EmulationStation Update: Why We Can't Have Nice Things

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  • čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
  • ES-DE (EmulationStation Desktop Edition) for Android has been delisted from the Amazon Appstore. Let's talk about what happened and how you can still enjoy this frontend on your favorite Android devices.
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    ES-DE for Android guide: • EmulationStation on An...
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 introduction
    00:47 what happened
    02:58 how to get the app now
    04:22 refunds from Amazon
    05:35 installing the new APK
    07:35 Yuzu and Nintendo
    08:23 summary and conclusion
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Komentáře • 593

  • @ES-DE_Frontend
    @ES-DE_Frontend Před 4 měsíci +603

    Thanks Russ for this great video and for taking the time to cover this unfortunate event. But like you stated in the video, hopefully this will lead to something better in the long run. And to clarify, I think there is near 0% chance that there will ever be a Google Play release of ES-DE. Patreon is likely the way to go.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před 4 měsíci +71

      Thanks for the clarification!

    • @jakesmith5278
      @jakesmith5278 Před 4 měsíci +7

      A shame indeed. Guess we are coming to Patreon.

    • @snart
      @snart Před 4 měsíci +10

      Thank you for this front end - you are a rock star!

    • @Loknath009
      @Loknath009 Před 4 měsíci +6

      I guess this was for the best for everyone, I hope you get enough people to support your amazing work. I’ll be there as soon as my RG556 arrives.

    • @uhu4677
      @uhu4677 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Is there any chance, that you will expand ES into something like RetroArch at some point?
      Like RA and ES combined into one application?

  • @PM-xc8oo
    @PM-xc8oo Před 4 měsíci +303

    This from Amazon that sells a sea of cheap Chinese devices that are full of thousands of completely illegal ROMs.

    • @james_tiberius_kirk73
      @james_tiberius_kirk73 Před 4 měsíci +6

      I have about 4 of them 😅

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah... Amazon clearly doesn't care much about the law or doing what's right... they just care about profit. They're notorious for treating workers poorly, and they've created an entire ecosystem of Amazon-exclusive ways to scam customers, but they also ban people like ES-DE trying to do legitimate business.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Not just handhelds too, but R4s as well.

    • @documentthedrama8279
      @documentthedrama8279 Před 4 měsíci +11

      lets.....not draw attention eh
      they probably arent aware or are being purposefully dumb to avoid legal issues

    • @postplays
      @postplays Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@documentthedrama8279
      Dummies gonna dumb. This is garnering unneeded attention to the emulation scene by a big company like Amazon.

  • @19CD91
    @19CD91 Před 4 měsíci +665

    Doesn't amazon sell those 5000 in one game carts that are just roms lol

    • @pieceofschmidtgamer
      @pieceofschmidtgamer Před 4 měsíci +63

      I literally bought my RG351P that was preloaded with ROMs and BIOS files on Amazon, lol...

    • @19CD91
      @19CD91 Před 4 měsíci +73

      @@pieceofschmidtgamer its laughable because they say "facilitates piracy" thats so reductive and broad you could apply it to almost anything. Better not sell hard drives and sd cards. Better not sell computers. 😅

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint Před 4 měsíci +21

      They even sell usb drives stuffed full of rooms even 😂

    • @RandomPlaceHolderName
      @RandomPlaceHolderName Před 4 měsíci +9

      Those are older gen games. It's perfectly understandable for Nintendo to be touchy about its current gen being emulated so widely.

    • @romangleyzer4567
      @romangleyzer4567 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Allegedly

  • @hihellokitty85
    @hihellokitty85 Před 4 měsíci +85

    LOL. Amazon allows sellers to sell like 8TB filled with pirated games.

    • @HUYI1
      @HUYI1 Před 4 měsíci +3

      the irony right? LOL

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper Před 4 měsíci +8

      They're happy to profit from things which are illegal or immoral, but as soon as something is actually good for the end user or threatens any big corporations, they pull out the banhammer.

    • @pegcity4eva
      @pegcity4eva Před 4 měsíci +4

      And prohibited weapons

    • @edu5257
      @edu5257 Před 4 měsíci +1

      no, not amazon, check the seller again.

  • @pmmcrobb
    @pmmcrobb Před 4 měsíci +195

    Took me two minutes to get the refund. That being said, they said they’d do it as an “exception” for being an excellent customer. No, you delisted the app, I have a right to a refund lol.

    • @dalewilliams8077
      @dalewilliams8077 Před 4 měsíci +52

      They said exactly the same to me: "as a one off exception we can process a refund". My response was "I'm not happy that you're trying to make out you're doing me a favour by doing something that you are mandated to do by law"

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper Před 4 měsíci +23

      Meanwhile, despite having spent like 15 years posting detailed reviews about products in a field where I have deep expertise, marked by thousands of people as "helpful", I'm now banned from posting Amazon reviews for reasons they refuse to explain. I'm guessing it's because I sometimes point out when the product descriptions are false, and give the actual correct specs.

