Is p0rn cinema?

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  • čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
  • Are adult movies cinema?
    There are various examples of films that are made for adults blurring the lines of narrative films.
    Paul Thomas Anderson's Boogie Nights perfectly shows you how the industry works - but can the industry be taken seriously.
    Especially, as celebs like Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton and others hijacking the industry for personal gain.
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  • @gamervet4760
    @gamervet4760 Před 26 dny +22

    "Supreme Court says pornography is anything without artistic merit that causes sexual thoughts, that's their definition, essentially. No artistic merit, causes sexual thoughts. Hmm... Sounds like... every commercial on television, doesn't it? You know, when I see those two twins on that Doublemint commercial? I'm not thinking of gum. I am thinking of chewing, so maybe that's the connection they're trying to make." Bill Hicks

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 19 dny +1

      BiLL Hicks...my 2nd fave comedian ever!

    • @gamervet4760
      @gamervet4760 Před 19 dny

      @MarcusFlemmings Mine, too. My first is George Carlin, and 3rd is Dennis Leary. 😁

    • @gamervet4760
      @gamervet4760 Před 19 dny

      @MarcusFlemmings Which you should watch Rescue Me. Easily in my top 5 shows, I rewatch.

    • @gamervet4760
      @gamervet4760 Před 19 dny

      @@MarcusFlemmings Especially the part with his dead friend. More true to life than they'd ever care to admit.

  • @robsterrenburg6074
    @robsterrenburg6074 Před 25 dny +8

    No. Everything shown in the film should serve the film itself. Porn is like a worse version of showing action for action's sake. A kiss in a film could tell a great deal about a story and its characters, but it's completely unnecessary to show any genitalia in a sex scene.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 24 dny +2

      I feel like I agree with you - there was a time when the art form was aiming for something more nuanced but that day has gone! Thanks for the comment! Stick around!

  • @ChristopherPhillips
    @ChristopherPhillips Před 26 dny +11

    Im surprised you didnt mention Gaspar Noe's "Love", surely one of the closest when it comes to blurring the lines (good video of course!)

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 26 dny +2

      Great shout! And comment! Yeah, there's so many more. Love didn't do so well. Nym--- did much better so stuck with that that - do stick around!

  • @WhyteNoize859
    @WhyteNoize859 Před 26 dny +11

    Brilliant, informative, and perfectly landed with the Chris Pratt "come back" joke. 👍👈

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 19 dny +1

      You're a star my friend! Thanks for jumping on last night!

  • @mart4144
    @mart4144 Před 4 dny

    Nice history overview, and love the editing! Keep up the good work 👍

  • @veev2126
    @veev2126 Před 7 dny

    this is really good. glad to see you are finding an audience

  • @maynardwayward12
    @maynardwayward12 Před 26 dny +6

    I really don't know how anyone can beat it to Nymphomaniac or The Idiots

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 26 dny +2

      I'm sure people have found a way to! Big love for the comment! Stick around!

  • @zakuraiyadesu
    @zakuraiyadesu Před 26 dny

    Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!

  • @MorningStarScorpio
    @MorningStarScorpio Před 26 dny +4

    Shortbus, the second feature by John Cameron Mitchell, who did the absolutely brilliant Hedwig and the Angry Itch, is a film that both has a strong narrative and is pornography. I wouldn’t call it a great film, but my god is it interesting.

  • @willienelsongonzalez4609
    @willienelsongonzalez4609 Před 26 dny +4

    I’m ok that porn isn’t classed as cinema and that cinema isn’t classed as porn ….. but we live in some crazy times and anything can happen, I mean heck a corrupt businessman and game show host became President …..

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex Před 6 dny +1

    If the sex scenes serve a porpoise, but even without them the film is a good film, then yes. Example, Bible Black H anime.

  • @AmityvilleFan
    @AmityvilleFan Před 26 dny +3

    This was fast. And while "adult films" are most of the times just nudity on screen, try these titles:
    - Nekromantik (1988)
    - Elke (1995)
    - Madame Hollywood (2002)
    - The Bare Wench Prject (this is a sereis of movies, doing the same story over and over with slight iterations. Pick your favourite and stick to that.)
    There was also a Monique Parent flick where she played a woman hunted by a serial killer, gets police protection etc. - turns out she is the killer. If someone knows the title, please tell me.
    ------
    As for the video: I was shocked to see the field went instantly straight into fetish-territory (the 1898 one).

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 25 dny +1

      I know, us humans know what we like...straight to f-t-h!

  • @entertainmentpowerfuchs5744

    Too be honest Flesh Gordon 1974 and Dinosaur Island 1994 are truly art.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 21 dnem

      Heard of the former! But not the other one! Thanks for the comment :)

  • @barry4649
    @barry4649 Před 26 dny +1

    I want to merge the two in the future after I’m done film school

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 19 dny

      Do it! That would be awesome!

    • @barry4649
      @barry4649 Před 19 dny

      @@MarcusFlemmings I’m surprised it hasn’t been done in like a Tv series or something where it’s an actual engaging drama but there’s hardcore porn in every episode because men are horny all the time and would watch it

  • @GoblinMeng
    @GoblinMeng Před 25 dny

    People always criticise superhero movies on how they always know how the movies will end but i always know how these movies will finish

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 24 dny

      Hahhaa! Great argument for the artform! Love it :) Stick around - subscribe!

  • @ATownLikeMusic
    @ATownLikeMusic Před 26 dny

    There's a German short film called "Hotel Desire", directed by Sergej Moya which is a beautiful little film that is artistic, has a plot, and an emotional payoff that also contains unsimulated sex.

