.)
after learning that the protagonist also had a bad childhood, the villain says "maybe we're not so different". but that actually goes to show that they're SUPER different. the protagonist suffered just as much but didnt resort to evil and hurting others and still became a good guy, while the villain did the exact opposite. lol
Eh this skit is wrong. Anyone can be redeemed realistically. But sometimes in entertainment when we hate a villain so much, it feels more satisfying to see them die. But anyone can be redeemed outside of the "writers like them" defense. Kuvira is on her path to redemption. Zaheer helped Korra when she needed it. Thanos was very compelling not because "he's evil" but he's got a messiah complex, but he truly believed he would save the universe. His determination was nearly admirable, something seen I'm heroes like Captain America. Villains just being killed off is kinda bland nowadays.
@@lorenzobaxter this is a horrible take, not anyone can just be reemed. the skit is right and he's correct to make humour about this. You can't just redeem anyone, you're the exact kind person caleb is making fun of in this video 🦔❄
To be fair Zuko never had to redeem because he didn't hurt anyone. I don't think even Avatar could have done if it Zuko killed Kitara's and Souka's parents for example.
@@rioluvo Caleb isn't making fun of types of people, Caleb is making fun of a cinema trope where bad guys are redeemed too easily.. this doesn't even imply some people are irredeemable, just that people in media are redeemed in unbelievable bs ways.. both of you misinterpreted the skit smh
this reminds me of inuyasha to a small extent. Koga is introduced as a slaughterer of children and women, but then suddenly becomes a "rival" to Inuyasha who is also their ally, and they sort of sweep that shit under the rug because he's in love with Kagome.
I hate when this happens. Especially on the scale of "The dude murdered like seventy people! FOR NO REASON" it just grinds my gears And I'm glad to know that some people feel the same- and that I'm not completely crazy
@@telphex4471 You have a good point. Personally, I think it sometimes depends on the crime and what exactly happened. (Along with how they go about redeeming themselves) Like for example I saw a comment about Zuko from Air Benders redemption arc and I really liked that But like if some guy just blew up a planet I feel like those people he killed deserve a good amount of justice But then again I played too much of crime and punishment (sherlock game) so I am a bit bias xD
Similar trope that I hate: Villain: is evil, kills for pleasure, kills heroes and innocents alike, tortures people for fun, is just generally the scum of the earth Hero: beats the villain in a fair fight and then refuses to kill them because “it makes me just like them” or something, so the villain runs off and continues to evil somewhere else. Drives me nuts. Just kill them!!!!!
This is me with that scene between Rinwell, Law, and Almeidrea in Tales of Arise. I just rolled my eyes when Law just starts to preach about not becoming the same thing as Almeidrea. Like hellooo, did he forget that she freaking committed genocide and instituted slavery? She deserved to be killed a hundred times over. *Sigh* maybe I'm getting too old for these JRPG bullshit.
@@impyrobot Frrr batman’s entire family got traumatized for life (and one of them died) because he wouldn’t finish the Joker off ... you would think he would learn his lesson after the first time but 🙄
My favorite twist on the trope is accelerator from the toaru series where the only reason he was the antagonist was because he wanted to have his name associated with fear because he was sick of hurting and killing people who challenged him in hopes of taking his title as the strongest.
There’s nothing wrong with a villain redeeming themselves and becoming an ally of the heroes. But they have to earn it. They have to work on themselves and try to be a better person. It’s an effort they have to make. It’s possible but not easy. They have to win us and the characters over.
Alternatively; domesticate the villain. The villain doesn't have to redeem themselves, just depower them and chain them to the hero so they get dragged kicking and screaming into friendship till they succome to the fact that they can't murder anymore. Less Catholic maybe but very funny.
@@gota7738 wh- I feel like this is a specific reference to something but I’m not sure. The closest thing that comes to mind if the undertale flower pot AU with flowey.
Exactly. Have them face the consequences for their actions. Make it clear that nobody's obligated to trust, forgive or even like them while they're turning over a new leaf. Have them actually *work* to atone.
Season 1: "Fool! I am going to genocide the entire human race using this new weapon that I developed from experimenting on children" Season 5: "Hey what's up buddy? Want to team up against the bigger and badder villain? How about we torture his henchmen for information? Just kidding that's so old me."
@@cristinagomez3283 people are blinded by victory, they need many defeat to realize what they was doing wrong to change the way theyre thinking. He was blinded by his father At the end he still was winning but in another way, the way his mom always knew he'll win as Being good.
Yeah, accountability is rarely found amongst villains who become good, especially the legal kind. Like, sure, people change, but if they don't take responsibility, there's no reason for other characters to believe they've changed. That being said, I'm not able to tell if villains change cuz the writer likes the character or are just bad at writing (or both). I just see things and think "man, if that were irl, they'd probably be locked up".
