The End?!?!?.... The Girl From the Other Side, Volume 11 by Nagabe
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My interpretation of the ending is that Teacher didn't give his soul away again and instead both halves (Teacher and Shiva) found a way to peacefully co-exist and come together within the single vessel of Teacher. This vessel is going to turn into a tree during their final "nap". In a divided world these two managed to exist together in their final moments
After reading the last volume I kinda think that Albert haven't actually given his soul to the dark one. Like, I have a strong feeling that the Shiva he was talking to all the time in the last chapter wasn't completely real. Besides he does remember his name in the end (and somehow Shiva knows it too, before he tells her), when as far as I understood he should have forgotten it if he had given his soul away. So, it seems to me that Albert decided not to actually nap, but to finally let his soul rest in peace
I took this away as well. Shiva and Teacher were held in one vessel; 'Mother' giving Shiva another chance to exist in this way. I think they went to their 'favourite' place to let Teacher's body take root, much like 'Auntie' did. As it was explained, both vessels were 'cursed' and would eventually lose purpose and become trees.
It’s confusing, I mean even though mother switched souls with shiva. Some of Shiva’s memories and will we’re still loosely left behind. But then again the story is non-conclusive and is up for interpretation due to being so open ended. I mean we still don’t know what happened to the rest of the infected insiders or who the whale creature is. Let alone the purpose of the black children who are birthed from it?
I personally think that the amulet was used by mother to make shiva being slowly turn back into shiva and they live happily in the cottage after walking from the nap :') if nagbe isn't giving us an answer I'm going to just draw a whole chapter of the happy ending and there not trees
Honest for me, them wishing each other "goodnight" at what looks to be just after noon seems very telling as to what their ultimate fate was. The teacher decided to share his souls instead of giving it up completely resulting in Shiva returning yet then now having drastically shorter lifespanst, the teachers also mentions that this was truly the right choice and the vessel that was Shiva clearly states that parts of the soul had been lost after several transfers and that their fate cannot change either she turns into a tree, or the teacher does depending on who gets to keep the soul but by sharing it, they get to momentarily co-exist, once more to spend their final days together in that place where she loved, along with where her aunt/grandma rests. Truly a bittersweet ending.
I honestly think the whole way they handled teacher and shiva being the same got a bit muddled, but a video I watched before got me thinking. They compared shiva and teacher and representing "child" and "adult". Using this one could interpret it as Teacher trying to protect the childhood of another, yet believing himself to have fail crumbled away (became a tree). However, That child returned and reminded teacher of his own childish spirit, his soul, and gave it back- restoring him. Yet, in doing so the child 'grew up', and teacher had to chose between returning to trying to protect the innocence of another or embracing that which resided inside of him- and in the way both are the same choice, but both have different meanings. To see one's childish self, one's innocent as a separate thing, or to take it as part of the whole?
Of course this interpretation is one of many and has a few holes. In truth I think that this story is supposed to be seen as a great combination of many things, and partway through things... flip. Suddenly one is brought to stop focusing as much on the brightness and light shiva brings Teacher, but rather the darkness that presses in, and the helpless struggle to keep everything as it once was. And then, near the end there, we see both, and I would say by the end we once again see the light, but now they hold greater understanding and acceptance of what it truly is. of course im just rambling here
I also dont really think we were ever meant to get all the answers- because, well, we never do understand everything. We may try and try, look and look, but in the end, sometimes we will just never find. And that's ok. Throughout the story Shiva and teacher had been dragged into bigger and bigger things and yet they always wished to return to the small gentle life they had. At the beginning in a way they were running away from the big, trying to ignore it and forget about it. But at the end they got a glimpse of the Huge- and even as they began to understand the big they returned to the small, and while forever changed they now knew the joy they once held for all it was worth, and that, even with the 'big' looming over, sometimes it's just the small that matters. It's the little moments, small gestures, the things stolen from time that shall forever remain precious long after they are gone. They can't fix everything, they can't fix the gods, but they can decide their own fate, their own path, and there is no right answer- it's a choice that shall be unknown, for it's their choice.
it's seriously hard to explain all my thoughts on the matter. It would take me a novel to explain everything
Just finished reading chapter 53 and I have mix feelings, a part of me is completely dissatisfied by the open ending but also there’s a part of me that is content with the way it ended, like the end was very fitting for the story. Like Shiva and Teacher were both a side of the same being I think that they somehow merge and the ‘Shiva’ Teacher is talking to is with in himself and not physically there, and they either died ‘as humans’ or got turn into trees next to grandma/auntie’s.
