$4 Million TBM 940 Turboprop Is The Fastest Plane In Its Class
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Today We are comparing two of the best turboprop aircraft in the market. If you have about $3,000,000 to spend on your next airplane and you need to carry 4-5 passengers, The Piper M600 and TBM 940 should be on your shortlist of airplanes.
The real question here though is which is the better turboprop airplane. Both serve similar missions and just as capable. But one of the airplanes, the TBM 940 cost a million dollars more.
Here is a list of all the categories we looked at.
Mission - Both aircraft are capable cross country machines with similar performance characteristics. The M600 will take you up to 1480 nautical miles while the TBM 940 will take you up to 1723 nautical miles.
Design - Both airplanes are low wing turboprops with retractable landing gears. The TBM 940 seem to be more practical though in its design. Having 2 large doors instead of one can go a long way with many pilots.
Comfort - Which aircraft can carry all six people in best comfort and relaxation? This is a bit tough because the cabin space for both airplanes are quite roomy and spacious. The Piper M600 does seem to have a bit more leg room and larger windows. in the TBM 940, you have nice recliner seats.
Performance - which is the best performing airplane? TBM 940 hands down is the better performing airplane. With faster speeds and more range.
Purchase Price - Piper M600 fully loaded will cost about $3.4 million. TBM 940 fully loaded will cost $4.6 million
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My lemonade stand is saving up for a TBM.
Yea but you could have the best lemonade in the world “served” on the TBM.
I flew a tbm940 from Chile to Montana last summer. Then from delivery, I picked up the owners SR22 (which I ended up buying) and flew to Alaska, then Vegas, followed by California. It was an awesome 5 days flying!
The 940 was a lot of fun to fly. Fast,great climb rate, nimble considering what it actually is.
Honestly though, for the price, I think I'd get something im comfortable flying over water instead, like the DA62. Dual engines are both a blessing and a curse.
I would pay a million more for the TBM..It is the most well made and beautiful turbo prop plane out there bar none.
What about Pilatus PC-12NG ?
@@nyontozel PC12 is a tractor trailer for commuter operations it’s not a personal playboy acft.
All these children in here no nothing about acft construction or even what an A@P license is or what it’s for. Construction on TBM is like a Mercedes compared to Ford Mustang, all the girls think their the same cause they look good on the outside but don’t have a clue to build quality.
@@tropicthndr Excellent analogy
@@tropicthndr People might take you more seriously if you learn something about grammar and spelling.
*Me, making $40,000 a year* : "Ah, yes, just one extra million."
Yup, that's what I made delivering pizza...but $40,000 is plenty of money to build an entry level flying saucer using the most basic mechanical gravity wave propulsion
Turn it around buddy
that's the irony of this channel
If you have to scam your way into ownership then what is another million?
Don’t complain. This is for the rich people.
Mike, I like your presentation style: smooth-clear not too technical but enough details do more.
Thank you for comparing my favorite two aircraft. I really appreciate how you structured the comparison (categories) and integrated video shots. You have a great channel and I always look forward to your next vblog!
I don't understand why someone would dislike a informative video.
People are just assholes
Racists
Jealousy and resentment, actually. It's usually some virtue signalling leftist that "feels" you should pay to feed some starving natives somewhere instead of paying for an aircraft.
The problem I have with all of the TBM models from the 850 on up is 1: They all have an 850SHP engine and 2: The all only seat 6 people. But what they are trying to sell is speed for small groups of people. I think the Pilatus PC-12NG & NGX are the best turbo-props for the money on the market. I totally agree with you Mike that the M600 is the best plane for the buck between it and the TBM. 1 million dollars can buy a lot of fuel for the M600.
Nice comparison Mike. Years ago, I looked at the Meridian, which I believe is the same airframe as the M600, and it was a very tight squeeze trying to get into the pilot's seat.
Regarding the TBM, another video mentioned that the blades can rotate to slow the plane or even reverse thrust on the hard. One more reason why many seem to prefer the TBM.
Epic E1000 looks even better to me.