    • @TheBrandonn
      @TheBrandonn Před 4 měsíci

      companies always say this bs lol

    • @oktosite_
      @oktosite_ Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@ToyKeeper Wait, did I just stumble upon _the_ ToyKeeper of Anduril fame in these comments? I love my Anduril flashlights and they have unironically made my life as a visually impaired person just that little bit better, so thank you!

    • @rchgmer863
      @rchgmer863 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@ToyKeeperdoing god's work 🫡

  • @DeadVoivod
    @DeadVoivod Před 4 měsíci +14

    The great part about ES is that I also use it already on many devices and keeping the scraped content is really helpful instead of having it to scrape again, like with Daijishō. Plus having a familiar frontend is also great.

  • @arbbo1675
    @arbbo1675 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Thanks for this video. I subbed to the Patreon and will keep it subbed for a few months or so to support the developer. I have been waiting for Emulationstation on Android for years.

  • @crystal_is_cozy
    @crystal_is_cozy Před 4 měsíci +12

    Thanks for the update! I just purchased the Patreon app.

  • @mmpsp693
    @mmpsp693 Před 4 měsíci +38

    This situation is ridiculou. Hope everything works out for the best

  • @gregmasciola3332
    @gregmasciola3332 Před 4 měsíci +13

    I'm just glad we can still get the app and also agree going through Patreon seems like less of a hassle.

  • @portnaluinge
    @portnaluinge Před 4 měsíci +26

    I agree that, in the long run, the move to Patreon is likely for the best. I hope this isn't a crackdown on emulation on Android though.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 Před 4 měsíci

      No, it's not good. Patreon is shit. They'll deplatform you just because

    • @ekinteko
      @ekinteko Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@alfwok
      Well, the truth is that Nintendo expects some level of piracy. But they are REALLY agitated by the likes of Valve and the SteamDeck. Also by the AYN Odin2 to some extent. That's who they really would like to target.

    • @ekinteko
      @ekinteko Před 4 měsíci +5

      Also I think Nintendo is a lot at fault here with the NSwitch. Let's just say they made it pocketable.... well, now it's a different category of device.
      Or better yet, if they took my advice instead: use modern technology! If they had it with 8x Cortex A73, downclocked to save power, and with 256GB Storage and 8GB RAM to allow modern game development. And have the chipset built using 14nm FinFet instead of the 22nm-Planar silicon. Maybe make the iGPU decent to be able to pull off something like 720p, 30fps, Low Settings. Then when you attach it to the Dock, it does a few things. It Fast Charges the device, it cools it down with Fans, it ramps up the CPU clocks, and lastly it activates the eGPU. That way you this hypothetical "Kangal Switch" actually has decent performance behind it, and it gets ports for games that were also released for the XB1 and PS4.
      Also this higher ceiling of performance actually SLOWS the development and the speed of emulation. The Wii released in late 2006 and was cracked instantly. The Wii was much weaker than its direct competitor PS3, and that last one wasn't hacked or emulated until over a decade. In fact, the 2002 Xbox itself is much more powerful than the Wii, it is laughable.
      Nintendo saves BILLIONS by selling hardware at exorbitant prices whilst using cheap components. Greedy. Well the result of that is emulation. You can't have it both ways.

    • @EmuQuest
      @EmuQuest Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@alfwoknot true, read the document there is zero mention of a Patreon

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan Před 4 měsíci

      You can sell emulators. There is no law against it. Stop simping.@@alfwok

  • @marksemczyszyn
    @marksemczyszyn Před 4 měsíci +3

    Solid video Russ. Now it’s not on the Amazon App Store, I’m happy to take the plunge and support developers directly.

  • @chronossage
    @chronossage Před 4 měsíci +317

    Considering Nintendo is suing yuzu right now I can only hope this isn't the start of a big emulation crackdown.

    • @Sharp931
      @Sharp931 Před 4 měsíci +46

      Nintendo managed to be worse than Oracle.

    • @Madblaster6
      @Madblaster6 Před 4 měsíci +37

      They're not exactly suing about the emulator. They're looking at their instructions on getting keys and such.

    • @thatguywiththevoice2309
      @thatguywiththevoice2309 Před 4 měsíci +22

      Doesn’t it tell you how to get the keys legally? Like from your own switch?

    • @Lucifronz
      @Lucifronz Před 4 měsíci +8

      Wouldn't really matter. The apps don't need a storefront in order to be installed on your devices. You can just sideload it.

    • @Madblaster6
      @Madblaster6 Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@thatguywiththevoice2309 That's the question. It's not illegal or legal atm but Nintendo is arguing it's instructions to break their encryption so it should be illegal.

  • @bluegeorgeee
    @bluegeorgeee Před 4 měsíci

    Nice video, getting closer to the half million subs!

  • @RobyMicrobi
    @RobyMicrobi Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hey! I love how you customised your Odin 2. Do you think you could do a video tutorial xplaining how you did it and where you bought the buttons and everything?

  • @TheCoolDave
    @TheCoolDave Před 2 měsíci

    Ordered ES-DE as soon as knew it was available. Mainly got it for my Android Cell phone but, I use it with my KT-R1 and your other video worked awesome for the loader.

