The Uk's Cheapest Running And Driving Alfa Romeo Brera
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- čas přidán 19. 12. 2019
- Picked up this cracking motor. lets see whats wrong with it.
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I like this types of videos where you buy cheap alfas and try to save them
thanks
Brera is still so beautiful. Incredibly good looking car and future proof design.
very good looking cars.
I bought this car today, from a guy in Manchester. Drives well, hardly done any miles since this video, was parked up for past 2 years. Gave it a good machine polish and is looking good.
Awesome. Glad it's still going.
@@ItaliaAutos it drives really good with plenty of power. Pleased with the purchase, I also have a remapped Mito cloverleaf, love Alfa’s.
I’ve got a 2010 Brera TBI with 132,000 miles and it runs beautifully. I’ll be keeping it long term.
Remember to change often engine oil. Oil and filter are cheap from ebay. You can do it yourself - it is easy.
I love the Brera, fantastic looking car in my eyes, and pretty solid in reliability terms, in the diesels at least. A friend of mine had one, he bought it as an ex-demo and ran it past 250,000 miles, largely on the continent, without any breakdowns and not much in the way of work beyond routine servicing. It did have a taste for rear springs, needing, on average, one a year but he found the front wishbones typically lasted about 5 years, so around 100,000 miles, before needing attention. Surprisingly, with his car being the 2.4 diesel, it never needed the crank pulley replaced and was still running on the item it had when he bought it (who knows if it had gone while it was a demo, it was an Alfa so it's possible) when it got written off by being rear ended by a Sprinter ambulance. He's now got a new Giulietta, which is rapidly approaching 100,000 miles with little issue, though it didn't start too well, spending more time at the dealer than it did on the road in the first 6 months...
I was expecting massive rust. But the oil leak might have helped with the rust-proofing :) . Probably lots of pressure washing, a bit of media blasting, new bushes, few suspension bits and chassis is sorted
I enjoyed watching this video a lot! Great work!
Thanks for watching
Nice video, since i have a alfa 159 i recently discovered your channel and i love it !
good stuff thanks for watching.
When I get a Alfa.. Ino where I'll be taking it for repairs.. Good vid and the man knows what he's talking about 👍
Cheers thanks for watching.
I'm after one of these, out of all the videos I clicked, i click yours. To find you literally around the corner!!
Nice. Yeah only in bloxwich
@@ItaliaAutos Pretty crazy, no more then a 5min drive away. I'm interested in a Brera or GT, if you're selling one or have any advice for me I'd really appreciate it!
@@callumworley404 ive done a buyers guide on the brera
Just gave it a watch, thankyou! Do you ever sell any Breras or GT's?
@@callumworley404 the black one will be for sale eventually but its a way from being ready
Definitely worth saving that! There’s far worse cars out there. I imagine it would look good after a decent clean too
Hopefully see it done up in the next episode in a few weeks
I have a mate who recently bought a Brera nearly identical to this one but with only 130k miles.
Look after a car and it'll last you a very long time. It's a shame almost nobody in the UK knows how/can be arsed to do that.
Brilliant work as always Neil, I love these kind of rescue videos.
"Look after a car and it'll last you a very long time." That is some generic hogwash. Some cars are just plainly ureliable.
@@worldhello1234 'Look after' means pre-empting known issues. All cars have their foibles and weak spots, it's knowing about them and guarding against them that differentiates a bad owner from a good one, even if that means using the car differently.
Very nice car. To little profit but good job. I changed in my car rear springs-shock absorbers, dpf and water pump with timing belt. Now i know that vas easy jobs.
Got one of these ... Beautiful car and very misunderstood.. particularly the 2.4 diesel which I have.
Not a sports car but a fantastic GT car .. did 500 miles last weekend in mine and with those seats so comfortable .. economical too
Definitely go for it. At that price, cleaned up and polished it'll find a buyer for sure! Breras and 159s are massively underrated and undervalued cars, I reckon. In terms of style for your buck, nothing comes close. I own a 159Ti 2.4 QTronic, and I love it. Well, apart from the shocking fuel consumption around town (probably 20mpg top whack). I'm so jealous of UK second hand car prices. So low! Here in France you could expect to pay 3-4 times the UK price. Second hand cars seems to be way overpriced on the Continent.
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People in UK are very snobby when it comes to cars, if its over 5 years old its pretty much lost all its value...also in UK people dont look after their cars, I’ve bought lots of used cars over the years and every time is a case of make a long list of parts that are either broken or missing!
