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I love these "Do all people think the same" videos
A request: Can we get a " Do all physicians/scientist think the same" ?
do all men think the same
do all cops think the same
do all parents think the same
"Do all Muslims think the same"?
You can just feel the tension in this video.
@Caroline Green thx honey❤💛💚💙💜
@@uraveragegayteen6065 Correct response. Now go play outside and be careful, it is a dangerous world out there.
@@ZirmicTreame yea I know,this world is full of psychos 😂
Jonathan Leon u can feel the tension in every video
Jonathan Leon I can taste it
I think they should do “do all teenage Christians think the same” just to get a different view point and see we’re younger members of the Christian society stand.
I would love to see that myself! Being that I’m a teenager and a strong Christian
These people are pretty young so...
Kristina Abigail Davila but those people aren’t teenagers. Teenagers can be more brutal but their minds are easily manipulated by what they are exposed to. Teenagers don’t have to worry about taxes or bills so they think about other things such as religion and their beliefs.
yes, that is a great idea
Yesss please
As a Christian, I feel like even the Christians in this video have not fully read the Bible. Reading it every day is key.
So so true.
not just that, but studying the theology and history of what is said in the Bible
I strongly agree
Dude, like 90% have not read the full bible
It’s not only important to read it, but trying to understand messages that being delivered, the Bible get misinterpreted to fit people desires, I have a friend who said he know the whole Bible, but he hate our friend because our friend being taken advantage of financially and value peace more than making money
I'm a Christian and this video made me incredibly sad.
Why would this video make you sad?
@@atriller It's sad because these people claim Christ but have no true, scriptural understanding of who He is or what it means to be a Christian.
I know. The amount of sinning is beyond severe.
@@elizabeth6134 Praise The Lord. I am glad you understand scripture, sister.
@@elizabeth6134 What specifically?
the two lgbtq people looked ready to throw hands
They were my favorite because all the straights were not making any sense
As they should✨
3 were about to throw hands (the 3rd being me)
@@manicmax7909 we love the energy
I would too
They should’ve asked “I have read the entire bible”
lol yeah
Fax lol
It's not even enough to just read it. We have to seek understanding.
Or…. “I have read more than one verse consecutively in the bible.” All these Gen Z Christian just read verses from time and time again to get their spiritual high
all 6 of them: "I stronly disagree"
For anyone confused on why someone may not date someone of the same religion as them, it’s mainly because it can be difficult for your partner to understand how important it is to you. They won’t understand a lot of it, or even not want it at all, and it can directly effect you in a very negative way.
Actually it says in the bible that you should aline yourself with other Christian's so that's why
@@theearliers103
Yeah, we are called not to be unequally yoked
And then fulfil, John 14:12?
And also, unschism... yourselves...
And that is why.@@theearliers103
True, people have their own valid reasons. For example, if you know that out of marriage you want children, and you and your spouse are two separate religions, then it can cause a lot of uncertainty with raising the children. That might not always be the case, and I'm not even speaking from experience, but it's just an example because people have their own various reasons for not wanting to marry someone non-Christian
Also because in the Bible is says not to be unequally yolked with non believers
Being Christian and part of the lgbtq community must be extremely difficult.
Ever took a guess why?
TOTALLY
Oh it was. Until a year or two after I came out, I developed an agnostic view on things.
you cant be both
You can’t be an lgbtq+ christian
you ever watch these videos and think "I wish I was in this"
Espeacilly in this one
Yeah
Too bad I'm not an English speaker and I would be struggling lol
Same. Especially because I study theology and a very firm Catholic. I wrote my thesis on LGBTQ+ Catholics
YES
oreem yhhhhhh😫😫😫😫😂
"Where do we draw the line"
CONSENT. CONSENT. CONSENT. CONSENT.
Edit (since some of you lack common sense) CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT.
THANK YOU! huge difference between a consensual relationship between two adults and being a PEDOPHILE for god's sake
✍🏼the✍🏼line✍🏼starts ✍🏼with✍🏼consent✍🏼 got it! ✍🏼
Still prohibited by the Bible
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
@@quandale3311 Miss girl what? Come again did you just say people can't consent? So you're suggesting rape?
When Kytia said she loves lgbtq people and then said that we are on the same level as pedophiles, I was very disappointed. Like that is something Ive heard my whole entire life being a gay person and in the church. I really want her to understand what she is saying when she says this. She's taking something that she has a hard time understanding, and conflating an entire group of human beings with the worst thing she can think off, and then she claims that she loves us. That is hatred, anger, and fear. Not love. Love is understanding. Love is recognizing somebody as a human being first and treating them as a human being whether you agree with their lifestyle or not
Well, as I so far see it, @Bi Curious Dirt Bike Boi , she was maybe not so much talking about the behavior, as about the impulses, behind both such attractions, and if they should be viewed with alarm or not. Not so much the issue of consent or propriety.
Still, theists do often confuse me, especially about what is 'natural' or not.
I don’t think she was saying that being gay is the same as being a pedophile I think that she meant when you break one rule that the Bible has then it’s easier to break another. the more you break rules the easier it is to break them.
THANK YOU
@@chrissonofpear1384 whether she was just talking about an impulse or not, she still compared us to pedophiles, and I have a huge problem with that
@@leahmarks5013 it doesn't matter if that's what she meant or not, that's what she said
i use this video as pre-workout... really gets the adrenaline going
*"I Support the LGBT community"*
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🏳️🌈❤️🏳️🌈❤️🏳️🌈❤️🏳️🌈❤️ I support
Btw, HOW THE FRICK IS THERE A NO LGBT EMOJI!?!