  • @user-vt9wy5cm2s
    @user-vt9wy5cm2s Před 4 měsíci

    Hello Russ, been watching for a year. Love your videos, first comment for me. Would love a tutorial on where you bought your black and colored accessories on odin 2 and how to install. My odin 2 is coming in a week and your white odin 2 with your changes convinced me to buy it.

  • @chrisumali9841
    @chrisumali9841 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day

  • @izzykazoo7569
    @izzykazoo7569 Před 4 měsíci +14

    Can't wait for the streisand effect to start

    • @washuai
      @washuai Před 4 měsíci +2

      Not only will people that don't already know hear, about it. This will prod people to dump their games and share. More specifically, a rush to download the entire Nintendo catalog, just in case.

    • @arvs7356
      @arvs7356 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ⁠​⁠@@washuaisorry to burst your bubbles but there’s no streisand effect to this. The emulation frontend (NOT emulation) market on mobile OSes is still a niche market. Those who are really keen on using a frontend will most probably know how to sideload the app on Android then call it a day.

    • @postplays
      @postplays Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@arvs7356
      These events bring unwanted attention to the emulation scene. The dev should have never had tried to sell his app through Amazon to begin with. Nintendo is already breathing down Yuzu's neck. Legacy sites like Vimms Lair are always in danger the more and more "influencers" talk about it.
      This is all very much related and not localized in the emulation frontend department.

    • @hayaokakizaki4463
      @hayaokakizaki4463 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I downloaded Yuzu for my phone (it works by the way, but coverage is spotty!) only after I found out Yuzu was shutting down

  • @FireLordOzai001
    @FireLordOzai001 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Thanks for the update Russ! I setup ES on my android device per your video. But ended up with Daijisho because I can choose which version of dolphin I want to use per game. Unless there’s a way to do that with ES, I’m sticking with Daijisho for now

    • @arbbo1675
      @arbbo1675 Před 4 měsíci

      I dig Daijishou but I really don't like how there is no offline backup option and if you set it up on one memory card then later want to upgrade to a larger card, you have to set up directories all over again.

    • @FireLordOzai001
      @FireLordOzai001 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@arbbo1675 yeah I totally see the benefit of that. It was easy to reinstall ES after it was dropped from Amazon. But I don’t change android devices often so setting up Daijisho is t the bothersome to me. Hopefully Daijisho will add this feature in the future. I also really like that all the setting are hidden in ES and with one button press you bring them up. Keeps the UI clean and simple.

    • @arbbo1675
      @arbbo1675 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @FireLordOzai001 My issue with Daijishou is not necessarily about changing devices, but changing cards. Daijishou doesn't give you access to it's database. I would like to be able to make an offline backup to go from one card/device to another without setting directories again. ES is also more of a standard and I have it on multiple devices and I have all the same games/artwork/themes on all of them.

    • @ES-DE_Frontend
      @ES-DE_Frontend Před 4 měsíci +1

      You can choose which emulator to use per game from the metadata editor, it's available from the gamelist options menu.

    • @FireLordOzai001
      @FireLordOzai001 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ES-DE_Frontend thanks, I’m definitely going to try that out!!

  • @LiiT3xGaming
    @LiiT3xGaming Před 4 měsíci

    Damn i just finished today setting everything up, thanks for the update

  • @tmp-3mtempest79
    @tmp-3mtempest79 Před 4 měsíci

    Interesting coverage! I have a question, and am hoping you'll know: What would be the major differences between something like ES-DE on Android... and another frontend like Daijisho? I already use the latter - is there anything noteworthy to make it worth switching to Android ES-DE?

  • @Shibbs
    @Shibbs Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for all the updated info Russ!
    The Yuzu/Nintendo thing is interesting for sure, Yuzu doesn't supply any bios/keys for the games so it'll be interesting (read: scary) to see how this goes.
    Off topic: I've been thinking of grabbing another MiniPC just for setting up as a Media Server for Plex etc & digitizing my tv dvd/blu sets with how ridiculous streaming services are now.
    Do you have a MiniPC you'd recommend for that?
    Thanks again as always for these helpful and entertaining videos!

  • @dudubenabou
    @dudubenabou Před 4 měsíci +9

    Daijisho for me for now. I have got it all perfect on my flip. Thinking of jumping on Odin 2 , or RP4 Pro or maybe wait for next gen odin or maybe flip. So i am on holding pattern now. Watching where the market goes. With a new device i will definitely check ES 😁

    • @diegoramos2817
      @diegoramos2817 Před 3 měsíci

      Daijisho, Does it give an error? I mean, do you ever have any problem using daijisho?

    • @heavenly2k
      @heavenly2k Před 3 měsíci

      To an outsider, you just spoke gibberish lol. Like you're just saying nonsense if you know nothing about emulators

    • @diegoramos2817
      @diegoramos2817 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@heavenly2k I will rephrase because I use Google translate to better express my doubt.
      in some Front-Ends when you start the game they give errors... The daijisho from what I researched: when it doesn't open the game it at least opens the Emulator.
      My question is, did you experience any problems? Have there been any errors using Daijisho? I'm researching to find out which is the best Front-End...