Wait so they died?!
Impossible! so that's why i don't see shiva face at the wnd of the chapter...
I’m here because I’ve been crying for the past few days…
Relatable 💯
I do get it's a very character driven story, I've very recently been able to appreciate that as a bigger focus than the world story happening around the characters. I know the very end is as to the fate of the characters is suppose to be a mystery/up to yourself, but still I just feel like I'm missing just a tiny bit more to be fully satisfied
This story had the potential of being another masterpiece like attack on titan. This story portrayed so many dark realities of humanity and harsh outcomes, I think those who read this also wondered about who are the real monsters, the outsiders or the insiders... This story could have raise a whole more moral dilemmas and contradictions. But despite of the incomplete ending it was easily one of the best manga that I read.
I was kind of really shocked when I got to the ending. I didn't expect it at all, though I probably should have. I thought that the series was still on-going while I was reading it. I had just picked it back up a few days ago after remembering the title while at the bookstore.
I wasn't sure where it would go after the newest revelation between teacher and Not Shiva, but I thought it was going to go somewhere. I can't say I'm not kind of disappointed by the ending, because I am. Bittersweet endings for me always are. But at the same time It does keep in with the same feeling the rest of the story had. I guess I just wanted more of a resolution for the various problems. The curse, mother/father, the villagers and the consequences of their actions, the fight back with the king and priest- there was just a lot left unclear. All of which still seemed to have a likely affect on the protagonists.
My interpretation of the ending is that instead of keeping the soul or giving it away, Teacher sort of...fused with shiva? Like she was there, but part of him also. Not exactly in a "my childhood innocence" sense but more like just...existing together as two entities but as one. I'm not sure what this would imply for Not Shiva though.
I do also wonder like... So, Shiva is just Albert's soul in a different vessel. Then, how did albert/teacher still act as he did for all that time? It didn't take long at all for others to fade away, so why did he? And later with "giving his soul" to shiva to cure her? Doesn't that mean he still had a soul somehow?
Also, what was with the priest supposedly hearing from their god that shiva was the cure? If the vessel was just another Dark Child, why would he want it?
I dont know, theres still a LOT thats left up to guessing, and thats something that always irks me. But, I do appreciate they didn't just outright say "and then they died
*spoilers* This series is one of my personal favourites and I personally loved this ending, it had a beauty to the fact that the story was always about shiva and teacher and they were never destined to change the world they just existed for eachother in the end of their shared life and I like to think they did spend their last moments together and happy which was heartbreaking but I think it was the perfect ending for what it was.
i don't get the ending
Good explanation
This story was said in terms of soul passing on back and forth. But it's also can be seen metaphorically in terms of clones. Shiva was like a clone of Albert that he saved, cared, loved, later discovered she was just a part of him, like a clone of him, made of his genes. And again, that entity who stole the gene (soul) from Albert was again another clone of the so called 'Mother' , as it's said they are pieces of the mother herself, just like her clones. Basically, it was the story of only Albert himself living a life with one he so dearly loved as family ended up discovering he was just living with a part of him, never a real soul or human, even if the ending was peaceful, it was extremely tragic overall, trully tragedy and unexpected.
LOVED how she called him a “being” instead of a “monster” like other people do on their reviews 😭❤️ the ending girl THE ENDING I still can’t cope with it but I loved the manga a lot
Omg I’m glad I’m not the only one confused. I wanted to know what happened to the humans in the village. I think Albert is talking to himself when talking to Shiva. I’m so puzzled that Shiva started the curse? And who is mother? Wahh I know I probs missed the answers.