@Mizz Murple Because some people are for and some people against it. As simple
Idc😂 either way I don’t support but I don’t not support i just mind my business
paulcar um no there isn’t an anti lgbt emoji it was only a Twitter thing lol
nah whenever he said “i am gay” the first time they said 👁👁
That women compared gay people to pedophiles, then said “I know it’s the same in my heart”
It can goes both ways:
If a man loves a women, what about a man loving a girl? Or a women loving a boy?
It is a silly argument...
Fabio Oliveira yes
@@tomasmalin are you seriously saying that there's nothing wrong with being a pedophile?
Royal Madnessty ikr that’s literally the craziest shid I’ve ever heard in my entire life
tomasmalin I’m not upset at all actually I just thing comparing two adults liking each other to pedophilia is completely ridiculous. 👀
4:44 s/o to the two lgbt Christians that handled that horrible comment so gracefully. As a gay guy, I wouldn’t have been that nice. The fact that she’s comparing being gay to pedophilia is insane.
sin is sin dude
@Vivian Tibbz SiN iS siN dUdE🤡💀💀
@@viviantibbz5843 You can't compare being Queer to pedophilia they do NOT cary the same weight 2 people who are part off the lgbtq community can live a loving relationship with eachother and be happy but a child and adult can not
you mean the too "Christians" who twist the Bible to make it say what they believe?
@@drewblazecertifiedpersonal9788 its true 🤓
Girl should have just said "I strongly disagree because I'm a homophobe" and move along 😭
Comparing pedophilia to LGBTQ? I was assaulted as a child. I had no consent. Now as an adult I am bi and I live peacefully knowing that I don't force anyone into a relationship. Am I as bad as a pedo now?
I think it was more along the lines of it’s a sexual sin such as cheating on a spouse or sexually immoral things.
@@brinceleste8985 so wouldnt straightness also be sinfull? because staigtness is sexuality.
dont compare rape to loveing someone.
@@mkgaca8721 no that just irrational logic along with your ideas. Straightness with pedo yes. Straightness with po*n yes marriage with cheating yes. So
@@brinceleste8985 wait so the act of kissing my wife is a sexual sin?
@@mkgaca8721 or if you were born a woman and changed your gender to fit your earthly desires and lead yourself down a path
They should do "Do all Christians think the same?" but all of the people are NAMED Christian haha
wait, that's funny hahah
Melanie Lopez why did i read this in kurtis conners voice
youre iconic
I’m down😂
That would actually be pretty Funny
They literally picked this group to argue about LGBTQ issues among Christians.
Si
I'm not a Christian
@@deshawnyates5840 nice
Someone has to talk about it
@@deshawnyates5840 nor am I.
I was waiting for someone to say you have to be equally yoked with each other! Amen that guy said that!
That lady comparing being gay to pedophilia is so disgusting . Such a horrible person I'm sorry.
What is the difference from a objective perspective both immoral biology and logically
@@Learn_Quranwithme There is not morality in biology. There is nothing immoral about being gay.
@@lornam1142 yes it is immoral
@@user-ij5sp4zv5h Explain why
@@user-ij5sp4zv5himmoral for you who have a narrow thinking
I know this girl did not just say being a pedophile is the same thing as liking the same sex 💀😭
ikk
So she doesn’t think straight men can be pedos? Or they are the exception.
Claire Bear she’s saying a man liking a man or a woman liking a woman is just as bad as an old person liking little kids 😭
All sins are equal so she’s correct
Adak Pabek why is it a sin to begin with ?
Gay relationship is conscent, rape isn't, dont compare the two, absolutely no correlation.
the reason why they exist is the same, i mean from a biological way, they're the same but not on the moral side
@@theamericanwellbeing Just like how straight relationships exist right? What's your point.
@@theamericanwellbeing you could say the same as being straight. Though pedophilia is a mental issue and when you’re young you can’t consent
YES YES YES!!!
@@theamericanwellbeing ???? Explain ????
The term "gay lifestyle" gets thrown around a lot in mainstream churches. It comes with a lot of assumptions like promiscuous encounters and hitting up the club. That term has never related to me. I'm a gay Christian, pursue dating gay Christian men, lead spiritual growth groups at church, and practice my faith.
You are not a Christian.
@Sandy Gem Quoting that verse does not dismantle my view. I've already reconciled my faith with being gay. I have nothing to prove and will not engage in further discussion. Have a great night!
@@tinygingervitus bro 💀
Agreed. These people seriously act like we wanted to be in a community that makes us more than twice as likely to be randomly attacked for no reason. We didn't choose to be gay, we chose to except that we are gay.
@@tinygingervitus so you deny God's word?
An actual Christian would believe and trust in the Lord.... but you do not.
I congratulate the two Christians who are part of the lgbtq+ community. They literally got told by everyone there that they’re are sinners and their love is not natural. And they were able to keep going. They were not rude and listened. What the others were saying hurt! You could see it in their face.
I could not do that. The others specially the lady in yellow and the blond girl was absolutely disgusting and off the way.
I disagree but life is subjective soo you have your opinions I have mine :)
life might be subjective but tearing other people down for something they cant change and something that doesnt affect anybody elses life is kinda rude?
@@annikaknoll8951 tearing them down? They just said what they’re doing isn’t right by the standards of their SHARED religion.
How’s that disgusting? They all share the SAME religion. A true Christian will always tell another believer what they’re doing is sinful. The blond girl in particular was so sweet so I don’t get what she said that was disgusting. Mind blowing that other people even liked your comment.