The main reason for higher prices in western EU is because of the eastern EU countries. I am from Romania but it is the same all across the region. There is a whole industry built around fixing/selling/braking for parts imported second-hand cars.The majority of new car sales are from company purchases. Very few people here buy new cars because it's way more cheaper to fix them here than in IT\FR\GER. With the UK being right hand drive the only cars that make it here are for parts only so the demand for those is much lower and this (i think) explains the ridiculous second-hand car prices in the UK .
@@sarahwebster8927 I think it's also due to people being more willing to use finance deals and less willing to pay over £10k cash. If you buy a 2nd hand car from a dealer and need finance they charge 18-20%APR in which case a new car will end up cheaper or almost the same.
Agreed on all replied, still stands that people in UK treat their cars like shit. Sad.
Customers get too obsessed with mileage, people seem to think when a car reaches 100k+ miles it's going to explode but the reality is cars with high mileage are generally running at optimum temperatures etc.
they sure do. in america its all about history not mileage.
love it trying to save up money so I can get alfa Brera myself
it just magically pulled me that I need to get alfa the Brera for in condition that is in my favour or the alfa 159 I feel like one of those is the car I have to own :D
I felt the same at the launch of the brera at a hotel with the cloverleaf club, I drove the 3.2 the sound was superb but felt like it weighed the same as the moon lol .
As said before the engines have let the car down, i should have bought the spider for what use the back seats are .
I just bought a 2019 Gulia Quadrifoglio for my wife and she loves it I love it too drive an Audi RS6 AVANT and the Alfa is just as fast and it comes fully loaded being the Cloverleaf ☘☘ awesome car ....
As only 24 thousand brera's were built I would save it! There will come a point in the market these become rare! What happens when a car is rare, the price goes up! I have the 3.2 Qtronic version
I have that one as well, i am even restoring it at the moment
what a car... in spain there arent 3.2 busso, so qtronic would be imposible to find out, take care of that jewel!
Considering its mileage and comparatively minor faults it seems too nice to simply part it out. Fix it and resell it. Use it as a courtesy car. But don't dismantle it.
will be with its new owner in no time i bet.
Bravo, ottima scelta! 👍🏻
Subscribed!... you might have a new customer! My Brera needs a once over too.
yeah no worries just give me a bell and ill book you in. thanks for watching.
I enjoy vids like this, even though I've no intention buying one of these. It'll probably make me have a look on autotrader though. Also makes me rethink high mile cars...
Neil nice video fix it up drives well dobt forget the spring lol ...must say it goes well needs a clean inside nice wax outside ither than that good proper car Regards Ryno from S.A wish we hqd a mechanic like u in S.A off all the Alfa youtubers i watch u the best job well done
Great video as always!
Would be great if you could show the tail light sealing. Foggy tail lights are common on these cars.
I made holes on mine but did not work and now I'm thinking of buying new ones.
Will see what I get to fix in the next episode
Great stuff!
thanks for watching.
Nice job mate . I've just subscribe your channel
Thanks for watching and subscribing
Hi,
First thanks for the videos, they are indeed very useful !!!!!!!!
I have a question regarding the same crank pulley.
Mine has gone and had it replaced.
The fun fact is that my mechanic, even though I told him to change the timing belt/related he did not do it, however he charged me quite the same amount of money for the belt replacement.
This is annoying cause now I'd have to spend the same to do the work he was already there for.
I was curious now how much you are charging for replacing the same part, only the pulley.
I'm curious to see if I've been scammed or not.
Thanks and keep up the good work
I had a 159 Ti which was also a great design. Had to get rid in 2018 as the power steering pump melted for some weird reason and set the car on fire... Was only nine years old and spent thousands on it! Oh how I miss it.
Ouch not good,
Definitely worth saving. The Brera is a future classic and for under £2k, it's a bargain. The engine should be good for another 150,000 miles if it's taken care of.
cheers thanks for watching
No reason to be scared of the high mileage. My '11 Giulietta 1.6JTDm has done 327.000 km now and still going strong, single issue was a cracked EGR cooler.
Love this kind of format of your videos, very interesting!
i am thinking of getting it with 2.2 JTS as my second car to my 156
une jolie voiture qui mérite une attention particulière.