Mike, I really enjoy your video's. Clear yet detailed, wonderful voice. Hope to see you doing more flying video's on the different airplanes. Cheers.
I have been in love with the TBM since TBM700. Although I flew the Pipers quite a bit, like the Cherokees, especially the Arrow.
I wonder how big of a difference is the operation cost? Seems to me that TBM 940 would work great for a charter company, while the Piper M600 is more for personal use type of aircraft.
Good video Mike, you have the perfect voice for this type of work. I would have thrown in the Pilatus PC-12 into the mix.
This guys smile when he leans back in that seat....man. I'm sold. I'll take one. Please have it delivered to my condo. Thank you.
The Piper M600 and Epic E1000 are at the same price point. However, you are getting TBM performance or better with the Epic E1000.
Resale on m600 won’t be good either, very flimsy tincan construction compared to e1000 and TBM aircraft. There will be ADs coming for m600 much sooner than the other planes. M600 turbine overheats on takeoff very easily in hot climates because the “inertial separator” is on all the time, you can’t control it, unlike TBM and e1000.
I flew a Meridian, made me happier with my Mooney. The Piper felt like it wasn’t made well even though the demonstrator had less than 100 hours. Pilot seat in the mooney is also more comfortable. I didn’t have a big need for the extra seats, and most people I know hardly use the extra seats either unless they have a regular trip to a weekend home.
I haven’t been in a TBM in long time. I found it a very nice plane. I was too large to get into the seat from the cabin so I would have had to use the door. Looked comfortable though.
The EPIC build is next level, if you look at how it’s built vs previously fastened together Aircraft.
Thank you, for being unbiased. Your genuine approach to GA is really refreshing.
Wish TBM would add the parachute for added safety. Cirrus, Piper and others are onboard already.
I absolutely love your videos young brother. Best wishes and keep bringing it
Me: How much how does the TBM cost?
Daher: YES
4.6 million
I really enjoyed this video. Your production quality is great. It seems to be improving with age. Love all your content and keep up the great work!
A quality video. Thanks👍 Beautiful aircraft.
Very well done. Nicely paced. Right to the point. No wasted filler. Good analysis. Respect of the viewers time.
I saw Kurt Russel fly his red TBM into my home airport years ago and I have been a fan of the TBM ever since.
Small correction: 330 knots on the TBM is true air speed, not indicated. 330 indicated at 28000ft would be pretty scary haha
You mean pretty awesome!!!
what happens is that with the price of the TBM 940 a Pilatus P 12 NGX is much better
Better based on what? One man's needs and wants may not be the same as yours.
Yes the is a nicer plane and used presents a great value. You could easily lease out while not in use.
Pc 12 ngx us higher value and.. In Europe is, Swiss based more trusthy. If you choice a used one you can get it for 1 to 2 million with jss or pwc program. I think much cheaper in all.
PC12 is a heavy tractor trailer built for commuter airlines with a 5 million price tag, not even same category. Duh. Teenyboppers with opinions
Hi Mike! I think Epic E1000 would be more suitable to compare with TBM
Great planes, the TBM has it beat in many areas, yet the Piper is just a much more beautiful airplane to me
*Weird to think that a Million dollars is just a nice present from a rich uncle for some people*
I have multiple rich uncles and and never got anywhere near a million dollar gift
Maybe you get a gift like that from a parent, but a relative giving a gift like that seems like a "sorry for the molesting" present
Love the video, and I agree the m600 does seem to be the better
Max speed for TBM is not indicated but true airspeed, that is 330 KTS means 330 KTAS at FL310 :)
I am just a peasant but if I had they $$$ I would choose the TBM 940 but If money was not a problem I would spend a bit more and get a Honda Jet.
Exactly
Owning a jet in Europe comes with a lot of disadvantages. Can’t fly at night at a lot of airports + maintainance costs rise exponentially
Very detailed and well explained.
Loving these new style of videos please keep it up
This goes to your "Power of Now" Ego video. IF you have the extra million, do you NEED the TBM or is it your ego telling you go get it because it is an ego booster?? GREAT video Mike and well said.