@@honour_zoeee9151 how u disagree w ppl loving who they want
“I know that it is the same.”
I guess you never learned what consent is.
Dicelord N well, married and heterosexual, not just married lol
I guess they would say sin is a sin. Both are equally sins
She didn’t even say anything about actually molesting or raping. All the said was “attracted to”
@Dicelord N wow facts.
Dicelord N you clearly saw that the other Christians disagreed with her but you still make that generalization...
Pedophlia and consent between two partners is not the same thing.
Christian Weidmann bruh i’m christian and your really giving us a bad look we were all created equal and God loves us all it doesn’t matter your sexuality he still loves you
@@ellensalvatori9151 book of leviticus 20:13
amateur editor that talks about intercourse and even if it did say homosexuality was bad bibles were changed in the 40s by Germans who were homophobic and christianity was the biggest religion so they wanted christians to be homophobic
@Christian Weidmann God did not write the Bible. White men who had corrupt beliefs did. If you truly believe in God, ask yourself "does it make sense for this to be a bad thing". Because what are the other options. someone to never get to love or be in a relationship? Or one to be in a relationship with someone they don't love? Because scientifically, nothing can turn you straight. And religion has to follow guidelines of science as well.
@Christian Weidmann if god hates homosexuals, then why did he make so many? this is coming from a 13 year old bisexual non-christian
i agree what Tray said about Christians. They pick and choose what they want to believe or follow..
No
Yes, I choose the Bible to follow.
that’s called being lukewarm. you should not base your understanding of our religion on that
Im straight, but it’s disgusting how that woman compared being lgbtq+ to being a you know what. That isn’t the same thing at all and it’s impressive how those two queer people handled the situation. 👏
I think she just worded it very poorly in God's eyes. All sins are the same except a select few I think what she meant is at the end of a day it's still a sin but I think saying it the way she did was very hateful
@@r3w0rkedyes, I’d assume that what she meant to say is that all sin is equal in the sense of being a sin and thus evil, but not in severity.
“Where do you draw the line” GIRL CONSENTING ADULT
What if a brother and a sister Consent?
Cody Mathews thats incest
@@dkhna But it's consensual
Cody Mathews it’s incest.
@@chloeainslie1513 Where do you draw the line
"Im gay"
"Im queer"
Everyone else: 👀
👀👀👀👀
Zi Zi I have two dads, and we are christian. God loves everyone equally, stripping someone of their identity is going against his message.
@@loverfall nope, have you actually read the bible?
@Zi Zi Yes you can, but u cant act upon the feelings, if what u said was true anyone who commit any sinful lifestyle cant be Christian
Zi Zi allow me to explain, sexuality does not invalidate their religious beliefs. if you believe that a person can change their sexuality by will that’s also incorrect. sexuality is determined by who you are attracted to and should have no other connotations.
I’m so grateful I’m at a age where I truly know that what anyone thinks about me is none of my business. Acceptance of self will always win out over anyone else’s ideas of you. Sometimes we have to leave places or spaces that no longer support us or never will.
I've been subjected to paedophilia as a young boy. I'm a Christian now, and the comparison of being Gay and being attracted to little boys is.. I don't know how to describe that. I'm shocked.
I feel like I understand what she was trying to say, but it came across in all the wrong ways. I get the idea that you can't just say "I'm attracted to who I'm attracted to." because that's what a paedophile might say. But you cannot say that being gay is equivalent to paedophilia because that is just disgusting.
that blonde girl looks 19 and 58 at the same time
Omg😂
Bcse she looks like a young girl at 60’s decade
LMAO true
She kinda looks like Taylor Swift
Your right XD
hearing them call lgbt a ‘lifestyle’ and then comparing pedophilia to two consenting adults pissed me off beyond belief
But is it not a lifestyle just as if you were heterosexual it would be a lifestyle since you behave that way everyday?
semane b. When you say lifestyle you’re implying that your entire life is based around your sexuality. It’s not.
@@boopboop7208 not exactly because your lifestyle is just the way you live
Spencer Tracy Context is key. I myself am Christian though I take the Bible very very loosely, since it’s been tainted by humans, and I am bisexual. Even though I don’t believe in the story of Adam and Eve I’ll explain it that way. God was populating the world of course you would need one woman and one man because that’s how reproduction works. Once the world was larger there was more room for, well, people who don’t have children. This isn’t specifically my belief (why the frick would you make a man before a woman??? Hermaphrodites???) but I hope I explained this better. In short, there is no real need for population growth in the present, so why shouldn’t there be gay people?
Spencer Tracy comparing attraction? a little kid can’t be attracted to a middle aged adult, that is called grooming. two legal consenting adults very much can be attracted to each other.
I been bullied my whole life with homophobic slurs from a group of Christian kids who were raised to believe they were superior to others and the world was beneath them. I might not be gay, but I understood always being shoved around why we need to stand up for homophobia. I may be a Christian, but you better believe I will go down swinging if other Christians attack my LGBT friends.
I’m sorry that you went through that. As a Christian myself, I am a strong supporter of LGBT. Don’t let people like them get you down.
@@louiejonesponation You shouldn't support sin. You shouldn't hate them either, but you definitely should not support their sin. That"s the most unloving thing you could do.
@@louiejonesponationthere's a difference between loving all and accepting all, as a Christian acceptance means you accept their life decision which unfortunately do not align with the bible
@@abicadabby 4 months ago that was, I’ve changed. I’m now against LGBT, strongly against it.