It seems to run pretty good for the mileage, underneath also seems to look good, no dried out rubbers, a little rusty, but not rotten out. I would say save it. I dont understand why people are afraid of high mileage, it seems that it is technically a good maintained car, and it is a diesel, so it should go another 200.000 mile with ease. A friend of mine had a 159 1.9 JTD, it had 620.00 kilometers on it, and still runs and drives good.
Just watched the video it was great hope you saved it. I used to have a 156 that I bought for £750 obviously had some problems but I loved it, I'm currently driving a volvo 1.6 diesel drive, but would love to buy a brera in the future to love and cherish and have as my everyday car, would prefer a diesel any tips or advice would be great. 👍🏻
I'm very interested in the air bag light on ..mine is too. specially the wiring in the seat
Fix it! Sounds really lovely and it's still a beautiful car. It would be sinful to break it.
im going to try. will have another update in jan.
I’m a bit late seeing this video I hope you saved the car Brera’s are a beautiful looking car 👍
There's a follow up video
My 159 1.9 jtd 370000 km and yet decent! I have seen one with 650000 km and the engine was original, the problem is the rest ofthe components but you can easily find second hand parts
Good stuff
ALFA POWER LOVE this Cars , now spray the supreme with metal protection or rust converter it will last longer 👍👌 amazing
Hi, love your content! Have an alfa 156 2.4 JTD myself, great motor! Do you have a clutch job on a 1.9 or 2.4 on your channel?
If not, i would love if you did a walk thru on one sometime!
Hi thanks for watching. Not done a clutch video yet.
no doubt about it thats one sweet car
I won't break. For that mileage with all the mechanical bits being good, it's a good option! I would say you could up the price a bit even.
ill see what the market is like in January when its got a full mot.
Your videos are so very good,need to change the rear shocks on my 3.2 which are kaput.With your help I think it's perfectly feasible.This 3.2 is 2006 and the seats are fully electric and are a solid black throughout,did they fit these as standard on a 2006 Brera.Thanks again for great content.
Thanks for watching
Any thoughts on the electric seats.They're also heated.All the brera seats I've seen have had the grey side accents.???
I'm looking at getting a brera what year and engine would you reccomend just love these beautifull cars.. just bought a barn find alfa 156..2000 reg 50k miles.. 1.6 still looking for an oil cooler...
Love the look of these cars wish they had sold these in the USA. I prefer a rear wheel drive if that could have been done. Im ok with a diesel . This kinda looks like a 2005 Chrysler crossfire which I do own.
Thanks for watching.
Hey there so i want your opinion on my first car. I just turned 18 and i love alpha romeos what do you think is a great starter car?
Got to be worth saving Neil , looks like it drove well infact better than my Brera I owned, will always love the Brera to look at but not drive lol .
My fondness is growing for the brera.
Agree, I just sold a mint condition 159 TI. I hated the way it drove. Definitely a car from a bygone era
gaffnaldo1 totally agree I could just sit a look at my brera being red with the horse shoes on , but I hated the sound of the jtd .
It’s a stunning car that was let down by Alfa by a rubbish range of engines .
@@Boris-xx7dw mines was the 2.0 Jtdm. Felt fine when it was warm. Maybe it was just me but I just felt it was just not polished at all. It felt rough, harsh and just downright difficult to drive
Nice, hope it turns into profit
I have 159 2.4 JTDm with 450 000kms on it... still runs well without any major issues. UK roads has to be very salty because in here (Czech republic) we usually don´t have that much rust on Brera/159. Just 147, 156, GT and 145/146 are getting really bad. That front subframe is shot, also those rear arms should be at least refurbished. Other than that it does look quite good.
I'm roads are not the best.
I think the 159 iis a nicer lookig car, better proportions in general, specially the SW version...yet, what a head turner!
My MiTo has 56K miles on it, it's lower than the average for this car, but it runs like a dream.
I thought I was brave buying an ‘06 BMW E63 630i Sport with 72,000 miles, lol! Love how these look though they have such an aggressive face!
159 2.2 JTS Selespeed...Just a question hoping for some help!!! When it changes gears ,it hesitates for about a second,the rev's drop to idle speed then go straight up to the rev's I was doing before it changed gear...gives you a real jerk into your seat!! Any ideas as to what it could be ??
Cheers
I ryde in one in 07 it's a beast really uncomfortable but a real beast
nice.
Awesome. Really sorry to tell you but in Europe this cars have little to no rust. In my country there is always sunny weather and i can say that England weather is the problem for Alfas.