I think it's more likely the former, because a lot of writers will create villains without limiting their powers (like they do with heroes) thus making the villain more cool in their eyes, and then they want to use them as a good guy. Essentially, it's a really roundabout way to make a super cool, super overpowered hero without thinking about the limitations that they should have.
Ally: He was just about blow up New York! Villain: That was before Ally: Before what before we stopped you?! Villain: 😐 Nah… I didn’t think it’d get that many likes I appreciate it fam
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"He's a fan favorite, ok? We can't afford losing his appeal to the audience by removing him from the story and character pool through death" "So he just gets to live on and not die at all?" "Oh don't worry, he'll die, by losing his edgy appeal due to becoming a good guy which limits how much he can express the few things that made him liked by the audience in the first place" "Ohh, a metaphorical death then.. okay, that's a fate worse than death, I get you..."
The editing and acting is so good that I was worried for a second that Caleb was being careless filming a sequence with an unsheathed point so close to Caleb's chest.
1:19 "Before what?! Before we stopped you?!?!?! KILL HIM!!!" I love that! I can actually feel his anger, even though he's just acting! Edit: But either way, Caleb makes really good content. Man, even I'm jealous. 😂🤣
The reason villains become weaker is bc they can no longer pull out their abilities through hatred. They now have to hold back as to make sure not to hurt anyone whereas when they where villains theyd go all out no problem
I feel like Caleb could be a professional script writer for big screen movies, but he just gives that one character a reality check to make every single episode relatable
And that’s why vegeta doesn’t work. I mean does anyone not care about that arena scene? Like this is a grown man Apparently who I’m referring to is somehow lost in this sentence
@@Ttegegg what does him being grown have to do with anything? Just shitting on him to shit on him. Speaking of adults, you clearly arent one (atleast mentally) if you are mad that a youtuber is more sucessful than you...
@@brandan5708 Chill out. He's just saying that Vegeta doesn't work, and he never said that he was mad that a CZcamsr is more sucessful than him. You can't say he's a child if you aren't acting any different...
When the writer actually does it right tho, it's one of the most lit and impactful moments In the series. And it ties in so we'll with the story and adds depth to it as well.
Remember kids: There's nothing wrong with giving a villian a tragic backstory while making them an awful person and still offing them in the end. In fact that would probably make a better story than just the "oh nevermind they good now" arc.
Tch, geez... sure this comment thread is only 40 minutes old I suppose, but you'd think that maybe one of the answers would be someone would actually know an example of an anime that does do this. :p Anyways, all I can think of is like an action comedy anime like Slayers or One Punch Man, but I don't think they actually do something like that...
@@indigowendigo8165 a lot of anime ive seen have self aware moments but it’s mostly comic relief * and it’s usually just one chara breaking the fourth wall and everyone looking at them like they’re crazy
Depending on how your mileage goes, Dragon Ball is somewhat like this, with both Piccolo and Vegeta periodically reminding the others that they didn't start out as good guys and, in fact, they're only trustworthy in the sense that they formed meaningful bonds over time, because they're still very much bad guys in essence (Vegeta even more so than Piccolo, since Piccolo eventually mellowed out more and more after fusing with Nail and Kami-sama)
Oh my god ! This was my first tought. I was scrolling down the comments to see if someone mentionned him. The second he started appearing more I was confused. Didn't he kill Han ?
Pretty much Goku when he stopped Krillin from killing Vegeta. Even though he was responsible indirectly responsible for the deaths of 4 of their friends, beating up his 6 year old kid, crushing most of his bones and killing people on Earth.
"That was before." "Before what!? We stopped you?KILL HIM!!" that got me. 😂 "The writer likes him" ahh yes the greatest conversion factor to ever be used against humanity. SO MUCH HERE 👍🏿🤣👐🏿
@@jacobd1984 preach bro. bonus points if the bad guy runs off to summon an ancient horror only to get killed by it anyway and then the main characters fight it and one of the side characters die and literally everything would've been fine if only they just killed him earlier
I legit knew a guy on steam who I used to play Sea of Thieves with, and he told me that he was at a point once where he was so hungry that he actually ate cardboard to stop the hunger pains.
@@TheMinerax So all people who broke the law deserves to die? You're making it way too black and white. Guys like the one in the video definitely deserves it, but I need to die because I did drugs? Hell, I need help more than anything at that point.
Omgggg this literally is a perfect example of how Thor and Loki are smhh😂😂😂🤦🏽♂️.. the villian Caleb had the exact facial expression of how LOKI be looking when he knows his guilty of killing ppl intentionally😭😭.
"He's a villain! Why would you wanna trust him?"
"Because the writer likes him"
This one made me rethink like 5 of my villains in 1 second
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@@isaacm7934 fax and Annie
Literally miranjo in ousama ranking
i love and hate that feeling
every time i try to write something i hear about a trope and i'm like "wait that sounds bad. am i doing that? i need to check. right now. i do not care that it's 3 am."
so basically just read your writing sometimes, it'll catch a lot of simple mistakes.