  • @slpstrm6952
    @slpstrm6952 Před 4 měsíci +6

    I followed your video from last week and installed Emulation Station on my Retroid Pocket 4.
    What's really strange is our received a update from the Amazon app store for Emulation Station this morning and it's still working no problems at all and it's still showed it listed on the store still as well.
    I'm in Australia so I don't know if it makes any difference but I wouldn't think it would, but it's truly bizarre that a front end has been stopped for emulation even though it does not emulate anything itself.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před 4 měsíci +5

      If you already own the app then you can update it on your device, but it won't be getting any future updates.

  • @Dsuds23
    @Dsuds23 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the heads up brother

  • @seadx6
    @seadx6 Před 4 měsíci +13

    I think Amazon got scared due to Nintendo's lawsuit to Yuzu
    Either way I prefer the Patreon route since it is DRM free, it does not require any secondary store and it gives access to everyone worldwide, the Amazon app store is unavailable in Latin America

  • @jonathantegnell9935
    @jonathantegnell9935 Před 4 měsíci +3

    It seems on Reddit many people have recently updated ES on Steam Deck and the ROMs all go missing because ES redirects the directory pointer. Can you address this?

  • @isanparion9352
    @isanparion9352 Před 4 měsíci

    Hey Russ! Love your videos! Been watching for a few years now. I wanted to ask your opinion on what handheld would be a good fit for what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a good handheld with a premium feel to it, maybe something with a metal case but under $200, and can play PSP games well. I like the horizontal format, like a switch. Any suggestions?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I feel like the metal Retroid Pocket 3+ would have been a perfect fit for this use case, but sadly I don't see it on their store any more so you may have to look on eBay or Amazon to see if someone is selling one. It's generally under $200, premium feeling, and can play PSP at a 3x upscale. I made a video about it last year if you want to check it out! czcams.com/video/DEdA11yN_fI/video.htmlsi=Uj-6Rg8g8z6-NmKd

    • @isanparion9352
      @isanparion9352 Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you! I'll give it a look!

  • @AeonTekOR
    @AeonTekOR Před 4 měsíci +4

    I highly recommend the Nerd Nest podcast, one of my weekly go-tos.

  • @SickLiq
    @SickLiq Před 4 měsíci

    I hope you'll talk about Nintendo suit at some point on your own channel. A teaser about some other thing I have to like and subscribe to to get the good stuff has me nostalgic for small channel Retro Game Corps.

  • @phoenixgold9735
    @phoenixgold9735 Před 4 měsíci

    I love using es-de on my ayn odin 2 pro!!! Only issue is connecting with the PSvita had to do some work around to show it in the es-de from the forum page could you help make a video about how to set it up? I got lost on the forum page when it talked about the title id setup

  • @AndruComedy
    @AndruComedy Před 4 měsíci +6

    I love the idea of Daijosho and that it's free but there's just certain things you can't customize that drives me nuts. Can't even resize my box art.

    • @Bugside
      @Bugside Před 4 měsíci +1

      Also it hasn't been updated in like six months, might be abandoned

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr Před 4 měsíci +7

      ​@@Bugsideits pretty feature complete and extremely stable, so even if its abandoned, it might be fine staying like it is for a while

  •  Před 4 měsíci +2

    Russ do you think it may be a good idea to edit and repost the original video so you don't unintetionally send people to those scam apps on the Amazon App Store?

  • @XcaliburW
    @XcaliburW Před 4 měsíci

    I haven’t downloaded Yuzu but, hopefully it doesn’t get taken down like Skyline.
    Keep up the great vids Russ 👍

    • @Bugside
      @Bugside Před 4 měsíci

      Go download it now and save the apk just in case

  • @-Crustyboi-
    @-Crustyboi- Před 4 měsíci

    That Odin 2 looks sick. I gotta get me one of those one day when I have some spare money left 😅

  • @SolidSt8Dj
    @SolidSt8Dj Před 4 měsíci +10

    "Except that Patreon is something that the devs can actually control".
    Except for all those times Patreon screwed over it's creators.
    I get the point, but this statement is still funny to me.

    • @vexorian
      @vexorian Před 4 měsíci +3

      Patreon is considerably less risky than google or amazon.

    • @SolidSt8Dj
      @SolidSt8Dj Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@vexorian Agreed, but still ironic

  • @APEXGuerilla
    @APEXGuerilla Před 4 měsíci +3

    Can you get 3D box art on EmulationStation like on LaunchBox/BigBox? Just deciding which to set up.
    Maybe a deep dive comparison vid of these launchers would be neat? 👐

    • @steelzepplin2012
      @steelzepplin2012 Před 4 měsíci

      I used the windows screenscraper app to do this, i selected the videos, 3D box art, and metadata and then transferred it over to all my emulation devices that use emulation station :P you will never have to scrape again

    • @snart
      @snart Před 4 měsíci

      Yes you can - I love this front end!

  • @MD-sc1jk
    @MD-sc1jk Před 3 měsíci

    I have been using EmulationStation since the Raspberry Pi 3 and I loved it. I am happy that it is available on Android. I installed on my RP4Pro and It works great. I can't wait for future updates.

  • @lewisguapo
    @lewisguapo Před 3 měsíci +1

    what device is that? I want one that can play gamecube and switch games...