All of you who are saying that Lady is disgusting have completely missed the point she was trying to make. Her point was that just because you feel a certain way it doesn't mean you should act out on those feelings. She was using paedophiles as an example. Just because a paedophile feels attraction towards kids it doesn't mean they should act out on it, Which I think is a fair point.
We all agree that a pedophile shouldn’t act on it, because a child cannot consent and it’s an unequal power dynamic that causes lifelong trauma and pain. Two adults who love each other can consent and it’s not the same thing at all - but you and the lady in yellow already know that and still choose to make this harmful, bigoted point anyway. STFU
@@down-to-earth-mystery-school the irony of labelling yourself an empath yet when someone else expresses the way they feel and you tell them to stfu 🤣
Amen
Amen
They are still two very different things. One is an illness that stems out of the crazed state pf the mind to control someone who is not yet mature enough to take such decisions and the other is just an attraction to the gender society tells you you should not feel attracted to
“Where do you draw the line, little boys?”
You can literally say the same thing about any straight perosn
Exactly if we're using that logic then a straight guy can prey on little girls the same way if he is attracted to females...but it's different if it's a gay person?? Their ignorance never ceases to amaze me
@@beans6765 ikrrrr
I do not agree with her AT ALL. But I think she meant cause “love is love” could mean pedophilia. She’s still 100% wrong tho.
@@jessicalee989 then she is the stupidity of the stupidity bar if she thinks abuse / manipulation / pedophilia and rape is love. end of discussion, she doesnt have a point.
@@jessicalee989 It's not love which is what she fails to comprehend, it's basically a power fetish, or using any means necessary to get your rocks off.
"where do you draw the line?"
ma'am the line is CONSENT !
it's not that hard ...
Even if it's a child?
@@stefanmuller7796 Kids can't consent
No one gives consent to Christians. No one likes Christians. No one thinks that Christian's beliefs are okay, so if you're a Christian, then you probably shouldn't be if you believe this.
Ella Carter You’re being super rude about it .
@@caoilfhionncommins3055 exactly im from Belgium, im christian and gay af. It really doesn't feel like we share the same religion!
As a white Christian, I would just like to say that if anyone is going through a hard time with their sexuality and are ashamed. Don't. The Lord loves you and will love you, they will not just stop loving you because you're queer. But I want you to know that there are people like you who will love and help you. Please don't give up. It will get better if you chose so.
it’s not an illness
As a mix Atheist, idc who you are wha you are, you’re human and that’s all that matters.
im confused are you calling the lord a they?
Don’t worry guys he’s a white Christian, we’re safe now
@@doomfive leviticus 18:22, leviticus 20:13, romans 1:27 use your brain people just wanna pick and choose what part of the bible they like and don’t like.
It is so so important for people to take into consideration the historical context of the Bible and that its a translation.
"Where do you draw the line?"
Uhhh...it's actually pretty obvious where we draw the line. If you cannot consent, that's where you draw the line.
A child cannot consent.
A full grown adult can consent.
@Karsten Fohler but she was also talking about acting on attraction
Yeah. . . consent is not the issue here.
We are each responsible for seeking righteousness before God. His standards are not our standards.
Christians are supposed to seek His righteousness in our life regardless of our human perspective or logic. As our intimacy with God increases, He renews our thinking, perception, desires, and dreams to bring Him glory. He's just awesome that way.
A sin is a sin there is no line
Kaden Mckercher so even mixed fabrics can be compared to paedophilia? (leviticus 19:19)
Yeh she had that all confused.
Come to think about it... Does the Bible mention pedophilia? I refuse to Google it. Jus wondering.
Dude called out the biggest problem I have with religion, people cherry pick the parts that they like and just ignore the stuff that they don't like.
A lot of religious people are hypocrites in this regard although there are many that aren't hypocritical like this. Similarly, many climate and othet activists are hypocrites by poluting the earth while also complaining that other people are to blame making them even more of hypocrites by trying to get others to do what they won't do.
One thing that decided me leaving Christianity. I was never really religious but once you start thinking about it there's a lot of contradictions of what is said in the Bible and how people behave/act, a whole lot of hypocrites. Same goes with muslims. I feel like one guy from the Muslim Middle Ground video said it best. With one hand he prays, with the other he sins.
They picked the wrong people for this. You saying religion as a whole cherry picks stuff is entirely false.
Starlight Galaxies name them then I will tell you if it applies to all religious people because Christianity and Mormonism are very different. Everyone interprets religion differently.
Starlight Galaxies interpreting something different is not the same as cherry picking. People who take the Bible word for word most likely don’t have a actual understanding of it.
I will never understand how Christians can preach love and acceptance and then tell someone that is born gay that they can't be in a relationship ever in there life or they would be going to hell. It's ignorant and hypocritical. It's disgusting
You're missing the point. Love the sinner, not the sin.
@@AmericanaNational ur missing the point. Everything I said up there is what Christians do.
@@grayfullbuster2545 You're wrong
@@AmericanaNational Being gay is not a sin.
@@breadsticck808yes it is
5:30 "homosexual activity is sinful, raping a child is sinful. We can argue about what's worse, or what's more acceptable" you HAVE to be kidding me. Those two things are completely different on every level and to think that a child being raped and someone being with someone that they find love in are comparable. She has to be crazy. It doesn't matter what you believe in at that point or what the bible says, or what point she was trying to get across, it was unnecessary and absolutely disgusting
Exaclty what you just said, homosexuality activity is sinful, rapping a child is sinful… she’s saying both of them are sinful they misread what she was saying
again, when did she ever said rɑpe?
@@user-ow1qs4sc6v having sex with a child is rape...