I believe Mother is implied to be the leader of the Black Children and not the whale creature.
@@lowinlofi1398 mother is not the whale creature. That's just a newly made black child. Mother is the god of darkness / earthly mother mentioned several times. At least that's my interpretation.
I don't believe Shiva started the curse? The black children state that the curse is simply a side effect of mother creating them.
the ending to all this lowkey confused me tho
I’m glad I’m not the only one
Same
Samee
I know right the black children “god” forgot her name basically switched the souls between Albert and Shiva was really confusing
@Félix It disproved the shiva is Alberts daughter theory because shiva was a black child. The black child(who has no soul) stole alberts soul and became shiva, Shiva cannot exist without Alberts soul.
Running to this video because i just finished vol 11 but keep wondering and what's going on with the ending.. or maybe it's only my stupidity not to able understand the ending.
I think Albert gave the soul to the dark one but the experiment didn't go entirely well: Shiva did come back, but could not manifest entirely physically. It was more like an individual, sentient persona living inside Teacher and they both interacted within him. His days we nearly over so they went back to their first home and the ending is just Teacher and Shiva in their favorite place waiting for him to become a tree. Not what we would have hoped for, but fitting and expected. What bothered me deeply is how the whole human/king/high priest/God of Light conflict just... stopped. The king died, no clue of what happened with the treacherous high priest, soldiers stopped chasing Shiva around. Why did they stop? We are never shown that the people actually believed the king and took his side, they were all on the High Priest's side until Shiva escaped. And what about the god's machinations to recover his body? I feel like that whole conflict would have taken 200 more books to be solved and well, Teacher didn't have that long, so no closure for us. It's understandable, but unpleasant still after such a long, emotional story.
A bonus volume is going to be realesed also an oad is going to be released.
What’s at oad
Hopefully it explains some plot holes
Original Anime DVD
Came here cause I just finished reading the whole 53 chapters and I'm in the middle of understanding and at the same time left mind boogled as to what just happened. Help T u T
ME TOO AAAAH im to confused but sad but shocked at the same time
I really needed this to help get my thoughts together on this ending. Thank you!
I like the message of Volume 11, the way Teacher must embrace the march of time regardless of his choice (though to me, despite it being an 'open ending', felt like it was obvious in what he chose and even if I'm wrong about which choice he made, am confident that his goal was the same)
Though I do not like the the way volume 10 paved its path;
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I dont mind the IDEA of the nature of their two-sides of a coin existence, but I really do think that because Shiva didn't have at least an earlier human life/family before Teacher, it weakens their relationship a bit. Post-resurrection of Albert, the concept of the leaking part of his soul forming to create Shiva feels off, like he willed an entity to help cope with the perils of eternity and replacing his human child, which would be a great story on its own, but I don't think it was what Nagabe was honing in on.
One could argue, and rightfully so, that what is real and what matters is defined by the individuals, but to me It robbed Shiva of her backstory and connection with Teacher during their early days;
That Teacher took her in BECAUSE it was what the previous cottage owners did for him, because it was in his nature to help.
That Shiva, despite apparently having a human family to return to, was in no rush to leave Teacher's side.
The cruelty of time, chance and the beauty of the connections we form in this short time and choices we make in a hostile world,
was dampened on me because their meeting wasn't really chance and with that, Shiva's existence didn't make sense.
There's no indication that The Black Children had the capability to accidentally form a functioning human child with pre-set false memories and knowledge.
I'm sorry, it felt hollow, unnecessary and almost cheap.
I think Nagabe honed in too much on the same-coin idea that it sapped away at what I felt was, pre-volume 10's reveal, a relationship that could still reach Volume 11 goals. It could've still portrayed the events in the lake, with the possibilities and power of Mother offering a path towards the final panels of V11
I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that she did have a previous life. At minimum she lived through a time with auntie. Thus, teacher also says that he might've been there for seven years after been transformed, which is the assumed age of Shiva. So, I understand that when the vessel turned into shiva it lived the whole live until the events of the story.