  • @CragScrambler
    @CragScrambler Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the info, I just got refunded via amazon uk with no problems.

  • @gregmasciola3332
    @gregmasciola3332 Před 4 měsíci

    If you get it through Patreon do you have to uninstall it and reinstall with the new APK file like you did in this video when they come out with updates?

    • @shaderdream
      @shaderdream Před 4 měsíci

      If they use the same signing keys and same internal app name, Android should let you install it over the existing app, so if you get it just try it and see what it does, unless the developer is specifically saying you need to uninstall it for some reason. If they used a different signing key it won't let you install it over the existing version (otherwise someone could install their own version over the top to access the app's private data), or if the internal app name is different, they will just coexist as different apps.

  • @DucksInMayonnaise
    @DucksInMayonnaise Před 4 měsíci +4

    The Nintendo vs Yuzu lawsuit will be quite interesting. From what I undertand, Nintendo is trying to frame Yuzu as being aware and intentionally working on that emulator to play commercial games on an unauthorized device, pointing out the instructions they provide to use a hardware vulnerability to obtain an ecryption key and pirate games and also conversations and statements that has been circulating in the Discord server.
    I do wonder about the outcome legally of this lawsuit. I think Nintendo tries to stretch the truth as far as they can (as always) to prove how emulation is closely related to piracy and condemn emulation as piracy as a whole, but I don't think it will be seen that way. As for the whole "Yuzu being an enabler in piracy", they may have a case here though.

  • @mamaharumi
    @mamaharumi Před 4 měsíci +16

    Between CDromance, Yuzu, and this, I'm honestly worried about the future of emulation.

    • @iansteelmatheson
      @iansteelmatheson Před 4 měsíci +6

      yeah. emuparadise too, though that was a while ago

    • @xFEARxPHOENIXx
      @xFEARxPHOENIXx Před 4 měsíci +8

      CDROMANCE Links are working again.

    • @williamwhite2830
      @williamwhite2830 Před 4 měsíci

      noticed that @@xFEARxPHOENIXx

    • @Red_Sutter
      @Red_Sutter Před 4 měsíci

      There’ll be plenty of places that let you steal games popping up in the near future. Just like a hydra

    • @HUYI1
      @HUYI1 Před 4 měsíci

      and this is why it's important to own LOCAL external RELIABLE hard drives, stop using cloud online services and keep your retro gaming data offline from any prying eyes, i've already recently preserved my GB, GBA, GBC games onto reliable OFFLINE flash carts and a good old GBA SP IPS V2, no internet required

  • @brandonmurray3629
    @brandonmurray3629 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Russ you’re a champ for explaining all this on your channel

  • @arcadevalleys5381
    @arcadevalleys5381 Před 4 měsíci

    do we have any work around to use the internal space of the retroid? ex: I have everything on the SD card except the PS2 games,those im using the internal storage

  • @CellPhish
    @CellPhish Před 4 měsíci +1

    I really like Dijisho but it might be time to give ES a try. I’m just torn having my Android and Linux handhelds look the same

  • @ejlisee9
    @ejlisee9 Před 4 měsíci

    I really need help! I'm so torn between all of the new retro handhelds in the last year. I want one that is pocketable, can play upscaled psp and doesn't get hot and doesn't have a ton of bootloop problems and charging issues.Any suggestions?

  • @gatacca
    @gatacca Před 4 měsíci +2

    I just wish ES-DE will add custom folder pointing for ROMs folder and per system just like what we have with Daijisho. For someone who loves to maximize every inch of space on the odin2, this is a showstopper for me to port over to ES

    • @1337brian2
      @1337brian2 Před 4 měsíci +1

      You should be able to change rom path per emulator using the xml file

    • @gatacca
      @gatacca Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks for the tips on this. Much appreciated. Like on my Odin2, i split my ROMS between internal and external storage. Do you know if the XML path modification can recognize both the internal and external path?@@1337brian2

    • @gatacca
      @gatacca Před 4 měsíci

      @@1337brian2 do you know if using the xml to specify custom rom path, it can recognize both the internal and external storage on Odin2? I have had my ROMS split between those two unfortunately.

  • @itech1129
    @itech1129 Před 4 měsíci +1

    What would be the best all in one windows emulator

  • @GothicMatt17
    @GothicMatt17 Před 4 měsíci

    Random question, do you know how to get solarus emulator onto emulation station using the steam deck? I had it on Batocera but I can’t figure out how to get it onto emulation station

  • @ward14473
    @ward14473 Před 4 měsíci

    just wondering is there a way i can continue where i left of scraping roms because i dont want rescape my roms over again any ideas

  • @KyleLambiotte
    @KyleLambiotte Před 2 měsíci

    So for some reason I was able to get GameCube games to launch through dolphin from emulation station but I just installed Wii games and they flash a white screen before returning to emulation station. I have directed the alternate emulator and verified all games work in dolphin directly, but emulation station can’t seem to launch. Any fix???

  • @jakesmith5278
    @jakesmith5278 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Awesome front end. Love it on my Steam Deck and will buy it for Android and Windows when all these shenanigans are done. We really cannot have nice things.