@@Sarah-rs1bz glad that I am not a Christian and don’t have to be around such hateful people
@@user-ow1qs4sc6v pedophilia is rape because a child can’t give consent to sex
When the lady compared child molestation to A Consensual gay relationship I was so mad and extremely Offended
Grown men with little boys huh you definitely never see that in the christen church
That’s not at all what she said and you know it. She was saying if we allow people to say “I can love / have sex with whoever I want” where do we draw the boundary line?
@@MrsYoung-in9ov the boundary line is when the person cannot consent ex. A Minor and in Gay relationship they can, theirs a difference
*triggered*
I dont care just so you know
@Spencer Tracy Okay then using your logic a man being attracted to a woman is the same as a man being attracted to a child. right?
The moment they brought up the question about the LGBT community, I was like: "Oh boy, here we go."
Same mate, same 😂
I think everyone started paying some real attention when that one came up
Samee bro!!
Same
I added a like to Jr music’s comment just so that it wouldnt remain at 666 likes (for obvious reasons) 😂
Love the way that one can literally see where you stand on an issue
I'm glad this conversation happened.
Christians are many, but Jesus followers are few...
True words my guy
this is so true!
I mean no judgment but I don’t think trayus reads the bible, and I’m not just saying that because he’s gay, even the things he says that doesn’t relate to homosexuality is not in line with what the bible actually says
@@wabackagainman0737 yes! I kept expecting them to say it was a prank and they threw in one guy who didn't consider himself a Christian
@@wabackagainman0737 like what? Nothing stuck me as overtly anti-Christian
I know she didn’t just compare homosexual activity to raping a child? What the actual heck.
Exactly
Toda Emma it’s very wrong. Just because we love who we love doesn’t mean we’re pedophiles and liars...
It’s most likely been read by Natalie she’s just making a point.. she’s saying both are sins.. not comparing the two .. chill out
Jack Attack just because we love who we love does not mean we’re living sins
Sin is sin
It’s the comment “it’s the same as liking little boys” woah! It’s absolutely not the same. I disagree as well but it’s NOT the same that was so wrong.
Jason was spot on!
Child abuse is the same as two loving consenting adults being together and harming no one??? WTF???
i think that we can all agree that this lady is crazy
Hanneke le Roux in a biblical sense of view ... yes
@ThatZoomer a child cant consent- i cant believe u just said that-
@ThatZoomer its pedophilia. the child can 'consent' but if you are under 16 and you have relations with an older man, it is considered pedophilia which is illegal. check ya facts before you try and argue a useless point.
@ThatZoomer A child is not a consenting ADULT, they dont understand what they are consenting to, which is why we dont consider it consent. Theres a reason children arent allowed to sign contracts or get married or do all the things adults can do, because they're frikken children and dont yet have enough maturity or life experience to make sound and informed choices. Also people who molest children usually groom, manipulate and emotionally abuse the kids as well, that's not consent. It's disgusting and cruel, and kids who experience sexual abuse are harmed in more ways than one.
But please explain to me what is morally wrong with two adults choosing to love each other, who happen to have the same gender. How is that the same? How does that harm anybody?
As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse myself, I deeply resent you comparing what I went through to that. The person who hurt me did it because he liked hurting me, that was the point, he liked making me scared. How could you possibly say that that man is no worse than, let's say, my gay uncle, who's been married for decades to an equally great guy, and took care of me when I moved to a new city alone? If you see no difference between these people then something's very wrong with you.
Comparing rape to being in a gay relationship hurt, even if I’m straight
Im bisexual and yea I was so shook
It’s more about the doctrine of following desires
Ńia Baĺĺard OMG same!
Idre A if I desire to eat chocolate, I’ll eat chocolate.
That’s what my mom says, it hurts every time
5:31 she did not just bring up queer love and r*pe in the same sentence 🤡💀
they’re both sins is what she was saying
@@NolanAnderson I just wonder if she'd agree that lying and raping a child are the same in sin as well
@@NolanAndersonBro, that's the same to compare judging someone and mol3sting a kid as being equal because both are sins. That argumment is not even real, all verses people read to make homosexual sex a sin are all hoaxes poorly translated or missed out of context. The whole discourse is so bonkers that I can't explain how bad of an argumetation this woman has
Jubilee yall need to get REAL Christians.
Did this woman just say pedofelia and homosexuality were the same thing ✋🏼😭
They share similar qualities, that’s what she meant
@@Lucy-nw4im They don't share similar qualities, though.
Ikr like throw her away
By “ the same “ she meant they are both sins not literally the same thing
@@thomasmannia they do....
The way homeboy said "girl" after the lady said "I'm a grown man; I like little boys" encapsulated how I was feeling exactly lmfao.
she has a point tho...having those innate desires are the same concept.
@@tyroneloki5131 there's so much wrong with that statement but I'm just gonna stick to the fundamental flaw in that logic. Children aren't evolved enough to have knowledge about sexual activities. Do not compare that to a perfectly rational homosexual adult.
tyrone loki it’s not the same thing. Children cannot consent, adults can. Regardless of gender, a child is hurt by sex, a consensual adult isn’t.
@@tyroneloki5131 I'm scared that you don't know the difference between a consenting adult and a child
Aquaman she speaks with a lot of logical fallacies , and absolutes. I would love to debate her lol
Not her comparing homosexuality to pedophilia I CANTT
She used it as an EXAMPLE on not to act on it.. Stop attacking people by mixing up the meaning.
2:50. I always think this is an interesting thing to say, "I love them, I just don't support them".
It doesn't matter how much you think you "love" someone if they don't feel loved by you. Some of the people who "love" us put us through conversion therapy, out us, and kick us out of their homes.