The writers like him is the second most believable reason for redeeming a villain. The 1st being "he came in the top 3 in the character popularity poll"
Well, to be fair, that's why the writers like him :-)
This is what I was thinking. The audience loving a villain has been a long time incentive to bring that villain back repeatedly and eventually rehabilitate him.
Itachi
@@nbucwa6621 Vegeta...Frieza...shit man you're right.
@@caballo3739 That's basically how Goku handled most opponents, Vegeta made sense from a narrative stand point.
Frieza one the other hand was just straight up resurrected from hell lol. The cyborg return was already weird enough, just for him to immediately get killed by Trunks
Love how the sidekick immediately changed his tune when he found out the writer liked the villain.
He knew not to fuck with eldritch gods that can decide your fate on a whim.
He’ll end up like yamcha if he’s not careful
@@casshernsins8333 Nah more like Chiaotzu
@@mindlessincessancebro yeah at least Yamcha gets screen time
@@pamtheman5748 Yeah, just blows up off-screen
More like the writer decided he was now okay with the villain joining. 😂
I love the delivery of "the writer likes him"
as in, "if you don't straighten up right now, *you're* the one who's going to get killed off"
Kinda like in ONE
Or you’ll become a Yamcha or a Kiba…
If that was the implication, then I missed it. The only thing that would make this video better is if that was made more obvious.
@@clyax113you mean you didn't notice how the previously very angry character straightened up and became polite and friendly extremely suddenly?
@@thetheory6159 I noticed that, but I didn't get why. Why the explanation of "the writer likes him" means that it is a warning was unclear.
Also, when they're a villain, they're super powerful and intimidating. But the moment they join the good guys they become much weaker and lose some of their best abilities.
I feel like that with Jiren in dragonball heroes. Teamed up with Goku and became ASS!
Usually because it's being evil that gave them their powers
@@olliegass that’s not even canon
@@olliegass yea literally its not canon, plus the stronger the mc the stronger the villain, yamcha was op at first than yea no shit he's a nub now
@@Amneso I know it’s not but still 🤷🏾♂️
This is why Zuko from Avatar the Last Airbender was so good. The characters didn't trust him instantly, they had a good reason to work together, and it was all believable.
It even lead to character development for the whole gang too instead of just the villain. Still one of the best written shows around.
plus he isn’t like most shows where he does one good thing and suddenly he’s the hero now. He had to make so many difficult choices over three seasons, some good, some bad and that makes it so much more satisfying to see his redemption as we had to see him go through so much struggle in order to achieve it
still the greatest redemption arc in fictional history
@@merpleberg yeah, I loved how after he does some good things, he does some bad. There was a scene with his uncle I straight up thought would be the start to his redemption arc, but then he turns against him. They also established his inner conflict from the beginning.
Uhhh Zuko basically was a decent example of the trope that’s made fun of here.
He was basically just the bad guy, he takes credit for ‘killing’ the avatar to be supreme bad guy, and then turns hero, cause he has a tragic backstory too, and is literally part of the gang and there is no consequences for him. Like I get it was a great show that we watched as a kid, but he flips from evil to good as quickly as any anime character does with equally no consequences.
"Perhaps we've treated you too harshly...You are now GANG." Real talk, Caleb's writing for these skits has been getting better. God bless this man.
Zuko is probably one of the best examples of making a villain good done well
He really wasn’t, though.
no he wasn't but yall just keep repeating it like it's some mantra. don't get me wrong Zuko is an interesting character but he became "good" not because he reliased that his nation was nazis commiting genocide of others for a full century. no, the main reason he went on a good side was because he found some texts about his connection with previous avatar on the mother's side. I find it exteremly stupid
@@Avocado_san bro did you even watch the show lol
@@lt3746 yeah I did but it was long time ago. My perspective on the characters from the show changed a lot. I'm a Ukranian surviving through genocide right now, every week russia is bombing my city with 30-100 rockets. So yeah, genocide of a whole nation is too close topic to me. I cannot see character like Iroh and Zuko the same way as before.
@@Avocado_san Would it help you to know that neither Iroh nor Zuko were alive during the Air nomad genocide?
"I had to eat cardboard boxes to fight the hunger"
"Amazon?"
"FedEx"
"Daamn"
That part killed me 💀
I think it’s a gyutaro reference
I keep replaying that part lol
FedEx ?
Well looks like that kept him Fed...
@@Lordylen lmao
Literally came to the comments looking for this one 😂 i was rollin
‘You are now ✨gang✨’ 💀
Bread 👍
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Had me dead the way he said it 😂😂😂
g a n g
The villain’s face when side character was lamenting on why the protagonist should kill him was like “damn I should really die”😂😂😂
Villain: "Now that I'm a good guy, my powers/strength gets slightly nerfed!"