Ego booster? If you drive a Honda Accord versus a Tesla model S plaid, everyone will know the difference and I guess you can relish in that. 99.99% of the public has no idea about planes and couldn't care less which plane you fly. No, it's all about practicality. The TBM 940 is 56 knots faster. If you need the extra speed and have the cash, why not go for it? But it's nothing to do with ego boost.
Personally, it's hard justifying spending $1 million more for what you get. You can carry 4 grown adults, weighing 200 lbs each on the M600 and still have 200 lbs for baggage. And let's be honest: who the heck is going more than four hours on a plane without one or more of the passengers needing a bathroom break?
That TBM is a pretty sweet looking airplane but North of four Mil? That's a lot of scratch. Thanks for the comparison. Well done.
4mil buys a lot of first class tickets. Or get a carbon cub for less than a tenth of that and have some actual fun....
Mikey you are not being fair and not playing by objective rules. In choosing your bird you forgot to mention that TBM takes you 260 nm further with 400 lbs additional pounds of luggage.
Good point
If Mike Mojogrip would loan me the cabbage, I will buy a TBM 940, a PC21, a PC24, a Sling, and...did I miss something?
in your reviews need to address operating cost, serviceability, local or convenient maintenance access
I was thinking the very same thing. I looked up basic numbers like fuel burn (39gph for the M600 versus 55gph for the TBM940), cost per hour, annual costs, hanger costs (if a plane has a very long wing span, it might not fit in a T hangar and will therefore need a bigger, costlier hangar), etc. I think Mike got caught up in sitting in them and forgot to give us basic info!
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 lol I love the phrase you said "Mike got caught up sitting in them and forgot to give us basic info", and I agree, these things like fuel burn and maintenance etc are very important especially for buying an airplane.
Sick color!! Classy!!
TBM still wins on comfort. All the TBM feat outweigh the small diff in leg room.
If the TBM price includes the Homesafe Sytem, it’s worth the extra.
I think I'll get the TBM
The new Daher TBM 960 has a dunny!!!!
I would be interested in seeing how much legroom there is with four people in the back. That "great" legroom you were talking about would be cut in half. Let's not forget, the passengers that are facing each other are sharing that space.
Do a look at the PC 12 NGX
Any French pilot will go for the TBM.
That's an acronym for "well hung".
Probably fitting for anyone spending that type of cash 😃
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nope :)
Thanks for the video. Nice.
That pop out railing is a maintenance nightmare.
The Epic LT1000 max cruise speed 333 TBM 940 330 Ceiling TBM 940- 33,000 Epic LT1000 34,000 Bold statements should be backed up with FACTS
I'm going to buy both aircrafts... in gta
A bit mo betta? Yeah I’m buyin
Now I know which one to get ;)
Loved it! Please do one comparing the G36 Bonanza vs the Piper M350
Someone has to give Jerry Knott a call
Why are there so many comments on plane videos about people not being able to afford them. This is very annoying . If you can't afford something work for it and get it. I never once in my life look at super cars planes or boats and think " I can't afford that" That is the wrong mindset. IF you love planes as I do admire them. There is no need to speak about how much they are in a wo as me connotation.
What are the reasons you would go for a turboprop instead of a Honda Jet our Citation M2 which cost about the same?
Rather have the Piaggio Avanti 405 Knots cruising speed 466 mph cruising speed
I'll buy 2.
If I had $5 mil to buy an aircraft, it would be Honda Jet, not a TBM
Hi. Great ,video & C and C. I would buy the halo.
If you’re going to spend that kind of money, why in the world would you even think twice about getting one of these compared to the Honda jet, cirrus jet?!?!?!
Can anyone answer?
@@anthonyca Operational costs are too high for hondajet
Give me that TBM 940 with an Airwolf paintjob.
4 million is just crazy for a plane that size.
One thing not mentioned in performance is fuel efficiency. 1% is not going to swing anything, 15% certainly will.
Better ingress/egress, payload, range, performance if you have $3.4 millions available, you have the means to get the additional $1.2 mil.
For me the only genuine advantage the M600 has is rear seat leg room, which is moot if the TBM gets you to your destination faster.