@@bigorna4875 she did live a short time with auntie. At least a few years considering she grows quite a bit before she's banished away
I enjoyed this story, but I felt that it needed a conclusion. We will probably see a conclusion in the animation if they decide to give us one.
I found this video…because after finishing volume 11 several months ago…I’m still feeling a *tad* salty. It was nice to feel the solidarity I did when watching this-I agreed wholeheartedly with everything you said. Thank you!
Side note, I can’t believe you made this video in one take! That’s incredible. Well done!
So many… so many unanswered questions
That last volume just took my soul
The last time an ending left me so confused was when I finished Evangelion. This was just as confusing tbh
Can someone refresh me on what the “Nap” was again?
I found this out recently but I think it’s really cool that siúil a rúin described the story or at least teachers mindset which it translates to “go/walk my love” and how he wants to stay with shiva and also find a way to free her from this cure
Do we ever find out who that hooded character was that secretly met Shiva when she was locked up in the castle?
that was the king.
Remember we only don't think it's the King because one the first conversations the hooded figure has with Shiva is to shun the king with his incapability to use violence when he believed necessary. As such, we can infer that while he did truly have a heart condition as he stated, the thought of violence (especially to a child like Shiva) aggravated his illness.
But as shiva reveals the fate of the black children, something that was contradictory to his beliefs about the great father / mother (and by extention, the curse), he went on a search for knowledge within his private library that would lead him to the old cathedral and its hidden sanctum.
When Shiva asked the knight (that knew albert) to thank the hooded figure, The knight asks "is this what you hoped for, your majesty?" once shiva is gone
@@renzbolado153 oh I see. Thank you!!
I finished The girl from the other side 2 days ago but there are some things that I don't understand at all.
In first place, Shiva is supposedly immune, but when she begins to show symptoms of the curse, the doctor gives her his soul to heal. But then in the last volumes the black creature that became Shiva tells him that his soul is Shiva, that he is the body stripped of the soul. So, where are we? If the doctor has no soul because the soul is Shiva, what did the doctor give Shiva to heal her??? It's silly but I don't understand it and it frustrates me xD
And to finish, if the doctor gives the soul to the creature at the end so that Shiva comes back (assuming that happens, because the ending is a bit open ended) does that mean the doctor will die and become a tree?
Please HELP hahaha
Am I dumb? This whole time, I thought her name was Silvia.
It’s confusing, I mean even though mother switched souls with shiva. Some of Shiva’s memories and will we’re still loosely left behind. But then again the story is non-conclusive and is up for interpretation due to being so open ended. I mean we still don’t know what happened to the rest of the infected insiders or who the whale creature is. Let alone the purpose of the black children who are birthed from it?
The purpose of the black children birthed from mother is to reclaim the part of the earthly mother / God of darkness that is within every human: Their "soul". At least that's my interpretation based on what's told in the story. The infected insiders likely all turned into trees due to the curse and the whale creature is just a child of mother / black child that was newly created during the soldier's fight with Teacher
Also I'm curious what you mean by "mother switched souls with shiva"?Shiva? I'm aware this comment is old so sorry for bothering you.
Oh? I thought the whale was the current form of the dark goddess? That being a dark child makes more sense.
My theory is that Shiva and Mother switching souls happened when (child shiva) gave Albert back the locket and turned into mother losing her memories of shiva. Could it be that shiva is a cognition/thought made up by Albert. Or I think it could be a something involved with the goddess of light that we haven’t be told
tldr; so Shiva catfishes Albert and he's all like 'I don't remember nothing', then stuff happens and they turn into trees 🌲🎄
Just finished the manga and found this video. I think I just happened to be in the right head space for the ambiguous/bittersweet ending because I do usually want everything wrapped up in a neat bow. We really didn't get a lot of info about what happened regarding the Insiders except for the throwaway comment in V11 about them branching out to where they used to live again. I'm ultimately okay with that because what I, at least, was focusing on mostly at the end was the restoration (or not) of the relationship between Shiva and Albert. Their relationship drove the whole series, so it was appropriate in my mind to just end it on them. Excited to read the side stories now, though.