"You are now, *gang."*
The delivery on that line is strangely enjoyable.
This man Caleb’s cadence is always flawless but that line right there is just beyond 😂😂😂
Exaclty🫡
He said that so the writer didn't erase him
Thats gonna be me line whenever i make a new friend 😂
I'm saying
"The writer likes him, bro."
That line made this even better, because it is so true in so many cases. lol.
Sasuke be like
Fax
*"Understandable, have a good day."*
This is exactly what happened with Reiner Braun in AOT
That happened with piccolo in dragon ball
I hate how writers do that, after they committed uncountable amount of unspeakable crimes
It's even worse when the villain tries to justify themselves acting like they have standards like "ive blown up planets, made people my slaves, and murdered innocent people, but you (insert protagonist/hero) are worse than me" like wtf nah bruh don't try to act like you have standards you're a literal serial killer who's *evil*
attack on titan final season said what
My personal favorite is when the villain doesn't rehabilitate and is still a major villain, but temporarily teams up with the hero gang to achieve a common goal, like escaping from captivity or defeating a common threat, and gets constantly bullied by them in the process.
Loki!
Lord Garmadon in the beginning of Ninjago lol
Dr eggman robotnik ?
Jack Spicer from Xioalin Showdown
"I only killed millions of people bc my parents were mean" says most villians
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The Joker basically
These bots all up IN YO replies lmaoooo
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_”HE CUT OFF MY FOOT ‼️‼️”_ he says whilst standing and walks at the end lmao
amazing as always lol
yes
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That's how i be tho in some shows lol
@@randomaccount2448 a real one fr
@THIS you’re so cool
0:29 To be fair, that Vergil teleport is probably one of the scariest things I’ve seen in Caleb’s vids. I’d want to befriend him too.
You can always tell when Caleb is particularly pissed off about something in fiction by how he delivers the lines
Yep. That’s how it works. Until the writer decides, “You know what would be fun to write and painful for my characters/audience?”
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@@randomaccount2448 someone smarter than me should do that
“So perhaps we’ve treated you too harshly please accept my humblest apologies, you are now ✨GANG✨ 😌👌”
Absolutely amazing 👏🏾
Thought he said: “You are now gay” which somehow also fits gsacvfshd
@@utopes I heard that as well
He really hit the *gang* in *gang*
Dedddd
That's really how it be.
I feel like the only thing that would make this work is if throughout the series he has doubt about what he has become and decides to leave whatever evil organization he was apart of and go through a non evil transformation arc
There are plenty of villains who have naturally turned good (or at least helped stop evil) that work well. 2 well-known examples being Prince Zuko in Avatar: The Last Airbender, and Vegeta (funnily enough, still a prince). The main key is that they gave the characters time to grow and accept reality. (Technically, Vegeta's whole villain-turned-good arc is still going, given certain lines from the manga I won't elaborate on in this comment for those who don't read it.)
0:57 Know they tasted bad
after learning that the protagonist also had a bad childhood, the villain says "maybe we're not so different". but that actually goes to show that they're SUPER different. the protagonist suffered just as much but didnt resort to evil and hurting others and still became a good guy, while the villain did the exact opposite. lol
fucking exactly
That's actually incredibly insightful, and I really appreciate you posting this.
"We're not so different you and I" is my least favorite line in all of media and I always roll my eyes when I hear it.
@@theunchartedwolf9480
lol me too tbh
Yeah, should be "We weren't so different, you and I."
That jump was almost like a jumpscare so I threw my phone because I wasn't expecting that hahah
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I choked on my food when that jump scare happened lol
I gufaw'd laughed, for real!
@THIS can't believe I fell for that
@THIS It's finally here
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I like how his bomb detonator is just a Switch Joy Con.
Ben 10 writers pretending a preteen Kevin didn’t try to cause a train crash so he could go through and rob all the corpses in his very first episode.
“And put him in the hospital for weeks-HE CUT OFF MY FOOT”
That cadence was fantastic.
The foot being cut off gave him a power up anyway! So lets just let bygones be bygones
It wasn't now calm down and just enjoy the skit
@@calvinjohnson2750 Are you alright, man? Like I’m chill with the disagreement, but that just seems a little hostile
@@calvinjohnson2750 you mad for what
@@calvinjohnson2750 why are you like this man
I honestly like how the Villian was hiding a smirk when one of the protagonists mentioned their turtle
@ApplesAreFun I'm not a bot
It's the snake story all over again but Calebcity
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@fodebic5253 bot
@@kittydemonoverkill lol I'm real, and you're probably not a kitty neither a demon
You are now ✨️*gang*✨ 🫡
I don't know why, but I love that line so much💀
“Please accept my humblest apologies, you are now *gang”*
Zuko is probably one of the only characters I've seen change properly with proper reasoning, redemption and accountability for his actions. 🦔❄
when i was a kid, Zuko turning good blew my mind so hard that now my standards for redemption arcs are high af
Eh this skit is wrong. Anyone can be redeemed realistically. But sometimes in entertainment when we hate a villain so much, it feels more satisfying to see them die. But anyone can be redeemed outside of the "writers like them" defense. Kuvira is on her path to redemption. Zaheer helped Korra when she needed it. Thanos was very compelling not because "he's evil" but he's got a messiah complex, but he truly believed he would save the universe. His determination was nearly admirable, something seen I'm heroes like Captain America. Villains just being killed off is kinda bland nowadays.