It doesn't mean anything for you to say you still "love" queer people, that you just "don't support their lifestyle". We don't feel loved by you.
The Bible says "love thy neighbor", but I think it'd be better if it said "Make thy neighbor feel loved".
Great point. Many people say they are showing love to others when really they are just being selfish and the person doesn't feel loved at all. I'm not a part of the LGBTQ+ community and can never truly understand their experiences. All I know as a Christian is that I am called to love people. It is not Christians' jobs to point out sins (or what they think are sins) to others. I am supposed to work on myself and ask the Lord to change me for the better. For people we have differences with, (political party, sexuality, race, etc.) the main question we should be asking is "How do I love them better?"
It does matter nobody needs to feel loved to be loved. Watch how this scolded for almost falling off a bridge by his parents he doesn't feel love however the amount of love that went into that scolding because of their genuine care for as well being is it still authentic. Love is the bastion of intent. As long as it's genuine love and not a misconception masquerading with the word love genuine desire to do something for the other person out of love cannot be taken away. If I bake someone cookies but I forget or didn't know that they are allergic to gluten it does not subtract from my intent to love that person. And to clarify will I have put it under the commons of someone else love defined biblically is an action not a feeling.
I think that phrase mostly means that I respect you as a human and I will not discriminate or cause you harm but your actions are what I cannot agree with.
I don't blame them we all have our religious beliefs and as long as they dont cause harm to anyone they should be respected.
It’s interesting, I love criminals, but don’t support their behavior, that’s the great thing about Christianity, when reading and understanding the Bible, there will be some challenges
@@liyahibrahim8809 👏👏👏👏
So if a 30 year old man likes another 30 year old man it's basically the same as him liking an 8 year old boy?
*Okay I leave...*
attraction wise, yes. If we're looking at it by barebones theyre basically the same idea. insert morality built by society then they're not and one is obviously disgusting and much worse.
@@galaxycraftings so by that logic, a man loving a woman is the same as a man loving a little girl?
@@grace19005 and the best reply award goes to you
G Menoś you’re slow if u think what he said is anything close to the same idea I’m saying
Ancient 6.6 that isn’t the barebones I was talking about bruh. I was talking about how both are equally anomalies in nature because the reason we even have sexual desire is to reproduce. When it’s directed toward something that can’t possibly create that result like underdeveloped ppl, other animals, and the same sex it’s an anomaly. I don’t get how me saying ‘barebones’ leads anything close to involving the normal function of relationships across majority of mammals. If it was then why would I even make the argument? Atleast ask what I mean before saying “weLl WhAt AbOuT a MAn AnD WoMan??” And i know u (the person I’m at’ing) didn’t say it but just in general cuz y’all rlly assumed my argument.
"Where do you draw the line?" CONSENTING. ADULTS. Not that difficult.
@@calebtesfamariam and exactly
I agree completely, but there are groups, and more mainstream ones, that are now saying that pedophilia is a a preference and not a choice. In essence they are born that way, and we need to except it as a sexual preference. There is a TED talk all about it. So when she says where do we draw the line, this is what I think she was going.
pankfull12 their really isn’t, those people exist but if you think the LGBT community accepts them you’ve been brainwashed son
@@thesepretzelssuckass247 Its gonna come, "Love is love" "Love has no age" in Muslim countries they've been giving 10 year old daughters into marriage for a long time now because their false prophet Muhammad at 60 years old married a ( 6 ) yo and had sex when she was 9 yo, smh. Not gonna be long till Jesus comes and throws these people into the lake off fire. God bless
@@mattMan24wazzaa Completely ignoring the fact that Mary was a child when she supposedly gave birth to Jesus, but only Islam has a weird stance on child wives I guess.
makes me so sick how they kept comparing pedophilia with homosexuality 😭 makes me so enraged
r/woosh
Bro why are you pressed and stressed about peoples opinions 💀go grow some balls
Fr
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Cope harder. It's the truth.
I don't understand how people think that two consenting adults having a loving relationship is the same as someone raping a child?
It just makes no sense.
I would be curious to see a version of: "Do all atheists think the same?"
We definitely don't, but I think our views align more with each other since we use reason to dispute our differences. So you would have closer agreements on a lot of issues than super polar opposites like Christians.
I’m and currently dating a Muslim and I’ve been torn between atheism / agonism and I’m not happy at all
And I can assure u all the Ibrahimc religions are the same!!! He said that no one believed in Jesus except Christians but no Muslims did too and they believe he was a prophet and that god saved him and didn’t get him killed and they believe in Abraham story and mariam aka marry they have the same opinions about the lgbt community as well taken from both Jews and Christians I try a lot to find ppl like me in my country but they’re missed up and I don’t approve of their life choices I feel like I can’t be with believers bc they’re brained washed but I can’t be w atheist too bc they want to be free from the society not from the idea of god I have a lot to say but I just wanna clarify how lucky other atheists who lives in free speech societies bc I can’t be free in my mind or in my relationships with my loved one or family or anything
It’s like being a gay person who don’t have a relationship bc he’s not open about it
I dated an atheist and they just keep an open mind. Live for today and not some afterlife, and believe that good and bad exists in everybody but that we all have morals that guid us by what we believe is foundementally right vs wrong as society sees it.
@@GrantTravels23 I'm guessing you are a Christian then. Nice to see some are open minded to date and talk to us. I know a lot of preachers that brainwash people into thinking we are all evil and everything bad that happens is because of atheists.
i believe atheists are always up for peaceful debates on opinions
that guy saying "girl, girl.. no." is my literal reaction to what she was saying
stan BTS uwu Lol same! And I love your name! STAN BTS! And I love BTS! Armyyy
Averi Pendergrass ???????????????????