    • @skel3370r
      @skel3370r Před 4 měsíci

      For Windows, retrobat already exists for free and is the emulation station front end for retroarch

    • @Andy.Something.
      @Andy.Something. Před 4 měsíci +1

      ES-DE is free on Windows.

  • @Abdu_19
    @Abdu_19 Před 4 měsíci

    Are all the Emulators with all the Games Pre installed? Or do i need to download the Emulators or Games i Like?

  • @MrZakuRetro
    @MrZakuRetro Před 4 měsíci +1

    i really think that having in a appstore it was a bad choice i use phone as emulator console i don't use any store, the patreon maybe is the best choice.

  • @Keanine
    @Keanine Před 4 měsíci

    I'm curious, does the Android version have a vertical mode? I'd mostly use it for DS, Gameboy and Gameboy Advance stuff so I'd prefer to play vertical and therefore have the interface in vertical, but I want to check before I throw money at it

    • @ES-DE_Frontend
      @ES-DE_Frontend Před 4 měsíci

      Yes you can rotate the application internally 90, 180 or 270 degrees, there's a setting for this in the Other settings menu. Few themes will look good with that though, but the Slate and Tategriddy these will at least work fine.

    • @Keanine
      @Keanine Před 4 měsíci

      @@ES-DE_Frontend Understandable, thank you! This project has really come a long way

  • @primalconvoy
    @primalconvoy Před 4 měsíci

    I'm pretty sure that I saw it for sale at Google Play just after your previous video about this came out?

  • @boardgameboyz8097
    @boardgameboyz8097 Před 4 měsíci

    Wanna buy a handheld to play retro games up to PS1, screen between 5" to 6", less than 200$, high quality screen and material, and a decent design are my priority, what handheld do you recommend?

  • @theMeshtar
    @theMeshtar Před 4 měsíci

    It so happens I just received a notification that my Odin 2 is being shipped! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @BloodEdgeTrinity
    @BloodEdgeTrinity Před 4 měsíci

    Hey Russ Drastic keeps crashing everytime i open a game any recommendations?

  • @mattb6522
    @mattb6522 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thanks for the head's up, Russ! I definitely am interested in getting ES-DE on my Retroid Pocket 4 Pro as it was already so amazing on my Steam Deck. It is a shame that the developer is having issues with Amazon and Google Play, but I am happy to support them directly via Patreon instead! Daijisho is decent, but I just prefer EmulationStation in general.

  • @ricardomerced12
    @ricardomerced12 Před 4 měsíci

    Would like to know your thoughts on nintendo statements of yu-zu emulator.

  • @christopherbrisiel1898
    @christopherbrisiel1898 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the video Russ - I loaded up my RP2S with the patreon version, installed successfully (had been using daijisho and dig), moved all my roms and setup the primary emulators for each system, but keep getting error, "Retroarch 64 (AArch64) isn't responding"... I've researched quite a bit and tried different emulators to no avail... anyone else resolve something similar?

  • @richarddukard8989
    @richarddukard8989 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I hope we’ll eventually be able to boot into emulation station directly

  • @RyanSaotome
    @RyanSaotome Před 4 měsíci

    I really wish another one of these frontends would have the gameplay time tracking. This is a non negotiable feature for me since I love keeping a playtime history of all the games I have, and Dig is still the only one I've found that has it so I still use Dig even with its pretty archaic setup.

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr Před 4 měsíci

      Its funny that samsung has an insanely good and extremely complete game tracking in their gaming hub on their phones. Would love any frontend to copy this

  • @ushilives3
    @ushilives3 Před 4 měsíci

    Going to install this on my secondary phone (Poco F1) and use it for gaming only. Its currently on android 10 though, ill give the app a try but if it don't work ill have to upgrade to android 11

  • @stuartjebb3258
    @stuartjebb3258 Před 4 měsíci

    On a different note we now have a working virtual boy emulator working in 3d on the 3ds and it's awesome u can even change screen colours called red viper

  • @ToyKeeper
    @ToyKeeper Před 4 měsíci +1

    Have been using ES-DE on a Raspberry Pi 400 via Batocera, and it's pretty awesome. I try to avoid Android though, and Amazon, Apple, and really anything proprietary or corporate. Can't post how I feel about them though, at least not without tripping a content filter. :P

  • @DucksInMayonnaise
    @DucksInMayonnaise Před 4 měsíci +1

    I prefer Daijisho for now for the simplicity of the interface, but I'm looking forward to the day ES-DE will fully integrate Android ecosystem functionality :)

  • @666jonnyblaze
    @666jonnyblaze Před 4 měsíci

    Which is a better pick the Odin 2 or Abxylute? Probably the odin 2 im guessing

  • @benjamin75016
    @benjamin75016 Před 4 měsíci +1

    That's a shame. Fantastic app, I just set it up on Odin 2 and It's transformative. I was slightly biased towards Linux for my handhelds before (even with Dajisho) but ES-DE single-handedly changed that, I will certainly buy it again from their website.
    On a side note, does anyone know how to remove the lower black border when disabling UI help ? Theme is Artbook Next if it matters.