@@lorenzobaxter this is a horrible take, not anyone can just be reemed. the skit is right and he's correct to make humour about this. You can't just redeem anyone, you're the exact kind person caleb is making fun of in this video 🦔❄
To be fair Zuko never had to redeem because he didn't hurt anyone. I don't think even Avatar could have done if it Zuko killed Kitara's and Souka's parents for example.
@@rioluvo Caleb isn't making fun of types of people, Caleb is making fun of a cinema trope where bad guys are redeemed too easily.. this doesn't even imply some people are irredeemable, just that people in media are redeemed in unbelievable bs ways.. both of you misinterpreted the skit smh
0:29 scared the shit out of me
Same
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Shwerpyy!!!
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I read this comment and still got scared. 😭
"Fed-Ex...DAMN" LMAO🤣🤣
this reminds me of inuyasha to a small extent. Koga is introduced as a slaughterer of children and women, but then suddenly becomes a "rival" to Inuyasha who is also their ally, and they sort of sweep that shit under the rug because he's in love with Kagome.
"I had to eat cardboard boxes to fight off the hunger"
"Amazon?"
"Fed-ex"
"Damn"
This speaks to me on a personal level it's hysterical
fedex boxes are hard
@Energy no one cares
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"The writer likes him, bro"
Calab: "so perhaps we've treated you too harshly"
Had me rollin🤣🤣
259 likes, well damn, what kinda black magic?
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I want to believe he change his mind about it cause he knows if he argues to the writer he’ll get his ass axed in the next chapter.
260 now :)
villian: *tries to blow up the earth*
later: i was just trying to make you proud of me
Now the former sidekick becomes the villain, and the hero and former villain becomes the duo who solve crimes and fight their new nemesis.
I hate when this happens. Especially on the scale of "The dude murdered like seventy people! FOR NO REASON" it just grinds my gears
And I'm glad to know that some people feel the same- and that I'm not completely crazy
In general I agree with you, but I feel like if the writers good enough it can work out
Vegeta pretty much. Goku and the other trusted him instantly. He would have killed all of them regardlessly if he didn’t need help to fight Frieza
@@telphex4471 You have a good point. Personally, I think it sometimes depends on the crime and what exactly happened. (Along with how they go about redeeming themselves) Like for example I saw a comment about Zuko from Air Benders redemption arc and I really liked that
But like if some guy just blew up a planet I feel like those people he killed deserve a good amount of justice
But then again I played too much of crime and punishment (sherlock game) so I am a bit bias xD
Giving me Finn vibes from that show ster reviewed
Lol Loki killed so many people in the first couple marvel movies. People seem to forget that.
Similar trope that I hate:
Villain: is evil, kills for pleasure, kills heroes and innocents alike, tortures people for fun, is just generally the scum of the earth
Hero: beats the villain in a fair fight and then refuses to kill them because “it makes me just like them” or something, so the villain runs off and continues to evil somewhere else.
Drives me nuts. Just kill them!!!!!
And then some people consuming that media internalize that as actual morality
yeah that's why i just can't stand batman. after the first time he beats joker and lets him get away scott free every victim is batmans fault lol
@@iainknight2767 fr if batman really couldn't get his hands dirty get the commissioner or someone to take care of the Joker for good
This is me with that scene between Rinwell, Law, and Almeidrea in Tales of Arise. I just rolled my eyes when Law just starts to preach about not becoming the same thing as Almeidrea. Like hellooo, did he forget that she freaking committed genocide and instituted slavery? She deserved to be killed a hundred times over. *Sigh* maybe I'm getting too old for these JRPG bullshit.
@@impyrobot Frrr batman’s entire family got traumatized for life (and one of them died) because he wouldn’t finish the Joker off ... you would think he would learn his lesson after the first time but 🙄
My favorite twist on the trope is accelerator from the toaru series where the only reason he was the antagonist was because he wanted to have his name associated with fear because he was sick of hurting and killing people who challenged him in hopes of taking his title as the strongest.
1:37
" He killed your dog! By locking it in a kettle and BURNING HER! "
Did nobody else get DIO vibes from that or is it just me?
No your not the only one
same and i dont know why. i havent even watched jojo
There’s nothing wrong with a villain redeeming themselves and becoming an ally of the heroes. But they have to earn it. They have to work on themselves and try to be a better person. It’s an effort they have to make. It’s possible but not easy. They have to win us and the characters over.