Peaceful Shattered I’m taking about her profile name and profile pic. It’s BTS
@@joonssecretdaughter8301 yass! 💖
Peaceful Shattered I wasn’t commenting about the comment. I said nothing about the comment
I’m genuinely concerned for the people that think rape and pedophilia are equally sinful and related to being a part of the LBTQ community.
IF you understand the bible, you will know that there is no sin greater than the other, sin is just sin, and there is no major sin and minor sin contained in the bible.
James 2:10
The only sin greater than another is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, all Christians know this
tyler seems like a chill dude
when that girl compared child rape, to consensual gay relationships...I was legit offended
Me too. I really cannot stand it.
you still have no arguments against the reasoning tho!
@Blessing Osamudiamen So a kid can't give consent to like older people but he can totally define his gender and change his whole body for life depending on his choice (this is something supported by the lgbt community).
But that wasn't the point she was making, she is saying that: even though you have that "physical attraction" it doesn't mean it's good, and it's not love!!! In 0 cases of physical attractions that is love.
She is saying that even though you feel it you act differently because you know it's bad, she's not talking about the kid, she's talking about how the old man acts.
@@guillemvidal1958 Amen, brother! lol
But is being offended really a bad thing? It builds your character, and besides, all sins are equal, so they are both the same badness.
"Where's the line?" It's right exactly where consent is.
But then, the age of consent is not constant. It varies from state to state and country to country. 14 yr olds in Germany** can get married to grown adults and 12 yr olds in Nigeria can get married as well. in the U.S age of consent in some states is as low as 15, whereas in others its 16-18. So really, where is the line?
@@CO-ig3yw Surely not less than 18...
Consent is an unusable, out moded argument!
A bartender can consent to por you a drink but can't get you out of a DWI!
You can consent to take heroin but the law says it's illegal to do so.
C O as someone from Scotland, you are talking rubbish. It is widely known in our country and across Britain that the age of consent is 16 , the same age that you are legally allowed to marry. A 14 year old in Scotland wouldn’t be able to marry or give consent to sexual activity in the eyes of the law
But what about immediate family members???? As long as they’re consenting I guess...
Yeah I’d have to disagree.
Y’all really need to have Catholics in the mix here
Yikes the girl in the mustard colored shirt was so cringey. She has no idea what she’s talking about, makin herself look like a fool
y’all talking ab the lgbt conversation, but this asian guy really said god doesn’t love everyone the same 💀
Yeah, that's a good meaning question.
That part was weird! Because god does love everyone, Christian or non Christian, personally and deeply. He doesn’t love someone because of their actions or beliefs. If we are to believe that god is love, which is stated in the Bible, then he cannot not love someone. It is the core of his being.
Ayla Sansoul because he doesn’t exist
SRIRACHA_PENGUIN 42069 did u really just take the time out of ur day to comment that on a video about christians
SRIRACHA_PENGUIN 42069 if he “doesn’t exist” then don’t watch the video
“Do you support the LGBTQ+” “let’s make some enemies” SENT ME
Why would they support them? They should just let them be but I think it’s funny to be Christian and gay, like you can believe in god but keeping up with the Bible is just a waste of time god isn’t going to reward you with anything
No
@@omaraguirre8309 bruh everybody sins and "all sins are equal" what point are u trying to make?
@@omaraguirre8309 yeah because they do the classic pick and choose thing. Believing in the part of the bible they like and want to believe and rejecting the other teachings they don't like.
@@jetforceexe8170 yeah but you don’t understand that argument doesn’t work because we don’t need to follow the ceremonial laws that were given to the Israelites we follow the new laws so we don’t pick and choose we follow everything that was told to us that we need to follow
Just out of curiosity, are these all Protestant Christians from the 100+ different churches in the States? Would have been interesting to include Eastern Orthodox, Catholic, etc.
They never being catholic or orthodox christians 🤢
I think it’s absolutely wild that they couldn’t find a person who was straight and Christian who wasn’t homophobic. I just think it would have made the conversation so much better.
So you want a Christian who supports the lgbtq?
two strangers come out, right in front of you
*the amount of balls for that lady to **_strongly disagree_*
I found it extremely okay for her to disagree but her choice of words, didn't agree so much with that.
Stephanie George facts. Big facts
Stephanie George I agree with her... I don’t think we should just accept who people are, Jesus didnt accept everyone for who they are instead he tried to change their ways
YUM you can’t help who you are attracted to. Attraction isn’t something you can just change. Marcus André the Bible also says thou shall not commit adultery. Yet it is celebrated to commit that sin. I’m movies, in music, in culture it is encouraged to commit adultery. That sin is clearly just as wrong as homosexuality is made out to be in the Bible but no one is saying they will go to hell for it. No one says they don’t agree with that lifestyle because it is now normal behavior. That’s where Christianity becomes hypocritical because people want to choose which of gods laws they deem worthy to follow.
YUM throughout history people use the Bible as a weapon to hurt people. I’m gay and a Christian. My church fully accepts me for who I am. I even came out in a worship service. They love me. I’m even the youth elder for my church. And I’m 17. My pastors do not see it as a sin and low key I’d trust them more then you 😁. I think they interpret the Bible a lot better
Man, the LGBT question got worse response than with muslims.
What do you mean by worse than with Muslims? It is forbidden in both so why there's a comparison?
medea I think they meant the Muslim video.