  • @ElGeneroactivo
    @ElGeneroactivo Před 4 měsíci

    Emudeck es lo mismo que emulationstation?

  • @brunan-gi147
    @brunan-gi147 Před 4 měsíci

    So, how do you update the frontend? Do you just run the new version apk and it will overide the old? Would it keep your settings?
    Thanks

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před 4 měsíci +2

      When new versions come out, yeah you'll just download the new apk and tap on it, and it'll update and retain all your settings.

    • @brunan-gi147
      @brunan-gi147 Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks, Russ! I will give it a go. I was between this and Launchbox but this looks a bit more streamlined...@@RetroGameCorps

  • @Goldfire345
    @Goldfire345 Před 4 měsíci

    Honestly I wanted to get it on the Amazon store but since I already had paid for dig I didn't want to pay for another front end without some kind of demo to see if I like it. a video just won't cut it I'd actually need to be able to use it first since there's a upfront time investment to fully set a front end up

  • @jierenzheng7670
    @jierenzheng7670 Před 4 měsíci

    May I know between Pegasus/Daijisho/Emulationstation, which would be the most lightweight frontend?

    • @Leo9az
      @Leo9az Před 4 měsíci +1

      Im curious to know too. Might compare between them and share the results later, but im too lazy to do so lol

  • @OneLifeGames
    @OneLifeGames Před 4 měsíci +3

    I hope more developers move to Patreon. ❤

    • @VSMOKE1
      @VSMOKE1 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Patron sucks they get political

  • @marksemczyszyn
    @marksemczyszyn Před 4 měsíci

    Ayaneo Pocket Air has an issue. When you start ES-DE it always asks to have permission to access the controller. When you select a game (say Genesis with RetroArch) ES-DE seems to keep hold of the controller so RA assumes there isn't one connected. Only way to make RA start using the controller is to swipe down, disable Hand Lever and re enable. Then controls work. The other system I tested Flycast behaves the same way. Pocket Air presents it's controls as an Xbox controller. Hand Lever is the built in feature to disable the controller so that USB file transfer can happen.This doesn't happen with other launchers like Beacon or Daijisho.

    • @ES-DE_Frontend
      @ES-DE_Frontend Před 4 měsíci +1

      This has (hopefully) been fixed and will be a part of the next update. But just pressing "CANCEL" when the popup is shown should fix the issue as a workaround.

  • @joshuabrain9751
    @joshuabrain9751 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Anyone else having issues downloading from the link on Patreon? I've tried to download the APK about 10 times now and my download always fails

    • @ES-DE_Frontend
      @ES-DE_Frontend Před 4 měsíci +1

      The webserver can't really handle this file size with so many downloads at the same time, I'm investigating a different place for the APK for the next release. This was just something temporary I had to throw together as the Amazon takedown was obviously completely unexpected.

    • @joshuabrain9751
      @joshuabrain9751 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ES-DE_Frontend no worries. Thanks 👍

  • @saiyan_princestudios9790
    @saiyan_princestudios9790 Před 3 měsíci

    can someone plz help me! i downloaded koriki for my abernic 35xx plus but now all of the original games that came with it are gone :( i'm so sad and upset and dont know what to do even watched a ton of youtubers step by step etc. and koriki only has like 1 game each.

  • @derek7384
    @derek7384 Před 4 měsíci

    Love the frontend.only issue I get a black screen when I point es to retroarch standalone emus work fine

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss Před 4 měsíci +27

    I really hope Yuzu isn't taken down...

    • @chiquita683
      @chiquita683 Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@monki_sudoyes it does because you need updates for new games

    • @CasualPooper
      @CasualPooper Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@chiquita683someone else will keep it going and exhaust Nintendo

    • @TuxedoMaskMusic
      @TuxedoMaskMusic Před 4 měsíci

      they shouldn't have tried to profit from open source code that relies on use of a file like prod.keys that's widely pirated rather than legit dumped in 90% of end users cases, the reality is had they kept this purely NON PROFIT OPEN SOURCE and didnt turn it into a profiteering glutton situation Nintendo wouldn't be able to sue them but the reality is they charge money for their patreon and downloads using nintendo copyrighted encryption files and without it they couldn't run yuzu it wouldn't work. they got greedy and its gonna bite them in the ass. Bet on it.

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr Před 4 měsíci +7

      Its opensource so someone will grab the code and keep evolving it probably under a different name. Opensource projects are unkillable

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@monki_sudoIt matters, because legal action hurts the creators, slows development, makes things harder for the users, and causes what lawyers call a "chilling effect" or a "SLAPP". It's enough of a problem that some places have "SLAPP-back" laws to protect people from this type of harmful lawsuit.

  • @ivysdanillo
    @ivysdanillo Před 2 měsíci

    Please, help! Everytime I start a game on Emustation, it keeps redirecting me to Retroarch. Why?

  • @evermillcreek
    @evermillcreek Před 4 měsíci

    Is there a way to download and update the app without paying for it at all?

  • @wayfarergamedev113
    @wayfarergamedev113 Před 3 měsíci

    Is it possible to run Dolphin app through this instead of retroarch version of dolphin?