Alternatively; domesticate the villain. The villain doesn't have to redeem themselves, just depower them and chain them to the hero so they get dragged kicking and screaming into friendship till they succome to the fact that they can't murder anymore. Less Catholic maybe but very funny.
Prime example is Vegeta went from a Blood thirsty Saiyan that only lusted for power, to a man that puts his family first before anything
Not if they killed your dog that's an immediate elimination.
@@gota7738 wh- I feel like this is a specific reference to something but I’m not sure. The closest thing that comes to mind if the undertale flower pot AU with flowey.
Exactly. Have them face the consequences for their actions. Make it clear that nobody's obligated to trust, forgive or even like them while they're turning over a new leaf. Have them actually *work* to atone.
Season 1: "Fool! I am going to genocide the entire human race using this new weapon that I developed from experimenting on children"
Season 5: "Hey what's up buddy? Want to team up against the bigger and badder villain? How about we torture his henchmen for information? Just kidding that's so old me."
Piccolo and Vegeta in a nutshell.
You Literally just described Attack on Titan word for word, but put season 4 over season 5
@@Real_Genji and then reverse them
Fast and Furious in a nutshell.
That literraly the nonsense that aot season 4 is
Best fake-out I’ve seen in a while 😂😂😂
0:23
I barely had time to breath or blink for that sudden cut lunge. Damn😭
I like how the villain was so confident that he won, and he IMMEDIATELY GOT JUMPED BY THIS MAN.
When he winning, he all big and bad, but when he losing, all of a sudden he switches up his attitude.
@@cristinagomez3283 people are blinded by victory, they need many defeat to realize what they was doing wrong to change the way theyre thinking. He was blinded by his father
At the end he still was winning but in another way, the way his mom always knew he'll win as
Being good.
@@cheesymarshmellows the therapist's answer
“Thats very sma- GEEHHH”
"We're not so different."
"Uh, dude, we're totally different. We both had it hard, but you CHOSE to be an asshole."
For real
reiner
Uh uh, the protagonist had FRIENDSHIP to keep him grounded.
@@pearmint308 Reiner didn't know he was doing the bad thing doe, he was brainwashed.
@@pearmint308 You gotta watch the 4th season homie
Injustice Harley Quinn be like:
The delivery on the last line is just too perfect that I forgot to breathe.
Yeah, accountability is rarely found amongst villains who become good, especially the legal kind. Like, sure, people change, but if they don't take responsibility, there's no reason for other characters to believe they've changed. That being said, I'm not able to tell if villains change cuz the writer likes the character or are just bad at writing (or both). I just see things and think "man, if that were irl, they'd probably be locked up".
jack Me myself make some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb City
I think it's more likely the former, because a lot of writers will create villains without limiting their powers (like they do with heroes) thus making the villain more cool in their eyes, and then they want to use them as a good guy.
Essentially, it's a really roundabout way to make a super cool, super overpowered hero without thinking about the limitations that they should have.
Most villains falling in the trope of heel-face turn are superhuman and not bound to regular social rules anyway.
Agreed because if you change or apologize but don't thank accountability and responsibility for your actions then your apology or change means nought
@@26mic hey I'm glad to see you here
Ally: He was just about blow up New York!
Villain: That was before
Ally: Before what before we stopped you?!
Villain: 😐
Nah… I didn’t think it’d get that many likes
I appreciate it fam
The villain acting like he the sane one lmao
I love how the detonator is a joy con. Btw your villain voice is too good
I like to think logical Caleb did it out of fear as long as the writer doesn't worry about upsetting the fans they could do whatever they want
Reminds me how Goku makes all the villains his friends 😂
Hey howieazy
Yo
No he didn't, well not originally. Super shouldn't even count
@@dionlackey798 ????? Have you not even watch 1 episode of dragon ball
@@dionlackey798 Yamcha, Tien, Piccolo???
The writer liked him so much the side character walked with 1 foot to help him.
I make some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb dawg
Hello everyone, I create short comedy skits and would greatly appreciate it if y'all could spare a minute and lmk what you think of one. Thanks for your time and help
Gonna be the first reply here that ain't a bot
0:08 see the writing of the jacket - "HERE FOR THE INTERVIEW" 🤣 Reminds the super hero interview.
I can’t believe he put the extra piece on the switch controller just for this sketch. That is *never* coming back off
"He's a fan favorite, ok? We can't afford losing his appeal to the audience by removing him from the story and character pool through death"
"So he just gets to live on and not die at all?"
"Oh don't worry, he'll die, by losing his edgy appeal due to becoming a good guy which limits how much he can express the few things that made him liked by the audience in the first place"
"Ohh, a metaphorical death then.. okay, that's a fate worse than death, I get you..."
He will be relegated to comedic idiot from now on, forever remembered as the guy who was cool for 1 season then slowly forgotten.