@عائشہ چوھدری there talking about the specific video not muslims in dogmatic theocratic countries. Most Christian's countries werent much better either.
yes because they didn't get religious muslims
The lady thinks that straight people can not be pedophiles .
great video, really educational
I love Nicole's answer at 5:19
She's honest & she got points
her answer simplified is literally "i support homosexuality, but i don't support homosexuality"
Being attracted to a gender is NOT the same as being attracted to someones age (paedophilia)
iskander 21 you can’t be attracted to a number.
@@ludwigvancornwall3063 LMAO
That's just following the "I can love whoever I want" logic
@@LatIenws you can love whomever you want as long as the other person consents and loves you back
iskander 21 it’s not no. But the the term “love is love” allows that to be a thing
Yes, because sexually assaulting a child, is the same as loving a person of the same gender...? Where is the logic in that?
(One of my classmates found this, yikes, luckily we're friends)
(Now another one found it, yikes..)
I think she mean't that both seemed to 'feel' right/normal, at time? The attraction, that is?
U didn't get her point
It is a complex one, and easy to get wrong.
Not that I suspect she had an answer?
In the Christian belief it would be similar because they believe that in both situations it is two people who should not love each other. I don't think she was necessarily saying that it is just as bad, just that in her belief it is the closest "example" if you will.
How is it loving tho? It's just psysical lust
Im just glad they had each other 🤞🏼
Christianity is not a costume that can be worn, it is the choices you make in life
That conversation about the LGBT community made me lose SO many brain cells
How?
@@zealouslyCantankerous same, that gay guy in the vid is so wrong
Abe Tak Nah.
Abe Tak how?
@@abetak297 The thing is, he talked about how there are rules in the Bible about people dressing a certain way and eating certain things. That point is kind of invalid because all of those rules are in the Old Covenant. Once Jesus came and died, He established the New Covenant and the Mosiac Law in the Old Testament wasn't important anymore; Jesus himself said so when He established the new covenant. It still talks about homosexuality in the New Testament (after the New Covenant was established) in Romans and 1 Timothy and 1 Corinthians. But never once does it say that those people are hated or condemned or should be treated so (because the New Covenant is a whole lot of loving people).
There are so many divisions and sometimes we just need to agree to disagree instead of arguing because that will cause even more division. I'm just imagining getting to heaven someday and God laughing at our little arguments because we all are wrong in some way and I really can't wait to get to heaven someday and for Him to laugh and show me what I missed.
Girl:I'm queer
Other girl: *inteanse death stare*
Imogen Burger intense
😂😂😂😂 *she was going to faint*
To be fair, I don't see any cameras in the back of the room and she was looking towards the back of the room when that was said. The death stare seems to be from when she was standing on the Strongly disagree line so that could easily be editing. like 2:10 and 3:00 seem to be the same exact camera shot just zoomed out but she was standing in different locations looking in different directions.
Her eyes or face literally didn't change...
Imogen Burger me when I mention something gay in my family’s ear shot
Putting rapist in the same category or sentence of LGBT people is absolutely crazy.
Felt it beginning to go downhill after he threw that rock inside glass house, accusing his brother of picking from the religion. I also became disappointed in that sister comparing pedophilia and homosexuality. How did the video continued after the fifth minute?
5:18 Absolutely loved what she said!
When the girl compared being gay to a old man loving a boy 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
*raping
this gurl is crazy-
OMG IKR🙄
Pedophilia isn't loving a kid - it's abusing, raping, harassing, sexualizing a child.
a weird ass syndrome
Lets be honest. everyone only watched this for the LGBT question
Got me
Caught me by my ankles
Which isn’t a shocker. Even Stevie Wonder saw that coming
nah
Not me
The Asian guy was the most well spoken and most knowledgeable
he was not 💀
@@cozyjake then who was?
@@phillipmccoy3476 the black guy
@@cozyjakehe didn't say one biblical thing. It was all about, I should be able to pursue my sinful nature.
@@cozyjake He wasn't very biblical in his approach
You can clearly tell some of these people have not read the Bible..
which ones?
Producer : “Do you support the LGBTQ+ Community?”
Tea Kettle : *SCREEEEEEECH*
Jai Lorraine x it’s actually the LGBTQIA+ 😂 soon it will be the alphabet community
The Black Leftist Destroyer but what about the numbers.. they’ll feel left out :( (not being hateful or disrespectful to the LGBTQ+ .. I just thought it was a funny comment to make) 😂☺️
"I'm Christian"
Erin: "that's not vegan"
Sour patch kids are not vegan
Omg😂😂😂😂😂
Jinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn oppaaaaa
how are comments about Erin literally on EVERY SINGLE VIDEO BRUUUUH
@@dimitripeetree4208 haha idk 😂😂
It’s very interesting seeing the conservative and more liberal Christians and their points of view. I honestly wonder how divided the church is going to get lol.
This was super interesting
"I'M Queer" *camera cuts to yellow shirt lady who looks quite uncomfortable* lol
Narekah Baker ehh
She looked normal. She literally had a blank face.
Yellow?
you can tell who reads their bible and who doesn't know it.
Haha yes
You must not because everyone in this video knows next to nothing or nothing.
100%, i'm not christian and i know more than most of these "christians" lmao
There are dozens of ways to 'know' the Bible, and a variety of churches, so can we clarify THAT?
@@chrissonofpear1384what type of church accepts gays? the bible condemns it. what type of church accepts polytheism? the bible condemns it. there's no way around it if your own holy book condemns it all
I've watched this video before and wanted to rewatch it, but I apparently just can't handle as much as I could before.