Salt on the roads in the winter doesn't help either
Did you find out what the oil was from? I would save it definitely. Film the repairs and sell it alongside the videos as provenance that it's been fully checked, repaired and ready for the future. High mileage cars are fine and dandy as long as there is proof of servicing (even if you did do it yourself).
Not yet only finished filming it yesterday so still got all the repairs to do.
I'd save it nice car sounds fine
See the 2nd episode 👍😀
Once it gets love again, it purss nicely. 😌
I've got a similar dilemma with a 156 Q4 Crosswagon, its done 290km (180 miles) and can't decide whether to put any money in to it. My worry with that one is if the 4 wheel drive starts going wrong that the costs could fly away, are all Q4 systems compatible with each other if I need spares?
How on earth does water get in those tail lamps (at 1:22)? It does in my Brera, too, and I'd love to find out how to fix that.
Hello man, I have some problem with my Giulietta TCT gearbox. Are you going to make a video about it?
My problem is sometimes damn 'gear not available ' fault specially when I'm in heavy traffic. Can you help me to find the fault?
Note: battery is charged and problem exists
I’m looking to buy a petrol version, because ulez😅. I understand to avoid the 3.2 and look at 1.8 or 2.2
Save it they are beautiful
see the next video for the answer. thanks for watching.
It is a very good car!! After all 🇮🇹 Italian job viva alfa Romeo!!
Thanks for watching
@@ItaliaAutos it is great car fix it.. And join!!
Niente male, ma da noi in patria puoi facilmente trovare affari migliori! Saluti da Bergamo!
Not bad, but here from us you can easily find better insertions!
Greeting from Bergamo!
Save it. It is a beautiful looking car well thay all are
Is the passenger side window a little wobbly? Please see the top edge during the drive part of the video.
Window was open a bit and the camera and mount was making it wobble.
Easier crank pulley change than my 916 then?? (What isn’t!). Have a great Christmas mate 🎅🏻
did you notice i did it one handed lol. happy xmas to you to.
Show off! 😉
Apart from service replacements..wishbones and roll bar links, battery etc. the crank pulley was the only failure I had on our 156 2.4JTD Sportwagon in 130,000 miles. I'm never going to say "Break it" . I have to be in a really cruel mood to say that of an Alfa that is so easily recoverable. If it were a basket case....different matter, but its not.
thats very good going.
It was a turismo model with the smaller wheels/ tyres and I'm convinced that gave the suspension an easier time as tyre wear was very even and the tyres, Firestone Firehawks lasted really well and suspension components didn't do badly either. The car was never used roughly and a couple of guys (now retired) in Lincoln with Alfa blood running through their veins looked after it. It did long commutes and was simply one of the best cars we've ever had. ( 5 Alfas amongst them).
Hi...great video as always..cant wait to see her finished 😋😋...can u tell me your experience with 2.2jts breras...do they have some issues or expenses other than fuel economy(compared to jtdm engines)
Cheers. Not a fan of any of the jts engines. I’d personally avoid the,.
@@ItaliaAutos tnx for the answer...people on aflisti.hr who own it said that it is pretty good engine and that it is not problematic or anything but ok...thank you...i will think about it 😊
@@bladibacar7445 I've run mine for 3 years without a single mechanical issue. It IS a solid engine. It's not gonna blow your socks off, but its reliable & totally solid.
@@AdAstra78 tnx for sharing your experience with me m8 😊😊
And an SZ I had too. Is just an hyper 75 born from the IMSA 75 idea under the skin.
You've got two chances, either it's all gone wrong with it already or it's about to happen lol my 159 costs me a fortune but I love it.
therushden fingers crossed
I just got rid of my late 159 2011 159 TI. Beautiful car, but i thought it was a poor drive. Am I wrong?
@@gaffnaldo1 there's plenty better out there. My 2.4 is a nose heavy beast. The looks are its highlight.
@@therushden that's probably the perfect way to put it. Replaced it with an 08 is250. It gets no second glances but the Alfa felt like the ark in camparison, even tho the 159 is 4 years younger!! Happy I owned one but definitely won't be back
Nice motor. Shame to break it but please underseal it before it dissolves
Bought a 159 2.4 jtdm premium for 3000€ then the service cost me 2150€ 😂😂,, but I love it
What kind of service was needed?
Save it more on the road the better,mine knocks on os rear,can’t find any play might just change link rods to see if that shuts it up
Wd40 each bush one at a time then drive it. When it goes that’s the bush.