Frieza was actually revived well in the tournament of power. Still evil, amazing. Take notice kirby
@@zawardo2229 kirby? the hell you using kirby as a bad example for?
@@xanious3759 Just cause like every villain in that becomes a good guy
Smells like Vegeta but nobody is gonna wanna admit it cuz he’s gotten too popular >.>
The editing and acting is so good that I was worried for a second that Caleb was being careless filming a sequence with an unsheathed point so close to Caleb's chest.
Wait i just realized
Same lol
The movie magic is real!
@@orangenostril
It tricked the part of my brain just long enough for it to say "well, that's a bad idea!" Followed by, "Wait that's dumb as shit."
Facts 😂
“HE CUT OFF MY FOOT!!!”😂🤣😂🤣😂💀
Bakugo after a literal lifetime of being an asshole to the protag for seemingly no reason at all:
1:19 "Before what?! Before we stopped you?!?!?! KILL HIM!!!"
I love that! I can actually feel his anger, even though he's just acting!
Edit: But either way, Caleb makes really good content. Man, even I'm jealous. 😂🤣
I feel like Caleb is an expert at really putting himself in the moment, it's what makes his acting seem so genuine
The acting you mean?
He's channeling his anger from all the poor redemption arcs he's had to watch.
Bro. Dat ain't acting dis real life. Caleb and Donald saved New York City.
Cringe
“Best way to take out/depower the villain is to make them an ally” -every video game with playable bosses ever
Except Devil May Cry
Literally depower though. Playable bosses are hardly ever as powerful.
@@user-bv3ok2re3smost bosses become your weapon in that game lol
Vergil
Faaaacts them bosses be chopping u up. And the second they're a good guy, they get smacked in 3 hits
“I ate cardboard boxes to fight the hunger.”
“Amazon?”
“FedEx.”
“Damn.”
The reason villains become weaker is bc they can no longer pull out their abilities through hatred. They now have to hold back as to make sure not to hurt anyone whereas when they where villains theyd go all out no problem
Now referring to people as 'gang' and 'not gang' respectively
@@randomaccount2448 ? Me myself make some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb City
why am i finding you in every non keyboard comment section now
funny keyboard man
you're gang
Ngl I’m tryna make it can y’all check my music out and lmk what y’all think I’m tryna build a genuine fanbase?
I feel like Caleb could be a professional script writer for big screen movies, but he just gives that one character a reality check to make every single episode relatable
And that’s why vegeta doesn’t work. I mean does anyone not care about that arena scene? Like this is a grown man
Apparently who I’m referring to is somehow lost in this sentence
@@Ttegegg grown man making his bank then ur whole family
@@nero7.171 facts
@@Ttegegg what does him being grown have to do with anything? Just shitting on him to shit on him. Speaking of adults, you clearly arent one (atleast mentally) if you are mad that a youtuber is more sucessful than you...
@@brandan5708 Chill out. He's just saying that Vegeta doesn't work, and he never said that he was mad that a CZcamsr is more sucessful than him. You can't say he's a child if you aren't acting any different...
It's a fast and furious situation almost all bad guys or enemies become family 😂😂
"HE CUT OF MY FOOT" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
When the writer actually does it right tho, it's one of the most lit and impactful moments In the series.
And it ties in so we'll with the story and adds depth to it as well.
Zuko is honestly the gold standard
Zuko moment
The villain usually gets nerfed when they become companions.
I'm guessing your talking about emo fire boy
@@nvcomics The difference is that Zuko has yet to murder someone.
Remember kids: There's nothing wrong with giving a villian a tragic backstory while making them an awful person and still offing them in the end. In fact that would probably make a better story than just the "oh nevermind they good now" arc.
That's exactly what happened to the Nowhere King in Centaurworld.
@@wind_scratch8387 Funny, that's actually what I was thinking about when I was typing this
@@themulchmuncher1111 Oh cool😎
Demon slayer kinda this right
@@daleknewvegas45 yeah and no because they always kill the demons regardless
I love the Lenarr merch casually supporting the homies is real af
Negan from Walking Dead is good example of this. Great skit.
That blade looked sharp af and that backstory was so accurate 😂
I be making some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb broddie
Not a rick roll czcams.com/video/tU0XW6Rvbm0/video.html
Facts
I make skits btw
I would pay serious money to see a self aware show that was written like this
I make some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb bro
Not a rick roll czcams.com/video/tU0XW6Rvbm0/video.html
Tch, geez... sure this comment thread is only 40 minutes old I suppose, but you'd think that maybe one of the answers would be someone would actually know an example of an anime that does do this. :p
Anyways, all I can think of is like an action comedy anime like Slayers or One Punch Man, but I don't think they actually do something like that...