  • @jhimself7160
    @jhimself7160 Před 4 měsíci

    I find i run Genesis directly from Retroarch fine, but if i launch the game through emulation station, it opens retroarch, but it crashes?

    • @Veyrah64
      @Veyrah64 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Check the preferred core in ES settings, make sure it's the same one you tested and worked in retroarch

  • @cactusmanbwl1990
    @cactusmanbwl1990 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Emulation station doesn't emulate or allow the pirating of games in any way shape or form. It's essentially just a file browser that links to other apps. I don't understand how it can be taken down, while things like Retroarch are totally fine.

  • @kevindemo1280
    @kevindemo1280 Před 4 měsíci

    Well, at the least I'm glad there isn't a big issue setting up the APK if the Amazon version has been configured. That said, I'm gonna roll with my current install for the time being, if there's a major update before this hits the Play store (if it does at all) I'll go the Patreon route, but I'd just rather have it downloaded through a service that will keep it updated rather than doing it manually moving forward.
    Just a couple of weeks ago I replaced both my kids' tablets from Amazon Fire ones to Samsung Galaxy Tabs mostly because I was so sick of dealing with Amazon's garbage restrictive ecosystem, and I'm feeling even between about that call today. I do hope that the ES dev gets the payout from Amazon for downloads that weren't refunded 🤞

  • @XtianApi
    @XtianApi Před 4 měsíci

    So with a new Odin 2 coming to me in like an hour, daijisho or es-de?

    • @geoffhall3012
      @geoffhall3012 Před 4 měsíci

      Both , daijsho for multi card locations and es for bread and butter emulation, SNES,mame .
      Of course if your collection is limited to one memory card , it doesn't matter

  • @Evergreen085
    @Evergreen085 Před 2 dny

    Daijisho is okay but when launching ps2 game it doesn't directly open it has a secondary folder that opens and I have to select the game again which is kind of annoying. Other than that the other emulators work well with it. Does anyone have any other front ends other than Emulation Station and Daijisho?

  • @manifestationnation
    @manifestationnation Před 4 měsíci

    So I paid for a launchbox license just to get video snaps in my Odin 2, and have my full library and everything already set up. Should I bother with Emulation Station?

  • @johndelanie3649
    @johndelanie3649 Před 4 měsíci +2

    "Facilitates piracy" so do PCs, hard drives, and literally anything with an OS and storage, better de-list all that too

  • @alexmeauxmotion
    @alexmeauxmotion Před měsícem

    Thank you very much for this video ! There is something that really bothering me right now ! My PS2 emulator is AetherSX2 (Standalone) but when I select a game through ES-DE it doesnt just lanch the right game but I got AetherSX2 menu that ask me to choose the game I want to launch. That makes 2 selections for the same input. Do you know how to fix this ?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před měsícem

      I'd recommend transitioning over to NetherSX2, it's a great upgrade from AetherSX2 and it will allow you to launch directly into the games: czcams.com/video/HZcfVeNuKAE/video.html

    • @alexmeauxmotion
      @alexmeauxmotion Před měsícem

      @@RetroGameCorps Thanks for your quick reply ! Actually that is exactly what I did ! But still when I launch from NetherSX2 it works like a charm but when I launch from ES-DE I got a notification on the bottom saying the request is launch but the screen stays black and nothing is launch.

    • @alexmeauxmotion
      @alexmeauxmotion Před měsícem

      @@RetroGameCorps OK I found where my issue was ! I created the ps2 folder in ROMs but I wrote it in Uppercase "PS2". I deleted it and made a proper "ps2" in lowercase and that works like a charm !!!

  • @ndiolo
    @ndiolo Před 4 měsíci

    Just for info, I was planning to follow this tutorial and the Amazon said an update was available for ES-DE
    Now I'm currently on version 3.0.0

  • @alyweb1969
    @alyweb1969 Před 4 měsíci

    Probably a dumb question, but does one have to uninstall it and get it again from Patreon, as it is still running on my device!? (Obviously, none of my money has gone to the developer which I would take care of.)

  • @Zimmsters
    @Zimmsters Před 4 měsíci

    You sir, have made me buy a GameSir G8, Emulation Station and made me download hundreds of Gigs of RetroGames. If i get addicted, i will hold you responsable! :)

  • @DrSpriteZero
    @DrSpriteZero Před 4 měsíci +1

    Just do the launchbox thing and make it a free app with the choice of buying a license externally

  • @user-ep5sd9br3s
    @user-ep5sd9br3s Před 4 měsíci +2

    Are you going to make an update review for the retroid pocket 4 now since it's gotten a update today?

  • @christographerx64
    @christographerx64 Před 4 měsíci

    Im not sure if you clarified this or not - but you should put in your video how to setup Emulation Station to use a different ROM folder than the default one. It stops you from having to move your ROMs if folders are named differently

  • @RetroFunTech
    @RetroFunTech Před 4 měsíci +6

    Just got refunded after only talking to Amazon for a few minutes. Super Easy. I will definitely be backing the Patreon app. Thanks Russ!

    • @nunyabidnes6010
      @nunyabidnes6010 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Shouldn't even have to talk to anybody. You should immediately and automatically get a refund