Good pressure was oil leak ect in S.A that would sellnfor about R50k plus easy
Oh defo save it
People are too negative, when seeing an Italian car with high mileage. All still lies sticking in the people's heads since the 70's 80's . My little sister drove 250.000 km with the Fiat 600 900 cmm from 2000+ never had an issue. Actually made 160.000 km with modern 500 also no issues, just oil changes every 10.000 km or per year. I had 2 Fastback Spider(a junior and 2 liter, a Fiat 124 BS1 from 73', Alfa 6 2.5 V6, GTV Alfettas, 2 Liter and 2.5 V6. Bertone 1750 Quadrifoglio d'oro etc etc never had big issues, yes the Fiat had water-pump, thermostat.....rest nothing. Alfas are girls to be treaten good, and they pay back with love. If you have really problems, change your dealer or mechanic.
I don't know how is the durability of 2.4 as compared to 1.9, but mine 156 Crosswagon is precisely 201k miles right now and still runs absolutely perfectly. So I wouldn't mind the mileage that much ;)
On the other hand, I know that buyers usually do...to the extend that they prefer 100 k miles piece of scrap over 200k well preserved car!
hopefully someone will want it if it gets fixed.
Save it, if the clutch and dmf is good
yep there good.
The oil slick fix under the engine ? Has it got any miles left or is it finished just part it out and end it oily misery ?
miles left in the old girl yet.
My 2.4 brera has its dpf clogged warning light on, is it possible to do a dpf regen myself or do I have to take it to a specialist?
You probably already know this, but taking the car for a run in a gear which allows the engine to run at 3000rpm will clean it up, run the car for at least 15 miles and the light should go out, as long as the dpf is not damaged. Once the light goes out, put some dpf cleaner in every fourth tank of fuel as a preventive measure😀👍🏻
Watching this, I'd save it. It has hardly any faults and is too good to break
Save it running good with them miles on it
im going to try.
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Save it
can you tell me your opinion about 75 or make video about it maybe? specially about 2.0 ts one
i dont get them in very often i'm afraid.
Too old
Me : no its the Passenger Seat... Ah no its UK ✋
I have a 2008 2.4 jtdm with more than 120 000 km.change intake manifold ,power steering rack ,all shock absorbers, crank pulley ,qtronic TCM, gearbox solenoids all new unit, front suspension arms,key is using C3 engine oil for passive regen and not anyother oil.i do oil change every 12 months.The car drives like new now.more stable and safe than any BMW or Mercedes or Audi of its class.design makes it a head turner compared to germans.brings me class and bitches.repaired the rear lights by drilling holes on them no water anymore, change front and rear badges.use rainX and meguiars product.i buy parts from shop4parts uk fly to me by plane.
Save it! Someone will have it.
Find out in the next episode lol
Squeezed on the trailer. 👍🏼
Yeah brera and 159 are huge cars.
Have one too
But gearbox gone
Does some one want one in qld Australia
very surprised to see perfectly running not o bad looking alfa at 200k and actual alfa dealership (technically). not so long ago i saw couple used alfas for great price once i started digging in common faults sorry but thanks for example timing belt at 35k (petrols) so u need a workshop to run modern car :)
Me to.
My dad had 420.000km on 2.4 154kW 159sw and I think it still would be going now if he didnt have an accident :(
So what's the price 700?
How do you think, will be a good idea to get 2005 Alfa 156 for day-to-day driving?
Perfectly fine.
@@ItaliaAutos it might be the one with JTS engine with a transparent history of owning. But unfortunately it has mileage of 230 kilometers already
I once had an Alfasud in the 1980's. I started driving in 1965,and must have owned and driven dozens of cars since then.,I've has Fords,Vauxhalls,Renaults,a Volvo,Merc.Mazda and Honda,but the experience of the Alfa still remains in my memory as the best I've owned.There was something about the engine sound and the 5 speed gearbox that made it so enjoyable.Unfortunately rust in the wheel arches made me decide to trade it in.If I gave a friend a lift they were always impressed with its comfort and engine sound.I must get another but I wonder if they've lost the character that made them so great.
nice.
Alfa flat four petrol,,, versus online 5 cylinder diesel. I can assure you its gonna sound more than a bit different 🤔
Rescue it, somebody with less money will thank it for ever as your customer.
I had a tyre bulge like that after a pothole! Check the rim carefully
Rim has been swapped