@@indigowendigo8165 a lot of anime ive seen have self aware moments but it’s mostly comic relief
* and it’s usually just one chara breaking the fourth wall and everyone looking at them like they’re crazy
Depending on how your mileage goes, Dragon Ball is somewhat like this, with both Piccolo and Vegeta periodically reminding the others that they didn't start out as good guys and, in fact, they're only trustworthy in the sense that they formed meaningful bonds over time, because they're still very much bad guys in essence (Vegeta even more so than Piccolo, since Piccolo eventually mellowed out more and more after fusing with Nail and Kami-sama)
I work for Amazon and the eating cardboard bixes thing got me, lmao
That sword was unbelievably beautiful
Basically Jason Statham in Fast and Furious lol.
Oh my god ! This was my first tought. I was scrolling down the comments to see if someone mentionned him. The second he started appearing more I was confused. Didn't he kill Han ?
And Vegeta
@@omni_x_dragon he atleast had to work for it.
Dude you are so spot on, if not him, then his brother since that dude's men killed gal gadot
Pretty much Goku when he stopped Krillin from killing Vegeta. Even though he was responsible indirectly responsible for the deaths of 4 of their friends, beating up his 6 year old kid, crushing most of his bones and killing people on Earth.
"That was before."
"Before what!? We stopped you?KILL HIM!!"
that got me. 😂
"The writer likes him" ahh yes the greatest conversion factor to ever be used against humanity.
SO MUCH HERE 👍🏿🤣👐🏿
Because the writer likes him bro! So true 😂
Zuko was one of the only villian redemption arcs that actually made sense. Mainly because they had been planning it out since season 1.
The fact these videos are so factual makes this a hundred times funnier
I be making some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb fam
I be making some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb homie
Basic ass like-farming comment
@@saltator8565 Yeah ok. So me giving my opinion is like farming. Sure man
@@llednyl660 Shut up and come back with an original thought
Only thing you left out is a line where the main character goes “if I kill him ill be just as bad as him”
I never completely agreed with that stance, depends on the enemy in question.
"If you kill me, you'll be no better than me!"
"I can live with that." - Mighty Max (1993), Season 1, Episode 7
More shows need to be like Mighty Max.
Batman's Moral Code.exe
I can’t stand that trope. No dude, killing a mass murderer does not make you just as bad as him.
@@jacobd1984 preach bro. bonus points if the bad guy runs off to summon an ancient horror only to get killed by it anyway and then the main characters fight it and one of the side characters die and literally everything would've been fine if only they just killed him earlier
The writer is the single most powerful force in any universe.
I legit knew a guy on steam who I used to play Sea of Thieves with, and he told me that he was at a point once where he was so hungry that he actually ate cardboard to stop the hunger pains.
Hero’s greatest weapon: Plot Armor
Villain’s greatest weapon: Likability
yur Me myself make some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb City
And relatability plus flawed or conflicted villain syndrome
Man went from " I'll destroy your city " to " I have noone or anything growing up.
The writer likes him line had me dead 😭😭
I make some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb kuz
"You are now gang"
I will be using this now
My man's was holding a JOY-CON as a remote detonator 💀
“He just needed someone to talk to. That was it.” Is something you can say for some known villains that are going through it 😔
In elementary my best friend was a bully. I befriended her. She just needed someone to talk to!!!
Wtf? Are you serious? They all deserve to " do not live" in a most painful way possible
@@TheMinerax So all people who broke the law deserves to die? You're making it way too black and white. Guys like the one in the video definitely deserves it, but I need to die because I did drugs? Hell, I need help more than anything at that point.
@@SilkyLew Omg! You did drugs?!?!? GUILLOTINE! and GUILLOTINE for the executioner. Guillotines all around.
@@MarshC I mean when you think about it, the executioner is a state sanctioned killer so wouldn't that make him a murderer too? GUILLOTINE.
Caleb's villain voice is just perfect, he nails the condescending superiority most anime and cartoon villains have.
Omgggg this literally is a perfect example of how Thor and Loki are smhh😂😂😂🤦🏽♂️.. the villian Caleb had the exact facial expression of how LOKI be looking when he knows his guilty of killing ppl intentionally😭😭.
"The writer likes him"
Group: "Alright, welcome aboard."
The villain can do anything and the hero will still be like:"Everybody deserves a second chance"
huh I make some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb
Spoiler
Basically what happens in ranking of kings, dumb asf
I love how his eyes are always looking in the right direction. Must take a lot of hard work to enact these all by himself
Me myself make some entertaining videos' as well exactly like Caleb City
what ever do you mean, these are all his twins and or clones
@@laceylopp7039 they are his twin's clones
@@laceylopp7039 so racist! They just black not all black people look the same!!
@@dvm7005 Ikr. Like not every black person looks the same smh my head it was clearly other actors.
The whole "my life was also hard but I didn't turn out to be a Villanova and took a better path" reminds me of Obito and kakashi
The meta twist at the end... *Chef kiss* Perfection!