  • @SewerTapes
    @SewerTapes Před 17 dny

    My favorite film to feature full penetration scenes is Thriller: A Cruel Picture (Sweeden, 1973). I think p0rn can be cinema. It just happens to be a genre where little to no effort can turn a relatively massive profit, so it was co-opted/dominated by non-artists cranking out cheap trash, exponentially compounded by the rise of cheap video cameras. It happened to horror as well, just to a lesser extent. Super interesting topic, Marcus. You never fail to surprise me. Cheers, mate.

  • @mariafernandaparedes975
    @mariafernandaparedes975 Před 26 dny +2

    omg, I watched Coca Sarli movies on Sunday afternoons on open television at the tender age of 6 years old😂😂

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 19 dny

      WHAT??! No way! Pahhaha! Someone should have stopped you!

  • @superspazzninja5297
    @superspazzninja5297 Před 24 dny

    Uh, that's Skylar Vox in the thumbnail. If anyone is wondering?

  • @alfsmith7210
    @alfsmith7210 Před 25 dny +3

    No it's not. Did you really have to ask?

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 23 dny +1

      I sure did and the video gives some valid reasons as to why it had to be asked :) thanks for the comment!

  • @nl3064
    @nl3064 Před 20 dny

    I would say, depends on the movie. You mentioned I Am Curious (Yellow) - which is more softcore erotica - that was a very decent movie, and certainly had artistic merit. Some of the other high-end golden era titles, especially, I would argue, the films of Radley Metzger - I would lightly count as cinema.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 20 dny

      You know your stuff! Love it! I'm not as well versed despite the research for this video - thanks for the comment! Stick around!

  • @vinemogo1245
    @vinemogo1245 Před 26 dny +2

    Interesting Video

  • @johnkenobi
    @johnkenobi Před 24 dny

    The Idiots was at the 1998 Cannes - not 1988

  • @myfootballjesus
    @myfootballjesus Před 24 dny

    they dont even make FULL LENGTH XXX fims anymore they just make short features

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 24 dny

      That's very true! It started off as trying to replicate film but has now turned into something else! Thanks for the comment :) Stick around!

    • @takyON207
      @takyON207 Před 21 dnem

      Of course they do

  • @Melancholic_Loner
    @Melancholic_Loner Před 22 dny

    Did the old version of this video get removed?

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 22 dny +1

      Nah :) this is the original version! Unless CZcams have edited it....

    • @Melancholic_Loner
      @Melancholic_Loner Před 22 dny

      @@MarcusFlemmings oh fair enough I just got the notification for it twice

  • @mutav2166
    @mutav2166 Před 25 dny +3

    NO

  • @Mike_v_E
    @Mike_v_E Před 24 dny

    You have Letterboxd?

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 24 dny +1

      I don't - but have been recommended it! Thanks for the comment :) Stick around! Sub :)

  • @Ary-kq4xk
    @Ary-kq4xk Před 26 dny

    Yes

  • @DatCat-vj5kg
    @DatCat-vj5kg Před 24 dny

    no

  • @SupunGimhan-hp7qw
    @SupunGimhan-hp7qw Před 25 dny

    TARANTINO theory

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 24 dny

      You think it's not cinema?

    • @SupunGimhan-hp7qw
      @SupunGimhan-hp7qw Před 24 dny

      @@MarcusFlemmings Hey first
      maybe you know I am the same guy that asked ur fav p*star
      anyway I think it is cinema

    • @SupunGimhan-hp7qw
      @SupunGimhan-hp7qw Před 24 dny

      @@MarcusFlemmings Eg: Gasper noes french film Love
      And I saw somewhere
      Tarantino did work at a porno theatre

    • @SupunGimhan-hp7qw
      @SupunGimhan-hp7qw Před 24 dny

      @@MarcusFlemmings I think it is good, if you do a video to show some porno scenes in great movies
      EX: there,s nipple scene in the godfather
      A clockwork orange

  • @GopalSingh01
    @GopalSingh01 Před 26 dny +1

    Who is on the thumbnail of video?

  • @rickriffel6246
    @rickriffel6246 Před 24 dny

    Is cinema porn?

  • @SUK2293
    @SUK2293 Před 25 dny

    Or, is cinema porn?

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 25 dny

      OR both! Thanks for the comment! Do subscribe, would love to keep you around :)

  • @pedrorocha9722
    @pedrorocha9722 Před 24 dny

    No! But... are you putting deep throat in the same bag as last tango? Cos.... they aren't. They never were. Cinema verité?..... No no no no.....

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 24 dny

      Love this comment! Thanks :) I was indeed putting it in the same bag, for context - all films that have adult content were grouped together for the purpose of exploring the subject in the most fair way possible. Especially their impact on culture - rather than just the film community and cinephiles :)

  • @thirst-to-be-awaken
    @thirst-to-be-awaken Před 26 dny +3

    marcus we get it ur a fapper

  • @Black.Sabbath
    @Black.Sabbath Před 26 dny +1

    You don’t sound that black

    • @Mike_v_E
      @Mike_v_E Před 26 dny +5

      Wtf does that even mean? You think every black person sounds like 50 cent? 😂

    • @Black.Sabbath
      @Black.Sabbath Před 26 dny

      @@Mike_v_E You can’t tell from someone’s voice when they’re black?

    • @Mike_v_E
      @Mike_v_E Před 26 dny

      @@Black.Sabbath no, and apparently you can't either

    • @Black.Sabbath
      @Black.Sabbath Před 26 dny +1

      @@Mike_v_E Sorry don’t believe you

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Před 26 dny +2

      Maybe you haven't met enough black people?

  • @BrofessorDOOM
    @BrofessorDOOM Před 26 dny +4

    Yes