Great comparison as always.
Playback speed of 1.5x is perfect
I’ve gotten used to Mike’s voice at 1.75x.
@@chriskroeker1889 2x here .... to the point that watching it at normal speed feels weird
Ill take the one with
“ more better legroom”👍
The security section is missing ... The Piper, thanks to the Halo system, is one of the safest aircraft on the planet. It can fly and land at any airport even if the pilot is completely incapacitated .. That is much more important than design or comfort ...
Wouldn’t a PC-12 be comparable?
Neither of those two! For the M600 budget The Epic E1000 is superior. For the TBM 940 budget you can get the superior PC 12 NGX .
I agree on the PC12. If my cryptos pay off, there will be a PC in my hanger.
If the payload is 3 passengers or less, don’t need short runway access, the SF50 G2 is far superior in term of cabin, safety (BRS) and price (1.5M less than the TBM), and is far more advanced (fully integrated G3000, FADEC, carbon fiber, engine fire extinguishers) and is only 3..5% slower. The TBM does have more range but I don’t know anybody who likes to sit for 4+ hours without a bathroom stop...
PC 12 still beats anyone - it has a bathroom too
the person who invented the reclining seat for aircraft should be sued for crime against humanity
Can't make up mind but I think the cupholders do it for me....writing two checks!
If I had that kind of money I'd by a Beechcraft Duke, renovate the interior, upgrade the avionics, and replace the piston engines with a couple Pratt and Whitney turbo prop engines. Royal Turbine Duke...yes please!
Yea, that plane is a legend, takes off like a fighter plane. You have to rebuild the tail because of the magnesium problem though and that’s a must, so this is a real millionaire plane project. If you want a plane that’s even better though and built like a tank with better support, you go Mitsubishi MU2.
great jobber i wish you would have built a RV 10
My question is how much is the fuel (gph) burn between the two planes?
Expect 65GPH in the TBM and 45 in the M600.
You missed the Pilatus PC-12 NGX.. Cheaper and more room. Might not be as fast, but who cares. Its the journey, not the destination with pilots.
That 330 KTS of the TBM is True Air Speed according to the specs of Daher.
The TBM is worth every dollar over that of the Piper.
Did you say cheaper? Certainly not a brand new NGX.
What’s with all the PC12 recommendations, their all wrong on every account, not even in the same category. Such amateur teenyboppers on this channel.
That's why the winner is PC-12 will do it all and do it well
Mike I was looking and didn't see, but do you have a video on plane maintenance costs, for hourly, and how to choose a good mechanic to make sure everything is safe and ready to go, and how often they should be looking the airplane over?
Stellar Avion out of Camarillo, California
Well...I'd skip both and get the Vision Jet.
I would like to get one of those
4 million airplane , no toilet, this mean that you need to pis inside the bottle....
The TBM has a button u can push for an emergency that will land its self. In case something happened to the pilot. Idk about the piper tho.
Yes, Piper has auto land.
I honestly think its because TBM is made in France and performs better is why it's more expensive....same concept with some European cars vs some American cars. 🤷🏾♂️
Epic E1000GX is the answer to this question
The Black Knight cost $1.2m more because of it's bitchin name and that sexy style lol
The pilot door on the TBM is a $90,000 option.
I feel like if you can afford a 3.4 million vehicle…you can probably afford 4.6 without any trouble.
Money no object.....TBM! Money the object.....ummm... I think I can afford to pay for my car's oil change.
Anyone looking at buying this type of aircraft would obviously have a bank balance that would put the M600 out of contention from the get go
Compare them with the vision jet
I think the tbm flies just as high and a little faster cruise speed than the vision jet.
Love love
What about the Pilatus?
Very much appreciate the comparison. Thank you.
Do you know if TBM 940 can land in graveled runways or any rough runways like pc12ngx ? Or does TBM offer any kit for such?
There's an option to change the landing gear arrangement, but it's almost like putting knobby tires on a BMW 5 series.
Will I fit the TBM at 6'7"?
I was just looking at a 96 citation x for 3.1 mill.
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Yes.
Might as well get a Jet at this price